November 11, 2025 • 25 mins
Anthony’s memoir “Moon Child” has sparked genuine conversations among readers touched by his willingness to talk about the aftermath of serving in special operations aviation. His recounting of the 2018 Jolly Green Rescue Mission of the Year and the journey through addiction and healing has resonated with veterans and civilians alike, especially those seeking to understand the realities behind service and recovery. Anthony continues to be an advocate for mental health and a voice for those carrying invisible wounds. Moon Child is available on Amazon.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to another edition that in between the pages of
James Lott Jr. You know who I am. I'm James
Flat Junior and I love reading. You know that already here.
I support authors of all kinds, especially indie authors. But
also this is an author who's also a veteran. And
you know I say this all the time. I come
from a veteran family. Myself. I didn't serve myself, but
anybody who serves to me deserves whatever they need, what
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they need for me. If that's helping promote a book,
I'm gonna promote a book by a veteran. So I'm
very excited about that. And his book is good, folks,
It's a page turner, and it's good and such about
all kinds stuff. I'm gonna read a piece of his bio.
Uh and he can correct me if I'm wrong. But
he was in a special shops aviation for the Air
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Force Combat Special Missions aviators. I mean he flying all
all this stuff and all that kind of stuff he was.
He also got an award so Air Force Jolly Green
Rescue Mission of the Year War in twenty eighteen. What's
talk about that a little bit? And the book talks
about all kind of stuff in there too, but also
he talks about some tender things like meaning having love
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in there. I didn't expect that when I read the book. Okay,
so it's it's it feels like a conversation, you guys,
And now we're going to have a conversation with it's author,
no one who lived the story, Anthony Dyer.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hi, Anthony, Hey James, thanks for having me. It's honored
to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's my pleasure to have you on here to you
and again, thank you for your services. Well, I do
before I get into the book. So this is all
part of the book. I want people to read the book.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Book.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We I gonna tell everything is in the book. I
want people to read it and check it out. But
when you look back when you were writing this, and
you look back at your time in the service, do
you still feel it was a good idea to go
into the service?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I really do? You know? I think you know when
I hit that, you know the ultimate basically the dad
talk he gave me when I was eighteen, and you know,
time to get a job, go to college, you get
out out and basically that forking road to make a
decision and if anything. It gave me the opportunity to
make a decision and stick with it to get through
something hard, right, And you know, that's sort of a
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I've learned a lot about perseverance, you know, through the
service itself and just I've been to some good places,
bad places, good people, bad people. But at the end, man,
I wouldn't trade any of those moments for people, for
for anything in the world.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So would you encourage someone who's on that cusp of
life of like, Okay, I I don't want to go
to college, I don't. I don't If I want, I don't.
If I go to trade school, I don't know if
I can go to where I would you encourage someone
to say, well, maybe check out the enforces?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I would say one hundred percent. Yeah, if you definitely
want to travel the world and you know, and to
to you know, like I said in the book There
Live a House, Money life, take that chance. You know.
I saw quote the other day and it was something
to the effect of like, I don't know if I
agree with it, but like, you know, nine to fives,
how to go nine to fives are basically, like, you know,
built by not taking chances, you know, But but legacy
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is is taking a chance, you know what I mean,
that's how Empires builds, what they were saying. But yeah,
I think that taking that chance, you know, getting out
in the open, test your metal, you know, you know,
get out of your you know, the culture that we
all grew up in and see different cultures, different people.
It's all parts of the world, you know, and there's
there's good and bad with that and and they both
stay with you, I'll say that. But yeah, it's definitely
good learning experience.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So well, yeah, in the book you talk about something
you've had some rest of heroing experiences. But for you, you
grew up in the mountains Appilation, right, I did. Yeah,
so you had a chance to really see the world.
I mean, like, did you ever think growing up that
you would see the world? I mean, because you grew
up in such a very kind of unique area of America.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, I never liked, like, growing up, thought I would,
you know, I thought I was going to be there
and the you know, the appellations of wester North Carolina
for you know, the rest of my life, you know,
and and I sort of get into that, you know,
they get to the point in my career where you know.
I look, I was at home on leave actually, and
I see the same cracks in the road as well,
I call it, and I was like, man, like, there's
so much more to life and these cracks. And you know,
I decided, man, I don't want to leave cracks. I
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want to leave Creators. And that's when I decided to
start flying on the Mighty you know, a two and
thirty gun ship and the assisting Special Operations Squad, and
it definitely gave me the opportunity to leave Creators. And
you know, in the end, you know, you can't take
nothing with you when we passed, right, And the only
thing I believe you can truly leave behind is how
how you how you're measured, how people view your your footprint, right,
And so legacy is always since that point played a
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big part of my decisions and why we do what
we do.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I agree with that. I'm I'm thinking about legacy now
the things that I do on these shows. And I
have kids and grandkids, and so I'm already thinking my
grandkids see me online, they see me doing it depends
on stories like this. I'm showing them that there's like
there's a story out there. It's really good and it's serious,
and there's other options of life. And I think about
legacy all the time too. What we leave behind, right,
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it's how you make it's how you make people feel.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
That's oh yeah, yeah yeah. And the material things of life,
you know, like the I think I put that quote
in the book there there's no there's no U haul
or you haul behind the hers, right, you know what,
I'm taking any of this with us, so so leave
that footprint, leave those creators. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I like some nice stuff every once in a while.
But the point is, but you know what I mean,
we have to live a little bit, right. But I
but I agree with you. I'm being funny, but I
agree with you completely that all this stuff, you don't
have your health, you don't have family or friends, and
it means nothing. It really means And you were in
some stuff that you saw firsthand teamwork, I mean life
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and death. I mean you saw things that were teamwork.
When you is enough question? Can you talked about this
in a book a little bit too? When you're in it,
I know, because you're you're in it. You're in it, right,
so it's now you're looking back and stuff. But I
was just I think do you look back and go, Wow,
I was in some I was always in these situations
that could have turned sour or or gone south, but
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you survived. So how does that how does that feel
to you now looking back?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, I actually have this this conversation that got brought up,
the guardian angel concept got brought up the other day,
and you know, I think about these moments, right, you know,
when it's like like this is it right? You're seeing
trades and fires, you know, both ways, and you're landing
on this dirt road and you know, praying to God
that you know, everybody gets out of it, you know,
and it's it's just it's a leap of blind faith,
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you know. And to to me, really living is getting
to that point where you have to have that just
that leap of like, hey, everything's going to be okay,
We're going to get through this. To me, you know,
that's what sort of like the term touch in the
face of God is, and it's about really just being
your you know, your your very best on the worst
day of your life, you know. And and with that,
like you said, teamwork, your brothers and sisters it they
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get you through it. And then when that does settles.
You know, I've come to find too, they also get
you through it. Then you know that support network, your family,
your friends, and your faith. Right, So yeah, I've learned
a lot in that aspect from from those situations. Uh,
you know that God in life, you know, put me in.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So he talks about in the book, folks talks about
the book. That's what I'm kind of asking, which you
guys would read the stories he's telling because it's very
I guess it's like a conversation, like you're talking to
us for a couple of hours. That's how you feel
like it is, which I love. I love books like that.
So I'm like, oh, this is guy, like you're talking
to us when when you talk about you know, teamwork.
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And I guess because I always wonder how that is
because you have to be positive on some level, because
you can't be negative in those situations because they get
you killed. But then also you gotta be realistic, So
I always wonder. I always just wonder how I spend
a nurse. So I understand that in certain situations I've
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had patience, was it was life or death? I understand,
But you know, you said, there's fire happening on both sides.
You're there for a certain mission, you're trying to survive
that plus finish your mission, plus look out for your
fellow compositives out there. As that made you like a
more well rounded multitasking kind of person, is you're like,
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you have to like all these different things at the
same time.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, it definitely as far as multitasking, you know, in
that aspect of Loane, you know, it draws my wife
crazy sometimes because there could be like, you know, five
different conversations happening, and you know, just listening to the
radios flying you learn to pick up on what's important,
right and you know, what's the meat and the potatoes,
what's what's the overall end game of this subjective? You know,
and you pick up on that stuff. And and as
far as the people you're you're doing these missions with,
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you know, and and and friends, you know, like, uh,
you're surrounded by you like I say, your four quarters,
not your hundred pennies, you know, and basically yet you
trust each other with your best friend's life. Is the
only way I can really describe that level of trust.
And and just uh, you know again that blind faith
in each other as well as you know, the higher
being that that that you're going to get through this.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, well was that we have to ask? I mean,
was there was there a time you thought, how if
I can do the same more? I don't like, I'm
sure for some low some low points in there you're
just thinking how do I just like and obviously you
relied on you said, your faith, you're friends and family.
How'd you get through that?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah? So I was on a this is when I
was in the helicopter of the rescue mission side of things.
It was eight June of twenty eighteen, and I always
tell people, you know, we saw the best side of
combat search and rescue that day, on the worst side,
meaning we saved you know, five guys and then one eagle,
one American you know, when he got back to operating
table unfortunately passed away. And you know, I just you
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get to that point where like your your sense of purpose,
you're why, you know, like your whole model for that
mission is these things we do that others may live.
And when that you know, it's not what you do
in life. The haunts is what you don't do. But
then you know you realize, look, okay, like this is
a very traumatic event, you know, and your friends start
to see the impacts, your family started to see the impacts,
and that you know, it's okay to not be okay
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after something like that in two decades of ward and
being in a trauma feel like a nurse, firefighter or
something like that. But you know, it's you have to
get that point where you have to take that tactical
knee and realize, like, man, like I need to get
this right, you know, so I can heal and basically, uh,
you know, move on.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So, yeah, it's very true. I know people asked me
when I first start, I was in the er and
so you know, you see everything right, and so I
remember saying, well, how do you do it that you
just do it? Something just kicks in, your training kicks in, whatever,
just kicks in, and you just do it. So I'm
assuming you're training, you have training, hopefully you paid attention.
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You know, you know, you know what to do. Plus
just I'm sure just instinct comes in too, right at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Right, Oh yeah, and uh, you know it's it's funny
mentioned the training part kicking in because I remember, like,
you know, I I'll sort of go over the first
minute of that flight. You know, we scrambled to the
helicopter and we take off and we're in the right
hand bank. So the left gunner had what we call
runaway gun. We're basically it's you know, it's mechanically firing
just out of control. It's hitting the ground, you know,
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because of a warren Seer knots. And then I pulled
our our chaff in flare pins which protects us to
get service to air missiles, and we jettisoned all of
our flares, you know, hundreds of flares going out, these
fireballs that you know protect us, and I can literally
feel that he from it. And then you know, then
the the comms is chaos, is organized chaos that's going on,
and I'm trying to you know, see what's really going
on and get the information I need, and uh, you know,
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it gets to a point where I'm like, literally, what
what the f is going on? You know? And but yeah,
that but then you're like, Okay, the training kicks and
I've been here before through repetition, you know, through this
is what everything I've trained Ford brought me to this moment,
and it kicks in and you adorenaline comes down a
little bit and you almost turned into like a robot,
you know. And what's that saying, you know, reaction versus responding,
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right that that that's a real thing in combat and
the you know, the fog of war and things like
that and these type of jobs.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Right, yes, you know, I'm looking for the stuff that
you talked about, and it's all it's all foreign to me.
I have no clue. I'm like, wow, that just sounds
amazing to me. I don't even know what that all means.
But I like medio. I like hearing about it. I
just love hearing about it because I just feel like
you're doing something that many of us don't do, and
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others who are watching who have done it also will
be like, yeah, I always talk about it. I know
he gets it, and I just think that we you know,
just it's just me saying this, and I'll get to
play called these shows. But I just for me, you
did something that was so I mean, it was so
incredible that it should be celebrated. It should be not.
I'm glad you're telling that. You decided to tell some
of these stories because you're one of millions out there
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who have stories like this, and others and some didn't
make it, you know, and at least at least you
made it and you're actually shining a light. Was that
part of your your thought as writing this book. It's
a memoir, so you're telling your story's part of your thought,
Like I'm also kind of sharing others experience, kind of
with why I'm telling my story one hundred percent?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, you know, I tell people I wrote it for
really two reasons, you know, and the whole idea of
writing it. I was getting prolonged exposure treatment with a psychiatrist,
but my last year in and she was like, are
you so common psychiatrist? And you know, in the part
of that, you know, exposures, you're writing the story over
and over and over, and you're getting to the root
cause of what causes you know, your PTSD and basically
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get comfortable being uncomfortable. And then, you know, the first
time I told the story, I cried, Like the psychiatrist
she cried as well, you know, and and then she
must have you said one hundred time you should tell
your story, and I said no, you know. And then
when I got out, you know, and I realized, you know,
when you out processed the military, oftentimes there's this door
right where like there's no door handle on the other side,
so you can walk out, but you can't really get
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back in. And you know, and I thought about it.
You know, if if I do tell these stories right,
it does two things. That shows the rest of America. Hey,
this is what goes on when you're sleeping, and you know,
the realm of special operations and stuff like that. And also,
you know, if one person gets help from the story,
then that's a blessing. That's a win, you know, and
so and basically it's it's saying, hey, it's okay to
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if you have words in your heart and you need
to bleed them on a page, do it like it's
it's part of healing, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well. Number one, congratulations for your fair Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's a first. Men, it's hard for us to talk
about stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It really is. Yeah, you know, I went in there
with a chip on my shoulder. I don't ever forget me.
I'm like, what does this lady know about you know,
combat and all this stuff, you know, And then she
gave me the cliche analogy of like, you know, you
wouldn't go to a dentist to fix your car, right,
and it made sense though the time, really good. I was, okay,
I get it, you know, car, I'd be a.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Good mechanic at the same time, all right. But that's yeah.
But but just again, for people out there, you know,
there's a lot of PTSD, A lots of it goes
on because you're seeing. If you're a veteran and in combat,
you've seen things that I mean you probably shouldn't have seen.
So you gotta deal with it. I mean, like you
said earlier, it sticks with you. You just say, it
just sticks with you. Nobody's fault. It just sticks with you.
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So you gotta get it out somehow so you don't
hurt the people, hurt yourself. So I want to say
it again, I'm glad that I just congratulated for doing
that because I know a lot of veterans come out
and it's like now what they've always right.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, one hundred. That sense of identity, that's that's a
real thing when you get out, you know, some of
these jobs, and you know, in a way I had
to sort of like, you know, get over myself a
little bit and realize, hey, this this thing, this machine
keeps going right, and and I always always tell this
to everyone, you know, whether when you're in these type
of jobs, right and veteran first responders that you know,
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nurses right like you, we're very normal men and women
doing very abnormal, unordered, ext ary things, you know, So
it's almost it's not if it's when you're gonna need
that that tactical pause and you know, and just get
it right. You know.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, definitely, I think that's wonderful. You also talk about
something that I'm scared for saying because I just didn't
expect this am part of the book. It's very sweet,
talks about falling alive, having a kid, you know, like
it's it's I was like, oh, there we go, because
we're the first have a kind of we're rooting for you.
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When you just talk about growing up, it's about growing
in combat and there's still some combats, there's still some
talk later in but just like then, all of a sudden,
there's this whole thing about meeting your partner and it's
very cute. So I'm like, again as a man, when
I used to talk about that, either we know all these
we a'll just express that, so please talk about that
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, So I was joking to there and my wife
I was like, yeah, I used to be a hopeless romantic.
Now I'm just not as hopeless, you know. But uh yeah,
so my uh my wife. So, first of all, I
grew up in western North Carolina, which is in a
town that was adjacent, very close to the Eastern Band
of Cherokee the nation there, and uh, you know, so
I got to grow up as a beautiful culture, Native
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American culture, and I've always been intrigued by, you know,
just the perseverance, the you know, the beautiful dances and
all these different traditional things that you know that really
opened up my eyes to a lot of different actually
a lot of healing and uh was part of that.
But yeah, and then I get to eastern New Mexico.
My wife's from the Navajo Nation, and you know, uh,
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there's the shows it's south. It's called Reservation Dogs. Uh,
there's a character on there called Willie Jack. And there's
some common phrases that I would often hear even growing up.
It was like like this short scote in like, which
means let's go then, you know, a slang type thing.
And you know, we were playing basketball one day and
I just got back from an deployment, and you know,
probably a couple of days before that, if that, and
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maybe a theay. But like I realized that, you know, hey,
she has some native you know features, and I've noticed
some some language and some some slang that's haven't heard
that a long time, you know. And I asked her
if you know, are you native? And we were on
this bridge, walking across from the gym to the other
side of where her college was easter eating and you there,
and at that moment she smiled and said, yeah, And
I just knew at that moment, you know, you know,
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my wife's my rocks. She's been with me ever since,
you know, and I love you know, she makes a
lot of pottery and stuff like that, and just her
culture and just she even speaks an Ava whole language,
and it's a beautiful, beautiful thing, you know, it's almost
like the language of love itself, you know. But yeah,
she had me from the get gods and the friends
on a little bit. So man, you know, if you're
out there, you eventually climb out of it, you know,
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So just just just keep trying persistence, right, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Women are a little different, they be a little let's go
safe and secure right, and then it's not sure about
this man come in here doing that, and I just
I just have to stay on the side note because
I'm part of Cherokee and I know my grandmother's want
of reservation, so I know about that. And then there's
and I'm glad you said there's some There is some
beautiful stuff and healing things that go on a lot
of these native cultures. Restaurant Dogs Trunks is a shell
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that sought FX. It's really was really good and it
was done by Native people. There's a couple of shows
out there, one called North of North. It's also about
Native people in that in Alaska, and there's some great
shows out there. Just a little side note, folks, But
I did. But I love that you that you were
able to because I said, reading your story, it was
very cute. It was like it was like, okay, we're
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going from like this raw you know, guns blazing over
here to now I have a wife. You know, my
child is born as a father myself, I know exactly.
I follow with my child through. The child was Barsaw
and write a love. They placed her in my hands.
I was always telling her they placed it in my hands.
That was it. I was right what you sold to you?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh yeah, yeah. But you know, I tell people, I've
I've had many call signs, you know, throughout my career,
you know, like Uncle Tito was one of them, for example,
and just different names and like like BDA stuff like that,
and you know, I tell people, the best one I
ever had was when she called me dad. You know
that's a you know, get tear thinking about it, but yeah,
just it's a beautiful thing to have a kid, and
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it's a blessing. Man.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
So yeah, it's I I say, we're in here. We're
not gonna cry funks, We're man. Yeah, yeah, no, I know,
I get no, I know said I and my daughter.
Her birthday is actually this weekend as we're recording this,
and I'm gonna go see it's awesome. Yeah. I can't
beieve she's thirty eight years old. I don't know how
that happened. I'm only forty, so I don't know how
that happened, and which I was forty not forty anymore.
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But I just I just I look at it. I
got I still remember that baby. I just remember that baby.
I got imber that little girl, and it's like, dang,
you're growing kids of your own. They're like, oh yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, I think that's part of you know, my I
remember one point, like the psychiatrists even tell me, like,
you know, like all this is ending right your service
and you know, flying on the gun ship all this stuff,
you know, and basically like she's like, you need to
change what your legacy is now, right, Like you know
to me what that means, what she was saying is
like I get it now. I was like being the
best father I could be, Being the best husband I
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could be, you know, be the best parent I could be,
you know, just be trying to be a decent person
through all this, you know, And to me that that's
what matters. Now. That's my that's my job, you know,
is being a dad. Arm percent I said, so good.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
So where so I'm gonna ask you this, how are
you doing today?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I'm doing I'm doing really well, you know, every day,
you know, every night, and I look in at that
accountability mirror and I'm like, I can answer that question,
hated I was I the best person I could be? Today?
Was the best father husband? Did I drink today? You know?
I pick up a bottle, I pick up her pen,
you know, And that's a lot of what writing does
is you know, when I get that orge to drink,
you know, if you've ever had that bug, I feel
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for you. Addiction is a serious thing. But you I
feel like I'm a better man for picking up that
pen over that bottle like that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But a pan, you know, mightier than the story. I
always say something I'm thinking, and I think you know,
because you coming where you come from, your mind has
been expanded, which is a great That's always a great thing.
I mean, you've seen the world. You can talk about
the world at large, not just a little slow you know.
If a lot of folks have a little area, you know,
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and that's it. You can say I've been I've been
places around the world that you may have not been to.
I can tell you all about them and cultures. And
I'm asking you, what is money? This is told, this
is totally fluffy, but leaving your area and experiencing food
from all kinds of cultures. What is your favorite food
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these days?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Like so, my my favorite food is crab legs. I've
always loved crab legs. You know, Uh, we didn't have
a lot of it grown up in the mountains. But
like every now and then, yeah, yeah, we you know,
we go to the beach and you know it would
go tdy somewhere, you know, being in the ocean right
and it's crab legs. Man. I love them, man, for
whatever reason, you know, they're good.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I like it. I like them. So of course we
know about crab leggs. Yeah, man, uh, but I like that.
I like crab legs. I'm just saying, like, like my
mother said, when she grew up in a place where
she grew up, there's certain things they didn't eat. It
just wasn't there. So was it just left her home
town and one other places she tasted other things. So
I'm just kind of curious, if you know, what are
your things that one fight his favorite food of Filipino food.
(22:28):
He left where you're from and that's his favorite food.
Like so it's kind of I think it's fun to
go out and try other things like self shellfish or
it's fun.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, And there's I mean, there's some really good contenders there.
I've had, you know, talking about the Filipino food. The Olympia,
my one of my one of my best friend's wife
is is Filipino, and man she makes that for us,
and you know, it's awesome food that And then you know,
I've been to South Korea as well one time and
I had some uh uh, what do you call ba
gogi you know, and beef carby ribs you know, I love,
(23:00):
but man.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Delicious, Oh yeah's good. Graduates from the book, how do
you feel the book being out there? Are you okay
with everything you wrote in the book and it's out
there for everybody to read. That's the heart. You're putting
your heart into this and you're putting it out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
My my publisher actually, well, the first time he read it,
you know, and it was still getting you know, edited
and stuff. He's like, man, you really took the veil off,
you know. And and I figure that that's part of
you know, talking about living the house money life right,
taking chances and being vulnerable, you know, is getting these
words out there. And you know, I feel better. And
there's still points in my life where like, I don't
think it's actually like fully set in yet because I
(23:38):
had an air gunner I used to fly with on
the gun shit, And the other day he's like, hey, man,
do you realize like you have a book published? And
it wasn't what he said, sort of how he said it.
I was like, man, like you know, coming from you
that like, I sort of get it now. I guess
to me it was a big deal, you know, and
it's an exciting experience. I tell people, no matter what's
if you got some of your heart, you know, bleed
it on the page, you'll feel better.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Moonchild a memoir The Roots and Wings of a USAF
Combat Special Missions aviator Anthony Dyer is the author. You
can find it on Amazon, I have Kindle, they have
a paperback. It's good. Get it. Get it. Support, support,
support Anthony, Thank you for being a show.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Thank you. Dam's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Thank you my pleasure. So folks always in the shows
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Welcome to another edition that in between the pages of
James Lott Jr. You know who I am. I'm James
Flat Junior and I love reading. You know that already here.
I support authors of all kinds, especially indie authors. But
also this is an author who's also a veteran. And
you know I say this all the time. I come
from a veteran family. Myself. I didn't serve myself, but
anybody who serves to me deserves whatever they need, what
(00:26):
they need for me. If that's helping promote a book,
I'm gonna promote a book by a veteran. So I'm
very excited about that. And his book is good, folks,
It's a page turner, and it's good and such about
all kinds stuff. I'm gonna read a piece of his bio.
Uh and he can correct me if I'm wrong. But
he was in a special shops aviation for the Air
(00:47):
Force Combat Special Missions aviators. I mean he flying all
all this stuff and all that kind of stuff he was.
He also got an award so Air Force Jolly Green
Rescue Mission of the Year War in twenty eighteen. What's
talk about that a little bit? And the book talks
about all kind of stuff in there too, but also
he talks about some tender things like meaning having love
(01:10):
in there. I didn't expect that when I read the book. Okay,
so it's it's it feels like a conversation, you guys,
And now we're going to have a conversation with it's author,
no one who lived the story, Anthony Dyer.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hi, Anthony, Hey James, thanks for having me. It's honored
to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's my pleasure to have you on here to you
and again, thank you for your services. Well, I do
before I get into the book. So this is all
part of the book. I want people to read the book.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Book.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We I gonna tell everything is in the book. I
want people to read it and check it out. But
when you look back when you were writing this, and
you look back at your time in the service, do
you still feel it was a good idea to go
into the service?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I really do? You know? I think you know when
I hit that, you know the ultimate basically the dad
talk he gave me when I was eighteen, and you know,
time to get a job, go to college, you get
out out and basically that forking road to make a
decision and if anything. It gave me the opportunity to
make a decision and stick with it to get through
something hard, right, And you know, that's sort of a
(02:10):
I've learned a lot about perseverance, you know, through the
service itself and just I've been to some good places,
bad places, good people, bad people. But at the end, man,
I wouldn't trade any of those moments for people, for
for anything in the world.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So would you encourage someone who's on that cusp of
life of like, Okay, I I don't want to go
to college, I don't. I don't If I want, I don't.
If I go to trade school, I don't know if
I can go to where I would you encourage someone
to say, well, maybe check out the enforces?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I would say one hundred percent. Yeah, if you definitely
want to travel the world and you know, and to
to you know, like I said in the book There
Live a House, Money life, take that chance. You know.
I saw quote the other day and it was something
to the effect of like, I don't know if I
agree with it, but like, you know, nine to fives,
how to go nine to fives are basically, like, you know,
built by not taking chances, you know, But but legacy
(03:01):
is is taking a chance, you know what I mean,
that's how Empires builds, what they were saying. But yeah,
I think that taking that chance, you know, getting out
in the open, test your metal, you know, you know,
get out of your you know, the culture that we
all grew up in and see different cultures, different people.
It's all parts of the world, you know, and there's
there's good and bad with that and and they both
stay with you, I'll say that. But yeah, it's definitely
good learning experience.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So well, yeah, in the book you talk about something
you've had some rest of heroing experiences. But for you, you
grew up in the mountains Appilation, right, I did. Yeah,
so you had a chance to really see the world.
I mean, like, did you ever think growing up that
you would see the world? I mean, because you grew
up in such a very kind of unique area of America.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, I never liked, like, growing up, thought I would,
you know, I thought I was going to be there
and the you know, the appellations of wester North Carolina
for you know, the rest of my life, you know,
and and I sort of get into that, you know,
they get to the point in my career where you know.
I look, I was at home on leave actually, and
I see the same cracks in the road as well,
I call it, and I was like, man, like, there's
so much more to life and these cracks. And you know,
I decided, man, I don't want to leave cracks. I
(04:03):
want to leave Creators. And that's when I decided to
start flying on the Mighty you know, a two and
thirty gun ship and the assisting Special Operations Squad, and
it definitely gave me the opportunity to leave Creators. And
you know, in the end, you know, you can't take
nothing with you when we passed, right, And the only
thing I believe you can truly leave behind is how
how you how you're measured, how people view your your footprint, right,
And so legacy is always since that point played a
(04:24):
big part of my decisions and why we do what
we do.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I agree with that. I'm I'm thinking about legacy now
the things that I do on these shows. And I
have kids and grandkids, and so I'm already thinking my
grandkids see me online, they see me doing it depends
on stories like this. I'm showing them that there's like
there's a story out there. It's really good and it's serious,
and there's other options of life. And I think about
legacy all the time too. What we leave behind, right,
(04:49):
it's how you make it's how you make people feel.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
That's oh yeah, yeah yeah. And the material things of life,
you know, like the I think I put that quote
in the book there there's no there's no U haul
or you haul behind the hers, right, you know what,
I'm taking any of this with us, so so leave
that footprint, leave those creators. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I like some nice stuff every once in a while.
But the point is, but you know what I mean,
we have to live a little bit, right. But I
but I agree with you. I'm being funny, but I
agree with you completely that all this stuff, you don't
have your health, you don't have family or friends, and
it means nothing. It really means And you were in
some stuff that you saw firsthand teamwork, I mean life
(05:31):
and death. I mean you saw things that were teamwork.
When you is enough question? Can you talked about this
in a book a little bit too? When you're in it,
I know, because you're you're in it. You're in it, right,
so it's now you're looking back and stuff. But I
was just I think do you look back and go, Wow,
I was in some I was always in these situations
that could have turned sour or or gone south, but
(05:56):
you survived. So how does that how does that feel
to you now looking back?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, I actually have this this conversation that got brought up,
the guardian angel concept got brought up the other day,
and you know, I think about these moments, right, you know,
when it's like like this is it right? You're seeing
trades and fires, you know, both ways, and you're landing
on this dirt road and you know, praying to God
that you know, everybody gets out of it, you know,
and it's it's just it's a leap of blind faith,
(06:21):
you know. And to to me, really living is getting
to that point where you have to have that just
that leap of like, hey, everything's going to be okay,
We're going to get through this. To me, you know,
that's what sort of like the term touch in the
face of God is, and it's about really just being
your you know, your your very best on the worst
day of your life, you know. And and with that,
like you said, teamwork, your brothers and sisters it they
(06:42):
get you through it. And then when that does settles.
You know, I've come to find too, they also get
you through it. Then you know that support network, your family,
your friends, and your faith. Right, So yeah, I've learned
a lot in that aspect from from those situations. Uh,
you know that God in life, you know, put me in.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So he talks about in the book, folks talks about
the book. That's what I'm kind of asking, which you
guys would read the stories he's telling because it's very
I guess it's like a conversation, like you're talking to
us for a couple of hours. That's how you feel
like it is, which I love. I love books like that.
So I'm like, oh, this is guy, like you're talking
to us when when you talk about you know, teamwork.
(07:17):
And I guess because I always wonder how that is
because you have to be positive on some level, because
you can't be negative in those situations because they get
you killed. But then also you gotta be realistic, So
I always wonder. I always just wonder how I spend
a nurse. So I understand that in certain situations I've
(07:39):
had patience, was it was life or death? I understand,
But you know, you said, there's fire happening on both sides.
You're there for a certain mission, you're trying to survive
that plus finish your mission, plus look out for your
fellow compositives out there. As that made you like a
more well rounded multitasking kind of person, is you're like,
(08:01):
you have to like all these different things at the
same time.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, it definitely as far as multitasking, you know, in
that aspect of Loane, you know, it draws my wife
crazy sometimes because there could be like, you know, five
different conversations happening, and you know, just listening to the
radios flying you learn to pick up on what's important,
right and you know, what's the meat and the potatoes,
what's what's the overall end game of this subjective? You know,
and you pick up on that stuff. And and as
far as the people you're you're doing these missions with,
(08:26):
you know, and and and friends, you know, like, uh,
you're surrounded by you like I say, your four quarters,
not your hundred pennies, you know, and basically yet you
trust each other with your best friend's life. Is the
only way I can really describe that level of trust.
And and just uh, you know again that blind faith
in each other as well as you know, the higher
being that that that you're going to get through this.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, well was that we have to ask? I mean,
was there was there a time you thought, how if
I can do the same more? I don't like, I'm
sure for some low some low points in there you're
just thinking how do I just like and obviously you
relied on you said, your faith, you're friends and family.
How'd you get through that?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah? So I was on a this is when I
was in the helicopter of the rescue mission side of things.
It was eight June of twenty eighteen, and I always
tell people, you know, we saw the best side of
combat search and rescue that day, on the worst side,
meaning we saved you know, five guys and then one eagle,
one American you know, when he got back to operating
table unfortunately passed away. And you know, I just you
(09:23):
get to that point where like your your sense of purpose,
you're why, you know, like your whole model for that
mission is these things we do that others may live.
And when that you know, it's not what you do
in life. The haunts is what you don't do. But
then you know you realize, look, okay, like this is
a very traumatic event, you know, and your friends start
to see the impacts, your family started to see the impacts,
and that you know, it's okay to not be okay
(09:46):
after something like that in two decades of ward and
being in a trauma feel like a nurse, firefighter or
something like that. But you know, it's you have to
get that point where you have to take that tactical
knee and realize, like, man, like I need to get
this right, you know, so I can heal and basically, uh,
you know, move on.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So, yeah, it's very true. I know people asked me
when I first start, I was in the er and
so you know, you see everything right, and so I
remember saying, well, how do you do it that you
just do it? Something just kicks in, your training kicks in, whatever,
just kicks in, and you just do it. So I'm
assuming you're training, you have training, hopefully you paid attention.
(10:21):
You know, you know, you know what to do. Plus
just I'm sure just instinct comes in too, right at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Right, Oh yeah, and uh, you know it's it's funny
mentioned the training part kicking in because I remember, like,
you know, I I'll sort of go over the first
minute of that flight. You know, we scrambled to the
helicopter and we take off and we're in the right
hand bank. So the left gunner had what we call
runaway gun. We're basically it's you know, it's mechanically firing
just out of control. It's hitting the ground, you know,
(10:47):
because of a warren Seer knots. And then I pulled
our our chaff in flare pins which protects us to
get service to air missiles, and we jettisoned all of
our flares, you know, hundreds of flares going out, these
fireballs that you know protect us, and I can literally
feel that he from it. And then you know, then
the the comms is chaos, is organized chaos that's going on,
and I'm trying to you know, see what's really going
on and get the information I need, and uh, you know,
(11:09):
it gets to a point where I'm like, literally, what
what the f is going on? You know? And but yeah,
that but then you're like, Okay, the training kicks and
I've been here before through repetition, you know, through this
is what everything I've trained Ford brought me to this moment,
and it kicks in and you adorenaline comes down a
little bit and you almost turned into like a robot,
you know. And what's that saying, you know, reaction versus responding,
(11:29):
right that that that's a real thing in combat and
the you know, the fog of war and things like
that and these type of jobs.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Right, yes, you know, I'm looking for the stuff that
you talked about, and it's all it's all foreign to me.
I have no clue. I'm like, wow, that just sounds
amazing to me. I don't even know what that all means.
But I like medio. I like hearing about it. I
just love hearing about it because I just feel like
you're doing something that many of us don't do, and
(11:56):
others who are watching who have done it also will
be like, yeah, I always talk about it. I know
he gets it, and I just think that we you know,
just it's just me saying this, and I'll get to
play called these shows. But I just for me, you
did something that was so I mean, it was so
incredible that it should be celebrated. It should be not.
I'm glad you're telling that. You decided to tell some
of these stories because you're one of millions out there
(12:21):
who have stories like this, and others and some didn't
make it, you know, and at least at least you
made it and you're actually shining a light. Was that
part of your your thought as writing this book. It's
a memoir, so you're telling your story's part of your thought,
Like I'm also kind of sharing others experience, kind of
with why I'm telling my story one hundred percent?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, you know, I tell people I wrote it for
really two reasons, you know, and the whole idea of
writing it. I was getting prolonged exposure treatment with a psychiatrist,
but my last year in and she was like, are
you so common psychiatrist? And you know, in the part
of that, you know, exposures, you're writing the story over
and over and over, and you're getting to the root
cause of what causes you know, your PTSD and basically
(13:03):
get comfortable being uncomfortable. And then, you know, the first
time I told the story, I cried, Like the psychiatrist
she cried as well, you know, and and then she
must have you said one hundred time you should tell
your story, and I said no, you know. And then
when I got out, you know, and I realized, you know,
when you out processed the military, oftentimes there's this door
right where like there's no door handle on the other side,
so you can walk out, but you can't really get
(13:25):
back in. And you know, and I thought about it.
You know, if if I do tell these stories right,
it does two things. That shows the rest of America. Hey,
this is what goes on when you're sleeping, and you know,
the realm of special operations and stuff like that. And also,
you know, if one person gets help from the story,
then that's a blessing. That's a win, you know, and
so and basically it's it's saying, hey, it's okay to
(13:45):
if you have words in your heart and you need
to bleed them on a page, do it like it's
it's part of healing, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well. Number one, congratulations for your fair Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's a first. Men, it's hard for us to talk
about stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It really is. Yeah, you know, I went in there
with a chip on my shoulder. I don't ever forget me.
I'm like, what does this lady know about you know,
combat and all this stuff, you know, And then she
gave me the cliche analogy of like, you know, you
wouldn't go to a dentist to fix your car, right,
and it made sense though the time, really good. I was, okay,
I get it, you know, car, I'd be a.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Good mechanic at the same time, all right. But that's yeah.
But but just again, for people out there, you know,
there's a lot of PTSD, A lots of it goes
on because you're seeing. If you're a veteran and in combat,
you've seen things that I mean you probably shouldn't have seen.
So you gotta deal with it. I mean, like you
said earlier, it sticks with you. You just say, it
just sticks with you. Nobody's fault. It just sticks with you.
(14:42):
So you gotta get it out somehow so you don't
hurt the people, hurt yourself. So I want to say
it again, I'm glad that I just congratulated for doing
that because I know a lot of veterans come out
and it's like now what they've always right.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, one hundred. That sense of identity, that's that's a
real thing when you get out, you know, some of
these jobs, and you know, in a way I had
to sort of like, you know, get over myself a
little bit and realize, hey, this this thing, this machine
keeps going right, and and I always always tell this
to everyone, you know, whether when you're in these type
of jobs, right and veteran first responders that you know,
(15:16):
nurses right like you, we're very normal men and women
doing very abnormal, unordered, ext ary things, you know, So
it's almost it's not if it's when you're gonna need
that that tactical pause and you know, and just get
it right. You know.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, definitely, I think that's wonderful. You also talk about
something that I'm scared for saying because I just didn't
expect this am part of the book. It's very sweet,
talks about falling alive, having a kid, you know, like
it's it's I was like, oh, there we go, because
we're the first have a kind of we're rooting for you.
(15:50):
When you just talk about growing up, it's about growing
in combat and there's still some combats, there's still some
talk later in but just like then, all of a sudden,
there's this whole thing about meeting your partner and it's
very cute. So I'm like, again as a man, when
I used to talk about that, either we know all these
we a'll just express that, so please talk about that
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, So I was joking to there and my wife
I was like, yeah, I used to be a hopeless romantic.
Now I'm just not as hopeless, you know. But uh yeah,
so my uh my wife. So, first of all, I
grew up in western North Carolina, which is in a
town that was adjacent, very close to the Eastern Band
of Cherokee the nation there, and uh, you know, so
I got to grow up as a beautiful culture, Native
(16:30):
American culture, and I've always been intrigued by, you know,
just the perseverance, the you know, the beautiful dances and
all these different traditional things that you know that really
opened up my eyes to a lot of different actually
a lot of healing and uh was part of that.
But yeah, and then I get to eastern New Mexico.
My wife's from the Navajo Nation, and you know, uh,
(16:51):
there's the shows it's south. It's called Reservation Dogs. Uh,
there's a character on there called Willie Jack. And there's
some common phrases that I would often hear even growing up.
It was like like this short scote in like, which
means let's go then, you know, a slang type thing.
And you know, we were playing basketball one day and
I just got back from an deployment, and you know,
probably a couple of days before that, if that, and
(17:11):
maybe a theay. But like I realized that, you know, hey,
she has some native you know features, and I've noticed
some some language and some some slang that's haven't heard
that a long time, you know. And I asked her
if you know, are you native? And we were on
this bridge, walking across from the gym to the other
side of where her college was easter eating and you there,
and at that moment she smiled and said, yeah, And
I just knew at that moment, you know, you know,
(17:33):
my wife's my rocks. She's been with me ever since,
you know, and I love you know, she makes a
lot of pottery and stuff like that, and just her
culture and just she even speaks an Ava whole language,
and it's a beautiful, beautiful thing, you know, it's almost
like the language of love itself, you know. But yeah,
she had me from the get gods and the friends
on a little bit. So man, you know, if you're
out there, you eventually climb out of it, you know,
(17:54):
So just just just keep trying persistence, right, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Women are a little different, they be a little let's go
safe and secure right, and then it's not sure about
this man come in here doing that, and I just
I just have to stay on the side note because
I'm part of Cherokee and I know my grandmother's want
of reservation, so I know about that. And then there's
and I'm glad you said there's some There is some
beautiful stuff and healing things that go on a lot
of these native cultures. Restaurant Dogs Trunks is a shell
(18:21):
that sought FX. It's really was really good and it
was done by Native people. There's a couple of shows
out there, one called North of North. It's also about
Native people in that in Alaska, and there's some great
shows out there. Just a little side note, folks, But
I did. But I love that you that you were
able to because I said, reading your story, it was
very cute. It was like it was like, okay, we're
(18:41):
going from like this raw you know, guns blazing over
here to now I have a wife. You know, my
child is born as a father myself, I know exactly.
I follow with my child through. The child was Barsaw
and write a love. They placed her in my hands.
I was always telling her they placed it in my hands.
That was it. I was right what you sold to you?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh yeah, yeah. But you know, I tell people, I've
I've had many call signs, you know, throughout my career,
you know, like Uncle Tito was one of them, for example,
and just different names and like like BDA stuff like that,
and you know, I tell people, the best one I
ever had was when she called me dad. You know
that's a you know, get tear thinking about it, but yeah,
just it's a beautiful thing to have a kid, and
(19:23):
it's a blessing. Man.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
So yeah, it's I I say, we're in here. We're
not gonna cry funks, We're man. Yeah, yeah, no, I know,
I get no, I know said I and my daughter.
Her birthday is actually this weekend as we're recording this,
and I'm gonna go see it's awesome. Yeah. I can't
beieve she's thirty eight years old. I don't know how
that happened. I'm only forty, so I don't know how
that happened, and which I was forty not forty anymore.
(19:45):
But I just I just I look at it. I
got I still remember that baby. I just remember that baby.
I got imber that little girl, and it's like, dang,
you're growing kids of your own. They're like, oh yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, I think that's part of you know, my I
remember one point, like the psychiatrists even tell me, like,
you know, like all this is ending right your service
and you know, flying on the gun ship all this stuff,
you know, and basically like she's like, you need to
change what your legacy is now, right, Like you know
to me what that means, what she was saying is
like I get it now. I was like being the
best father I could be, Being the best husband I
(20:18):
could be, you know, be the best parent I could be,
you know, just be trying to be a decent person
through all this, you know, And to me that that's
what matters. Now. That's my that's my job, you know,
is being a dad. Arm percent I said, so good.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
So where so I'm gonna ask you this, how are
you doing today?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I'm doing I'm doing really well, you know, every day,
you know, every night, and I look in at that
accountability mirror and I'm like, I can answer that question,
hated I was I the best person I could be? Today?
Was the best father husband? Did I drink today? You know?
I pick up a bottle, I pick up her pen,
you know, And that's a lot of what writing does
is you know, when I get that orge to drink,
you know, if you've ever had that bug, I feel
(20:57):
for you. Addiction is a serious thing. But you I
feel like I'm a better man for picking up that
pen over that bottle like that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But a pan, you know, mightier than the story. I
always say something I'm thinking, and I think you know,
because you coming where you come from, your mind has
been expanded, which is a great That's always a great thing.
I mean, you've seen the world. You can talk about
the world at large, not just a little slow you know.
If a lot of folks have a little area, you know,
(21:25):
and that's it. You can say I've been I've been
places around the world that you may have not been to.
I can tell you all about them and cultures. And
I'm asking you, what is money? This is told, this
is totally fluffy, but leaving your area and experiencing food
from all kinds of cultures. What is your favorite food
(21:45):
these days?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Like so, my my favorite food is crab legs. I've
always loved crab legs. You know, Uh, we didn't have
a lot of it grown up in the mountains. But
like every now and then, yeah, yeah, we you know,
we go to the beach and you know it would
go tdy somewhere, you know, being in the ocean right
and it's crab legs. Man. I love them, man, for
whatever reason, you know, they're good.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I like it. I like them. So of course we
know about crab leggs. Yeah, man, uh, but I like that.
I like crab legs. I'm just saying, like, like my
mother said, when she grew up in a place where
she grew up, there's certain things they didn't eat. It
just wasn't there. So was it just left her home
town and one other places she tasted other things. So
I'm just kind of curious, if you know, what are
your things that one fight his favorite food of Filipino food.
(22:28):
He left where you're from and that's his favorite food.
Like so it's kind of I think it's fun to
go out and try other things like self shellfish or
it's fun.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, And there's I mean, there's some really good contenders there.
I've had, you know, talking about the Filipino food. The Olympia,
my one of my one of my best friend's wife
is is Filipino, and man she makes that for us,
and you know, it's awesome food that And then you know,
I've been to South Korea as well one time and
I had some uh uh, what do you call ba
gogi you know, and beef carby ribs you know, I love,
(23:00):
but man.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Delicious, Oh yeah's good. Graduates from the book, how do
you feel the book being out there? Are you okay
with everything you wrote in the book and it's out
there for everybody to read. That's the heart. You're putting
your heart into this and you're putting it out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
My my publisher actually, well, the first time he read it,
you know, and it was still getting you know, edited
and stuff. He's like, man, you really took the veil off,
you know. And and I figure that that's part of
you know, talking about living the house money life right,
taking chances and being vulnerable, you know, is getting these
words out there. And you know, I feel better. And
there's still points in my life where like, I don't
think it's actually like fully set in yet because I
(23:38):
had an air gunner I used to fly with on
the gun shit, And the other day he's like, hey, man,
do you realize like you have a book published? And
it wasn't what he said, sort of how he said it.
I was like, man, like you know, coming from you
that like, I sort of get it now. I guess
to me it was a big deal, you know, and
it's an exciting experience. I tell people, no matter what's
if you got some of your heart, you know, bleed
it on the page, you'll feel better.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Moonchild a memoir The Roots and Wings of a USAF
Combat Special Missions aviator Anthony Dyer is the author. You
can find it on Amazon, I have Kindle, they have
a paperback. It's good. Get it. Get it. Support, support,
support Anthony, Thank you for being a show.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Thank you. Dam's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Thank you my pleasure. So folks always in the shows
with because it's a book podcast again, support in the
authors sport big ones too, but support in the authors too.
There are a lot of stories out there, whether they
are non fiction or fiction, that are out there, and
I say explore them to talking about it. If you're
somebody who's looking for someone like you, if you're a
veteran and you're a you're an air force that ever,
(24:42):
get his book. You might relate to it. And I
think that it's a books aren't going anywhere people are reading,
whether it's audiobooks or Kindle, Wherever that people are reading,
support the author. Supporting the author, and so we do
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