The best laid plans of UN Women | HBR Talk 377 - Honey Badger Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our society, our whole world population teaches women and girls
that the absolute worst thing that can ever happen to
you in your whole life, worse than death, is being raped.
And I'm here to tell you it does suck. It
is awful. It is a horrible experience. It's humiliating and
painful and can be scary as how depending on what

(00:24):
the details are. Like somebody is violent toward you or
uses a weapon. That's terrifying, and you know, I'm not
afraid to admit that it's it's terrifying enough. They can
be paralyzing, right because you're afraid you might die, not
just because you're afraid they're going to force intimacy on you.

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Because you're afraid you might die.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I say mildprectorized to not before it feels goods amount
of fifteen seconds. Guidance is internal well eleven ten nine
ignition sequence six five.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
For two chuculate. This is Honey Badger Radio Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
With Hello and welcome to HBr Talk three seventy seven
The Best Laid Plans of You and Women. I'm your host,
Hannah Wallen here with Mike Stevenson, Doctor Randomercam. The personification
of perceptivity, and we will be looking at you and
women again. Obviously they're they're article on how to counter

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the Manisphere's toxic influence. We started this last week. We
may skip over back and forth between some other pages
here because they are doing the same thing in this
article that they did in their previous article, where they're
referencing other things. One thing is self reference that they
wrote it, and then they're referencing it because of course

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they do that because they're feminists. But uh yeah, h
We're still looking into their complaints against father's rights activists
and such, because that's who they really are against, is
men who might want to raise their own children instead
of being managed by the world government. But as always,

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the Badger, there is, if I remember correctly, a way
to tip Mike directly as well. So there should be
a reward for cleverness, and there it is.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
But in the meantime, please do I'm broke. I'm not clever,
but I am broke, so you are clever.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
That's why. That's why I asked you to be on
the show as often as you could. Literally what.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
I kind of invited myself to the show and I've
been here ever since.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
But I did. I did say, come, come as much
as you want on the show, and there is a
reason because, like I said, I think your perspective is
particularly important, especially we're talking about a lot of the
stuff that the world government is imposing. And you know,
this is not a government organization that the people elected.

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This is a government organization that previous administrators of nations
that had all had their own war machines threw together
to work in collaboration with each other, and now it
is acting as an authority over those nations. So it's
supposed to be more like the student Council of Nations,

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and it's behaving as though it is the king of
a world kingdom. And you and Women isn't even a
governmental part of it. It's just an organization that gives
recommendations to the UN on behalf of feminists in women's name,
without the consent of most of us who are women.

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But Europe has been listening to to them unfortunately, and
you know, like our listeners should well know from previous shows.
You know, the UK, Mike's country has been utterly destroyed
by it. It's not the only one. But I don't
I don't actually have anybody from France or Spain to
tell me about what's going on there. So we definitely

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need our our UK representative as much as you can
say anyway, because like I know, if you say the
wrong thing there, you get arrested and and it's not
officer opie. So but in any case, speaking of this
imposition on the world, the the You and Women group

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does not like us. They do not like the men's
rights movement. They do. They do not like them, Sam,
I am. They would not could not in a vote
with a goat and all that. They're very upset with
us because hey, Lauren, Lauren, I am here sorry that
you know. It's it's been a month. Every single one
of us has had a bunch of crap go wrong,

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so I kind of figured there may be something.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Honey Badgers are always late. Therefore, the latest honey Badger
is the honey badgerist honey badger.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
There we go, there we ow. Sorry, guys, that came
out of nowhere. And I'm not even having a bad
allergy day. When I do, I don't cough at you guys,
But yeah, you and women hate their guts and they
especially hate the female in oris. But they're going to
only talk about the men, because the way that they
hate on us is to pretend that we don't exist.
So earlier last week we read the first couple of

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paragraphs here about gender inequality, and they're they're peddling their
other article and mental health impacts on boys and men,
and you know, note that they were only talking about
things that in cells say, and they're only talking about

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them as if they have no basis for saying them,
so right out of the shoot. You know, one of
men's biggest complaints is you have to be a ten
in order to get a woman's attention, because all women
think they're tens. Right, All women think that they're the
hottest thing on the planet, the coolest thing since slice spread,

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and therefore they must they must go for the top,
to the top five percent of men.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Is this a good place to add a hashtag all?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Because I know so many wells I know hashtag not all.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
That's because I happen to associate with a lot of
women who are crazy. But yes, although than you would
expect to rate themselves as tens. This is the impression
you can get if you listen to the whatever podcast
a lot, But that the whatever podcast is not representative
of an alarmingly large amount of women.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yes, I talk about other women like this and then
I think of myself as different. But to be honest,
I married the handsomest guy in the world, so I
also and definitely am not a ten, especially not now.
But but yeah, that's not representative of all women. But
all women do have a degree of they're taught growing

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up shop around, they're taught growing up to be to
have a little bit of hypergamy going on. And that
was one that I had to fight because you know,
my parents did the same thing in terms of, you know, well,
you should marry an earner so that you know you're supported.
But at the same time, you know, my dad came

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from home where his mom didn't have that situation. She
was a breadwinner of their family all of her life
until she got lots of cancer and passed away. And
so he also insisted that I be capable of supporting
myself and a family because what if, right, what if

(09:00):
lightning strikes, what if car accidents happened, what if I
made bad choices in partner? But I did marry the
handsomest guy in the world, and you know, I I
don't have to carry the lotto by myself like.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
She did, because I am guy in the world.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh no, no, no, I would have to agree. My husband
is the handsomest guy in the world. You guys just
don't know it atout.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Being satirical, I don't think I'm at ten. I think
I'm a zero because I refuse to play this game.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Guy underestimates his looks.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
I swear no, I'm not underestimating. I'm just refusing to
play this game. And so I z my default. That's
what everyone should do, in my opinion, refuse to play
this fucking game.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Well.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
And and to that end, I would have to say that, yes, yes,
not all, but it's the exception that proves the rule.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And in situation, the fact that the exception is the
exception really does. Yeah, and women are always looking for
a dude that earns a lot of money. They're always
looking for a dude that's better looking than they are, right,
and you know, they're always they're always looking for a
dude that's that's bigger and stronger than they are, taller
than they are. Let's see what other rules did I break? Well, Okay,

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so the one thing that they don't always look for
as a dude that's smarter than they are, and you know,
as handsome as my husband is, that still is the
thing that really really flipped my switch with that he's
smarter than I am, and I quite enjoy that quite
a bit. But in any case, all that aside this
thing that we we we looked at last week started

(10:38):
talking about this last week. The only thing that they
mentioned here is looks maxing communities and how they subject
men's photos to brutal commentary. Women engage in the behavior,
worked their asses off to accommodate that behavior, and then
it's men's fault if that has a negative impact on men,

(10:59):
that is you. And women reject guys if they, you know,
have have things like a unibrow or a chubby face,
or some women will even reject dad bods, which I
don't understand because dad bods are cuddling, but women will
reject the dumbest things. I only want a guy with
blue eyes, where he has to be six feet taller over,

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even though I'm only five foot and a half inch.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
You can't say that's definitely racist because there's a certain race.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
There are actually dark skinned people with blue eyes. It's
very rare.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
It's very like, so you can't say it.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, I've known girls that will date guys with blue eyes,
which is I think is dumb because I think brown
eyes are pretty attractive too, and hazel, you know, like
it's window to to what the person is thinking. I
don't necessarily buy into the whole window of the soul thing,
but they are the window to what the person is thinking,
and it's kind of cool to be a to see that.

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But I don't think there's a more attractive eye color.
But in any case, there's Women will do all kinds
of stuff like that and then complain when guys are
hyper critical about their own looks, you know, as if
guys did this to themselves. At the same time, the

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female run, female driven beauty industry that has to change
every little thing about women at the cost of like
between one hundred and fifty and three hundred bucks a
month on supplies that somehow is men's fault. Those beauty

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standards that women push on each other are somehow men's fault,
and that is in a nutshell, you know, like they're
they're essentially their first statement on how to get rid
of us is to ignore us and only talk about
things that they think they can get people to hate.

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All these men are tearing each other down and in
particular things they can get women to hate, because other
guys are going to be like, yeah, so, but when
you talk to women about this, they're going to get upset.
They're going to think these guys are in trouble. They're
going to think these guys are are you know, the
the cause of all male suicide and so on. Now

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I'm going to consider the fact that these guys are
doing this because they're already experiencing social rejection and they're
trying to figure out how to stop that from happening. Nope,
they're just bad. How dare they try to improve their looks?
How dare they talk about what needs improvement or what
they think needs improvement. And at the same time, if

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you suggest that maybe women shouldn't have such brutal standards
in the first place, and then guys wouldn't subject each
other to that type of criticism, here's what you need
to change because this is what women like, then you're
a misogynist. So the upshot then is what women should
have the highest of high standards. But how dare men

(14:14):
try to meet those standards. What the fuck is wrong
with those guys? That makes sense, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
So even when we tried to talk to normies about this,
this happened over that one Christmas when we tried to
have that X space.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
With anyone who who joined it, and we were encountered.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
By several men, much like when Brian Nelson tried to
talk to these normies on this stream. And we keep
encountering this like, look, if women have high standards, you
should just meet those standards. You can't just blame women
for having these high standards. You just need to meet
these high standards. And I'm like, okay, yep, I see
where you're driving at because you're trying not to fall

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down to the floor, but I'm like, you're trying to
rise up to the ceiling. So I have to ask
what would the world look like if women's standards were
too high? And this is a conditional hypothesis, and that
makes it very that blows the minds of there. I say,
low IQ people who can't entertain a conditional hypothesis, But

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what would the world look like if women's standards were
too high?

Speaker 3 (15:21):
And I just have to ask this to.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
The average army, like imagine just blue sky, thinking for
a moment, what if women's standards were too high?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
How would that present as a series.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Of of applicable descriptions in the world. What would that
look like? And people have trouble describing this without describing
the world as it is right now because obvious exceptions
like the handful of non crazy women that I talked to,
and obvious exceptions of the clinically narcissistic women out there.

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But the average woman is not the same average woman
that they were one hundred years ago, let alone a
thousand years ago. Like women's standards have risen as Heemanism
has ritten, as romantic chivalry has risen, and not just
in the last hundred years, but in the last thousand years.
So like, what would it look like if women's standards

(16:23):
were too high? Answer me that normies, because it kind
of looks like what we have right now. It kind
of looks like how on tinder, like women rate eighty
percent of men is below average.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
It would look something like that, wouldn't it.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
And we should be looking as to how we bring
that average, bring that number down rather than up, because
if we keep going the way we're going, then ten
years from now, it'll be ninety percent of men who
are below average looks, and then ninety five and before
you know it, literally every man will be below average.
How is that possible? How is eighty percent? It should

(17:01):
be fifty. That's how averages work. It should be fifty
men are below average. But we're already at eighty. So
why why is it so crazy to conceive of the
idea that one hundred percent of men will be considered
below average in the luxe department by the average woman.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
And that's what we're arriving at.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
And we're practically at that point of this case, because
it's not just about a man's looks, is it. It's
about how much fucking boller he's got. And you know,
they would twist their brains into saying that even the
ugliest amount of the world, as long as he's a billionaire,
is a ten, and even the best looking men in
the world, as long as he's not a violent criminal

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is a zero.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, because then you have to deal with that weird
fetish that far too.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Many women have that they want violently criminal men who
are capable of serial killing anyone.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
But you, milady, yeah, gets me, because they'll compete for
the top twenty percent, but then they want to go
fuck the guy with tear drop tattoos on his face,
gang gang symbols and all kinds of stuff on his
arms and what have you. And it's like, yeah, but

(18:17):
that the top twenty percent guy doesn't want you if
you've been sleeping with that other dude. Yeah, And it's
not because he thinks you're immoral. It might be. It
might be a little bit because he thinks you're untrustworthy,
but more it's because it's unhygienic. It's because you might

(18:38):
have picked up something from that other guy and that's gross, right,
And and it's it's not misogynistic to recognize that there
are STIs that have to population statistically, is a risk
to anybody that might be sleeping around, and that you're

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more likely to run into the part of the population
that's a risk, a transmission risk when you start engaging
with people who maybe engage with IV drug users and
prostitutes and people who uh, maybe have high body count.
Even if you don't. Even if your body count before
the guy is one, before you're your partner, you still

(19:29):
if your if your body count is one jailbird or
one you know, gang member right one bottom of the barrel,
guy whose lifestyle is dangerous and includes dangerous women. Then
you've just subjected your future partner to contact with that

(19:51):
dangerous guy and whatever dangerous women he's been with. This
is this is stuff that should be elementary. We were
learning this in high school. Gen X was learning this
in high school in the nineteen eighties. You know the
idea that when you sleep with a person, you're essentially hygienically,

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you're sleeping with every person that that person has ever
been with, because that's how that works in terms of
STI transmission, especially with STIs that take a while to manifest,
like HIV can take like three years to show up
in your system. It might be in their hiding for
three years, and it might be contagious and you wouldn't

(20:35):
know you had it, and it might not show up
on a blood test and it still can be passed
to your partner. People don't always tell you that they
have something like a herpes or HPV. People don't even
always know that they have HPV. Usually they know if
they have herpes that apparently is painful or something. But yeah,

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people don't always tell you that they have something like that.
And similarly, there are other things happening now antibiotic resistant bacteria,
for instance, that are scary as fuck. And I think
I've described this a couple of times on this show
and other shows, But there are bacteria that have created
an enzyme in their evolution to try to survive the

(21:24):
antibiotics that we throw at them. They've created an enzyme
that they fire off at the molecules of whatever chemicals
we put in our bodies to kill them, and it
chemically reacts with our antibiotics and changes them to some
other non antibiotic substance and water. So it's a hydrolyzing

(21:48):
enzyme and it makes it harmless to the bacteria. So
it's useless to you because the bacteria that's infected you
doesn't die. Then it continues to do whatever it's doing
that you're having symptoms from. End are you know, scientists
have come up with a two pronged attack in a
drug that goes after first the enzyme and then the bacteria.

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But there are now some bacteria that are immune to
those and this is this is a hot war. This
is an actual hot war with enzyme missiles, and you know,
smart bombs basically that we're firing off at the bacteria.
And in the context of that, one of those devastatingly

(22:34):
dangerous and completely resistant to all different types of antibiotics
bacteria is an E. Coli bacteria lives in your lower
intestine and that's present in hospitals and it's it's all replaced.
There is a super yeast infection that is living in

(22:57):
things like if you if you get they had to
it to people with COVID, you get to put in
your lungs so you can breathe intubated. If you have
to get intubated, some of those they're having difficulty cleaning
the yeast infections off of them. And the stuff that
usually kills yeast is not killing this yeast. So you know,

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the ultimate death of humanity might not be aliens or
nuclear bombs, or starvation, climate change, none of that. It
might be a massive humanity wide freaking yeast infection. But
among the rest of that is a is a antibiotic
resistant form of gone rhea, and I guess there's now

(23:40):
an antibiotic resistance. I said the other day would be
really scary if this happened with syphilis. Then somebody messaged
me it already has. There's an antibiotic resistant form of syphilis.
You should all read up on what syphilis does. It's scary.
And so this this idea that dudes who are like, no,

(24:01):
I don't want to be with somebody who has slept
around a lot, are somehow being misogynistic. No, that's self defense, Okay,
that's being wise. Women should have the same attitude both
about themselves. I don't want to be the person that
slept around and also toward you, because they have a

(24:25):
risk as well. And the smart thing for a woman is,
you know, just the same thing as for a man,
try not to try to wait till you're married, try
not to screw around with everything that moves. Like the
Sexual Revolution said, you can and wait till you're married
and then stay within the marriage, and you're much more

(24:47):
likely to avoid being a casualty of the war between
medical science and bacteria. Yeah, the ched king says, al
Capone got syphilis, and it is it's a horrible death.
It's not it's a flesh eating bacteria. But it's not
just a flesh eating bacteria. It also makes you suffer

(25:09):
from insanity, senile dementia, it's like it fucks up everything.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
That's what happened to Henry the eighth and to so
many things.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
It's kind of exploded in his coffin, or is some case,
exploded in his coffin because it was bloated from the syphilis.
That's one of the things syphilis can you. It's a
bloody thing. We essentially killed it.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Do we care it?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
We found a wall unfortunately, yes, unfortunately, Yes, antibiotics treated
it for a long time. But but like I said,
there's a there's an antibiotic resistant version of it now.
So this is like, like I said, this is people
should be very careful who they have sex with. People
should be very careful about their enemacy. Even if you

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don't care about the oxytocin factor, which changes the way
you think about the person when you sleep with them,
even one it's more addictive than heroin. It affects you
in ways that you don't consciously take note of, and
it makes you vulnerable, which if you're in a loving, trusting,

(26:14):
mutually supportive relationship with your partner, that vulnerability is okay,
But if you're with a stranger, it's not. And when
you rip that apart, you know by going off to
be with somebody else, and especially if you catch feelings
and the other person doesn't, there's psychological damage that takes

(26:35):
place that you don't necessarily take conscious note of either,
but you experience it and it changes you and it
affects your future relationships, whether you're male or female. So
one of the things I strongly disagree with a lot
of the game theory promoting pickup artist types and red

(26:58):
pill dudes, the idea that it's okay for women or
not okay for women to sleep around, but it is
okay for men to sleep around. The thing they're wrong
about is no, it's not okay for men to sleep
around either. It's not okay for anybody to sleep around.
It's a very bad idea and nobody should do it.
And this is something that you know, if you're a parent,

(27:20):
the smartest thing you can do for your kids, besides
straight talk about future finances, is be very blunt with
them about this information and get them to understand that
it's not just fun to have sex. It's also high risk, vulnerable,
and creates an attachment and so besides the risk of pregnancy,

(27:45):
they're putting their bodies at risk. And they're putting their
minds at risk. And so you know, it's different when,
like I said, when you're in a loving, trusting relationship
and somebody wants to take care of you and you
want to take care of them, that's a whole different story,
and the risk isn't the same, and that bond is
just makes your marriage stronger, right, But when you're not who,

(28:08):
you end up hurting each other. And it's one of
the reasons why there's often so much bitterness between partners
that you know, they break up when they're young. And
all these women that tell you about all their toxic
ex boyfriends, I'll bet that guy wasn't toxic while they
were sleeping with him. It was only after that stopped

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that all of a sudden everything about him was wrong.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
And that's why for all this talk we hear about
how it's societally considered okay for men to sleep around
but not for women to sleep around. Well, that's largely
based on the men who are in charge of things,
because men have always been in charge of things for
political reasons, however, and it's largely because, especially in modern times,

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that sleeping with a woman or any amount of women
is considered a status symbol for men, because women's sexuality
is considered pure and innocent and a gift something to
be thankful for, whereas men's sexuality is toxic and corrupt

(29:18):
and it should be something that should be avoided. So yeah,
these societal rules we have in the advent of romantic
chivalry otherwise known as missonry, has guided.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Women in the right direction and men in the wrong direction.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Whether you're a prince or a pauper, or a princess
or a well pauper, there are rules that should apply
in both cases, like yeah, no, yeah, you should have
as few sexual partners as possible, regardless of the antibiotics
that we have these days that can that can save

(29:56):
or at least mitigate the possibilities of of hideous STD
based diseases and deaths, Like, it's still generally good advice
for men and women to have as few sexual partners
as possible, no matter what's going on politically or who's
in charge, or who is afforded the opportunity to have
multiple sexual partners. And yes, maybe there will always be

(30:21):
a bit of a skewing in that direction, because after all,
men are attracted to female virgins and women are not
attracted to male virgins. And I don't know how we
change that. That seems to be an evolved thing. And
that's to get into that for fucking hours as to
how that happened or how we deal with that. But

(30:41):
we can deal with this discrepancy in both cases by saying,
men and women, please, for the love of God or
whatever you believe in, have as few sexual partners as possible,
because I mean, it's good advice in general, with or without,
but in the existence of SGDs, especially the ones to

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which we have not yet found a prevention.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, just fucking don't be whores, and yes I include men.
Don't be horse either. Don't you like this?

Speaker 4 (31:14):
That's it's one of these fucking traditions we have for
a fucking good reason.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
It just needs to be applied to men as well.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
And but yeah, the fact that it hasn't been applied
to women in the modern day. Yeah, fact, men and
women differitely in different ways, but they're all awful.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
You do not want to have to for gonerhea. I
will tell you right now. You do not want to
have to be tested for goner rhea, because I know
how that test is done. If you look up how
that test is done, it will make you it will
make you heart just to read it.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
So yeah, yes, it's not not a pleasant experience for anyone.
But men have a longer urethra than women do, so
it's more unpleasant for men. Oh here, So here we

(32:16):
have this situation where, you know, I think part of
the reason that in cell communities exist now and they
are so big is this normalization of risky, indiscriminate sexual behavior.
And you know, once upon a time that wasn't normal.

(32:37):
It wasn't normal for unmarried people to engage in rampant, wanton, indiscriminate,
widespread sexual behavior. And part of it was because they
didn't have the effective birth control that we have today,
but a lot of it was because we didn't have antibiotics.

(33:00):
We didn't have vaccines. Heck, even when I was in
high school, there was no HPV vaccine when I was
a teenager. When I was a teenager, aides was a
death sentence. They didn't have a treatment for it that
that could preserve your life for years and years, and
people who got it died from pneumonia. And if they
didn't die from pneumonia, they went through a similar similar

(33:24):
death in some ways to syphilis. You've got lesions on
your brain and became senile. So it was not a
time where you know, this shit wasn't scary. It was scary,
and that was that was the end of the twentieth century.
Prior to that, like historically throughout earlier history, you know,
you had people being much much more careful. Ah, yes, Benjamin,

(33:47):
I do see you in Oh. Yeah, you wanted me
to talk about herpes. Herpes it that's that's another thing.
There is some indication that there are cancers related to herpes.
There are definitely cancers related to HPV, which is a
Herpes family virus. It's in the herpes chicken pox, cold sores,

(34:10):
and HPV, and there's some other viruses that are in
that family. And it's my personal suspicion that if one
of them, which we know two of them at least
have some relationship to cancer, that probably all of them do,
all of the Herpes family, and so I think those

(34:31):
are dangerous viruses. HPV can be deadly without you know,
you're not gonna you're not gonna die of genital warts,
but you might die of throat cancer, or you might
might die of a genital cancer, and you know, if
you're female. The scary thing about it is when you
get it on your cervix, you don't have any symptoms,

(34:54):
and it'll start out as a little tumor like the
size of the lead of a pencil, and then it'll
grow to maybe the size of a sweet pea. That's
you know, and you can get it. You don't have
to have HPV to get get that. I had that
in and I don't have HPV, but it's significantly more

(35:16):
likely if you have HPV, and I think most people
who do get it have HPV. But in any case,
it will suddenly, you know, go from that little teeny
weeny py sized tumor without warning to just taking over

(35:36):
your whole reproductive system rapidly, and it can go from
zero to stage four so fast that you don't even
get tested for it before it's too late to get
treated for it, and you end up dying from it.
When I had that little tumor, the only reason we
found it was because I was pregnant, so, you know,

(36:00):
in for prenatal care and they did the usual female
tests and everything. Because I had chosen to not go
to the doctor for like ten years. I don't like
going to the doctor. Spent like my whole childhood in hospital,
so I don't I don't spend very much time at

(36:20):
the doctor's office now. But if I hadn't been pregnant,
we wouldn't have found it and I wouldn't be here.
Because it was the rapid developing kind. It was so
easy for me. They got it all with the biopsy.
I didn't have to go through chemo, I didn't have
to go through radiation, I didn't have to be scared.

(36:43):
I had to go do the female tests every six
months for seven years with my punishment for skipping the
annual one for ten years. But aside from that, that
was it. Man, and I don't know. Richard Bierre says
as monkey pops a poxfirevirus or a herpes family, I'm
not sure. I know, like smallpox I think is a

(37:05):
herpes virus, so monkey pox might also be a herpes virus.
From the pictures I've seen, it looks like one, but
that doesn't necessarily mean it is. But it's the same
family of viruses that it really I kind of suspect
that the explosion of skin cancer, you know, over the

(37:25):
years before everybody started using sunscreen was probably contributed to
by those chicken pox parties that the baby boomers had
with my generation when we were kids, so that we
would just get it at the age where we were
least likely to be harmed by it because they didn't know,

(37:46):
you know. But in any case, like there's there's all
of that, just this idea that humans were made to
just have wild, rampant, indiscriminates sex and then split up
from each other and move on to another partner over
and over again. It's a wrong idea, and it's damaging

(38:08):
to both sexes. And you know, women have have their
repercussions from it and men have theirs. And I think
the in cell community is one of those repercussions, the
fact that there's a whole segment of the population that
has been left out of this behavior because of different things.

(38:29):
Some of it it's some of them are intellectually disabled,
a lot of them are artistic, many of them are
disabled physically, have or have at least some degree of
what other people would look at and see as a deformity.
And I'm like, I'm not just talking about unattractive facial features.
I'm talking about years ago I had a boyfriend that

(38:50):
had one of his pectoral muscles never grew, so one
side of his chest was completely flat. That happens with
women too. A lot of times women will be given
as so he wasn't given a surgery, so he had
a muscle on one side and a flat chest on
the other side. And I guess some women are picky
about stuff like that. This guy was a great guy.
He wasn't the guy, but I mean, we parted on

(39:14):
good terms and he's he moved on to somebody else,
and I believe he got married. But today women are
very picky about stuff like that, and they can be
downright bitchy about it. And you know, that's that's minors.
Some guys have a really rough time. There are two
levels below the bottom rung of the social ladder that

(39:36):
are populated. The first one down is populated almost exclusively
by guys, and the bottom one is exclusively guys. And
that's who is in the in cell community. Is those guys.
Guys that don't know how to socialize very well, or
guys that you know, maybe they're way too short or

(39:58):
way too skinny, or have a sweating problem. Are all
kinds of different things because they see everybody else engaging
in this crazy ass behavior that everybody has made normal.
It does damage to them too. And you know it's
not it's not something when I say, well, how dare
you sleep with people? Because this other guy is going
to be sad. It's the psychology of this normalizing a

(40:23):
behavior that is unhealthy and dangerous and making it look
like not only is it normal, but it's a requirement
for you to be considered normal and it's supposed to
be fun and important to people's lives. Then you have
a whole segment of the population that's left out of
it that's very damaging.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
So that's the.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Reason do they demonize them for it.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
There's a reason that most animal species, if not damn
near all animal species that haven't gone extinct to this.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Day, gravitate to either a tournament.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Situation or a pair bonding situation. Is because they're the
safest ways of doing these things. A tournament because it's
one male and a whole bunch of females, or I
guess in a bunch of insects species one female and
bunch of males, or pair bonding, and this is why

(41:19):
apes evolved from tournament to pair bonding with apparently a
very narrow pathway in between the two, because the only
other alternative is what we have in the modern age,
where everyone's just fucking everyone's a.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Very good not having the babies.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
The good reason we have that no species exist, that
where everyone just fucks everyone all the time is because
of SGDs, because nature is always fighting this arms war,
and that includes the various bacteria and viruses that are
always vying to try and get from body to body,
and any species that devolves into everyone fucking everyone by

(41:58):
these various viruses and bacteria that are always hoping to
jump from body to body as quickly as they possibly caunt,
and societal norms where everyone shouldn't fuck everyone all the time,
because if we did have these societal norms, we would
fucking die. Our species would fucking die at the hands
of all of these viruses and bacteria that are just

(42:19):
jumping at the chance of this happening so they can
kill us all.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Well.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
That that that that spaceship that's headed here from what's
it what's it called thirty thirty one Atlas or whatever
they're gonna they're gonna destroy the planet anyway. It makes
me think of weird al Yakovic's Happy Birthday, but where
he says it finishes up something about things being irrelevant
because we're all gonna die. But you know, my point

(42:46):
on this is, like, we have this whole complicated factor
around this community that the contributing factors to their existence
as a community, the contributing factor factors to their personal
circum stances, and the contributing factors to their psychology, those
all get ignored.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Right.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
The fact that women's standards are the reason why they
so brutally criticize each other's looks, that gets ignored. And
what is it, Oh, it's unrealistic definitions of manhood being
imposed by the manisphere on men, promoting anxiety, self harm,
and risky behaviors. You know, it has absolutely nothing to
do with the fact that all of society is geared

(43:28):
toward making them think there's something wrong with them if
they don't engage in probably one of the unhealthiest behaviors
that humanity has adopted throughout our entire history besides war.
And similarly, like harmful gender attitudes and social norms, And
they accuse us of amplifying sexist stereotypes and harmful social

(43:50):
norms with limited accountability because we have anonymity right, so
harmful stereotypes like the stereotype that women men should be
so afraid of men that they'd rather run into a literal,
biological killing machine in the woods, a predatory meat eating omnivorous.

(44:12):
In fact, it might eat your close to killing machine
rather than a guy, because guys are so scary, despite
the fact the violent crime perpetration is representative of less
than one tenth of one percent of the male population

(44:33):
in the world over the age of fifteen.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Have we done crocodile versus man? I want to see
how that plays out. If you happen to be in
the North Australian swamp or somewhere in an African swamp,
would you rather encounter assault water crocodile than a man?
I just want to see what women say. I just
I want to take this experiment as far as we

(44:57):
can take it.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
If you happen to be in.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Coastal waters, would you rather encounter a great white shark
than a man?

Speaker 3 (45:04):
I just want to see what women say.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Because I get the horrible, the most horrible feeling that
they'll say, oh yeah, a great white shop definitely a
great white shark would be better than a.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Man, because you don't know what a man's gonna do.
You know exactly what a great white shok can do.
It's gonna bite you in half and then face.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
I don't know what he's gonna do, patriarchy on you,
and than a great white.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Shok eating you in three pieces fucking hell.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
The the evil man might take you out and pay
for your dinner and and then then you have to
then you might have to tell him that that's that's
that's nice at all, But you're not going back to
his apartment with him, but you'd like to take him
out next week. Most women won't do that part, not
at all. That's my challenge your homework. If you're female

(46:01):
and you're listening to this and and you're you're dating somebody,
treat him, take him out and and treat him to
something that you know he might pick if he was
going to just go out by himself and do it
like you know, a lot of guys are are into

(46:23):
cars or mechanical thing. You know, a lot of guys
are into anime. A lot of guys are into comic books.
You know, go go to something like that. Go to
something that you know is one of his hobbies. Get
tickets to his his favorite band, a performance of his
favorite band, and treat him and see what happens, because

(46:47):
it's a lot of fun to watch the response it is,
you know, except once in a while it's a little
overwhelming for a guy. There was an incident once in
my history where you know, guy, I was like, why
it being so nice to you? And then he cried.
I felt so bad for a minute, but you know,
once the overwhelming aspect of it got got got done.

(47:11):
And I mean like, it's because it's overwhelming because that
happens to them so rarely, and we get pampered like
that all the time. Oh, I want to take you
to I know you like this singer. I want to
take you to hear this singer sing. All right, you
said you wanted to see this movie. Well it's let's go.
Let's go this weekend. There's this fancy new restaurant I
want to take you to, you know, and and women

(47:33):
will be flattered and have a good time, and they'll
do their best to make sure the guy knows they
had a good time, and everything will be on their
best behavior. You know. Sometimes they'll be on their worst behavior.
But how often do you reciprocate, really reciprocate and take
him someplace, pay for his meal, and get tickets to

(47:54):
something that you know he would like to do, not
something that you want him to like to do, with
something you know he would like to do, and and
and and because it is so rare, it can be
that overwhelming. And but like the rest of the night
was a blast, and it was so much fun, and
it is a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
We went to see well, one time we went to
see Queens of the Stone Age.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
We both happened to love that band.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
And and then last year, well.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Was it was it?

Speaker 5 (48:23):
This year, Mike, we went to go see Promise and
I surprised him. Yeah, yeah, and just the look on
his face was just priceless. It was worth all of
the effort and everything.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a great experience for both
of you. And you know, if he's been treating you,
he deserves it anyway. So yeah, but yeah, this this
idea of sexist stereotypes, right that that generalization of that
one minus you know, under one tenth of one percent

(49:00):
that is criminally violent. And and by the way, one
of the starkest differences between criminally violent men and all
of the other men in the world who do are
not criminally violent, is that criminally violent men, for one
reason or another from their history or sometimes because of
genetics and birth injuries, are fucked in the head. There

(49:23):
is a different mental pattern, and there's even a different
pattern in like when they look at the brain when
they do MRIs and they can they can actually see
which part of the brain is, you know, having having
reactions and everything. It's it's as different between criminally violent

(49:46):
people and ordinary guys that are just living their lives
and doing their best as it is between people with
physical brain damage from brain injuries and people with healthy
brain It's that different.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
And so.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
To generalize those extremely different guys to the rest of
the guys is an incredibly harmful stereotype. It not only
does it damage the reputation of men and create animosity
toward men and put them in a state of, you know,
having to defend themselves because they're being defamed, and make them,

(50:29):
you know, if it affects the ego as well, right,
their self esteem and causes men to feel like they
have something to make up for that isn't even their fault, right,
But it also teaches women not to defend themselves, not
have situational awareness, not to be able to tell the
difference between a predator and someone who isn't going to

(50:50):
do anything to them or might even help them if
a predator comes after them. And so that's bad as well.
And it prevents women from being able to tell the
difference between a potential partner who would be a good
father versus a potential partner who would not. So it's
harmful to children. But feminists do that anyway, right, And

(51:15):
this organization that is upset about harmful gender attitudes and
social norms toward women does that. They promote the idea
that domestic violence is something that men do and women
experience that is widespread, pervasive, and can be generalized to
the male population at large as a behavior. And they're

(51:40):
pushing for legislation that relies on the the the Luth
model of handling domestic violence, which draws on patriarchy theory
and dictates that authorities and help systems for victims presume
domestic violence to be something that the male population does

(52:05):
to the female population as a form of patriarchal dominance,
oppression and control. But that's not a harmful stereotype or
gender attitude, is it.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Well, you know, we live in a society, but we
live in a society in which predation is based on
our faction more than it's based on physicality.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Because back in the Stone Age and the paleolopic whoever
it was, when predation was based on physicality, was based
on the monsters that we lived with, lived with, like
bears and crocodiles and gray was shocks, mostly lined animals.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
But you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Yeah, and we've ejected most of that from our society,
especially in Britain where we've killed all the bears and
the wolves, and now looking out for predators is a
whole different set of.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Well game theory.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Dare I say now that we live in a society,
we we live with predators who are gaming the system
of this society that they have to get through the
psychological barriers before they can get through the physical barriers.
Not that there aren't, not that we don't still live
with monsters who don't give a shit about the psychological barrier,

(53:22):
especially nowadays now that we have infinite fifty IQ shadow
beasts from Palkistan wandering around who have the lowest barrier
of psychological walls to get over because they think they
can just go you me, you're beautiful, me, you have babies, me,
fuck you me, You're in all these bullshit.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
But at the same at the same time, there are
still intelligent psychopaths.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
And yeah, I know that sounds like like you're making
it sound like there are psychopaths who are more intelligent than.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Other people, but there are.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
This is this is something we I don't like to address,
but a great of the psychopaths who need to be
put in high security prison are highly intelligent, and that's
how they become successful serial killers and serial rapis in
the first.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Week because they are able to get around Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Yeah, they are able to get around these psychological barriers
in the same way physical predators that are able to
get around physical barriers.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
The good thing is that the overwhelming majority of psychopaths
are not in that group. They're dumb enough to get caught.
But the ones that are in that group, it's a
scary combination to have an extremely high IQ and a
total lack of conscience in the same person. Very very dangerous.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Because because men are much more physical and women are
much more psychological.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Well in different ways.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
You know, these are the avenues through which these predators
are able to evolve themselves. And yes, even back in
the Stone Age, there were female psychopaths who were able
to manipulate males despite those women being idiots, and despite
those males being idiots.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Even female idiots.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Have a leg over when they comes possibly that no
the best phrasing, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
They had the ability to.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Get over men's psychology in the way that men weren't
able to get over women's. Men have always been more
physically stronger than women, but women have always been.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I'm going to say psychologically, well, I do, because that's
what strength is.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
It's just this ability to get over hurdles, and women
have always had this over men. We've evolved this way
where women can affect men psychologically and emotionally and peremonially. That's,
you know, let's not forget in ways that men can't do.

(55:53):
Evolution set of stuff for this, the way that women's
tears can affect men psychologically and emotionally in the way.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
The were men's. Women don't give a shit about men's pears.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Here than men's. In adolescents men's tear ducts change. Boys
tear ducts change, and it does become physically harder for
them to cry. This is one of the reasons why
it's such an abusive thing for feminists to say that
the reason that male suicide rates are so much higher

(56:27):
than women's is that men don't cry enough. They can't
cry at the drop of a hat the way feminists do.
Most men can't do that. Occasionally you'll find a guy
whose tear ducts remained equally developed and didn't change. But
most of the time, you know, dudes don't have the

(56:49):
capacity to cry as easily as women, to be triggered
to tears as easily as women. And it's probably an
evolutionary thing as well. You know, we have that whole
neotony thing going for us, and you know, a woman
who has a more neotinous face and when she turns

(57:12):
on the water works. It is designed and packaged to
pull on your heart strings. And it doesn't just pull
on the heart strings of men, it pulls on heart
strings of other women too. So it's something that you
know that's it's not it's biological, it's not just a

(57:34):
psychological thing. But but yeah, this idea that you know,
because men handle pain and suffering differently than women. They're
part of it is, you know, the lack of compassion
that boys face growing up. They learned that if they

(57:54):
need relief from something, or they have a problem that
they need a solution to, it's on them to find
that solution or get that relief, or they have to tough
out the problem because the adults around them aren't going
to coddle them the way that they call the girls.
And you know, girls, on the other hand, learn to

(58:15):
go to an adult for help, and as they become
adults themselves, they learn to treat males as more adult
than themselves, even if those males are still boys. And
that's where you end up with pedophile school teachers that
are like in their early timidnis that rape their students

(58:36):
and then blame them. They blame the victim for their
predatory behavior because they've learned to treat male as synonymous
with more adult and female as synonymous with less adult.
And you know, it's they're very dangerous because of that,

(58:56):
and it's something that if we don't do something about that.
You know, in the histories of violent criminals and in
particular violent sex offenders. There's a much higher rate of
having been victimized sexually or having been abused by a
woman than in the rest of the population. It's not

(59:20):
a high rate, as in necessarily always proven to be
more than fifty percent, but it's there's a disproportionate percentage,
and so that indicates that that is a contribute significant
contributing factor. And so even if you don't care that
these people that their lives are destroyed and when they

(59:42):
become criminals, or that the victims that they affect are harmed,
the fact that our society ends up having to pay
for containment and penalties and therapies and stuff like that
because of that, you should be at least upset that
your tax dollars are are being used up by these women,
even if you don't have compassion for the individuals that

(01:00:04):
they've harmed, but you should have compassion for the individuals
that they've harmed, unless you're a psychopath, but yeah, harmful
give your attitude and social norms. Only men do that, right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Every species maxes out certain stats, to put it in
gamer terms, that can develop their evolutionary niche because we
all evolve into niches where where we max out our
health stats, or our or our mobility stats or harmopholage
stats or whatever or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
It is the super not long neck like a giraffe,
so that you can nothing else in reach exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
And all these species are in danger of if they've
become too successful.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
They just continue a maxing out these stats.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Even if they encounter environmental constraints or non constraints where
they've become so successes that their blessing becomes a curse,
if you will, where the giraffe necks become too long,
or cheeta has become too fast that they can't they
have no stamina or whatever. And this is the problem

(01:01:14):
with humans. We've maxed out our compassion stats, are going
to center compassion status, that we've reached this point where
it's where we're like, we don't know how to how
to turn back. We don't we don't know how to
turn off this evolutionary niche that has made us so successful.
And arguably this is what religions are for, this is

(01:01:37):
what the mythologies are for that people encounter these problems
that these evolutionary niches have brought us into and the
only way to turn back, because it takes millions of
years for evolution to turn this ship off. And when
we get into a situation that Humors are into, where
we advance thousands of years at a time, we've got
hundreds of years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
At a time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
We are advancing so quickly societally and civilizationally, but we
can't appeal to evolution to turn this off because it's
going to take millions of years. And this is why
it's I guess it's helpful that we have that our
evolutionary niche involves our brains, and our brains are able
to write things down.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
We write things down like these.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
These are religious books that we have to sort of
to tell people you really need to wind this ship
back in the in the event you can.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
And this is why we have stories like Adam and Eve.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
This is why we have stories like all that shit
in the Bible, like Sodom and more about you know,
be fucking careful not not to go this far. And
that's the best we can do. And this is this
is society fighting against evolution, and it's always going to
be an upward battle. And this is why it's such
an upward battle for us. Here at Honey Badger Radio
and indeed here in the U S the main's arts

(01:02:52):
movement that we're you know, that we're trying to put
some kind of societal barriers in place to push back
into this evolutionary niche we have where well, we have
these huge brains that make sure we we protect women
at all costs. And when I say all costs, I
mean at the cost of men and if you and children,

(01:03:16):
and if we don't push back against that, it will
be our downfall. And it's already looking like it is
going to be our downfall. And you know, I'm not
saying we're trying to create a religion. I'm just like,
we're trying to write down as much shit as we can,
well in in the in the in the modern age equivalent,
we're trying to do as many podcasts to try to

(01:03:39):
try and let people know. Look, I know we are
evolutionarily set up two.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
To do the things we're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
And you know, I don't want to run into into
too much shit about say that we're naturally kind of centric.
I don't think we are necessarily that naturally guid ecentric.
But there's a seed there, there's a seed in there
somewhere that has been taken too far. And yeah, we're
just here to tell people we've taken that seed too far.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
We can pull it back to that seed and only
back to that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Seed where we're like, yes, we know it's important to
have compassion for women, but it's also important that we
have compassion for men. I think we also have the
seed of compassion for men. I think that's also something
that's taken us this far. But that's the seed we've forgotten.
The seed we've germinated is the guyanescentric seed, and I

(01:04:34):
think it's perfectly possible for us to continue to germinate
that seed, but to also plant a few seeds of
what's even the word.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
What have you ever heard that word before? How many
people have even heard that word before? Androphilia? What is
that thing? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Having a
love for men? What? What?

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Yeah, let's see if we can. Let's see if we
can have love for men in the same way we
have of a women. No, yes, I'm gay. I sound
like a fucking gay. Don't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
If we don't start having that where we're, uh, we're
gonna see our our species die off. Yeah, Like we're
we are barely as as a species reproducing faster than
we are dying off right now, and we are slowing
our reproduction is slowing down worldwide. There are nations where

(01:05:29):
it's not slowing down that there are more nations where
it is, and a lot of it is because we
have full beyond compassion for women, we have deference, which
is not the same as compassion. Right and and a
good example of this is what what some guys call

(01:05:50):
the peace tax. Right, your your wife, girlfriend, mom, sister,
some woman at work, you know, whatever does or says
something that if a dude did it, you would call
him on it. You'd correct him, and he'd say, oh, okay,
you know, Or you might have a little bit of

(01:06:11):
an argument, but if you proved your case, then he
would concede and adjust, because that's what most of the
time guys do. Occasionally, there are guys that don't. They're
guys that will argue the point even though they know
they're wrong. But women do it all the time. And
on top of that, if you do prove her wrong,

(01:06:32):
she's going to hold it against you like you've committed
a crime, rather than rescuing her from being wrong permanently,
like you get a choice when you're wrong. You can
be wrong for a few minutes and then learn something
and go on not being wrong anymore because now you

(01:06:52):
know the correct information. Or you can be wrong forever
and die on that hill, which is stupid, but that's
what women do. And how dare you you know, they
say that they are wrong, and how dare you pull
them off of that hill even while it's being struck
by a thousand bolts of lightning, because that he'll belongs

(01:07:15):
to them. They have every right to it, and they'll
fry if they want to fry. It's their party, and
they'll fry if they want to. So the peace tax
is when men hold their tongue. They don't what is
it men explain about something that women think they know
when they're wrong. And when you pay the piece tax,

(01:07:37):
you know you are giving up a bit of yourself.
You are exercising something that a lot of women don't understand,
called humility. But at the same time, the sacrifice if
this is something of any importance, even if it's just
minor importance, she's gonna be not just can be wrong
in her head and in your head, she's gonna screw

(01:07:59):
something up, and maybe you have to let her fall.
Maybe you have to let her suffer the consequences. Maybe
you have to let other people suffer the consequences so
that there is not a ten years war over that
day that you told her that she was wrong, Which
really that's men going overboard for ginocentrism, but the reason

(01:08:19):
behind it is because women go overboard for narcissism. Another
way to describe ginocentrism is female narcissism societal female narcissism.
And we go back to those like those ancient stories
and different religions, like the ones I know, you know,

(01:08:39):
the best of the Bible stories because that's what I
was raised in. People look at the original sant Adam
and Eve and the apple and everything, and you know,
all the things that people get out of that story
about who should be in charge and all that. A
lot of times they miss the point that the trigger

(01:09:02):
inside of Eve for choosing to believe the serpent instead
of believing God was ego narcissism. Vanity. Vanity is the
devil's favorite sin, and it's unfortunately women's most frequently committed. Right,

(01:09:23):
you'll be like God, you'll be special, you'll be wise,
You're not gonna die from eating this, you're gonna learn
all kinds of things that God doesn't want you to know.
You deserve, right, you deserve that knowledge. And Eve decided
she deserved and she ate the apple. And then she

(01:09:45):
was wasn't content to have sinned on her own. She
couldn't be the only person that did something wrong. So
she gave it to Adam, because because Adam may have
been gynocentric, and also he was right there and he
saw that, like the serpent said, she ate the apple

(01:10:06):
and she didn't die. I know it wasn't a literal apple,
by the way, but therefore you know that that must
have been a lie. Well God didn't say instantly, but
he ate it. And now they both have consumed from
the tree of knowledge, and the rest of the story
is known. But it was ego. It was vanity that

(01:10:29):
got that all started. The same thing that drives women
to spend between one and three hundred dollars a month
on makeup and fake fingernails and fake boobies and fake
butt cheeks and fake hair and fake eyelashes, fake height,

(01:10:51):
high heeled shoes, new clothes. Even if you have a
whole closet full of clothes, you know that stuff that
makes your waist thinner and your buttler bigger, and your
lips look fatter, and and and that's just the you know,
that's the women that don't go and get procedures done
plastic surgery or have that thing that sucks your lips

(01:11:12):
out like a duck's bill, you know, or botox in
your face. This industry that caters to women by telling
them that they're not pretty enough, but they could be
if they would just spend you know this many thousands
of dollars. It's vanity. It is the biggest downfall of
humanity that we cater to women's vanity. We have more

(01:11:36):
compassion for women's need to feed their vanity than we
do for men's need to eat, sleep somewhere safe and warm,
and maybe have access to utilities and medicine. More money
gets put into research on how to make women prettier

(01:11:59):
than and solving the homeless problem, figuring out how to
help get guys who are disadvantaged because they're mentally ill,
or they're addicted to drugs, or they've had their down
on their luck for some other reason, off the street
and into a better situation. Seventy five percent of the homeless,
ninety five percent of the unsheltered homeless. And you know, nobody,

(01:12:25):
nobody gives enough of a flying fuck to say, maybe
we should do some research into how to curb this
this problem that's affecting these men so that they can
have better lives. Nope, we want to find out how
to make women look younger. We want to figure out
how to make women's asses look fatter, you know, make

(01:12:46):
women look like if they if they bend over too
far forward, they're going to fall, which, you know, not
too ironically.

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
You know, the things that women do to make themselves
look younger eventually age them and make them look older.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Yeah, true, Well, and do you know what botox is, yes,
bacheline and yep, it's attenuated botulism.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
It's the most toxic, naturally occurring substance known to man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
The words to use when they were little and as
a substitute for a cuss word because it sounds like one,
but it isn't, so you know, instead of you know,
like you hit your thumb with a hammer and study
la fuck you watualism. It worked for a few years.
They all know fuck now, but they're adults. They're they're
like they're all, you know, over twenty five, so two

(01:13:39):
of them are over thirty. I'm old, so yeah, harmful,
harmful gender attitudes and social numbers. And then we have
the last thing we'll go over tonight, dangerous social and
dating behavior. We talked a little bit about that already, right,
But this this one, they say the manisphere teaches young
men how to manipulate women into sex. Okay, so remember

(01:14:03):
in their first paragraph, in cells are the manisphere. So
this is their third paragraph, in the third paragraph, pickup
artists are the manisphere. Do you have any idea the
size of the gap between in cells and pickup artists? Well,
clearly they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Damned if you do, if you don't, caul in the
possible way. Yeah, how do you how do we find
the middle ground between damned if you do and damned
if you don't. It just just don't do anything, no
way that that counts as don't. That's so damn So
any don't and make sure you don't run into any

(01:14:47):
x because those are also damned. Damned if you do,
damned if you don't, damned. If you try to find
the middle ground, then it happens to be an ic.
You might just get damn to every possible avenue.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
You know what really gives me the ick women who
get up set it men for doing normal things. Yeah,
like that, Really something's wrong with that. There's there's a
it's it's like watching somebody bite their fingernails back so
far that they bleed and then keep on going lit.

(01:15:24):
You know, I had somebody somebody tweeted a picture of
somebody else's tweet screenshot of somebody else's tweet where she
she had said, never date men that have hobbies, because
you know the idea of men having personal interests in
ways to you know, use their creativity. Like somehow that

(01:15:48):
gave her the ick.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
Hobby is pleasing women? Oh that makes you APPETI not
pleasing women. Oh that makes you as a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
But she's on social media, which is a hobby for women.
It's attention seeking, Like I do this, you know, and
I'll cultivate attention in order to be able to post
about issues that I think people don't pay enough attention to.
But a lot of women do this with you know,

(01:16:20):
pictures of their butt or pictures of their dinner, or
or they figure out a way to put their tits
and their dinner in the same picture. Really clever.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
So I might call that a fetish. When women do it,
it's not a fetish, it's a hobby. But it's not
a hobby either, because hobbies are icky. So when women
do it, it's just they're.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Just living their lives.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Come on, gentlemen, just let women live their lives.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Like There are some influencers that make money that the
majority don't make very much money and dedicate a shit
ton of energy into what they're doing. You know. Political
influencers at least have a cause, they have a reason.
We see things that need to be changed in society,

(01:17:11):
and we talk about it because we want other people
to understand about it, and then when they go and
engage with the civic system, they engage with those those understandings,
those new understandings in mind. And that's so political influencers
are at least activists to some degree, you know, And

(01:17:32):
most don't get rich like Russ Limbaugh. Most have other jobs.
Some have two jobs besides their influencer thing. Social influencers
are a whole other deal like some of them. Again,
they make a lot of ad money and stuff. A
lot of them don't, and they really are just doing
it for the dopamine hits they get when they see

(01:17:55):
how many people liked or shared their comments. And you know,
when I look at my analytics, I don't look so
much at who liked and shared or how many people
liked and shared. I look at how many people saw it,
because it's if it's an idea and I'm trying to
get an idea across, that's the important number. But if you're,

(01:18:18):
you know, trying to get approval for the presentation of
your peanut butter and jelly sandwich or whatever you had
for lunch, that the important button is the likes, right,
the like buttons suddenly becomes your lifeline. You're tap in
a vein, trying to get more likes in there as
quickly as you can for those dopamine hits, and people

(01:18:40):
will be addicted to that shit. But yeah, and of
course you know these are the women, these women with
this hobby of seeking attention for things that are kind
of irrelevant. Nobody else gives a flying fuck what you
had for lunch unless you're gonna present something that they

(01:19:03):
might want a recipe for and they might want to
cook at home, and you could share that, say here's
how to do this. It's really yummy. You should try it,
or let me cook some for you sometime.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Oh no, I think I just told women to make
people sandwiches out of a peanut butter sandwiches. I'm sexist.
I make good sandwiches, not as good as the ones
my husband makes. But but yeah, nobody gives a flying
fuck what you had for lunch. Right, But that dopamine
hit that hobby. You know, you don't even realize you're
using your hobby to bitch about guys hobbies. You don't

(01:19:37):
even realize you're doing the thing that you're criticizing. So
this idea the manis for teaching young men how to
manipulate women into sex. Women use sex to manipulate men
into economic support, and to.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
So many of the hobbies that that women find it
icky in men.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
These hobbies can become correct. I'm gonna put my hand
up right now.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
Like my hobbies were making music and making chilly videos
and they are currently my career.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
And there are so many of us that like to.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Do remedial jobs like being a postman or being a
McDonald's worker, and we do that shit while we work
on our hobbies, and if we're really good at our hobbies,
then we can turn those hobbies into careers.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
And women do the same. A lot of women do
the same.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
Unfortunately, a lot of women, like you say, their hobbies
are telling people what they have for lunch, And I
guess that can become how much that there are a
lot of cooking channels on the internet or and the
television where people can like, well, just tell people what
they've had for lunch, but tell people how they cooked
it and how you can cook it too, And yeah,

(01:20:55):
so almost anything you can do as a hobby can
become a career. Struggling to think of anything that couldn't
other than just telling people how you feel and how
much you fucking hate men. Oh wait, even that can
become a hobby. It can can become a career, an
academic career. No less, there are countless women who have

(01:21:16):
tenure universities just telling everyone about how much they hate men.
So yeah, literally, any hobby can become a career. Oh,
what's your fucking problem other than just trying to prevent
people from turning their hobby into a career, like be supportive,

(01:21:37):
How difficult is it, ladies to be supportive of someone's interests,
because that's all a hobby is. It's an interest that
can rise from a personal interest to a career that
can actually sustain you and maybe even make millions, maybe
even billions of dollars. I mean, think of all the

(01:21:58):
billionaires in the world, the people who began engaging in
a hobby that didn't make them any money at first,
but then ended up making them billions of dollars. I mean,
that's the only difference between a hobby and a career.
It's it's how much the hobbyist is supported in their hobby.
So fucking support people that this is not difficult.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Lauren, did you have something you were unmuted? No, I'm
sorry I was, I was coughing. I just wanted I
wanted to make sure before I jumped in. But I
one of my I've had a couple of careers. I
had a career in retail, and you can call it
that because I've worked in various retail outlets anywhere from

(01:22:44):
bottom rung to just below store management for over over
the course of about thirty years time. And I did
the same thing with photography. I had a photography career
and I recently got out a reminder of how much
fun that was, how much I enjoyed it before I moved.

(01:23:06):
And you know, I'm not known in the area where
I live for my work, and so finding more work
here is very difficult. It very competitive area, a lot
of photographers in the Dayton metro area. So I relied
more on the retail thing. But my father was who
taught me photography, started teaching me when I was a

(01:23:26):
little kid, because he was an educator and his hobby
was photography, and he did turn it into a money
making hobby. He was In fact, he had a career
as an educator. He also had a career as a journalist,
and he had a career as a wedding and portrait

(01:23:49):
and commercial photographer. He also was a coach and he
ran the yearbook and photography club at the school where
he taught, and so he needed a lot of things.
So somebody tells men that their their job, their primary
job is all they should be doing, and everything else
should be dedicated to their wives. I'll tell you how

(01:24:10):
my mom handled my dad's hobbies. She learned photography from him,
and she discovered how much she enjoyed it. She's artistic
she was artistic. She painted, She played piano. My dad
played by ear. My mom played from reading music. Dad
couldn't read music. I can't read music very well. I

(01:24:32):
played by ear for years. I don't know if I
still could. It's been a long time. I'm trying to
get back into it. And they did that together too,
you know. But they did photography together. They ran a
business together, they did artwork together, they learned photography together,
and they taught my brother and me photography together. And

(01:24:54):
it was one of the many different ways that they
bonded with each other. And they both had hobbies, each
one that the other didn't have. Little hobbies like my
dad built model cars and he did a little bit
of sculpting and stuff like that. And Mom didn't get
into that. But she got very much into baking. And

(01:25:18):
you know, she sewed. Dad didn't sew. So they had
their own hobbies, but they shared hobbies that they could
take a shared interest in, and they appreciated each other's hobbies.
Mom enjoyed having dad's cars on display. Dad wore things
that Mom made for him. We all did. My mom
was an excellent, excellent tailor. I had stuff people thought

(01:25:40):
when we went places, and people didn't know us. They
would look at the stuff that my mother made and
they thought we were rich. We were really not, but
people did. There was one lady that yelled at us
because she thought we were from Cleveland Heights and at
the time, I don't know if it is still but
at the time that was a hoity toity, wealthy area. Uh.

(01:26:00):
In any case, hobbies can be something that you can
bond over, but women have this tendency to be like, well,
it's a self interest. If a guy has any interest
in himself, if he's not completely subservient to me, that
gives me the itck, Like why do you want to
make yourself so responsible for a guy that he has

(01:26:21):
to be a robot that serves only you and you
have to tell him what to do and you have
to take complete control over his personality and his life
and that kind of like can't you just enjoy being
loved by a whole person and loving him back? And

(01:26:42):
apparently many women can't, right, So it's it's not just
this idea that men manipulate women into sex. Women manipulate men.
Men will start dating a woman and they'll decide whether
or not they can trust her and partner with her
for life, whether this is the woman that might raise

(01:27:03):
their children, if they're going to have children, or weather.
You know, that they can trust that this woman will
a with them and not leave, you know, and not
take half their shit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Women will start dating a guy and he immediately becomes
a fixer upper project. She's madly head over heels in
love with him. He's absolutely perfect, and therefore there's about
thirty seven different things she needs to change about him,
including who his friends are, and his entire wardrobe and

(01:27:35):
what things he does for fun and how he talks right,
and his haircut and you know, like some other laundry
list of bullshit things that as soon as she's done
molding and shaping him into the different guy than that
guy she got together was, she's going to complain that
she doesn't recognize him anymore. Then she's going to leave
him and take half a shit. But yeah, the man

(01:27:57):
is fear is dangerous, guys, because the manisphere teaches men,
young men, how to manipulate women into sex. So I'm
assuming they're talking about pick up artists. I think pick
up artists are dipshits because they are advising men to
do something that is not healthy for them to do.
It's not safe, it gets you into trouble, and you're

(01:28:18):
putting yourself at risk for all of the things we
talked about at the beginning of the show, right, But
then they go on even gendered.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
I'm just gonna say, you know what's not a hobby,
being in the UN.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
I don't know how the fuck anyone goes from from
a lowly status to being in the UN because no
one has a.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Hobby of dictating what everyone in the world should do,
and they and then they suddenly get a career from
telling everyone in the world what they should do.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
So, yeah, un women, if anything, you should be pointing
the fucking crossairs on yourself and asking how the fuck
you came to be hey, when your is not a hobby,
it's just pure.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Your bunch of cunts. Sorry, carry on hand.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Oh, go go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
I'm finished. That's all I need to say.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
No one of these people hate hobbies because what they
do was never a hobby.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
It was always just a grift. Megal of maniacs pursuing
the megalo mania.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Yep. Yeah, So they go on to say even gendered
hate speech is becoming normalized, making its way into school
yards and workplaces. When I was a kid, somebody bought
me a T shirt that said anything boys can do,
girls can do better. And I watched school one day
because I was a kid, kids don't think these things through.

(01:29:47):
And the biggest argument that ever happened in our the
history of our school, happened that day on the playground
over that T shirt. I don't think I reward again
after that. But there was the question, you know what,
what's the evidence? What can you know girls do the
boys can't. And of course girls all when well, girls

(01:30:10):
can have babies, and boys rightfully pointed out, not till
you grow up, not till you get older, you can't
have baby. Right now, we're in the third grade. You
can't even conceive. And we, unfortunately a lot of us
all knew the birds and the bees by that time,
before we got our sex education in school. Of all things,
the one thing the girls had to concede was the

(01:30:33):
boys could pee standing up and not get any on themselves.
And most girls can't do that. They don't have the
muscle control. It's possible to do that, but you have
to be able to fire fast and hard. And get
it all out at once.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
But the boys, I mean, if you lose muscling to
muscle control.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Yeah, then you're gonna be pee on your feet.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
You're going to pee on the seat, and then you
have to well yes, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
But yeah, by the end of the argument, you know,
it was it was conceded that that boys could be
standing up and girls can't. And they didn't even concede
that that guys are stronger because at that age not
very many of them were. You know, like now two

(01:31:22):
years later, they would have had no choice because the
guys could have proved it, I can pick you up,
but you can't pick me up. Would be like about
half the guys of the class could have said that
to about three quarters of the galleys in the class
and been right. But but yeah, the gendered hate speech, right,
and what do they think is gendered hate speeches? On

(01:31:43):
this page here? And if this is an interview, so
we're not going to go through the whole thing, but
she said it. The most common form of attack, she says,
on women's rights defenders and activists women in politics journalis
is harassment and defamation, including criminalization, fabricated charges against women's

(01:32:09):
human rights defenders arbitrarily detaining them, turning into turning them
into political prisoners. So that's their idea of gendered hate
speech becoming the norm, and there's nothing in here that
demonstrates that it is becoming common on school campuses. It's
all about adult women, and in particular women like the

(01:32:32):
women of the un Right. But I just want to
remind everybody, you know, when they talk about criminalization and
detainment and stuff, we've had bomb threats. We've had groups
try to get as kicked out of places, and they
did succeed in one place by mobbing the the administrators

(01:32:56):
of the event on social media and essentially getting our
presence there criminalized in terms of the rules of the location. Right,
but we've had bomb threats the Men's Rights movement, we've
had we've had to change venues for our events because

(01:33:19):
of bomb threats. We've had many men in the organization
have faced attacks where women have tried to accuse them
of harassment or accuse them of saying and doing things
they didn't do. We have a consistent false allegation against

(01:33:39):
the movement and against in cells where feminists have a
list of men who were you know, those fucked and
the head violent criminals often guys that were raised without
a father, by the way, who have engaged in mass killings,
that haven't got a connection with the men's rights movement.

(01:34:03):
They haven't got a connection necessarily with the in cell
population either, the in cell community, but they refer to
them as in cells and therefore men's rights activists, which
there's some overlap in the groups two groups, but not
as much as you would think, because a lot of
in cels don't have that much hope. But then then
and they've claimed that they are representative of us and

(01:34:27):
that their attacks were strictly misogynistic even if they killed men, right,
those men killing misogynists? But yeah, uh gendered hate speech
against women right. Hashtag kill all men on on Twitter
was prevalent, prominent, frequently used, treated like it's just a joke, bro,

(01:34:51):
You shouldn't be so upset, bro, No, this is this
is why men shouldn't be allowed to live men or
men are so humorless, bro. Tag kill all men. There
are not terms targeting women, like the term mansplaining, which
was originally poined to mock men for talking about having

(01:35:16):
the same complaints that women have. On some levels. For instance,
men can be sexual assault victims, men can be domestic
abuse victims, and when they experience that, it's just as
painful and harmful, it's just as much a violation of
their person, and it's just as toxic for the community,

(01:35:39):
sometimes worse. Right, So, when men talk about what they
think of these circumstances, how they feel about these circumstances,
what changes they would like to see made, what help
they might need, feminists accused them of mansplaining. We already
know what it's like to be abuse victims. All women
are abuse victims. The patriarchy, blah blah blah. How dare

(01:35:59):
you take our spotlight, our victim spotlight? Men who have
been stabbed, hit with frying pans, poisoned, shot, had other
men sicked on them by women, men, men who have
been drugged and raped by women, Men who have been
drugged and robbed by women. And yeah, that's where the
term man'splaining originally came from. Now they talk about it

(01:36:24):
like it's, you know, trying to explain things to women
that they already know because they must not know because
they're women. But that's bullshit. They just had to come
up with something to redeem the term man spreading. A
woman can sit on the bus and spread out bags
two feet on either side of her, taking up three seats,

(01:36:45):
or put her feet up on the seat, and she's
not taking up too much space. But if a man's
knees are more than two inches apart, he's man spreading.
That's not hateful, right. Women will suggest that men have
to be genitally mutated and scarred in order to be

(01:37:05):
attractive to women. Can you imagine if women said that,
if men said that about women? How do women react
when you start talking about female genital mutilation? But the
idea that you have to cut off a chunk of
skin that when you reach adulthood would be the size
of a credit card, remove that much skin from your

(01:37:26):
body during infancy so that later on in life you'll
be attractive to women, they don't consider that hate speech.
The idea that it's just not the same to sexually
victimize a man as it is to sexually victimize a woman,
that men are lesser victims when they're they're raped or
when they're abused by their partner. Feminists promote that on

(01:37:48):
a regular basis. That's not hate speech, that's not a
dangerous social norm that's not a negative stereotype of men,
that they're being one if they complain when when our
wife hits them with a frying pan, that they're being
that they have boundary issues. If the discussion is about

(01:38:08):
sexual victims and their psychological damage, and they tell their
story and they talk about what they went through, how
can we as as a population in the world continue
that and consider ourselves to be civilized and enlightened. Say
this is we teach women, our society, our whole world

(01:38:31):
population teaches women and girls that the absolute worst thing
that can ever happen to you in your whole life,
worse than death, is being raped. And I'm here to
tell you it does suck. It is awful. It is
a horrible experience that's humiliating and painful and can be
scary as how, depending on what the details are. Right, Like,

(01:38:58):
somebody is violent toward you or uses a weapon. That's terrifying,
and you know, I'm not afraid to admit that it's
terrifying enough. They can be paralyzing, right because you're afraid
you might die, Not just because you're afraid they're going
to force intimacy on you, because you're afraid you might die.
It's not worse than death. It's it can be horrible

(01:39:20):
and not be worse than death. And similarly, the idea
of being pregnant after being raped. Imagine this scenario right,
Imagine if the minute the baby's delivered, the rapist gets
to come in and take the baby away, and you
can never see the baby again. That's what happens when

(01:39:41):
a man is raped and his rapist conceives she has
custody at birth, and unless she goes after him for
child support, he may not even get an opportunity to
get paternity tested, especially not if he isn't recognized by
the state as a victim. If no charges are brought,

(01:40:04):
no trial, no penalty, he just has to deal with
it and his child, his kid might be being raised
by a sexual predator and there's nothing you can do
about it. You think that's not traumatic.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
And she gets to take his false gain, she gets
to take your your child, And those are among the
two worst things that can happen to a human being,
Taking your child and taking parts of his body along
with them. Present to me any anything that's worse than

(01:40:43):
either of those two things.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
Being murdered, well, that's the only thing. But I mean,
being murdered is ultimately the worst thing that can happen
to a person. Although honestly, if you had being murdered
isn't worse than losing your child. Being murdered might be
worse than losing losing some flesh, even if it important flesh,
if you can survive without it. Like if somebody said,

(01:41:05):
let me cut off your foot or I'm going to
kill you, I would give up my foot. I would
rather stay alive. And when someone said you better sit
still and take it, I did because I didn't want
to get shot. That's the way it is. You know
what's worse than death when you're willing to tolerate it
in order to avoid death. But I would rather die

(01:41:25):
than lose one of my kids. I would rather die
a thousand times than lose one of my kids. I've
had nightmares about that, about losing one of my kids.
It's the most horrible thing, and it haunts you, the
nightmare that when you wake up and you realize it
didn't really happen and you're relieved, the nightmare still haunts

(01:41:45):
you for years. Like my heart goes out to parents
who are alienated from their children and to parents whose
children have died, like I just cannot fathom how horrible
that must be. Well, that is the worst thing that
can happen to a human being, to lose your children.
And it's routinely done to men, routinely on the basis

(01:42:10):
of false allegations of being dangerous to them, with no
basis at all for the allegations, not even actions on
the part of the man. Just he's a man, therefore
he's dangerous. The National Organization for Women in the United States,
several organizations in Canada that are feminist organizations, and you
and Women now because we just read about it last week,

(01:42:33):
have spent years, decades opposing shared parenting rights of different types,
from joint custody to shared parenting and now to equally
shared parenting. They've opposed that on the basis of demonizing
wholesale men in general, and especially fathers, as deadbeats and

(01:42:58):
abusers who don't love their kids and just want to
take them away from the mother and just want to
avoid child support and are going to beat them to
death at the first opportunity, even though statistically, the majority
of child maltreatment, whether it's a physical abuse sexual abuse,
psychological abuse, neglect. Female perpetrated women do it, and approximately

(01:43:23):
seventy percent of children who are killed by one parent
acting alone using one of those types of abuse are
usually neglect, but not always also violence. They're killed by
their mother, not their father. So the stereotype is bullshit,
and feminists know that it's bullshit, but they're still using it.

(01:43:46):
Is that not gendered hate speech calling men something that
they are not in order to take their children away
from them.

Speaker 4 (01:43:53):
Well, as I've often heard, men are killed all the time,
but because they're killed by men, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
It doesn't count men.

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
Men don't count expect him as long as they're killed
by other men.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
So if a female babies are killed by women, that
doesn't mant right that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
The victims are primarily boys. That's the other thing, the majority,
and it's it's not a big gap between the sexes,
but boys edge girls out in terms of being more
often killed by their mothers. So that's yeah, And it's
usually kids under the age of a year, so infants.

(01:44:35):
The greatest perpetrators of infanticide are women, and that's not
counting abortion abortion. If you throw that in, I asked
groc let me see if I I don't think I'm
not signed in on my Google account? Oh shit, hell
is this so you guys probably can't, Probably can't, I know.

(01:44:57):
I opened up my other browser and it started open.
It opened up a YouTube video that I had opened
at some point in the past. There we go. So
I asked groc, let me see if I can just
share this link here. And the way I phrased this question.

(01:45:22):
I phrased it this way because normally now murder is
defined homicide is defined as our murder is defined as deliberate,
not accidental, non negligent killing. Homicide with with an asterisk.
Negligent homicide is a different thing, right, And accidental homicide

(01:45:46):
where there wasn't anything you could do to prevent it
sometimes isn't prosecuted. Self defense isn't prosecuted. You don't get
prosecuted for being a soldier in a war unless you
come to war crime and lose, or your side is
more moral than the other side. So and a death penalty.
The government isn't considered a murderer for killing people, right,

(01:46:08):
So I excluded those things. Right, if we defined homicides
as the deliberate killing of any human being, of any
age by another human being, excluding things that most people
wouldn't think of as homicide. In other words, and we
counted all strictly elective abortions, that being, you know, not

(01:46:28):
for medical reasons to protect the mother from, you know,
a a medically detrimental outcome that the pregnancy was going
to cause. What percentage of homicides worldwide would be female perpetrated?
And GROC went through a whole series of looked at

(01:46:50):
traditional homicides, elective abortions, global statistics on male and female
perpetrated elective abortions. You know, obviously if we counted the
mother as the perpetrator and not the abortionist as the perpetrator,
because the mother is contracting a contract killer there, you know,
And then went through various key inputs here and even

(01:47:15):
the fact that other forms of killing are mostly done
by men. Traditional homicides less than seven tenths of one
percent of the total are negligible compared to elective abortions,
so the female percentage hovers near ninety nine point four percent,

(01:47:38):
regardless of minor variations. This holds even if excluding fetal sex,
as the query specifies a human being of any age,
including fetuses, or adjusting for underreporting. So even with underreported homicide,
ninety nine point four percent, over ninety nine percent of

(01:48:01):
human death in the world is caused by women over
or of humans killing other humans. Sorry, not human death.
Although the leading cause of human death in the world
is being aborted, it edges out even cardiopulmonary conditions, though
it's quite a factor. In some areas, girls are more

(01:48:25):
likely to be aborted for various reasons, and in some
areas boys are more likely to be aborted for various reasons.
But in every pregnancy that is aborted electively, in other words,
the mother chooses it. The perpetrator is the mother, not
some stranger, you know, not someone rob in the house,

(01:48:47):
not partner violence. And that's three and ten pregnancies that
that's happening with, by the way, because I check those
statistics too, Three in ten pregnancies worldwide it ends in
an elective abortion. So all of this this stereotyping men
as violent, all of this stereotyping men as dangerous and

(01:49:10):
men as natural killers, where women would never do anything
like that. Yeah, well, if you count abortion, there's a
whole different story there, and there's there's a lot of
us that do because it is a living human organism
that is being killed. In that instance, even AI can

(01:49:33):
recognize that the magical vagina, the birth canal, does not
bestow humanity, the being a member of the human species
onto the baby on its way through. It was human,
and it was alive before it popped out, whether male

(01:49:54):
or female, and it is genetically distinct from the mother
because it also has the father's d in it. So
so yeah, it's a horrible fact, but it is a fact.
And yet who gets demonized as violent and women who
you know, there's another thing that you got to understand
about this, right, Just like the fact that the majority

(01:50:16):
of violent crime is committed by a small percentage of
mostly repeat offenders, the same is true about abortion. A
lot of abortion is done by a small percentage of
repeat offenders, and they're very blase about it. I had
a colleague at work when I was in retail that,
you know, she was young, and like she was eighteen

(01:50:39):
years old, and she had already had four abortions, and
she talked about it like you know, you would talk
about getting your toenails clip. She had no consideration for
what she had done at all, didn't care didn't feel
bad about it, didn't have feelings about it, any feelings
about it at all, because she didn't think of them
as human beings. So so there you go. Yeah, it's uh,

(01:51:07):
it's men who are dangerous, right. You'd rather be in
the woods alone with a bear than a man. A
night motorcyclist says, get nine abortions in the tenth when
is free. No, it doesn't work that way. And by
the way, in the profession, there are more female practitioners
than male and most of the staff are female as well.

(01:51:28):
So it is a mostly female run industry that does
this baby killing and then those parts do get sold off.
That's been proved. So so there you go. But we
have this perception, right, this belief that it's men who
are dangerous to children. More and more school teachers are

(01:51:49):
getting busted. Female school teachers are getting busted for raping
their students, and of course the news media doesn't report
it that way, right, this twenty year old school teacher.
I saw one headline in which they actually said attractive
school teacher the attractive rapist. They ain't call her a rapist.
Attractive school teacher jailed for it was like illicit relationship

(01:52:14):
or some shit like that with student, and then you
find out you look at the story and you find
out the student was like thirteen, not an illicit relationship.
This is a thirteen year old. He cannot consent. You
are a rapist, lady, But the news media doesn't say that.
I don't call her a rapist, right, And they mentioned

(01:52:34):
she's attracted. Can you imagine attractive men breaks into women's
houses and has sex with them, attractive refugee from Fukistan.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
It's a highly subjective term, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
Yeah, but that's that's the thing, you know. It's it's
usually a female privilege, like you completely and utterly obliterate
the boundaries of a poor, innocent child, and the news
media says, oh, but she was attractive, It's okay, Like, fuck, no,

(01:53:10):
it wasn't. That kid's going to be messed up for
the rest of his life. He is now up to
forty four times more likely to abuse chemical substances, up
to fourteen times more likely to commit suicide. He has
a higher likelihood of developing a laundry list of mental

(01:53:30):
health conditions, a lower likelihood of graduating, lower likelihood of
going on to college, a lower likelihood of being able
to form a productive relationship, a loyal and functional relationship
with a partner in adulthood. If he's If he's gay,

(01:53:52):
he might be confused about that. If he's straight, he
might be confused about that. And there's also a slightly
higher chance that he might become sexually aggressive than there
is that any other boy in his class would, or
any girl sexually abused. Same thing. If a student sexually

(01:54:12):
abuses a girl child, she may have those those saints.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
But in any case, it's it's the boy who's been
raped one generation before or the boy who's been raped
one generation after, who will go on to.

Speaker 6 (01:54:25):
Be blamed, yep, for the the rape culture or whatever
the fuck it is. We're calling it now, and it'll
just go on and on forever until we can, you know,
address the idea.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
Sometimes boys are raped too, sometimes women.

Speaker 4 (01:54:44):
Are rapists too, because that's that's the thing that seems
to be missing.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
Yeah, in the long run, it does create a cycle,
you know, and it's it actually creates a couple of cycles,
because there's another thing that happens that it's less reported
on with victims of childhood sexual abuse. Sometimes we go
on to become what feminists like to refer to as
poly victims, which basically means your ability to defend your

(01:55:11):
boundaries was erased. You don't understand that you have a
right to your own boundaries. Other people's boundaries are not
the only boundaries that are allowed to exist. And you
can also say you know no further than this line.
I don't want to do this thing. I don't want
to participate. I don't want to be touched or taken
advantage of. And you don't protect yourself. You don't have

(01:55:35):
situational awareness. You don't have you don't recognize bad character,
You don't vet for character in the people that you
associate with. You may compromise yourself with substances in situations
where the people that you're with are untrustworthy and things
like that, and you find yourself getting victimized again and again,

(01:55:59):
not just sex, but in a lot of other ways
as well. People talk you into spending money on them
that you can't afford, or going out of your way
and spending labor on them that you can't afford. People
take advantage of you in every way that they can
figure out how to get something from you, until you
learn later in life, either from therapy or from you know,

(01:56:23):
I looked out. I came across a community of people
that recognized the pattern and said, hey, you can tell
people know you know, you can. You can put the
kabash to to behaviors like that. You don't have to
spend all your money on other people, you know, and

(01:56:45):
and end up in trouble financially, you don't have to
have them all your time on other people and end
up in the hospital. Right, And so yeah, becoming a
poly victim is another pattern.

Speaker 4 (01:56:59):
And yes, I'm gonna get highly controversial now on both
sides of the aisle, But yes, maybe this does apply
to some of the quote unquote fighting age men who
are being rushed out of these third world countries into
these western countries. And yes, a lot of them do

(01:57:19):
seem to be quite rapy. But how many of us
have asked why these men are being executed from these
countries in the first place. And yes, maybe it's because
they're a very rapi, But how did they become so
rapi in the first place?

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
And then you have to ask how did they become
so rapi in the first person?

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
You might say it's because of their cultures, it's a
culture in which men are naturally taught to be rapy.

Speaker 2 (01:57:45):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
And who teaches them that?

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
Indeed, who rapes them into that? But then you have
to ask the question of is it possible that third
world women are quite rapy?

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:57:59):
No, third world women are his total victims in the
third World. It is only women who get raped. No, No,
Heavens to Betsy, No, women never rape men in the
Third World. That would no known guests. Yes, I mean no,
I mean yes, I mean yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
There was a thread on Twitter a while back. I
think I talked about this last week too, where a
bunch of guys talked about the fact that their first
experience was a woman forcing themselves, forcing herself on. And
we're talking their first experience being when they were under
age junior high high school, early high school, and a

(01:58:39):
significant portion of the thread, the comments in the thread
from guys who had some story or another of a
woman who was old enough to be their grandmother or
their you know, their their mom's older sister imposing herself
on when they were that age to teach them how

(01:59:03):
to be a man. A lot of them were black,
a lot of them were African actually, and because of
the dominance of stories from black African men and black
American men in that thread. Twitter deleted it. This was

(01:59:24):
before Musk. Before Musk, by the way, can be abbreviated BM,
just like Bowel Movement, and Twitter was shit before Musk.
But that that thread, I had my attention drawn to
it when it was just starting out, and I just
kept I would think. I got to the end of
the posts and it, you know, you read these guys'
experiences and it's just heartbreaking and you won't, you know,

(01:59:47):
like I'm in tears reading this post, and I'm like, geez,
I can't believe how many this there are here, and
your fresh the page and there's more, and there's there
kept being more and more until you couldn't even trace
the thread back up to the original post where one
guy told the story and stated as suspicion was more

(02:00:11):
common than people thought, and then asked in yeah, it
was a hell of a thread and it was a
hell of a wake up call. I didn't realize it
happened that much to boys. I didn't realize it happened
that much to other girls, much less that it happened
that much to boys. And here it looks like it's

(02:00:33):
a lot more common for boys, because there is there's
never a misconception that a thirteen year old girl is
being done a favor by an adult who takes sexual
advantage of her. Nobody, at least in the US, nobody
argues that a thirteen year old girl is better off

(02:00:57):
because some forty year old guy raped. Nobody makes that argument,
but they do when it's a thirteen year old boy
and a forty year old woman, and that's disgusting, and
make that argument.

Speaker 4 (02:01:13):
It's normalized, and it goes beyond the West that we'd
like to talk. This is why we at Honeybags Radio
are fighting such an uphill battle, because it's because it
goes beyond the left and the right here in the West.
The left like to argue that straight whit it says
men are the ones who rape everyone, and on the

(02:01:36):
right they like to argue that it's just the foreign
men who rape everyone. But in all cases it's it's
men are the problem and women are the victims. And
we're we're like, you're saying, you know, it's actually all
over the world in which male victims are overlooked and

(02:01:59):
a female victim.

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
Are female perpetrators or overlook.

Speaker 4 (02:02:03):
It's just generally assumed that all victims of sexual assault
or any kind of assault females. And that is perhaps
why millions of men are being ejected from the Third World,
because in the Third World they don't give a shit
about men either, especially not the men who have been

(02:02:27):
raped by women.

Speaker 3 (02:02:28):
What surely no Third World men would get raped by women.

Speaker 4 (02:02:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, actually yes, this is a worldwide problem.
It's not just in the West, not just because we've
become a decadent society that can afford to give women
all of these secessions as to being the only victims.

Speaker 3 (02:02:50):
Now, it's the same in the third one.

Speaker 4 (02:02:52):
No matter how poor a society or a country is,
there is this tendency to assume that all women are
victims and all men are perpetrators. And if a man
becomes a perpetrator, it can't possibly be because he is
the victim of a woman. Dare I say women. I

(02:03:12):
know it's hard to even talk about women as a
collective in the Third World, as a collective that is
in any way responsible for any of these atrocities. But
this is the double edged sword of ideologies and religions.
Are any given ideology. Either more decadent any given society

(02:03:32):
or religion becomes the more they tend to apply these
victim mentalities to whoever they are designed, not necessarily evolutionarily designed,
but societally designed to apply these victim mentalities. And yet
it's so often a shortcoming of the right as well

(02:03:55):
as the left, to assume that in these Third World countries,
in these far away countries, it's men oppressing women from
the top to the bottom, from from the political level
at the top to the domestic level at the bottom,
that it's that in some way it's men oppressing women.

Speaker 3 (02:04:12):
It's men who rape women.

Speaker 4 (02:04:14):
But yeah, this is this is why we remain at
the bottom of the pecking order, folks, because we're here
letting you know that even in the dustiest parts of
the Third World, there are men getting raped by women.
They are especially boys getting raped by women. And those
boys are the ones who develop these anti social tendencies,

(02:04:40):
these criminal tendencies, and those boys become the men who
those Third world societies.

Speaker 3 (02:04:49):
Don't want anymore.

Speaker 4 (02:04:50):
And so those men are the ones who get put
on the boats. Well, those men are the ones who
look for the boat so that they can go to
other countries.

Speaker 1 (02:05:01):
It's a little bit close. They gotta they want to
escape and their country wants to get rid of them.
Just like when the US had that one foot on
the beach policy for Cuban refugees, that if they got
one foot on the beach, you know, they were able
to stay or at least apply for asylum. Then then

(02:05:23):
Castro emptied out his prison in his mental institutions of
mostly men that were in one way or another dysfunctional,
and put them on boats and sent them here. And
so in addition to actual refugees from Cuba, we got
those people.

Speaker 4 (02:05:43):
So yeah, the the miss Andrei problem, gentleman, is not
limited to our own society. It is global, and it's
largely because I don't want to blame the West for everything,
but the fact that the West has inflicted this.

Speaker 3 (02:05:58):
Decadency on everyone. I mean, for the same.

Speaker 4 (02:06:02):
Reason the reason Indians keep dumping so much plastic in
the River Ganges, it is because the West has supplied
them with so much plastic. That's not to say the
Indians are blameless and all these things. They're just they
weren't ready for the idea that they would have a civilization.

(02:06:24):
I covered in so much plastic.

Speaker 3 (02:06:26):
The West knew how to deal with the plastic in
the first place, because they had these ways of disposing
of it.

Speaker 4 (02:06:35):
Recycling it perhaps, and there's a whole other fucking sorry
about how recycling doesn't work. But in the same way,
the East wasn't prepared to deal with the feminist bullshit
that was inflicted.

Speaker 3 (02:06:51):
Upon them by the West.

Speaker 4 (02:06:53):
And yeah, we've done it best to just eject ourselves
from the East when they said, no, we don't want
you any more British Empire. We want to be independent,
and we went all right bye, And yes we did.
We did extract most of our culture from these places,
but we left the feminism there. The few people that
we left there to try and to try and be peacemakers,

(02:07:17):
alas most of them stayed there trying to enact what
they thought was the best part of the West, And
what they thought that was the best part of the
West was the feminism and the producing endless amounts of
disposable plastic. The the line of comparison I'm trying to
draw the third World East didn't know how to how
to deal with plastic, and they didn't know how to

(02:07:40):
deal with feminism. They took it too far, and that's
what we need to attract, right, that's what we need.
That's that's what we really need to decolonize. Right when
it comes to India and Africa and all these other
places we we we've we've spent a century or so
saying sorry for applying all the things that we applied,

(02:08:03):
but we need to start saying sorry for all the plastic.

Speaker 3 (02:08:07):
I'm sorry for all the feminism. I'm sorry for all
the democracy.

Speaker 4 (02:08:12):
That's feminism hit for any of this feminism hit.

Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
Yeah, feminism hit India like a dirty bomb. It what
it did there is so bad that like the the
the rate at which men in India are committing suicide
to get away from it is horrendous, that's absolutely insane.

(02:08:43):
Like the last number I saw was something like one
man every eight seconds and just which is just an
appalling idea, but it's it's had two specific effects. One
of them one of them is the breakup of marriages
and families and the other one is the withholding of

(02:09:05):
food from men in poverty situation that both of those
are incredibly dire because the way the families are breaking up.
Their anti dowry law was written in such a way
that entire families are getting jailed on false allegations. And
in terms of you know, abuse, because women are able
to obtain money and obtain property by leveling dowry abuse allegations,

(02:09:31):
there's a high rate of false allegations. And then they're
also able to do that and families are able to
get compensation for leveling rape allegations. So if a family
has a particular marriage planned for their daughter and she
runs off with some other guy, they just level a
rape allegation to get her back and they and they

(02:09:54):
get they get her back, and they can go after
the guy for compensation even if he isn't criminally charged.
And so they have a rate of false rape allegations
in India that is somewhere between sixty five percent of
allegations and eighty five percent of allegations being false. And

(02:10:20):
the reason that there's that that fan is that twenty
percent of allegations are accounted for by parents making the
allegations an objection to elopements and so and and there's
there's another phenomenon there women making allegations of rape because

(02:10:42):
of breach of promise to marry and so a guy
they feel that a guy should marry them, whether whether
he's promised to or not, and they have sexual with them,
thinking that it's going to cement the relationship and that's
going to make him marry them, and then he doesn't,
and then they file a rape charge and guys have

(02:11:03):
trouble defending themselves against that, and so what ends up
happening then is, you know, men are in are committing
suicide over being falsely accused and having their families go
through everything that they go through because of it. And
you know, it doesn't help that it's India is an
honor culture in that a man who is accused of

(02:11:25):
something like that will get dragged out of his home
by his neighbors and beaten to death. Though it is
a hell of a situation.

Speaker 3 (02:11:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
And the way that they've handled the issue of breach
of promise to marry leading to so many false rape
allegations is that they I understand correctly, they've passed the
law now that if you promise to marry in order
to get sex and then you don't marry, then that's
rape in India now, so that they won't be labeled

(02:11:56):
false rape accusers when that happens. But I don't know
if the woman has to actually prove or not that
there was a promise, because a lot of women do
this thing right where they assume, and if the guy
isn't on the same page, then he's broken a promise
that he didn't even make. But with that, I think

(02:12:18):
I'm gonna have to end it because it's almost ten o'clock.
It's it's actually nine thirty seven right now, which is
pretty late for Brian to keep doing this, and we
still have quite a bit of this article to go,
so we're not going to finish it today. So we'll
start with talking about the digital spaces, and I'm sure

(02:12:40):
we'll probably have a lot to say about that next week.
In the meantime, I do not see any super anything,
no super chest, no superchows, and no rumble rants that
we're paid. But I'm going to read off of Superchow
from a previous show. Richard Bierre, who at that time
gave us five dollars, said what do you get for

(02:13:00):
the woman who has everything and marketting back to the
beginning of our show, his answer is penicillin. Oh there
you go, but a and that's that's the sad truth.
Like in today's situation, penicillin might not do any good.
So thanks guys for going going through this with me
and the great discussion. And it may have wandered, but

(02:13:23):
it wandered in ways that I think are very important
to discuss. So that was good. And thanks everybody for listening,
and thanks to everybody who works in the background and
make HBr talk happen, especially Brian who has gone the
extra mile to make sure that we can have the
vertical YouTube channel and YouTube chat cat idle word.

Speaker 7 (02:13:44):
Men's Right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
deal with, especially if you have like especially if you
have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
On top of that too, holy shit, you're fuck

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