JOSEPH SELBIE PART 2

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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after this.

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You know?

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Name?

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You wanna.

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Ain't you ain't.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Welcome back.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
You're listening to and a journey with Greg Friedman on
k x F M one oh four point seven. All right, y'all,
we have Joseph Selby coming up in a little bit,
and I'm gonna ask you right now to take a
little ride with me. The truth of this world, as

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far as I can recognize it is that we are
the creators of our own reality. We, as I say
every single week at the beginning of this program, are
the ones who decide the timber of our lives. It's
our lives, it's our choice. And what I mean by

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that is everything that you see around us is a design,
and everything that we choose as the designer shifts, the
timber shifts, the color shifts, the love And if we're
providing certain things that are ar due is perhaps we're
providing them because we're looking to go through that process.

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If we're providing things that are easy and simple and lovely,
perhaps it's because we're learning how to receive. There could
be a gazillion other explanations. The explement exll see I
created that the explanation is unimportant the understanding that every

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single one of us can choose happiness, can choose divinity,
can choose to be magic, can choose to be a victim,
or to choose to be empowered. It is ultimately what
we recognize the world to be and live accordingly. Can
we surrender? Can we suspend our disbelief? Can we suspend

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our disbelief and provide an opportunity, provide an avenue for
us to flourish, for us to grow, for us to
be happy, for us to breathe. Because ultimately, if you
understand that all of this that you see around you
is your creation, then think about the opportunities, the possibilities,

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the considerations, and then just be that because the truth
of the matter is we, every single one of us.
Each of us is source energy, we God incarnate and
from that place, from that recognition, from that realization, from
that making real, we create ourselves as peaceful, loving beings

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that are capable of breathing, are capable of exhaling, and
are capable of loving. All we have to do is
understand we created the wave, and we created the ride,
and what do you want that ride to look like?
It's up to every single one of us. There's not
one of us that can't do this. The only inhibition

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is our mindset. Whether that's wellness, whether that's happiness, whether
that's love, whether that's bountifulness. Everything is possible, Everything is possible.
And we'll be back in a little bit with our
guest Joseph Selvey. You are listening to Inner Journey with

(08:36):
Greg Friedman on K E x F M one O
four seven.

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Have to lead the BM got to scream.

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Still two people better.

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Even though sit there that.

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Wander But I'm not take a good time, not too hard.
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You know your life got so much to do. The
fever know.

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Not be massive?

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Nice to go massive?

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Do God come from there?

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Tell him about us?

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Come to bear that way?

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What'd you going?

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That was there?

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And Suda.

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Take that time a bad way? So my God takes
my face.

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Tell him to.

Speaker 9 (12:36):
Right up.

Speaker 8 (12:41):
Comes right a.

Speaker 9 (13:04):
Hi.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
This is James Redfield, author of the Celsie Prophecy, and
you're listening to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
All right, y'all, welcome back. We have a very special
guest with us this evening.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Joseph Selby is known for creating bridges between modern evidence
based discoveries of science and ancient discoveries of the mystics.
He has authored Breakthrough the Limits, excuse me, break Through
the Limits of the Brain, The Physics of the God,
the Yogas, and he has taught yoga, Nanda's Yoga meditation,

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and universal experiential spirituality through the Oh Man, I don't
know what's going on my mouth today throughout the US
and Europe. And his latest book is the Physics of
Miraculous Healing. Joseph, Welcome to Inner Journey.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
On absolutely pleasure. I'm going to start with the same
question that I ask all of our guests. We've had
everybody and their cousin on this program. We've had authors
and artists and shaman and medicine men. We've had Bruce Lipton,
Greg Braden, Maryann Williamson. We've had so many amazing guests
on this program. And to a person, there was an

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event or a series of events that acted as a
catalyst to thrust them on a significant aspect of their journey.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
What story do you want to share with our listeners
this evening?

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Well, I think they sort of seminal experience that put
my feet on the path to spiritual seeking was allucinogenic
experience I had while I was in college, and I'd
had many before then. Was a child of the sixties

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and seventies and did a lot of experimentation with recreational drugs.
But thisperience was different. I was calm rather than excited.
I was energized. I was clear minded, and I felt
this tremendous sense of joy and well being. And I

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had already been starting to meditate and studying the teachings
of Barmanca Yogananda, but this direct experience was so convincing,
so deep, so moving to me that it really set
me in the in the direction I was considering, But

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it set me in that direction with much more certainty.
And that certainty and that direction have have stayed with
me ever since.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Will you elaborate a little bit and tell me about
that experience in a little bit more detail on how
that led you to you say certainty, I feel inclined
to say clarity.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Well, it was more of a than it was a
mental process, So I would equate clarity with how I
was thinking, and I was thinking clearly. But the certainty
came from just this undeniable depth of feeling that I
was connecting to the divine, that I was connecting the spirit. Moreover,

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that I was connecting to myself. I was discovering and
experiencing in a very powerful way the higher potential that
I've now come to understand is everyone's higher potential, not
just my own. And it was the realization that we
can be, we can feel, we can be aware of

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so much more than we know. And I also knew
at the end of that night that I probably wasn't
going to recreate that experience by taking more hallucinogenic drugs.
I knew enough to know that I had to find

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it through my own efforts in medication and in yoga
for myself that would allow me to methodically and deliberately
and consistently have that experience. Again, if I learned to
meditate with concentration, with open heart, and that has proven

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true over the years, I have more than recreated that experience,
more than rediscovered that experience.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
And what was the moment, like, was there a voice?
Was there a vision? Was there? What helped with that
realization in the middle of that journey.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Well, I've come to understand it in hindsight. At the time,
I probably couldn't have articulated very well why it was
such an impactful experience. But in the teachings of Yogananda,
who wrote autobiography The Yogi, a very famous spiritual book
read by millions, he says in that book that God

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is ever new joy. You can define God in other way,
but the way in which we primarily experience God is
to be filled with joy, filled with bliss, saturated in bliss.
And that's what I experienced in that hallucinagenic experience. And
so as I say, it was more that I felt

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it than that I even understood it, But I knew
in the feeling of it, in the direct experience of it,
that I wanted more and deeper.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
And what did that catapult you into?

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Well, in a number of steps, I went from that
experience to embracing meditation practice more wholeheartedly. And I had
already had some connection to Yogananda and his teachings, and
so I followed those with more depth. And then that

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finally led me over probably a year or more, to
discovering a spiritual community in northern California called Ananda, where
everyone in the community was and is a student of Yogananda,
a disciples of Yogananda. And so I have, to my

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great delight and joy, for the last fifty plus years,
been living in an ashram. But it's unlike most ashrams
that people would probably envision who had any idea in
mind of them at all. It's really a community. It's
a village. We all have our own jobs, our own homes,

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we have shared school, we have shared property. But mainly
we work together, we spend time together, we meditate together.
We do a lot of teaching of people who come
to the community, come to our retreat called the Expanding
Light Retreat. And basically I get to give my life

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and time and energy to helping people discover what I discovered.
It was so impactful, so life changing for me.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
And how do you go about doing that?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Which part?

Speaker 5 (20:31):
How do you go about helping people realize what was
so impactful to you?

Speaker 9 (20:38):
You know?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I often ask myself about what is the most effective
way to help people understand, embrace get enthusiastic about meditation.
And I've realized over the years that everybody is different.
They're coming to a point in their life, perhaps where

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they're just wanting something more, or they've already touched on
Yogananda's teachings in some other context, or they're really in
a difficult place in their life. They have a watershed
period where they realize the life that they've been leading
isn't working. Perhaps their health is declining. Generally, it's more

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just their happiness is declining, their stress. They're tired, things
aren't working the way they had hoped they would, and
they really want to find something deeper, find something more
more meaningful, more effective, more happiness producing.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
And how do you help them do that?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Basically, I teach people and encourage people to medicate. It's
not what I say, it's what they do that makes
it work. And meditation is hands down the most effective
way for people to find joy, to improve their lives,
to increase their energy, to increase their concentration, their ability

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to work and be creative. Meditation is the single most
thorough remaker of people that exists. It's often hard for
people to think that just fitting quietly is going to
have that transformation of an effect on them, and it
doesn't immediately. I don't want to give anybody the impression

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that the first time you do it you're going to
have a tremendous experience. But if you stick with it
and by thinking where that I mean weeks to months,
to a regular practice at a regular time of the day,
give it your focus and attention, but you can begin
to feel the the you know, first touch of that joy.

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You can feel peace, you can feel just an abiding
sense of well being that has nothing to do with
what in particular is happening in your life, whether things
are going well or bad, or you're in a relationship
you like, or you're in a relationship it's difficult. Whether
you have a lot of money, you don't have enough money.
None of those things have any bearing on that inner experience.

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And that's when that's when people are the most help
when they get to that point on their own, when
they realize they have access to happiness, they have access
to joy, they have access to a profound sense of
well being that they can choose to access.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
A lot of people in Western culture still have this
vision of meditation as this guy with a shaved head
in a saffron robe in a cave with his legs crossed.
How do you take the fear out of meditation? How
do you make it accessible and easy and welcoming to newbies.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, you know, a lot of the people that come
to learn meditation here at an On the village and
in any of our other communities and centers that are
around the world often have already meditated. They've learned to meditate,
they have some techniques that they already use, but it
may not have taken you know, may not have really

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had that magic happen. So what I see with people
who come and start learning the techniques that we teach
here Yoga Nanda's meditation technique is when it works, it's
because they were at the right time in their life,
and they didn't really need they weren't really afraid, they
weren't really concerned about it. If someone is skeptical, I

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don't try to do anything. I mean, I'm only offering
what I know to people who are interested in learning
it and learning more. But if someone skeptical, were they
really have deeped out about whether meditation is going to
do anything for them, I don't find that there's really
anything I could say that would make much of a difference.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
And I got to tell you I disagree with that.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
It's people are going to start from where they are
and do what they can, and sometimes that means that
they may not be available to jump in in a
specific methodology. But that doesn't mean that meditation in some
form another can't be of aid to them, can't change
the frequency of their lives, And it doesn't have to

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be this way at this time. It's like, it's not
that any particular one is the light in the way.
It's people have a gazillion different ways to get to
any destination, and who are we to dictate that one
is correct and one is incorrect. And instead of just saying,
all right, so this is where you are, well, let
me work with you from where you are, instead of saying, nope,

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go back, come to me when you fit this prerequisite
in this box.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's what I'm hearing.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Is that what you're saying, Well, I'm sorry you got
that impression, because I agree with everything you just said.
I only meant that, you know, I'll do my best
to make meditation a enticing prospect. I'll do my best
to help them practice the technique or experience the technique.

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But if they're skeptical, I think, as you were saying,
maybe it's just not the time. So I'm not going
to press them or make them feel like this is
the only way, the only right way to meditate, and
the only right way to live. But it's entirely up
to them whether they are wanting to embrace it and
are open to embracing it. But by and large those

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are their rarity. Almost everyone who comes to learn to
meditate has some has some interest in it. It's not
just somebody I've met at the local diner and gotten talking.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
To absolutely people.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
And you could have interest in it and still be skeptical.
And because you don't understand, you don't know, you're ignorant.
It's just that, and ignorant is not a bad word.
It just means that you're not in the know. You
just are unaware of the information. And it's okay to
go into something with some level of skepticism and to

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have some kind of a questioning nature. And see does
this resonate for me? And if this particular manner doesn't
resonate for me, does that mean that I can't meditate
or meditation isn't for me? Or is it this particular
way that it's being expressed or taught is not for me?
And they're all okay, And it's also okay to be skeptical.

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It's there going to be the majority of people in
Western culture, in my experience, began with some level of skepticism,
and in doing so, it's that was a pathway to
their own curiosity, and that was a pathway to them
also divining what's appropriate what and equally important, what's unimportant

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to them. It's there's a certain place that, yes, we
need to get to surrender. However, we don't start at
surrender necessarily.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I never like that word, to be honest with you,
because I think that it does sound to the Western
mind as a you know, a letting go of will,
a letting go of purpose, letting go of ambition. And
my experience with meditation is that it strengthens your will,

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it clarifies your purpose, it clarifies your ambition, and that
the trick is to do it with the spiritual energy,
with that present that you experienced in meditation, and have
that add to your own power to do those things.

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So I avoid that notion that you're surrendering.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
Yeah, I don't have to get stuck on a word ever,
So that leads me to wonder, how does understanding the
cycle of the Yugos give us insight into the past, present, future,
and to the development of mankind.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well, that's a big question. How how much time do
you want to devote to that. I don't want to
assume that our listeners have any knowledge of the Yugos,
But in a nutshell, the Yugas are a cyclic view
of the rise and fall of human civilization over a

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twenty four thousand year cycle. This comes to us from India,
but also something that exists in almost every ancient culture
in the world. The one we're most familiar with that
matches it in the West is the Greek. The gold,
silver Bronze and Iron ages cycle that was shared by

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many of the Greek philosophers who left a record of
that time. But according to what I understand of the
Yugot and where we are in the cycle today, are
in a ascending phase of the cycle. So if you

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think of the cycle as being like the moon phases,
you know, the moon goes from full to half and
then down to the sickle moon and then the new moon.
But it doesn't just go right back to full. It
goes from the new moon to the sickle moon, to

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the half moon and finally back to the full. So
the cycle, as it's taught of the Yugas, says that
we are in sort of the sickle moon. We're just
coming up from the low point of the cycle. But
it means, as it is the low point, as it
is coming upward from the low point, is that we

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have a very forward looking culture. We have the sense
of always breaking new ground, rather than if we were
in the descending cycle we might be constantly lamenting the
loss past higher consciousness and age. The key thing for
us now, according to the Yugas, is that we are

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becoming more aware of energy and for us as individuals,
that also means more aware of our personal energy, our
life force, which is one of the reasons why medication
is becoming more and more practiced, more and more popular
all over the world, but particularly in the West right now.

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Mm hmmm, because having that greater awareness of our own
personal life force goes hand in hand with what we
feel and experience when we meditate. So the upward swing
of the you guys is helping us in that direction.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I believe you know.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
We're going to take a short break, but I'm going
to leave you with a little bit of a tease
and something to ponder during the break. Last time you
were on the program, I asked this, and I think
it bears re asking if we are indeed one with
God in our divine self, why don't we know it?

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You are listening to in our journey with Greg Friedman,
and we'll be back right after this.

Speaker 14 (33:02):
Old man, Look at my life, I'm a lot like
you were, Old man, look at my life.

Speaker 13 (33:14):
I'm a lot like you, old man.

Speaker 8 (33:31):
Look at my.

Speaker 10 (33:31):
Life twenty four and there's so much more live alone
in a paradise.

Speaker 12 (33:39):
That makes me think of.

Speaker 13 (33:43):
Love lost, such a cost.

Speaker 10 (33:46):
Give me things that don't get lost, like a coin
that won't get.

Speaker 11 (33:52):
Tossed rolling at you, don't man, take.

Speaker 8 (34:05):
A look at my life, on the life, liking.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Someone to love me the hall.

Speaker 8 (34:14):
Okay, look in my eyes and even tell that.

Speaker 13 (34:37):
Ullabies.

Speaker 10 (34:39):
Look in your eyes, run around the same old pound.
Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much
to you. I been first and last.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Look at how the time goes past.

Speaker 13 (34:58):
But I'm all alone, old man, less and a.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
Lot a lotment. Give me my eyes and you can tell.

Speaker 12 (35:29):
That, Oh man, look at my life. I'm a lot
like you.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Hi, I'm Bruce.

Speaker 15 (35:53):
Listen and you are listening to inner Journey.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
You heard the man you are listening to In a
Journey with Greg Friedman on k x F M one
O four seven broadcast from Laguna Beach. For Laguna Beach
and for the entire world. We are sitting here to
this evening with Joseph Selby. Joseph Selby has written I

(36:20):
believe this is his fourth book, and it's called The
Physics of Miraculous Healing, and we are going to get
into that in a little bit. First of all, welcome back, Joseph, appreciate.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
You coming on.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Glad to be back.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
And the question I asked was something I did ask
last time you were on the show. But I think
it's important. If we actually are God in our divine self,
why don't we realize it?

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Well, it's an excellent question, actually, I think if more
people would ask it, they might get a really important answer.
I find the simplest way to answer it is to
draw on neuroscience. So neuroscience is a broad field, as
you would expect. So one of the things that I

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found most intriguing is that when we are born, we
have very few, almost no free set behavior, and the
human infant is more helpless than any other infant across
the animal kingdom. Most animals have some built in survival

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instincts or built in behaviors that kick in at first,
but human babies don't, and it takes a number of
years for human babies turning into infants and toddlers and
into their early three and four years of age are

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having to build circuits in the brain through experimentation. So
they experiment with moving their body, which causes a circuit
to form in the brain, moving their hands, moving their feet,
learning to talk, walk, All of those activities build circuits

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that are sort of labor saving devices, so that when
you've built a circuit and you want to repeat that
movement with your hands or you know, let's say we're
a little older, we want to throw a ball or
we want to catch a ball, that we don't have
to concentrate to the extent that infants do, where they

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have to figure out, you know, now I'm going to
move this thing over here at this farm, and I'm
going to lift it up, and I'm going to open
my hand and try to catch the ball. All those
things happen automatically because it's a repetitive experience. Maybe not
always catching balls, but there are many many repetitive experiences
that we have as infant having to do with just

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gaining control of the physical bass. So it's labor saving
because you don't have to think it through each time.
You just have this automatic circuit. This is the good news.
The bad news from the point of view of why
we don't know what our stupendous reality is is because
we tend to create circuits that fixate us on using

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the physical body and the emotions we have and the
thoughts that we think in associate in association with using
the body, we become more and more adept at being
a physical body, and we lose awareness that we often
actually had as children of a much greater reality over time.

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And then the worst news is that all those circuits
become automatic ways in which we you know, are way
we are in any given day that it tends to
have repetitive reactions to things good and bad. It has
repetitive thoughts that are triggered by you know, that song

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you just played, or something we read, or something we watched,
or an experience at work. All of those experiences that
are coming to us through the senses trigger some circuit
or another that runs the gamut from thoughts to feelings
and memories and physical motions, and it just takes over

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our awareness through us we do when we meditate, and
there are other spiritual practices as well that would also
touch on this, but particularly when we meditate is we
start to rewire the brain with new circuits that are
developed as we become more aware of subtle reality.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, what I hear you
saying is that as we develop neural pathways, we are
also developing a distance from our source, ourselves as source.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
That is the unintended consequence. It's not that it's the
only thing that could happen to us. There are children
who are very gifted, very aware of spirit, who continue
to have that awareness as they grow because they don't
let go of it. It's it's a recurring and routine

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and familiar awareness, and therefore it also creates circuits to
support that kind of awareness.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
So if I was to take that further, what I
hear you saying is that if we were to start
by instilling or instituting a different system of learning other
than this setting the neural pathways, then possibly we will
be closer to source as we developed.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Is that a fair statement?

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yes? Yes, so there are there are people who are
they never they never let go of that sort of
innocent awareness of spirit that they had at birth.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
And is there some other do you know of or
are you participating in anything that would be associated with
development of youth, of children, of babies, even in a
much different construct one that doesn't separate as the one
that actually supports and nurtures us and our connection as

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source energy incarnate.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
The tools are there. The society we live in doesn't
support the use of those tools with young children, not
that it's considered to be a bad thing to do.
But it's just that society is conditioning children from very
young age to be more interested in what is without

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than with what is within, and that it's an incredibly
magnetic pull for children to, you know, learn more about
discover more about the world, to get more involved in
the sort of daily activities that the world takes for granted,
are what it means to live a life. Though, if

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children were open to being trained to meditate or to
become more aware of their life force many other practices,
I think they could retain it. And there are you know,
I have met remarkable young people who were raised in
families where it worked. I know of other families where

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they tried to have their children be interested in meditation.
It didn't work, but a lot of it comes down
to a child's specific circumstances. But when it does work,
it really results in a person who is much more
aware their.

Speaker 16 (44:00):
Subtle self than the average Yes, And what I'm asking is,
if so, if we have a construct that says teach
this way, teach through repetition, teach therefore by developing neural pathways,
is there another construct that you're aware of that can
teach in such a manner that doesn't support separation.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Is there a way to develop children from early on
that says, oh, we don't have to just indoctrinate you.
We don't have to have you repeat something over and
over again until it becomes gospel. Instead, there is a
way for you to learn without defaulting to neural pathways.

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Because in the way you're describing it, neural pathways are
akin to judgment versus assessment. Whereas judgment is boom, put
a label on it, and that's what it is. Assessment
is a presence process. And what I'm asking is, are
you aware of any kind of programs, any kind of devices,

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or education that is open to supporting that.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
There are many systems. I mean, you have one that's
been around for a very long time, the Waldorf Schools.
We have a system of childhood education that was conceived
and pioneered here at Ananda and is a practice with
schools that we have around the world. A lot of

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it comes down to gifted teachers who are able to
open children in a way that is attractive to them,
to maintaining that connection to source or reawakening that connection
to the source, depending on how old they are. I
don't know of any you know, full proof magic system

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that would work with any child, but there are systems
that do an amazingly good job with with many children.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Interesting people want to find out more about you, Will
you share your website and some of the offerings that you.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Have at that site.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yes, my website can be found at Joseph Selby dot com.
The spelling of my last name is somewhat unusual. It's
s E l B I E rather than s E
l B Y, so that Joseph lbwthan I E dot com.
There you can learn about all the books that I

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have written. There are many articles linked to videos and
to other interviews like this one that I've had, and
there's a list of things that are upcoming events for
me that you might be interested in, depending on where
you are in the world, so to speak. But said,

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that's the great starting point if you want to just
go to buying a book. Amazon has all of my
book as an audible format E book format.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
And of course, Brint Joseph Selby dot com. We've reached
the top of the hour. We will see you guys
on the other side.

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Speaker 5 (53:29):
Welcome back to our two you are listening to in
Our Journey with Greg Friedman on k x F. M
Our guest tonight is Joseph Selby. His website is Joseph
Selby dot com and Selby is spelled s E. Lbie.
He has a number of books he's written, break Through

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The Limits of the Brain, The Physics of God, the Yogas,
and his latest offering, The Physics of Miraculous Healing. Joseph,
welcome back to Inner Journey.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Good to be here.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
All right, we may as well jump in this.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
All right, let's talk about what inspired you to write
your latest books.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I think that popular understanding of healing is really limited
by a mechanistic biochemical model of the body that most
people don't realize is one hundred, one hundred and twenty
years out of date. That there have been breakthroughs in

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understanding the nature of the reality around us that go
well beyond the mechanical view that we get from modern medicine.
There's also another side to healing, which is not only
are there deeper physical laws that influence health and healing,

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there are higher laws that are literally out of this world.
They transcend the physical level and reach into the subtle
level of our being, the energy, pure energy level of
our being that can result in what people often think
is miraculous healing. Extraordinarily rapid physical healing is by the

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very nature of modern medicine model believed to be impossible.
The physical body just can't change that fat. Yet there
are lots of examples of it actually happening. They give
you one great story that never fails to fascinate. It
was a young woman named Barbara Kumiski, and I believe

(55:50):
that her story begins when it was sixteen, sometimes in
the nineteen sixties, and she came down with multiple glerosis,
and for the next fifteen years she gradually got worse
and worse. She almost died several times when body systems failed,

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and she was in the flooding care of her parents
for this entire time. But she was, to her impression
and to her parents' impression, nearing the end that her
hands were so curled in toward her forearms that she

(56:33):
could barely do anything with him. Her feet were curled
up towards her shin. She was incontinent and needed oxygen
to survive. And the general feeling was that she was
going soon, we're talking about putting her into hospice care.
But one evening, when happened to be her sister's birthday,

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she was talking to friend voice that said stand up
and walk, and she did. She got up her even
as she was moving to stand, her hands uncurled, her
forearms that had afrophied filled out, her feet returned to

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the flat position on the floor, calves filled out, she
gained weight. She was able to just take off the
oxygen mask without any care, walked into the living room
of her parents' home and did a little ballet move
that she hadn't done since she was sixteen. She saw
her doctor who had been caring for her for all

(57:40):
those years, and he said there was absolutely no sign
of multiple gluros. So that is just impossible from the
point of view of modern medicine. But it isn't from
the point of view of modern physics and what I
like to think of as spiritual science. That there are

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other laws at work that go beyond the ones that
modern medicine relies on for their model, that can explain
such rapid change. So I was fascinated by trying to
put together these two aspects of reality the reality seen
through the lens of modern energy physics and through the

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lens of spiritual science, to help people understand how to
tap into their own power to heal beyond what modern
medicine is possible, and to believe in the possibility of
healing from conditions that are considered terminal or incurable, and

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to even heal more rapidly.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
Well, I'm certainly no fan of big pharma or modern medicine. However,
I disagree once again that modern medicine absolutely includes the
placebo effect. Now if they are, do they understand how
it works, or why it works, or why it can
be so incredibly effective very limited at best? What I

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hear you saying instead is that what you're working with
is a pathology that allows us to tap into those
things that will essentially what they now call the placebo effect,
will help us self heal.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Yes, that's correct, And I agree with your qualification of
modern medicine embracing the placebo effect. They have embraced it
because it's useful for testing the efficacy of new drugs,
but they don't understand it. They don't have any rationale

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or measurable principle for why it works. But it is
an excellent place to depart from modern medicine's models because
it seems to indicate without having to, you know, wrench
it around, wrench it out of shape, that our belief

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in whether a medicine is going to heal us has
a huge amount to do with whether that medicine actually
will heal us.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
And so what I understood you to say is that
they don't understand how this works. Does that mean that
you have studied and understand at least some aspects of
how this does work.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Yes. So I start in the book on the side
of talking about modern physics, and I end on the
side of talking about spiritual science the modern physics, And
this will take a little bit to kind of present
some layers to what modern physics really is. Modern physics
starts with the idea that matter is an illusion, there

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is no such thing as matter. Matter is energy held
in stable pattern, and that you can split the atom
as fine as you possibly can, but you will never
find any indivisibly tiny ball of matter. There's no such thing.

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It's all energy. And that's the foundation of modern energy physics.
After that discovery, which was in the early part of
the twentieth century Einstein's special theory of relativity. Modern physics
then moved into what generally referred to as quantum physics.
And in quantum physics they discovered, you know, working with

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the foundation, that matter is basically energy. They discovered, among
many things, but a key for this understanding feeling, is
that the energy that makes up matter can, like doctor
Jekyl and mister Hyde, move from behaving like matter to
behaving like waves of energy. This is a wave particle

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duality for those of you who are familiar with it. Essentially,
not only is matter energy, it can also switch into
a different mode of not really even being like matter,
not behaving like matter, but behaving like waves of energy.
And it was for the longest time, for the last
one hundred years or more, thought that this kind of

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transition from energy behaving like matter to energy behaving like
waves did not occur in the human body, that there
were too many other factors that would keep it behaving
like energy, or behaving like matter, if you will, rather
than allowing it to become wavelike. But increasingly there are

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experiments revealing that there are times, and there could be
many times, could be most of the time the inner
unseen part of the body often behave like energy rather
than like matter. Let me give you one recent example
which is kind of fascinating. It's been known for quite
a while now that the brain has different rhythms of

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the neuronal firing. The time it takes for a neuron
to fire and then recharge, and then fire again and
then recharge the fire again. That rhythm can be slow
to really fast. It can go from alpha rhythms to
fata rhythm. But what was only recently measured was that

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this shift, which can be across fifty billion, seventy billion neurons,
can happen instantaneously, like every neuron starts firing in a
new rhythm and again. According to the mechanical laws of
modern medicine, this is impossible, but according to the notion

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that the atoms of the body can behave like waves
of energy allows for this instantaneous communication. If you will
across fifty billion neurons and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
The healing, well, let.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Me take one more step and then I'll come back
to that. The one more step is what is generally
known as M theory. So M theory, building on quantum physics,
has posited that there is a vast realm of energy
that lies beyond the physical universe, which they refer to

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as the bulk. I think it's the single worst word
ever coined for elegant theory. And this vast realm of
energy contains the holographic information that holographically projects the entire
physical universe. That we have a hologram universe rejecting the

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physical universe. What does lies is that we each have
a hologram body projecting our holographically projecting our physical body.
So m theory has made its way, well, I'm sure,
with no intention to do so, has made its way
to echo one of the sort of timeless tenets of

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subtle spiritual teaching, which is that we have a subtle
energy body and that we are simultaneously resident. If you
will simultaneously aware of simultaneously using both a physical body
and a subtle energy body that are interpenetrating. The subtle

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energy body is not often far away, it's present right
where we are at this moment. And this is the
deepest key to miraculous healing, and that is that if
you can change the hologram, you can change the subtle
energy body. It will instantaneously change the physical body.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Okay, I agree with that entirely.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
So that well, that is a big subject, but I've
tried to simplify it down into three means. Three ways
we can uh affect the subtle energy body. One through
our emotion, two through our beliefs, and three's through connecting
the storage. So your your subtle energy body is pure energy.

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It's energy intelligently coordinated. When we have a negative emotion,
what we're doing is we're disrupting that intelligent energy. We're
disrupting this healthy pattern of energy that is our subtle
energy body, and that is immediately reflected in the physical

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body to one degree or another. That studies have shown
I'm sure you're familiar with that there is a very
obvious and real correlation between people having I mean they
call it mental illness or just emotional illness and ill health,

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premature deaths. That the clinical studies they don't know why
this again, modern medicine, just like stibo theory, doesn't really
know why it should be so, but their clinical studies
has proven that it is the case that a essentially
a lot of negative emotions reverberating around in your being.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
They don't write energy body, but so it causes disease,
lack of ease. Absolutely, I agree with that. Aside from meditation,
what do you suggest in order to really not live
in any negative emotions?

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Well, first, I wouldn't set it aside. I would say
that meditation is the most effective and direct way to
lift your emotions, to lift the heart, to calm the
reverberating distortion of your stal energy body caused by negative
emotions by instead tapping into these deeper, calmer, more upward.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
Moving You're right, I misspoken instead of saying aside from,
in addition to or other than, what other means would
you suggest?

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Well, singing great.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Answering, positive song, lift your heart chance, listen to uplifting music.
Music has a characteristic that is great for this sort
of thing because it bypasses the thinking process and goes
right to the heart.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Perfect answer, isn't bad news? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
Again?

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Perfect?

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
I love that we're going to take a short break
and we are going to come back with more Enerjerty
and our guests. Joseph sel Be regarding his latest book
that is available everywhere including Amazon, and you can find
it all over the place, including his website, Joseph Selby
dot com. It's called The Physics of Miraculous Healing.

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Yeah, my baby is gonta get rid. And it's great

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to be with you, Greg and with everybody who resistening
to us, and to have the opportunity to share my ideas.
It's a great pleasure once again to be in your show.
Oh my love to all of you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
You you heard the man you are listening to in
our journey with Greg Friedman on k xf M. We
are here this evening with Joseph Selby. Joseph has written
a number of books. I believe this is your fourth one,
if I am correct, Joseph, your latest book is called
The Physics of Miraculous Healing. And before we left for break,

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we are talking about three primary drivers for that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Will you briefly just name them and then we could
go forward with that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
So develop positive emotion, develop unlimited beliefs, and connect to
source or spirit or God.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Great.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
So now I love all of these and I agree
with all these. So how do we eliminate again with
not that I'm discounting meditation.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
However, there is more than one path in one way,
and one way is not appropriate for everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
So what are the ways to really remove the obstacles
so we can have unlimited beliefs?

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Well, we were talking about emotions, and I think it's
important to have a sense of what an emotion is
and isn't It might help with the process. I think
it's easy to think that if we've had a negative emotion,
it's almost like we've imbibed a toxin that lingers in

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our body, and that in order to deal with it effectively,
we've got to get the toxin out. But I think
that well, in a way is true, is also diverted us,
diverts us from a more effective course because I believe
that emotions are energy. Emotions are life force moving in

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the subtle energy body. So if you can move the
energy in a new way in the subtle energy body.
You don't have to get rid of the former emotion.
You just need to redirect it, transmute it, transcend it
by deliberately and consciously lifting the energy, lifting your heart,

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lifting your being. By I mentioned singing and chanting positive things.
Another way is to lift your energy in general, your
life for it. Yogananda said that joy and energy go
hand in hand, that one of the results of people
who are depressed is that they're also low energy. The

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more energy you have, the more you can lift the heart,
the more you can move the emotion deliberately upwardly into
a higher, more positive, more powerful expressions. Belief with belief.
This is trickier because when I talk about changing your belief,

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this is not an intellectual process. This is not reading
a book or listening to me say that you have
unlimited healing potential. You have to re align your deeply
held beliefs that are more likely to kick in and

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embrace the negative model. Because we've been conditioned for so long,
speaking for myself, by a society in which modern medicine
is sort of king, been conditioned to think that certain
diseases are incurable, conditioned to think that certain kinds of

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cancer are inevitably terminal. To change those kinds of beliefs,
we need to make a determined effort to read the opposite,
to read about miraculous healing experience, to read about near
death experiencers coming back from their near death experience and

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being healthy again having had in some cases what we're
considered to be terminal illnesses. We need to read it
enough and sort of commerse ourselves into enough that we
can begin to believe it, because belief is incredibly powerful.
Let me tell you a story about a man named
mister Wright. Mister Wright was in the hospital in the

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seventies in southern California. He had lymphoma and he had
visible tumors on his chest, He had fluid in his lungs,
and he needed oxygen to survive. But he was a
very optimistic fellow and a deep believer in Western medicine.

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And he read that there was a trial of a
new drug taking place in the hospital that he was
actually in, and he begged his position, Dr West, to
let him be in the trial. And after some time,
doctor West allowed him to join the trial, even though
he wasn't optimal for it because he was too far gone.

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On a Friday, doctor West injected him with this new
drug that was being trialed, called crubiosen, and then left,
after having injected all the other patients as well. He
left for the weekend, and when he returned on Monday
two days later, mister Wright was up and about. All
his tumors had disappeared and the fluid had drained out

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of his lungs, and he checked him a house that
was a hospital A few days later went back home.
Doctor West was fairly astonished because he was the only
one who had had any positive effect. All the other
people in the trial had not fared so well. But
and this is a cautionary tale about not only the
power of belief, but the importance of what you believe in.

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Mister Wright read a month or two later after he
had left the hospital that for biason was failing as
a drug and that it was having very limited to
no effect in any of its trials. Two days later,
mister Wright was back in the hospital. He had the

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tumors once again, his lungs had filled up with fluid,
and he was at death's door. Doctor West was utterly
fascinated by this, and he decided to try something which
today would probably be considered unethical. But he told mister
Wright that while it was true that for biaison was
proving to be ineffective, there was a new and improved

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version of it that was being sent to the hospital
in the next few days, and he would give mister
Wright an injection of it. So the day came, doctor
West injected him. The same thing happened as before. He
responded miraculously completely better in a couple of days, checked

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himself out of the hospital once again. But alas his
curiosity got him, because another month or two later, mister
Wright read in another medical journal that prebiasin was no
longer being considered as a drug any longer, and it
was being taken off of any kind of trial or usage.
Mister Wright once again collapsed into ill health and got

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back into the hospital. Two days later he died.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
Okay, so I'm going to jump in here in the
interest of limited amount of time that we have. And
there's a couple of things. One is you that's textbook
placebo effect, and the other one is also you're talking
about neural pathways and resetting neural pathways, and it takes
a certain amount of time in order to really get

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those neural pathways set. Some people will say eight to
twelve weeks. Other people will say twelve to sixteen and further.
It simply what I hear you saying is you're not
suspending disbelief. Instead, you're instilling or or inserting a new
belief system that includes certain things that may not be

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among the normal indoctrination.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Or education that we get as we're growing up. Is
that accurate?

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Well, that's certainly a general description of the placebo effect.
But in this case, there was no resetting of neural pathways.
There was the resetting of his entire subtle body that
holographically projected illness and then holographically projected health, and then
again holographically projected illness.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
And so forth.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
That our belief shaped our energy body, our subtle energy body, right,
and the deepest hell beliefs we have that they don't
necessarily exist in the brain. There's no resetting of neural
pathways necessary because the subtle energy body can instantaneously change

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any and all things in the physical body.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
And part of it is about what he was doing
was also going, oh, I believe this placebo and then
when he found out that it was another negating factor.
His brain went, oh, then it's not going to work,
and his subtle body followed suit in both directions. We
only have a little bit more time left, so I

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would like to get to our connection to source.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
If that's okay with you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
Yeah, Well, I think connection to source is the most
important because, as I had described earlier, the essence of
source is this wondrous positive emotion of joyousness, of bliss,
and it is the single most powerful way to lift
your emotions. And when you connect to spirit, it's much

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easier to believe in a subt you because you're connecting
to a subtler reality in spirit, and that's suddler you.
If you had any doubts about the possibility of the
power of your belief becomes less so by actual direct
experience of deeper truth.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Absolutely, and.

Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
We are at that last place where I need to
ask you if there's anything you'd feel remiss and if
you didn't share with our listeners this evening, well.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Thank you for allowing me to share. I for people
who might be interested. I am going to be speaking
at a conference in Florida in June from the International
Society of esoteric science. This is in Newsburna Beach towards
the latter part of June, and I will be giving

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a course on my other book that is sort of
in this direction, the Physics of God through Shift Network,
starting in the fall of this year.

Speaker 5 (01:26:05):
Excellent, and all of that information could be found, I
believe on Joseph Selby dot com. Selby is spelled s
E L B I E. That's Joseph Selby dot com. Correct, correct,
Thank you, sir. I am so privileged that you decided
to join us and share your wisdom with our listeners

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this evening.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
And just thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
My pleasure was indeed a pleasure just to discuss excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
All right, you guys, you know the gig.

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
If there are questions that you had you didn't feel
comfortable asking on air, you'd prefer to email do so
at Inner Journey Greg Friedman dot com. If you want
to call in, you're always always welcome to nine four
nine seven one five five nine three six.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
And just gratitude.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
People work very hard behind the scenes in the radio
station and for this show, and I'm incredibly grateful to y'all,
and most of all, I'm grateful to you. The listening audience.
This show does not exist without your participation. For that,
and so so much more, I am hugely grateful you've
been listening to in her journey with Greg Friedman.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Good Night,