How UN Women will destroy us all | HBR Talk 378

UN Women’s complaints about the manosphere continue to include typical mischaracterizations, and a familiar plan of attack. They want to get rid of us. Last week, we continued reading their article on the topic, “How to counter the manosphere’s toxic influence,” and were inundated with harmful anti-male stereotypes and false allegations. We will continue with the diatribe of the International Harpies’ club this week. And probably next week, because this article is so full of bovine excrement that we’re likely to have a lot to say about nearly every sentence. And we may have to look at a few other publications in the interim.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three seventy This is
the wrong number, damn it. I have everything else right
in the stupid opening lines, Paige, it is three seventy eight.
HBr Talk three seventy eight. How you and women will
destroy us? All I have to fuck at least one
thing up every day or I will forget that I'm human.

(00:25):
It's a it's a thing, and I'm your host, Hannah
Wallen here with nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks in the personification
of perceptivity, Mike Stevenson, and we have the dog in
charge in the background, Brian Martinez, making sure that everything works,
all the things are thinking, and tonight we're still looking
into you and women's complaints against activists who support paternal

(00:48):
custody and due process rights. Only now they're talking about
how to get rid of us, you know, because that's
that's not conspiratorial or anything. There's no conspiracy, guy, as
it's all in your head. And uh, by the way,
they want us to shut the fuck up, So there
you go. But before we start, not shut shutting the

(01:11):
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top left. So I'm just gonna say top of the page.
Because the menu button looks like a menu button. It's
got those little three lines. So there you go. Yeah,
and I can see our chat is, by the way,
talking about the the the foibles of women, although they

(03:20):
don't realize that it's uh. They're they're discussing New York
City's new communist mayor, but you know it is. It
is women that vote for communism.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, hello, can I check if I'm all tobrew? Yes?
You are all right? Good, second to go.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
But it disappeared.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, just checking I again. My desktop sucked up, my
laptop fucked up, so I'm using my phone now. And yes,
I can confirm, uh, commun and Islam will be the
death of you. In a pincer movement, Welcome to life
in the UK.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It has now spread to the USA in its softest
entry point, namely New York.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
It is no longer a red herring, guys, it is
it is the blood of the city. I weep for
New York. You know. It's just it's the way. It's
the way women vote. And I think in New York
you do have a lot more women and other feminists,

(04:38):
male feminists, and and you know, most most of the
left wing is feminists. Either they acknowledge it or they're
like the Fifth Wave. Yeah, the fourth Wave, you know,
their thing was not all feminists are like that, We're
the good wave, We're the nice wave, you know, the

(04:59):
fifth wave. You know, like the fourth Wave was, that's
not my feminism, that all that horrible stuff. No, no, no,
that's not what happened. That's not my feminism. That's not
real feminism.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Uh, the the fifth wave is I but I believe
everything feminists believe, and I say everything feminists say, and
I am uh in lockstep on every issue with feminist.
But I'm totally not one. And I've run into several
of them, and they they are absolutely infuriating. And some
of them are presenting themselves as uh sort of traditionalist

(05:33):
bordering on m r A without realizing that we're not traditionalist,
not not as a movement. There may be traditionalists in
the movement, but the movement is not traditionalist.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
And yeah, there are there are. There are three things
that I criticize more than anything else in my online presence,
and they are feminism, leftism, and Islam and and some
and some may wonder how those things connected, but I
hope at this point you can see how they are
counterintuitively connected. And I won't even mention the fourth thing,

(06:13):
which is dark people, because that's going to piss people off,
as it always.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
You always pissed people off with the dog babe.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I'm not gonna that's That's not what we're here to
talk about.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
So the Canine Nights, that's horrible. Even that was really good.
But in any case, yes, and yeah, people are talking

(06:45):
about the waves now, can't keep track of the waves. Well,
this is this is what happens, right, You have sex
positive feminism and they they put a giant vibrator in
the waters of feminist movement. And so now the waves
are I mean harder, faster, and well weaker. Really, the

(07:07):
the the last two waves were pretty pretty weak. I'm
almost anticipating you know that the sixth wave of feminism
will be the death of the movement, but we'll see
what happens. They may turn around and like the sixth
wave will be a return to radical feminism being the

(07:30):
mainstream of feminism. And then then you know, we'll we'll
see more violence. But it just depends. It depends on
how Jen Alpha looks at at the isms and the
phobias and in particular all of the iterations of communism

(07:51):
that are being taught in their public school system. Yes,
murder of crows, they're there is something akin to an undertow,
but as New York has has just demonstrated to us,
it's actually a camel toe.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
A camel tooe.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
God damn it.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, it hit the puns right out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Hand us.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Sorry, can't help it. It's it's in my blood, not
the camel toe. The puns like that would be bad.
But in the meantime, you know, humorous side, we have
to talk about the serious issue of you and women
and there I don't know, their war there's ghot against

(08:48):
the men's rights movement because they definitely have decided we
must go. And last couple of weeks we were looking
at this, we very far in it and part of
the reason for that is that what we are dealing
with is a gish gallop, and I've I've run into

(09:10):
those before. Years ago, during the gamer Gate controversy, for instance,
Leonna Kurzner published a gish gallop against the men's rights movement,
how how much she hated the men's rights movement, and
the whole thing was a giant straum man. So it
was I haven't heard in forever. Yeah, yeah, I don't

(09:35):
usually discuss her because you know, I'm not. I don't
have anything nice to say about her, So like, yeah,
that's that's that's pretty much the extent of it. Like
I generally don't, but a gish gallop.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
By the way, you might wonder why there's no men's
rights movement in the Muslim world, and I suppose the
answer is because, well, of all places, I mean in
the in the Muslim world, men already have all the rights,
even more than in the West, where were where we
in the themisphere insists that men have all the rights

(10:16):
as well. But it's even more the case in the
Muslim world, right even though we're not allowed to say that,
but we do, but we do say that whenever it
comes up but if, if, if, if the Islaming well
was truly a patriarchy, it would have a men's rights movement.
It would have nothing, It would have nothing but a

(10:37):
men's rights movement where they continue to advance men's rights.
But they don't, I mean, they don't have much of
a women's rights movement. Well they do, I mean in
Saudi Arabia they recently allowed women to drive, which can
only be as a result of some kind of women's
rights movement, But they don't have.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Exactly in fact, you know, and this is something that
I've pissed off a number of feminists by pointing out.
By the way, if you are a lesbian, they don't
throw you off the top of the building, but if
you are a gay man, they do, or they execute

(11:17):
you in some other way in various states that are
run by Shuria law. There are numerous other things that
they do to men that they don't do to women.
For instance, men are if you're not married and you're male,
they're definitely going to rope you into military service. There's

(11:41):
no getting out of that. You will be bottom rung.
You're unimportant because you're not producing children, and therefore your
cannon fodder, or you're in the dirtiest of jobs, the
dangerous jobs, the nasty jobs. Whatever. If you're female and
you're not married and not having babies, they find a

(12:02):
way to get you married and having babies, which really
isn't anywhere near as dangerous as being in military service
in war torn nations that are all at odds with
the biggest warmonger in the world, which is the United States,
And so we end up, you know, we look at

(12:24):
Islam sometimes through a guynocentric filter from the West, because
we're it's so ingrained here that it's almost impossible to
completely remove it. It's almost like you're born with a
set of goggles, a pair of rose colored glasses that

(12:46):
sees everything through that pink filter and ignores all of
the bad that happens to men. Thinks of it as normal. Well,
it's just the way things are for men. You know,
these are necessary evils, but we don't have to also
do them to women. Blah blah blah, right, a similar fact,

(13:07):
when in fact we don't really have to do them
to men either.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
As similar thing to what goes on in the Third World,
especially the work goes on in what is often stereotyped
as as the as the right wing red states of
of of the South of the U s A. And
even what goes on in in in the in the
working class sticks of European countries, where if if you if,

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if two women are seen kissing each other in public,
they're not going to get stabbed, They're not going to
get beaten and dragged by a truck across the wilderness.
You know, they might get the occasional Karen coming up
to them and saying, but yeah, if two men are

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pictured kissing each other in any of these stereotypical, stereotypically
right wing parts of the West, yeah they actually they
risk being objected to all this bullshit, And yeah, it's

(14:22):
as intuitive as it seems that the same thing goes
on in the Third world, and especially the Muslim world.
People just can't get their heads around it, Like, yeah,
the same thing goes on across pretty much the entire planet.
Men loving each other is a hideous crime, punishable by

(14:46):
anything from stigmatization to death. But women loving each other
is like, well, yeah, sure, I mean, why wouldn't women
love each other? I mean, everyone else loves them, Why
wouldn't they love each other? I mean, we'd we'd rather
they contribute to society in some way, such as producing children.

(15:10):
I mean, if they really want to. We're not going
to push you that to We're not going to stone
you to death if you refuse to produce children. But if, if,
if men love each other in a way that doesn't
produce children, oh yeah, we'll fucking kill you, or at
least will we'll throw stones at you, or at least
will you know, will hassle you as much as we

(15:33):
possibly can. So yeah, so many of us, even in
the sensible right wing, we'll do anything they can to
stop men loving each other at any scale, like even
even at at the platonic scale. Like men can't hold

(15:54):
hands anymore, even even a hundred years ago, a couple
of hundred years ago, is definitely know for men to
hold hands. And that changed. It had a lot to
do with the Oscar Wild Trial, at least in Britain.
And yeah, in the last couple of hundred years, especially

(16:16):
since the advent of you know, political guyn of centrism,
which we call feminism, men can't even hold hands anymore
because that's considered gay, but is considered degenerate in a way.
That women holding hands isn't like, why is that women
can hold hands but men can't hold hands. There's nothing

(16:37):
sexual about it. It's friendship. It's failiures, as the Greeks
would call it. It's not eros, it's well it's a
gape and it's you know, to some degrees. But yeah,
I'm just I'm just illustrating that this is something the
West and the East and the Middle East all have

(16:58):
in common, even though it's at very different scales. But
it's it's it's it's much the same like men loving
each other for any reason, for any definition of love,
even if it's friendship, even if it's companionship, like it's
all stigmatized. Like we're not that different. Well, in a

(17:21):
lot of ways, our cultures are very different, like I
said in the in the way these these crimes are punished,
but there's they're still considered crimes in all sorts of ways.
I mean, homosexuality between men isn't punished in the West,

(17:42):
but men advocating for each other's rights very much is punished. Well, yeah,
it's it's it's great irony. If I if I stood
up here in Britain and said I love men, everyone
would cheer for me, because they assume that means that

(18:03):
I like to fuck men in their ass or get
fucked in my ass by men. But if I then
clarified that when I say I love men, I mean
I advocate for their rights, I'd get chased out of town.
And that's not gay. That's that's not gay, that's not
what it's considered homosexual lenity ways, it's just men sticking

(18:25):
up for each other's rights, which is why it pisses
me off that so many people are like blaming all
of this ship on on on people going too far
with human rights and they're giving too many human rights
to immigrants and whatnot. No, the the problem is that
human rights are being are only being given two to

(18:50):
the client class, to to the to the approved regions
of the progressive stack. Like men fucking each other absolutely fine.
Men supporting each other's human rights absolutely not. We will
destroy you.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
And also women have to take it over and control it. Yeah,
even men's sheds. If you look in on you know,
like there's there's been several different iterations of how can
men help other men handle difficult circumstances? Didn't men men's

(19:37):
mental health? Men's uh stress situations. You know, the the
difficulty of balancing work and family and uh, you know,
the the stress over getting the bills paid over you know,
all of the different difficulties that men face in life. Uh,

(19:57):
the responsibilities that men face in life that very often
women really don't unless they decide to live their whole
life without a man. And even then, if they have
kids and they don't have a husband, a lot of
times they qualify for assistance from the government, so they

(20:19):
still have a man in their life. In fact, they
have half of you know, three hundred some thousand men
in their lives. And so it's not something that really
women are aware of the degree of loneliness and like

(20:43):
the ability of life to just pull a rug out
from under you and there's nothing underneath living without a
safety net, right, unless you create your own by having
contingency plans in place and having them be actually workable
contingency plans. And some guys are not even in a

(21:06):
position to have that. They're barely keeping their heads above water, right,
and some of them aren't, many of them aren't. Most
of the people who are not keeping their heads above
water to the degree that they have no place to
live for instance, are men. And nine percent of the
ones that don't get help from anyone anywhere that are

(21:28):
completely unsheltered, they get stepped over in the street, arrested maybe,
but otherwise not helped at all, are men. So it's
something that women don't have a real solid picture of.
Most women think, what would happen if I go broke?

(21:51):
Oh well, I'll apply for welfare benefits. What happens if
I go broke? I'll go to my family for help.
What happens if I go broke? We'll start posting titty
pictures on OnlyFans, you know, and for six dollars a month,
like the average, but or whatever. A lot of times

(22:15):
men just don't have that option, even if they're young.
They don't have that option even not even and those
that do, you know, end up in in worse trouble. So, yeah,
the perspective is, the perspective is very different, right, So

(22:38):
it takes men to understand what other men are going through.
You can't get the mentality of I fully understand this
life without a safety net right where where you the
rug is pulled out from under you and there is

(22:58):
nothing underneath, and you just keep falling and rock bottom
is not the bottom. Like, only only guys really understand that,
m hmm, And only guys can really help other guys
deal with I have to be able to live every

(23:20):
day of my life and do normal things and exist
with that looming behind me. Women women can't help men
with that. When women are faced with that, they turn
to a man for support. They're never faced with the

(23:41):
whole thing because they do turn to a man for support,
or a lot of men for support. And they don't
even have to be you know, they don't have to
be the nicest women. They don't have to be the
prettiest women. They don't have to be there are to
be anything that a man thinks he's going to get

(24:02):
out of it for women to actually have success in
getting help from men in those circumstances, right, So, men
have created things over the years. There's the methopoetic men's movement.
There's been men's groups in and out of churches, men's activities,

(24:23):
clubs for men, organizations for men, and so on. Women
have invaded every single one of them. And now the
latest one is Men's Sheds, and it is it's never
going to change. Women are never going to stop doing

(24:43):
that because they don't see it as imposing on a
boundary that they should not cross. They don't recognize that
boundary issue. So it's up to men to just say no, no,
you can't come in here. This is a therapeutic space

(25:05):
for men where men are helping other men. The theme
of this is men helping men. You cannot come in here.
And there has to be a way for men to
argue within the court system that you know, women have
their female only spaces that they require men stay out of.

(25:26):
There must be at least some spaces that women stay
out of for men, and but unfortunately that's not the
case at this point, and it's taking of all of
all things. It's taking you know, women arguing about this

(25:50):
to get people to understand that no, you cannot just
give in every time women ask for this. Betina Aren't
is one of the bigger advocates of don't let women
into these spaces in in the men's shed movement, you know,

(26:12):
not not the biggest, and I know that there are
men who have explained this before her, but at least,
you know, women might listen if another woman says leave
them alone and let them have a space without you
mhm yeah, but Gish gallop. So getting back to Gish gallup,

(26:39):
and I know some Christians don't like the term because
it's it's in reference to an actual minister, Dwayne Gish,
who used to argue creationism against atheists. And his thing
is he would he would make these laws arguments that

(27:01):
had a whole bunch of different talking points that you
had to knock down. So it might take him thirty
seconds to a minute to say fifteen things. And you
can't knock those things, those fifteen things down without an
explanation for why each one of them is wrong. That

(27:22):
might take five minutes. And the example I used when
I was actually talking to Brian about this before the
show started was somebody says the moon is made of
green cheese. Well, the evidence against that is what the
moon is actually made of. But you can't just say

(27:42):
what the moon is actually made of. You have to
also explain why we know that and why that knowledge
is proof that the moon is not made of green cheese,
and also explain the way the moon would behave if
it was made of green cheese, What would be different
about it than the way that it actually is Because.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Cows on the moon there are no there are no
mammals on the moon. Do we have to spend an
hour proving that, I mean, somebody, that's every for every
small point of guests gallup, you can find a small
point of retort. It just it doesn't occur to us

(28:23):
until we've thought about it for a while.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
But when it comes to like actual debunking, like disproving something,
if you really want to solidly prove that that is bullshit,
you know, you absolutely have to, uh demonstrate this is
the actual truth. Is you know, A, B, C. And

(28:51):
here's the evidence of A. Here's the evidence of B,
here's the evidence of C, and here's how they fit together.
And uh that that video that I was talking about
that Kurzner made, she made a fifteen minute video. I
think my rebuttal of that was three or four fifteen

(29:13):
minute videos. It was. It was very long, maybe even
longer than fifteen minutes, but it was just one long
gish gallop that was also a straw man of the
movement's behaviors, talking points and so on, and so in
order to knock down each one, you know, again, there's

(29:36):
you have you have to explain the actual truth and
then provide evidence to back your case that that is irrefutable,
and you make an irrefutable case against each individual statement
it takes the statement might take ten seconds to say,
in five minutes to refute. So this article is like that,

(30:01):
it's a dish gallop and and so you end up,
like in an actual debate forum, you have limited time
to answer your opponent's statements. So they say you have

(30:22):
they have a minute, and then you have a minute,
and then they have a minute, and you have a minute.
If they have if they make fifteen false statements in
a minute, that each one requires a you know, several
minute rebuttal, you're gonna end up unable to address all
of their points. So that's why this was, this was

(30:43):
coined and it's actually been this this this fallacy has
been named since the nineties, so it's it's not new.
But in any case, so to the article, we got
through the paragraph on mental health, the paragraph on gender attitudes, uh,

(31:08):
the paragraph on dangerous social and dating behavior, and we
looked at a little bit. Uh, I think this was
the article the normal normalization of gendered hate speech, which

(31:28):
this was this was the article that it linked to,
and as I, as I showed here this was an
interview their uh, their their solid, their rock solid evidence
for that particular dish gallop was an interview in which

(31:49):
a couple of women just made a bunch of allegations.
Here they made a bunch of claims and talked about uh,
different feminist protests in history and and things that have
been said about feminists. But they really didn't get all into, uh,

(32:14):
exactly how this is, this is mainstream and so on. Instead,
you know, they talked about things like criminalization of uh
of a feminist protests and so on, without actually describing
what was criminalized or how so we don't know if

(32:38):
the thing that was criminalized was walking down the street
carrying a sign, you know that said sexual violence is
bad or which is unlikely that that that that would
be criminalized, right, or throwing you know, a molotov cocktail
through the window of a local Catholic church because they
oppose abortion, which did happen in South America and churches

(33:03):
were firebombed by by feminists over the abortion controversy, and
women were arrested, and they called the arrest misogynistic, as
if that kind of violence doesn't usually result in an arrest,
and only women have ever been arrested for fire bombing churches.

(33:24):
This is a common feminist tactic, right, they do something
that is unacceptable when men do it. That gets men
jailed for years and years and years, and if they
are arrested, charged, convicted, and and then even just receive
a suspended sentence. Oh the misogyny, you know, Oh, the

(33:48):
discriminations we have been We've not been excluded, we've not
been exempted from from culpability for this thing that you know,
there's the horrendous consequences when a man does it. So
that's feminism. So we are at less safety for women

(34:12):
and girls in digital spaces, you know. I yeah, I
hate it when I go into a digital space and
I fall down the digital stairs and break my digital
leg or my fingers. That's very digital, right.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yes, Yes, I've lost I've lost count of how many
times I've been raped in digital spaces.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yes, virtual rape is worse than being virtually murdered. Oh god,
it can't.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I mean, I'm being figurative, but in h in so
far as I'm being figurative, I have kind of being
raped in digital spaces quite a lot.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Part of his body shaming, mic.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I am I'm a raped husk of a content creator
in digital spaces. But you can't complain. I mean, you
can try, but you'll get arrested.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah. Uh so we remember, we looked a little bit
at their idea of online violence, and you know, it's
it's not like there's no connection to real world violence
between online actual threats not threat TOIDs. Right, the difference

(35:38):
between an actual threat and a threat TOID by the way,
I have received threat TOIDs. The kind of one threat
TOIDs that and he is archisi and raised like half
a million dollars on one of them was a chick
wished that I would be rape so I would know

(35:59):
what it was like, Like she wish that on somebody
that knows what it's like. But and feminists, you know,
they have this belief that they have at least a
twenty five percent chance that they're talking to a rape
victim if they're talking to a woman, right, But they
but she said that anyway, And another threat TOID was

(36:23):
getting docksed and having my my not just my address,
but my address, my parents' address, the last address that
I lived in, uh, the address of a friend of
mine that I lived with for a while, my address
when I lived in Findlay, Ohio. All of that was
published on X while on Twitter back before it was

(36:46):
X and it took them three days to take that
shit down. That's a threat TOID because nobody said We're
going to come to your house and kill you, right,
that would be a threat. Somebody saying I'm going to
come to your house and kill you is a threat.
Somebody telling everybody where your house is is a threatoid
or suggesting that something bad should happen to you, but

(37:06):
not saying that they're going to do it. And the
difference is if somebody says I'm going to come to
your house and kill you, and they do it in
a way that indicates you know they might be serious
and you should actually be nervous about this. That's a crime,
and you can actually file a complaint with police and
they will take it seriously enough at least to nail

(37:30):
down whether or not you're actually in danger, and if
you are, then there are further measures that they can
take that are mostly useless.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
You'd think it would be the opposite, because if someone
threatens to come to your house and kill you but
they don't know your address, then it is just pissing
into the wind. It's just a thought with no real consequence.
But if someone says nothing other than here is this
person's address, you say, it opens the door to anyone

(38:02):
who does want to come to your house and kill you.
Like it's it's worse if anything is far, far worse.
And this has happened to both of you, It's happened.
It happened to Lauren as well. It's it's by the
grace of God, Lauren. It's by the grace of God
that it has never happened to me. And I thank
the YouTube gods for for burying me in the algorithm

(38:24):
so deep that no one even gives a ship anymore.
But yeah, it's it's like it's it's like someone waving
an air sword in your direction, Like that's that's not
actually a threat at all, if it's just a pretend sword.

(38:45):
But if someone hicks open your door and then goes
anyone with a real sword there you go just kick
the doors open and and and told everyone where your
fucking addresses. Like that's that's that's the way worse. That's
that's the that's the beginning of the terrorism. It's it

(39:06):
is the terrorism.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, it's except if somebody says they're going to do something,
you don't always know that they don't know where you live.
That's the difficult part. Because of anonymity on the internet.
You never know. Somebody can say they are you know,
oh I'm from Australia, you know, but they're actually they
live in the same community that you do. Or conversely,

(39:28):
they could say that they're from, you know, the same
neighborhood you live in, and they're actually in Europe or
South America and you're not. So it's it's a threat.
Is a threat, even if even if it's comical. We
used to have a when I when I lived with
my parents, there was a drug dealer living next door

(39:48):
to us. It was a small time peddler of prescription pills,
pain killers and stuff and uh, and the guy used
to get his whole supply into donald's bag that the
person would come up and deliver it like you know,
they were bringing him his lunch. And then he would
turn a red light on on his porch and all

(40:10):
of a sudden, everybody and their uncle came to spend
five minutes at his house and get a can of coke. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The the the the can of coke, of course, had no
nothing in it but pills. But in any case, when

(40:32):
he moved into that house and we that already had
an established portrait studio on that property that did indoor
and outdoor portraits, my mom had the whole backyard designed
to with flowers and everything be a backdrop all around
the yard. And he decided that we weren't going to
do that anymore. Our business was over because his business was,

(40:56):
you know, not wanting to be photographed. And so one
day he came over and threatened to kill us all
in our sleep. And the thing about it is, this
guy barely came up to my tits. And I mean,
I'm a little bit tall, but I'm there's women, there's
a lot of women that are taller than me. Most

(41:17):
women aren't, but a lot are. And that's biological women,
not trans women. I mean, obviously there are lots of
trans women that are taller than me, but biological women
that there are biological women that are taller than I
was five 'ot nine and a half at the time,
and you know, so this guy barely came up to
my tits. He sort of had a Sam Kennison look.

(41:41):
About him ran around in a beret and everything, had
the long jacket and all that stuff kind of cultivated
the look and everything. But he had had throat cancer
and he had a stoma, and he had a vocalizer,
So he didn't, you know, I'm gonna come over to
your house middle of night kill you all in your
sleep like that might have been scary, especially if he

(42:04):
was a lot bigger than than us. I think my
mom was bigger than him, and she was tiny. But
from a guy that's not very big and who is
on death doorstep with cancer, going through chemo and all that,
speaking with a vocalizer, who has to look up at

(42:25):
you from underneath a beret because he's a caricature of
Sam Kennison, I'm coming to your house in the middle
of the night, ulating you on your sleep. Really, okay?
Did you say so? You know? But I still slept

(42:45):
out in the in the family room, blocking the back
door and for for two years because of that, just
in case somebody came in. Yeah, and with a with
a big stick. I carry a walking stick, that is

(43:05):
it's it's not hardwood, it's pine, but I do carry
a big stick.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I'm looking forward to when I'm old enough to carry
a cane. I've always wanted to carry a cane and
wear a cape. I want to wear a cape and
carry a cane that's fucking fast as ship. I'm going
to do that as soon as I'm able to. I'm
going to do it before i'm able to.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Before you get se nile, because you don't want to
forget and wear the cane and carry the cape. It's
not as effective.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
You can smother someone with a cape as.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
You can and well, or you just throw it over
their head and punch them a bunchet times when they
can't see it coming. But but yeah, I'm not violent.
Unless you scare me, then then maybe a little bit.
And and I did. I stayed. I didn't get very
much sleep for that whole two year period because every

(43:59):
time there and noise I woke up, it had a
light shining out into the backyard. So I wasn't I
wasn't scared, but I was still cautious, and I took precautions,
you know, And you do that right, because you don't know. Somebody,

(44:19):
even somebody on death stor step, even somebody that is
a caricature, could be dangerous. Even somebody that's short can
be very dangerous. Somebody that's weak can still be very dangerous. Right,
women have killed men twice or more of their size.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Well yeah, I mean all it takes is a weapon
or or the right amount of leverage or poison.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, there's a long history of women using poison. So
oh God Richard here says uh. Here in Texas, there
was a group of Muslims who decided to build themselves
a community center. And the property they chose to do
this was next to a pig farm. I bet they

(45:11):
hassled the pig farm, right, because pigs are considered dirty
animals of firemen. The throat really need.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
To use, we really need to use pigs to fight
back against Muslims. By the way, like people are reluctant
to do this because because it seems like like uh religious, Yeah,
it's it seems like uh using it seems like a

(45:43):
bad form to use their religion against them.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
But I believe that to it as a war crime.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Remember there was that guy that got sent to jail
because he put pork or like bacon on the mosque.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, and put the jail in the Middle East or
in regions around the area, in certain soldiers have figured
out that if you dip bullets in pigs blood and
shoot Muslims with those bullets, they won't go to go

(46:22):
to heaven because as soon as they come into contact
with pigs blood, no matter how devout you are, no
matter how pious you are, you're going straight to hell
because you've got pigs blug blood inside you. And I'm
not saying you should do this, but if you are
in the business of shooting Muslims with bullets, you might
as well dip them in pigs blood and let them

(46:44):
know that that's what you're going to do.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Because you don't even have to actually do it. You
just have to spread enough of a rumor that I
think you might have done it exactly right. And that's
that's something that has been done in the past. Actually,
I've I have known people who were in a desert
storm and desert shield who have said, oh, yeah, we

(47:08):
we did. We floated those rumors. We we did spread
the idea that this was happening in the hope of
intimidating them so that they would not actually, you know,
come our way and cause an actual firefight, because you know,

(47:28):
they don't want to get shot with those bullets. And
I don't know how effective it was, but that is
a thing, right And and again you know, a threat
doesn't have to be backed with any real intent to
be a threat. And if you do it in person,

(47:51):
like if I was standing next to you and I
said I'm going to come over there and kick your ass,
and if you believed me that, it's enough to catch
a charge.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
War like like so many given armies have these superstitions,
because so many of these armies are driven by superstitions
in the first place. And make no mistake, Muslims are
doing this to us. They're using our superstitions against us.
And our superstitions are guinescentric ones and and and and

(48:27):
this sort of thing. They and you know socialist that
they're using our leftism against us. They're using our g
centrism against us because they know that's that's our Achilles heel.
And it works. It shouldn't work. I mean, the Christians
shouldn't fall for this, because there is no animal that

(48:48):
is as religiously demonic to Christians as pigs and dogs
and shrimp are to use and Muslims like you can
you can dip your bullets in any animal's blood and
we're like, I will be like, no, it's it's just
it's just fucking blood. It's the bullets. We don't like,
just don't shoot us with the bullets. Yeah, but but

(49:09):
they figured out how much we fucking love women, and
they're using that ship against us. We can get over that.
There's nothing in the Christian ethos that instructs us to
be so fucking guynocentric. There's nothing in the liberal hyper
rational order that that should make us so susceptible to

(49:29):
any of these superstitions. We like to think of ourselves
as wholly unsuperstitious and completely rational, but we're not. We're
fucking that. We're the most guynocentric fucking ideology in the world.
But but we we fall for it anyway, and it's
it's very easy to get over this. We just need
to be like, no, women aren't better than men. Fuck you,

(49:50):
we got but yeah, we can't fucking do this. And
if we could get over that and use their superstitions
against them, this would be the easiest war to win.
But we can't do that because because we because we
so oh no, you have to respect their superstitions and
and we totally don't have any superstitions, but we still

(50:11):
have to respect them. The superstitions that we totally will
not admit exist. Like, it's you've got to navigate through
this fucking hypocrisy. And that's what's so difficult, because this
fucking hypocrisy is being held up by our mass media
at every fucking element. It's yes, you know, our mass

(50:36):
media and our police will fucking destroy us if we
say anything that diverges from from the gynocentric narrative and
from the like a for abic narrative. I'm just going
to say that to be as brief as possible, but yeah,
we we we've really we've we've handicapped ourselves in a

(50:57):
culture war and a religion war in which in which
our opponents have all the necessary handicaps and all we
have is unnecessarily self imposed handicaps. It's like, this should
be so easy, but we've made it so difficult.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
The worst part is that, you know, with and it's
not just with Islam, it's feminism is really bad about this.
They're they don't really follow that. So Stacy Carlton has
pointed this out in the chat. Actually, if if you're

(51:38):
Muslim and you are starving, You're permitted to eat anything
to stay alive, even if it's not a lot. If
you're shot by a bullet, somebody else put pork on
it doesn't it doesn't matter. You're not going to help
for that. And so the rules are in other words,
the rules depend on whether or not it's convenient to

(52:00):
follow them. Right, and with feminism it's even worse. You know,
the idea that violence against women is is the ultimate evil,
and anything that displeases women is violence only applies to
women who are feminist and pro feminist. If you're a

(52:23):
non feminist women, you don't count. So you know, when
I talked about I've I've had threat tooids. I haven't
had any any real serious online threats, but I've had
threat tooids. They didn't come from people in arguments over
you know, whether left wing or right wing was a

(52:45):
better direction to go, or either one being a decent direction,
you know, among men's rights movement supporters. Nope, they came
from feminists.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
The person who told me I should get raped so
I would know what it was like was a feminist.
That was an anti gamer gate feminist debater on on
Twitter that said that to me. The person that docksed
a bunch of us that that that we're involved with
A Voice for Men was a feminist associated with David Fotrell,

(53:28):
the guy that wrote that, that wrote the blog Man's
man boobs. That is now we.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, we never did hunt the mammoth. By the way,
we found her, and that's all we ever did.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
We did find her. She's one of the marchers at
uh in the Women's March, tearing around a disembodied hand.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Ye, but.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
I have an image this this chick. Her her whole
style was really bizarre. She kind of looked clownish and
she actually was carrying around a disbodied hand. I'm not
quite sure what that was for. But in any case,
and she had her tits out for equality or down

(54:22):
for equality, I guess, but way down. And you know,
my my meme that I created from that is at
the bottom or at the top. And why doesn't anyone
and at the bottom take me seriously? Because but in

(54:44):
any case, yeah, none of that, none of that ever
seems to come from the people that are accused of
being violent toward women or intimidating women online. Right when
I when I experienced that kind of stuff, when when
we and the men's rights experience, men's rights community experience

(55:07):
that kind of stuff. It's from feminists, including feminist men.
Some of the most aggressive behavior that I've received online, uh,
came from a feminist man who was trying to get
me banned. He got himself banned. Trying to get me
banned because he wasn't very bright. Is a total dipshit. Actually, like,

(55:33):
the closest thing I've had from a to a threat
coming from within the men's rights movement was Karen telling
me she was gonna take my arms off and beat
me with him if I made any more puns in
her presence, which is her thing that she loves me.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
I will take that as a serious threat, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I don't know about you, but no, no, no, no, no,
that is that is that is Karen's love language threatening
to him.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
I haven't lived until you've been threatened with death by Karen. Yes,
the original Karen.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
H But in any case, according to you and women,
because of the men's rights movement, there is less safety
for women and girls in digital spaces. And this is
what they have to say about it. All right, attitudes
and behaviors promoted in the manisphere are making online spaces

(56:32):
more hostile, for example, And then then they completely skip
over again those of us advocating for two process rights,
father's rights and stuff like that, and went after those
of us that were involved on the consumer side of
the Gamergate controversy. Gamergate was a harassment campaign in which

(56:59):
female gamers were targeted by oh right, male supremacists.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
My god, And you know what really pisses me off
about this is that, you know, there's I mean, of
course we all know that this is just the mo right,
but like so so female gamers or any less vulnerable

(57:24):
than male gamers in some sort of way or fashion.
How the hell do you make that? How do you
square that circle? It just doesn't fucking work. Like if
anyone is, uh, you know, at risk, you would think

(57:45):
that it's males because.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Aren't they terminally online?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Right, But no, it's I mean, consider consider not your shield,
hashtag not your shield. Those of us that were female,
are female that were involved in gamer Gate, that were
part of the men's rights movement, that got involved in

(58:10):
comics Gate, and to a degree the Sad Puppies incident
as well, Like those areus that sort of had her
fingers in a little bit of everything. A lot of
us are female, yeah, or we have disabilities or or
there were several There were many people involved with hashtag

(58:33):
not your Shield that were minorities, many people involved with
hashtag not your Shield that were alternative religions to the
the the religion that is usually accused of being male supremacists,
which is Christianity. So everything that that they've said about

(58:58):
gamer Gate being a harassment camp pain there was, to
my knowledge, the entire time the whole controversy was going on,
there was only one female gamer and comic book creator

(59:19):
that was actually targeted for removal from the community, that
was actually excluded and excommunicated and deliberately publicly attacked online
and kicked out of a convention in the process. Now

(59:44):
was Allison Yep.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Well, there were probably many more, but I by Jeradio
was reasonably large at the time. So we have the
capacity to kick up a stink about it. Yeah, you
never know how how many other such women have being
kicked out of these spaces, and they didn't have the
the the public online capacity to kick up such a stink.

(01:00:08):
That's like all the men who never had such a capacity,
and and they and they were kicked out without having
the ability to to kick up any such stink. It's
it's good that we were there at the time, ah
to be able to kick up that stink. And and

(01:00:29):
that didn't work either. We even took them to court,
and it takes several years, and even that didn't work,
and we.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Discovered that the Canadian court system was corrupt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Even that serves as a cautionary tale to let people
know that, yeah, they don't give a ship about women
any any more than they give a ship about men.
All they give a ship about is is is being
able to enforce that their propaganda and their ideology. And

(01:01:03):
they will use women to enforce that propaganda and that ideology,
and they will use men to do it as well,
and indiscriminately. Like they will say, they will say, believe
all women until a woman says what they don't want
them to say, and then they will say no, no, no,
don't don't believe those women either. In fact, we will
push back even harder on those women than we do

(01:01:26):
on the men. Well, not necessarily, I mean, they don't
need to push back as hard against the men because
they already have this, uh, this ideology in place to
push back on the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Men harder on the men, like for instance, you know,
I got I got addresses published, and Jack Barnes, they
published his kid's kindergarten address.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
There were a couple of other guys from a Voice
for Men that were sent beheading videos from from Muslim
terrorists organizations that have sent beheading videos out. I believe
one of them was a journalist, mister Pearl, and I

(01:02:16):
can't remember. The other one was another famous beheading video
that made it onto the Internet, and they were sent
those via email. They had found their email addresses, and
I told, you know, if we get our hands on you,
like this is the kind of thing that should happen

(01:02:37):
to you. I now, recently I was I was sent
stills from the Charlie Kirk murder over and over again
by a feminist woman. Oh jeez, but yeah, she spanned
from X Now. I think everybody watching that conversation reported

(01:03:02):
every single one of her posts. But in any case,
when when she sent them, she just sent them. It
was just you know, hey, look at this, hey, look
at this, Look at this gore. And I mean it
it's upsetting because you know, he's about the age of
my kids. But it's not like, I've seen a lot

(01:03:27):
of gore online. It's not you run into it in
the weirdest ways, especially when search engines were new, and
you'd look up some completely innocuous thing in not thinking
that it had any connection to gore, and somebody would
have some keyword on their website where they had gore

(01:03:47):
pictures or porn pictures or you know, some weird combination thereof.
And and in the middle of all your zucchini bread
recipes there's you know, something insanely gross that you never
really wanted to see. Thank goodness that that's changed to
a degree. But yeah, oh yeah, you've never.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Had a bread that sounds awful.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
I it's one of the youngest, yummiest things. You make
it with grated zucchini, and uh it. Most recipes are
are a sweet version, but you can make a savory
version that's really good too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Whatever it's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
You have to well, it's got walnuts in it, so
it depends on whether or not you're allergic to walnuts.
But you have to try it before you before you
knock it. But in any case, yeah, like all this,
it's it's the men always. People were always rougher on
the men when they when they do this kind of

(01:04:54):
thing like I got sent gore, Charlie Kirk got shot
in the neck and died. There's a significant difference there, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I can never unsee that that footage. I saw the
close up shot.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
You know, if you wanted to send a message that
that was it, just shut up and don't talk, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
But well the message was you can't let us win
because this is the kind of people we are. That's
what their message to us was. Yeah, you can't let
us win because this is what we do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yep. How how old? How old? How old were y'all?
This is a question I'll send out to most of
the honest, how old were y'all before you actually saw
footage of someone actually getting murdered of? Our parents of
the perhaps Gen X generation will have a different answer,

(01:05:54):
and boomers of our grandparents' generation will have a different answer.
We we were generally, we were generally spared this kind
of footage in this in this generation, it is afforded
to us to actually be able to to see the
live footage of of someone actually getting executed right there

(01:06:22):
and then instantaneously, and it's I would hope that this
would radicalize people in the right direction. I mean, my
hope is that we don't have to see this kind
of thing because it is. It's traumatizing in the same
weather it's traumatizing for children to be presented with Bambie's

(01:06:46):
mother getting executed off screen, and even that was traumatizing enough,
like is she Deadd's mother just where you can expect
that kind of reaction from a child, and Charlie Kirk's
death was the adult equivalent of that, like, oh ship,

(01:07:07):
I just I just watched I just watched a person
actually get But why haven't I seen this before? And
some of us have because occasionally you'll see it, you know,
and Ebam's World or some fucked up website like that.
But we're now at the point where, yeah, it is
perfectly possible to see someone actually get fucking murdered brutally

(01:07:33):
in real time, and it's I just I just hope
it doesn't desensitize everyone. But I think I think that's
probably gonna be what's happened. Well, We're just going to
see so many of us just get fucking executed right
there and then in real time, and we'll just get
used to it. It'll be just yeah, yeah, another fucking

(01:07:55):
right wing and got fucking insecuted. Yeah yeah, whatever. Yeah, God,
oh god, I think that's already happened.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
I think it's already happened, you know, because you know
what you see. I mean, listen, if you go outside
and touch grass, you know, notes, you will realize that,
you know, a lot of people just aren't in tune
to what's actually happening, you know. So they may not

(01:08:25):
have seen it, and they may not have heard about it.
They don't know who Charlie Kirk is. They don't understand
what the whole hullablue is about, you know. But for
those of us who do spend our time online, I
think a lot of us are dissensitized to it. And

(01:08:46):
that's why you see these people who are just gleeful,
you know, just just happy and very happy to share
their joy about the whole situation, you know, because they
have been desensitized to it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
It's it's it's it's it's not only become the normal,
it's become like, well, this is what we do, this
is what you should do. Why aren't you doing this?

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Yeah? Yeah, thank.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
God. We live in the universe where We didn't watch
Trump's head get exploded by that bullet because god damn.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
We were in other instances like and this is the
thing gen X has had sort of a weird trip
with us. We didn't see we didn't see a lot
of people getting murdered live. But there were a few

(01:09:51):
suicides that occurred live on the news that uh there
was no lead up to it where you you didn't
know this was gonna happen. There was an instance of
a news studio getting held hostage at gunpoint at one
point in time. It was another one. There was the
guy that jumped out of the airplane without a parachute,

(01:10:14):
didn't realize it untill he was he went to pull
the ripcord and there was wasn't one. So there there was.
We've seen a few things, and then the faces of
death videos were published. Uh when when a lot of
us were young, so you know a lot of us

(01:10:36):
saw stuff like that, and then you know, most of
us were adults by the time. The Wild Wild Reddit
days when it was you know, young and you know
our slash gore was it was a subreddit. I don't
know if it's still even allowed. Was another one that
was really fucked up space sticks our our slash spacetick

(01:11:00):
was really fucked up, and uh, you know there were
a few other things like that that you run into
a lot of that. Or in the early days of
the internet.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Yeah, I mean there there there were websites dedicated to
it's like rotten dot com, you know, and you could
go and you could see like decapitated people, you know,
and it's just again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Win is you know it was when we're talking about this,
the one thing that we're kind of dancing around is
almost exclusively it was men. Yeah, right, And if you
look at arc or if you look at now, it's
not all. For instance, Uh, there was a rich girl

(01:11:48):
that had an automotive accident that was particularly gruesome in
a in a sports car that her father had bought
her that the rounds I think the whole top of
her head was missing. It was really horrifying to look
at and realize what had happened and everything that that was.

(01:12:11):
But most of the time, when it was somebody else
doing something to the individual, or when it was a suicide,
or when somebody was being held at gunpoint or executed
or you know, held up whatever, there's men and the
thing that I think the reason that the desensitization happens

(01:12:32):
is because of male disposability. People compartmentalize stuff like that.
Kids don't have an easy time like I can still
very clearly in my head if I think about it
more than I should visualize the Bud Dwier suicide. But

(01:13:01):
because he's so much blood, but it was, you know, again,
something that you generally speaking, compartmentalized because we are so
used to mail the disposability already. We know that men
die in war, and we grew up with pictures of

(01:13:23):
World War two battles and deaths in Vietnam. Uh, the
one where the one soldier is actively executing a spy
from the other side in Vietnam, and you can see
the grimace on his face and and everything after he's

(01:13:46):
shot him. The emmolation video or not video photo, a
lot of those news photos.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
People see this, then they talk for a minute about
the horror of war, and then they go to McDonald's
for you know, for dinner, or they ghost go watch
a movie or you know, and forget about it because
it's men and men men are considered or treated as disposable.

(01:14:14):
But a woman gets upset because maybe people didn't like
the walking simulator that she created and didn't think that
it deserved the attention it got, and all hell breaks loose.
Yeah right, Oh, the misogyny, Oh the victimhood. There's this

(01:14:36):
whole consumer revolt against all of the false advertisement and
all of the advertisements disguised as news stories and fixed
contests and and so on. It's all about this poor
woman and her sex partners that she didn't actually sleep with.

(01:14:59):
But we're saying, but you know, slus shaming and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Mm hmm and stuff and all of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
And then there's then there's the Hollywood problem that we
see so many movies in which people get killed not
just by guns but by knives. And you know, in
in westerns, when someone gets shot in any part of
their body, they just fall off the roof and do
the Wilhelm scream and then they just die. And the

(01:15:29):
same thing happened with knives, Like if the hero stabs
a villain with a knife anywhere in the body, they
just die instantly. Like yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I don't want to engage in any kind of cancel
culture or anything that is going to be fair Hollywood,
But when someone gets sabbed with a knife anywhere in
the body except perhaps the direct middle of the fucking head,

(01:15:51):
and you can't do that because the skull presents, you know,
to stop this from happening. But when someone gets stabbed
with a knife, what happens, right, is they screw for
hours and hours and hours while they slowly bleed out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Yeah, unless you unless you get them in the femeral
artery or the brachial artery, and then it's minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
And even even then, it's nothing like what we see
in the movies where you can just stab a villain
anywhere in the body and they just instantly die. They
just go and then they just fucking keel over and die.
That's absolutely not what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
No, and in fact, quite frequently most when people do
die from stab wounds, it's not from the damage caused
by the knife. It's from sepsis caused by the bacteria
that was on the knife or on your skin exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
And people see this in just the movies, but in TV,
the same TV that is presenting this propaganda that you
should all murder Europeans. Right, we talk about this every
Tuesday show because this fucking ship happens like every fucking
week in Britain and in the American but especially in Britain.

(01:17:11):
Every day. This happens in Britain because people I've given
this romantic notion that you could just stab a bunch
of British people and they'll just die, and they don't.
They just assume this. You can just you don't have
to deal with the with the unbelievable amount of pain

(01:17:32):
and visit to that happens when you stab people. So
we'll just go I'm just gonna stab a bunch of
British people and presumably they'll just die. I could, I could.
I could just deal with these British people by just
stabbing them and I don't have to be faced with
their humanity or their mortality. And it's it'll be it'll
be fine. But it's not fine. It's unbelievably Oh I

(01:17:56):
can't sorry with.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Those perfectly legal knives.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Yes, uh, yeah, it's it's it's there's a lot of
misconceptions about how how violence works and and Hollywood perpetuates
all of them. But in reality and when you when
you really examine it, when you take off your rose

(01:18:22):
colored glasses and you examine it, you'll notice that women
are heavily protected. We are. And it's not to say
that violence never happens, right, I've experienced my fair share,
maybe a little more than that, mostly from other females, right. Uh.

(01:18:46):
But uh, what I've noticed is that when I do
experience any male perpetrated violence, when I have experienced male
perpetrated when I've gone someplace, aside from when I was
a kid, and kids areolent toward each other, it's when
I've gone someplace and associated with guys that normally other

(01:19:08):
guys would protect me from those guys. But if you
know you isolate yourself away from the guys that would
protect you and associate with the guys that don't have
that guynocentric tendency to avoid violence against women, then you
face the violence. And I think that happens in a

(01:19:29):
lot of cases. If you look at all of the
various types of criminal violence that occur in the world,
and feminists will tell you you know that ninety nine
percent of that is perpetrated by men. It's actually about
seventy nine percent, and that violence is one tenth of
one percent of the population committing that violence. The other

(01:19:53):
ninety nine point nine percent of men are nonviolent unless
they are themselves or provoked in some way. They don't.
They don't just run around engaging in violence for no reason. Right. So,
But but if you look at that, the overwhelming majority

(01:20:15):
of it is perpetrated against other men, not against women.
And usually it's not for uh, gendered reasons or power
and control. It's I want your car, I'm gonna take
it away from you. I might kill you in the process,
as long as I get the car, it's okay, right,

(01:20:37):
Or I want your wallet or your girlfriend and I'm
gonna get it from you and get her from you.
However it takes. I'm angry about you doing this or
that to me, I'm an a rival gang, you're on
my territory, or we're coming to take part of your territory. Right,

(01:20:59):
It's never, oh, look that dude, We're just going to
randomly be violent toward him. And feminists portray violence against
women as if it's it comes out of nowhere. Right.
Violence doesn't come out of nowhere. It comes out of
conditions and conflict, and they'll ignore both quite frequently. When

(01:21:23):
women face violence, it's not random, and it's it's not
and facilitating theft, and when they face violence. For men,
it's not usually as a as a territorial dispute or

(01:21:46):
I'm just angry with you or anything like that. It's
you know, conflict that the woman started, or she has
chosen to associate herself with men who are violent or crazy,
or or drug addicts, or have something else wrong with
them that leads them to be more likely to respond
violently to things that don't normally inspire people to behave violently.

(01:22:12):
And again, that happens when they isolate themselves from the
men in their lives who would do their best to
protect them from that violence. So this, this paragraph about
gamer Gate, the thing that pisses me off the most

(01:22:33):
about this. I think like everybody that tells this lie
about gamer Gate knows that it's a lie. They're aware,
They're fully aware, they were present in the moment. They
know damn well that it was not anything to do

(01:22:54):
with targeting women. That the controversy was. Gamers discovered that
a lot of reviews are fake. You read a review
of a game thinking, ah, this will tell me whether
the game's good or not, and actually it's because somebody
got paid or got favors to write a review, they

(01:23:19):
got a free game. They didn't disclose things that would
have made a difference in whether you had faith in
their review or not. And it started with that, and
then you know, find out that certain contests were rigged, right,
and not everything that was an AD was disclosed to

(01:23:45):
be an AD. Yeah, And as we went through that controversy,
we learned more and more that games journalism was mostly
just disguised advertising that we were being lied to. When

(01:24:06):
somebody gives you a recommendation and says you should try this,
you'll like it because I liked it and it was fun,
And actually that's you know, a lie, it's a betrayal,
especially if that's their profession and they've risen to prominence

(01:24:29):
with this, you know, claim of I tried it, so
that you know, you can sort the stuff you're going
to like from the stuff that's just prap. And it
where gender did come into it was that, you know,

(01:24:49):
the the anti slupt shaming narrative was used as an
excuse to shut down criticism of these other issues, the
collusion and the uh, the lies, the chicanery, the rigged
system and so on, and uh that that's typical, right,

(01:25:16):
I'm gonna use gonna use women as a shield, gonna
gonna say you can't do anything about this wrongdoing, or
we'll hold up this woman and say you're victimizing her.
And honestly, that's one of the reasons why I started
saying we're not ready for a female president. We were
not ready for female politicians. The women who are in

(01:25:38):
office right now, it's it's not legitimate that they're holding
office because as long as wrongdoers can say, well, you
can't criticize this wrongdoing, because we'll just say you hate women.
We'll just say that in criticizing this wrongdoing, you're actually

(01:25:58):
victimizing this woman. And you know who was was marginally
involved in one incident of it, one instance of it.
Therefore you can't criticize the entire phenomenon.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Remember all those times when everyone said, you can't criticize
our leader because he's a man, and if you criticize
what he's doing, then you just hate men. You remember
all the times that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Yeah, we never never times that had happened.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Yea of them, yes, all zero zero, zero thousand of them. Yes.
And and that's that's the problem. If Hillary Clinton, for instance,
had become president and she had gotten this involved in
sixteen Forever Wars New Ones. People would have like, she

(01:26:55):
could have involved us in multiple New Vietnams and what
could people say? Oh, you're just criticizing a woman. You
can't you can't handle her military strength because she's a woman.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
They doubled down on this with Kamala Harris because even
if white women were like, Kamala Harris can't do this, well,
you're only saying that because you're not a Jamaican Indians.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Yeah, uh, jamaking me crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
I'm more Jamaican than fucking Kamala Harris. Okay, fuck right off,
because you're not Indian, Well, no, I I am not,
but I actually do have Jamaican ancestors. My father's my
father's grandfather, so my great grandfather on my father's side

(01:27:54):
was actually Jamaican. So yes, I am more Jamaican than
fucking co.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
And that makes Kamala Harris better than you because she's
part Pajit. Yes she's not just part French like you are,
like no one gives a fuck about the French. But
she's part part of Jamaican and part Pajite, so she
covers all the bases whatever. But you know, if she

(01:28:20):
was president at this point, like, there would be no
defense against her going to thermonuclear with war with Russia
because they'd be like, well, not only not only are
you a misogynist, you're also a racist. You're two kinds
of racist because she's Indian and whatever the fuck else
she is, so nothing she does can ever be criticized.

(01:28:42):
And yeah, this is why we don't allow women, let
alone the women have protected races, to be the fucking president,
because because she will have this fucking force field around
everything she fucking does. Yeah, yeah, sorry, as long as
long as men don't have this force field, men should
be the leaders. If at any point men do have

(01:29:05):
this force field, then yeah, maybe we'll maybe we'll we'll,
we'll change this paradigm, but it doesn't look like it's
going to happen. Men. Men will never have this force
field of well, well, you're only saying that because I'm
a man, because you hate men. It's never gonna happen
as far as as far as can be conceivable in
even the distant future. And this is why it would

(01:29:29):
have been an absolute fucking disaster to have Kamala Harris
as a president, because everything everything you're you left, his
hate about about what the fucking US government is able
to do, it would have been multiplied by a fucking
hundred if Kamala Harris Harris was president, Like, why couldn't
you not see this? Well, the rhetorical question, but yeah,

(01:29:55):
fucking hell, you'll dodged a bullet. I know a lot
of you are like, well, fuck your as well, and yeah,
in many ways suck Trump as well. But the bullet,
the bullet you dodged. Think of the bullet you dodged, gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
Well, the real bullet that we dodged was Hillary Clinton,
because had she somehow made it to office, then it
would have just opened the floodgates for these female presidents too.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Then Kamala definitely would have fucking won, you know, but yes, no, absolutely,
it just would have been a ship show and men
would have had to lose their lives because of all
the endless wars that Hillary would have gotten us into.

(01:30:52):
And then you know, after her, then Kamala, you know,
because they just don't. They don't operate off of logic,
They operate off of feelings.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Yep, and uh, I think what gamer Gate really was
to a lot of of gamers, was their their first
lesson in it's not just politics, in all aspects of life.
If somebody wants to step on your toes, if somebody
wants to uh tread over your boundaries, violate your at

(01:31:32):
least your right to know, right, your right to informed consent.
Because that's really what what gamer gate boiled down to
was one group of gamers finding out that their consent
was not informed when they were making their purchases. Uh,

(01:31:54):
they were, they were told they were being informed, uh,
and then they were they were being lied to, right,
and they they found out in the the process of
the whole argument that took place over the course of
a few years, that the shield for that is, uh, well,
you're just saying that because the liar was was a woman,

(01:32:18):
or you're just saying that because the liars were exposed
by sex with a woman. You're just saying that because
the liar is black. You're just saying that because the
liar is handicapped. You're just saying that because you know
you you would allow these people to step all over
you if they were white. Ah, you know, straight able

(01:32:41):
bodied males with who identified as males. You know, with
with some money in the bank like that. That's that's
the rest of us kind of had that already. A
lot of us encountered it in the abortion controversy. Oh,

(01:33:04):
you're just if men, If men got pregnant, abortion would
be a sacrament. No. No, If men could get pregnant,
every time the birth rate fell below what politicians I
thought was reasonable, they would start another have a baby
for the furer program. That's what would happen. If men
would get drafted to become pregnant. If men could get

(01:33:28):
pregnant when the time you know, the time frame was
during some period when the birth rate was lower than
politicians liked, that's what would happen, right, But men can't
get pregnant, and so since women are the ones, we

(01:33:49):
can't even criticize the fact that right now three in
ten pregnancies, nearly a third of pregnancies in the world,
and an elective abortion. Right now, women have made being

(01:34:09):
aborted the leading cause of human death in the world.
We can't criticize that as a too much, too much abortion,
too much killing babies. We can't say, what the fuck,
why are you doing this when you have you know,
umptying gazillion forms of birth control that can keep you

(01:34:31):
from getting pregnant, especially when you can use several of
them in combination if you want to, and it costs
a lot less than an abortion. Now, we can't do
that because slut shaming women. Right, nobody says slut shaming
when we're talking about men. By the way, if a

(01:34:52):
guy sleeps around, he's taking advantage of all those women.
He's he's a cat, he's a player, he's he's a predator. Right,
he's disloyal, and he's a threat to women because sti's
but if a woman does it, you can't say a word, right.

(01:35:15):
She could spread herpes across half her community. And how
dare you get upset with her for it? She's just
exercising her right to freedom of association and free enjoyment
of her sexuality.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
He's living her best lie.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
Yeah, by by killing the life that's inside of Jesus Christ. I.
I just hate this.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
They're just.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
So irresponsible and it's everybody else's fault and everybody else's
problem to deal with. And you know this is.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
It's just healthcare. It's just we're just caring for the
health of this woman, never mind the feetus that's growing
inside of our body. No, no, that's just it's a parasite.
And this is how they treat children, and we wonder
why why we have.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
This generation of young people who don't really value life.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Yep, yep, yeah, very much so. I mean, hell, you know,
they had the three and ten chance of not making
it into the world when they were conceived, right, so
so yeah. When it comes to the Gamorgate campaign, journalists

(01:36:47):
are never honest about it. They don't talk about the
actual controversy. They don't talk about what the consumer revolt
was actually about, you know, they only talk about the
shield that was used to try to keep the consumers
from bucking the system and suggesting that perhaps, you know,

(01:37:13):
lying to us as a shitty way of doing business, and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Of course that should be that should be your litmus
test when it comes to Grockipedia. By the way, compare
the Grockipedia article on gaming Gate versus the Wikipedia article.
If you find if you fancy looking at the Wikipedia
article as to what the fuck gamer Gate was, I
would recommend you do not because it's pure propaganda and

(01:37:42):
this is why Grockopedia needs to exist. But I will
reserve judgment until I see what we look we look
at what Grock has to say about it, you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Know, we looked at that, and an after show we
might have to go over it in the main show.
It's actually not a bad article. They Grock did a
good job which actually have been pretty pretty pleased for
the most part. The thing that I don't like is
that after after Grock was nerved for noticing some things

(01:38:19):
and then drawing conclusions that were maybe not the best
conclusions after noticing those things. Uh that that that that
has led to uh Grock treating a lot of feminist
sources as authoritative. But it's still more accurate on gamer

(01:38:41):
Gate than Wikipedia, and it's it's also Wikipedia. The Wikipedia
article on gamer Gate, you could tell that nothing's been
added to it for about seven or eight years. It's
it's ancient. And they they had one on us too.

(01:39:01):
There's a they got a stub I think on Honeybadgers
and groc actually has a better entry in Grockipedia there
as well. Oh gosh, murder of Growth. Yeah, it was
typhoid Mary living her best life. A lot of people
don't actually know who Typhoid Mary was or what she

(01:39:23):
actually did. And this is an interesting typhoid people. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
she her but her her story is a story of
female entitlement. Okay, So back in her day, if a
woman was uneducated, you know, there weren't a whole lot

(01:39:43):
of different types of jobs and an uneducated woman could
get that were very lucrative. But one that was was
cooking for families, wealthy families. Right. If you didn't do that,
you know, you could do laundry, you could work in
a textile mill, you could There's a lot of other
stuff you could do. But want a wealthy family hire

(01:40:05):
a cook back then, and I'm assuming the same thing
is true today. If a wealthy family hires a cook,
they pay quite a bit. And so typhoid is. If
you get salmonella poisoning, it can live on in your
intestines where you're immune to the effect of it. It

(01:40:28):
doesn't make you sick anymore. But if you're not careful
washing your hands after you go to the bathroom, you
can get the bacteria on anything that you touch. And
if you're a cook, you can get it in people's food,
and then they get a stronger form of salmonella poisoning

(01:40:51):
and it can be deadly for children. That's typhoid. So
this this cook had that condition. And it was at
a time when, like especially in the lower economic classes,
people really didn't understand the importance of hand washing. And

(01:41:14):
initially it took a little bit. She worked for a
family and their kids all died, and nobody understood why
they weren't poisoned. They got typhoid fever and they died.
And then she moved on to another house and worked

(01:41:36):
for that family, and those kids got typhoid fever and
they died. Pretty soon they traced it back to her.
They figured out that she was the one that was infected,
and so the health department came to her and said,
you need to very carefully. You could still work as
a cook. You just had to very carefully wash your

(01:41:59):
hands and keep them wash like if you go to
the bathroom, gotta wash your hands. You gotta scrubble really good.
She chased them out of her kitchen with a meat fork.
She was very offended and pissed off. Didn't like being
blamed for these deaths and took the accusations as an
attack on her. So, you know, she continued and infected

(01:42:26):
another family, and the state came after her and and
basically said, all right, that's it. You cannot work as
a cook anymore. You are no longer allowed to work
as a cook because you will not wash your hands
and you are killing people. So, after being forbade to
work as a cook, she went into working in laundry.
Wasn't luc lucrative enough for her, so she sort of

(01:42:50):
went behind the back of the state and tried again
working as a cook. And because she refused to stop
doing the job that she wanted, but she also would
not do the very simple task that would have protected

(01:43:11):
the people that she was cooking for, she she got
put into an institution. The news media wrote articles about her.
She was essentially she was incarcerated in a in an
asylum because or not an asylum, but I can't think

(01:43:34):
of what they used. They used to have these like
retreats that you would go to that were health retreats.
She was incarcerated there though she wasn't allowed to leave,
and they kept her incarcerated for years. And she got
the nickname typhoid Mary because she was spreading typhoid, just
not to hundreds of people, to individual families, and she

(01:43:57):
was killing children. And it was a combination of ignorance
and entitlement. Like if you're told to do something for
the safety of the people that you're providing some degree
of care for, whether it's cooking, cleaning, med passing, you know,
whatever you do it, you don't get mad. I have

(01:44:24):
I'm medpass certified, so I can if I'm providing care
for one of my sanitarium that's right, Richard Pierre, if
I'm or sanatoriums, which was I think what Murder of
Crow said. But like if I am giving meds to somebody,

(01:44:48):
if I take care of somebody and they have a
regular prescription to take, I have a set of steps
that I have to take, and it includes going through
three times, three separate times, and comparing the information on
the packet of medicine that I'm giving and the information

(01:45:12):
in the medical administration record that I'm documenting the medpass
on and ensuring that you know, I have the correct
recipient for the medication, that I'm giving the right dose,
that I'm giving it at the right time, that I'm
giving it by the correct route. Because there are pills,

(01:45:32):
there are shots, there are eye drops, there are nose drops,
there's stuff that goes on your skin, and so on,
and in the right method. Sometimes people can't swallow pills
in pills have to be crushed, or they have to
be given a liquid, you know, form, and things like that.

(01:45:56):
Some people can only swallow pills if they're inputting. Some
people can swallow the crushed version if they're in putting
or apple sauce or some particular thing. So various things
details about this. They have to be very carefully followed.
And if you mess that up, say you have somebody

(01:46:18):
that has four or five different prescriptions, which is not
unusual in in UH caregiving for people with disabilities, because
often if somebody has one catastrophic genetic health problem they
have those genes don't just affect one thing, they'll affect
other things as well. And so maybe they have a

(01:46:41):
catastrophic heart problem, but they also have as a result
a need to take something like I don't know, blood thinners,
or maybe they have chronic pain and they're on a
pain medicine, or uh, you know, maybe they have a
mental health condition and they're on a controlled substance or
that some of those substances. If you make a mistake

(01:47:06):
and you don't notice that one of the seven o'clocks
is am and one is PM. And you double dose somebody,
you can kill them with the wrong med depending on
you know what you're giving them. And so if you're
not careful or if you give if you give a

(01:47:28):
heart medicine to somebody that doesn't need it, or the
wrong medication to somebody with a heart condition and so on,
you can kill somebody. And there have been medairrors historically
that have caused antient deaths, and you know, it's it's

(01:47:48):
a very serious issue. You don't have to be a
nurse to do that task. You have to be willing
to follow procedure. You can be completely uneducated, like you
could be just a high school graduate. You do have
to be a high school graduate in Ohio and do it,

(01:48:11):
but you have to be willing to meticulously follow procedure.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
I remember my mom had diverticulitis and it ruptured and
so I had to be there to administer she had
she had a pick line. Oh yeah, so I had
to be the one to put the ivy into her

(01:48:38):
into her right and like I was so paranoid because
I know, you know, when if there's an air bubble
in that needle, when you injected into her, I could
have killed my mother.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Nobody have EpiPens now, yeah, well, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
Well, I don't know if they don't necessarily work for everything.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
I I I frequently find myself taking up the responsibility
of giving you your appen because of.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
Your thing you inject me.

Speaker 4 (01:49:19):
But I don't think it's technically an epi pen.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
But it's a similar thing, isn't it. You just push
it and it and it does the thing, so you
don't have to worry about the abbubbles, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Well, and there's there's other medications like really common one,
really super common one that that can kill you if
you use it wrong is insulin mm hmm. Insulin can
cause a sugar crash if you overdose.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
And and then there's the other thing, right, A person
can take a medication for two or three years and
then develop an allergic reaction to it, And some medications,
the allergic reaction can be so bad that it can
be deadly. You could go into anaphylactic shock and die.
So like there's there's if you if you have an

(01:50:07):
allergy to it, and and one of the ones that's
more famous for that is penicillin, but there are other
medications like I can't take opiate painkillers. They don't make me.
I'm I'm not gonna go into anaphylactic shock from them.
But I do have an anaphylactic reaction. I will get

(01:50:27):
hives and I get a rash. If I eat a
poppy seed muffin. I think I'm allergic to the whole
freaking plant, which sucks because they're really pretty. I I
don't get near them, but they are pretty. But in
any case, Yeah, so it's it's one of those things
you have to be super careful, right yeah. Uh, And

(01:50:49):
and you don't have to be a high class of education, uh,
you know, recipient to have the oblo gation to be
that careful. There are a lot of jobs like that.
That's just one thing, right, That's one that's kind of
common among women. Men have a shitload of jobs like

(01:51:12):
that that you come out of high school and you
get some training maybe on the job, or you go
to a trade school instead of a college if it's
more complicated thing like welding or carpentry. But a lot
of a lot of low end jobs that are just

(01:51:34):
dirty or dangerous, and stuff like that can be extremely
deadly when you know, like it's you don't get a chance,
you don't get a second chance. There's this, there's if
you look at funny signs online, there's one that that
pops up this machine. Don't touch this machine. It will

(01:51:59):
kill you and it will hurt the whole time. Like
it's it's not it's paraphrasing, but basically, don't touch this.
It'll kill you and it'll hurt the entire time. You're dying,
and you know it's it's it's in an area where
maybe it's a machine that will shock you or burn
you or something along those lines. But a lot of

(01:52:20):
jobs that men do have stuff like that that if
you're not careful and you don't follow procedure exactly as
you are told, you can lose a limb. You can
you can get killed, you can get My uncle Giles

(01:52:42):
had his arm caught in a rubber press when he
worked at a rubber processing plant and it took it
all the way up to the elbow, crushed it to
about half an inch thick, and he actually had a
threaten to kill the guy that he was working with
to get him to break out of his stupor shock

(01:53:04):
of seeing it happen and turn off the machine and
then they had to roll it back out and you know,
he lost the use of that arm and it's safety
procedures were put into place afterward to prevent that kind
of accident, but if somebody doesn't follow those procedures, that

(01:53:29):
accident could happen to somebody else again. I worked at
a factory that made cookies and potato chips and stuff
like that. Everything was on a conveyor belt and part
of my job was to just make sure that the
the items were the way they were supposed to be
before they went into the packaging, and that involved watching

(01:53:52):
a shitload of it at once, going passed me on
a conveyor belt and being quick at grabbing the ones
that were wrong and removing them and crashing them. Basically,
there was another lady that was doing the job, and
during the time that I worked there, I kept my

(01:54:16):
I had an engagement ring and I kept it in
my wallet. I didn't have any jewelry on at all
when I was at work, and I wore my clothes
tight when I was at work because you don't want
to get something caught on the conveyor belt. It's really
not a good thing. And they had told us no rings,

(01:54:38):
no dangly necklaces, no dangly bracelets, you know. Like, so
my hair was always up in a bun. I made
sure nothing could get caught in the conveyor belt, and
I got made fun of for it until one of
my colleagues got her wedding band caught on the belt

(01:55:01):
and lost her ring finger. Wow, like it came off.
So you know, these are when you get these kind
of instructions. But typhoid Mary felt exempt she didn't She
didn't think that she should be told what to do.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
You know, you ain't gotta sell me Twise.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
Let's let us let us compare Typhoon Mary with Ignos Themowis.
Now that's a name you may have heard because Karen's
talked about it a lot. A lot of us have
talked about a lot. Tyfod Mary was a woman who
did not understand jem ferry or why you should wash

(01:55:47):
your hands. Ignos Samowis was a Hungarian surgeon who populated
the idea that surgeons should wash their hands. They didn't
know about germ theory at the time, but ignore Simolwise.
It started the idea that you know, when when surgeons

(01:56:09):
don't wash their hands, it seems to increase all of
these infected infections. And he was like, what if right,
surgeons washed their hands as as vigorous, as vigorously as
they could with every chemical agent available to us at
the time. It was like, maybe we wouldn't kill so

(01:56:31):
many people in these hospitals. Maybe hospitals wouldn't be places
of death but places of the preservation of life if
surgeons washed their hands. And he died penniless and his
funeral was unattended by anyone because he was he was
ridiculed for his entire lifetime like nobody, nobody cared. Everyone

(01:56:55):
thought he was a kook who was talking shit. But
it was It wasn't until many, many years after his
death that people thought, oh shit, ignore simbel Weiss was
onto something. And ever since then everyone's been like, oh, yeah, yeah,
he was right. He was entirely right about all this ship.
And you know, and for all the for all the

(01:57:17):
concessions that we gave Typhoid Mary about they totally wasn't
her fault. And you know, to some degree, I guess
it wasn't because because not only did they not know
anything about germ theory, but they didn't know anything about
well ignore Civilwise taught us. But you know, but she
was given all of these concessions, and ignore Simlwise was

(01:57:38):
given none of these concessions. He was. He was just
pushed back at every possible opportunity, including an up to
and after his death. And that's and and that's what
I mean about how many concessions women are given, women
are given even though they're just nurses, and how many

(01:57:58):
concessions met are denied even though they are top surgeons.
And you know, because I studied history in GCS, and
that was from age fourteen to sixteen. There were several
modules in that course, and one of them was the
history of medicine. They taught us all sorts of things about,

(01:58:19):
you know, Hippocrates and the theory of the for humors
up to you know, they taught us about Joseph Leicster,
the inventor, the inventor of antiseptics, and Edward Jenner, the
inventor of vaccines. That's historic for another day. But they
never taught us about Igno Smerwise. And I can't assume

(01:58:44):
that's because his because people still to this day are
kind of like they're they're trying not to accept he
was so right to this day, maybe it was because
he was Hungarian, maybe it was because he was male,
but I probably not. But they did it was. It

(01:59:09):
wasn't until fucking fifteen years later when I had to
when I when I had to listen to to my
own peers in this in this esoteric part of the Internet,
before I discovered what ignorre ignore symbol BCE taught us

(01:59:29):
mm hmm, And And that kind of goes to show
you like Joseph Lister and Edward Jenna were paraded as
as heroes of of medical breakthroughs, whereas to this day
ignore simbleweis is sort of still pushed into the background

(01:59:51):
because so many scientists at the time were like, no,
he was wrong, he was completely wrong. You can't you
can't do it. And to this day they still can't
get over how fucking wrong they are, which sort of
goes to show you that, you know, scientists are just
as parochial and egocentric as religious people, Like they can't

(02:00:14):
admit that they were wrong, but centuries they can't fucking
admit they were wrong because that they are married to
whatever cultural ideas they had at the time, which included
the term yeah again, female nurses can do whatever the
fuck they like, but male surgeons no, no, no no

(02:00:35):
no no no no no no no. If they if
there's any pushback against them, then we then we should
keep pushing back against this. Even Edward Jenner, who to
be fair, did have a lot of idea of right
ideas about vaccines. I mean, they're called vaccines because they're
named after you know, cowpox, and he fixed smallpox with

(02:00:58):
with cowpox, and that's why vaccines are called vaccines because
vash is the French word for power, and that's this
shit happened.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
And like anybody remembers the line, FESSI lavas from I
Python and the Holy crail get the care right.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
Yeah, scientists can accept that that people are right as
long as there's not too much pushback against it. But
if there is too much pushback against it, then you
get the likes of typhoid Mary, and you get the
likes of Ignoscemowise, Like, we we have to give women

(02:01:41):
the benefit of the doubt, but we don't have to
give men the benefit of the doubt. And yet we
we should have learned our lesson and I'm not just
talking about fifty years ago with the fucking solidimite thing.
I'm talking about fucking two hundred years ago, with the
likes of all the of all the male surgeons and
all the male doctors had exactly the right idea. But

(02:02:02):
we still can't accept that they had the right idea.
And in light of recent episodes, I have to wonder
how many hundreds of years it's going to take before
before the general public can get on board with the
idea that recent events were mistakes. And you know what
I'm talking about, but I can't what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (02:02:26):
I'm not sure which ones are you talking about, Mike particular.

Speaker 2 (02:02:31):
Nothing in particular. I'm not saying anything, but.

Speaker 1 (02:02:34):
You're right, and it is a lot of it is vanity,
which you know, again, this goes right back to what
we're reading. Women women are more tolerated in their vanity
than men. So you see more instances where women women's

(02:02:55):
egos are allowed to dictate that individuals who are being
tread upon, you know, tread upon, or that their rights
are being trampled, that that they just have to put
up with it because the people trampling them are women.

(02:03:15):
I really that line in the Advocate where where God
I can hear the actor's name. Fuck Pacino says, says,
as the devil says, vanity is my favorite sin. I
do believe that that is true. I think pretty much
every other sin you know, it's It's just like the

(02:03:43):
the part of the Bible where Jesus tells Nicodemus that
all of the law and all of the prophets hang
on the two commandments about love, which love is the
opposite of of vanity. You cannot have love for someone
other than yourself, whether it's God, whether it's another human being,
without humility. Humility is a precursor, it's a prerequisite to love,

(02:04:10):
because you have to be the other person before yourself.
But vanity is the opposite. And even though people think
hate is the opposite of love, vanity is the true
opposite of love. And narcissism is the epitome of vanity.

(02:04:33):
And I think women we get society does not inoculate
us against narcissism the way that it does. Functional men,
boys that grow up in in good circumstances, at least
good enough that they mature the way a human being

(02:04:54):
should mature. They are they they are inoculated against u
against that narcissism and against that level of vanity to
where they define themselves based on how they benefit their community,
and girls, rather than being inoculated against that, are actually

(02:05:16):
taught to at least in part, define themselves on how
their community benefits them and how their community venerates them,
and to feel entitled to have a good self image

(02:05:39):
and to be fed basically something that will give them
that good self image, so to have their narcissism fed,
and as a result, you end up with that level
of entitlement. Like typhoid Mary couldn't be humble about being
told to wash your hands because her pride as a woman,

(02:06:04):
you know, she couldn't be told she was dirty, Like
she couldn't be told that she had, uh, you know,
some sort of flaw that she needed to wash off
in order to cook for people and be safe. It
would it was an insult to her femininity. And I
think to a degree people who are highly educated develop

(02:06:28):
that same kind of vanity. But it's they can't be
told there's something they don't already know. Yeah, they can't
be told they're wrong about something, and it's it's a
feminine behavior. Yeah, she couldn't be told not to work
as a cook night motorcyclist. That is correct. She couldn't
be told to get a different job. You are not

(02:06:50):
qualified to do this job if your ego is going
to prevent you from following instructions. You know, men, men
get told that all the time. You can't do this
job because your ego prevents you from following instruction. You
won't follow safety procedures, you won't wear your ppe. All right,
that's it. You've been written up this many times. You're fired.

(02:07:13):
But yeah, and similarly, we'll get into the paragraph more
about violence and against women and girls next week. We're
going to look at the fact that they lie about
connections between mass shooters and the men's rights movement. But

(02:07:35):
this is one of those instances. Before we get into
this next week, I want to point out this week
again just to remind you, a very small percentage of
the violence in the world targets women and girls, and
feminists will single out that percentage and a very small

(02:07:59):
percentage of that primarily targets women and girls if you
define it the way feminists define it. For example, if
you have Jack and Jill that they're fighting over their
pail of water whatever, and Jill shoves Jack, and Jack

(02:08:25):
puts his hands up to keep Jill from hurting him,
and Jill bruises herself on the thick bones in Jack's wrists.
Then feminists define Jack as the abuser because he hurt Jill.

(02:08:46):
Jill was engaging in preempt a self defense because she
knew he was going to do that to her, right,
So that's how feminists are able to claim that domestic
violence primarily targets women and girls. Meanwhile, seventy percent of

(02:09:08):
victims of domestic violence who don't use violence, even in
self defense are men. Only thirty percent of nonviolent victims
of domestic violence are women. And when when there is

(02:09:29):
two way violence, that's associated with more frequent perpetration among women,
but not more frequent perpetration among men, Which means even
when the violence is two way, women are initiating more
and they're doing it and not getting retaliation every single time,

(02:09:50):
They're not getting self defense every single time from the guy,
indicating that when a guy finally does defend himself, more
often than not, it's because he's been pushed to the
point where he has no other choice or he cannot
like it's a snap thing. And of course the other statistic,

(02:10:11):
the one that feminists like to focus on, is that
when there is one way or two way violence that
affects female, she's more likely to be injured than violence
affecting a male in heterosexual relationships. Well, if you take
somebody who is bigger and stronger, faster, and more experienced

(02:10:35):
at using violence, and you remove their ability to pull
their punches, you put them in a situation where the
violence is completely out of control it's happening, and in
the heat of a moment where they snap, where they're
trying to defend themselves against somebody trying to stab them
or otherwise do them serious harm. They don't have the

(02:11:00):
control available to them at that point to pull their
punches to the degree that you know, coddling their attacker
can happen, And of course that means their attacker is
going to get hurt more. Now that doesn't mean that
there aren't any There are still those, you know, the
smallest percentage of domestic violence is the category where the

(02:11:24):
guy perpetrates and the woman doesn't fight back, right, and
women get to get hurt in that circumstance as well,
But it is the smallest category, and so feminists will
treat that as the main thing. And then the other

(02:11:44):
thing that they'll do is they'll single out how many
women who are killed by homicide are killed by their
their family members, and they'll refer to all of that
as partner violence, even if it's their kids, their siblings,
their parents, you know, still aren'ner violence. About worldwide, about

(02:12:08):
forty four percent of homicides in that category affect men.
It's male victims, so it's actually pretty close to half
and half, But something like sixty percent of female victims
of homicide are killed by family violence and not stranger violence,

(02:12:33):
whereas most male victims are killed by stranger violence. It's
just that there are so many more male victims that
you know that that that's the case, that that most
of them are killed by stranger violence. Strangers don't attack
women as frequently. Feministsly use this to imply that women

(02:12:55):
are the bigger victims of homicide and family violence, but
the reality is women are still the bigger perpetrators. And
when it comes to violence in general, women are mostly protected,
and it's only under very limited circumstances where women remain

(02:13:23):
in violent environments with a violent partner or violent family
members that they actually end up getting injured or killed.
So it's something to think about. But in any case,

(02:13:43):
I'm going to go to our super chats and then
if you guys have anything else to add, speak now
or forever. Hold your peace till next week.

Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
But I'll wait till I see what this super tests
have to say.

Speaker 1 (02:14:01):
We have two. We have a super chow from Meredith
g who gave us five dollars and said, HBr talk
three seventy eight honey for the Badgers. Thanks for the
thought provoking conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
How dare you you can't say things like that?

Speaker 1 (02:14:15):
We have provoked all the thoughts.

Speaker 2 (02:14:18):
Yeah, thank you, Meredith, love you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:22):
And we have howl. I think h A h O
A U L. That's O is first. It's hard for
me with gray on blue text. Man, that's like it
sticks out from my computer. It looks three d uh.

(02:14:43):
I think that howl. Yeah. Howel fourteen O six gave
us five GBP and said, will you guys ever go
back to talking about these suffragettes like before? I guess
we will eventually get back to that. There's there are
several things I want to talk about it's just that
right now, with all of the USA budgeting stuff taking

(02:15:05):
place and the controversy over US relationships with the UN
and NATO, I wanted to point out these things. And
we've been going over the financial stuff too, So there
we go. But we will eventually get back because I

(02:15:27):
still have more of that timeline to go over and
I still want to publish the timeline, probably make a
video with the timeline as well, because it is a
lot of work went into that timeline. I won't call
it my masterpiece, but I feel like it has a
lot of information all in one place, and I think

(02:15:48):
it would be a good resource for people in the
Men's Rise movement trying to explain about female voting rights
and why they were never earned the way that men's were.
But uh, but yeah, so we will get back to
it eventually. Uh and uh, you know, we'll we'll see

(02:16:10):
if people really understand It's it's funny. I've actually discussed
the issue like outside of the men's rights movement with
people and they do the la la la. I can't
hear you mm hm. Actually had a bunch of guys
on a on another stream shout me down because I

(02:16:33):
said there are value valid reasons for questioning women's right
to vote. No, there's not. You can't say that, my god,
yes fucking is. And don't get so emotional about it.

Speaker 3 (02:16:49):
Yeah, I mean, just I mean, open your mind to
the suggestion. Just maybe you might need to, you know,
just take a step back and and think about it
for a second, think about the arguments that we present.

Speaker 1 (02:17:06):
Yeah, you know. Well, and the thing is that the
arguments aren't valid. You should be able to argue against
them successfully correct, correct, But no, that's not they want to.
They want to.

Speaker 3 (02:17:19):
Argue, argue and be right, and it's it's sorry, but
should just not write on this. There are plenty of
valid reasons why women should not vote. And yes, I
am a woman and I am saying this, and I
absolutely agree.

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
I would gladly.

Speaker 3 (02:17:41):
Give up my vote if it means that Cardi B
doesn't get to vote.

Speaker 2 (02:17:49):
I don't want to either, Like I don't think you
men should have the vote either, if that means Hassan
Piker doesn't have to vote. But the vote was always
a mistake.

Speaker 1 (02:18:00):
Yeah, for me, the primary reason why why men shouldn't
vote is because government shouldn't exist. Yes, But the primary
reason why women shouldn't vote is not the same, although
like that's government shouldn't exist, but it does. Right, So men,

(02:18:21):
men vote, Men vote because if they don't, they don't
get to say in how things are run. And just
a recap for people who weren't around for our older discussions,
like if you go back through our live streams, you
can find us discussion discussing the suffragettes, the history of suffrage,
which is not just women's suffrage but all suffrage in

(02:18:46):
English common law, which is the governing sort of the
framework on which law in general is based in the
United States, Canada. Yeah, all the all the nations that
started out as English colonies. Uh that that in their

(02:19:07):
current iteration started out as English colonies. And the fact
that most people don't realize where voting came from in
English common law. Really when I realized people didn't understand that,

(02:19:28):
I still get these arguments too from from feminists. Men
didn't always vote, Men didn't alise all have the voting
rights that that that they have today. Feminists will tell
me that the old men always had the vote. No, no, no,
they didn't. Yeah, if you go back to uh, the

(02:19:49):
the early days after the collapse of of Roman control
over over Europe, over Western Europe. When when you had
England being run by a king and barons, and it

(02:20:10):
was they just sort of continued the landlord system. Voting
didn't exist and in the way that it does now.
What you had was the king being financially supported by
the barons. So if he wanted a war, the barons,

(02:20:31):
the land barons, the lords, you know, they would they
would give him money and they would send men largely
skimmed out of the feared, which was like combination militia
cop system. And that was you know, an early system

(02:20:58):
of kind of taxation in an early system of uh conscription. Right,
and there was no lottery though, like you're you're among
the serfs. The lord or the baron would simply say,
I want these people to go.

Speaker 2 (02:21:20):
The magna carta, the magnaicarta basically didn't involve the peasants.
It involved the king and barons. Right. It's an important
part of our culture, but it doesn't translate into the
modern age, Like we don't need the Magna carta either.
We just need the notion that if people know that
they're being invaded, they should be able to conglomerate in defense.

(02:21:45):
Of that invasion, if only we had that notion today,
which alas we don't, because you know, if we if
we come together against the invasion that is happening, we're
to do that because regardless of the magna carts of
the government could just tell us, no, we're going to
send you to jail if if you conglomerate against the invaders.

Speaker 1 (02:22:10):
Right, that's kind of what they're doing now. But during
that time you had King John, like the the King
John from you know, Robinhood's the Mythology, decided to pull
a bunch of shit essentially, and the barons were pissed
off and they went to war against him, and the

(02:22:33):
result was the first iteration of the Magna Carta, which
he promptly began violating, and there was the that was
the first Barons War. The second Barons War went, if
I remember, right, against his son, and we talked about
this during multiple episodes. And during the second time there

(02:22:57):
was one baron who there was a system of conference
between the king and his barons called Common Council, where
they basically would have a meeting that was kind of
like a board meeting with the king acting similar to

(02:23:18):
being you know, the CEO of the country and the
barons going, well, we don't we don't want you to
do this or that, and we're not going to financially
back it, or we're not going we don't want to
send you men for this. And essentially John had ceded
Land to France and he then wanted to go to

(02:23:41):
war with France to get it back, and the barons
were like, no, that's bullshit, We're not this is you know,
he was funding this war and it was getting more
and more expensive and they were not seeing a return
on their investments and people were dying and people were angry,
and no, we're not doing this anymore. And that was
basically the conflict that the first barons were and involved,

(02:24:07):
and the second one was fairly similar in that the
king stopped listening to his financial backers, and his financial
backers were like, all right, fuck you, we're going back
to war with you again. But in the middle of
that a parliamentary meeting was had, and when England formed

(02:24:32):
its parliamentary system it was based on that initial meeting.
So the parliamentary system when that came about, it came out.

Speaker 2 (02:24:44):
Of that.

Speaker 1 (02:24:47):
Objection to wrongful taxation without any consultation. Basically, no taxation
without representation, and it was the the land barons that
were objecting to being taxed for these forever wars without

(02:25:09):
being being able to have us say and you know, hey,
we don't want you to do this, we don't want
to fund this. And then you know, the parliamentary system
involved sending representatives to essentially the same thing as Common Council,
but it incorporated representatives of commoners in addition to representatives

(02:25:36):
of the elite. Because these these barons, the landlords, they
tax their commoners and then they paid taxes to the king.
So it would be like if you paid your state
taxes and then the states paid a federal tax, but
you didn't pay a federal tax. So you end up

(02:26:00):
with a voting system coming out of that, and at
that time less than three percent of the adult population
could vote, and it included women. You had to meet
certain criteria. They came up with what they called it's

(02:26:20):
at forty shilling franchise or the fourteenth I can't remember
the exact number, but it was essentially you had to
have enough of an income that you were a taxpayer,
So you had to be a taxpayer to vote. And
you voted for a representative for your community, and the

(02:26:43):
barons would go. So you had the lords, you had
a House of Lords, and then you had the House
of Commons, and that's where that came from. And during
that whole time, it was the breadwinner, the potential draftees,
the men who are willing to fight for it that

(02:27:07):
they got a right to vote, and a small percentage
of women who controlled enough property that they were also taxpayers.
And it you know, as we went through we saw
that it took eight hundred years for men's voting rights
to get from less than three percent of the population

(02:27:31):
gets to vote to the entire male population gets to vote.
And then women were like, we want it too.

Speaker 2 (02:27:42):
Yeah, it was. It was never as simple as no kings. Ye,
for anyone who's still rustling around that particular notion, it was,
you know, now, kings are fine, Just leave us the
fuck alone to the best of your abilities, leave us
the fuck alone. We're okay with. Having kings is a

(02:28:04):
hell of a lode better than having politicians. Not that
we knew what politicians were at the time. If only
we did, we would have, you know, we would have
signified that at the time. But you know, the French
Revolution is what happens when you go so far as
no kings, where we will put all of our kings

(02:28:25):
and potential kings in the fucking guillotine, and and we
end up with the a personal state of affairs that
we have today. This is the difference between the Magna
Carta and the French Revolution and and and the American Constitution.
Like it's somewhere in between these these these points of reverence.

(02:28:49):
Is the right thing to is the right thing to do?
We we don't quite know what it was. I mean, yeah,
the French nobility went too far. That's how they offer debate,
and that's why the French Revolution happened. And this was
what set the ships up of the royalty of all

(02:29:10):
the other European nations, and that's largely why that's certainly
what inspired the American Revolution. And good on you. You
went in the right direction. But replacing kings with politicians
has caused all kinds of other problems. And you know,

(02:29:31):
I'm not here to tell you what the right thing
was to do. I don't know whether the right thing
was to do. But like I said, it's somewhere in
between the Magna Carta and the French Revolution and the
American Constitution. But you should probably move away from the
French Revolution because that was a mistake. The Magna Carta
wasn't a mistake, but it wasn't a fool proof document,

(02:29:56):
nor is the American Constitution of full proof document. Has
been as corrupted as the Magna Carta has been, almost
as corrupted as the French Revolution has been. But yeah,
I look forward to the future where we can figure
out the happy medium between between between these various revolutions.

(02:30:19):
Good luck everyone, Yeah, if there.

Speaker 1 (02:30:22):
Is one to be had. Yeah, And that's the that's
the difficult choice, right is trying to figure out can
we believe the idea that some humans should have been
in a position of authority over all of the other
humans in their nation, that they're so superior that other

(02:30:47):
people should have to do what they say? Can we
can we have that and not have those people become corrupt?
Like and it's it's a very difficult prospect. And I
I don't I don't know. I don't know of any

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government that ever existed that never became corrupt at at
some point, So, you know, it's one of those like
I've I've developed a philosophy with medication. If I'm not
going to die without it, I don't want it in
my body. Right, If I'm not going to get so

(02:31:31):
sick that I can't do stuff without it, I don't
want it in my body. Like I'll take allergy pills
because I have to if I want to breathe and
stay in Ohio and not move to Arizona, which I
might be able to not take allergy pills if I
live in Arizona. Maybe it's it's just a maybe though.

(02:31:54):
But but like when I get to to you know,
I have a lot of chronic pain from the stuff
that is going on with my body. I don't take
anything for it. I don't usually even take aspirin or
ibuprofen unless I'm in real trouble because I don't want

(02:32:19):
to make my body process that. So essentially there has
to be a really good, solid reason for it, and
that way I'm not damaging my kidneys and my liver
by just throwing drugs at it willy nilly. And my
reason for that is because I was a victim of

(02:32:41):
something called polypharmacy, which is they give you too much medication,
too many different having a lot of medication. Different medication
that you're taking is a condition called polypharmacy. But when
it's not all necessary, then it's an advert condition and
it still uses the same name. And they had me

(02:33:04):
on six different steroids, they had me on anahist means,
they had me on decongestions, they had me on all
kinds of crap. I became linked the little Lady that
swallowed the fly right, And I think we do that
with government, where we start every time a problem comes along,
instead of people banding together to figure out what can

(02:33:27):
we do about this, how can we empower individuals to
solve this problem, they want government to step in and
take over and solve it for them. And it's become
the magic pill that people take for every little thing,
whether it's needed or not. And it's quite it's quite

(02:33:55):
lazy on one end. At one end, it's very much
like modern medicine has got this thing of well, instead
of working on yourself, going to therapy, we're just going
to give you this pill. This is going to get
rid of your anxiety. You know, instead of doing the
exercise and dietary changes you need to lose weight, We're

(02:34:17):
going to give you a drug to make the pounds
come off right and and so on. No, we're not
going to bring your blood pressure down by getting you
to lose the weight. We're going to give you statins
and blah blah blah, just pile it on pilot on right.
Government is the same way. Instead of getting going through

(02:34:39):
the growing pains of starting out at minimum wage work
and getting income increases and rising in the ranks of
you know, the company and so on, you're you're going
to get food stamps and welfare even though you're not
disabled right where it's not just for disabled people. Now
Medicaid's not just for disabled people either, you know. And

(02:35:02):
suddenly we end up with a large percentage of the
population relying on government handouts as part of their income.
And when we have a government shut down like we
have right now, then those people feel the pain because
they've discovered that they've given the government the power to
pull the rug out from under them at any moment

(02:35:25):
without warning. And that's one of the reasons why I'm
an end cap. If you offload your responsibility for yourself
to an entity like the government, you give that entity
the power to pull the rug out from underneath you.

(02:35:46):
At any time and create a situation that you can't overcome.
You give that entity the power to control what you do,
where you go, how you think, what you say right.
The more dependent you are, the less you can defend
your boundaries. And that's very dangerous, and unfortunately most women

(02:36:13):
don't realize that, and so they vote like shit. They
vote for communists, and because communists promise them, you know,
every day is going to be a Christmas Morning of
Gibbs for girls. And they vote for that because they're stupid.

(02:36:35):
And that's no better reason than because they're stupid. They
don't think about it ahead of time. They don't think
about the fact that if the government is giving you everything,
and you're reliant on the government giving you everything, that
gives politicians the power to take it all away from
you if you don't do what they say.

Speaker 2 (02:36:55):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:36:57):
And unfortunately, that is the entire reason, in my opinion,
that politicians wanted to give women voting rights in the
first place, because they knew that women seeking security and
seeking safety nets would give them more power. And they have.

(02:37:17):
But with that, we are done with super chat, super child.

Speaker 2 (02:37:22):
Have we fix the world yet? Please tell me we
fixed the world?

Speaker 1 (02:37:24):
Have we no, it's still tilted on its axis.

Speaker 2 (02:37:29):
Go ahead and brace us for not fixing the world yet.
Dear audience, I'm so very sorry that we haven't done it.

Speaker 1 (02:37:38):
Richard Bierre wants to know how difficult If I know
how difficult it would be to adapt to Arizona time.
I just want to point out I'm a night worker
who sometimes works swing shift and frequently works double shifts.
There's not I don't get jet lag when I travel overseas.
I can adapt. Thanks everybody, Thanks for listening. Thanks to

(02:38:04):
Mike and Lauren for chatting about all this stuff with me.
Thanks to Brian for making sure that we could have
the vertical chat and everything and everybody else that works
in the background and make HBr talk happen. And good
night all.

Speaker 3 (02:38:19):
I love you, and good night,