Inner Journey with Ger3eg Friedman and Alan Steinfeld

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, this is Greg Bradon, Jack Canfield, Mariam Williamson, James
Van Prod.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hi everyone, this is Neil Donald Walsh and I'm happy
to tell you that you're listening to Inner Journey with
Greg Friedman.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Stick around your life will change any minute.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome. You are listening to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman
on k XFM one O four seven. All right, you guys,
you know the gig sex relationship dream interpretation. We talk
about it all, and baby do we got a show
for you tonight because you've seen what's on the news. Well,

(00:45):
now it's going to be on the show. I booked
this guest six weeks ago or so. Alan Steinfeld is
the premiere authority on UFO's extraterrestrials and all those things
that go boom in the night from another planet, and
he's going to be our guest this evening. As I

(01:08):
was saying, y'all know the gig sex relationship stream interpretation.
We talk about it all, even UFOs, and we don't
tell you what to do. We don't tell you what
to think, we don't tell you how to do it.
And the reason for that is very very simple. Not
our frigging lives. It's your life, so choose for yourself.

(01:30):
Take responsibility for your life. Choose your happiness, choose your love,
choose your path, Choose what works for you. All we
do is introduce you to pathways and possibilities. What you
do with that determines your happiness. We say something on air,

(01:53):
you don't like it, throw that suck a back up
on the shelf because we're not asking you to buy it.
But if it resonates with you, take it home, try
it on and it still doesn't obligate you. All you
need to know is one thing. You are the magic,
and we just help you realize it. And we'll be

(02:15):
back with more Inner Journey with Greg Friedman right after this.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
My baby is going to get risk And it's great
to be with Juke, Greg and with everybody if.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
We're listening to us, and to have the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
To share my ideas. It's a great pleasure once again
to be just show oh my love to all of you.

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Git back my bags last night refly zero nine am
and I'm going to be.

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High as a kind. Then I missed the girl so much.
I missed my wife. It's lonely out of space on

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such a time, and I'm mess white.

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And I think it's gonna.

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Be a long long time to touchdown. Brings me around
to get too fine.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
I'm not down man. I think I am man, of.

Speaker 8 (03:48):
I'm rocket man.

Speaker 9 (03:55):
Use that, and I think it's gonna be a.

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Long long time.

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Dundown rais me around and get you.

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A fine long man, and the guy a man mow.

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Rocket bout hair long, mar thy kind.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Of please to raise your kids and the fact as
cool as hell, and there's no one.

Speaker 7 (04:47):
There to raise them if you died.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
And long the science. I don't understand. It's just my job,
five days a week, a rocket, bad.

Speaker 10 (05:20):
Rocket man.

Speaker 7 (05:28):
And I think it's gonna be a long long time
to touchdown. Brings me around, and can you find a man?
I think I I a man, and I think it's

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gonna be a long long time. Just don't bring me
rounna get doob fine A lone man.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
I think I am man, No, No, I'm.

Speaker 10 (06:13):
Rocket man. Air long.

Speaker 12 (06:22):
Don't.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
I think it's gonna be a long long time. And

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I think it's gonna be a long long time, and
I think it's gonna be.

Speaker 13 (06:51):
A love long time.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Welcome back. You are listening to Inner Journey with Greg
Friedman on k x F M one O four seven.
Social media is Inner Journey with Greg Friedman and the
website is Gregfriedman dot com. All right, y'all, it's an
interesting evening to be talking about this because so many

(07:20):
things have been going on in our world. If you're
talking about political, if you're talking about extraterrestrial, if you're
talking about just people having honor, integrity and showing up
in this world. There's a saying, and I believe it's

(07:43):
Mark Twain that says, it's easier to fool somebody than
to convince them that they've been fooled. I'm gonna say
that again, it's easier to fool somebody than it is
to convince them that they've been fooled. Around us, what
we're finding out is the reality that we are being told,

(08:06):
The reality as we know it is an illusion. So
what are you going to trust? What are you going
to believe in? What is the actual fact. Let's look
at UFOs for a second. Our guest is going to
be able to articulate a lot of this stuff so
much better. We have Alan steinfeld On and his book

(08:30):
is called Making Contact, and he's going to be able
to talk about the illusion and the misdirection that has
gone on with UFOs and extraterrestrials almost since the beginning
of documented flight in our world. They've recovered things, and

(08:56):
what did they say, Oh, it's a weather balloon, or
don't believe your lying eyes, or you know what all
that is is just natural swamp gas. The lies that
we've been told over and over and over, and the
ones that are more insidious are the ones with just

(09:16):
enough truth in them that they make you doubt yourself
or doubt your reality. How many different times has a
politician lied to us I didn't say that, really, because
I have you on tape saying that, I have you
on television on videos saying that, Ah, don't believe that
I didn't say that, And they stick with the lie,

(09:38):
and they stick with the lie. And what happens because
of how we are hardwired as humans. If you were
told a lie often enough, you start to believe it
as truth. Now, what are we left with if all
of these things are becoming so blatant. You could look

(10:03):
at yourself as a victim and go, whoe poor me, woe.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Is me, Or.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
We could look at this as an opportunity. If all
around us is illusion, then all we have to do
is let go. All we have to do is realize
the key is to not be attached, not grip on
to anything, because the more we grip onto anything at all,

(10:36):
the more we are complicit in creating that illusion. The
more we grip on, it's a fallacy, because the only
thing that's absolutely true, no matter what, is change. This
moment is only here for as long as it takes

(10:57):
to say this moment, and then it's gone. If I
try to hold on to it, all I'm doing is
creating frustration and friction. Our lives are in a constant
state of flux. So it is up to us to
get rolled over, bowled over, barreled over by that wave,

(11:19):
or to surf that sucker, dive under it, whatever we
want to do. What I'm asking you to do is
to make a conscious, aware, awake choice. Instead of just
allowing it to happen to you go with it, understanding
that everything that's going on right now is only as

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important as the moment, and as we like science, as
we get new data, as we get new information, we
adjust and incorporate and are present with that. We're not
worried about what happens yesterday. Yesterday only helps to inform
us about this moment. But if we try to live

(12:07):
in yesterday, we're just going to cause frustration. Lautsu said.
Depression is caused by looking in the past, and anxiety
is caused by projecting into the future. Happiness is in
the present, but it takes courage to not cling on
to what was known, instead to choose what is and

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to decide for yourself how you want to dance with
those energies, how you want to dance with what is
prevalent in your life. Nothing is obligated. Choose the day,
choose the day's divinity. But more than anything, I'm asking

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you to choose what's appropriate for you. That's it. Just
like this show, I'm not telling you what to do.
I'm offering up ideas. I'm offering up concepts, offering up
pathways and possibilities. I'm not saying that we are the

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light and the way or this is the light and
the way. Instead, I'm saying there's a whole bunch of
ways out there. And if I'm offering up something that
works for you, choose to explore it. Don't even choose
to be obligated to it. Just choose what works for you.

(13:42):
And we're going to be back in just a little
bit with our guest, Alan Steinfeld, talking about his book,
Making Contact and so much more. Right after this, Oh guy,

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I still don't know what I was waiting for, and
my times running wild.

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Me in dead in streets.

Speaker 10 (14:24):
Every time I.

Speaker 14 (14:25):
Thought God had married, it seemed the taste was not
so sweet, so I turned myself to face me.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
I've never caught a glimpse.

Speaker 14 (14:40):
How the others messive, Baker, I'm much too fast to take.

Speaker 10 (14:47):
That test, to.

Speaker 8 (14:49):
Change and face the stranger. To change is the one
to be a richer man to change and pays the
strange and changes.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
He's gonna have to fear a different man.

Speaker 10 (15:07):
Time may change me the.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
Black and traced watch the rippers change the size, but
never leave.

Speaker 8 (15:30):
The stream or permanent sin. So the days float through.

Speaker 14 (15:35):
Minds, but still the days seeing the same, and the
children that juice fit on and stay try to change
their worlds. Our rebune to your consultation stay quite aware
of what they're going through.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
To changes is the strange to change us.

Speaker 14 (16:03):
Don't tell them to pull off A parliament to change
it and pays the strange to change us.

Speaker 8 (16:12):
Where's a shame your left us up to her accident?

Speaker 10 (16:15):
Down may change me?

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You can just as.

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Strange past.

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and pays.

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The strange to change more.

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Speaker 8 (16:49):
Pays the strange to change us.

Speaker 10 (16:52):
Pas soon now you're going to get all up. Time
may change me.

Speaker 8 (16:58):
But country I send that down may change.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I can ja.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Welcome back. You are listening to Inner Journey with Greg
Friedman on k x F M one O four seven,
broadcast from Laguna Beach, California, all over the world. Social
media is Inner Journey with Greg Friedman and the website
is Greg Friedman dot com. Our guest tonight is Alan Steinfeld.

(17:33):
He is really the foremost authority on extraterrestrials. Let me
try that in English. Extraterrestrials UFOs the energies that are
prevalent throughout the world that sometimes we disregard or discount
that perhaps we shouldn't. He's an explorer of consciousness and

(17:58):
for over thirty years he's hosted produced the weekly television
show New Realities. His media appearances, lectures and conferences helps
people really understand human potential. He's been at Contact in
the Desert, and I had the opportunity to interview him
there a few years ago when we were all locked down.

(18:20):
And you know, in my experience of Alan, what I
could say more than anything else is that he's a
straight shooter. He's going to tell you directly from his experience,
from his research, what he knows. And I say that
because there is so much incessant misinformation in the world,

(18:43):
and it is more than a breath of fresh air
to speak with somebody like Alan Steinfeld. Alan, welcome to
Inner Journey.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Well, thank you so much. It's great to be back
here with you again and explore the unknown, because that's
the most exciting thing I can think about, is what
we don't know. Everyone's always talking about what they do know,
and I'll talk a little bit about that, but I'll
also talk about what none of us know, and that
is the UFO question, Who, what, where? Why this is

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happening to us?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Now we're going to get into that in a little bit.
And when you say none of us know, I'm not
sure that none of us know. I have a feeling
you may have a clue or two and maybe let
us in on some information that we may not have
been privy to. I'm going to jump in with the
first question. I ask every guest. We have had everybody

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in their cousin on this program. We've had Don Miguel Ruiz,
Bruce Lifton, Donald Walsh, James Redfield, so many people that
authors and artists and shaman and medicine men. To a person,
there was an event, there was a catalyst or a
series of events that really thrust them on their path.
I know you got stories share with us. What would

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you like to share with our listeners this evening?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Well, when you say that, the first thing that comes
up for me is my fascination with the stars as
a child, looking up so strange to see these little
points of light in the sky, and that has captivated me,
I guess ever since I was five or six years old, Like,

(20:27):
what is that? How is this possible? This is unrelated
to anything we know on planet Earth, in the world
we live in, But yet there's a mystery out there.
So my passion has been to pursue the mystery. What

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are people not telling that no one really cared what
was up in the sky and I cared for whatever reason,
I didn't care and were fascinated and was also is
why no one else cared about it?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
So that is really interesting.

Speaker 8 (21:06):
So how old?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
What's your earliest recollection of when you began looking up
and saying there is something bigger than phill up there.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Well, I guess maybe five years old. I looked up.
I mean I was living in the city or near
a city. It was hard to see that, but maybe
I was out in the country and it's just looking
up and it felt like magic, Like what's going on?
What I mean? So, yeah, I've gotten back to five.
That wonder still stays with me, and still no one's

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been able to explain it. I mean, yes, we have
stories and science and all that, but still there's a
wonder up there.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
And at five years old, what did that little young
brain see? What did you wonder about?

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Well, you know, you look up, you see these stars,
and maybe it was up in the country. I don't
know exactly where it was. I just remember it felt
like there was another world unrelated to the busyness of
what people were doing cars and stores and working and

(22:25):
getting up and television, and it was something unrelated to
all that that was going on right above our heads.
And it's like, there's something else going on besides what
people are doing. I mean, that's what it was like
as a kid. There's more to reality, and nobody's talking

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about it.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
And for you guys that don't know, if you can't
hear it from his voice, when Allen says the city,
he's talking about New York and right, it's a you
got to picture really what his circumstances were. He is
this kid in the middle of a cacophony. If you've
ever been in the city, there's horns and people going

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every which way, and you're gonna hear the sights and
the sounds and the yelling and the crying and the
and the smells of all kinds of different ethnic foods
going on all over the place. It is a mish mash,
and it's on fast forward and it doesn't sleep. And

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in the middle of that, the fact that you could
wake up and look up when so many people weren't
is a gift.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well, I think I looked up once I was out
of it was up at the Bungalow colonies up in
the Catskills, So my family would go in the summer
or sleep away camp occasionally. So, yeah, that wasn't a
that was happening in the cities because of the light

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pollution and all that. But then something, the magic of
the sky was happening in these other places, and so
I was pulled in two directions. Yeah, I loved the
chaos of the city and I loved the mystery of
the night sky. And so that was a beginning search

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for me into where I am today, you know, And
what was.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
That evolution like, Because you didn't go from a five
year old going hey, cool stars, that's really interesting up there.
I wonder what the heck that is too? How did
that turn into a passion that was your dharma, your drive,
your so much of who you are these days.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Well, I started to become obsessed with science fiction books.
You know, there was Ray Bradberry, Isaac Asimov was okay,
there was some other authors, and just reading about parallel
universes and going to other planets. So science fiction. I

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was so obsessed. Actually, in my book, I talk about
this major moment where my sixth grade teacher said to
my parents I should not be allowed to read anymore
science fiction because it was making me I know, you know,
just one side or something with some and that was
just like what how that was a trauma. I don't

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want me to read. This was my obsession because it
was something there was an answer there. And then this
idiot of a teacher, who was a horrible teacher, I said, no,
I was being you know, too confined. And you know, really,
once you go deep into the subject, any subject, that
subject opens up into an infamy of possibilities. You can

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learn everything. Being obsessed with one subject. But anyway, that
was something that got in the way. Was a little blip.
And then Star Trek in the nineteen sixties, you know,
growing up in the sixties, like maybe what hell was
on the original series? Of course it's like, no matter
what was happening, maybe we're in the middle of dinner,

(26:16):
maybe I don't know, we were going out somewhere as
the family. I needed to see that program. That was
like food for me. Captain Kirk of the Starship Enterprise.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
You mean you didn't just DVR in the sixties.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
No, I don't think we had DVR.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I know, I'm kidding around.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
You don't want anything, accept obsession to see the program
as it came out. I didn't want to miss it.

Speaker 8 (26:41):
No, I get it.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
So I can't think of a better person to ask
this question too, because you not only deal with extraterrestrials.
What you really deal with, what you really are driven by,
as far as I have experienced of you and read
of you and researched, is human consciousness.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
And yeah, human consciousness. I don't know about consciousness in general,
because what maybe consciousness is the same for all beings
or different, or maybe consciousness is the singular and we're
part of a singular essence of being, you know, But anyway,
I know what you mean, Yeah, consciousness.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
And I found this always fascinating. You could go back
to the very beginnings of television and you see Buck
Rogers and they're blasting off in a rocket ship. Then
what is it? Twenty thirty years later you see the
rocket ship that actually did blast off from Canaveral and

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it looks exactly like Buck Rogers. You go to Star
Trek and their communicators are flip phones that you know,
twenty thirty forty years later that Motorola come out with.
It's over and over and over again. Whether it's written
science fiction or whether it is theatrical or movies or television,

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it seems to be a precursor, a predictor of the future.
Can you explain that to the best of your understanding?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Well, yeah, I mean there are visionaries. There are people
who the quantum field, if you want to put it
that way, holds all potential, and there is a future
timeline that's already laid out for us, and some people
can tap into that timeline. Example, HC. Wells nineteen thirty
eight said, there will come a time where any student

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will sit at their desk with a projector and examine
any book, any document, in exact replica. That's a quote
from HC. Wells nineteen thirty eight. Know he didn't know
what he was talking about, but yet he saw the future.
He's also the first person to write a book about

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an invasion from Mars. But some futures he saw sometimes
he didn't. But there are people that tap into our destiny.
There are individuals that tap into their own destiny. We're
consciousness if you want to go back to that is
non local. It's not contained in a time, or in

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a place, or a dimension, or even a linear possibility.
Consciousness is as all things, all the time, all at once.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Now, you just brought up something I wanted to ask
you about, because you use the term in your book.
That is incredibly curious, and you brought it up in
a slightly different context right now, non local reality. What
do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
First and foremost, well, really non local consciousness in a
sense I would say, as opposed to rea, non local
means that, like a radio, a radio is picking up
a signal that is not generated from the one, from
the from the from the thing itself, from the instrument itself,

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but it's receiving a signal that if you, if anyone
has a radio, could pick up the same thing. So
that signal is generating from a local place, but it's
it's it's acceptance is non local. It's it's everywhere. So
maybe our brain, maybe we're not in our bodies, but

(30:39):
maybe we're using our brains as a local receiver of
a non local consciousness. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's something Greg Braydon talks about a lot, is that
our brains are really more than anything antennae or yeah,
expand on that if you would, please, Well, when.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I teach remote viewing and remote viewing is a have
you heard of the term remote viewing?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I have, but do me favorite for our listeners? Please it?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Okay? Remote viewing was a term that the CIA developed
along with Stanford Research Institute when they heard that the
Russians had a psychic spying program. And the CIA was saying, well,
the Russians are doing and they put a lot of
time and effort into we have to do that. Let's

(31:28):
develop that. So they contacted how put Off, Russell targ
INGOs Swan and the Stanford Research Institute SRI developed a
psychic spying program. And this main psychic they used was
Ingo Swan. He was a painter but also a fantastic
astrologer and psychic from New York City. How put Off

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knew him from the early scientology day. Nobody knows that really,
And how brought Ingo out to Stanford and I said
to didn't go, how are we going to do this?
How are we going to develop a program? Maybe you
could do a little experiment, and he says, can you
tell me what you're seeing on this dial in the
basement of this building? So Ingo went into a psychic

(32:15):
kind of space and he saw what was going on there,
what the dial was saying. It turned out to be right.
He said, well, how says then? What did you do?
He said? I remote viewed it. So remote viewing is
a way of projecting your consciousness anywhere in time and
space and seeing those non local places you're You may

(32:38):
be in one place, but your consciousness can expand into
any place you set your intention on. So remote viewing
sounded a lot better than psychic spying. This program at
Stanford was developed for twenty years with Russell Tark. He
taught me the skill, he said, And you really can't
teach when I tell people or when I teach, of course,

(33:01):
they said, I can't teach you this, but you can
learn it. You already are it. You are already non.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Logo breg you.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
You think you're localizing your body, but you really you're not.
You're everywhere, all the time, all at once, like that
Academy Award winning monkey.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
I was gonna say they should make a movie with
that title.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Well I think, yeah, all right, So did that explain it?
Did I?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
You explained it beautifully? And what I want our listeners
to understand is if you think this is Wou woo
made up stuff, I guarantee you that this is used
today there. I know that it was used in the
capture of Ben Laden. Is that's one of the things

(33:49):
that they employed with the Coel Team six going in
is they had people in Washington essentially, as you said,
in a basement viewing where they where he was, what
was going on, how it was going on. How do
we how can you teach us that we already know
how to do this?

Speaker 16 (34:10):
Well?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
I want to say one thing, nobody actually knows how
it works. How is it that you there can see
Ben Laden or anywhere around the world beyond time and space?
How is that possible? And I have not found an
adequate explanation. It works, for sure, it works for forty

(34:34):
years of experiments that proof that this is a fact.
What the mechanism of how it works. We're just beginning
now to understand that there's parts of the brain, the
white matter of the brain around the hypocalamust that seems
to be more developed in remote viewers and my favorite

(34:57):
subject et contact these it's a part of the brain
that somehow is more complex that might actually be the
antenna that we're looking for. So your question was what
how can you learn it?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
How can we how can we uncover it and know
that we already have it and employ it?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Well, you can practice it like if somebody if someone's
calling you on the phone, See what comes to you.
When I've learned this from Russell targ he said, I
have something in my pocket. Your job is to tune in,
which means you set your intention. Okay, what's in Russell's pocket?
I'm putting my intention there, and then you receive it.

(35:43):
You're not guessing, you're not thinking. You're using your right brain,
which is the receivership, to let the image come to
you what they call the signal and understand distinguishing the
signal from the noise. The noise is all the stuff
going on in your monkey minds all the time. Heay

(36:05):
for dinner? Who should I call? WHI should I wear?
Does this person like you? As at first? This is
all the stuff that's circular and that, and when you
remote you it's none of those things. You have to
get out of the way. You have to clear the slate,
you have to become empty. You set your intention. Okay,
what's there what's this target, and then the image comes

(36:26):
to you. It will come to you if you can
get out of the way to receive it. That's the
signal from the noise ratio. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yes, and it actually is. It gives me a whole
new insight because it's so often, especially in masculine energy,
you want to go out and get it. You want
to go you want to remote view. Until now I
think I was thinking about going out there and looking
at what is. Instead it's essentially tuning the radio stationing

(37:01):
station and receiving.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
What is exactly. And we do it all the time.
We get straight thoughts. Like I was traveling one time,
I got a flash of my bookshelf in my living
room to slash, and when I got back, that bookshelf
had fallen into the ground. So it's like we get
these slashes of inside and we maybe ignore them or

(37:26):
some people pay attention to them, or like you get
a feeling we should I go for dinner and I
remote you. I project myself into the future and say
if I go to this restaurant, how will I feel
if I get this? It's just and you know, and
sometimes I get like, don't go there. You know, and
one time I didn't listen and there was this person

(37:49):
sitting next to me with some kind of like cough
or a cold. I got that it wasn't about the food.
And it's like we override are intuit itself because we
don't think where That aware I get is to listen.
Listen to yourself, Listen to the inner small voice that

(38:10):
is talking to you all the time with awareness. And
this is the journey of initiation. I would say this
is what the ancient initiates knew that we when we
tune into that small voice, we're actually tuning into our divinity.
This is the big leap here. So that was the

(38:30):
big joke. The CIA Stanford research help people tune into
their own divine conscious awareness, which is everywhere, all the time,
all at once.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
It just comes from the strangest places. Now, I know
that you've been friends with Paul Sellig for a long
time and he is phenomenal at tuning in and allowing
things to come through him, and I know you encouraged him.
Was there something was there something to that process that
allowed him to open up to recognize because you know,

(39:04):
in spending some time with Paul, you know he started
out as a pretty darn good skeptic about all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, yeah, I met Paul. He would do these channeling
sessions in his little apartment in Grange Village, or about
ten of us that gather around was actually after he
had written the book I Am the Words, but he
still never was public. He wrote this book and he channeled,
and I was a kind of stour of channeling. I

(39:32):
my awakening to this whole reality was through listening to
channel channel Well, Rampa, have you ever da v Night
Rampa Saint Light One?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Well, I didn't know anything about anything in the early eighties.
And if someone's friend of mine says, this woman's channeling
this thirty five thousand year old warrior from Atlantis, do
you want to go see it? And of course I
was come from a psychological background, young sar. Sure if
I said, this woman is either one of three things.

(40:05):
Either she's totally crazy, which was ninety percent of what
I thought, she is a great actress, which was maybe
ten No, let's say nine percent. And the third possibility
was maybe one percent, maybe maybe, maybe perhaps possibly, I
don't know, never could be this could be true. So

(40:28):
I went with that kind of understanding or that's a
free judgment prejudice, and Rampa she channels, she goes into
a trent and she this voice comes through or her
body changes. Her next blows up. I don't think she's
doing this much anymore. This is in the early eighties

(40:50):
and Rampa comes through with this warrior. He's marching around
the stage and I'm sitting in the audience and maybe
one hundred people some thing. And then he calls on
me and he says, what say you, but love the entity?
How be you this day in your time? And I said,
what are you talking to me? And it goes indeed,

(41:14):
and then I have to say the fabric of reality shifted,
like everything became misty, and it was like being in
an altered state. It was like doing drugs without the substance.
It was an altered state of consciousness that made me
aware of a bigger part of reality, of more that

(41:37):
there was more to all of this, like looking at
the stars. It was an awareness that there was more
levels of consciousness awareness from that interchange, and so that
set me on the path, like I wanted to know everything.
I studied the perennial philosophy, you know, the great wisdoms
of the Eaves, the alchemisty gnostics, terrek literature. Because that

(42:02):
I realized there was a depth of understanding that just
made me aware there was more to human consciousness. So
no so as checking out lots of channels. And I
came across Paul Sellig friend invited me to his apartment.
I said, wow, because I've seen lots of channels. There's

(42:22):
a lot of people channeling their own altered ego and
their own ego sense, and they wanted to be important,
and you know, channelingtorted became the fashion, and most of it,
some of it was great, some of it wasn't great.
So I was a snob, a channeling snob, and someone
invited me with Paul Selig's place and I heard Paul

(42:44):
channel and I said, Paul, you've got something there. This
is the real thing, Paul, because I heard a lot
of stuff at the REMPA that wasn't the real thing.
I said, Paul, we got to go on the road.
We got to get you out of his apartment and
get you in from the public. And he trusted me,
so we did one of his first public probably the

(43:07):
first public event at the Medicenter in New York. I
don't know if you know that place run by Jody Serota,
And when was that two thousand and five or something,
sometime before the Sandy hurricane and it just took off.
And then I hosted the first retreat for Paul because
I knew, and Paul would always say, this is the

(43:27):
funny part, Well, if nothing comes through and there's like,
you know, fifty people in the room, he would say,
if nothing comes through, I'll buy everyone pizza. And I said,
he said that, he said that public and I said, Paul,
there's so much that is pouring through you. And he
only had one book out and I started least ten
books in the future when I looked at him, and

(43:51):
I think there's more now, yeah, yeah, No. So I
knew Paul was a channel of substance. I could just
tell from the level. But most of the great channels,
and I've seen a lot of great and that's so
great channels. The great ones are originally the great ones
are uniquely tapped in to their own way of connecting

(44:18):
to the source. So I don't know if you've seen
a lot of channels, but I've seen lots of money.
Have you heard some great channels I've.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Heard some great ones, but I have heard a whole
I am the biggest cynic skeptic that you will ever
see about this stuff. And the amount of b that's
out there is insane. And then and you you stated
it in a much more elegant way that they're often
channeling their alter egos. And that's really a beautiful thing.

(44:49):
And and what I've found is when it's the real deal,
there's you can feel it in your being, is.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Exactly and that that's what I felt sitting with Paul
in his little apartment in Grangeville's whoot ten of us
and his wisdom would come through, and he said, Paul,
you were made for the stage. I mean, you made
for the public, made for the big time. And I
just knew it, and he trusted that, and he said, Okay,

(45:20):
let's do it. Let's do a public event. And now
he's traveling every single weekend probably around the country, doing
another workshop, doing another talk, and still brilliant information. That's
what makes a great channel. That's what was so amazing
about Rampa the Enlightenment. It's like that's what Joe's spender

(45:43):
started with RANPA, you know, And now Joe's doing his
own thing and probably is bigger than Randa. But Joe
started there back twenty five years ago. When I was
with Ransa, I used to see Joe and he was
really a great student because Rampa started a mystery school,
which is do you know what mystery schools were all about?

Speaker 17 (46:02):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, do you want to share with our listeners please?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Well, you know, in the ancient days, there wasn't television,
there wasn't the access to knowledge, but there were people
still waking up to their own divinity of consciousness, and
they were teachers and places and retreats that were called

(46:26):
let's say, let's call the mystery schools, the ancient Egyptian
mystery schools, the Greek e Lucian mysteries. I mean, there
were places people could go in the West anyway, in
India it was already established that there were gurus and
saints and swamis and you could That was much more
accessible for the spiritual seeker. And now it's fashionable to

(46:52):
be spiritual. But back before, well, I guess starting in
the eighteen nineties, it was a big shift. Before that,
you have to go someplace, you have to find teachers,
you had to be maybe singled out. You had to
really search for knowledge, and there were these schools where

(47:13):
you can teach the pythagoray and mysteries. I mean, there
were places that are now known, but back then you'd
have to just find your way to one, and once
you did, you stayed until you woke up to who
you really were on some level. Of course, there's always

(47:34):
levels and levels of awakening, so it's a tradition. Let's
just put it that way.

Speaker 12 (47:40):
Now.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
I want to circle back to something you said earlier,
because I'm in the process right now of opening my
own foundation and helping people with whether it's physically, mentally,
or spiritually or just personal growth, through working predominantly on light,
frequent and sound. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're telling

(48:04):
me a lot of where we're dealing with extra extraterrestrials
or even remote viewing and so many other things. The
foundation for that is based in light, frequency and sound.
Is that correct well?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Of course, life frequency and sound is what the universe is,
what we're made of, It's what everything is made of.
It's what the source itself generates from the absolute into
manifested reality. Life frequency and sounds, that's that's the substance
of it all. Yes, of course that's my feeling.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Now is it your feeling as well that a lot
of space travel time travel will Do you believe in
time travel at all?

Speaker 1 (48:52):
First of all, well, yeah, I mean people have seen
the future. I mean there is I do think there's
many different and timelines of possibility. But I do think
you you know, time space. If you look at space,
it seems absolute, but space is also very personalized from

(49:15):
where you are. Of course, we're not talking about non
local space. We're talking about local space. So time is
the same thing. Time is absolute, but it's also localized
from your sense of reality. So these are concepts that
I think ets have figured out with some advanced intelligence

(49:36):
that can be manipulated, controlled, adjusted, and you or someone's
advantage of travel or looking into the future. So yeah,
we have yet to understand at the level of cultural
development we are in as a very sort of primitive civilization.

(49:59):
But as we bow, we will start. And Einstein was
probably one of the first understands that time and space
can both be manipulated by the power of consciousness, and
that in and.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Of itself is a huge statement. Time and space can
be manipulated by the power of consciousness that opens up
the entire universe to all of us.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Well, guess what, greg The universe has already open up
to all of us, we just don't know it. That's
what we're doing here in incarnational form. We're playing with
existence because it's opened up for us to experience the
ultimate realities on many, many levels of awareness.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Absolutely all right, Now here's the sixty four thousand dollars question.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Okay, have you you could you could send a check?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Once I answered, yeah, it'll bounce like it's rubber baby. Okay,
have you personally encountered anybody that is extraterrestrial in a
tangible form?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Well, my take on this is and other people have
different experiences that I can only talk about my experience.
I have met beings in dream states or altered states.
When you're in the presence of these ets, at least
the ones ies I think I've encountered, there's a distortion

(51:30):
of reality. It's like their frequency of consciousness is so
different than ours. To be present with them is a
distortion of our culturally conditioned state of awareness. It's like,
if you've ever been around crazy people, you start to

(51:51):
pick up crazy thoughts. And or have you ever been
around really enlightened people, really clear people who start to
pick up their clarity when you're ets. There's so much
information pouring into them, and their frequency is at such
a different rate of calibration. It's like trying to pick

(52:13):
up Wi Fi on an AM radio and we have
the capacity, but we're not tuned to that capacity, so
we get a huge distortion download and confusion until we
can raise our frequency. And it's all about frequency to
the place where they're emanating their levels of higher frequency consciousness.

(52:38):
So if you're unless you're there, it's going to be
somewhat overwhelming, but doesn't mean they're greater than us. These beings,
they're equal to us. We just have to upgrade the
capacity of our receivership in order to really make contact

(52:59):
with the other on the level of consciousness they are
generating their field app.

Speaker 8 (53:06):
We have with YEP.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
So we have whipped through the first hour. We have
so much to talk about. Your book Making Contact is
absolutely phenomenal. And if you guys think that the way
we're talking about these concepts is a little bit overwhelming,
Alan in book his book Making Contact makes this easily

(53:30):
ingestible easily understandable and maybe most importantly, easily applicable to
your everyday life. And that's a cool thing.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Thank you. I appreciate that plug. I have to write
that down. It'll really that's excellent.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, it'll be on the podcast later when we post it.
Your website is what When people want to find out
more about you, where do they go?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Well, I did have a website that I have to
kind of upgrade. So find me on YouTube, YouTube dot com,
slash New Realities. You can find me on Facebook, you
can find me on Instagram. You can find me a
little bit on Twitter. But I like I'm putting a
lot of you know, social media is endless. So I
tell people at tune into my YouTube channel and leave

(54:22):
me come and say our YouTube dot com slash new
Realities You can email me at new Realities at earthlink
dot net as well. Question. So yeah, so I'm out
there in many different ways. But you know, you have
to find the thing you're focused on and stick with
that if you're going to be a social media you know.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Presence Alan Steinfeld and we're going to be back with more.
We're going to explore his book Making Contact. We're also
going to talk about all the stuff that was in
the news this week about unidentified flying objects, so they
don't call UFOs anymore. And also Alan requested one song

(55:06):
and one song alone, and we're going to discuss this
on the other side of the hour. Which song is this? Alan?

Speaker 14 (55:14):
This is.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
The Carpenters calling. What is the interplanetary Yes, interplanetary life
or interplanetary intelligent exactly? Yeah, and obscure song but yes,
let's call in interplanetary contact.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
And you are listening to In Her Journey with Greg Friedman,
and we'll see you after the top of the hour.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
All hurry, all right, you're listening to All Hit Radio
and it's fifty three degrees at thirty minutes past the
hour and right now and all request line, I've got Mike.
Glad you went on the phone.

Speaker 8 (55:54):
Hey babe, what would you like to hear?

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Hey babe, Sorry, I can't hear you too while you're
gonna have to speak a little closer into the phone. Okay, babe,
what would you like to hear again?

Speaker 8 (56:04):
We are.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Hey Mike.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
I'm sorry, babe, but that's not on our playlist. And
by the way, you sound great over the phone anyway,
if you give us your request.

Speaker 8 (56:14):
We'll be glad to play it for you, babe. So
let's hear it.

Speaker 10 (56:17):
We are observing.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Oh listen, Mike. I'm sorry, babe, we can't like I'm sorry, Mike.

Speaker 8 (56:25):
This contact with you.

Speaker 10 (56:28):
We are your friends.

Speaker 18 (56:40):
All the planetary fronts, the planetary.

Speaker 10 (57:02):
Contact with you. We are your friends calling give us
other to planet.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
Take it requires extraordinary ic correct.

Speaker 15 (57:36):
And please some and please we besiege you, come, survive.

Speaker 10 (57:45):
Com.

Speaker 8 (57:47):
Please and just stand that.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
Please spell.

Speaker 10 (57:52):
Won't you give a society and give a society that
we reached you?

Speaker 7 (57:58):
Please side gives society that we reached you.

Speaker 19 (58:35):
With your mind and.

Speaker 18 (58:37):
You harbor blity to fall and rams with thought energy
far beyond the door.

Speaker 10 (58:48):
You close your eyes, you can concentrate together. That's the way.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
To send them.

Speaker 10 (58:58):
Assagy.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Leta world plan.

Speaker 17 (59:01):
Jack planetary bl.

Speaker 13 (01:00:05):
My name is Greg Friedman. I am a modern version
of those that have existed in every culture.

Speaker 10 (01:00:10):
I am a guide.

Speaker 13 (01:00:12):
For years, I have taken people all over the world
to work with indigenous elders and exotic locations only to
show you that you are the magic, and we just
help you realize it.

Speaker 10 (01:00:24):
It could be.

Speaker 13 (01:00:24):
Terrifying to look at our fears and sometimes even more
so to look at our strangers.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I take you out into the wild, into the unknown
foreign Inner Journey. Welcome back. You are listening to Inner
Journey with Greg Friedman. On a very special night. We
have Alan Steinfeldt here, and Alan is one of the

(01:00:54):
greatest authorities in human and I say human consciousness earlier,
and he corrected me appropriately universal consciousness. And that's a
very important distinction. And it's about not only opening us
up to the understanding of extraterrestrials UFOs. It's about opening

(01:01:18):
ourselves up to who we are and the possibilities of
who we are as well that we can access if
we ought to do so, because it's all available right here,
right now. And if I was going to sum up
Alan's work, that would be the best way I know.

(01:01:38):
How is his mission on this planet and with his
work is to help us understand how expansive we are
and how many different ways that can be employed. How
far off am I, Alan?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
No, You're not far off at all. I mean, why
would you think you're far off? It's what we're here
to explore. I do think we are the extraterrestrials. When
we talk about consciousness well, if it's non local, and
all sentient beings are full of that, then we're non local.

(01:02:18):
In essence. These bodies are local, but the essence, the
part of us who that's infinite, is not part of
this earth. It's here. We're here in form, which is great,
but we're also beyond that. So this is something people
don't understand because it's a word that's just coming into

(01:02:41):
our cultural parameters. But like we don't there's so many
aspects to it. So what is consciousness? How is it used?
I say it's an application, it's a medium, it's it's
coming into its form because it's in a way it's
replacing the old word for God. If you want to

(01:03:03):
call that, well, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
And that freaks a lot of people out. And it's
interesting because you're gonna hear, you know, whichever old Testament, Kuran,
the Torah, all the old books are going to say
God is everywhere. And the way I try to describe
it to people is we are universal energy. We are

(01:03:27):
a drop in the ocean, and we are the ocean itself.
And if we can recognize that, if we can tune
into that, if we could, you know, just release to it.
The possibilities are infinite.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Well, maybe those old story those old religious books and
meant consciousnesses everywhere. Maybe that was just God was a
way that unebowed people had translated the instant awareness which
they called God, which we're calling consciousness. So in a sense,

(01:04:04):
maybe it's the same thing. We're just using different words
to redefine and redevelop include ourselves in the picture in
a sense.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, now before we get too far away from it. Yeah,
the Carpenter song what the heck? Inspired you to have
us play that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Well, you know it's calling all interplanetary craft there. It
was written. I think it was written about a broad
past that Colin Andrews had received on his radio from
maybe an extraterrestrial source, and it was about we are
your friends were here, tune in, open up, and it

(01:04:50):
was about something they developed called World Contact Day. The
Carpenters didn't write that song. Someone was the whole story
about who wrote it, but they did the best version.
I'm actually a little ashamed to say I'm a Karen
Carpenter fan because it was such a pop sort.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Of are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
And a great boy she had incredible So they put
that to music and it is about a vision about
world contact day and I don't know if that'll ever happen,
but we are getting closer to being uh. And this
goes back to what you mentioned earlier, the hearings that

(01:05:30):
just happened last Wednesday, where we're coming into the reality
that we are not alone. In the university's never been alone,
the US has has craft and and the government is
hiding it. And this is all pouring out, not leaking,

(01:05:51):
but pouring out into the consciousness of the American and
probably the world populations. So the jig is up. We're
not alone, We've never been alone. We're part of something
much bigger than what our media, educations, religions, all the

(01:06:13):
things have you made us into these small little In
a way, life is a freak of nature according to
Darwinian evolution, but maybe it's not. Life is an emergent
property of creation itself. That's my feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
What do you think why now? Look, it's like these
guys have known this literally for decades, about there being
other forms of life here on this planet and throughout
the universe. Why do you believe they're starting to release
this information to us now? And they even started what
six months a year ago they said they were going

(01:06:54):
to do this, and then it became a whole lot
of NATA.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Right, this is a big question, and there's a couple
of things I can think of. I don't know who's
in agreement. First of all, there's a fracture with inside
the cover up this undisclosed field. There's something that there
is too many people aware of the secrets. Started in

(01:07:20):
twenty seventeen. There's first phase of the disclosure where lou Alessandro,
who's ahead of the ad TIP program, the Events Aerospace
Threat Identification Program and intelligence officer working for the Pentagon,
looking at these videos saying, hey, something like this, this
is real, how come we don't know about it? And

(01:07:43):
he talked to Chris Melan, who was Defense Assistant Defense
Deputy under Clinton and Bush, and this inside awareness started
to catch on. And of course this has been covered
up since Roswell, maybe even earlier, since nineteen forty seven,

(01:08:05):
and that's like, you know, seventy six years of generational
aspects of the Pentagon keeping this a secret. So there's
been a fracture inside government and some people have started
to push for the truth. There was Harry Reid, if
you read the New York Times Artill on twenty in

(01:08:26):
December sixteen, twenty seventeen, to see Harry Reid, the Senate
majority leader. Democrats started to push for this secret program,
and that started the ball road rolling down. Untill about disclosure.
But why is that happening now? I think partly another
aspect of it is that the vibration of the Earth

(01:08:46):
is changing. The vibration of what we've talked about before,
consciousness is changing, it's amplifying, it's elevating. Maybe we're moving
into the aquarian age where this is, this is awakening
of humanity. There's so many factors. Technology is advancing ai

(01:09:09):
these things. We just went through three years of something
we thought would be impossible, which was a planetary lockdown
for whatever reason we want to give for that. But
something happened in these last three years that change the
way we think of reality collectively, and that was like

(01:09:34):
a big shift in the collective and we started to
become ready for something unknown, something possible is no longer
there is no normal anymore. So this has shifted people's
awareness that something else may be possible. And so all
these points are converging on the fact that the secret

(01:09:58):
that's been kept for seventy these five plus years. Is
no longer holding water, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
And I got to tell you, I know a few pilots,
and I knew somebody also that flew for CIA Air
and transported people that were, you know, not supposed to
be known to be around anywhere, and he among many others,
I actually don't know a pilot that hasn't seen something

(01:10:32):
now right, And I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Mean one out of five Americans I've seen or know
someone we've seen it. I mean, this is a worldwide phenomena. Yeah,
we localized in this country, but yes, this is something
that we have to get used to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
I'm losing you a little bit with the MIC's going
a little bit wonky. Oh sorry, that's okay, much better,
thank you. Uh okay. So it's a worldwide phenomena. And
then the really big skeptics go, then why don't I
see an alien walking down the street?

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Well they don't really, According to me, they're not walking
down the street. But if you have night vision goggles
and you look up at the sky in a place
like Sedona, Arizona, there is so much traffic going on.
They're not all satellite some of them are. But I
was just out in Sedona. I guess it was sometime

(01:11:30):
in May. I had these you know what night vision
goggles are? Night vision.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
I actually have a friend who today I lives up
into hatch Apie, so she's out of the city and
she's in a place where there's not a whole lot
of light pollution. I said, you need to get a
pair of night vision binoculars or night vision goggles, because
you need to look up into the sky and you're

(01:11:56):
going to see things that are not used to being
in your consciousness.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Right. And I was just out in Sidona, actually it's
the place I go to a lot had night vision goggles.
I'm looking at as someone said, oh, there's something over there,
and look and there's a triangle, a slight lit up
triangle with the point going up on the triangle. So
the triangle is facing up as I'm looking at it.

(01:12:24):
That switches like in an instant, and the triangle that
was going up. They thought, oh, that could be something
is now pointing down.

Speaker 16 (01:12:32):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Oh my god, I just really saw something there that
could not be explained that Like, I knew they were
out there, but there's no denying your own experience. It
definitely wasn't a satellite, it wasn't an airplane. It was
it was something beyond this world. And that's what everyone says,

(01:12:56):
who have seen these things, who've had experiences with these things.
Grand Cameraon wrote a chapter in my book. He says,
if you've seen something, you are part of the phenomena.
There are no innocent bystanders. And that's that's what's happening.
We are being consumed. Most people are unaware by a phenomena,

(01:13:21):
and that's why it's no longer called UFOs unidentifying flying objects.
This is unexplained aerial phenomena because it's a phenomena that
involves us psychologically, physiologically, neurologically affecting the human being. These

(01:13:42):
are not objects. This is an interface with something that
many people just call the phenomena because we can't even
say they're from another planet or maybe they're into My
tendency is to think they're interdimensional. So the phenomena is
upon us, and we have to rise to the occasion

(01:14:04):
to meet it with the best intelligence, the most information
we have. We need the Pentagon to row out the
bodies and the craft. We need to look at this
as a collective human civilization and see what we can
gain from this and how we can evolve our culture

(01:14:25):
because they're waiting at our doorstep to upgrade our planet.
Because we've made a mess of things and they're not
going to help us directly. We have to figure it
out for ourselves, but we have to at least focus
together on what is possible.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
You know, you talk about consciousness, and that to me
is the key. There are stories about when the sailors
first came to the Tahitian Islands that the natives could
not even see the boats because they couldn't comprehend something
so dramatically different than what they had known before. And

(01:15:09):
I feel like our understanding of extraterrestrials is very similar energetically,
and then once we start to be able to incorporate
what they are, then the recognition and the of the
presence becomes much easier.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Exactly. That's my point, Greg, That's exactly what I say.
It's about cognition. You know the difference between cognition and recognition.
You have to have understood and cognized and formulated a
place within our dnse reality where something new, the unknown

(01:15:48):
can come in and start to carve a new perceptual
awareness of what is. I'll give you a simple example
of that. Have you ever been to a wine tasting?

Speaker 7 (01:16:01):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Yeah, So if you're not familiar with wine, you taste
these wines, you you might say, yeah, that tastes like wine,
and then the salmeier says, well, you taste the woody
flavor in there? Do you taste the fruity flavor? So
they're picking out distinctions in an awareness that we just
generalize and maybe a long shot, but there's a distinction

(01:16:24):
and awareness that these et presents have that we don't
recognize because we haven't been able to cognize it, because
we haven't dropped into the unknown and welcomed the impossible.
Once you start to welcome the impossible, you start to

(01:16:44):
develop new neural nets of awareness that brings these other
forms into cognitive awareness, this cognitive perceptual application of neuro
theology in a sense. But we it's consciousness that drives
the new neurology. When you open up your mind to

(01:17:07):
something new and unknown, you make available this is Joe
Spender the new neurinets of perception and allow you to
see the unknown so you can welcome into your reality.
So you have a place to put it within your
conscious awareness and you can recognize it. Got it good?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Now I'm going to ask you. I'm going to go
just slightly a little bit left up from where we
are right now, because friend of mine also was asking
me about these things, and she got an Akashak records
reading from a guest that has been on the program before,
a lady named Mary Madeiras. And if you guys don't
know what a Koshak records are, go back and listen

(01:17:51):
to that show. We don't have time right now to
dive into it. In that reading, this friend of mine
was told that she's a hybrid. Do you please let
our listeners know what that means? And if somebody is
how to navigate that well, First.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Of all, I think the human race is a hybrid race,
meaning that there may have been evolving primates here on
the Earth that were naturally part of a genetic you know, evolution,
and somewhere along the line, another level of consciousness came
and upgraded. Are our basic primate DNA to be much

(01:18:35):
more advanced? Is there civilization that seems to burst overnight
into very complex structures? I mean, the further you go
back in Egypt. The more complex the temple structures are
something I feel mixed their DNA with the basic DNA

(01:18:56):
of what was evolving as human primate life to create
a species of humans that are very different than the
animals here. So we are hybrids. That's my feeling of
some unknown et that was already very evolved with the
with the basic human genetics. So that's one level, right,
we are different than all the other animals on the planet.

(01:19:18):
We are animals, we're in those animal bodies, but we
build houses, we decorate, we create media, we create levels
and sophisticated communications that seem to be vastly different and
everything else going on here. So we are the hybrids.
So what's happening now is the next upgrade of human

(01:19:40):
beings where there's a more fine tuning of consciousness where
there people are born attuned to their life on other
planets and they've come here as star seeds to help
in this time of transformation where humans are realizing that
we're not just he here to survive, we're here to thrive.

(01:20:03):
We're here to welcome in the greater levels of consciousness
as hybrid beings aware of our connection to the cosmos.
This is the thing, and we're here to be creators
of greater realities. New reality does. My YouTube channel is
called new Realities, which means that life just got a

(01:20:26):
little more complex, a little more I think joyful, a
little more exciting, a little more creatively evolving. This is
the key our creativity is the activation of this hybrid awareness,
so we can expand the known into a greater possibility

(01:20:48):
of being, of joy, of experience. Why do we incarnate
into these bodies before experience? And we have reached a
sort of limit on what humans have experience, not dated
but felt experience. So you can walk down the street
and look everyone in the eye and say, I know

(01:21:11):
what that feels like. But now we're at a turning
point in history where the next level of awareness and
the new lessons of humanity are coming into play, so
we can have even greater a greater feeling for the unknown,
new new levels of creation and creativity, and greater possibilities

(01:21:35):
for joy and awakening.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
And it takes the courage to be okay in the unknown,
to be able to create, be able to discover, be
able to awaken, to recognize too, to really play in
new fields, you have to be willing to let go
of the side of the pool. And if I hear
you correctly, you are saying more, maybe more than ever

(01:22:00):
in our history, we are consciously doing that.

Speaker 8 (01:22:04):
We are here with that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
We're here with Alan Steinfeld. His book is called Making Contact.
If you haven't checked it out, please go check it out.
It's going to take those things that you may have
previously thought as weird or woo woo, and it's going
to take them to a place where you can understand them,

(01:22:29):
not asking you to necessarily agree, but taking very difficult,
complicated concepts and making them easily ingestible. Again, the book
is called Making Contact. We're going to be back after
a short break. You are listening to Inner Journey with
Greg Friedman, and we're here with Alan Steinfeld.

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And you're listening to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Welcome back. You are listening to inter Journey with Greg
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media is inter Journey with Greg Friedman and the website
is Gregfriedman dot com. We are here with a very
special guest this evening, Alan Steinfeld, is the author of

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Making Contact. But more than that, he is somebody who's
doing his best to usher in a new level, a
new awareness, a new era of consciousness. Alan, welcome back
to Inner Journey.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Well, thank you, Greg. I really enjoyed this conversation. You know,
it is a new era of consciousness because the what
I say, the modality of reality is shifting, at least
for those who are aware of it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
You know, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
So yeah, I know you're on board with this. I
know everything you've commented on is write in alignment with
what I'm thinking. So thank you for the conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
I am loving it. Now. I want to go back
to the hearings. We had hearings this week and what
talk about alignment. I think you were booked on the
show about six weeks ago and you happen to show
up on the exact right week, and that there were
hearings in Congress talking about all of these objects flying

(01:27:39):
throughout the air. Will you bring us back to there
and let's get a little bit down into it if
we could.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Well, there's been hearings the last couple of years where
government people have covered up, Oh, there's really nothing out there.
We don't know what's out there. This Wednesday, July twenty sixth,
there were three people who came forward, two pilots and
one intelligence officer who called himself a whistleblower, who said, no,

(01:28:09):
there's things in the sky that are real. We've seen
them on radar. Doctor David Fraber said no, I've seen
them with my eyes from my craft. There are things
we cannot explain. We don't understand their propulsion system. We
don't know how they're working, how they're moving. You know,

(01:28:30):
the right degree, right turns grow going one thousand miles
an hour, just like may Wladder anyone inside with the
g Force. So there's a technology we can't understand that
it's being used by probably non human intelligence. This is
what was said in the hearings. So the secret is out.

(01:28:53):
This is something a lot of us already knew, but
it wasn't said, It wasn't cognized into a general reality
until Wednesday, July twenty sixth, where everything changed. You know,
right before this we were approaching a world of possibilities,
and yes we had our beliefs and experiences, but to

(01:29:14):
make it official like this, this guy, David Grush, who's
an intelligence officer who worked for the UAP Task Force,
which was created to investigate these objects, was denied access
to the objects. He was investigated by other people in
the Pentagon. So this whole thing that came out on

(01:29:38):
July twenty six isn't even so much about aliens. It's
about a runaway, rogue organization within the Pentagon that is
keeping secrets from the law makers themselves. And so this
is a constitutional issue that is going to break open

(01:29:59):
this secret. The more that it's been denied, the more
they're guilty, the more the pressure is to shift what
we know. More and more people are paying attention to it.
Of course, a lot of people are saying, what's the
big deal, Well, it is a big deal if we
realize that these these crafts are not filling up their

(01:30:21):
space of their gas tanks to get here. You know,
first of all, it puts the fossil fuel company is
on the run. And once we have free energy, which
I think is what this is leading to and why
it's been a massive cover up by corporate military interest,
is that it freezes us. It frees us to cultivate

(01:30:43):
the desert to have abundant food. I know this is idealistic,
but why if these crafts are here and they come
from some place else, which already seens impossible according to
most people's world views. It is a on theological shocked,
as John Max said, to wake up to the reality

(01:31:03):
where yes, you don't have to be enslaved to an
old system, something as new as possible for humanity. And
the ball started rolling this past week.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
It's the ball started rolling a long time ago, and
we're pulling back the veil. And that is so vital
because there's such irony going on, there's such contradiction going on,
and on one level, we are incessantly being lied to
in what used to be a democracy is now a corporatocracy,

(01:31:43):
and we are constantly constantly being lied to. And even
when they're caught dead to rights on tape, video or
otherwise saying exactly the lie, they'll they'll look at you
dead in the face and say I'm not that's not true,
and go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Yeah, no, no. They said that the head of the
Arrow the events are nominally resolution Office, that there's no
evidence that any of this is Extraterrosciti said this April nineteenth,
Seawan Kirkpatricks. The following month, Gary Nolan the Sault Talks
in New York, says there's evidence. There's more than evidence.

(01:32:25):
He's one hundred percent convinced they are etis here walking
among us. There's crash retrieval that have been reverse engineers.
And then we get David Grush coming out on June
fifth and the Deep Briefs saying I've talked to people.
There is a cover up in place. The American people

(01:32:47):
have been lied to. We have dozens of UFOs and
secret bases have been reverse engineered. There are alien bodies.
This is like a science fiction movie, except that it's not.
It's the reality we are waking up to. And like
what you said earlier, I really like this. Like we

(01:33:09):
it's like those ships coming in from you know, these islands,
and they use the islanders. The natives don't recognize it
because there's never been anything like it. We don't really
recognize what this situation is. We try to put into
the alien box, but that that's not that's not the reality.

(01:33:30):
This is not in any box we can cognize. At
this point. We can call them alien, but that that
doesn't mean anything because we just think of science fiction movies. This,
what is coming now lows the paradigm of possibilities we've
considered out of the water. This is beyond the imagination,

(01:33:54):
and so the actuality of what we're coming into create.
It's a new fabric for the unknown to lay itself
out in a form that will be a renaissance. Is
my feeling for humanity.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
I agree with that entirely. And also along those lines,
if you look at the glyphs, to me, that is
a form of communication, transportation, energetic telepathy, so many other things.
But I think before we can employ the glyphs and
what they are here for we need to do, as

(01:34:32):
you so beautifully expressed, become cognizant, because well, the glyphs
are so there are writings, ancient writings all over the
walls that have been to date indecipherable, and those and
it seems to me in my experience that is a

(01:34:55):
embedded form of communication, transportation, elevation.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
And right, where are these glips? Do you mean in Egypt?
But where are the glasses?

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Yeah, they're in Egypt, there in Perue. They're in certain
places a lot of times in accordance with the Nasca
lines and so many other things.

Speaker 13 (01:35:14):
They are.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
They are in the places where you're going to find
the ancients have made themselves a little bit more well known.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
Yeah, so maybe they've laid out the information for this
time and we are now everyone thinks they're coming into
their time. But this may be the time where where
the awakening of humanity takes place and those ancient writings
are finally deciphered and realize we've just been talking to

(01:35:43):
ourselves from the future. That's one possibility. You know, anything
is possible, because we're moving into the unknown, where it's
full of excitement and and untold reality. We have yet
to consider when people think of the future, they project

(01:36:05):
some fearful knownness. But the future is full of untold, unimagined,
unrealized potential. And this is the direction. This is the
threshold we are at and it's very exciting.

Speaker 10 (01:36:21):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
And I want to go back to your book Making Contact. Yeah,
for those people that don't understand the things that we're exploring,
for those people that are skeptical, and for those people
that are well involved in this world. What do you
want people to know about making contact? What do you

(01:36:44):
feel is so important to share? Because there's a lot
to me, it would be very difficult to choose.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
No, No, making contact is not just making contact with
extraterressas whatever that is, because I think we now establish
the fact that we don't know what this is. It's
making contact with the mystery that we are. We are,
I said, the extra trust, but we are the mystery

(01:37:14):
of the unknown who we are? What is generating a
life force in that body there for you, Greg is
as the mystery. So when we make contact with that,
we're getting closer to whatever it is that is visiting
us from who knows where. So make contact with yourselves,
making contact with the earth as a living being. Making

(01:37:37):
contact with each other and making contact with the infinite
unknown calls us into an alignment that expands our intelligence
are and our consciousness and the greater possibilities for humanity
as a whole. That's the idea. We're realizing we're a
collective force of consciousness where each of us a part

(01:38:01):
of a greater being, and so the super organism of
humanity and something I quote Bruce Lipton on in my book,
we are not humans until we create humanity. Humanity is
when we all realize we're all cells in one greater
human vehicle. And when we reach that level of humanity

(01:38:24):
and speak and realize we're all a oneness of consciousness,
then we can really meet the other onenesses from other
planetary star systems to form the next level of super organism.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
And right, this is why I describe you as not
only an explorer of consciousness, but somebody who is ushering
in encouraging everybody to do the same. You cannot swim
while you're holding onto the side of the pool. That's right,
You've got to let go and go into the unknown

(01:39:01):
and therefore discover what is it's right and go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
No people fear the unknown because they're only projecting the
known onto the unknown. You can't fear the unknown because
you don't know what it is. All you can do
is welcome it with open arms because it's not anything
you know. It's none of those fears. It's full of
awakening of the transmutation of the self. If I could

(01:39:32):
say anything about it, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
The transmutation of the self. And you know I talked
about this earlier in the in my monologue. It's that
the only thing that is absolute is change. And if
you were going to take that and put it in
different words, the only thing that's absolute is transmutation. It's
it is that we will change, we will transmute. And

(01:39:58):
the thing that causes grief, the thing that causes hardship,
isn't that change. Change is not difficult. What makes change
difficult is the way we put a death grip onto
the past because we're holding on to that side of
the pool believing that we know, when the only absolute
is that we don't know. So let's go find out.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Exactly. That's the excitement of human incarnation, of existence, of experience.
We've come into farm to make known the unknown. That's
one of the greatest things ramp has ever said. That
was the first teacher I had. You're here to make
known the unknown through your experience of reality, and when

(01:40:42):
you do that, you expand everyone's consciousness and we're really
at a new frontier here face the final frontier.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
Nice way to bring in full circle. All right, Alan,
we are at that place. The last question in the evening,
is there anything that you'd feel remiss in if you
didn't share with our listeners this evening?

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Well that this is up to all of us. Each
of us is at this threshold. It's not a few
people into UFOs or whatever you want to call it.
Each person can wake up tomorrow with the potential to
discover something different about themselves, about the world. It's the

(01:41:29):
fabric of reality and perception is expanding and try something
different tomorrow. Go someplace you've never been, do something you've
never done before, read a book that you've There's so
much that is eating It's like it's not overwhelming, but

(01:41:50):
there's so much in this moment of expansion that we're
in to embrace this unknown that it's full of excitement.
For me. It is I mean, maybe people listening, uh,
the possibility of adventure of learning of of you know,

(01:42:12):
I don't really have time for anything else. I mean,
it's just so full. There's so many books on myself.
I want to read and learn and explore and think
about and expand my my cognitive awareness to know the unknown.
So this is this is our destiny, and it's probably

(01:42:34):
the best thing I can think of doing. So what
else do I want to expand share?

Speaker 7 (01:42:40):
Is that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
We're ready to meet these beings on an even playing field.
There's nobody out there's nothing out there greater than uh,
greater than you. They may be smarter, they may be
technologically more advanced, but when you meet them face to face,
the sentients of consciousness is equal. So that's how we

(01:43:06):
have to approach these beings. There are nothing to worship there.
They may be teachers, but they are us on a
soul level. So it is my feeling. And so when
you meet them, there's don't be overwhelmed. Drop into yourself,
make contact with yourself and meet who's ever coming to

(01:43:28):
you or whatever form that is material now material, and
know that you're equal to that. And that will set
a new playing field for humanity to go into a
future that is actually now fast approaching with these congressional hearings,
with what the Senate's doing with new UAP bills that

(01:43:51):
are being passed in the House, with the future being
rolled out saying guess what, folks, whereas not alone, We've
never been alone, and we're part of a bigger cosmology
of awareness, and everything's going to change. It's going to
be a whole new world. I think for better when

(01:44:14):
we wake up to the fact that we're part of
the stars, that that wonder that I was looking at
when I was five years old, I now get the
sense we're part of that somehow doesn't quite make sense,
but I feel like I'm closer to the tree than ever.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
You know, your book Making Contact has been described as
there is no greater foundation to really get yourself prepared
for ushering in the new phenomena and go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
I'm sorry, no, no, I'm just saying, yeah, Preparing means
the awareness. That's why the subtitle is preparing for the
new realities of extra threat to existence that my publisher
came up with. And it's preparation is the is just
knowing that something that is out there. This is no joke.
This is not a bunch of conspiracy people. This is

(01:45:09):
a government coming forward saying yes, we have craft, we
have bodies, we have technology. This may this, this week
makes it a reality what so many people have suspected.
But now, how do we fit an old power diamond

(01:45:30):
to a new world? What we don't? We have to
change the fabric of what we believe to be true.
And we're in that process right now. And it may
take a little while, may take centuries, but we are
in the change. This is what's so amazing about this
point in human civilization that something new now for something

(01:45:55):
completely different as.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
Right, absolutely and when look you guys, if this is
what your appetite at all, and I can't see how
it hasn't, go check out Paul on YouTube. Paul what's
that again? I'm sorry, Alan, I.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
So you meant what you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
No, I just just it was on brain aneurysm.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
That what's my Yeah, check out my YouTube YouTube dot
com slash New Realities. I will have my New Reality
dot com website back up soon.

Speaker 14 (01:46:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
You can check out my Facebook, my Instagram. But the
book does have a lot of my years of research
into it, and it's not just my work. This chapter
in there by Whitney Strieber by Linda Moulton Howe By.
Actually there's a previously unpublished chapter by John Mack in there.

(01:46:56):
And John Mack was a Harvard psychiatrist to talk to
people about their abductions, their contact and he said, these
people are not crazy. And that made it okay for hundreds,
maybe thousands of other people who come forward and say yes,
I had experienced And and John matt was a real

(01:47:16):
hero and legend in the field, and there was something
that had not been published on his website. I talked
to his archivist and his family gave me a permission
to print it in my book for the first time.
What was what that chapter is called the Sittleties and
Implicant Order of Contacts. And so John Mason there, which

(01:47:39):
I was really honored to have because I knew John.
He was one of the brilliant minds in the field. Actually,
I find everyone who's looking into this to be super intelligent.
They're not just, they're not just.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
They're not these people have consciousness or intelligence and integrity
and intention. And the book go ahead, We're running out
of time.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
I'm sorry, hey, no, no, no for you, and I
think for us and what this conversation is about this
is the most intellectually challenging field that anyone can embrace
because it's not been formed, it's not it's not been realized.
It's totality. So we're all trying to figure this out

(01:48:28):
from many levels of perception. And so this is why
we need the most intelligent people that are around to
look at how do we formulate a new reality that
the rest of the world can accept as actuality.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
So, Alan, I got to tell you, we could talk
forever about this. This is exciting because it really is
based in awakening to a grander, greater, larger consciousness. And
I am incredibly grateful that you stayed up late on
the East coast and you shared your wisdom and your

(01:49:08):
knowledge and your passion with us. Thank you very much
for joining us.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
I really enjoyed it. Thank you for bringing out that
passion because it is really exciting what's happening right now.
We are witnessing history unfold, Greg and you're a part
of I'm part of everyone listening is a part of it.
So know that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Thank you very much. All Right, you guys, you know
the gig There are a lot of people that work
their tushmos off to put this show on again. Joscelyn
is showing up like a rock star and getting all
kinds of things done, and so many others work behind
the scenes. But most of all, I'm grateful to you,
the listening audience. This show doesn't exist, it doesn't flourish

(01:49:53):
without you and your participation. For that and so so
much more, we are hugely grateful you've been listening to
in her journey with Greg Friedman, good night.

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Mm hm angie car ky your brab up and na.

Speaker 16 (01:50:34):
Maka dnake jacky bar nanaga charan gahey brab up and
name suk kaparo in the.

Speaker 10 (01:51:00):
Honga car.

Speaker 16 (01:51:03):
Kihol braba upenna maga dyak rocky bar nanaga gardan kah
braba upena Sukaparo thiner, thinner, thinner tinder hongue car kihol

(01:51:58):
braba upenna baga dyak rocky bar.

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Not a good childen go hay brab up.

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In the.

Speaker 10 (01:52:20):
Zucapio in a ny car kihood brother up.

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In a.

Speaker 16 (01:52:37):
Baga danak rocky bar, not a good gilden.

Speaker 10 (01:52:49):
Gohay brab up and sucapio in a little inn all
inn all in all, inn all.

Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
In all the Songboy You do.

Speaker 10 (01:53:55):
Im Sungwa grou.

Speaker 16 (01:54:00):
Soundwagging, ladle on the sunwagging on the song, hudle on song,
Raging Honi song, ladle on shy.

Speaker 10 (01:54:23):
On the song, dle on Swagging down song Lager mudle
on sunwack on the song dle on swag on the

(01:54:47):
song dle on some log on songwa ownswack and U
s a Sun.

Speaker 8 (01:56:31):
I don't believe.

Speaker 10 (01:56:33):
It's awful nothing. It's not just written in the sand.

Speaker 8 (01:56:41):
Sometimes I thought you felt too much when you crossed
into the shadow l.

Speaker 15 (01:56:50):
Andriver was over flow and the sky was firy red.

Speaker 8 (01:57:00):
You gotta play the hand that's tells you. That's what
the old man always says.

Speaker 10 (01:57:14):
Cast A side.

Speaker 8 (01:57:16):
Gets us sun. The spirit chosen.

Speaker 12 (01:57:27):
One in my dream of pipes will please in my
dream my lost friend.

Speaker 8 (01:57:40):
Come down, Gabriel and blow your ward.

Speaker 15 (01:57:45):
Someday we will need again Aho.

Speaker 21 (01:57:54):
Cast a side gets us Sun, Susie, all of it es, all.

Speaker 10 (01:58:11):
The range, all the bloo. Since that night yoummially in
the sun.

Speaker 22 (01:58:26):
Like o's the sad pscyparish.

Speaker 10 (01:59:30):
On the.

Speaker 4 (01:59:32):
Z n.

Speaker 10 (01:59:40):
You So, if you're up, can you touch me?

Speaker 12 (01:59:50):
Can you see me?

Speaker 9 (01:59:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:59:55):
If you're up there.

Speaker 12 (01:59:58):
Can you reach me?

Speaker 8 (02:00:00):
Layer flowers in the snow

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