Inner Journey with Greg Friedman and return visit with Tina Erwin

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hi, this is Greg Braden, Jack Canfield, Mariam Williamson, James
Van Frog.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hi. Everyone, this is Neil Donald Walsh and I'm happy
to tell you that you're listening to Inner Journey with
Greg Friedman. Stick around. Your life will change any minute.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
All right, you heard the man. Here we go. You
are listening to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman on k
x F M one O four seven, broadcast from Laguna Beach, California,
for Laguna Beach, California and for the entire world. Y'all

(00:43):
know the gig sex, relationships, dream interpretation. We talk about
it all. We don't tell you what to do, and
we don't tell you how to do it because it's
not our lives. It's your life. It's your choice, it's
your power. Do you choose to be happy regardless of

(01:06):
what's going on around you, whether these days it's the
four Horsemen of the apocalypse, the plagues whatever you want, fire, famine, flood, pestilence, everything.
There are people that could laugh and flourish during all

(01:26):
of that. Is that you it's not always me. And
I'll tell you what I understand more and more, that
it's all magic. It's all an opportunity. It's all a
gift and it's simply up to us to recognize it,
to realize it, to actualize it. Because Inner Journey has

(01:50):
one primary driving consideration to help you understand you are
the magic, and we just get to help you realize it.
And we'll be back with more Inner Journey right after this.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
There's nothing you.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Can do that can't be done. Nothing have they sing
the copy songs. Nothing you can say that you can
learn how to play.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
The game, see say, nothing you can make can't be made.

Speaker 7 (02:54):
No one you can say you have done.

Speaker 8 (02:56):
You say.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
Nothing you can do, but I can love how to
be you a time?

Speaker 9 (03:02):
Seeze, I need this love, only need this love, this
love love. Love is alady, Holly me this love, Molly

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me this love.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
I need this love.

Speaker 7 (03:53):
Love love is all you need. Nothing in no know,
nothing you can see there is a shown. No way
is the Being's the way you're meant to be.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Geez it.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Is love.

Speaker 9 (04:22):
Love love.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Love is our holy.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Love.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
Love It's already. Love is all you do is all?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Love is a holy.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
Love is a love is a holiday.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
The song love is an.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
What do you think he's trying to say? Welcome back,
you're listening to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman on k
x F M one O four seven, broadcast from Laguna Beach, California.
For the entire universe, you are listening to Inner Journey,
And if you've been listening for any time at all,

(05:48):
you don't know that. I have been going off on
a fairly consistent rant lately, and it's just a different
take on the same old thing. However, it's certainly shifting
my perspective in this world, and it's also shifting my
relationship with life, with love, with abundance, and so many

(06:11):
other things. And foundational to that is a roomy quote.
He said, your task is not to seek for love,
but merely to seek and find all the barriers within

(06:33):
yourself that you have built against it. And I was
just having a conversation with this about this the other day,
because I don't think there's a lack of love in
this world. I believe more and more every single day
there's an abundance of everything in this world. All that

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we need there's an abundance of And our task is
to recognize those things that we classify as barriers, to
shift that and help us understand they're not barriers, they're opportunities.

(07:17):
Every single thing that we encounter is an offering for us,
not against us, not an ordeal, not something that we
need to overcome or kill off, or bury or subjugate,
but instead something that we need to look at for
our own sakes and ask, what is being offered for

(07:38):
me to me in this regard? What can I learn?
What is it that will help me grow? What is
it that's going to help me understand? How better to receive?
Because so often from our primary imprints we have trauma

(07:59):
and drama and all kinds of different things that we
built up through our triumphs and through our tribulations that
cause great How would I say this a point of
view that is preset, that's judging instead of allowing ourselves

(08:20):
to be present with whatever is going on. And in
that point of view, we limit our lives, we limit
our loves, we limit what we're willing to take in
for fear that we may get hurt in the risk.
And I will tell you this as a person that

(08:40):
has spent his entire life jumping into the deep end
before I see if there's any water in that pool,
I'd rather risk than sit on the bench wondering what
could A, what would A? What should a? However, I've

(09:01):
also learned that leaping before I see if there's any
water in there is the equivalent of any other fear
based reaction. So instead I'm learning to ask the universe
what the gift is, and I get the joy every
single day of unwrapping the day, of experiencing the day's

(09:25):
divinity from a different perspective and understanding that abundance in
every single form, whether it's love or finances, or opportunities
or passion or work, whatever it may be, or family
or friends is there. And the biggest barrier between that

(09:50):
and me is my ability to develop, to develop the
muscles to receive. Can I take in? Can I accept?
Can I appreciate? Can I not fear? Can I be

(10:12):
courageous courageous enough to receive as well or better or
equal to what I offer? Because at the end of
the day, it's all love. How do we process it?
How do we express it? How do we receive it?
Are you willing to go beyond your fear? Understanding that

(10:35):
courage is not the absence of fear, but doing going,
experiencing regardless of that fear, And I promise you the
bounty that is there is more delightful, more delicious, more

(10:56):
just more present than you would ever possibly imagine. And
every day that I get to unwrap that and recognize
that is another day where I get to grow in
how much I can live rather than exist. And we'll

(11:17):
be back with our guest Tina Irwin and so much
more in her journey right after this.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
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age and not dreams. I cannot make a single sounds scream,

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have me dot congest too long to touch, we touch displace.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
The soup cool sensing that storm Fred, it's coming up
red in school borring down.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
When I see the vering in our shelter star, we'll
turn in the string and sting unown.

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There is no wood, see no sign, no see se.

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Ras coming down.

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The child just bs b s by all your skill.

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To it.

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Then saves you trust of the child. M stored bar down,

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its let down. It's coming down. The schools coming down.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Me.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I'll see it coming down.

Speaker 12 (15:53):
There's school downs coming down.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Command.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
My name is Marian Williamson, and you're listening to Inner
Journey which Greg Friedman.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
If you are listening live tonight. You chose a very
good evening to do so. Our guest this evening is
Tina Irwin. We have had the pleasure of having Tina
on this program a number of times. She is a
retired US Navy commander, has had a twenty year career
in the Navy working for the Submarine Force, and she

(16:50):
retired at the level of commander. I say this mostly
for a very specific reason. I approached spirituality and all
those kind of things that are beyond what we would
consider the norm with somewhat of a skeptic eye. Now,

(17:10):
if you think I am linear and skeptical about the
way I've approached things, but you ain't seen nothing yet.
Tina Irwin has gone into her endeavors, her studies for
the other side, for those things that are beyond what
we would normally experience with our five senses, with the

(17:33):
same fervor that she did, actually with the same fervor
that she does everything else. That's intention, integrity, a drive
like you have never seen, and the results are absolutely amazing.
She has had I don't know how many books at
this point. She has written The Light Worker's Guide to Healing.

(17:59):
She's written crossing Over Prayer and her latest book is
just off the chart, Psychic Children, Psychic People. Tina, Welcome
to Inner Journey.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Thank you, Greg. I am thrilled to this to be here.
I always love being on your show. It's so much fun. Well,
thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
It is and as I said in your introduction, you
come to this in a much from a much different
perspective that most people do, because most people will come
to this kind of pursuit with a lot more open arms,
open eyes, open intention, and you have come to this

(18:44):
with really hard work and study, and you have been
incredibly discerning and are not subtle about the ways that
you say this is a bunch of hooey and this
is phenomenal. So thank you for that because that adds
so much more gravitas to this world, to these pursuits.

(19:05):
And I'm just going to jump in and start with
the first question I ask everybody, and it's going to
be interesting to see what you come up with. Since
you've been on this show, sheesh, I bet you at
this point half a dozen times over the years, we've
had everybody and their cousin on this program. We've had
you just heard Mary Anne Williamson, Bruce Lipton, Greg Brayden,

(19:25):
so many others, and to a person there was an
event or a series of events that really thrust them
on a significant aspect of their journey. What do you
want to share with our listeners this evening.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I think that's a really good question because we we
who have psychic ability beyond what you know you would
normally think of having it. You having a little bit
more of it than maybe you thought bargain for basically

(20:04):
come to it and the need to do something with
it because something does happen to you that that takes
you down to a core level. And I've had quite
quite a few of them. So it was, g let's
go to the buffet table and pick which one. So

(20:28):
the one that I feel drawn to tonight was the
ghost we had in Charleston. My husband and I had
been stationed in Italy and we returned to the United
States and we were stationed in Charleston, South Carolina, and

(20:50):
everything in Charleston is haunted. I mean that just kind
of goes with the territory. It's a beautiful, you know,
super gorgeous city. You know, there's a quiet gentility about it,
and you know in nineteen seventy nine and the Charleston heat,
you know, we're looking for a house to buy. It's

(21:11):
our first house, and we're looking and some places I
knew were haunted. I walked in and it's like, yes,
this is haunted. I an live here. But we walked
into this particular house and all I could think of was, well,
I really hate the outside, but I could live with
the inside. I'm so horribly mourning. I have so much

(21:32):
morning sickness. Somebody shoot me. Now, let's make a decision
and get on with it. And so we bought this house. Troy,
you know, went to Navigator School. And I am stuck
alone in this house new duty station, pregnant, is hot,
I don't know what I'm doing. I'm waiting for household

(21:54):
goods to arrive from Italy. And the first night this
place is profoundly haunted. This house was eighteen months old.
It was basically a brand new house.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
When you say profoundly haunted, that's an interesting turn of phrase.
What does that mean.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
It means that this particular ghost did it everything you
can think about. We had pounding on the walls, running
down the hall, fevery Oh my gosh, the things this
guy stole was just incredible what he stole and the

(22:40):
things that took place were so unnerving for all of us. Eventually,
my sister came to live with us while she was
in college, and was nice because I had somebody to
help me with the new baby. And then I got
a master's degree after that while you know, between you know,
ages before he turned one, because I was I was bored.

(23:02):
So I got a master's degree. Anyway, I got an MBA,
and so I I had situations where, you know, my
sister and I had a party and you know, somebody
brought a bottle of a twoth Rose eight, you know,
just as you know, thank you for having me gifts,

(23:25):
and you know, we put it on top of the refrigerator,
on top of the TV, and you know, we cleaned
up the house, went to bed, and my husband was
at sea, my daughter, my sister's boyfriend left and we're
sitting on the bed and I put you know, the
baby to bed, and we had a pair of Siamese cats,
and all of a sudden, we hear someone who's in

(23:48):
the kitchen doing dishes not a little bit pots and
pants clanking and glasses clanking, and the cats. It was
like if you stuck them in their tails and a
life sock. As they go, they're so popped up. Their
eyes look like giant blue marbles. And they looked at us.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Like, I'm terrified and I have a cat.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Just they were just these cats were so so afraid.
So I said, okay, so they hear it too. The
house was alarmed. We had a big alarm system on
that house, and we could hear. I mean, there was
somebody in the kitchen. We're not talking miles away, it's
down the hall. And my sister and I are so terrified,

(24:42):
it's like we can barely breathe. And so fortunately there
was a phone in the bedroom, so I called the police,
and my sister called her boyfriend and we told the
police that her boyfriend was going to be there, and
they drove up up. We could see out the window
and I had to walk down the hall to turn

(25:03):
off the alarm. And I to this day I will
remember my terror because I thought, if I walked down
the hall, what if I see what's there? I mean,
I didn't know. I didn't know what I was going
to do about that. So I turned off the alarm
and the police came in and they checked the whole house.
There was nobody there but the you know, the two

(25:25):
of us, a baby, had a pair of cats. But
they circled the house and they could see that someone
had tried to jimmy the back door open from the bedroom.
We would never have heard that ever, So because the
ghost made a noise like someone was in the kitchen,

(25:47):
we called the police, who scared off the intruder. No
and there was astounding that that happened.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
You know, I know you really fairly, really well at
this point. You're not exactly one to leap to those
kind of conclusions that that was a ghost. What how
did you come to the place where you decided that
that was the specter and that specter was protecting you.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Because he did so many other things. I were my
husband was actually home, we didn't have any We didn't
have as many incidents when Troy was in the house,
but when he was at sea, it would be sometimes
just off the charts. And one morning the alarm clock
didn't go off, and so he pounded on the wall

(26:46):
above the headboard so loudly. Both of us woke up,
looked at the clock and went, oh, my gosh, thanks Jake.
You know, I guess relate to work. And we named
him Jake because we needed to, you know, take some
of the fear out of it and get to a

(27:07):
place where we were feeling that we had some semblance
of understanding what it's like to live with a ghost
in your house. And yes, we considered moving, but I
mean everything in Charleston's haunted. Where is it that you
go and how do you explain that you're moving because
your house is haunted? And so so he did that.

(27:31):
One time, I Troy was at sea. He was on
a ballistic missile submarine and so he was ninety days
home in one hundred and five days at sea. So
one time he was at sea and I was supposed
to drive my dots into work and the common starts.
I didn't want to be late, so I took his

(27:52):
to forty three. When I got home, I had my
car towed to my mechanic in Summerville. And the mechanic
of course gets in the car, and of course it
starts immediately. You know how that happened? And he said, yeah,
but if you had driven the car, the probability that

(28:12):
you would have been in a severe accident is really
high because you know, look at this, you had a
timing belt that was just about to blow. If the
timing belt had blown, then you might have had an accident.
I know a whole lot more about timing belts now
than I had ever wanted to know. Okay, and are
they are quite perishabule, so you do have to be careful.

(28:36):
So he he literally in that case, saved my life.
And and so that was a you know, that was
a good thing. But I it took me a while
to understand that. The first night I was in the house,
I could hear him walking above me and and I'm thinking,

(28:56):
there's a man, and I can hear heavy male footballs.
I'm alone in the house, and I can't move. I'm
just so terrified. And I I mean, I didn't have
any of the ability in nineteen seventy nine that I
have now. I mean, you know, it takes time to
develop some skill sets. And so as time went on,

(29:22):
you know, he decided that he wanted to take a
few more liberties. And I didn't know how I felt
about that those liberties because I just didn't know they
were coming. And one of the liberties he decided to take.
Was he got in bed with me? What? Yep, I
never I have never seen this written before. And I

(29:44):
do describe this in the Ghost Stories book volume one.
It's the very first story and ghost Stories in the
ghost point of View volume one. And in this particular situation,
Troy was at home. He was laying in bed next
to me, and I could feel that Jake was in
the room. This is not a big bedroom, you know,

(30:06):
it's a little it's not a big house. I could
feel that he's in the room and that he's watching me,
and then I can feel him move the covers and
get in bed with me. And I remember quite distinctly
laying there, and I can feel his cold, freepy, icy

(30:34):
body laying next to mine. And I could not breathe.
I couldn't I could not cry out. My voice was
in complete paralysis. I was also I don't know whether

(30:54):
they call it a terrified paralysis or what, but that
would pretty much describe me. I could not move, I
could not I could barely breathe, I could not cry out.
And Troy is, you know, inches away, and no, Troy,

(31:17):
He's next to me, and Troy is on the other
side of me in bed. So I've got this ghost
on one side and Troy's on the other. Was a
really crowded bed. Let me tell you so it was.
It's this terrifying moment where you realize, you know, we
all think we're in control of things like you know,
probably not. I'm not in control of this situation. I'm

(31:40):
not a person who appreciates being a victim of anything.
And that that was not a happy moment.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
And so how did that resolve? Did I lose you?
I have a feeling we may have dropped the call.
So I tell you what we're gonna do. We're gonna
take a short break and we are going to deal
with the technical difficulties. We'll be back with more Inner

(32:10):
Journey and our guest Tina or when maybe that was
Jake keetnaupset and he cut us off. Who knows more
Inner Journey with Greg Friedman and Tina Irwin right after.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
This Blackbirds Singing in the Dead, I'm nice.

Speaker 13 (32:29):
We take these broken ways. Learn to fly, Oil Life.
You were only waiting for this moment to rise. Blackbirds

(32:50):
Singing in the Dead, I'm nine, were tagging me, sunging eyes,
learn to see.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Oil Life.

Speaker 13 (33:02):
You were all away for this moment to be free.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Black Bird fly, black bird fly into the lie of
dark black. Line.

Speaker 13 (33:38):
Blader fly, flad bird fly.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Into lile of dark black.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Wellcome back. You are listening to Inner Journey with Greg
Friedman and our guest Tina Erwin. We had a few
little technical difficulties, but we are back. Tina Erwin was
a naval commander. She's a retired naval commander, and she
was in the middle of telling a story about her

(34:24):
ghost when she was stationed in Charleston, South Carolina, and
his name was Jake, and he had just crawled into
bed with she and her husband and curious how this resolves,
great cliffhanger place to leave us though, Thanks Tina, Yeah,

(34:44):
it was you know, of course I.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Planned it that way. What happened was Jake decided that
he would hold my hand, and I was terrified enough
that I could feel this cold, cold body. This cold
body is the wrong word. It was a presence. And

(35:06):
then I felt this skeleton. And a ghost doesn't have
physical form. I mean, it's not like I don't understand
the physics of how this worked, but I could feel
I'm holding the hand of a skeletal hand. And it's
epically cold. And then I thought, well, you're now in

(35:28):
bed with me and you're holding my hand, and you know,
when you're this terrified, your mind races to other horrible
things that could happen. But I think he decided at
some point that he tortured me quite enough, so he
began to let go epically slowly as he withdrew his

(35:50):
hand from mine, which I thought must have taken twenty minutes.
This event never happened again, but he let me know
that it's like he was really attached to me, and
he he's completely was completely unnerving I. And by the

(36:10):
time he left and I could actually breathe again, I don't.
I just didn't sleep till morning, and I didn't want
to wake up my husband. And I told him in
the morning because really, what was he what was he
going to do about it?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Well, you know what, sometimes it's not about doing anything
about it and just being there and with somebody else
that's going to, you know, hold a space for you.
Holy smoke, girl, Yeah, it was really.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
He stole one diamond earring. You know, you put your
earrings in the cleaner and you wake up in the
morning and one's gone. The same thing happened with my
husband's contact lenses. He stole my son's shoes, he stole
my wallets, he stole that bottle of wine which he
would never open, but it was still there. And I mean,
there were so many things that happened.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
You know.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
We would go to bed tourney alarm on, and we
would wake up the next morning and every door windows
wide open. It was cold, it was the winter time,
and the alarm was still in the on position it
should have alarmed, and he was able to do that repeatedly.
It was something out of a horror movie. And my
sister got so frustrated and desperate she started doing research

(37:19):
and come to find out, real estate agents knew that
all of Archdale Plantation, which is where we were living.
Anyone can look that up, goes back to a land
grant from the King of England in the sixteen hundreds.
I think it was sixteen oh nine. And my neighbor's
house was as haunted as ours. The guy down the

(37:40):
road had a house over a stable. He heard horses
all night long. Another woman would come down every single
morning and all of her furniture was rearranged. She got
so freaked out she moved. I mean, the stories from
all of the neighbors were epic, and I learned from

(38:01):
all of them about something called predecessor energy. It took
me time to understand this. I was so desperate that
I called the Duke University Parapsychology Division, and I said,
how do you get rid of a ghost? Because in
my mind, if you have a pesky ghost, you get
rid of them like pest control. But unfortunately I really

(38:24):
had the wrong attitude about it, and I just didn't
know it. But they said, well, we have no idea
what you do with them. We just study them. I said, well,
that's no help at all. Well, there's got to be
an easier way to deal with this. And so even
though I had this, you know, super cool career which

(38:47):
I really loved, and the back of my mind was
always this nagging feeling there's got to be a better
way to deal with the dead. Because this as a
ghost who died in the sixteen hundreds and he's and
you know, it's been three hundred and some years now,

(39:08):
and so this person in a pastime is consciously haunting
a person in current time. In real time, we are
being influenced by each other, we're occupying the same space

(39:29):
and we're separated by almost three hundred years, and I
would ponder this, you know, metaphysical and astrophysical concept of time.
So I started studying time in Einstein's concepts of time,
and that I realized that the concept of predecessor energy

(39:51):
is so important and so powerful that I started collecting
these mental notes that someday, you know, maybe I could
I could write some things down, Maybe I could actually
write a book about this. Who knew I would write
nine and be able to to help other people to
understand there is a logic and a physics to all

(40:17):
the things that happened to us. Because they happened to
my son, he heard the ghosts, My husband heard it,
my sister. You know, we had a nanny for you
know I eventually, you know, two children, and you know,
the nannies all heard the ghosts. So this wasn't a
function of do you think you're crazy? There was no

(40:37):
question that it was haunted. And in fact, not long
after we left, the state of South Carolina passed a
law that you had to read, you had to disclose
on real estate documents if your house was haunted. Really, yes,
So that tells me that the state of nor the
state of South Carolina believes in the US.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Interesting, So whatever happened with Jake.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Jake continued to drive us crazy until we got orders
to Norfolk and we hadn't put the house on the market,
and he terrified our real estate agent. She finally was
able to sell the house twenty four hours before closing.

(41:27):
They freaked out, tried to back out. I talked them
into going through with the sale because we already had
a house, and you know, we're paying two mortgages we had.
We had to sell that house. They sold the house,
put it on the market in twenty four hours. Really,
I think that he didn't like them, but he was
bound by the predecessor energy of his life. There he

(41:51):
couldn't follow us to Norfolk, and in a truly bizarre twist,
we moved to a neighborhood called which Point where they
drowned the witches in the seventeen hundred.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I'm going to jump in here for a second because
you've used a term I'd like you to illustrate a
little bit further, if you would, predecessor energy. Can you
talk about what you mean by that? Please?

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Absolutely? I think if people understood predecessor energy a little
bit more, a lot of things in their life would
make more sense. Predecessor energy is the energetic frequency signature
being a little bit scientific, that we all leave behind

(42:41):
in a place where we've been. And one of the
most easy ways to look at this is we've all
seen of an accident site and somebody will leave crosses
or something, but for some reason, they're continue to be
accidents at that site and nobody can figure out why.

(43:05):
Oh my gosh, there's another accident. You know, there's been
three there. Well, the energy of the first accident at
that site wasn't cleared and something. There was an intersection
of toxic energies at a site and that may have
caused the accident in the first place. We also know

(43:27):
this from places where people take their own lives, bridges
where they commit suicide. Well, why do so many places
have one, you know, tragic suicide event after the other,
because the energy of suicide is still there because the

(43:48):
ghosts who took their own lives and discovered it wasn't
any better on the other side once they were dead
are still lingering there. So now that location has a
resonance a frequency of suicide. Or you'll see one building
burn one time and then it will burn over and

(44:10):
over and over. Well, that building has the resonance of fire.
It really disturbs me about the volume of fire in
the Palisades and Altadena and all these places in California.
Right now, that energy of fire lingers. I mean, it
takes a lot of work to clear the energy of fire.

(44:32):
You can do it, but you've got to you got
to really pay attention to it. So the energetic signature
that human beings and events leave behind can affect the
living literally as an echo for hundreds of years.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Now, people that haven't been exposed to you before, haven't
listened to your previous programs here, probably don't know that
you have written a book called The Crossing Over, a
prayer book, and you have helped Do you have the
number now, how many how many beings, entities, ghosts that
you've helped to cross over to the other side at

(45:14):
this point.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Considering I cross over large numbers, it's an uncountable number.
I mean, and that also includes people who have had one.
And I had a radio show host in Belgium. I
did a show with him and he cused the crossing
over prayer walking through the battlefields in various parts of Europe,

(45:44):
saying this prayer over and over and over and over
and over, and he would he could feel things touch him,
he could feel thank you, he could feel this emotion
of release, and he said it was one of the
most remarkable things he's ever known. So we we were

(46:05):
had some really really good FID feedback from the use
of it, and and we even have had one woman
who crossed over a murderer and she had validation after
she crossed him over. So it's part of my goal

(46:25):
was to understand, instead of trying to get rid of
a ghost, what if we helped them or understood why
they are there in the first place. And what if
I could use whatever, you know, humble level of psychic
ability I have to be of service to the dead

(46:47):
and trying instead of trying to just you know, dump them,
you know, or get rid of them, right that That's
really where I ended up going with this is teaching
the basically teaching the living how to help the dead,
because we can't keep going along saying oh we just
you know, you know, burn a little worthless stage and

(47:09):
think you're going to make this happen, because that's just
never gonna work, okay.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
So hence the term ghost helper in reference to you
comes about. And beyond that, I was asking that first
question as a precursor to Now you've talked about areas
where there's accidents or suicides or all kinds of different
events that seem to accumulate because of an energetic resonance

(47:34):
at a place. Are you suggesting or are you saying
straight out that once that primary resonance is helped to
cross over to the other side, that resonance no longer exists,
so that you will see what could possibly be quantified

(47:58):
as a shift from a place where there were a
lot of suicides or a lot of accidents too, now
that same place has little or none of that activity.
Do you have any kind of thing like that? Have
you experienced?

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I had.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I was asked to remote you a house in Upper
New York States, and I had no history of the house,
but when I remote viewed it, there had been I
kept getting the energy of fire, so much fire, and
there were when the first settlers came to that geographic area,

(48:46):
the native people who lived there were kind and accommodating,
and that was a good news. The bad news was
that they eventually became infected with smallpok blankets and the
almost the entire this particular tribe was died. They were

(49:09):
almost completely eradicated. It was really the wrong word. They
almost completely ceased to exist. And so I crossed them
over and I talked to the shaman of the tribe,
and it was it was just a heartbreaking conversation. He loved,
he loved his people. He thought he was doing the
right thing. And the energy of fire that I kept

(49:33):
feeling was they burned the villages, they burned the white
men's houses, they burned the native people houses, they burned
everything to try to get rid of the pestilence. And
we know from historical records that that is true, and
that took place on this property. So I cleaned all

(49:53):
that up, and I cleaned and calmed the energy of
fire over time. And I call the owner back and
I said, I get the impression that you've had several fires.
And she said, how could you possibly know that? And
myself could be psychic.

Speaker 9 (50:07):
And so.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
That got cleared and they never had another fire. Doesn't
mean they want to mean, it's not I'm somewhat clairvoyant,
but not to that degree, nor can I guarantee that.
But she said, we had had one little fire after
the other and one argument. People were always angry and
always irritable. That's the energy of fire, she said. Once

(50:33):
you cleared it, it's like everything calmed down, and we
we couldn't quite put our finger on it. And I said, well,
that's because the energy of fire is an anger energy.
You know, there's anger, and then after it there's just
intense despair. It's very very powerful if you can understand it.

(50:55):
And so when people look at at what took place
before somebody moved in. For instance, when we lived in
San Diego, a neighbor came over, a lady was going
to buy a house in Lake Hewlix, where we lived,

(51:17):
and she said, it's between the house next door to
you and the house across the street from you. Do
you have any insight? And I said, yes. Every person
who's bought the house next to us has gone bankrupt.
Every single family's in like four families. But the people
across the street, we've had one millionaire after the other

(51:37):
live in that house. Financially, you could do very well there.
That's the resonant energy, but the one next to us
is a disaster. So she bought the house across the
street from us, and financially they were in excellent shape
the whole time they lived there, but the people next
to us. Finally the house bay went into foreclosure because

(52:01):
too many people went under and I asked the broker
who actually owned that house and was going to refurbish
it and sell it, if I could clear it for him,
and he said, oh my god, yes, he said, I
believe in those things. I cleared that house that had
some pretty dark things in it, and then after that

(52:22):
the people who owned it. No one went bankrupt after that,
so it was a nice service to be able to help.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
We are coming up close to our time where we're
going to have to take a break for the top
of the hour. However, before we do, I'd like you
to help people get to your website and help them
understand some of the offerings that you put forth.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Okay, thank you for that. I have two websites, Tina
Erwin dot com and it's Erwin with an E and
ghost Helpers dot com, and all of my books are
on both those websites, and they're also available on Amazon
and they're in. They're in all three formats, you know,

(53:09):
print on a man kindle, and audiobook. I think there's
one just I'm finishing one right as we speak to
make it too. It'll be the ninth audiobook. And so
I do offer some services, and I do work with
private clients, and that's that's what I do. I help

(53:29):
people understand and some people just need something simple and
I know how to help that direct them and maybe
they don't need me. Maybe if they use a book,
then they will have a tool for the rest of
their lives.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Now to get a little bit better flavor of some
of the things that you offer. How many of your
titles of your books do you remember? Can you remember
them all?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Will you share with us please?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I wrote The Light Worker's Guide to Healing Grief, The
Light Worker's Guide to Everyday Karma, ghost Stories from the
Ghost point of View, Volumes one, two, and three. I
wrote another book called Karma and Frequency, and then the
seventh book which is Sole Evolution, Past Lives and Karmic Ties.

(54:25):
The eighth book is The Crossing Over a Prayer Book,
and the ninth book that came out in November is
Psychic Children, Psychic people a key to protecting and understanding intuitives.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
And we are going to talk about that so much
in the next hour, because you know, I just got
that book this week and I dove in feet first,
and it is it is a it's like going to
school if everything you ever wanted to learn about what

(54:59):
it's like to be psychic and how to navigate those waters.
This book is absolutely phenomenal. We are here with Tina
Irwin and you are listening to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman,
and we'll see you on the other side. I'll get so.

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My name is Greg Friedman. I am a modern version
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For years, I have taken people all over the world
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Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Terrifying to look at our fears, and sometimes even more
so to look at our strangers. I take you out
into the wild, into the unknown foreign Inner Journey. All right,
you guys, buckle up. If you did not listen to

(01:01:25):
the first hour, you're missing out on Jake the Ghost,
and so so much more. Tonight we are hanging out
with Tina or when Tina was is a retired naval
commander who was working with the submarine fleet on the
Eastern Seaboard, And as I often do, I say that

(01:01:46):
as a way to help others understand that she is
now a ghost helper and does so many things to
help people with ghosts and help the ghosts themselves, and
help people with psychic abilities, help building them understand how
to develop their psychic cabilities, how to live in harmony

(01:02:06):
with their psychic abilities, and more important, more importantly, just
how to live in peace on this planet. Tina, welcome
back to Inner Journey.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Thank you so much. I love this show. It's so
much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
You know you've done it so often. I should just
have you as a guest host intermittently. So Miss Tina,
you have dealt with the weird, the wonderful, and the
wacky for shesh. What is this now? Thirty forty years
you've been doing this in one form or another.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
I know that you've encountered some strange things. Well, let
me let me ask you a few questions and maybe
you could tell us a story about them. How did
you understand your own psychic abilities? And also of incredible
curiosity to me, how did you understand and develop your
remote viewing capabilities? And first, if you wouldn't mind start

(01:03:08):
starting by explaining to people what remote viewing is, I'd
appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I'm like, let me rephrase that everybody's psychic. I just
was a little bit more psychic than I realized.

Speaker 9 (01:03:26):
And I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Have always been interested in the occult, which is not
necessarily evil. It's just sort of the secret or the hidden.
And I wanted to understand life after death because I
didn't understand how physics could exclude life after death. You know,
if energace me either created nor destroyed, what happens after

(01:03:49):
you die? And since I knew I could see a ghost,
and I knew that I could hear or have been
helped by beings on the other side who looked out
for me in many different ways and occasions, and I
had had premonitions of things that came true, and I

(01:04:09):
had had you know, I'd saved my husband's life several times.
And I didn't understand how this worked. So I studied.
There's some amazing authors out there, and I read everything
I could get my hands on. And the more I read,
the more I began to understand myself and other people

(01:04:31):
who had this ability. Then I had to learn, Okay,
what do I do with this? But wait a minute,
I have a Navy career, so not much I can.
You know, I can't really use it in the maybe
except that you have psychic ability. You get a sense
about people and places and things. And then I started
noticing just how freaking psychic submariners are.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Okay, how did that come about?

Speaker 11 (01:05:00):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I had I how't you know? I worked for the
Submarine Force for twenty years. Some of the finest men
you can possibly imagine, men who have a successful mission
if they never fire a weapon in anger, and you
know they would, I don't know what it is. People

(01:05:21):
talk to me and they would tell me they had
a feeling about something, And like the captain who said,
you know, I knew this navigator was bad. I knew
something was coming. I knew it was going to be bad.
I tried to tell the chain of command. I wrote
letter after letter, I cited everything, and you know what,
no matter what I did, I couldn't seem to prevent

(01:05:45):
that collision with that Russian submarine in the Mediterranean. And
I could feel it. I knew it. I couldn't stop it.
And I could tell that that particular a little incident,
not not. I mean, obviously you're gonna get relieved, because

(01:06:06):
you know, you and a Russian submarine had really sucks.
You know, that's not going to make anybody's day. I'm
sure the Russian captain, you know, didn't didn't farewell out
of that situation either. Met is a little bit crowded.
Then I had other men talk to me about I
had this feeling this was going to happen, and I

(01:06:28):
didn't know what to do about it. I had one
guy tell me that something horrendous was going to happen
if he went to this particular submarine, and that's an
exceptionally long story. He almost died. And the two other
men who went to the submarine told their families that
if they went to that submarine. They would never come
back alive. And they're dead now. They both died on

(01:06:52):
that submarine and so they they knew they could feel it.
And I want to to understand what is that? What
is that? And then this this book I just wrote,
Psychic Psychic Children's Psychic Psychic People. I talk about premonitions,

(01:07:14):
and I I do mention men because no one gives
men enough credit when it comes to psychic ability, and
men are amazingly intuitive or psychic. Men have a gut
feeling and the men who pay attention to it to
the best of their ability end up saving their own

(01:07:37):
lives or the lives of others. And sometimes that feeling
isn't logical. And so you know, you ask me, how
how do I come up with all this? It's this
thinking outside the box? How did this super left brained
nuclear engineer have this feeling act on it? Just a

(01:08:03):
real quick, really quick story. I had a trying our
first married we were living in bachelor officer quarters because
there was no quarters for us because married officers didn't
exist in the seventies. And so this lieutenant came down
and he said, you know, I think they're going to
court martial me, and I said for what, And he said, well,

(01:08:28):
I forgot to ask permission. So he told me this story.
He told actually my husband and I told us both
the story. He was on watch on a fast attack submarine.
The submarine was operating in a place called autech au
Tec and it's called the Tongue of the Ocean, and
it parallels the East coast of the United States, and

(01:08:50):
it's this it looks like this v and it parallels
the East Coast, and they do runs and a lot
of training and exercises in that part of the ocean.
And so the submarine is operating thinking that they are
parallel to the East coast, but they're going at flank

(01:09:11):
speed and they're perpendicular, which means that they're about to
have a catastrophic head on collision and nobody knows it.
So this lieutenant is asleep, and out of a sound sleep,

(01:09:31):
this man leaps up, runs to the watch station and
says to the officer of the deck, I relieve you.
And the guy says, dude, you got another twenty minutes
then your wreck go back to But he did no, no,
I relieve you right now. He says, Okay, He turns
to the helmet and he says, all back full, rightful rudder.

(01:09:52):
So that when the submarine collided with the underwater mountain,
it was a glancing blow. He saved the lives of
one hundred I think it was one hundred and thirty
seven men, and you know, a billion dollar summary. But
you know that's beside the point. And he was court

(01:10:13):
martialed for that. And you know, I point this out
because he was the hero of the day and you go,
my god, why did the Navy court martial And it's like, yeah,
but it's the Navy. He was exonerated in the court martial.
He was exonerated. The captain the navigator didn't captain the
excell and the navigator didn't fare so well. Their careers

(01:10:35):
were pretty much toast. How they could be that far
off and incorrect was almost inconceivable, but they were. And
so my point is that this man had a feeling
that was so powerful and so staggering he it overwhelmed

(01:10:56):
him and he got up and he saved everybody. Some
men were injured when they had had that you know,
glancing blow collision, but the submarine was able to trim
the ship, meaning bring it back to level surface. The
ship limp back to Norfolk and they repaired. I saw

(01:11:17):
that ship. It eventually came up to New London and
I saw that ship in the shipyard. It looked like
someone had crumpled aluminum foil and this is h y
eighty steel, which is high hy meaning high yield. I mean,
this was astounding. Those people didn't die. What was that voice?

(01:11:37):
What was that message? This man doesn't understand why he
got it. He doesn't understand why he was the one
that went through this, because after that he got out
of the Navy because the karma of his being there,
the mission he had in that moment was done. What

(01:12:00):
he came to do, it was over. He went on
to another career. And when people say, oh, you know,
men aren't psychic, Oh my gosh, they are. They deserve credit.
They deserve acknowledgment too, They just address it differently. And
I just worked with some of the most remarkable and

(01:12:21):
wonderful men in my career, and I got to do
some pretty stounding things, and so I wanted to write
a book that addressed some of the things that happened
to people. And then along the way, I had so
many people with psychic ability or they were psychicist children

(01:12:45):
and they were punished, and I wanted to do I
wanted to create a book that would give them some
insights so that they would know that they're not crazy
and they're not alone, and that there are tools they
can use that will help them to get through the
day and help them understand who they are, even if

(01:13:09):
some of the abilities seem unfathomable.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
I want to absolutely dive into this book, and I
honestly think that it's going to take three or four
shows to go through the entire book. However, there is
one question and I've never asked you on or off air,
and it was about how did you develop your remote
viewing skills?

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Oh? I forgot to answer that. Okay, well, I it's
a very odd thing to say, but somebody decided to
kill me psychically. I was psychically attacked on such a
vicious level that I was within two hours of death

(01:13:56):
and it was terrifying. And that's a long story I
won't go into. But I to a little help from
one of my brothers, I was able to figure out
what was happening and he helped me. I just don't
know if I would have managed. And we were able

(01:14:18):
to stop the magician from attacking me. And what we
learned to do was to return the energy. I didn't
know you could do that. I mean, it was so
I thought I was going to have a computer company.
What did I know? And I'm designing software. It was
so much fun, but that wasn't what I was supposed

(01:14:38):
to do. So after we got this guy to stop
harassing me psychically, I I didn't realize that what I
did was return his energy to him. And it was
such toxic energy because because under spiritual law, you have

(01:15:02):
the right to defend yourself, and it was such toxic
energy that it killed him. And the moment of his death,
I didn't realize there was such a thing called AKA chords,
which of course I know that now, but I didn't
know that then, And you can see how much I

(01:15:23):
had to learn. And then as this man is dying
and leaving his body, I was connected to him through
the ACCA cords, which I didn't know I needed to
disconnect from. And then the next thing I know, I
can see him leave his body. I am doing a

(01:15:45):
form of remote viewing, only I didn't know that's what
it was called. And he was in a different part
of San Diego. I saw the ambulance come, I saw
his wife come. I saw him in the ambulance. I
saw him leaving his body, and then I crossed him
over because my brother was with me when this. My

(01:16:07):
brother and my husband were with me, and they said.
My brother says, you know, we should help this man
and cross him over. I said, okay, And so as
we're crossing him over right before he stepped into the light,
which was, by the way, pretty super cool, he says
to me, why did you help me. I've worked night
and day to kill you. And I said, well, you know,

(01:16:30):
thank goodness, you're not mine to judge, right, it says
way beyond my pay grade. Somebody else will take care
of that. But maybe if you crossed over, maybe the
next time you make a different choice, because you know, dude,
this time you chose poorly, so maybe next time you

(01:16:50):
can do better. And after that, I wasn't the same.
I could see through walls and doors, but it was exhausting.
It was so hard to do this. When people talk
about remote viewing, they don't talk about how much energy
it takes to do this. The brain uses more insulin

(01:17:15):
than any other body organ I don't know if most
people know that, but that is a remarkable thing when
you think about it. And when you're remote viewing, you
are using parts of your brain that you didn't even
begin to think existed. You're using a level of concentration

(01:17:36):
and discipline because you have to focus in another dimension
for a certain period of time, and you're still conscious
of what's going on around you, who is around you,
but you're also aware of what's happening in a different dimension.

(01:17:57):
And eventually I got to the point do it through
stacks of time, so I can remote view through anywhere
from six hundred to one thousand years ago, if that's
what was required. But that took me years to develop,
and I didn't understand how you build up the energy

(01:18:20):
potential of a third eye and how careful you have
to be of that chakra. We have these wheels in
our body that are energy wheels that manage the energetic body.
I can do a dissertation on that. But when you're
remote viewing, all the chakras are helping to focus your

(01:18:44):
energy where it needs to be. So it's not enough
to just look at a different location anywhere on the
planet or back through a stack of time. If you
are really skilled, you are able to deal with the
dead that you find and clear the property from four

(01:19:08):
or five hundred years ago. That takes a much higher
level of skill and it's exhausting.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
All right, I tell you what, I'm gonna just cut
you a little bit short in the interest of sharing
some time about your book. We are going to take
a short break and we are here with Tina Irwin.
If you want to find out more about Tina Irwin,
and I have and I would if I were you.
It's Tina Erwin dot com, Erwin with an E or

(01:19:37):
ghost Helpers dot com. And the book we're going to
talk about is amazing. It's called Psychic Children, Psychic People.
And we'll be back with more Inner Journey and more
Tina Erwin right after this.

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tell you too much of you and see what you're
doing to me.

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I thank you, mine will let yourself.

Speaker 7 (01:21:12):
Three people walking around.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
After this thing, games, big school kind of things. Other
people losing mine way. I'm again, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
Don't do yours gamething. Think about what's trying to do me?
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Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
You need me.

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
Again?

Speaker 8 (01:21:36):
Bring about to sing to the ba, Bring about trying that?

Speaker 6 (01:21:58):
Hey, wommst the only case I'm not angling?

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
But I don't astray my lesson.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Alright, Here we go, Here we go. You are listening
to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman on k x f
M broadcast from Laguna Beach, California, for Laguna Beach and
for the entire world. Tonight, we're hanging out with Tina Erwin.
Tina Irwin is a retired naval commander who worked with

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the Eastern Seaboard Submarine Fleet. It was a mouthful this
time for some reason, and she has dove deep into
different aspects of ghosts and psychic abilities. And so many
other things that are considered a little bit outside of

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the regular dimensions that we deal with, but in fact
they're not. We deal with them, and Tina Erwin brings
awareness to them really like nobody else I know. Tina,
Welcome back to Inner Journey.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Thank you so much for such a blast.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
All right, your latest book, and I've said this to
you separately, this seems like you're magnum opus. It is
so incredible, such an comprehensive it could be called everything
you ever wanted to know about psychic ability, how to
develop it, and how to work with it, but we're
afraid to ask it has I mean, it's almost five

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hundred pages, but it's not like you have to sit
down and read it all at once. There are so
many different sections that you could go to that you
could look through the table of contents and you could
see things like discovering that I'm psychic, or you could
scroll down and then see things like past life regression,

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what is psychic you smell? Or clare alliance. There are
so many different things in this book that you could
literally go to the part that is resonating for you
and create an understanding and at least some kind of
rudimentary ability to work with these powers. Just by reading

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this book. It's absolutely phenomenal. And I've read all of
your books, This to me is by far and away
the most amazing thing that you've ever let forth onto
the world. Thank you for writing this, well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
I had a deep and abiding desire too. I don't
mean this to sound corny, to really be of service
to people who were going about their everyday life and
wake up one day and discover that their child, grandchild,
or spouse has a psychic ability. They don't even know

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that there's a name for. And and I've had clients
tell me that they were looking for a book and
a voice told them to, you know, look at one
of my books, which I thought was kind of unnerving
and just just a little bit and again that the

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whole goal is to give people a very different view
of psychic ability and a very different view of spirituality,
so that they can build a deep and abiding connection
to God and to realize that there's nothing bad or

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evil about having this, and that they can do this
and they don't have to be afraid anymore. It was
really that's really what I wanted. I didn't want to
see children punished because they could see through walls and doors,
And oh my gosh, the stories I have been told

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where people will say, you know, I have the psychic
ability and I can't tell anybody but you, And I said, well,
you really can. It's it's just that sometimes you have
situations where some parents are jealous that their child can
do this. Some parents are embarrassed and humiliated that their
child or teenager can do this, or they themselves were punished,

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or their religion has told them that somehow this is evil,
especially if you have a child who has the ability
to perform hands on healing. That truly upsets people. You
don't see that very often, but it does exist, and
they will call. I had one woman with twin four

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year old psychics talk about difficult and her church told
her they were the devil's seed and she should cast
out her children. What. Yes, these are direct quotes from people,
and I wanted, I genuinely wanted to give them some

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tools to counteract what they're being told. That is karmically correct.
You know, I don't want to disparage someone else's faith,
But a four year old who sees a ghost doesn't
make him the devil's feed. You know, a child who
can heal or you know animals come to them, or

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a child who hears animals speaking, you know they're an
animal telepath. Those children aren't evil, those teenagers aren't bad.
They need a little guidance and they need a little help.

Speaker 9 (01:28:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
You might come in with this ability, but it doesn't
come with an instruction booklet. And that's what this book
is designed to be. It's just to help you begin
to understand what are the dangers on the path, what
are the things you can do with it, what are
the things that you might want to avoid, What are
some great tools that can help you. That's why I

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wrote this book so that anyone who's ever had psychic
ability might have a greater level of insight. And it
is written so that you can pick it up and
literally open it on any page and you won't have
to have read the preceding section, which is the hard
book to write.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
I can't even imagine, because essentially every chapter is a
mini book unto itself. And it's the way you present
every single thing is you take what can easily be
considered complex ideas, complex situations, and you make them so

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they're understandable, they're comprehensible, and there are ways to work.
There's action items that go with them, and that's practically
unheard of.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Well, that's what needed to happen. I also have a
glossary in the back where I don't just list my
book books, but there's some amazing authors out there, and
I wanted people to begin to develop that library because
people say, well, I don't even know what to read. Well,

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these are my suggestions. They're not the only ones, but
there's some wonderful authors that have had their own journeys
and their own struggles, not just my books. But if
you're going to really study this to understand, then you
have to be serious about it. It's these aren't parlor tricks.

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You're not just going to do readings. If you're going
to be serious about it, there are things you really
need to learn and to understand, and then your life
will begin to change in wonderful, amazing ways.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Could you talk about one or two of those things
that are necessary to comprehend please.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
One of the big things is spiritual law. And no,
it doesn't mean you have to apply to Harvard law.
It means that you have to understand that there are
limitations on things. For instance, let's look at remote viewing.
I had someone recently tell me that they were going

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to remote view some politician's body. They were going to
remote view that politician's home because they wanted to see
what was going on. Well, if you were to go
to that person's home and break in, that would be
called breaking and entering in civil law. But for some reason,

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they think that if you do it on a spiritual
level it's okay. It's not because what do you do
spiritually earns a little bit more magnified karma. Not to
make someone afraid, but I've had people ask me to
remote view someone and manipulate their mind to get them

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to pay back a debt, manipulate them so that they
would do X, Y or Z, and they were really
angry with me when I said no, I'm not going
to do that. Or someone who called me up and
say I want you to talk to my son and
make him do X. You can be persuasive. How old

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is your son? He's thirty five. I'm sorry. If your
son wants any help for me, they have to call
cannot I can't remotely or psychically interfere with the free
will of another human being. I have to have permission,
and I have to have permission every single time, and

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understanding that tiny little concept makes a huge difference so
that you don't rush off. I mean, there's some medium
in Long Island that's constantly rushing up and saying, oh,
my gosh, you had a pass life as well. She
didn't have permission to say those things to that person.

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She doesn't know how that's going to affect that person.
Another element is, let's say that you have psychic ability
and you think you know something, but you didn't have
permission to tell the person, and you don't know for
sure if it's true. And I do see this a
lot with psychics who say, oh, you had a past life.

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As one woman told her her client that she had
a past life with her father, and her father brutally
raped and murdered her in a past life. In this life,
he's her father, and he's the most wonderful dad she's
ever she could ever have imagined. But she turned against
the man completely because of what this psychic said, without

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any proof, you have psychic ability, you need to be
you need to seek the greatest wisdom and how you
use that ability for the greatest good. The cascade effect
of what that psychic said was terrible. But what makes
matters worse is the woman. You know, the client believed it.

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She didn't challenge the psychic, Caty, you know that, how
can you prove that she didn't challenge the psychic? And
I find that helping people understand that there are some
you know, there's some rules of engagement here. It's a
military term, but it still applies also understanding that there
is science.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Wait, wait, wait before you go on that, it's that
what I hear you saying is essentially no bless obliged.
With nobility comes responsibility. With a greater understanding, comes some
greater understanding also of ethics and morals and ways to
approach this that are humble rather than arrogant, rather than

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for self serving reasons. And it's I would say that
that doesn't only imply to apply to the psychic realm.
It applies to everything. And if we understood that more
in this world, this world would be a dramatically different place.
If we're talking about setting this up so that whatever

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we go into we understand that it begins with respect
and permission and certain considerations that need to be incorporated.
Otherwise it goes into a very shadowy place. And I'm
not saying the otherwise part as this punitive thing. It's
to understand that, as with anything, if you're driving a

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vehicle and you keep it on the road, odds are
you going to be pretty safe? A billion people do
that daily at least. However, if you were to take
it and drive on the sidewalk, odds are something nefarious
is going to happen. Something Mickey is going to happen.
And it's important to understand in the same way, when

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you're approaching this, you need to understand how to operate
the vehicle and abide by the rules, the laws of
the road. Is that a fair assessment of what you said.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
That's a really elegantly stated assessment. That's absolutely true. And
sometimes you have to respect the free will of another
person even if you don't agree with it. And one

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of the biggest ones is healing. I had a case
where a friend of mine's divorce attorney was dying of
breast cancer and she said, you know, do you want
to come to and give her healing? And I said, well,
does she want healing? And the question was, what difference

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does that make I just want you to come down
and give her healing right now. I mean, I love her.
I don't want anything to happen to her.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
And I said, yes, but that ain't your choice.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
What does she want right And she said, well, she
doesn't want anyone to give her healing. But she's not
she doesn't really know what she wants. And I said,
she knows exactly what she wants. There's a reason behind this.
It's not up to me to question her free will.
And sure is the devil. They found somebody else to
come in and give this woman healing, which prolonged her suffering.

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She died. I did end up crossing her over and
found out why she died. It was very It was
a very poignant situation. She didn't want anyone to prolong
her agony. And I have seen this repeatedly. I've been

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asked many many times. I asked, I was asked to
help someone in a coma, as actually has happened repeatedly,
and I work with the subconscious of the client, and
in that case, every single time, the soul told me,
please don't prolong my agony. And I said, then would
you accept assistance in crossing over? If I assigned an

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angel to assist you and stay with you and escort
you at the moment of death. Those were acceptable, But
I asked permission every single time, even if it's my
husband or my sister or my kids, every time, because
they have free will, I cannot violate that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Yeah, I can tell you I have experienced something very
similar recently where I had to ask somebody do you
want to live? And I had a relation to them
saying no, Oh, no, they have to live. They have
to live because of that person's own trauma. And I
had to ask the person going through it if they
wanted to live happily. They said yes, and they are. However,

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they also know as an acceptable response, Now, how did
you ask the angel to come and assist you or
assist them in this endeavor?

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
I have. I have a team that I work with,
and it's one of these interesting things. The more sophisticated
you are, or the longer you've been on this path,
the team that helps you as you navigate mortal life

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with disability grows with you and changes. But let's suppose
that you don't have a team and you're worried about someone.
You can ask them if you can request an angel
on their behalf, and an angel has to be provided.
It's not just you know, it's not just me because
I'm special or something. It's not about that I have

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the capacity to assign an angel with permission, but anyone.
And in this uh in the Crossing of a Prayer book,
which is a companion guide for the Psychic Children book,
because you it's really helpful to have both. There are
prayers for how to request an angel for yourself or

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how to request an angel for someone else. Because people say, well,
I don't want to impose on an angel, they're busy. Yeah,
well they earn karma because they helped you, so go
ahead impose on them. You're going to help them on
their spiritual path as well. So am I answering your question.

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
No, you absolutely are. And my question from here just
because I'm acutely aware of how little time that we have.
If there's one thing or a few things that you
want people to know about this book, Psychic Children, psychic people,
what would that be?

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
This is a book of service. If you have psychic ability,
you have a you're in a unique position to be
of service to the living and the dead. It's an
astounding opportunity and if you can begin to approach it

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with grace and courage, it will change your life. And
the focus of the book is to help anyone with
psychic ability anywhere, or anyone who's who thinks they're not
psychic and they're just curious. It's telekinesis reel you know?

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Can you you know? Or past lives reel? Can you
really see inside somebody's body? And what happens when you die?
What happens, what happens to the mortal body? And by
the way, how does string theory connect to all this?
All of those things are in this book. There's over

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seventy case studies. I didn't want to just say this
means this. I wanted you to have the tapestry of
a story that goes with every single example, every single
ability that I'm discussing, because you have a right to say, well,
how does that work? And when you see any you
read an example, that you hear a story, then your

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mind opens up to what can be. And maybe there's
you have a doubting Thomas or a family member. This
will enable you to speak to them on a different level,
a measured scientific level that will enable them to understand
the physics of metaphysics, and that when you learn how

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to help the dead, you will have done great spiritual service.
And if that's the only things get from this whole show,
that will make my heart very happy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
I love that.

Speaker 9 (01:43:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
The last chapter in your book is titled Your Psychic Future,
and one of the subtitles in there is moving forward.
Help people understand you. They go through whatever, how much
of this book that's appropriate to them. Talk to our
listeners a little bit about moving forward with this information

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if you would.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
You can only take this at your speed. There's no
nobody's going to take your name if you didn't absorb
at all at once. Thirty nine forty one are referred
to repeatedly because that's where all the tools are. If
you have a child who's screaming at night, what can

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you do. If you have a child who thinks they
see a ghost or they're afraid, if you have a
child that won't sleep in their own bed. They're tools
that are are designed to specifically address issues that children
are having, specifically address issues that some adults are having.
If you are the psychic, you can only digest this

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information a little bit at a time. Night seem overwhelming,
goes slowly, but as you're going along, remember this isn't
a gift. This is an ability, and you earned it
life after life, and for some reason in this life

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you're a far more are aware that you have it.
And now that you have this awareness, when you use
it for the highest levels of spiritual service, when you
establish a deep and abiding, personal, private relationship with God,
you're going to elevate yourself and your ability, and amazing

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doors will open up for you. That's the purpose of
this book. That is the future that awaits you. If
you cross somebody over and you get to see the light,
I am here to tell you you aren't ever going
to be the same, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
The websites are Tina Erwin dot com. Erwin is spelled
e rwi n, Tina Erwin dot com and ghost heelpers
dot com and Tina I am astounded to tell you.
And we're up to the last question of the evening.

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Is there anything that you'd feel remiss in if you
didn't share with our listeners this evening.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
One of the things I always say, if you have
a ghost, cross them over, because this will be the
compassion that you will want for yourself, and if you
have the tools, whether it's the crossing over a prayer
book or the prayers that some of the same ones
are in the Psychic Children's Psychic People Book, you will

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elevate your very soul through the aspect of service to others,
and the joy of this will raise your personal frequency.
And what you will gain from this is an insight,
a wisdom, and a compassion that you couldn't have imagined

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could live within you. People talk about the New Age,
that the New Age starts with every one of us,
and when we opened that doorway to love and compassion,
that's how you change the world, one amazing, magical moment
at a time. And Greg, thank you for allowing me

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to stand on my many soapbox.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
I got to.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
Decide it too. Good night.

Speaker 10 (01:47:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
I've always it helps that you're short, because it's easier
to put you up on that show soapbox. Uh, Tina,
you are an absolute joy and a font of knowledge
and a font of wisdom, and I'm always blessed to
spend time with you. Thank you for sharing with our listeners,
and thank you for sharing with me.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
You're very welcome. I am deeply grateful for the opportunity
to have as many people as possible know that there's
some resources out there.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Yeah, I absolutely get it and I agree. So again, Tina,
thank you have a lovely evening and I appreciate you
joining us.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Thank you so much for having me. You have a
great evening, and I know we'll talk soon.

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
Absolutely all right, you guys, you know the gig. If
you have more questions, and man, I'll tell you this,
if I was listening tonight, I'd have a ton of questions.
If you have more questions and we weren't able to
answer them, please feel free to email at Inner Journey,
Greg Friedman at gmail. Inner Journey, Greg Friedman at Gmail.

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And as always, there's a whole bunch of people that
do a whole lot of work in order to put
on the show, and I am grateful to y'all. Most
of all, I'm grateful to you, the listening audience. This
show doesn't exist without you. For that and so so
much more. Thank you you've been listening to Inner Journey

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with Greg Friedman. Good Night,