Inner Journey with Greg Friedman welcomes Jay Azavari

Innr Jouney with Greg Friedman welcomes Jay Azavari, Jay has been working with trauma as both a facilitator and educator for over 25 years. In 2006 he studied vibrational medicine, focusing on resolving dissonances in the physical and subtle bodies.  In 2008 he was introduced to Somatic Experiencing, Jay instantly recognized SE as a powerful tool profoundly reminiscent of his past shamanic experiences. He has a passion for functional movement, human resonance, and the symbiosis that exists within and without.​Jay has been a professional Musician & Music Instructor since 2002. Creating accessibility to all levels of musical capabilities, helping everyone he works with to access their innate harmonic genius.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, this is Greg Braden, Jack Canfield, Mariam Williamson, James
Van Fraud.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hi everyone, this is Neil Donald Walsh and I'm happy
to tell you that you're listening to Inner Journey with
Greg Friedman. Stick around Your life will change any minute.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
All right, here we go. You are listening to Inner
Journey with Greg Friedman on k xf M. You all
know the gig, Sex Relationships, Dream Interpretation and tonight we're
just gonna goof off. But we talk about it all.

(00:46):
We don't tell you what to do, and we don't
tell you how to do it, and there's a very
very good reason for that. It ain't our lives. It's
your life, your choice, it's your power. And sadly, these days,
I see so many people choosing fear, choosing to get

(01:14):
stuck in their trauma and not recognize it's not only
about being able to offer love, but it's being able
to receive love. And that's vital, that's absolutely vital. However,

(01:35):
at the end of the day, it's not up to us.
It's your happiness, it's your life, it's your power, it's
your choice, and what you're going to do with that
is entirely up to you, and all we do every day,
in any day is one thing and one thing alone

(01:58):
to help you understand You are the magic and we
just get to help you realize it.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
We I wanna tell the onema.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
How Fanta put my toy under the tree.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
So Mama, can you.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Tell me how this can be in there a not
in reading the project, not in the jodo, not in
the project. Mamma sent me Dallas bas not things.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
And so I see a chimney with a feel.

Speaker 7 (03:08):
In the morning, you will see all bring no God
that they're paid to me in the party.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
And that is growd, nothing prodect, not.

Speaker 8 (03:37):
Nothing crown.

Speaker 9 (03:38):
I see it was the second you got that medica.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
You are the one.

Speaker 8 (03:51):
There ain't no chimney.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Welcome back. Social media is in a journey with Greg
Friedman in the website is Gregfriedman dot com. I touched
on this earlier, and it's important to come back to
the very very first article that was ever published by
me from me was about fear, false evidence appearing real,

(04:42):
false evidence appearing real. And what I have seen is
an epidemic, and it's very funny. It's not in the
way predominantly that you would think, meaning most people would
think about, Oh, I'm gonna be afraid, so I'm not
going to love anybody. I'm not going to express myself.

(05:04):
I'm not going to offer up. But there's another side
to that coin that I think is even more nefarious.
People are so stuck in their trauma, stuck in their fear,
stuck in their pattern, that it's not about whether they're
willing to give love, but instead, are you willing to

(05:27):
receive the love that's offered without looking for the trapdoor,
the other shoe to fall, or any kind of conditions
or considerations or barbs or hooks. And the truth of
the matter is, if there are barbs and hooks that
are being set up by the person offering, first of all,

(05:48):
it's not love. Secondly, you're not obligated to respond to
react to those barbs because you could take the offering
and transmute it. And the difference between taking and receiving
is vital. When you take something, you're voracious, you say

(06:09):
you're insatiable. You cannot be satisfied. When you receive. You
take that in like a seed and you grow from
it and you share it, and it expands and it expounds,
and it's beautiful. Think about it this way. You could
eat at McDonald's and it's going to fill you, but

(06:34):
it's not going to nourish you. Or you can eat
something incredibly healthy and organic and with consideration and consciousness
and just with mindfulness, and that is going to really
feed not only your mind, not only your body, but

(06:56):
your soul. And the idea is, are you And I
often ask are you courageous enough to love? Tonight I'm
asking a different question, are you courageous enough to be loved?
Because that, my friends, is tougher for me than offering love.

(07:19):
I'll tell you I am a love bug. I will
offer love all over the place. But y'all want to
love me. But what if there's this? And what if
there's that? And what if you'll abandon me? And what
if you'll reject me? And well, all these what ifs,
and you know what, it's all a big pile of

(07:39):
bs because at the end of the day, just be
you boo and whatever else anybody wants to do with
that is up to them. However, you, me, all of
us get to be loved and that counts even if

(08:03):
you can't rely on me.

Speaker 10 (08:04):
Who Yeah, let me tell you something that last.

Speaker 11 (08:11):
It's hey, come along it, okay, how would you don't
full up this way?

Speaker 10 (08:23):
I look so powerful you ever did.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
Well?

Speaker 12 (08:28):
You're like that don't want to do tell them what's
in that hole?

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Come along it, this is coming to.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
I just came alive. You just ca me love.

Speaker 10 (08:48):
I just can't lie. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
Scare me.

Speaker 10 (08:53):
There you got that boods up.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Put the doll. Just scare a live you just scar
me loud you.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Oh lord, I'm not to urvo brain.

Speaker 10 (09:07):
I'm ana melt chip off.

Speaker 12 (09:08):
Right down the drain because if you don't love me,
make me my.

Speaker 10 (09:14):
Son to take me.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I will take me right up.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
To way and go whe just came and live on.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
You just scares me, live on you.

Speaker 8 (09:33):
I'm just scaring lie you scare loud you can you
not the good stuff the lad Just care line on
you loud you.

Speaker 11 (09:47):
Go that though.

Speaker 12 (09:49):
Really you're gonna say, want to wown but.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
Here's not whoo comment. Just care for line on you
just standing lone. I just staring line on you.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
Just tell me a lot on you.

Speaker 7 (10:22):
Yeah you've got the good stuff the doll, but just
car line you lot.

Speaker 10 (10:31):
Give me some sugar.

Speaker 13 (10:39):
You may.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
By your job. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, kay.

Speaker 10 (11:00):
I just came love.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Love, I just care.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
You've got the good stuff.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
But just carry long long, let me just.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Care, just just Carlo.

Speaker 13 (11:32):
And love.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
And love. Anyway, y'all are listening to Inner Journey with
Greg Friedman on k x F M one O four seven,
broadcast from Laguna Beach, California. For Laguna Beach, California and

(12:00):
for the entire world. All right, y'all, I told you
we were going to have a casual, easy day today.
That means nothing heavy, nothing hard, no big deal. We're
just going to enjoy ourselves. What a crazy concept that is,
especially with all y'all running around and worrying about who's

(12:21):
going to buy for Aunt Mabel and who's got to
get this for your cousin and little Joey. You know what,
fat people think that the Grinch was this nasty sucker.
I kind of The more and more I think about it,
the more I like the Grinch. Who needs all the presents,
who needs all the toys, who needs all of that stuff?

(12:43):
And at the end of the day, if you strip
it away, what we're really here for is love and
family and friends, and to express that, to share that
and to receive that. And along those lines we have
Jay said Mac joining us. Jay is the founder, one
of the founders and one of the driving forces between

(13:06):
behind ADA, and also a whole bunch of other considerations
that are on the forefront of healing that are based
in light, frequency and sound. Jay, I know it was
a big old hassle for you to get here today.
Thank you for joining me. Sure thing man, glad to
be here. I'm glad to have you all right. So,

(13:27):
first of all, tell us about the story behind ADA.
How did that come about? What is it? Why was
it so important to create for you?

Speaker 14 (13:38):
So a couple of things about that. ADA is AATA.
It's an abbreviation for the Appalachian Academy of Therapeutic Arts.
And my wife and I are a blended family. We
have six children, ages six to twenty one at the point,

(14:01):
and it was twenty twenty when everything went virtual with
schooling and education, and we found ourselves in a small
living space with five kids doing virtual schooling and it
was just it was crazy. So that sort of set

(14:23):
things in motion of seeing that there was some more
that could be done with education. And we've always been
huge fans of nature and human connection, and so the
set of circumstances that were going on in and around
that timeframe led us to start an off grid in
person school in the Hills of Appalachia in western North Carolina.

(14:49):
And so we had been doing that for close to
four years and then Hurricane Helene visited the area and
pretty much shook things up pretty good. So that is
currently on hold and we are here in California.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I love your understatement. It shook things up pretty good.
You know, Whole towns were wiped out, freeways became just
turbulent rivers, and everything's turned upside down. And even today
there are everybody's saying the drinking water's fine, it's okay,
it's potable. I have friends that lived there and went

(15:27):
you know, you guys say that, and I've heard you
guys say a lot of things. So they had the
water tested, guess what, not so much. It ain't there yet.
That doesn't mean it won't get there, but it ain't
there yet. And there's a lot of considerations that you
have to deal with because of this. I mean, people

(15:49):
were out, were missing, still aren't.

Speaker 14 (15:52):
Missing, right, absolutely, Yeah, the scope of what has gone
on there, it's really hard to fathom even being in
the epicenter.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I mean, we were about.

Speaker 14 (16:00):
As close to the middle of it as we could
be without losing everything, but you know, like a mile
away from where we live, it was. People lost everything,
and we lost our road and much of our forest,
but you know, we managed to make it through with
our lives and our property mostly intact, like our homes

(16:22):
and things.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 14 (16:25):
It was a pretty big initiation in a lot of
ways into like sort of like a taste of the
apocalypse from how we experienced it. We were without power
for close to a month and forced to rely on
one another and our land and resources that we had.

(16:46):
So yeah, it was a big eye opener, and you
know led us to branch out now and we're kind
of on an odyssey of sorts related to some health
explorer with our family and brought us here. And so
we left initially went to Arizona and then made our

(17:07):
way out here. Weren't really sure where things were going
to take us, but here we are, and we've been
exploring a number of things, this relationship being one, and
a number of other.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Health and wellness based endeavors. You know, you say all
of this so casually being having to be put in
a position to rely on one another. I was out
here about three miles south of the epicenter of the

(17:38):
huge earthquake in the eighties nineties, and I'm telling you,
it looked like it was a war zone. However, one
of the things that I find astounding and also really
saddening is how incredibly, incredibly nice people are to one another,

(17:59):
how much they work together as a team, support one another,
complete strangers. And then the part that's saddening is there's
this eb that goes with that, where it starts to
revert back to a pattern where now all of a sudden,
you're not my neighbor, You're my stranger. Now all of
a sudden, I got to look out from me, even

(18:20):
if it means trampling on you. Is it help me
understand how that correlates to Ashville? Please?

Speaker 14 (18:29):
Ashville is an interesting place because there's a there's a
really deep and established culture that goes back a long way,
like the Southern Mountain culture. One of the houses across
the street and another house over the ridge are like
over two hundred years old. So these families have been

(18:51):
in this area where right around where we live since
like the late seventeen hundreds, and so there are things
that have have been established. Like I talked to people,
and I've kind of recently been holding it like this,
that's the closest thing that we have in our immediate
space to like an indigenous culture. And I know that

(19:12):
may sound sacrilegious to some people to make to make
an association between a Southerner and Indigenous, but it's like
on a timeline of my lifetime, my children's lifetime. I mean,
this is something that's been there well beyond you know,
we're newcomers to this environment. So you know, I I
will say that I think that there was an underestimation

(19:34):
of what was possible with this the fabric of community
in this area.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Elaborate on that will you.

Speaker 14 (19:42):
I had we forged many connections with people through this
ordeal that you know, I knew a lot of the
neighbors cursorily, not not that well, but uh, you know,
you forced into this intensity and you get to know
these people on new level, get to know what they're
made up of, and what they're willing to do for

(20:04):
one another, and what they need, what they might be
able to offer, and just you get to see someone's
spirit in a different way.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
And so yeah, I mean the being in that environment
was really.

Speaker 14 (20:19):
Eye opening and fortunate for me and my family being
around a lot of these people that have been living
in this area for so long.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
So you say, see them in a different way. My
take on it is see them probably for the first time,
Well said, yeah, yeah, I mean I had definitely.

Speaker 14 (20:44):
We're all everyone's busy, everyone's got lives, and so it
forced everybody to stop and look around and yes, see
each other for the first time in a lot of ways.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I had somebody on the from the local radio station there,
you know the name of it, what remind me please
the River? Oh yeah, ninety eight one the River and
just the sweetest woman. She's the program director there, and
I had her on and she told story after story
after story, and whether it was of triumph or tragedy,

(21:17):
that woman cried on my program for two hours straight
because it was all visceral, it was all real, no pretense,
nothing that was put on. Everything was from the heart
and it went through the entire being. And to me,
that's beauty, even in tragedy.

Speaker 14 (21:39):
Yeah, I mean that that was unexpected, and I think that,
you know, growing up. I grew up in California, and
you know, growing up in You're a local boy, right, oh, Irvine,
you know, fairly fairly local. I mean on a scale
between here in North Carolina. Yes, didn't you live here

(22:00):
in town for a while and look at the beach?
My folks moved here and I was just out of
high school. Oh really, So I didn't really spend a
lot of my childhood here, but I did spend some
time here and get it. And so we're gonna shift
gears for a little bit and then we'll come back.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah. You know, when I have guests on sometimes, especially
if I know they're musicians or they really have an
affinity towards sound and frequency, I'll ask them what they
want to hear. Well, the good news is I put
on Ben Harper, but not the requested song. This is
Ben Harper doing Strawberry Fields. And we'll be back with

(22:39):
more Inner Journey right after this. Let me take you down.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
Nothing is.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
And there's nothing to get on about.

Speaker 15 (23:09):
Straubbing kids forever, livings easy, ask lolo, misunderstanding all you see.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
It's getting hard to be someone, but it all works out.

Speaker 15 (23:31):
It doesn't matter much to me.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Let me take you.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Down because I'm.

Speaker 16 (23:42):
Strawberry.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
There's nothing it's real.

Speaker 13 (23:51):
There's a sing to get on about destrabb.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Ever, no one I think is in my I mean
it must be high a long.

Speaker 13 (24:12):
That is can not to any when it's all right,
that is, I think it's not true bad.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
Let me take kill it down because I'm going to
do strabery. Nothing is.

Speaker 13 (24:37):
Not to get about the stras forever always know.

Speaker 17 (24:50):
Sometimes think it's work.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
But you know, I nod. It's a dream. It's a
dream like I know. I mean, I yet, but it's
all wrong, and that is I think I disagree. Let
me take you down because I'm going to.

Speaker 17 (25:14):
War with the vernything.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Oh nothing, nothing is free.

Speaker 10 (25:23):
There is nothing to get.

Speaker 13 (25:25):
On about Distrada Strada strat.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Greg Friedman dot Com and Inner Journey with Greg Friedman
on all social media. And if you are listening to
enough to us right now, you are listening to k
x F M one four seven broadcast from Laguna Beach,
for Laguna Beach and for the entire world. Tonight we

(27:10):
are hanging out with Jay Sedbeck, and Jay and his
lovely wife jad have really been incredibly innovative with the
way they've been approaching education, and it had a really
good head of steem going. It's funny you went from
disaster to disaster. Weird bookends, man, go ahead, talk about

(27:36):
that's an interesting perspective.

Speaker 14 (27:38):
I hadn't really considered that, but you're right, you know,
it was born out of this twenty twenty situation and
you know the pandemic, yes, everybody, So yeah, we were
really founded on a lot of these principles, holding a
different position than was being foisted upon most of the institution.

(28:00):
And it was really it was kind of shocking for
us to see that a lot of the local educational
systems that we had children involved in, just one by
one dissolved as viable options for our family. It was
the health screening, the virtual stuff, and then, you know,

(28:21):
not to mention it seemed to really kick into high
gear a lot of the propaganda that we did not
enjoy or choose to have, like our kids programmed with,
so a lot of the gender stuff that's being taught
to kids at really young age.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
You know, I think.

Speaker 14 (28:40):
That that's a really charged topic. But you know, essentially
I had come to a place and my wife and
I and some of our other parents and friends that,
you know, to uncouple biology from gender is a big
ris responsibility, and I don't know if we're ready to

(29:03):
do that as a culture, let alone starting to introduce
this idea to first graders, second graders and things like that.
It's a you know, it's a big that's a big thing.
So like that was one thing, you know, declaring that
we were in essential service and that we were going
to stay open despite any lockdowns or you know, quarantine

(29:25):
type things.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Did you get any backlash from that?

Speaker 14 (29:29):
We had initially a couple of families that were split
households and one parent was really on board and one
parent wasn't. So we had a woman actually take some
of our internal documents to the local paper.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Oh really and attempt to get us shut down. How lovely.

Speaker 14 (29:50):
Yeah, things were a little uncertain in those first days.
That was the fall of twenty twenty one. So interesting
that you say it in that exact phrasing. Okay, we
didn't know what was going to happen, but it did
end up you know, the whole any press is good
press kind of idea and did end up bringing some
folks And actually what happened was a lot of families

(30:12):
ended up traveling or moving relocating out of state to
North Carolina to come to Ada.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
That's really cool.

Speaker 14 (30:19):
We had a handful of families from California, a handful
of families from Illinois, up and down the West Coast, Oregon, Washington,
a few other places, New York, some of the little
bit more strict states. People were leaving and come into
North Carolina. And unfortunately, in North Carolina, there's historically has
been a really large contingent of the population that was

(30:44):
in the like kind of fundamentalist Christian right wing movement
that has paved the way for homeschool laws to be
as they are. So we have a lot of things
going for us, and the way has been paved for
us to be able to do things homes school that
we might not be able to do in other states.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
And the thing that's fascinating to me is skipping ahead
to the flooding because of Helene. You look at that
and your daughter came out with her grandparents and they
tried to get her into the schools here, and instead
of making allowances for all of the considerations because of

(31:23):
the flood and the paperwork being you know, the system
being down, essentially, they just flat out said they were
incredibly rigid, they were incredibly strict, and they didn't facilitate,
They didn't have any compassion or understanding or what just

(31:44):
humanity for the situation. Instead it was either you have
this or you can't do this. Well, you have to
be in school. Well how could I be in school
if you're not letting me be in school? It's just frustrating.

Speaker 14 (31:58):
Yeah, it's an and it's you know, state to state,
it's a little bit different. So like we did have
a lot of people come out of state and moved
to North Carolina, and we really held that position in
a way that was I think allowed for Atta to
become what it had over those few years that it
was doing what it was doing right.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
And So talk to me a little bit about what
made your school difference. What made your school a fertile
environment for kids to really thrive well for starters. We
really follow the principle of the natural world.

Speaker 14 (32:38):
That's kind of our main north star is that everything
is happening in nature. We have buildings and shelters and classrooms,
but everything's off grid and we are outside almost all
the time.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I love those classrooms. I was out there, I got
to see them. Are they still standing?

Speaker 14 (32:57):
Every single one of them actually is still stand phenomenal
surprisingly enough.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, that's really terrific.

Speaker 14 (33:04):
So I think that was one of the main guiding
principles that allowed the allowed audit to be what it is.
And then you know this other piece that we had
kind of coined this phrase and created this idea of
the therapeutic arts. And you know, that's been something that's
been in formation for some time, but I likened it

(33:26):
to the idea of like, like the martial arts, right,
so you learn about martial arts and not so that
you can mess somebody up, but so that you ultimately
wouldn't have to get into that conflict. And in therapeutic arts, similarly,
learning about one's breath, one's biology, one's energetic field, one's

(33:47):
you know, the rhythms and the and the systems within
one's own body, how they're reflected in nature and vice versa,
and learning about that, learning about how to understand yourself
more deeply so that you can then go forward and
not have to seek external support to fix what has
gone wrong in oneself. So that's the idea that we

(34:08):
wanted to really embed into the program and cultivate in
the kids.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
I love that. I was just having this conversation literally yesterday,
and they teach so much of history that's a complete
lie and indoctrination. But what they don't teach in schools,
what we don't teach in schools is emotional IQ. We

(34:35):
don't teach people how to navigate this world in some
of the basic ways, in some of the terrestrial ways
that could go anywhere from understanding things like breath to
understanding how to get a bank card, how to get
a how to balance a checkbook, how to operate certain
things in this world, and navigate in very basic ways

(34:57):
that everybody needs and very you were taught. And it's
crazy to me. So I love what you're doing out there.
I know they're going through a lot of changes with
all of the hurricanes rebuilding. However, throw out the website
so people could check you out, please. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (35:17):
So there was Appalachian Academy dot org and that's the
website for AUTA. And the third piece that I will
just share is that a lot of what we had
filtered our curriculum and our offerings through is that it

(35:39):
had to adhere to these three different things. So the
natural world, the systems of nature and being in alignment
with that, and then the therapeutic arts piece. And then
the third piece was what is really near and dear
to my Heart, which has to do with music, vibration,
sound and harmonics, and so we called that harmonic integration.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I love it. And when we come back from this,
we're going to dive further into that. And this song
is one that you did request, Miles Davis. You want
to set us up? Which one is? This? Is this
from in a Silent way?

Speaker 13 (36:13):
Yep?

Speaker 14 (36:14):
Oh yeah, beautiful instrumental kind of like a pivotal moment
in Miles Davis's career where he was starting to play
with electric instruments and coming out of the.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Traditional jazz stuff. So in a journey with Greg.

Speaker 18 (36:31):
Friedman in.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
Our eight.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Eight eight.

Speaker 19 (38:56):
A, my name is Mariam Williamson, and you're listening to

(40:38):
Inner Journey with Greg Friedman.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
All right, y'all, here we go. You heard the lady.
You're listening to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman on k
x F M, and tonight I'm here with Jay, said
Mac and we're talking about everything, man. So we're just
talking about your school, and your school.

Speaker 14 (41:00):
Is the Appalachian Academy of Therapeutic Arts or ATA.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
And there are three different primary precepts how I mean,
we would call them the three pillars. The three pillars
great better than what founding principles or precepts works as well,
but it's yeah, it's being in alignment with the natural
world and this idea of therapeutic arts, which is essentially

(41:26):
just self knowledge and ultimately moving in the direction of
self mastery. And then harmonic integration, which is utilizing a
lot of the principle of resonance. You know, there's this
idea of like sympathetic resonance where things will attune to

(41:50):
the vibration of other things around them and vice versa.
So there's this interplay, you know, like harmony and dissonance
work together to create a and ebb and flow of
constant you know, tension and resolution dynamics. Yeah. Absolutely. My
brother is a recording engineer and he hates that. Sometimes

(42:13):
when I'm writing music, I will put in the most
dissonant chord and it just jars him like nobody's business,
and he hates it, and I love it because it
just provides that wait, what for a moment, and it
makes people be present with the music. To me, Yeah,

(42:34):
and that to me is one of the big keys.
Can you stay present with the frequency, with the harmony,
with whatever is going on, whether it's and it's all music.
Our lives are all light, frequency and sound. Well.

Speaker 14 (42:47):
One of the teachers that I spent some time with
is a guy named Fabien Maman and he has an
institute called Tomado, which means the Way of the Soul,
and he is He was a musician turned acupuncturists who
then was one of the founding fathers of vibrational medicine.

(43:08):
And it started because he was doing an acupuncture treatment
on a child who was afraid of needles and he
had a tuning fork in his pocket. This was back
in the sixties and so it's become pretty widespread and
common in the last forty years or so. But you know,
Fabien really paved the way for that to happen. And
so one of the things that he discovered was that

(43:29):
unhealthy cells, cells that are cancerous or different crystallizations in
the body, will not be able to handle the dissonances
in the same way that healthy cells will. So he
would take two tuning forks that were tuned a half
step apart and hit them together to vibrate and create
one of the most dissonant intervals that we have and

(43:51):
hold that in against the body. And so what that
would do is it would shake things up and break
up some of these blockages. And you know, it's it's
a way to test the integrity of the prima materia
that were made up of disonance cost consonants.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I was about must be over a decade ago. I
was working with a kid who had very severe CP
cerebral pausing, and I brought out the tuning forks and
I was using them and to see the different ways
that he was both drawn outward and inward with the
forks was phenomenal. And I brought his mother in and

(44:37):
I said, okay, so here's a way that you could
communicate with him. And you got to understand that what
you're doing is it's nonverbal and yet it's clear communication.
And I watched her with it, and she got it,
and it just was we were close. However, he was

(44:58):
just he loved it. He took to that like nothing
I've ever seen before. Now there's you know, Einstein even
said eons ago the future of medicine is in light,
frequency and sound. There are so many different devices that
you have not only been exposed to, but employ not

(45:20):
without a but on your own and with possible other
different directions that you're exploring. Will you talk to me
a little bit about that, please? Absolutely? Yeah. So, I
mean this story kind of starts back in.

Speaker 14 (45:35):
With the devices that you're speaking of, the bio resonance
and the tuning and the frequency based modalities that we're
using in the center that we have in Asheville. My
mom was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer and started
to go down the allopathic road and do the chemo

(45:56):
and the surgery, and my dad had the wherewithal to
steer her in a different direction, and she started to
seek out some alternative care, came out to California, worked
with a number of people out here, and has been
clear of cancer since. So she went through a pretty
intense detox period. But upon them returning to North Carolina,

(46:17):
my dad primarily started to acquire some of these different devices.
So the idea of bioresonance can kind of be summed
up like you pick up a watermelon, You look at
this one, you look at that one, you thump on it,
it makes a certain sound and that's the one, you know.
So it's introducing frequency and light into the being, into

(46:40):
the individual. And then through the mechanical introduction of those
things through the space that's created through the facilitator and
the participant, something opens up and you're able to work
in realms that are beyond what we're exposed to on
you know, mundane daily to day to day interactions.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
And what are the things that you and I have
spoken about? Go ahead, I'm sorry, I'm like go.

Speaker 14 (47:07):
So we have something called a harmonic egg, which is
essentially like a giant egg that you would go inside
and you sit and sit in a chair and you
recline back, and we introduce a certain set of frequencies
and a certain set of light into that and I always,
we always will spend a little bit of time before

(47:28):
and after the session in order to establish what our
aim is here. And so that actually opens up a
lot of the possibility.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
And that's exactly where it was going to go. And
one of the things you would I have spoken about
is how right now, with where we are in human evolution,
not any journey begins long before the actual event and
integrates far afterwards, and it is vital to have a

(47:59):
good guide along the way. So what do you want
for yourself as a result of having gone through this,
because all of a sudden, now it's intentional. Then afterwards,
it's how do I take all of these things that
are so foreign to me? They're feelings and I don't
know how to necessarily integrate them or what to do

(48:22):
with them. And if you have a good guide, it's
you have that integration afterwards. So the event is not
only the device, but it winds up being the harmony
that the guide and the participant create with one another
in order to really integrate and facilitate help wellness.

Speaker 14 (48:45):
Yeah, that's that's very well said, And it is through
that interaction between It's like the devices are a template
upon which we can then play with this energy. And
that largely has to do with, like you said, the
intention and then through the guide being there witnessing the

(49:07):
intention and then reflecting that back, and then that ultimately
becomes the feedback loop.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
And what almost everybody I know, you, me, your dad,
gazillion other practitioners that we all know, have said is
really ultimately what we need to understand is we are
the med bed. We are ultimately the healing frequency. The
residents and these other devices to me are sort of

(49:34):
like handrails. They're like doing medicine journeys. You hold on
until you feel secure enough to make that path on
your own. And we're going to take a short short break.
And ironically it's Edda James and I'd rather go blind.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Something told me.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
It was.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
When I saw you and her talking.

Speaker 20 (50:31):
Something deep down in my soul, surprag girl, when I
saw you, when that girl walking down.

Speaker 6 (50:49):
I would rather.

Speaker 21 (50:50):
I would rather go blind, boy, then to see you
walk away from me, child.

Speaker 12 (51:06):
So you see, I love you so much that I
don't want to watch your needs me, babe. Most of all,
I just don't. I just don't want to betray all wood.
I was jealous, I was jalous.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
I was just setting them back again of your kiss
and your warm.

Speaker 22 (51:35):
In bridge kid, when the reflection in the glass that
I hear to my lips.

Speaker 11 (51:46):
And my babe.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Revealed the tails that was on my face. Here, babe,
let me see you walk away.

Speaker 10 (52:10):
So you walk away from me.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Welcome back. You are listening to in her Journey with
Greg Friedman on k x f M, and we are
here with Jay, and over the break, Jay explained something
to me and clear it up for us, if you would. Jay. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (52:41):
So when I when I met Greg back in the nineties,
I was My last name was said Mac and maybe
I don't know. Seven or eight years ago, my wife
and I changed and created a new last name for ourselves,
which is Asuvari. So anybody that knows me from my

(53:01):
associations with Ada or any of the work that I'm
doing in Asheville will know me as Jay Azuvari and
my wife jd Azivari.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Whoops, and thank you for correcting me. Now, I'm always curious,
is there something behind that choice that drove you to
that specific name?

Speaker 14 (53:19):
Is there a meaning with that name that resonates with you?
It has to do somewhat with the sound and the
vibration of the name.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
How are weird? And we had been working with some
lineage type things and wanted to create a new.

Speaker 14 (53:41):
Association with a certain vibration and sound that spoke to
both of us. And so we sort of like both
arrived at this thing together and someone in like a
meditative and or trance state, flow of consciousness type state.
So it showed up and it presented itself and away
and it just felt like it made sense.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I dig it and fortunately and unfortunately, we have blown
through the first hour. We will see you guys on
the other side. You are listening to Inner Journey with
Greg Friedman and we'll be back right after this.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (54:21):
Please believe me never do you no harm? Believe me?
Rather tell you? Do you no how?

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (54:54):
If you leave me, make.

Speaker 18 (55:03):
Hello pity.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
I beg you, John, believe me, Hello, John Anchor when

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your don you're Oh John, you leave me? Ma, Bellie,

(56:14):
When I tell you.

Speaker 13 (56:18):
I'm do you know how.

Speaker 17 (56:26):
You leave me?

Speaker 11 (56:27):
Do name.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
Better know I'm better now? Oh God, please bell leave.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
You?

Speaker 6 (57:15):
Don't believe it? Believe the best.

Speaker 13 (57:22):
Tell you.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
My babe is gonna get risk. And it's great to
be with j Greig and with everybody who's listening to us,
and to have the opportunity to.

Speaker 23 (57:46):
Share my ideas.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
It's a great pleasure once again to be in your show.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Oh my love to all of you.

Speaker 10 (58:10):
Anger.

Speaker 23 (58:11):
He smells till reading shiny metallic people, arm earth, green, jealousy, envy.
He waits behind him. The fiery green diamond snails at
the grassy ground. Ooo, the life giving what is taken
for granted. Quietly understand Once Hay took quite armies the

(58:32):
opposite ready, and I.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Wonder why the fires.

Speaker 16 (58:37):
But they're all all less love. They're all a less love,
They're all all less.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
Just ask the accident.

Speaker 24 (59:03):
My rid is so completely foscious with trophies of water,
evans of euphoria. Orange is young, full of death, very
unsteady for the first full round.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
My gallow in this case is not so melo.

Speaker 23 (59:19):
In fact, I'm trying to say, it's frightened like me,
and all these emotions of man keep holding me from I'm.

Speaker 10 (59:26):
Giving my eye to a rainbow.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
I like you, but I am bald love.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
I am bald.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Let's love, ambald, Let's love. Just exxs sir.

Speaker 17 (59:53):
Like he knows everything, Stas, let's say.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
My name is Greg Friedman. I am a modern version
of those that have existed in every culture. I am
a guide. For years, I have taken people all over
the world to work with indigenous elders in exotic locations,
only to show you that you are the magic, and
we just help you realize it. It could be terrifying

(01:01:48):
to look at our fears, and sometimes even more so
to look at our strangers. I take you out into
the wild, into the unknown, foreign inner journey. All right, y'all,
here we go, Here we go. You are listening to

(01:02:09):
in a Journey with Greg Friedman, and we are here
with Jay Avasari. Today's pronounced ah as Avari. We're It's okay.
We're still getting there. Usually, you know, when it's something new,
I cheat, y'all. I have a little note in front
of me, but this time I was winging it, and.

Speaker 6 (01:02:26):
We'll get there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
It's okay, it's not quite uh. Jay is from all
over the place, but most recently Asheville, North Carolina, and
he has not only survived but thrived through a lot
of crazy stuff that's happened since y'all have been out there,
and you've come out with understanding that there is a residence.

(01:02:51):
There's a frequency, there's a sound, there's a feel that
contributes to wellness perhaps more than anything else. And you
were talking a little bit about your mom. Now I
don't want to go into it too much because I
didn't ask your mom, and I do know this. We've
had Justin Ballard on the program, and Justin is just

(01:03:15):
this side of the best kind of crazy. And he
is a research scientist that has done so much. I'm
going to say this directly. He has done so much
to contribute to the detriment of this world and also
do the benefit. He did so much research about what

(01:03:36):
hooks people in addicts people to things like television, and
he was working for those guys until one day he
had come to a great realization that, you know what,
there's other things I could be doing. And the way
this man dives in and researches everything, and the amount

(01:03:57):
of everything that he as of represents probably one hundred
to two hundred different devices that he went, oh, this
is bullocks, this is just horrid. And that I love
about him. And tell us a little bit about your
experience with Justin.

Speaker 14 (01:04:16):
So I have never actually met Justin really, No, We've
missed each other narrowly. I've been to his office and
I've met some of his colleagues, and he's worked extensively
with my parents, and I would say he is in
well directly through my family, like affected a lot of

(01:04:38):
the perception of what is possible in health and wellness.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Talk a little bit more about that, please well.

Speaker 14 (01:04:47):
It seems like there's a large part of why things
are the way they are with all of us. It
has to do with the choices that were not only
that we've made, but we're making from moment to moment.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
And that in one of the first things and I
love this that Justin does this. One of the first
things he's going to do is ask what you're passionate about.
What do you love, what drives you, what gets you
excited to be alive, what gets you excited to be awake?
And if you can cultivate that, if you have a
Riizonda eetra, if you have a reason to be, then

(01:05:23):
your body responds to that. And when you stop feeling that,
your body also responds to that. And that's what we're
talking about here too. And in so many different ways
and so many different times in your life, you've reincarnated
in this life and you have reinvented yourself and you've

(01:05:43):
done so gorgeously and instead of what a lot of
people do is they'll reincarnate and then they'll disavow where
they came from, or they'll cut it off, or they'll
deny it. You've taken it and you've integrated it. You
have music has always been an integral part of your life,

(01:06:04):
and then you take that and you bring it into
the school and you bring it into wellness devices. Will
you take us a little bit through that journey? Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:06:14):
Sure, I mean I think that when I was when
I was younger, the altered states associated with certain substances,
psychedelics and met and then later plant medicine that combined
with music, I would say, is largely responsible for my
outlook on the world, my perception of reality. Those have

(01:06:35):
been the things that have shaped me and made me
who I am. And so those have and I actually
was able to speak to a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Of the parent body when we were forming AUTA.

Speaker 14 (01:06:47):
And explain that to them and how that intersects then
with the natural world, how that intersects with our biology,
our physiology, our energetics, our anatomy even you know. So
I would say that the thing that kind of tied
that together for me was starting to work with somatics,

(01:07:08):
sematic experiencing the work of Peter Levine and starting to
get inside and track the inner workings of what goes
on inside one's own body, between the the ebb and flow,
between the sympathetic and the paras parasympathetic nervous system. You
mentioned earlier about like traumas, Right, So we have these

(01:07:29):
experiences in our life that you know are either novel
or fearful or jarring in some way, and so we
are forced to a we're hardwired to, but we're also
forced to integrate or not integrate these things in some capacity.
And so those things have a resounding effect in our

(01:07:51):
body and our psyche and our emotions, in our mind
and all.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Of those things.

Speaker 14 (01:07:55):
And so learning a little bit about how that works
and peaking inside the observational quality or ability that we
have to track those things in our body, and that
was a lot of the work of the somatic work.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
It's like about tracking the sensations.

Speaker 14 (01:08:13):
And the inner landscape of what's going on inside one's
own being. And when I started to spend time studying
that and train in that and then ultimately work with
people in that way, I was really struck with the
depth and how much vastness and unknown and just alluring

(01:08:37):
and fascinating terrain there was on the inside without any
introduction of any plant, medicine or substance, that was just
available to each and every one of us. And so
seeing how that is all connected to the principle of harmonics,
the principles of resonance, and how that is also reflected

(01:09:00):
in the natural world and it just kind of all
fit together in this way that was really inspiring.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
And then what do you do with that? Yeah, exactly, So,
I mean working with the educational model.

Speaker 14 (01:09:19):
That was a really great exploration as far as how
we can set up a space for kids to be
held with some of this awareness and it is it
is a lot about like you mentioned earlier with justin
about finding your passion, so finding ways to connect where

(01:09:40):
things are exciting and then playful and fun. And so
for me, music has always been a real easy avenue
to do that. So I did a lot of facilitating
teaching music with the kids and playing with rhythm, playing
with melody, playing with harmony, and then how that can

(01:10:06):
illuminate certain things for self understanding.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
You know, it's interesting that you use that word because
that to me is a very it's a trigger word
because so many people are trying to figure it out,
they're trying to understand it, they're trying to intellectualize it.
And I always say, understanding is a glass ceiling on

(01:10:35):
the pathway to really be knowing oneself. And because so
many people that are in the growth industry, the spiritual industry,
even on the forefront of light, frequency and sound as
wellness devices, are very, very smart and they know if

(01:10:57):
you're using the medicine wheel. There are different ways to
enter into spirit. However, if you get stuck in the north,
which is the way I was taught intelligence and intellect,
it's supposed to be a gateway, not a destination, and
so many people go, but I don't understand, But I
don't understand. And there's a certain place where you need

(01:11:18):
to surrender and to understand. Funny enough that the gateway,
the portal was understanding intelligence and then at a certain
place you've passed that threshold, you have to let go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
You have to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Surrender to the present, which goes way beyond anything that
we can comprehend. And yet it's undeniable thoughts. Yeah, it's
the idea of understanding or you know, the intellect it is.
It is like a piece, you know, like you said,

(01:11:54):
it's a gateway. And I think that the way that
the opportunity that I have found that seems to help
integrate things a little bit more fully into oneself, it
has to do with incorporating some of these elements that
we used with ata, where it is incorporating the natural world,

(01:12:17):
you know, taking off your shoes and standing in a
creek with the cold water and the hard rocks under
your feet, and then doing your practice exploring these edges
of our normal comfort, you know, being hot, being cold,

(01:12:40):
being uncomfortable, and then still having to be present to
the environment and others around you. And so like learning
about riding a little bit of these these waves that
are present in the analog world, you know, the natural
world world. And then by extension, you know, those principles

(01:13:03):
are also like continued to be represented in nature, but
also in the principle of harmonics. So if you take
the model of music that we use in the West,
you know, there's a certain there's the octave, and there
are certain intervals within that octave, and those those intervals
have relationships that are generally considered consonant or dissonant, right,

(01:13:28):
and they have certain associations with them. So we will
I will play with those types of intervals with the
kids and work with these different relationships of sound, whether
it's like you know, chord progressions or melodies or rhythms,
and see what can be explored through playing with some

(01:13:48):
of those things. So it's almost like creating some basic
templates of here's some here's a framework of a harmonic
progression for instance, to play with getting the kids playing
with these things and watching what happens, because they will
actually take these things and then create and make something
else out of it, which is allows them to reflect

(01:14:12):
on something that they have inside themselves. And so that's
always been my approach with music and education is to
kind of like strip away.

Speaker 17 (01:14:26):
Some of the.

Speaker 14 (01:14:29):
Prescribed aspect of it and give somebody something that they
can play and access some of the trance state with.
So correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
But as you're speaking, I'm like, oh, because there's something
really cool I heard. See if it's in alignment, if
you would, I hear you teaching these kids all these
different ways that are building blocks, that are structure. It's
sort of like ASO learned from Brock and he was

(01:15:03):
an amazing technical artist before he went completely in his
own direction. And what it is that I hear you
describing is you're teaching these kids relationship without fear, and
therefore it all becomes about relationship and you get to

(01:15:25):
develop that relationship dissonant or in a harmony or in
any kind of form and format that's appropriate to you.
But more than anything, you're teaching them have the relationship.
You're encouraging relationships without any kind of Okay, so here
are the building box. Now I'm not encouraging you to

(01:15:46):
live there. Thus you want to but go create What
relationship do you have that's going to be different from
the John's going to have or Mary's going to have,
or Sam's going to have, and or I'm going to
have or you're going to have. And in doing that,
you're encouraging kids to live because it's all about relationship

(01:16:10):
with ourself, with source, with nature, with everything. So did
I hear you correctly? I think so.

Speaker 14 (01:16:18):
I think that that seems to really strike a chord,
so to speak with Yeah, another thing that as you
were talking, I was reminded that through the course of
these last few years, I ended up speaking and doing
a lot of exploration with my students in and around language,

(01:16:41):
and so we would we would play with etymology, we
would play with love roots, roots and words and origins
and things like that. And and so I was actually
using a book by a guy named Dylan Secotio that's
called Spirit World, and he's got a whole series of books,
but it goes into a lot of the like parsing,

(01:17:02):
parsing apart words or you know, splitting apart words and
looking at the origins of where things were, where things
come from, what some of the hidden, sometimes oftentimes nefarious
meanings are embedded in our language, how we say certain things,
Like so people say understanding and say that you should
never say understanding because it means you're standing under People
will say innerstanding or overstanding and things like that, and

(01:17:23):
so you know, it's there's a lot of merit and
beauty to that, and I feel like that can also
be people can be real stickler for like, oh, you
can't say certain words because it means this or you're.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Locking into that.

Speaker 14 (01:17:34):
But I had a moment with the kids that was
of note and memorable where I wrote the word laughter
on the board, okay. And we had been spending the
last few months talking about different words and their meanings
and how different things are, you know, either homonyms, synonyms,
different things that are meaning different things. And I took

(01:17:57):
the word laughter, I put it on the board and
then I wrote the letter in front of it, ooh interesting.
And it was like a lightning bolt hit the class.
They were blown away. And so there are these layers
to things and these relational qualities that you were saying.

(01:18:19):
It's like, does that make sense to you as far
as what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
And I do think that.

Speaker 14 (01:18:24):
Starting to strip away some of the preconceived ideas that
we have associated with, whether it's a chord, progression, a scale,
a rhythm, a word, an idea, or a concept of
some sort, starting to try and strip away and get
to the almost like primordial or archetypal essence of what

(01:18:45):
is there. There is a freedom and a beauty in that,
and it can be really profound. Oh yeah, it's funny
that you bring up etymology because one of the things
that I used to love to do when I first
started doing the adio program, my monologues. I would find
a word and I would just dive deep into it,

(01:19:08):
and I'd find the French and the German, and the
Italian or the Latin often, or even before that, sometimes Sanskrit,
and I would play.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
With the source of the word. And then all of
a sudden, it was almost as I could that I
could see it come alive, and I could see colors
with it, and I could see the energy in a
whole different way. There's so much that we do and
that we say, that we take for granted, and yet
it has so much astounding and profound energy behind it.

(01:19:42):
And the more that we get to recognize, become aware
or awake to it, the more we're really running energy.

Speaker 14 (01:19:52):
Yeah, And it's the harmonic principle and the creative principle
comes into play when we talk about and look at words,
because we are speaking, we're we're speaking into existence these
certain aggrigors or ideas, and you know, the idea of like, well,
how do we how do we write a word? It's
how it's spelled, right, So we have we are casting

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or creating our reality by the words embedded with the
vibration and the intention and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
The associations and the connection that we have.

Speaker 14 (01:20:26):
So when I don't know if you've ever had an
experience like this, but I've I've had many experiences where
I've been talking on a phone with somebody and the
topic will start to get into certain areas and there's
a certain shift in the amount of charge or the
frequency or the topic matter, and the signal will falter.

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Oh It's almost like the digital signal of what's carrying
isn't able to support the essence of what's being communicated.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Oh yeah, and then it goes even beyond that. It's
I have had so many experiences where if I'm really
deeply upset about something, I will fry electronics. It's astounding.
I mean, radios will break, television's phones, everything. I mean,

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it's like, all of a sudden, you go, oh, man,
I know I did that, and I just recognize it.
And then, on another note of something you said earlier,
the word abracadabra is a great word. It's I'm going
to totally butcher this now, but it's essentially, as I speak,
I create. And when you think about abercadabra in terms

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of magic, because ultimately it's all magic. We're going to
take a short break and we're going to do some
Christmas magic with this and some Honica magic, and we'll
be back with more Inner Journey and Jay right after this.

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All right? We have James Brown and Sharon Jones.

Speaker 19 (01:29:24):
Of spiritual personal Growth, helping you realize and make real
the life of your choosing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
What I started to say was we had James Brown
and Sharon Jones representing both Hanukkah and Christmas. There y'all go.
So I don't care which side of which border you're on.
Just love one another. Will you please stop curting one another?
It's not a lot to ask for. And one of
my primary considerations on this planet is do what needs

(01:29:53):
to be done to care for the children, so stop
killing them. How's that for a concept? It doesn't seems
outrageous to me for some reason. It's very very simple.
And on a lighter note, you are listening to Inner
Journey with Greg Friedman and we are hanging out with
Jay Jay. You have done so much, from music to

(01:30:18):
teaching to so many other things in between, and now
it seems like you're coming full circle for a moment,
and it really becomes a full integration of light, music, frequency, sound,
all playing and supporting one another in order to support
y'all and to support people that you work with. He's

(01:30:44):
nodding his head yes, by the way, in case you
didn't know.

Speaker 14 (01:30:48):
Yeah, So we've been given an opportunity on the land
that we're on in Nashville, North Carolina to kind of
start for you know, the the weather that came through
really kind of wiped everything clean and in a way
that is kind of hard to describe. But what what

(01:31:12):
has come along with that has been an opportunity to
then look at what's next and so kind of returning
to a place a fundamental, so to speak. And so
what what seems to be this unifying concept It has

(01:31:36):
these elements of like like Greg said, like you said,
the light, the sound, and how those things interplay within
each of our own beings.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
And you're saying that, and it makes me think of
the Buddhist monks and they're creating the sun mandalas, and
what do they do once it's all done it? The
whole thing just gets swept away literally, and that thing
that is so stunningly beautiful and has taken so much
meticulous time and focus to create is let go of

(01:32:16):
and now you have a tableau rosa and you have
a clean slate? What and then the question becomes what
do I create here? Now do you have an answer? Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:32:31):
I think that the again the guiding principle there is
the elements that are present when you are confronted with
a wiping clean of the slate.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
What is what is left?

Speaker 19 (01:32:46):
You know?

Speaker 14 (01:32:46):
And so we have we have these elements of you know, air, water, fire, earth,
and then spirit and so how do we interact with
these things? And what are the lessons that we have
that we can keep coming back to? So, you know,

(01:33:07):
one thing that has shown up a lot for us
recently has to do with the light and the quality
of light in our lives. So a tuning to the
natural cycle, the natural rhythm, the circadians of how we
would interface with and it's it's interesting being here on

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the West coast because our experience of horizon and sky
is so incredibly different out here. To be able to
stand on the edge of the coast and see that
much horizon is a very novel experience to what we
would encounter day to day in the mountains in western
North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
It's so fascinating because I've never even really considered it
from that point of view. It's true, I go out
almost every evening and I could look at this vast,
vast horizon and then it's it makes me feel into
the vastness of who I am and what the universe is.
Whereas you're in, for example, where you guys live, you

(01:34:12):
look out and it's stunning, but what you're seeing as
a forest.

Speaker 14 (01:34:15):
Right well, and one of the most striking experience, or
one of the most striking aspects of the experience of
going out onto the land in the wake of the storm.
Because we had we had the flooding and the and
washing out of the roads and things like that, but
in addition to that, we had tornado level weather that

(01:34:37):
wiped out large areas of the forest. So in the
process of going out and trying to get to some
of these areas to just explore and assess where the
damage was, I oftentimes found myself orienting based on something
that I would find, realizing where I was and then
looking around and having to re kind of re the

(01:35:00):
orient because of the skyline being so different because all
of the trees were gone.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (01:35:05):
So it created a whole other sense of light. So
I mean that being said, where we are is heavily forested,
and now there are huge sections of that forests that
are completely opened up. So it's it's allowing a different
level of light, a different level of sky, a different
experience of these cycles.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
To come in.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
And so.

Speaker 14 (01:35:28):
Yeah, we have an opportunity to then reinvent, or reassess,
or re establish some other type of relationship with these things.
And so light, you know, that's a big one.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
And so what does that look like? As far as
what you you and JD have created so much in
such a short span of time. Do you have any idea?
Are there any discussions about what the next evolution may
look like in very tangible form? Yes, And I.

Speaker 14 (01:36:04):
We've been working with these frequency based devices and a
lot of these things are dependent on electricity, dependent on technology,
software things like that and so, and dependent on like
the hard structure that is that makes up these devices.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
So I think that is a piece of it.

Speaker 14 (01:36:23):
I think those are great tools, as we've spoken about,
and you know, there's also these elements of the interpersonal
connection that goes on between the facilitator and the participant.
But I think that starting to use some of these
concepts and these ideas of like, Okay, we have light
and sound, and then we have this relationship with one another.

(01:36:44):
How can we take some of these concepts and some
of these strategies and bring them out into the natural world, so,
you know, using things like fire, using things like observing
the point where the sun is either setting, observing the

(01:37:05):
point where the sun is rising, and how those those
site light cycles will interplay with the natural world. Beginning
to introduce some of the frequency type stuff out into.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
The environment.

Speaker 14 (01:37:24):
So I've had some experiences with this where I've worked
with toning and chanting and things like that, and I've
had two distinct experiences where I was I just kind
of had a pull to go out into the woods
and sit in a particular spot and start doing a
low vibratory sound like that, and within about a minute,

(01:37:46):
I had a tree fall not quite one hundred yards
away from me, enough enough to get my attention, right. So,
I think that what I'm seeing is to start to
take some of these light and sound practices and start

(01:38:06):
to bring them out into an exploratory sense. And now
we've got this kind of clean slate of what this
land that we're on used to be and what it
is now. So I'm open to exploring this, but I'm
seeing some inklings of some exciting things.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
So what I'm hearing you say is with teaching, used
a lot of music and used a lot of different
progressions as structure in order to teach relationship. And then
with the devices with light, frequency and sound, also used
a certain structure that was dependent upon electricity and the
devices themselves in order to create a relationship with yourself.

(01:38:46):
And now you're talking about Okay, we're moving into a
new world in many ways, and it is vital to
also discover new ways to establish relationship. And you're looking
at and correct me as I go astray is that
you're looking at being out and really communing with nature.

(01:39:11):
And somebody's gonna hear that and go that ain't new. However,
it's not about the nature being new. It's about our
ability to communicate with nature from a different strata.

Speaker 14 (01:39:25):
Yeah, there's there's sort of an animistic quality that I'm seeing,
And you know, I can I can share a little
bit about some of my own an experience that I
had when my son was born, having to do with
with vibration and so my son, his name is Jarrek.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
We call him Jarrow, and it's spelled dj a r
e k or what we call him Jarrow. And this
is a name that I.

Speaker 14 (01:39:54):
Found in a sort of like a trance type space.
And what this name means is to create light out
of the darkness with vibration. And so when Jarro was born,
he was born at home and it was just Jadie
and I and she got to a certain point in

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the delivery process where he was not coming out, so
she called her friend who was there. She's a midwife,
but her friend was there as a supporting midwife as well,
and she said, I need your help with this particular
aspect of it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
And so she came and she got him. He was born,
and he was.

Speaker 14 (01:40:36):
He had been stuck for a period of time. So
he was like a really dark blue color and it
was kind of intense for me to see. And he
came out and he was he was okay. He was
sort of not really crying and a little sluggish as
far as moving because he had been kind of bound
up for this period of time. Neither of the women

(01:40:56):
were concerned, but for me, it was the type of
thing where I got to a point where I was like,
I need this to be moving on a little bit
quicker from this like interim stage here. So for some
part of me just had this calling to just start

(01:41:17):
and doing these really deep, long oms. And when I
would do that and I would finish a breath, he
would actually respond and start to cough and cry a
little bit. And so then I did it again, and
maybe you know, ten minutes later he had come into
his body in a different way that as for my

(01:41:40):
comfort level, felt like sufficient, and that was what I
had to be able to offer. So there's this relationship
that you know, I don't know exactly what that's going
to look like for you or for for someone else,
but it's it's something that is really deep inside of me,
and I I'm excited to be able to facilitate others

(01:42:05):
to explore what this might mean for them and how
that could be expressed in their relationship with the natural world.
And so you know, the Mountains of North Carolina is
the template that I have to explore that with, right
and because it was kind enough to cooperate and show

(01:42:27):
you certain things and sacrifice certain things if you want
to put in those terms. But to me, the tree
laying down is not sacrificing, it's letting go. It's surrendering.
And in that surrender there's an opportunity what that is
who knows, just to allow it, to align it, to

(01:42:49):
accept it, and to act with it, to dance with it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
And the reason I'm bringing that last one that a
lot of people may object to is because that goes
back to what you were just saying. The feminine energy
is there, just saying Okay, we got this it so
it's natural and it's going to occur. I'm allowing this,
and the masculine energy is acting with it, and it's facilitating,

(01:43:13):
it's supporting it, it's drawing it out. And there's a
gorgeous balance between those things. We believe it or not
are at that place. It's the last question of the evening.
Anything you'd like to share with our audience, Anything you'd
share you'd feel remiss if you didn't express anything that
we talked about that you want to go back and

(01:43:35):
flush out a little bit more.

Speaker 14 (01:43:39):
Well, I would just like to say that, you know,
I touched upon this a little bit earlier, but you know,
growing up in southern California and having the educational and
cultural shapings that I did.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
I think that, you know, I had.

Speaker 14 (01:43:58):
The wrong idea about out what the kind of like
the fabric of the human spirit in this country and
particularly in the South is made of. And I feel
like I was shown something that has really been amazing
and humbling. And so that part of the world, that

(01:44:19):
part of the country, you know, in my childhood and
my upbringing, had been kind of held in this way
like us Southerners, you know, And I would say that,
like you know, I had, I have been shown that
there is a immense beauty and power and compassion to

(01:44:43):
that part of the world. And so where else is
there that we might think we know something about, but
we don't until we actually get inside it, you know.
And I think that that has been such a huge lesson,
just like the the fierceness and the tenderness and the
beauty of the human spirit that I've been shown through
this last few months.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
You know, it's been a pleasure getting to know you.
I've just been and Jad and Jarrow and you know,
the entire family. It's been a blessing. And just to
watch it grow and sort of follow along loosely as
it has its own you know, organic life is a blessing.

(01:45:27):
So thank you and thank you for joining me, and
thanks for playing. In all honesty, y'all, we weren't planning
to do this this long today. It was going to
be a little hit and run. However, we're both having
so much fun we went, let's keep playing. So many, many,
many blessings. Thank you, thank you Greg. All Right, y'all,

(01:45:48):
you know the gig. If you have questions and you
don't feel like we answer them, or that they have
nothing to do with this, or you like something fleshed
out further, email Inner Journey Greg Friedman and at Gmail. Also,
lots and lots of people work their booties off to
put on this show. Thank you to all, y'all, and

(01:46:08):
most of all, thank you to you guys, the listening audience.
This show does not exist without your participation. For that
and so so much more, we are hugely grateful. Thank
you you've been listening to in Her Journey with Greg Friedman.

(01:46:29):
Good night,