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September 11, 2025 36 mins
On today’s Good Day Health Show - ON DEMAND…

Dr. Jack Stockwell, a NUCCA Chiropractor and GAPS Practitioner in SLC, UT (866.867.5070 | ForbiddenDoctor.com | JackStockwell.com), covers the the biggest news in the health and wellness space from a holistic, naturopath perspective.

First, Dr. Jack shares the latest information on why blood pressure recommendations keep getting lower (and how it correlates to better overall health in many people as a consciousness for better health is becoming more common), how to help your body towards a healthy weight with out risking addiction to weight-loss drugs, and the truth about hypertension.

The more aware we are of our health, the more careful we become of our lifestyle choices, and the more our blood pressure starts dropping. When it comes to Big Pharma, patients with healthy blood pressure is bad for business. Did you know, dehydration can contribute to a loss in blood volume, causing the body to tighten blood vessels, raising blood pressure.

Then, Dr. Jack explains why whole-food vitamin C should be in everyone’s diet, how you can get it, and what it does to help your body — like helping to carry oxygen in the blood, through the vessels and to the cells.

Lastly, Doug joins Dr. Jack for a conversation on news that X-rays for arthritis appear to be a problem due to the strength of the X-ray machines and how often they’re used. 


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Good Day Health Podcast with doctor Jack Stockwell,
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome to the Good Day Health Show once again. I
am doctor Jack Stockwell at forbiddendoctor dot com and I
was always very happy and proud to be a part
of the Doug Stephan Good Day Health Show lineup every
week and again, as I usually say, the topics that
I try to address are the cutting edge material that

(00:31):
is in the news this week or recently, and also
in conjunction with patients who I know listen to this
show and who ask me questions all the time. And
a very interesting question I was recently asked was why
is there blood pressure higher in the doctor's office than
it is anywhere else? And something that's called masked hypertension

(00:55):
or now excuse me, white coat hyph pretension and then
delay and of course you probably seeing the latest numbers,
and why do the blood pressure numbers keep dropping in
the sense of serious concern the margin between the higher
number the systolic and the lower number, the diastolic keep

(01:16):
getting lower and lower in their recommended schedules. And one
of the best reasons is I've studied this myself, is
that people are taking better care of their health. They're
exercising more, they're watching their diets, they're trying to eat
the foods that Mother Nature made rather than the food

(01:38):
producers what they make. And as they get back more
to natural food sources, they notice that they feel better,
they have more energy, and their blood pressure drops. Now,
if you are in the market of selling blood pressure
drugs and the demand for your drugs start to drop,

(02:01):
what are you going to do about it? Well, you
create a new campaign with new numbers so you can
scare a new group of people and for something that
really is not all that serious. And my goodness, doctor Jack,
high blood pressure isn't serious. If it's way up over
two hundred, yeah, then we've got a problem and you

(02:24):
need to be in the er or you need to
be on some kind of medication, because that's when it
gets dangerous. It wasn't all that long ago in medical
textbooks that the higher number the systolic would be your
age plus one hundred would be considered the high end

(02:45):
of what blood pressure should be like. In three months,
I will be seventy five, So one hundred and seventy
five as long as my systolic is under one hundred
and seventy five. According to medical manuals as recently as
two decades ago, that would be considered the high mark
for normal blood pressure. But if you were to say

(03:06):
that to a cardiologist today, they probably throw you out
of the office because that is not the standard of care.
And what is done in medicine today is based more
on the standard of care and what the medical board
decreased should be the protocol to follow. Then that's what
the new numbers are. And so you see various drugs,

(03:29):
the met form an issue that's been out there, and
then some of these weight loss drugs that people are
just getting hooked on left and right, against my advice
to my patients, start doing all kinds of things the
kidneys to the liver, and as they begin to be
toxic and get backed up, blood pressure starts to go up.

(03:52):
Then you start getting on blood pressure drugs even though
you're losing weight from these weight loss drugs. It it
just falls into that area of life that I refer
to as living chemically as opposed to living naturally. So

(04:12):
whenever you see these high blood pressure numbers getting ratcheted
downwards several times by the high priests of the medical
pharmaceutical world. It wasn't all that long ago. To repeat myself,
because this is a very important point. You take your
age at one hundred would be the high point. The

(04:34):
low number should be under one hundred. Actually, I tell
my patients I'd like it under ninety. Now, my blood
pressure unmedicated. I have the I am not on any
medication at all, at nearly seventy five years old. I
take meds for nothing because I've been I've watched what

(04:55):
I eat and the exercise and the amount of sleep,
and doing whatever I can to foster good health in
my body has yielded a standard for me to follow
that to this day still does not require medication, except
I have a doctor who is also a patient of mine,

(05:18):
who I get. I can order my own blood work,
but I don't want to do that. I have this
doctor order my blood work for me just I think
that just keeps it a little more clean. And every
now and then she will see that my fasting glucose
is a little high. By a little high, I mean

(05:38):
over one hundred, maybe one hundred and five or something.
She wants it under ninety. And we argue about this,
and every now and then there's a couple of little
things here and there that fall outside of what would
be considered normal medical guidelines. And though she herself is
very oriented towards natural care, she still clings to the

(06:02):
medical model she was taught in school. And that's what
I want. I want somebody who has the medical viewpoint
looking at my blood work. But I look at my
blood work too, because I sent patients to get blood
work all the time, and I know, based on my
decades of experience, how to get somebody's blood pressure to

(06:23):
drop simply buy a few lifestyle changes. Now, I made
all these points that in the old days, it was
your age plus one hundred. Then they said, oh, one
hundred and sixty over one hundred and ten. Then it
was one hundred and forty over ninety, and then it
turned down to be one hundred and twenty over eighty.
And the reason it keeps dropping down is ever since

(06:46):
about the nineteen eighties, when there was this big push
in the country and a lot of people joined God
on the bandwagon, jogging, walking, cleaning up their diets, getting
more rest, cleaner water, and try to avoid oh all
the crappy snack foods that we have a tendency to
eat that I occasionally give into myself occasionally, mind you.

(07:09):
And so blood pressures naturally started to drop. And as
I said, and I know I'm repeating myself, but I
need to make this point. When you're in the business
of selling high blood pressure drugs, you sometimes have to
create a new market because your market starts to disappear,
so you'll lower the numbers. And the average American citizen

(07:34):
of adult age will do whatever that white coat stethoscope
hanging individual tells them to do, because there's this element
of fear with the white coat. And that's the white
coat or the white coat hypertension that I'm talking about.

(07:55):
That a lot of people have blood pressure numbers because
they check them at home. They have the little battery
driven cuff that can go around the wrist or go
around the arm itself, and they check their blood pressure
and it's a pretty decent unit. Or they will do
it at the blood pressure checking devices in the grocery store.

(08:15):
A lot of them have them near the pharmacies. But
when they get in the doctor's office, the number is
twenty or thirty points higher, and it's called it's called
white coat hypertension. For some reason, we get a little nervous,
a little scared, and then that's what your medical doctor sees.
He doesn't see the blood pressure that you get on
a daily basis, and a lot of times he won't

(08:37):
even believe you when you tell him, well, doc, I
don't understand why it's so high because at home, at home,
it's one forty over seventy six, but here is one
hundred and eighty over one hundred and twenty. I don't understand. Well,
we've got better equipment. It is usually the standard answer.
So as the lowering of these numbers continues to swell

(09:01):
the roles of those being treated for high blood pressure
with these powerful, toxic drugs, usually unnecessary for the rest
of their lives, it makes the high priests of the
pharmaceutical world very happy. Indeed, and this treatment, with all
its deadly side effects, has been shown not to stop
heart attacks. Study after study shows high blood pressure drugs

(09:26):
do not stop heart attacks, they don't stop strokes, and
they don't prolong life for any more than maybe a
few weeks to a few months. But the heck with
the data, you know, full speed ahead with treating everybody
that costs that are rapidly breaking the healthcare bank. And
if that wasn't enough, there was a group of people

(09:47):
that were involved in a study twenty years ago in
two thousand and five where you have another group of
people with the most dangerous high blood pressure of all.
It's called masked hypertension, and it's a new medical term
for people who have normal blood pressure, as I was saying,
when their doctor takes it, but during everyday life, it's

(10:08):
presumed to be high. And mask hypertension is the opposite
of something called what I'm referring to earlier as whitecoat hypertension,
which is blood pressure that's high only when your doctor
takes it. But for the masked hypertension group, high blood
pressure is now determined to be there even when there's
no evidence of it. That's why they call it mask

(10:30):
And so we're jumping off of the end of the
pier that's called improbable into the lake of ridiculous. And
the more people will take the time to study the stuff,
these these research reports that I'm talking about are are
public information. They're at medline me d L I n
E dot com. They're at PubMed dot com, pub med

(10:55):
dot com, and you go to these sites and there's
a search bar and put in masked hypertension, put in
white coat w c HT, and the reports will show up.
Hundreds of peer reviewed journal reports and you read them.

(11:16):
And you have to read a few medical reports, these
peer reviewed papers to get a feel for how these
things work. There's an abstract, and then there's a design
how they put the thing together, and then there's the
methods as to how they actually did the testing, and
then it usually comes down to a conclusion. And after

(11:38):
you've gone through two or three or four of these,
you get a feel for what's going on and you
know how to read these things. Now we're going to
go to a break here shortly, but I want to
tell you the truth about hypertension when we get back
from the break.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Doug Stefan here with Good Day Health. Doctor Jack Stockwell
is the ear.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I'm talking about hypertension because it's kind of showing up
in the news again. And in the first part of
the program, I was explaining why because people simply are
more aware of their health than they have been in
the past, and the more aware you are of your
health profile, your health quoted, the more careful you begin
to be about your lifestyle choices. And you get out

(12:23):
and you start walking, maybe a little light resistance exercise,
maybe just swimming. You just get up and get moving,
and you know what's going to happen. Your blood pressure
is going to start dropping. And if you get enough
people doing that, then the blood pressure sales alarms start
going off. All right, I want to tell you the
truth about hypertension, because the entire concept of masked hypertension

(12:48):
is simply a scam and it needs to be laughed
off for what it is. And some concepts about hypertension
that should be taken into account by doctors, of course
they never are. Hydration is probably the cause of the
majority of cases of essential hypertension. It's a condition in

(13:09):
which dehydration from a lack of water or a constant
American diet that's loaded with sodas will do the same thing.
Even though that's a lot of water. It causes a
loss in blood volume, and the body senses this and
tightens blood vessels, so the blood level that's left is

(13:34):
forced into being adequate because it's in a tighter passage
to pass through and to get that oxygen to the cells,
the heart has to pump harder. And when lifelong drugs
are used to loosen these tight vessels, while the dehydration
issue is ignored, your cells your star for blood and oxygen,

(13:55):
and the result simply is exhaustion. So many times I've
been able to I have taken patients in my clinic
and taken their blood pressure. They came in because they
were concerned about it, and we took it and I said, well, yeah,
it's a little elevator from where it used to be.
How much water are you drinking? Oh, Doc, I know

(14:18):
you told me to drink more water, but I don't
like water. Well, I'm sorry you don't like water, but
your body does. Now we're going to do a little test.
I have a quart of water here. I want you
to go to the bathroom right now, empty your bladder,
then come back in here and you're going to consume
this whole court of water over a five minute period

(14:40):
or less, and then we're going to wait one hour
and we're going to retake your blood pressure. Most cases,
they say, well, you know I don't have an hour. Well,
then maybe a half an hour, But in an hour,
that water is going to be absorbed through the walls
of your stomach into your blood stream. And if you're
as dehydrated as I think you are, because I can

(15:00):
see it in your skin, your body's going to suck
that water up pretty fast and it's going to go
straight to the bloodstream so your body can distribute the
water wherever it needs to be. And then we're gonna
take your blood pressure again. I kid you not, I
lie to you not. The blood pressure will drop just
by drinking a quart of water. Some people several points,

(15:23):
some people just a couple of points, but it drops.
And the important thing is when my patient sees that,
their eyes open up. Oh that's all I gotta do. Yeah,
that's all you gotta do. Now. There are flavored carbonated
waters out there that are just pure water. They've been
carbonated and they have real fruit juice dropped into them

(15:47):
for a few drops, zero fat, zero sugar, zero calories,
and you still get the effervescence tingle of the throat
from these mineral waters. Spin Drift is the one I
really like. Spi n Drift. That's what I drink. A
couple of cans of that today and that I'm getting
that extra water. There are other varieties out there that

(16:08):
are good. I've suggested they start doing that if they
can't just drink a glass of water. Now we're gonna
go to break. I'm doctor Jack Stockwell at Forbidden Doctor
dot com. I have more on the truth about hypertension.
Don't go away.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
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(16:58):
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Speaker 1 (17:16):
Elizabeth Miller from the folks at cand Frind. Thanks Elizabeth. Here,
we are back on Good Day Health.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm doctor jackstock Will at Forbidden doctor dot com. One
thing I wanted to mention about to my patients who
do not like water. When they say, wow, I don't
like water, Well, where you do you it's usually tap order,
No wonder you don't like water. That's some of the
worst water you can probably possibly drink is out of
the tap because of everything they've done to that water

(17:45):
to try to make it clean, to make it look
like it's healthy, to make it look like there's some
substance to it you'd want in your body. But there
are chemicals in there, and there's usually fluoride, and there's
usually chlorine. And interesting thing about chlorine is if you
had water in a pitcher and the picture the lid
was open, and you let us sit there on the

(18:07):
counter for twenty four hours, the chlorine will oxidize, the
chlorine will be gone, but the fluoride is still there,
and fluoride's are poison. Now, the Salt Lake City Salt
Lake County Health Department has now removed, thank goodness, fluoride
from the drinking water. And the amount of studies that's

(18:29):
the thing you could go test with what I'm talking about.
To go to PubMed or medline, put in fluoride fluoride.
Just type in the word fluoride f l O U
R I d E fluoride and watch what pops up.
That's been published in the last two years about how
dangerous fluoride is to the human body. Yeah, but it

(18:51):
hardens teeth and it protects us from cavities. There's some
evidence that that's the case. But at what cost that
you're putting highly toxic mineral inside the human body. Well
it's a gas, all right. Let me go on here
about the hypertension stuff, because, uh, if you have high

(19:12):
blood fats and high triglycerides, that's gonna you know, if
you eat the standard American diet, you're gonna have high
blood fats and high triglycerides. That diet has a tendency
to thicken the blood and it just kind of makes
it sludgy, now that that's a medical term for you,
sludge blood. But moving this blood through the vessels because

(19:34):
it gets a little bit thicker, a little sludgier, it
means the heart has to beat harder. And when you haven't,
when when the heart is dealing with an increase with
that kind of pumping, you're going to have higher blood pressure.
So the lifelong heart and blood pressure drugs for this condition,

(19:56):
ignoring the diet that caused it causes the heart to
and producing lower blood pressure numbers and the end result exhaustion.
Then there's the if you can get and this is
I always try to mention the supplement during my show
that will help to address some of these problems. Something

(20:18):
called cataplex c atapli X cataplex C. When you are
dealing with whole food vitamin C, not ascorbic acid, the
real vitamin C. It helps to carry oxygen in the
blood through the vessels to the cells. Whole food vitamin
C has many reasons to be in our diet. And

(20:42):
I take three little brown pills of cataplex C in
the morning. Again available at Forbidden doctor dot com. Because
it increases the oxygen carrying capability of the blood. And
when you have deficiencies of whole food vitamin C that's
induced by the standard American diet, you're going to end

(21:04):
up with something called subclinical scurvy. It shows up with
a pink toothbrush when you brush your teeth, and it's
saying very clearly, you don't have enough of this real
form of vitamin C in your diet. And as the
oxygen carrying capability of the blood decreases, the brain is

(21:24):
telling the heart give me more blood because there's not
enough oxygen in it. That raises the blood pressure, and
so the heart's response is to speed up, possibly increasing
the blood pressure to do that, and the heart and
blood pressure drugs to lower your heart beat because your
brain is making your heart beat faster because the brain

(21:46):
wants the oxygen. But your cardiologist is saying, without ever
finding out why your well, your heart's beating too fast,
we have to slow your heart down. And what's the
net result exhaustion, high levels of insulin from the standard
American diet, lack of exercise, and the deficiency of something

(22:10):
called glucose tolerance factor, which comes from b vitamins, irritates,
irritates the blood vessel linings. Insulin in and of itself
is kind of caustic, and the insulin should only increase
in our bloodstreams when you've had some carbohydrates, and if
you have the kind of carbohydrates that mother Nature made

(22:32):
before mankind's food industries start changing it. When you eat
those carbohydrates like a mineral rich sweet potato, or just
a salad for that matter, a good organic, healthy salad,
slowly your blood sugar will increase because of these carbohydrates.

(22:54):
Your insulin will go up. Get the blood sugar out
of the bloodstream into the cells where it is to be.
Lower the level of blood sugar in the bloodstream and
the insulin goes back down. But with the standard American diet,
we're eating breakfast cereal in the mornings or some form
of oatmeal that was overly processed. And again I have

(23:16):
to say this breakfast cereal is one of the worst
foods you can possibly eat for a number of reasons.
It's just junk food, just junk food in the box.
It raises the blood sugar quickly, the insulin goes up.
Then some mid more, if you're working in the office,
or even if you're working at home. Sometimes there's a
mid morning snack, usually based on carbohydrates, and the insulin

(23:40):
stays up, and then we have a lunch, and if
you've got a high pressure, fast work pace at work,
you don't have time to eat a decent lunch unless
you took the time to bring one with you, and
you end up eating fast food or the sandwich from
the sandwich shop across the street, or whatever else that's
loaded with processed carbohydrates. Blood sugar stays or your insulin

(24:01):
levels stay high, and then you crash in the middle
of the afternoon and you're reaching for a soft drink
that's got caffeine and sugar in it, or some kind
of snack, or some M and MS or something else,
or a Snickers Snickers satisfies you know. Then your insulin
levels stay high, and then usually you have a carbohydrate
center dinner, unless you're one of these few Americans who

(24:23):
are waking up to this and begin to take very
careful care as to what you put into your body,
and your insulin level stay high again, and then after
you eat, you may end up sitting on the couch
to watch your primetime TV stuff or whatever else and
you start reaching for some kind of chips or snack
or something else and your insulin levels stay high. The

(24:43):
point I'm trying to make is when your insulin levels
stay high on a regular basis, it's caustic to the
lining of the blood vessels. That causes the body to
start lining these blood vessels with cholesterol, which is your
body's band aid that narrows the blood vessels and raises
the blood pressure. And there's drugs that you can take

(25:05):
for that, but they weaken the heart and the muscles
at the mitochondrial level, and the result is exhaustion. And
then factors like the bioflavonoids that are found in the
high phytonutrient complex that I'm talking about cataplex c are
needed to maintain the integrity of the blood vessel lining,

(25:30):
and they can be damaged, as I said, by high
insulin levels. They can be damaged by bacterial infections. High
blood glucose irritates it as well, along with the insulin
viral bacterial infections. I think I said that, and it
comes to us as a weakening of our immune system

(25:52):
as a result of the standard American diet. See, we're
eating ourselves into high blood pressure, as we eat ourselves
into liver problems, and we eat ourselves into kidney problems,
and we eat ourselves into immune problems. And one of
the most striking things about the immune system and this

(26:12):
I just about fell out of my chair when I
saw this report the other day. There's this doctor. He's Asian,
and I can't remember if it came from a study
in Japan or if it was an American university, but
I'm sorry, I can't remember his name. He's well known
for immune system research. And he said this striking thing.

(26:37):
He said, we know the cause of cancer. It's a
weakened immune system. And I'm sitting there. Did I hear
what I thought I just heard? Did I really hear
that they're finally recognizing this. I don't know how many

(26:57):
years I have been saying this on my health Shah.
Cancer is a deficiency of the immune response. What causes
our immune system to get sluggish, the same thing that
causes high blood pressure. Our lifestyle choices, and there are
foods that we eat, primarily processed sugars, that stunt the

(27:21):
immune response. You have cells in your immune system that
are specifically designed to go after cancer cells. I call
them the swat cells because most cities anymore that have
at least no. Twenty thousand or more population in the
police force have a swat squad. They're specifically trained, as

(27:45):
you know, you see the swat squad squad when they
show up. They jump out of a you know it
kind of a military vehicle and they've got their helmets
and their dark glasses and their packs and their suits
and their armor and their special weapons and the everything else.
You have something in your immune system just like that
called the natural killer cell, and the natural killer cell

(28:09):
goes after cancer cells. And there have been studies. I
love these. I bring this to my patient's attention from
time to time where they take your blood and they
take a sample of it and look at it under
the microscope and they identify the natural killer cell floating
around in there with the red blood cells as well
as the leukocytes, the white blood cells, and they do

(28:32):
account and this is how they determine when you do
a blood panel. It determines all the different the neutrophils
and these inophils and the monocytes and the whole batch
of blood cells and what they're the population is. Then
they give you some glucose to swallow, a glucose solution

(28:53):
that you sit there and you drink it. Thirty minutes later,
they take another blood sample and look at it under
the microscope, and they see these same cells getting a
little bit sluggish in their movement. Then they give you
more glucose. You go through this three times. You wait
a half an hour, and they take another blood sample

(29:16):
and look at it under the microscope and these things
are just kind of they're moving, but they don't seem
to have a purpose to them. Then they take another
sample of glucose. You drink it down about one hundred ccs,
which isn't a whole lot, and wait another thirty minutes,
and those white blood cells they're either a wall or there,

(29:39):
or they're stationary. They're not moving in and around the
red blood cells. What's the whole point of before Doug
joins me here, before too long, what is the whole
point of what I'm trying to say? We eat our
cells into high blood pressure, We eat ourselves into disease processes.
And I am absolutely adamant with my pa. We eat

(30:00):
ourselves into cancer. Can you eat your way out of it? Well,
there's plenty of research to go by, but you listen
to you talk to your oncologists about that. You don't
talk to me. I don't treat cancer in my clinic.
I offer nutrition for my patients with cancer to help
support what the oncologist is doing, but we don't treat cancer. Well,
I'm going to join Doug here in a few moments.

(30:21):
I want to invite you to the Good Day healthshow
dot com slash podcast for all these things we've been
talking about, and then all the podcasts I have at
forbiddendoctor dot com as well, where we talk about this
stuff constantly. Doug's going to join me here in just
a few moments. Don't go away. I'm doctor Jack Stockwell
at forbiddendoctor dot com. We will be right back here.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
We are back on Good Day Health. I'm Doug Steffan
with Jack as I love so much to talk to
him and get his thoughts on things, including something that
came out this week Jack that I thought, this is
the number one reason I have to have a conversation
with Jack this week. The story from the University of
Melbourne in Australia that X rays for arthritis are a problem,

(31:12):
And I thought of thembout my neck and all the
X rays that you have done, because when you are
treating me as the Nuka chiropractor expert that you are,
I always fix my neck and shoulders and stuff. But
this suggests that too much.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's like it's isn't it when you get down to
brass hacks. It's how much not just that you're doing it,
but how much how often do you use X rays?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
And well, certainly and also what the strength of the
X ray beam is. The X rays that I take
in my clinic actually are less than dental X rays
as far as strength is concerned, because I'm just trying
to see what's going on at that very thin part
of the neck below the skull and the bones that
are inside there. So I have a low grade, a

(32:00):
low dose of X ray. But I also have filters.
I have lead filters that go in front of something
that's called the collimator. The collimator is something on the
front of an X ray machine and it creates a
protective field so that the X ray only is exposed
to an area where you want it to be exposed.

(32:22):
If you were doing a full spine X ray from
head to pelvis is one thing. So you would set
the collimator for a bigger beam. If you were just
taking a picture of say, looking for arthritis in the
wrist or something like that, it would be a very
very small beam and you would close the collimator down
and it would be a very weak exposure of X

(32:42):
ray for the wrist as opposed to a full spine.
And the only way you can confirm arthritis is with
an X ray. Now, I'm not familiar with that study
that you're talking about. I'd like to take a look
at it, but that's the only way you can tell.
And arthritis, of course, is arth meaning the joint, and
iis meaning inflammation. It's just an inflammation of a joint

(33:03):
that takes place for another There's a number of reasons
why we might have arthritis, but the only way you
can confirm it is on an X ray. Now, I've
taken several X rays of you over the years when
i haven't seen you for some time, and I'm a
little concerned about what's going on. I don't guess when
it comes to working with somebody's spine, and the only
way I can tell what's going on is with an

(33:24):
X ray, you can't feel it. I could, you know,
you can only see it on an X ray, But
I use very tight filters with you to decrease the
dose as much as possible. Now, it's interesting that that
study comes out from Australia. There was a study that
came out maybe a decade ago from the University of
Washington where they said we are way overrating the dangers

(33:47):
of X rays because we're constantly exposed to X ray anyway,
and depending where you are on the Earth, there's X
rays coming out of the Earth and you're being hit
with X rays from the Sun and from the Cause Center,
and that is a part of our development as human
beings upon this planet. So there's always been a lot
of controversy, but the biggest thing is too much, that's

(34:11):
too strong, especially when you're dealing with cancer, then it
can be a serious problem.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Well, there was a story this past week. I think
one of the great things about those of us who
read a lot, we pick up a lot of information
here and there. There's a story about the testing that
was done in the desert just before the nuclear bombs
or atomic bomb was used, and it took place about
thirty miles.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
From a resort. While they put it there.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
God only knows, But there was a family of seven
that were swimming in a pond and when the bomb
went off, they saw it. It overtook them, and before
any of them got to be thirty, they were all
dead of cancer. You don't think that that, you know,
And that's obviously the largest X ray that you can

(34:59):
think about.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
That's what it is, right, it's absolutely well. You got
all the downwinders in the Western States, the downwinders from
all of the explosions that were taking place in Nevada.
Even to this day, downwinder cancer problems still comes up
in the news with people that are our age who
were exposed as kids back then still succumbing to cancer

(35:21):
that they relate to the testing.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
There's the story of John Wayne and the entire crew
of a I think it was Geiga Genghis counters the
Barbarian was the barbarian.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I don't know. It's film.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, I think it's out there very close to where
the bomb took Uh, yeah, you know took place and
they all died of cancer.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
John Way was seventy two and he died, and many
of the other people on the crew died early as
well as It's very interesting and an interesting link to
keep in your mind. Doctor Jack Stockwell, Good Day Health.
I'm Doug Stephan.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
This program was produced at bobk Sound and Recording. Please
visit bobksound dot com.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
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