08-01-25 He Said She Said -- STOP! IT's Hobby Time!

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episode of He Said, She Said? I am your hostess, Saggie,
and with me is the very awesome rowdy Rick. How
are you doing tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Who apparently suffers from premature intonation. I'll do it all right,
getting used to being back of the swing of things,
trying to get used to full workload again. Love the
fact that I'm not having to, you know, go back
to like I'm camping in my own home. So yeah,

(05:20):
that's so yeah, that's a boon.

Speaker 9 (05:22):
That's definitely a boon.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's been a good week.

Speaker 9 (05:26):
Good getting back into the whole group of things.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, yeah, good. Not good at the same time, because
now I've really realized how much work I have been doing.
And I'm like, no, wonder I was tired all the
day time before my house tried to kill me.

Speaker 9 (05:42):
Yeah, and you know, there's only so much you can
do with like five hour energy and stuff like that.
I mean, that's my sister. I'm speaking about my sister.
I'm not saying you do that, but she gets you know,
she gets up at four o'clock in the morning to
get ready to go to work, and she's out the
door around a little before seven, And I'm like, you

(06:03):
get up at four, Why does it take you three hours?
What are you doing those three hours? Well, you know,
I have to shower, I have to do my hair,
excuse me, I have to do all this stuff. And
I'm like, yeah, I don't see it.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, sounds like somebody takes them like twelve hours to
get ready to go to the hospital. Anyway, I got
to thinking about it after the top when when we decided,
because you were like, have we done hobbies before? I'm like,
I don't think so. I think we talked about it before,
but now I remember why. I think we decided not
to do it the last time I got brought up

(06:43):
because I realized all my hobbies aren't hobbies for me anymore.
There are all things I do for a living.

Speaker 9 (06:48):
Now, like, well, you know, if you find something you'd
like to do for a living, then you know it's
it's not a job, it's you know, what's the saying.
I don't even remember to say.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's something that you love to do and you'll never
work a day in your life.

Speaker 9 (07:06):
That I don't believe it, But it's that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Because I'm doing the things I love to do. In
the days when I'm like, you know what, I just
really don't want to get into bed. Yeah, yeah, But
I will admit that this is still a lot more
fun than what I used to do. Even if I
have to hustle a lot harder to make the money
right now, it's still a lot more fun than what
I used to do.

Speaker 9 (07:28):
I can imagine. It's a lot better than what the
you know, the stuff that you were doing prior to this.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
At least I'm not getting yelled at about other people's
money anymore. There you go, that's how bad their their
deadbeat baby daddy's are and ships. I'm like, I'm only
supposed to be on this call. I got a good
time in your life. Story? Was that mom?

Speaker 9 (07:55):
I heard, Yes, she came to wish me good night.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I would have said good night mom too, but hear me.

Speaker 9 (08:05):
I think all the disruptions are over. I can't guarantee
anything live radio.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
What happens.

Speaker 9 (08:16):
She has been keeping me pretty busy here. I mean,
she's so happy that it rained because it's been so
dry and she, you know, we were watering everything and stuff,
and get up this morning it's all dry again. And
I ended up going to Low's and bought a bunch

(08:40):
of plants because while I was gone, they all died.
We weren't here was you know, nobody was here to water,
nobody was here to take care of anything. So everything died.
So if the pot is empty, I have to put
a plant in it. I mean, I've gone to that
point in my life where it's like I can't have
an empty pot. Well, my mom, I got that from
I'm on so I got like two you know, things

(09:07):
of impatience. So they were like, that's twenty four because
it's twelve each, and we planted those today and I
got hostas and I got my I had to get basil,
and I had to get resemary because I use those
all the time, and they died while I was gone.
I got some mint, and I got you know, all

(09:28):
sorts of verbs, and I got more you know, the
lantanas because those died too, and everything, and so things
are starting to look great. It's not up to her
standards yet, but it's getting there. So she I'm so tired.
I just want to go to bed.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Oh so this is why you wanted to do it
during night. You got to combine in your corner.

Speaker 9 (09:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. Oh but yeah, tonight's the
topic is going to be about our favorite hobbies. And
I don't that your hobbies have now taken over your
life and that's what you do for a living. But
I'm sure that there are other things outside of that

(10:18):
that you'd like to do.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh yeah, I mean there are other things I like
to do that like nerdy things like play video games,
build computers. I don't build computers much anymore because now
it's cheaper to just go buy them. But I used
to love when you could you know, go buy the
parts and put a machine together and get like four
times better than what they had on the shelf for
like half the money. You can't really do that anymore.

(10:42):
But yeah, my dad, the first time I ever told
him that I was building my own computer, He's like,
I couldn't get you to get under the hood for nothing,
but you can build a computer, Like yeah, yeah, I understand, Yes,
I actually, yes, I knew you had at least some
mechanical deals, Like you didn't figure that out when you
busted my ass for taking my stereo to apart and

(11:04):
putting him back together when I was six years old.
He was so mad at me about that because they
got a new one, so he gave me. And this
was way back in the day, so this was like
full on I think it was a pioneer. And it
had like speakers that were almost as big as I was,

(11:25):
probably about three quarters of my size, and had the
record player, the AH track player, all of the above,
you know, because we're talking like the lead seventies.

Speaker 10 (11:32):
And he came in one night and I was sitting
on the floor with the back of it off and
was taking all the little all the little boards and
stuff apart.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
And he's like, what what do you do? And it
sounded a lot like Hank Kill at that moment, I'm
hank Kill. And he proceeds to give me the whole
This is gonna hurt me a lot more than it's
gonna hurt you. But come here, boy, and I'm like, yeah,
that's a lie. And of course, because back then that
was you know, when you did something you weren't supposed

(12:04):
to do, you got corrected. So after he proceeded to
lay a few across my backside, he said, now you're
going to figure out how to put this thing back
together and make it work again. And I did within
like two or three days.

Speaker 9 (12:21):
Not bad, I guess.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah. I mean he was kind of surprised that I
was able to do when I was six. But then again,
I started reading when I was like three and a
half four years old, so that that freaked my parents out.
That is actually a hobby that I really love, and
I haven't done enough of it because I read all
the time for work now, so anytime anytime I want
to pick up something to read for fun, I'm just like, yeah, no,

(12:45):
not really, but dude, I love to read.

Speaker 9 (12:49):
That's one of my top five.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I still remember sitting in my parents' living room in
the house that they bought when I was three, so
this is probably about seven eight months later, and They've
got the TV on, in the lamps on, and I've
got a Doctor Seuss book sitting in my lap and
they're just in there watching TV. And all of a
sudden they hear me starting to say the words from
the book. And this I'm again, probably three and a
half four years old, and my mom looks at my dad.

(13:14):
My dad looks at my mom, and she's like, is
he reading that book? My dad like it kind of
sounds like he's reading that book. And I still remember
what it was. It was Things in a People House
by Doctor Seuss.

Speaker 9 (13:26):
Oh, I love that book.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
That was.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
That was like my favorite one because that probably because
it was the first one I ever read to myself.
But I used to love that book. Green Eggs at
Ham was my second favorite.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Gee.

Speaker 9 (13:45):
I think my favorite is the one that he wrote
for adults, The Son of Lady dis Yeah, that one
was just for adults. It was never released as a
children's book, but it wasn't the format of a children's book,
but it was called The Seven lady good Divers, so

(14:07):
you can imagine it wasn't bad. It was just not
for kids because they were talking about the lady good Divers.
They were all, yeah, you know, and how they had
to get married before they could leave home, and there
were seven of them, and it was it was really cute.
I mean, it's an adorable story. Something I would read

(14:31):
to my kids.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
So wouldn't they was it was that the title of
the book the seven, because I was just I was
just curious because I'm surprised, because that would mean he
made a grammatical error. Should technically be the seven Ladies
Good Diver?

Speaker 9 (14:48):
Yes, And I maybe maybe it was. I mean, the
man was a good writer, so I doubt he made
a mistake, so I could be.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Wrong, but on purpose. I would just curious because I
was like, that doesn't yeah, because yeah, it's just weird anyway.

Speaker 9 (15:10):
But yeah, I remember doctor sus Fondley. I cried and
cried when he passed away. I was really really bereft.
But anyway, moving right along, Since you are kind of limited,
why don't you go ahead and go first to talk

(15:32):
about I don't know your top three, top five?

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh well, I'm if I'm gonna go top five. And
again I've already kind of touched on my my I'm
probably the least of my five anymore because I really
don't read much unless it's work related. But yeah, I
would definitely have to be reading as far as top
as far as my number four. Again, something I don't
do very often but I love to do is to
go fishing.

Speaker 9 (15:57):
Ooh. Yeah, I could see where that would be a
really good hobby because it's a very relaxing casual. I mean,
I know there's competitions for this. I watched it on
TV every so often, and you know, people go insane
over this stuff. But if this is a hot I
mean you sit and you just wait for the line

(16:18):
to nibble nibble on or whatever. I can see where
that would be a very relaxing hobby for people. I
don't particularly care for it. I've done it.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I will admit it became more of an enjoyable hobby
after adulthood because I can just go sit on a
sit on a bank somewhere with a line and a
pool and a nice chest full of beer.

Speaker 9 (16:45):
Well you know what, I have ice chests, and I
have a lake and a dog. You can and places
to sit. So, yeah, there you go, you can. You
can exercise your hobby here.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Everybody, get everybody, get ready to drink. Because one of
my favorite it scenes that's happened a couple of times
in Stargate SG. One is when Jack convinces everybody to
go fishing at his at his pond behind his house,
and I remember that, I think. I think it was
the first time Daniel went there, just sitting there and
talking and just hanging out and got the poles in
the water and Daniel looks him says, there's no fish
in this pond, is there? He's like, nope.

Speaker 9 (17:21):
I remember and Mobius, which was supposed to be the
last episode, and that was I think season eighth. They
were all out there because they had re established a
timeline and a fish actually jumps out of the water
and they look at it, going.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, I remember that, what remember? What the hell?

Speaker 9 (17:46):
Yeah? So it's it's no, it's a really nice relaxing holiday.
My kids enjoy it, my husband loves it. I stay
inside and I cook whatever they bring home, all right,
So for me, you know, it was really weird. I

(18:07):
was making my list and I started thinking to myself,
what are my hobbies because I just I don't know
if you remember. There was this movie I think it
was like it was supposed to be funny horror. It
was called Idle Hands. Yeah, I remember that one. And
he had to keep his hands occupied otherwise his hands

(18:29):
would kill people. He wasn't responsible. Hands were possessed. And
so there's a scene where Devin Saw was like knitting.
He's just trying to keep his hands hockey. It's so anorable.
But I started thinking, you know, I do I need
to keep my brain engaged. I need to keep my

(18:50):
hands occupied all the time. And I like I've gotten
it back into the habit of writing. And I write
long hand. I don't like using my laptop or a
computer or a typewriter to write letters. I've never liked it.

(19:11):
I've always enjoyed the method of writing long hand, you know.
And yes, I still write cursive. And there are some
people I don't write cursive too, like my nieces. They
don't know how to read cursive. So I actually have
to print everything. But even that, just printing, you know,
on a piece of paper or on a card, it's

(19:32):
very relaxing for me and one of the things that
I enjoy is. When I was in college, the movie
Out of Africa came out, I think it was eighty five,
and it was a story of Isac Dennison, Danish writer
also known as Karen Pumplixen, and her journey going to

(19:56):
Africa and running a coffee plantation and how that encouraged
her writing and she became a very well known, beautiful writer.
I mean, it's just her writings are just completely enchanting.
And there was one scene where the character played by

(20:17):
Robert Redford is given the opportunity to challenge her to
tell a story based on one line, one prompt, and
so he gives her this really ridiculous prompt and she

(20:38):
runs with it, and so she develops this entire story
and he's just immediately smitten by her because of this
story and everything, and it just it gave me the idea,
I don't have to have an outline of a plot.
I can just have a prompt, you know, and everything.

(20:58):
And so that's how I do my writing. My short stories,
they're all about prompts. They're not really an outline because
I'm not writing a book or anything like that. But
I do write all of my stories long hand. I
do write, you know. Like I said, I still write
letters and everything, and then sometimes I'll just look at
my notepad, you know, and I like to use lined paper.

(21:22):
I do may seem a little ghost, but I still
like line paper. And so I'll sit there and I'll
you know, I'll get the address book out and I'll
open it and it's like have I written to somebody? Who?
Have I not written too lately? And of course, due
to the tubultuous summer that I've been having, I've I've

(21:45):
had to put that off for a while. But I
got back into it. I started writing letters yesterday and
so I sent some out and that made me feel
really good because I'm getting back into that. It's been nice.
But yeah, writing has always been something that I enjoy doing.
And it doesn't even have to make sense. I'll just

(22:06):
sit there and write the same the same sentence over
and over. I feel like Bart at the Bart Simpson
at the chalkboard, you know. Yeah, it's just the act
of writing. It's really It's very soothing to me. So
that's one of my favorite hobbies. I'm glad. I'm good

(22:28):
I got back into it.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, if I'm going to do anything free hand, I
have to use line paper or it starts to look
like Hansel and Gretel getting lost in the woods, because
this sentence is just kind of start going everywhere, not
even gonna lie. It gets ald like there, like and
it's there. There was one time I was trying to
write on like it just a regular piece of paper
and write a quick notice for going to be like
two or three sentences. First of all, if I if

(22:51):
I'm writing free hand, I have to use block lettering
because other people can't read my cursive. My mom used
to joke with me that with hand writing like that,
I should have been a doctor, which is why I'm
glad most of any thing I do know is typed.
But yeah, it was literally like there was one sentence
that started off looking like really really good, and then
it was at a forty five upward degree angle, and
then the next sentence was like almost fifty degree down.

(23:13):
I'm like, I don't even know how I keep doing that. Yeah,
I got to the point where I had to like
put a piece of notebook paper underneath it. If I
was going to try to write line.

Speaker 9 (23:22):
That was a that was a cool cheat sheet because
my my that I used was the line paper underneath
the blank paper. And my grandmother was adamant that I'd
not used lined paper to write letters. You should use
blank sheets of paper of good heppy you know weight.

(23:48):
And oh yeah, I had to use, you know, a quill.
I had to use you know, a fountain pen. Yeah,
and I and it. I mean, she was she was
really strict when it came to the I guess etiquette
of writing a letter.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
But well that's because that's where she was used to.
Those were that was the etiquette of the day. Adults
didn't write online paper. They wrote really really legibly. They
their handwriting looked almost a lot like calligraphy by the
time they were done with it. It's just how things
were back then.

Speaker 9 (24:27):
Well, yeah, she was very adamant that I learned the
calligraphy and all that stuff, which, you know, save my
ass and penmanship. It really did. But this is this
is something that I completely enjoyed doing. I mean, I y'all,
I cannot wait until Thanksgiving weekend where I can sit

(24:47):
down and start feeling out Christmas cards.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
All right, sorry, this has to be done. I'm sorry,
Al what was it? I'm sorry, Calvin? What was this about?
Jessica Alban in ninety Apparently I need to find this movie.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
Uh, yes, that that was her. She was in Idle Hands.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
That was her.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Apparently I need to find this movie.

Speaker 9 (25:15):
She's she's she's very cute in it.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
What is what is Jessica album not cute in?

Speaker 9 (25:25):
Yeah? Okay, point point point taken.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Okay, Yeah, I don't. I don't remember that. That's and
see this is this is hard for me to admit,
but I actually do not remember that.

Speaker 10 (25:39):
I do.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
And I thought that's the anything wrong with that?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
No, I'm not. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with
it at all. It's just with the way my memory works.
I'm honestly surprised that I don't remember Jessica album being
in the ninety So maybe I actually haven't seen that movie.
I could have swore I had, So maybe I need
to go find it and watch it.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Maybe I haven't seen it. I'm pretty sure I would
have remembered that, I hope.

Speaker 9 (26:02):
Oh well, yeah, I'm sure some streaming service has it
where you can find it out on YouTube or something.
But yeah, she's in there.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
That stuff used to drive me nuts. Danielle in the
chat says, yes, it was sister Mary Margaret Aggie. I
got my hand smacked by a ruler for not doing
the loop on the small queue. The little loops and
stuff with cursive always threw me, like it took me
forever to have to be.

Speaker 9 (26:28):
Correct because I mean, like, if you're doing the letter oh,
the loop has to come all the way back down
so that you can do the next letter. So you
can't just loop it off unless it's just single. If
it's just the letter oh, then you can loop it
off like a little baseball cap. If it's not, you
have to loop it down. And you just didn't know.

(26:51):
You didn't know when to do that because the teachers
always like changed their minds at the last minute whether
or not to loop it down or not. They were evil.
Penmanship was an evil class anyway. So you've done your
number four, right, and yeah, I've done only number five
because you did you did reading a number five. Okay,

(27:15):
I guess I'll do my number four so that we
can catch up. But you can go ahead. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
No, it's fine. You can either go again or I'll go.
I mean, honestly, the next one I was going to
talk about, it's kind of the same thing you just
talked about, but not in the same way, because I'm
not the whole fancy you gotta write calligraphy style type person,
speaking of which having senior handwriting on multiple occasions. I
hate you me. I say that with love, but I
hate you. I wish I had your handwriting. I would

(27:45):
probably like writing things in my hand more if I did.
But yeah, I know. But now I too, enjoy writing
in several formats. I used to write poetry all the time.
I've actually written some short stories and I republished them.
But I do get paid to write, so that something
that I've always enjoyed doing. Actually, I am still trying

(28:07):
to find time to carve out to write that children's
book that I wanted to write. I thought I was
going to be able to do that this summer, and
then my house kept trying to kill me.

Speaker 9 (28:14):
Yeah that was this is not the summer for anything fun.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, summer's almost over. And you know, my in between
getting sick for like two weeks and then my house
trying to kill me like four weeks later and being
down dealing with that off and on for almost a month,
two weeks of thinking I'm going to get it fixed,
two weeks of it being completely busted. Yeah, it has
not been a fun summer, but ye, but yeah. So

(28:40):
writing has always been something that I've enjoyed doing, and
like I said, I've written a few short stories, never
published anything yet. Started trying to write a science fiction
book when I was I think I was a junior
in high school when I came up with the idea,
got about halfway through it, and then realized I had
no idea what I was going to do with the
rest of the story, and I'm like, fuck it. And

(29:00):
then when I was I think I was it was
I guess it was shortly after I got out of
the hospital. I came up with this idea for a
Star Trek book and an alternate kind of timeline thing,
and I put all the notes together, got it all
put together, and like an idiot, sent it off to

(29:20):
the folks that usually published the Star Trek books and
never heard anything back. And then probably five six years later,
Andromeda comes out, and half the stuff in that series
was stuff that I had written about in the books
that in the Trek universe. No way, I was like,
use sons of bitches, you sons of bitches. But yeah,

(29:45):
so no, way to prove it, though, because I was
an idiot, I didn't. I didn't even do a poor
man's copyright version of it and mail it to myself
before I mailed it to them to show when it
was actually put in the mail. I really should have
done that, and I didn't. But it's a it's okay.
We live, we learn, we do stupid ship, or sometimes

(30:06):
we do stupid ship, and then if we live, we.

Speaker 9 (30:08):
Learn true true true.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Kind of kind of sums up my entire childhood. Let's
go to something.

Speaker 9 (30:14):
Stupid that's prevent all of gen x's childhood.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Oh dude, don't even get me started. Because all these
gen z fuckered wine and on social media.

Speaker 9 (30:27):
My goodness. Yeah that was we can we can say
that for the end, but yeah, I have I have opinions.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
But yeah too. That's why I wanted to bring it up.
So put a pin in that we'll come back around
at the end, because I.

Speaker 9 (30:42):
Got we'll circle back.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Jenski Speaking of thoughts, I'm not usually the liberal women,
but for Saki, I might make an exception.

Speaker 9 (30:55):
She's pretty. I've always thought that she was very pretty.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I have, I have, I know, I know, I know.
It's red in a bottle but reads so all right.

Speaker 9 (31:12):
So I guess everybody can guess that this is one
of my favorite things to do for as a hobby.
And it's kind of unconventional because not a lot of
people do. But I paint rocks.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I figured that was going to make the list that
made the.

Speaker 9 (31:26):
List, because I never thought to put that on the list.
But I'm like, I have I mean, seriously, I have
all of my paints organized, you know, by type. I
have the boxes of sizes of different sizes of rocks,
you know, organized I have. I have all brushes. I
have so many brushes, and you know, it's really funny

(31:49):
because I'm most people are like, oh, you just need
a couple of brushes to no, no, no, no, I
need I need, I need lots. I need lots of
brushes because each brush does something different, you know. So,
and I never thought of it as a hobby because
the way it started was the COVID lockdown. Kids were

(32:13):
forced to stay home, they could go to parks, you know,
and everything. So a lot of us got together a
young lady, she was a sophomore in high school at
the time, and she founded a you know, rock hiding group,
and so we started doing that. We would leave rocks
for kids to find to entertain them so that they could,

(32:35):
you know, have some kind of cheerful thing going on
during their day, you know, or whatever, and so and
not all of us would go and drop them off
at the same time.

Speaker 10 (32:46):
You know.

Speaker 9 (32:46):
It was just like I would decide, you know, it
takes me three or four days to actually finish a
group of rocks or whatever, and then I would go
hide them in several different places so that kids in
different areas would have a chance to find them. And
they didn't even have to be fancy. There was the
one hundred Smiles rock drop. So you take a hundred rocks,

(33:11):
and what I would do is I would spray paint
them and then put googly eyes and then draw out
the little smiley face, you know, and I would drop
those and you know, it's nothing fancy, but kids would
love to find something like that. And I could not
believe it. But one of the kids I went I
spent the night at my sisters when I was driving

(33:33):
up here with my mom, and I went to see
the young lady that bought our house. She's a friend
of ours. And I'm walking down there. I hear somebody
call my name and I turn around and it says
young man, and I'm like, you look familiar. And it
was one of the kids that used to find my

(33:54):
rocks and he would post them on the on the
group and I'm like, oh my god, it's been five
years and you're already like a teenager. What He's like, yeah,
I just want to say hi. You know, I still
have all the rocks that I found that are yours,
because those are the prettiest ones. And I'm like, okay.
He was real sweet. So a lot of kids actually

(34:16):
keep the rocks. They don't rehide them. They you know,
and it's a it's a pleasant memory. And so I
got used to doing that, and now I start doing
it for people that I know on online on social media,
and I do it for people around here in town.
I've actually I actually do it for one of the

(34:38):
restaurants here. They have really big rocks outside, so I
asked permission to take one so I can paint it
so they can display it. And so far they have Christmas, Valentine's,
Mother's Day, Father's Day, Fourth of July, and Thanksgiving and they,
you know, I said, are there any other holidays y'all

(34:59):
want me to and they said, you know what, why
not do Kwansa and uh Hanukkah as well. So I
have those two to do, but I have time. I mean,
it's it's not until like late no December that I
need to take those in.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
But this is this is going to be the best
Christmashna Kwanzica ever.

Speaker 9 (35:28):
And it you know, it's it's funny because I didn't
set out for it to become a hobby. It's just
turned into one. It was something that I was doing
in order to cheer up kids or cheer up people
that needed something, you know, because it was the lockdown

(35:49):
was no matter what anybody tells you, it really did happen.
Even in free states like Texas and Florida, we did
have a time where things were locked down and we
couldn't do anything. We couldn't we kids couldn't go to school,
we couldn't we could barely go to the grocery stores.
As it was, you know the kind of thing. I mean,

(36:11):
it did happen. I see it online all the time.
We never had lockdowns and I'm like, you are not
gonna go. You are not gaslighting us. We lived through that.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, we all lived through it. Yeah, when when you
sent me the rock that you sent me, when I
started talking to you about the idea of putting it
together as like a business model, and you were like, no,
I'd already done half of it in my head. I
was I was about to build you like a digital store.

Speaker 9 (36:39):
It was, oh my gosh, no, I'm not. I'm not
believe me. In my group, I was the more cartoony
of of all the painters, and so mine were not
very artistic. There were several women that had painting backgrounds.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
You've seen them.

Speaker 9 (37:02):
I know, seriously. There was one lady. She actually had
a money thing going on in one of her rocks,
and everybody was killing themselves to find that stupid rock,
like you would not be. I was like, yeah, I
have no chance. So I never even tried to look
for the rock. And somebody found it, you know, and

(37:24):
it's so so it's it's kind of cool, you know,
whenever they have rocks and they tell you know, they
tell you on the on the group, Hey I just
left a bunch of rocks at this park. You know,
have fun. The last time I was at that park
dropping off rocks, I let the you know, I set
them all out, and then I told the group that

(37:44):
I had because I was literally on my way back
up here, and so I put I'm sitting in the
on the in the parking area, and I'm telling them, hey,
you know, it just dropped a bunch of rocks here
at this park, blah blah blah blah. And one of
one of the ladies was literally about to start walking

(38:06):
when she gets a notification. She looks up and she
starts looking for me, like, I know you're here, Aggie,
where are you? I wait, and she can't. We had
a nice little talk and I told her, yeah, I
just I dropped like twenty twenty rocks that I spent time,
you know, painting before coming down. I was on my

(38:27):
way down. That was the time that I went out
to be with my dad for a while, and then
I was coming back up. So for that whole five weeks,
that's what I did. I would paint a rock a day,
and I was like saving them just to drop them
off somewhere. One of them actually ended up in Arkansas

(38:50):
and I just saw somebody, Yeah, somebody posted in the
group that I belonged to. We found this rock in Tacoma, Washington,
and it was one of mine, and I'm like, holy cow,
what the hell is it doing out there? But you know,
this is something that people do. They'll find the rocks

(39:11):
and then they'll move them to a different park where
it's found by somebody else, and then they pick it
up and they move it to a different park or
a different area, and it just all these rocks draw
I have one that I found here from Alexander, Virginia,
so I'm you know, I'm like, what are your long
ways away? I kept that one. It was pretty.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
See. Yeah, Now if I was going to make you
a store, it would it would have a different name.
It would be your sister who did the traveling rocks.

Speaker 9 (39:47):
Yeah, pretty much. But you know, I just if I
were to do that, And several people have asked me,
you should sell your rocks, and then I was like,
then it would lose all the meaning that I put
into it. It would become a chore. I don't want
it to be a chore. I want it to be fun.
And that's you know. And I learned painting techniques as
I as I go, and and it's a challenge. It's

(40:10):
a lot harder to paint on a rock than it
is to paint on a canvas.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well, of course, but that's why you should sit up
and take commissions because then you're getting challenges from other
people and you're getting paid for it.

Speaker 9 (40:20):
Well, you know. And I was surprised because every so,
you know, you can do a search for painted rocks
on Etsy and there's several people that do it, and
I was looking at some of them, going oh wow,
yeah I would buy this one, but a lot of
them I'd be like, I can do a better job
than that.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
You know, it's like, what this is why you should
have a store. I'm gonna sit over here now, don't
mind me.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
All right, what's your next hobby?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Oh? Is it my turn again? Oh yeah, I guess yeah.
You just spent like ten minutes talking about painting rocks.
So what are we up to? I'm up to number
two now, right up to from be on three?

Speaker 9 (41:02):
No, well, I don't know anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Just like technically I have number three's anyway, because my
second my second number three, because I didn't kind of
have one that was tied for it. I don't know
if it would really be counted as a hobby, but
I love to swim, like I spent most of my
summers like in leaks and pools and ponds and all
the above. And I still really really love to swim.
And it's funny because of one of my uh in laws,

(41:29):
who's married to one of my cousins, saw pictures of
me when I was I guess, probably seventeen years old,
and this was back when I was like swimming all
the time and working out and weightlifting him all the above.
He's like, dude, you used to be jacked and I said, yeah,
I was jacked up until I couldn't walk for a while.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Remember.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
He's like, oh, yeah, I kind of forgot, but yeah,
so I mean, like I said, most of I don't
even know if that would really count as a hobby,
but I absolutely love to do that. Another and another
quick one. I guess I don't have time to do

(42:06):
it anymore. But video games. Actually, my ex used to
yell at me about how often I played video games,
and that's what actually inspired me to start doing stuff
like this, because I was playing all these games where
I spend hours at a time online making all this
fake money, and I'm like, with everything I already know
how to do, and when I learned how to do.
If I can't figure out how to make real money
on the computer, I'm not living life right.

Speaker 9 (42:26):
Good point. Now, I've I'm one of those where people
I've never actually played video games, but I see the
attraction and I know far, far too much about video
games for somebody who doesn't play any of them. But
that's I think through osmosis living with people who do play.

(42:49):
And I know a lot of friends at play.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
You live with people that play one of one of
your one of your stationmates used to go through life
as a fifty foot mech tank.

Speaker 9 (43:02):
So yeah, yes, there's that one. Our beloved Elf is
a gaber as well. There's several people at Kale are
Kale are in our gamers, So yeah, I mean it.
You know, you start learning about it. I actually own

(43:22):
soundtracks from several video games because they're so soothing, they're
so cool. Skyrim, I have that.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Some of those. And Danielle makes an awesome point the
pet rock made a million dollars, so just imagine what
painted rocks.

Speaker 9 (43:38):
Oh that's true, true, but you know it's like my
teacher used to say, she when we were learning about
American artists. You know, she's teaching about Jackson Pollock. And
as everybody knows, Jackson Pollock used to just drip paint
on canvases and and that was it. And uh, you

(44:01):
know one of those students in our class that I
could do that, And she looked at him straight in
the face and said, but you didn't, and we were like, yeah,
he was. He was the first, so of course he
got famous, just like the pet Rock dude was the
first and got famous for that.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yes, al that was Almach's first appearance on food Bar
was during gabor Gate.

Speaker 9 (44:27):
Oh yes, oh, yes, that is correct. I remember that
gamer Gate. Man, those were the days.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Hey what is this downward spiral? Sir?

Speaker 9 (44:38):
Why do you why mean to us, it's more like
a twirl, not a word spiral.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I mean with.

Speaker 9 (44:49):
Yeah, So all right, I guess my turn. Yep, all right,
so everybody knows this one. I love to restore furniture.
I'm all about that, but not just your number one. No,
it's actually not my number one. I love furniture restoration,

(45:13):
but there are some pieces that cannot be restored, and
some pieces that should not be restored because they're emptyf
or plywood or particle board or anything. That's not really wood.
So I like to transform them with you know, paint
and stuff like that. And most of the time, it's

(45:35):
like I always tell everybody, it's up to the owner.
It's never about me and what I want. It's always
the owner's wishes come first. I try A lot of
the time I tried talking them out of it. When
I had clientele back when I lived near San Antonio,
one lady had a beautiful buffet, solid solid maple, gorgeous lines.

(46:03):
It was just it was a beautiful buffet and she
wanted it painted. And I asked her what color is like, well,
I love green, and I'm like, okay, what shade of green?
And so we started looking through all the shades and everything,
and she picks one that was was by a company

(46:27):
out of sugar Land called Lounge Paints, and it was
called Gator Green. It's a vibrant, very vibrant green, but
it's a it's a medium tone. It's not like lime.
And I'm looking at that, going, that's going to be
a statement, you know, where do you plan on putting
the buffet? And she says, I want it as soon

(46:48):
as you walk into the dining room. I want that
to be the first thing you see. Well, it's very
hard for it to be the first thing you see
if you have a dining room table, right, So I said,
if you wanted to be a statement piece, and it
has to be up against this wall because when people
walk in here, they're going to be seeing the dining
room table and then they will see the piece, you know.

(47:12):
So we were discussing where she wants it, and then
I took a chance and I said, but you know,
this is beautiful maple, and it'd be a shame to
hide the grain. And she says, what do you mean?
And I said, well, tell you what. And I I

(47:33):
was a traveler, so I did not not like the
Irish travelers. I didn't have the customer bring the peace
to me. I would go to the customer and take
my stuff and work there. It was more convenient for them.
And I didn't have a lot of space in my
garage as it was, so that's what I would do.
And so I said, let me show you, and so

(47:55):
I took one of the drawers and took it outside.
I said, it's going to take about twenty men, and
I took some of the stripper and I put it
on the drawer front and everything. And then I removed it, Kitty,
I removed it. I cleaned it with mineral spirits. I
let it dry and she's looking at it, going, oh,

(48:15):
it looks slighter. I said, yes, because you removed you
removed the varnish. Now you need to remove the stain.
So I waited for it to dry. And as you know,
as we're waiting for it to dry, you know, she's
talking about other colors that she really liked. She's like
black too, And I said that piece was so big.
Black would have just been like the only thing in

(48:37):
the room, you know. And so once it was dried,
I took out my little mouse sander, and I started
standing off the stain and then I cleaned it again.
And she looked at it and she's like, can you
make it look like that? And that's when I knew
she had no idea what was under the varnish. It

(48:58):
was so old that it was just the It just
looked like brown paint to her. And so once she
saw that, I was like, I have saved it. I
have saved it. And I did. It took me a
while to strip everything off of it and then sand
everything down and then I had to wet it so

(49:20):
that she could see what it would look like with
just the the mar the clear coat on top, and
she didn't like that. She wanted no orange to come through,
so I had to give it a tan wash and
then seal it. And it looks stunning and she absolutely
loved it. She was going to hire me to do

(49:42):
the entire dining room set as well, but I was moving,
so I referred her to somebody else who could do
the same thing. And I literally told the other person,
this is what I do with this one, and this
was the tan wash that I used and so that
it would match. And she sent me a picture. Everything matched,
so that was great. But I was so happy that

(50:05):
I was able to save it and not covered in
green paint. But like I said, it's always the customer.
They have the last say, and I remember being tagged
into a thread. This woman was absolutely raging because this
old buffet was being painted peacock blue. And I don't

(50:28):
know if anybody is familiar when you're using chalk paint.
The first coat looks horrendous and you have to trust
the process. You're going to need at least two or
three coats of that go to it to be solid.
So the only thing that you're shown is the first coat,
you know, because you have to let it drive for
about twenty four hours before you do the next one

(50:50):
to make sure it's adhered correctly. And this woman was
just absolutely insane with ragees to what was being done
with the buffet. And I got tagged into this over
and over and over, and I said, y'all, here's the thing. Hey,
it's her fucking buffet. Okay, it doesn't matter if you
don't like it. That's her esthetic. And she's gonna paint

(51:12):
it blue and it's gonna look really nice for her. Okay,
it's her buffet. I can't. I mean, I have painted
furniture at home, and I am sure some people are like,
oh my god, I can't believe you did that, you know,
but it pleases me. It makes me happy. Those are
my pieces, you know, And I couldn't rescue everything, so

(51:33):
I cover it with paint, you know. But in this case,
it apparently made this woman so rapidly angry, and she
had like twenty three thousand likes for being so angry
over this, and I kept being I think I got
tagged twenty times in this in this thread, and I
just said, guys, y'all, it's it's her, it's her buffet.

(51:54):
She can paint it whatever she wants to paint it.
I don't understand if you're trying to make me mad,
not succeeding. Now you want to make me mad, use
it for kindling, then I'll be pissed because it's a
perfectly usable thing. And if you're just going to destroy
it just to burn it, then yeah, that'll piss me off.
So but anyway, so yeah, I do. I love furniture

(52:18):
restoration I have. I just got my hands on a
Franklin Shocky Vanity and I am so excited because it
matches the desk. Remember the desk I was covered in
black and white paint. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, so it
matches that one. And I'm like, I am on my

(52:42):
way to a complete domination of Franklin SHOCKI. But this
one looks good. I just have to remove the stain
and then just you know, clearcoat it and it'll be done.
But you know, my daughter asked me, are you going
to paint that? I was like, absolutely not, what are
you crazy?

Speaker 4 (53:02):
No?

Speaker 9 (53:03):
And she's like, well, you paint everything. It's like, I
do not paint everything. I just paint certain things that
I cannot rescue, that's all. And she's like, yeah, whatever,
but yeah, yeah, everybody has an opinion, just like they have,
you know.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
But nice.

Speaker 9 (53:28):
So all right, So where are you now number two?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Or yeah, I'm at my number two? I kind of
touched on this one already too, but it's still like
one of my all time favorite things to do, or
at least it was before it got so damned expensive.
I love building computers that I don't know what it
was the first time I re managed to build my
own and turned it on and actually worked. It was
just like I got to the point where I was
building a new machine like every six months. It wasn't

(53:54):
my fault though. My father in law was the same way,
and he would always go down to fries in Dallas
and get all the so anytime he was going, he's like, Hey,
I'm gonna go get some stuff for some upgrades. If
you wanted to give me a list of the money,
and I'll grab it for you while I'm there, And
my wife be like no, no, no, no, no no,
And I'm like, you know, it's you know, what's happening,
you know what's happening. Just just just just it'll be okay.

(54:15):
So yeah, I think in about the two or three
years that I was doing and I built like six
different machines each way. The only thing I never tried
to do was figure out how to do the water
cool stuff. I really really wanted to because then I
could like go nuts with the memory and overclock it.
But I never got I never got brave enough to
work with the water cool stuff. I regret that now,

(54:37):
But yeah, I loved I loved building machines. I built
a gaming machine once and one of my sons was like,
can I have it? When I built my next one,
I was like, sure, fine, whatever, I'm building a new Oneway.

Speaker 9 (54:52):
Wow, that's nice. That's a nice gift.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Yeah, but yeah, I miss Fries. I don't even think
that story exists anymore. But I haven't really messed with
it forever ever since he passed away. I kind of
it didn't It wasn't as much fun because I didn't
really have anybody that I could talk with about it
on the regular anymore. That was kind of how we
bonded was we were both computer nerds.

Speaker 9 (55:16):
Oh m hmm, Okay, I will cry. I won't cry.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
I'll do it, don't do it. Yeah, it's it's funny
because I have like shelves and shelves and shelves of
DVDs that he that he actually stole over the years.
But he was so afraid he was gonna get in trouble,
he figured out how to make like exact replicas of
the cases and everything, so you wouldn't know it was
stolen unless you really looked, really really close, because he went, well,

(55:46):
he statu of limitations has expired, and he's he's deceased.
So yeah, he was actually using some of OU's computer
stuff that he would bring home to do some of that,
which is another reason why he was afraid he was
gonna get caught.

Speaker 9 (55:59):
Oh boy, yeah, I can see I can see why
he was a little paranoid. Yeah, I would be too.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
He was cool though. He got me with something once
that like the first time I ever got invited over
to his house. I started looking at stuff on the
walls and he had what looked like an autograph picture
from President Bush, you know, with him working with the
National Weather Service. I was like, is this did he really?
He's like, no, I did that myself, like, damn, that

(56:29):
looked cool though, He's like, that's why it's on my wall.
It looks cool. But yeah, it wasn't me. It wasn't him.
I did it. He just took a picture of him
and basically wrote it out like it was a autograph
to him. I was like, Eh, okay, cool. I guess
less cool now, but.

Speaker 9 (56:50):
Oh boy, alrighty, So where are we last one?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Uh? Well, since I went, I went first, so you already.
Actually I don't know where we are anymore.

Speaker 9 (57:03):
Okay, I'm my last one.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah you should be your last one.

Speaker 9 (57:07):
Okay. So my favorite hobby is anything to do with
the needle arts, so cross stitching. I like embroidery, I
like doing crew work, and it's the only thing I

(57:27):
don't like a lot is needlework because of the blocking
that you have to do after you finish, you know,
to stretch it out and all that stuff. But I
can get over that. But out of all of those,
I think cross stitching is my favorite because it's so zen.
You're just counting making crosses, and it's just for me.

(57:52):
It's very peaceful and you're making a little work of
art with a bunch of little crosses all over the place.
It's really cute. Now that's said, I have not picked
it up.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
You weren't supposed to say that out loud, Stephen. That
was the quiet part she was trying to slip by.

Speaker 9 (58:09):
Yeah, it also satisfies that, Stephen. I do like to
stab things repeatedly and often. But you know that said,
I have not picked it up since my father got ill.
I used to whenever I went to my parents, I
would take a little kit. I would put a kit together,

(58:29):
you know, I would grab one of my patterns. I'd
get all the the thread you know, the embroidered flocks
I would need, put my my needles, my thread er,
my scissors, the ida cloth, all of that into a
little ziploc bag and I would take it with me.
And when my dad got sick, I would go to

(58:52):
the hospital. And I've been with him and and you know,
as you know, I would keep him company while he slept.
I would cross it while he was sleeping, and when
he would wake up, you know, we would talk and
I would try and feed him. I would do all
these things. And when he passed away, I just have

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not been able to pick it back up because of
the memory that's attached to it, but it is something
that I've always enjoyed doing. I think I started cross
the Team when I was fourteen. I think I was fourteen,
so several, you know, a few years ago. But my

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mom was the one that got me into embroidery. She
would embroider everything she Our dresses had embroidery and the hair,
you know, on the on the hem, on the sleeves,
in the front, everywhere. She would personalize all of the
hand me downs that she would get from my other

(59:59):
cousin or clothes that she herself made for us, she
would personalize with embroidery. And seeing her doing that, I
got into doing embroidery too, And so when I was
in college, I would do I would embroidery you know,
stuff and everything, and people just all my girlfriends were like,

(01:00:23):
can you embroider my initials on this? And I would
do it, you know and everything. And then somebody said,
how much do we you of you? And I was
like nothing, you just asked me to do it, and
I did it. It didn't even didn't dawn on me
that I could have charged people for this, but for me,
it was just fun. So and from embroidery. I moved

(01:00:44):
to crewel work. I did candle wicking. I did, you know,
all sorts of different needle arts and everything. And now
you know, sitting there if I'm watching TV, I've been.
I've been finger knitting throws, you know. I when I
was down with my mom this these past three weeks,

(01:01:08):
I went to the Michaels and I bought like six
skeins of big fat knitting material. Now and I just
started making a throw and so I finished it. I
gave it to her. She's like, it's so soft, that
it's so big, this is perfect for winter. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Oh she was.

Speaker 9 (01:01:30):
She was totally excited. Now, keep in mind she watched
me doing this, but she didn't know what I was doing.
So it wasn't until I finished it and she figured out,
oh to throw, So I gave that one to her.
I've made several four friends. There's well, a friend of
mine is getting married, and so she likes one particular

(01:01:55):
football team and her husband to be likes another football team.
So I made two throws in their perspective colors so
that they would, you know, whenever they were watching football,
they could have the throws, you know, whatever, and that's,
you know, our wedding gift for them, and it has
it's so much fun and it is so easy to do,

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and you actually have a finished product at the end
of it, you know. And I used to crochet a
long time ago, and my mother taught me how to
crochet as well, but I just I fell off of
that habit. I fell off of the crocheting and I

(01:02:38):
never did learn how to knit, and I know I
really should, but this is finger knitting is just a
lot easier for me, and it's a lot easier for
a lot of people. And I can easily put it
off without having to count a lot. So that's that
has been I guess this has saved me from boredom

(01:03:05):
at my mom's house when she doesn't have me working
doing something. I should say, yeah, today was fun. I
was outside waiting for hours. I want to die anyway,
So yeah, how about you? Do you have your last one?

(01:03:26):
Or is that was that your last one? No?

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
I actually have two morements. They're tied for anyway. Yeah,
Aggie outside waiting keeps hearing the French voice in her
head several hours later, all right, so of course one
of my number ones is what I do all the
time now, because everything I do on this stuff, I've

(01:03:51):
taught myself how to do, and it actually did start
as a legit hobby and it was cheaper than therapy,
so because yeah, so learning how to podcast, getting into broadcasting,
all that stuff's kind of started as a hobby and
now it's kind of what I do my other Probably
another reason this knit that my other number one is

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probably part of the reason why I'm as fat as
I am. I actually love to cook. I love to cook,
and in my first marriage I did like almost all
I did, like all the cooking, because my first wife
couldn't boil water without setting off smoke detectors. But what
I love is especially like trying to learn how to
cook new stuff, like there was with the little church

(01:04:34):
that we looked at, or that we that I worked
at for a while, we got big enough were for
probably almost a year we were doing like potlucks after
church every Sunday. And I had never made a pot
roast before. I cooked all kinds of stuff, but I
never made like a slow cooked pot roast. So and
we were buying meat from the meat market back then,

(01:04:54):
so I just took two of the smaller roast, and
I slowly cooked it all night long, and by the
time we got to eat it, all the grandma's in
the church were like, I want this recipe that made
me feel so good. When like the seventy and eighty
year old women were like, I can't believe you cooked this.
This is amazing. I'm like, oh, I feel I feel happy,

(01:05:14):
you know, So yeah, cooking his cooking is my happy place.
I don't know as much as I used to because
if I stand still in one spot anymore, my back
really hurts, so I have to eventually like your chairs
or go find somewhere to sit. But I still absolutely
love to cook.

Speaker 9 (01:05:31):
Very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I have a lasagna that my Italian friends say is
not lasagnia, it's pizza with noodle. What pizza because I
don't really like ricotta cheese, so I go nuts with
like reach crated parmesan.

Speaker 9 (01:05:49):
Oh okay, well it works.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
But yeah, they're like, this is pizza casserole. Like I
like it. Don't judge me.

Speaker 9 (01:05:57):
What's wrong with the pizza cassero?

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
I don't. In Chicago anyway, Everybody that I've fit fitted
too absolutely loves it, except for the one guy that
I knew that was Italian. He's like, you can't call
this slasagna. Like it's my house. I can call it
whatever I want, but I mean, but yeah, as far
as pizza castrole, that's pretty much what deep dish pizza is.
So it's not like there isn't already pizza castrole.

Speaker 9 (01:06:21):
I think that was the worst pizza I ever had.
Was the Chicago style pizza were there?

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
I like it, but not not the like it's soup.
I like Chicago. The weird thing is I like Chicago
style pizza, but not in Chicago because it's not the
same like the Chicago style pizzas that you could everywhere
else because they're a little bit bigger and they're deeper
and they've got more topics. I like that. But Chicago

(01:06:48):
style pizza from Chicago is like the weirdest shit that
I've ever seen. Like that's not that's not that doesn't
even count as pizza.

Speaker 9 (01:06:55):
It was, it's it's awful. I don't. I just don't.
I don't, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
My Ladania is not trash and I will fight you
for this. Sole Little America.

Speaker 9 (01:07:11):
Already came in had to put in his two.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Cents came in swinging, but you know it well, and
that's just it. Ricotta is kind of the star of
the show for lasagna, and I don't really like ricotta
cheese at all, so I found a way to get
created with it. Now I will eat it. I'm like,
I've done some freezer section lasagna, and as I've gotten older,
the taste of ricotta doesn't make me want to just

(01:07:34):
you know, run away screaming or go do other things.
But I just I don't really like it much. But yeah,
when when I make my lasagna, my kids are like,
this is awesome. And the last time we had the
guy over that made fun of it and called it
pizza would be a called it pizza cass role. I
put pepperoni on the top.

Speaker 9 (01:08:01):
Okay, you win. That was a good move to troll.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
So the funny thing is I only did that that
one time, and now every time I make it, the
kids want the pepperoni on the top.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (01:08:17):
Alty comes in with a good suggestion individual pizza pot pie.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Ooh, And then I could see that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:25):
That could work. That could definitely work.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
See, now I'm getting an idea for like the mini
versions with muffin tins and just make it like making
like a whole bunch of them. I could do that that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:44):
Oh boy, now I'm hungry for lasagna. I hope you're happy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I am, actually, but yeah, no, that that that my Alvin.
My mom did that. Oh my god. Anytime we didn't
because she's like, I'm not gonna go buy rick but
I've got cottage cheese in the fridge, I'm like, I
will not be eating with me. I'll make a sandwich.

Speaker 9 (01:09:07):
It's a totally different thing. Why would people put cottage
cheese in it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
I don't know, But I don't like cottage cheese to
begin with. So yeah, I was always a nope on
that one. But to me, that's honestly one of the
reasons why I don't really like ricotta cheese very much,
because it kind of reminds me of a finer grain
version of cottage cheese, and I just don't like the texture.
I've gotten used to it over the years, because that's
actually the reason I never really used to eat tomatoes
at all, was because of the texture. But now I've

(01:09:34):
gotten used to them over the years, and I can
eat them in small doses if I'm in the mood
for them. But I still it's like a texture thing. Yes,
I will freely admit I'm kind of admitting I'm on
the tism spectrum somewhere. Don't look at me like that.

Speaker 9 (01:09:54):
Oh man, I did say that reading was one of mine,
didn't I talking about reading?

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
I think you brought it up when I was talking
about reading.

Speaker 9 (01:10:05):
Yeah, because obviously I've reading is something that I've done
since I was very very young, just like you. And
that was something that I picked up on my own,
just like you. And when I came here, my reading
got super limited because the library at the elementary school

(01:10:27):
only had English stuff in it major Hispanic area. But
this is how it was back then. You came here
from another place. Yeah, you had to learn English. That
was the be all.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
I know.

Speaker 9 (01:10:38):
That's why I spent a year in ESL, in a
separate school, So I had to lose a year in
my elementary just so I could learn English. And believe,
I'm so grateful for that, Don't get me wrong. It
was the best thing ever. And so when I came back,

(01:10:58):
this was awesome because everything was open to me. And
I remember my dad would take me and my sister
to the library every Saturday and we would pick up
our books while Dad was over there reading his little
lestern and we had our I still have my first
library card. I mean it. When we got those library cards,

(01:11:23):
it was like, I mean, that was better than Christmas,
you know. My sister and I were so excited and
we'd go up there. And I remember one time that
I was going to be late returning a book by
a day and I was having a panic attack. I
was I was like, I called up friends to see

(01:11:46):
if their parents could take me because my parents could
not take me to the library. By the time Dad
got home, the library would have been closed, so I
had a twenty minute window. And I was calling friends,
do you think your parents library? I don't want to
be late with this book? And they're like are you
Are you insane? So you'll be late one day. It's

(01:12:06):
not a big deal. It's only five cents, you know,
and they'd be like, no, I don't want to be late.
I was like true panic mode. But it was funny
because the librarian, when she retired, she told my sister
that she hoped that she would my sister would carry

(01:12:31):
on in her shoes. And at the time, my sister
was like sixteen, seventeen or something like that. My sister
ended up being a librarian. She doesn't obviously she's not
working there, she's elsewhere, lives elsewhere, but she ended up
becoming a librarian because of that. So, yeah, never underestimate

(01:12:55):
the power of a library. But you know, reading has
always been something. I can get lost in a book,
and it's got to be a book.

Speaker 10 (01:13:03):
I can't.

Speaker 9 (01:13:03):
I mean, I have ebooks, but it's just not for me.
I don't particularly care for ebooks that much. Cookbooks, I
don't mind having them as an ebook. Technicals don't mind ebooks.
Guides ebooks are fine. But if it's you know, if
it's a mystery, suspense, fantasy, science fiction, military fiction, western,

(01:13:29):
that action, I don't care what it is. I have
to have the book. I have to have the physical
paper book. I need to see the pages, I need
to turn the pages, and I get lost in that.
It's part of the whole reading experience for me. My
sister's like, yeah, you need to get away from that,
you know, get on audible so I can send you books.

(01:13:51):
And I'm like, yeah, it's not going to work for me.
I don't want to listen to a book. I want
to read the book.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
There are some that I don't mind, Like there was
some there were some Startress almost at Star Trek Star
Wars books that were full on down as radio place
that I listened to back in the day. Those are
kind of awesome because then it's it's like, you know,
we've got it's not just somebody reading it, it's people
actually acting out the parts and their sound effects and
all that stuff. Now, if they go that far and

(01:14:18):
do them, I love those kind of things. But yeah,
most of the time, I would prefer to have the
book in my hand. And there's just something about reading, dude,
because it was just and maybe it's just because of
how my memory always worked, but I always felt like
when I started reading something, it was it was more
than just like even watching it on a TV screen,
because it was like I was in the book while
I was reading.

Speaker 9 (01:14:37):
Oh yeah, one time, I actually got so far into
the book and the story that I wanted to take
a trip to the place where the story was taking
place so I could meet the people that were in
the book. And it was complete fiction. And I don't
even have the excuse of being in my teens. I
was a fully grown adult time I had children by this,

(01:15:00):
I'm okay, but that's how that is. How far into
that story. I got to the point where I actually
had to put the book down and walk away because
I was so into it. And my husband came up
to me was like, yeah, have you finished your book?

(01:15:20):
And I said no, I put it aside for a
few days. And he's like, is it bad? Because he
knows that I had a really bad experience with pet
cemetery when I was in college and it was his fault.

(01:15:41):
So he asked me, is it a bad book? Like
I did it scary or something? And I said no,
I've just I thought something stupid, and I just I
can't believe that I just fell so far into that
book that I thought these people were real. And he
looked at me and said, you thought they were real?

(01:16:01):
I said, yes, I kid you not. I was already thinking, Hey,
it'd be great to go to this city in Great
Britain and meet these people, you know, because they live
in this small town. It'd be so great. And I'm like,
it's a fictionalized I mean, it's a complete fiction. And

(01:16:24):
and you know, my husband looked at me and said,
you know, that is quality writing. Then yeah, and I
looked at it. I was like, you know, you're right,
and it was I don't know if anybody else is
familiar with her Martha Grimes. She writes about a detective

(01:16:46):
at Scotland Yard and his merry band of misfits and everything,
and almost all of her books are named after pubs,
so you know, the Old Fox Deceived, the Five Bills
and Blade Bone, Deanna Dyne Necklace, and I think my

(01:17:09):
favorite was the fifth one. I think it was the
fifth one, the Old Silent, and that one I think
was the longest one that she wrote up until the
time that I stopped reading her books because she's like
in book thirty seven now and I'm like, these people
need to get a life, seriously, They're not even aging anymore,
so I have to give it up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
But so I have a question as somebody who And
again I don't read nearly as much as I used to.
But part of it is because I noticed I would
become like visibly cranky when a book was finished, because
I got so used to having it to read that
I once I had to put it down, I was
just like I was like like angry, like angry, angry

(01:17:51):
for like a day or so until I would figure
out something else to do. I'm like that with with
With series is now on Netflix. When I sit down
to bingewash something, when I get to the end of it,
just like the like there's like a feeling of dread
because it's over. Maybe that's just me, but.

Speaker 9 (01:18:06):
No, it's not just you. That's why I'm I'm strong.
I'm trying to stay away from book series because I
get really I want something to have an ending. Do
I like books to have endings?

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Well, the worst thing is like if you get into
a series of books like The Dark Tower and then
he takes forever to finish it, and then he finally
finishes it, and the ending fucking sucks. You're just like,
I wasted thirty years of my life on this shit.
You sun a bitch.

Speaker 9 (01:18:37):
It's just like George R. R. Martin. He can't seem
to finish that last book and then he gets mad
at people who bring it up, and I'm like, it's
your fault. You have the opportunity to finish the freaking book.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Do it.

Speaker 9 (01:18:49):
No, he won't do it. It's not because he can't,
it's because he's too damn lazy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Yeah, the funny thing is, you know, speaking of me
being an avid gamer back in the day too, there
was a game that I played. I started as a
computer game, but I didn't actually get the computer version
until later because I was always I was always more
of a console gamer for the longest time, other than
my Commodore sixty four. But there was one I guess
it was Christmas break. It was I think it was

(01:19:17):
either sophomore or junior year in high school, and I
found Wing Commander for Super Nintendo. Oh yeah, dude. I
played the hell out of that game for like the
entire two weeks that I was out of school because
my mom was never home, my brother was off doing
his own thing. So I'm just sitting there like for
two weeks, pretty much from the second I get up
till the second I go to bed, just playing the game,
playing the game, playing the game, playing again. And I

(01:19:39):
played it so often that there was the first day
we had to go back to school and I had
to turn my alarms back on for my alarm clock.
My alarm sounded exactly like the Clackson for the cutaway
scene when they're running towards her, and for like thirty seconds,
I woke up thinking I was in that universe, going
what the hell? When I look around, I'm like, oh wait,
oh yeah, yea, I can understand what you mean about

(01:20:01):
being so involved in something that you kind of start
feeling like either you are there or you want to
go there. That's like when I was when I was
a kid, I always I was waiting for the day that,
like the Enterprise d would show up and I could
kick Wesley Crusher's ass and take his place. Did it
ever happen? But I wanted it to.

Speaker 9 (01:20:21):
Did you Did you ever see the movie?

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Yes, that's actually one of the first movies I took
my youngest, well, my oldest son's my steps.

Speaker 9 (01:20:33):
I am, I'm not gonna lie. I actually liked it.
I didn't even I didn't even play the game, but
I liked the concept, and I liked the fact that
they had all of these seasoned actors in it as well. Yeah,
so that's I mean, and the whole concept of the
whole Pilgrim thing, and that was really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
So yeah, yeah, there was there was a lot of
deep story going on in those games, and then I
think that's another why there were so many of them.
But yeah, I mean, if you played the games, you
weren't really a huge fan of the movie. I didn't
mind it, but at the same time, I was like,
it's not what I expected. I figured it. I figured
because because the game is basically top Gun in space,

(01:21:16):
and I think the movie would be about the same,
and it wasn't.

Speaker 9 (01:21:19):
No, it really wasn't. But like I said, I was,
I was. I wasn't mad about it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
I mean it was a good like I said it was.
I think it was the first one I ever took
Kyle to. And yeah, so it was a good movie.
But that problem is I've actually found those games because
you know, you can find those kind of game stuff
and stuffed now for like free on computers, but they're
so clunky now that it's almost impossible to play on

(01:21:49):
the newer machines. And I'm just like I tried one.
I always wanted to play and never got it, never
was able to find it until recently they have like
a a I have a tier version of the game
where you're basically kind of off do in your own
stuff instead of being in the military. I always thought
that was an awesome concept, but I never really got
a chance to play the game.

Speaker 9 (01:22:10):
Oh too bad. Okay, so we got do we have
time to circle back?

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Yeah, we got about eight minutes. We should we should
be able to get a good rant in.

Speaker 9 (01:22:22):
Before the end, I was reading a lot of the
gen Z We're never going to make it crap today,
and I admittedly some of them had some serious issues.
Some had some concerns, you know, about the whole state
of the economy and all that stuff. But I was like,

(01:22:45):
you don't have it as bad as you think you do.
And my issue with a lot of them was, I
don't know if you'd caught this, but the New York
Times actually had an opinion piece or something about know
how people are living with strangers now and I'm like, yeah,
they're called roommates, and we used to have those a

(01:23:08):
long time ago, all the time. And it's like the
whole concept of getting a roommate has not did not
occur to jen Z and one of my girlfriends, her
daughter her it's her birthday today. Actually she's a gen
Z and she's going to be graduating from Baylor and

(01:23:34):
her parents set here up in an apartment all four
years all by herself. She has no concept of having
a roommate and when her schooling is done, she's going
to be attending law school somewhere else and it's very

(01:23:56):
cost prohibitive. She's going to go to UPenn, so that's
where her mother graduated from with her lawd degree. And
our mom says, well, you can always get a roommate,
you know, and that makes things better. And her daughter
was like, what do you mean A mom was like

(01:24:17):
a roommate, like someone to share expenses. They live, you
both live together in the apartment. One has one bedroom, deal,
one has the other bedroom. You know, a roommate. And
her daughter was like, I have to do that, Like,
you're not You're not gonna pay for my apartment? What seriously?
That was her thought. Now, yes, things are more expensive

(01:24:40):
now than they were back in nineteen eighty five when
I was out, But also I was not even making
minimum wage when I was working, you know, my little
jobs in college five dollars an hour for tutoring and
for housekeeping, and I was a dollar to proofread a

(01:25:02):
pay per page for graduate students. I mean that was
like really on the low end. And I didn't even
know this, but that's what I was comfortable charging, okay,
and it was good spending money, So that was you know,
that was okay. I had my scholarships, I had the
stuff that I had saved when I was a babysitter
throughout all of my entire high school years. And these

(01:25:23):
people were like, you know, everything costs war I'm like, yeah,
so guess what you can downgrade. You don't have to
upgrade your phone every year. That is one thing you
can avoid doing. You don't have to have fifty five
streaming services. That's another thing you can avoid doing. You
don't have to go out to eat every week. That's
another thing you can avoid doing. There are a lot

(01:25:45):
of things that you and I did when we were
in their shoes. We had no luxuries, and these kids
think that the luxuries are necessities. And that's one of
the that's one of the issues that I see with
a lot of the gen Z people.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Yeah, exactly, because everything that they view as a necessity
is something that I mean at one point, I mean, dude,
I mean I grew up, especially after my parents got divorced,
we grew up poor, poor. I mean, I think we
managed to get cable right before my dad left the house,
and half the reason my dad decided to start leaving
because the guyt tired of fighting with my all about

(01:26:25):
money all the time, because she wanted to spend more
than what we had coming in. But you know, I
mean so I grew up. I mean, shit it it
was a good night at my house if we got
I think back then they were fifty nine cent bean
burritos from like Taco Mayo. That that was my dinner
some nights because my mom was never home to cook.
She'd come in and throws some throw it back down

(01:26:46):
and run back out to her next job, like see
you to morning. But yeah, it's just and I think
that's part of it too, I mean, I I honestly
maybe because he called has made a good point. Gen
Z has a lot of ways to get their graping
out where everybody can see it, because I mean, I
remember grumbling about things with my circle of friends when

(01:27:08):
I was first getting out on my own, but it
wasn't like it was going out to you know, being
put where hundreds of thousands of people could see it.

Speaker 9 (01:27:16):
Well that you know, and Stephen also makes a good point.
They think that all of these conveniences, they that they
were accustomed to our necessities and they're not the door dashing,
the you know, delivery, all of that stuff that was
when I was growing up, having food delivered was a luxury.
I mean seriously, when my parents decided to order a

(01:27:40):
pizza from Pizza Hut and have it delivered, we were high.
Howked that's where we were at. We were like, holy crap,
we don't have to go to Pizza Hut and have
the pizza. It can come to us. This is awesome,
you know, that kind of thing. And to be fair,
I never thought that my generation had it bad. I

(01:28:02):
never thought that it was worse. Yeah, that it was
worse than what my parents went through, That it was
worse with my grandparents were through. I never thought that.
Why because I didn't see what they went through as
being reflective of what I was going through. What I
was experiencing was completely different. And we are the generation
that got to see the amazing dawn of the Internet

(01:28:27):
and you know, PCs and the portable phones and all
of these things that had been foretold by many prescient
writers from long ago and other TV series like Star Trek,
all of that stuff it's coming, you know, and everything,
and nobody's learning their lessons from Terminator. I'm just going

(01:28:47):
to put that out there right now. But yeah, I
never thought that the generations before me that I had
it worse than the generations before me. I didn't because
I saw what my parents did in order to put
food on the table. I saw my dad actually leave
his homeland to come over here so that we would

(01:29:10):
have a better chance of having a better life. I
admire that in my dad. He took a chance that
so many people wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
You know, to be fair, your dad couldn't go to
the farm if he was living in Puerto Rico either.

Speaker 9 (01:29:27):
So but you know, my parents did put me through school.
I supplemented that I had a scholarship. I did all that.
When I left, my parents were like, what are you
going to do now? And I'm like, well, can I
come home and figure it out? And they said, well, yeah,

(01:29:49):
but you can't stay here permanently. And I'm like, okay,
that's fair enough, and I did. I didn't stay there permanently.
I just wanted to go home figure out what I
was going to do. And then once I figured out
what I was going to do, I left. I left,
and guess what, I got a roommate. I moved in
with my old roommate from college, so that we could
split the bills and all that stuff, you know, and

(01:30:13):
when we had dinner. We had a set amount of
money for the week to buy groceries, and we would
split the costs of the groceries. And she and I
would take turns cooking each night and everything. And since
she worked a regular eight to five job whereas I

(01:30:35):
had retail, so I would work sometimes nights and sometimes days.
The leftovers went with her for her lunch, and I
didn't mind that. And so when I had days, you know,
she would ask me, do you want to take lunch?
And I was like, no, you go ahead, and you
know whatever, because she also worked a lot farther than

(01:30:56):
I did, And so I would make myself a little
and I would put it in my backpack and then
I would start walking to work. It was an hour
away walking, and so I would I would walk to work.
I didn't have a car, okay, I didn't have that.
We also did not have a telephone. We're going to

(01:31:17):
afford the landline at the time. Okay. So you know
a lot of people are like with their cell phones
and all that stuff, and they to them it is
a necessity and in this day and age, I can
see it being a necessity, but it doesn't have to
be that galaxy that folds, and it doesn't have to
be the latest iPhone that can fold your laundry. Although

(01:31:39):
if there were a phone that could fold laundry, you're
damn skippy. I would be buying it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Dude. I'm waiting to see what all the Tesla robots
can actually do, because yeah, if I can, I can
get my laundry for me. I will figure out how
to put that bitch on payments. I hate laundry, dude,
I hate laundry.

Speaker 9 (01:31:59):
I I I still to this day. I'm filled with
rage because Lost in Space had an episode where they
had a washing machine where you just put all the
clothes in there and she would hit a button and
suddenly the clothes came out clean and fold it right,
And I'm like, where is this? Where is this? Because

(01:32:21):
I want.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
That they're getting closed dude, Like I couldn't believe it,
and I guess it's been around for a couple of
years now. There's like a machine now where basically you
just put the clothes in there and you hit the
button and it starts by washing and then it pulls
everything out water wise and then it turns into the dryer,
so the same machine washes and dries. I'm like, if

(01:32:41):
they figure out.

Speaker 9 (01:32:42):
They've had that, they've had that in Germany for a
very long time, because when I lived there, they had them,
and that was back in two thousand and three, and
they had the singles where it would actually wash the
clothes and then it would dry the clothes. And the
way it drives is that it actually removes the water
from you know, the the clothing first and then it

(01:33:03):
tumbles it into the dry air. So it was really
cool and I always and I thought I almost bought
one for my daughter when she moved away, but she said, no,
I want it separate. And I was like, okay, fine,
you can have separate ones. Have it your way, but

(01:33:30):
just one more step, right, like you can fold it,
fold it full the clothes. They don't have to be
like perfect, they just have to be folded in quarters.
Even I'll take that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Dude, I've just got I've just gotten to the point
where I filled most of my stuff. Now let all
my dress clothes basically hang in the closet. Everything I
wear is casual, where nine times out of ten, it's
usually shorts and a T shirt. And like, if I'm
going to church, I'll put on a pair of slacks
and a polo or something.

Speaker 9 (01:33:59):
But yeah, you know, when you and I were growing up,
you know, when you and I were growing up after
you know, we went to college or you know, when
we're starting out and everything. I didn't have Nike shoes,
I didn't have designer clothes. I did not have those
things were considered luxuries. And I think that gen Z

(01:34:21):
is a little confused about what a luxury item is
and they don't seem to understand in this day and
age of instant gratification, that a lot of that instant
gratification is a luxury and it's something that you can
give up and save money. And you know, thus so
you can actually improve your quality your quality of life.

(01:34:42):
Later on, you do have to make a lot of sacrifices.
Gen X did a lot of sacrificing. Millennials have done
a lot of sacrificing in order to get to where
they're at. And gen Z seems to think, well, because
you know, the government has screwed up so many things,
we will never afford a high. Well, I have news
for you you can't afford a house. There are houses

(01:35:05):
to be had, but your problem is is that you
want it fixed and ready and convenient, and you want
all of the little bangs and whistles that come with it.
And no, that's not what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
That's not everybody seems to forget. There were these things
called starter homes, you know, you know, the one the
one you buy maybe like two bedrooms, one bathroom, just
as you know, maybe a place to start, and then
you fix it up a little bit, build some equity
and do it, sell it off and move into something bigger.
It's like everybody wants everything all at once now, and
I never I still don't understand that. Because the other

(01:35:39):
thing that drives me crazy about this whole instant gratification idea.
A lot of things that people think are instant aren't.
I mean, that's just like people are just now starting
to get a look at us, you know, because we've
been doing the video streaming and we're starting to spread
out a little bit more and we're working with some
other things like that, so we've got eyeballs on us.
So for a lot of folks, this is something that
to them is new. But they don't know about the

(01:36:00):
seventeen years I've been working behind it seems Stephen get it.
Just at this point, there's no such thing as instant
gratification unless you got a fucking microwave. That's it.

Speaker 9 (01:36:10):
Every and then it's kind of eye everything.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Else work well. Yeah, and then it just depends on
what your level of gratification is, because you know, microwave
meals aren't that awesome. But it's like the same thing
that I talk about with people all the time, because
you know, all these these new groups and everything that
are popping up, like, oh, these people are amazing. Nobody
thinks about the five six years they were doing dive
bars before anybody knew who they were.

Speaker 4 (01:36:34):
No.

Speaker 9 (01:36:34):
I you know, this was my starter home was thirteen
hundred square feet and it was in an area of
San Antonio that is really pricey. But because it was
a smaller home and not a lot had been done

(01:36:55):
to it, we got it for a really good price
at the time, and when it came time to sell it,
we had more than double the the equity on it.
So selling it was how we paid for the next
house and so forth and so on, and I would

(01:37:18):
make changes to each house that I got. But when
I got those houses, you know that. I'm very sure
had a gen x er seen the last house I
was at before this one, they would have said, absolutely not,
I cannot live in this house. It has berber carpeting.
Where are the solid wood floors? Seriously, I've had gen

(01:37:41):
X actually say that to me about the old house,
and I'm like, Okay, it's just it's really insane to
me that these they think that they have a bit
worse than the previous generations, and I'm like, no, you

(01:38:03):
have a different but you need to realize that you
can overcome those things. You just have to make sacrifices.
And I don't think they understand what making a sacrifice
really is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
No, they really don't. And that's just it. I mean,
if you figure out how to do it, you can
still get the things that you want. You're not gonna
be able to get everything you want all at once.
That's like the first brand new car I ever bought,
Like the like the first brand new car was in
twenty twenty and if I had known we were about
to get a divorce, I probably wouldn't have done it.

(01:38:40):
But it was a twenty twenty one Kia Soul. I'm
still driving it now. It's almost paid for. I'm gonna
drive it to the wheels fall off, because I don't.
It's a car. It does what I need it to do.
My house isn't My house isn't the best in the world,
but my mortgage isn't that bad. And I've been slowly
working on you know sometimes because I have to look
at you fuse panels to fix things up, you know,

(01:39:03):
because eventually, you know, I'd I'd either like to sell
it off and move into something else, you know, or
maybe even just take out an equity line on it
and get into something else and give this one of
my kids. I haven't decided what I want to do
with it yet. But if if, for all these kids
who are like, we can't do it, we can't do what.
We can't do it. The only reason you can't do
it because you haven't even tried yet. What makes their

(01:39:25):
generation so much different than ours is they don't have
parents that are like, fuck you, you're twenty years old,
get the hell out of my house and go figure
shit out. Why are you still living in my house?
Because that's basically what I got told when I when
my When my mom found out I dropped out of college,
she threw my ass out the next day. She's like,
you knew the rules, you dropped out, you got to go.

(01:39:47):
I had to go figure shit out. I couched her
for like six months because I had nowhere to go.
But part of what they see is struggle. Part of
it's because they've had the whole helicopter parents things going on,
who provided them all these things and give them all
these safe places to land all the time so they
don't have to go figure anything out. So then when

(01:40:09):
they start trying to figure things out, they get into
this vapor lock and they don't even know what to
do because they've never had to figure anything out on
their own because mommy and Daddy have handed them everything
and they're looking at there. This is so hard. Yeah,
it's hard because people didn't get you ready for adulthood.

Speaker 9 (01:40:26):
I feel like that's one of the things that gen
X did and raising their children was we were left
to be feral, and I don't want my kids to
go through that that kind of thing, you know what
I mean. I was not that kind of parent. I
was like, oh, yeah, well, okay, whatever, go so don't

(01:40:47):
come back in the house.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
I mean, I wasn't going to get your ass out
of the house and don't come back till the street
lights come on kind of parent, But I wasn't the
I'm gonna hover over you. And that was actually more
my second wife. As a matter of fact, one of
the biggest fights we ever had, and this was when
I think Kyle was probably seven or eight years old.
He had finally learned how to ride his bike without
training wheels, and she would only let him ride his

(01:41:10):
bike in the backyard in the grass. The boy is
riding his bike, now, just let him go, do We
fought for like twenty minutes before she finally came in,
and he just before before she changed her mind, he
took off pedling down the street to his nanny's house
because at that point we lived like right up the

(01:41:31):
street from her, and he was just pedaling, pedaling, pedaling
the shore that he was able to ride his bike.
But yeah, I mean, so I understand those type of
parents exist, but I've never understood why they do the
things that they do, because eventually the kids are going
to have to figure things out. I mean, I'm kind
of going through that with the kids that live with
me on a slower scale because it takes them longer

(01:41:52):
to figure things out. But they don't like me sometimes
because I make them go figure it out. Like there'll
be things that I'll need done, and I will drive
up there and I'll give David the list and I'll
be like, this is what you need to do. This
is what you're going to do. This is what you
do when you get there, and he goes and does
it because and I keep telling him, I said, I'm
fifty two years old. I ain't going to be here forever.

(01:42:12):
Y'all are going to have to start figuring some of
this stuff out. And they don't like it because they
haven't really had to deal with that before until the
last few years. And I have people to get mad
at me. They're like, these kids are special needs. Why
are you making them do these things? Because somebody has to.
I can't haunt them to make sure they get things

(01:42:32):
done right. I wish I could.

Speaker 9 (01:42:37):
That was you know, my daughter has a lot of
severe anxiety issues and severe OCD and everything, and I
finally had to tell her, I said, I can't do
this for you. I'm not going to be here all
the time. I mean, she had me. There were times
that I had to drive to college to deal with her,

(01:43:00):
and it got to the point where I just couldn't
keep doing that anymore. And I finally told her, I said,
you're going to have to figure this out. I can't
do this for you. She's like, well, I need help,
and I said, you do, but you're not willing to
accept my help and you're not willing to let me
take you to a therapist. So you're going to have

(01:43:22):
to figure it out. And she says, well I can't.
I said, that's not my problem anymore. I literally had
to tell her it is no longer my problem. This
is on you. You are twenty three years old and
you know how to do this. And no she was wait, no,
she was twenty one, and she was like, but what
do I do? I said, think about it, get back

(01:43:43):
to me. I actually had to step away. And she
was the one that I was always more protective over
because of her issues, and once I stepped away, she
started getting a handle back on them. And that's when
I realized I had been hindering it. I had been

(01:44:06):
The other two are feral, you know, my other two
were ferral children. That was okay, I mean they had
They did all of the you know, tree climbing, dirt eating,
rock launching crap.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:44:21):
As a matter of fact, when I told him I
had a set of charts, they were like, oh wow,
we can't wait for Christmas. So there, and they're all
excited about playing with you know, deadly missiles.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
On the launch. I just I just realized the hobby
I didn't talk about, I haven't. I guess it's because
I haven't done it in so long. But one of
the things I used to love to do when my
boys were little. We used to do model rockets. That
was fun. Kyle really got into that for the longest time.
For a while, he was actually like this. After every

(01:44:58):
Fourth of July, he'd be like, guess what I want
to do when I grew up. I'm gonna learn how
to do that. Even went even looked at it. He's like,
the first time he said that, he went and looked
it up to figure out what it was. And the
next year he's like, I'm gonna be a pyrotechnical person
when I grew up. Like that's a big word for
you kid, Good job.

Speaker 9 (01:45:16):
Hey, I'd love to set things on fire to buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
That's probably why we for like two weeks around here.

Speaker 9 (01:45:25):
Well, oh, I guess tangenically, I legos are a passion
of mine, so that's another hobby. Yeah, you know building,
you know, miniatures and stuff like that. Using legos to
make you know your only ole things speaking up, I
have to believe it or not. I actually have to

(01:45:45):
buy legos. I have a birthday party next weekend, so nice.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Yeah. Yeah, my oldest grandson is his birthday party on
the ninth, so I guess week five.

Speaker 9 (01:46:00):
My nephew, uh huh same. I'm not looking forward to
it because it's at a water park, and I'm I
just I hate those places.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
But it's for my nephew, so yeah, I wouldn't be
surprised at you third great parties. I've seen your Christmas decorations. Ma'am.

Speaker 9 (01:46:18):
Daniel is Madame Christmas. I swear I could not believe
the amount of the core that she puts in her house.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Y'all.

Speaker 9 (01:46:29):
It's like a winter wonderland and.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
From the from the woman who was a tree and
the ruined her house.

Speaker 9 (01:46:37):
Okay, but I don't even I don't go through what
she does. I don't decorate my bed with like bows
of holly and stuff. Okay, Danielle puts everything out. It's beautiful,
it's gorgeous. It should literally be on Southern Living. I
will die on that hill.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. We should we should petition,
shouldn't we should? You should?

Speaker 9 (01:47:02):
You should, Danielle, you should say you need to come
take pictures of my house. It's beautiful, it's gorgeous. She
show me some of those pictures and I'm like, I
need to go to Michael's. I'll be lobby up my game.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
I don't have you ever posted any Halloween pictures, Danielle.

Speaker 9 (01:47:21):
I think I've seen Halloween.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
I remember seeing your Christmas pictures. I've never seen your
Halloween pictures.

Speaker 9 (01:47:28):
It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
Oh all right, Well we're hitting We're hitting the point
where I have to jump off because I'm floating. So
where can folks find you?

Speaker 9 (01:47:40):
You can find me at Aguie Riekin and Naki the
Bar keep. Those are over on X eight thirty pm
Eastern Tuesday nights, doing the Cocktail Lounge with the Everswap
Brad Slager eight thirty pm Eastern Friday nights, doing he said,
she said, with the awesome you. The second Wednesday of
every month eight pm, the guys get together for Toxic Masculinity,

(01:48:01):
where we host a Baby of the Month and I
bring the drink of the evening, and Jeff and I.
On the first Monday every month, which is coming up
this coming Monday, eight thirty pm Eastern, we do spirited books,
so watch for us there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
How about you don't look for me to trap You
can find me Tomorrow night pushing buttons for the front
Port Forensic Screw starting at eight pm Eastern ten pm Eastern.
I'll be still pushing buttons, but also moving behind the
microphone for the makeup edition of Juxtapositions, so we can
work on trying to get things back on track because
it was almost six weeks without an episode, thanks again

(01:48:34):
to my house trying to kill me. And you can
find me Sunday night pushing buttons for Corn's reading Room.
Monday night back doing America Off the Rails ten pm Eastern,
Tuesday Night, man aramm a panel. Wednesday night full panel
including g should be returning, so we should have everything
back as far as I know, and then Thursday night,
I think I'm off Jen's been doing a lot of

(01:48:56):
vacation stuff and we haven't quite figured out when she's
going to be back from baking, so and then Friday night,
I guess I'll be back around with you when I'm
not doing all of that. You can find me as
a contributor on Misfitspolitics dot com, Twitch you dot com,
the Loftus Party dot com, and I also produce the
Loftist Party podcast, which drops on Tuesdays.

Speaker 9 (01:49:14):
Coolst Thanks everybody for joining us tonight and we hope
you have a great evening.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Thank you for hanging out with us at the beginning
of your weekend on a Friday night, especially since there's
over six hundred of you hanging out with us right now.
Bye everybody. Aggie must be getting used to the shock factory.
I didn't hear a gasp this time. Dang it got
its your herder next time. Bye, guys,