March 7, 2023 • 35 mins
Join us as we dive deep into the latest pop culture phenomenon with "The Scandavol," exploring why people can't seem to get enough of the drama in the Vanderpump universe. We'll be discussing all the juicy details, analyzing the players involved and sharing our thoughts on where the story might go next.
"What's Your Number and Did You Lie?" we'll be exploring the taboo topic of sexual partners. job hunt woes and in our "Parenting Fails" segment, we'll be sharing a hilarious and slightly mortifying story about how our daughter missed a VERY important part of sex ed.
Join us for all this and more on "It Goes Both Ways" podcast,
"What's Your Number and Did You Lie?" we'll be exploring the taboo topic of sexual partners. job hunt woes and in our "Parenting Fails" segment, we'll be sharing a hilarious and slightly mortifying story about how our daughter missed a VERY important part of sex ed.
Join us for all this and more on "It Goes Both Ways" podcast,
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New Week New Show. It goesboth ways with Christie and Steve coming up.
Okay, I'm gonna stop you rightthere. We're not doing that bit
anymore. I'm stopping it right now. Oh we can go back to Stevens
Christie. No, no, notthat bit. We're sticking with the Christie
the New Week New Show. Ohsorry, you're you're more creative than that.
Well, this is the intro.So this is always like one of
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those things where I don't know whatto say because I'm teasing what's coming up
on the show. Well, allyou have to say, Steve, yes,
Christy is three words? Two words? What is the name vander Pump
rules? Okay? And the onething we thought our daughter knew that she
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does not that has us super worried. Chuck, if you have a teenage
daughter or son, just because thelast couple of years, you should check
in and make sure that they knowabout and during this episode, we do
have a segment where we hit abutton at insanity, not insanity. We
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don't have an insane life. Wedon't have a Tom and Tom life.
We don't have which is obviously outof control. Let's just get let's just
get it right. The unit isexploding with VPR Who knew that cheating on
your spouse could lead to such drama? And did he cheat on his spouse
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or did he leave his spouse andthen start sleeping with a friend? Oh
okay, say Hunter Biden. Itin other words, it's fucked up,
and I love it. You don'tunderstand that joke. I don't care.
So Hunter Biden, when his brotherdied, When his brother died, his
brothers, he starts sleeping with hisbrother's spouse. Isn't that that's kind of
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fucked Okay, that's not that's noteven left. I will not let you.
I absolutely refuse it, to letyou derail Tom and Tom talk this
hot fucking dish coming out of laI will not have it. Cliffs notes
a version back at the very beginningof Vanderpump rules, Who cares? How
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many years ago? Tom Sandoval inKristen were a couple? He kissed Arianna
in Vegas, so cheated on Kristin. Then Santoval in Ariana got together.
So they've been a couple like apower couple on the show for the last
bunch of years. Now, enterwho cares? How many years ago?
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This girl Raquel. She was datingDJ James Kennedy. They got and is
that the British guy? Yeah,I sued they Okay, they got engaged
a couple of years ago. Sandovalpaid for their engagement party at Coachella,
like arranged all of this big hubbubfor it. Then a year later,
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Braquell calls off the engagement. JamesKennedy. Now we're back, We're almost
to the present point. So nowthere's a new season that's airing right now,
like as we speak. Since shebroke off her engagement with James,
she's just been you know, likeslutsar us, like whatever whatever. Daly
in about Town. Good on herright, because she was with like this
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crazy drunk for five years. Nowshe's crossed the line and she's starting to
dabble with her co stars who arealso spouses of her friends, her close
friends for all of these years.I don't know what to believe, just
like any other Bravo Hollick, youdon't know what to believe. The editors
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of the show or however the storylineplayed out, sort of led you into,
you know, the direction of TomSchwartz, and so I was like,
oh, how could she to Katielike shock and awe. Well,
now that this news is Schwartz wasa decoy. It was never about Rachel
and Schwartz. It was about Raquelin Tom Sandoval, Arianna's boyfriend in life,
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partner whatever. They're not married,that he's been with her for over
a year and they've had this secretthing where they actually have spent holidays together.
Tom was allegedly fiddling around with Raquelwhile Ariana was in the other room
sleeping at their house. She hadinvited Raquel to stay over. They have
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secret love jewelry. So like allthe Bravo fans are now looking back at
old photos and she's got a necklacewith a lightning bolt and he's got a
necklace with a lightning bolts. Andthere's even photos of them going on dates
in disguises like out swear to God, like he's got a fake mustache and
she's got like wigs on and such. They evidently used Tom Schwartz as a
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decoy fuck Katie's feelings. There areeven rumors that he brought Raquel home for
Christmas. Well, Ariana was withher family in Florida after her grandmother died.
All of this was while Raquel andArianna were supposedly growing closer, making
Tom's choice to cheat, specifically withRaquel, all the more crueler. And
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by the way, came out thather name isn't Raquel, it's actually Rachel.
Oh because that was the one wheresomeone went to high school with her.
Yeah, and they found her inthe yearbook and it's Rachel Levis instead
of Raquel. Okay, So soshe being made out to be the bad
guy, the home wrecker or thesand Tom whatever that guy's name is.
Yeah, so they are dubbing itthe scandival after Tom Sandivalum. He is
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absolutely the bad guy in this scenariobecause he's a pig. He's a predator
for sure. He a predator.He can't keep it in his pants.
But they go. They have butthey ay where the wind blows. They
have love jewelry, So that meansthat there's something special be shooting them.
All I know is that Lisa Vanderpumpis going to be on Watch What Happens
Live tomorrow night, and I can'twait because you just want to She's going
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to have all the tea. Theystarted filming again like they were done filming
because it's airing right now. AndyCohen got worried of all of this stink
and he sent film crews racing rightback. Wait, so is it the
TV show that revealed this, becausethat was the whole because this whole thing
started from me at least on Friday, hearing about so allegedly it's been going
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on, and so that's what's goingto kind of make it strange to watch
the show, because it was it'sbeen going on for a year. They
were taping the show, so theywere hiding all of this while filming.
Allegedly, it just got revealed toAriana recently. So but she like last
Wednesday, So how did she findout that part? I'm still a little
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sketchy on. All I know isthat last week, Raquel and Shena,
Shena's another cast Meete. She wason Watch What Happens Live and Raquel made
a couple of slips, and sothat's where I think everyone started and going
back and like rewatching things and relokingat things, and I think it got
spilled that way. It was likezac Alfanakis putting all the strings together,
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doing the calculations and figuring it out. I don't know that reference. Okay,
what are your opinion not the facts. What do you think? Well,
I think that they've been I mean, number one, they've all cheated,
period because if you yeah, becauseif you stop and think about it,
that's how Tom and Ariana got togetherin the first place, was that
he cheated on Kristen with her.So you know, every what's the old
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cliche, it ends like it itends like it starts. Were they going
to be happily ever after? Whoknows, but they seemed to be a
good fit on the show. Um, he's always been a douche canoe.
I feel bad for her, honestly, for Ariana. What if this is
just a smear campaign. Maybe she'sbeen shooting the entire time with Jack's Oh
god, he's not on the showanymore. That's just the only name that
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I recognize from No good on you. I'm I'm actually impressed that you even
pulled out This whole conversation reminds meof something that we talked about the other
day, which is you have alwayssaid, like what your number was,
And I've always said, like whatmy number was? You know, from
the day that we met, right, my number was. I'll probably say
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I said, I said it wasprobably like seven to ten, and you
always said it was what I thinkI told you four, that's what I
told I know for a fact,that's that has to be. That's my
go to number. That's your number. Then more than four less than one
hundred, well more than four lessthan one hundred, more than four less
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than twenty five, dude, probably, But isn't that always the case though,
if you're just getting to know someone. I mean, I'm not that
confident of a person to just wavemy freak flag and just like scream,
I had a hostage, like Ihad my dad left too soon and I
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had daddy issues, like I wasn'tgoing to enter, you know, our
relationship like that. So four isa modest number because it makes it sound
like you're not fresh off the farm. You kind of know what you're doing,
but you're also not I don't thinkyou said four. I think you
should you said no, four wasmy go to a number, really,
one thousand percent, because I thinkat that time I would have thought,
like that's where I told everybody,she's a virgin almost because if you were
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four, Yeah, the old storywas like if the person, if a
guy said a number, then youalways subtracted where if you're if a girl
said a number, you always addedto exactly they were lying now because it's
oh, why though, why though, Let's like jump here for a second,
just because it's okay for a guyto be a stud and it's not
okay for a girl to be awhore, which I don't know if that's
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as true as it used to be. Yeah, but you know we're not
in that world anymore. We don'tget to explore that world unfortunately. Yeah,
do you Okay, let's say,like tomorrow, I got hit by
a car. Did not even hearwhat I said? That's cool? What'd
you say exactly? Because you don'tlisten. Do listen? No, you'll
whispered. You'll listen. I didnot. You'll listen to it in post
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production and then you'll be like,what the fuck and I missed it?
Yep? Keep going. So Iget hit by a car tomorrow, you
have to get on hinge. I'venever heard of it, and I think
it's called hinged, but doesn't matter. Um, Like when it comes to
like like hooking up, what doyou think you would do it? Or
do you think it like you'd beclosed for business? You got old.
I can't imagine. I can't imagine, like I'm I think we've already established
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it. I'm not feeling super hotabout myself right now, so I can't
even imagine having to like flirt withsomeone and all of the exhaustion and all
of the not games, but justthe rhetoric involved, well, because the
rhetoric absolutely makes me want to glazeover the difference with the rhetoric now,
like as you get older, asit like the person back when you started
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dating, I remember that everybody wasbroke, that everybody like didn't really have
success or some people had kind ofsuccess, but it was fake success.
What would you what would be yourbiggest concern with dating someone in your forties?
Honestly, as a female, Iwould probably I would probably want to
date someone my age right like dateup. You could probably get a dummy
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though down there just to stella gota groove back, right, not worthy
of a stud right now, Butanyway, I would probably date up as
far as like age older, Iprobably would. But here but here's the
thing, why are they able forme to date? Like? What's wrong
with you? What kind of baggagedo you have? Yeah? That is
what you don't have to worry aboutwhen you're in your twenties and thirties.
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The baggage, for the most partis the baggage. Good point. Now
that you're in our bracket, I'mlike, oh shit, dude, if
i'm dating up, I'm dating someonein their fifties, which is freaking wild
to me. And yeah, whatkind of ten lives have you had before
me? I don't know that soundslike too much. That's like suddenly you
find out that they have like threedifferent kids with three different moms, So
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then you'd automatically be like but thenyou would also like, Okay, this
guy that's like a you know,fifty handsome silver fox, looks good,
looks like you know, Richard Gearbecause that's what you're into. Probably wow,
and just really fresh reference right there, buddy, you're current with the
time, supercurrent. Okay, helooks like Patrick Dempsey. I think for
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you, he'd have to be atleast a seven. Um, he would
have to be taller than you.He would have to be a good listener.
Okay, who's not taller than me? Good point, I think it.
Well, that's my point, soopens it up. And then he's
got to have one heck of ahog on him. Oh I'm a tiny
lady though, so that's not reallya big deal. So what kind of
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guy do you want? Honestly,someone that makes me laugh and it's good
in bed cone lingus. That's thehardest part about our relationship is that I'm
not very good at cone lingus.Okay, can we stop? I said
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it one time. It's a jokeand I whispered it. You don't need
to call attention to it. Sothere was a time in our lives where
we had to drive from Rochester,New York, all the way to Minnesota.
That's like twelve hundred miles. Idon't think that's true, but it's
a lot of mine. It's along eighteen hour trek across this great nation
of ours, through Ohio, throughIndiana, through Illinois, through Wisconsin,
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through Pennsylvania. Just make sure everyoneelse I know my states. And in
that process we realized something that wehad to have directions, and we just
realized today that we don't know howwe did it, like, we're not
sure how we actually had And Ihonestly think map quest that was the name
of the website that I've been thinkingabout for hours and hours. It just
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popping into my head. I waslooking up all these different names, like
how did we actually do a mapquest? I think it was how we
lived our lives before we got cellphones that had maps on it. But
how did we get map quest?We look, we're on the internet,
and we typed in the end locationthat we were going too. We drove
from Rochester, New York to theMarriott and Saint Louis Park, Minnesota.
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And I think that we just hadmap quest for our route. Okay,
so the whole conversation did it outright? The whole conversation got started because
I was talking to you about whenI would go down to the city,
all like to Manhattan to stay withmy step sister, And how did I
get there? Because it was beforecell phones, indefinitely before any kind of
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you know, map app to helpyou. So you think, and I
have no memory, so I canremember driving by myself, But how did
I find her house? Yeah?Like how did I get there? You
could get to the city easily,could you just follow the signs to New
York City or whatever it is?Yeah? But how do we do things
before? I haven't seen the lastof us on HBO. Everyone said,
it's an amazing show, but thatis the only thing that gives me anxiety.
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I guess there's lots of things thatcould be anxiety. When we take
that back. One of the thingsthat if the anxiety breaks me out,
it's like, what it happens ifthere really is a like a some kind
of a weird event that happens wherewe lose all our cell phones, we
lose access to the internet, likesomeone clips the line. Because there is
a line, we wouldn't know howto do anything anymore, and nothing,
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like it's bad enough that I haveto use a calculator to do like two
plus two, but seriously, Iwouldn't know how to do anything without no
planes would come down from the sky. They would be falling, that people
would be lost. I wouldn't knowspit backward, like because like our kids
want to like Isaac, he wantto play an open gym. He went
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with his kid Garrett, right,and you asked on the way out,
like, oh, does Garrett havea phone? Right? Who cares with
garrets a phone? Like does heknow our phone number? Which I knew
that it would be fine to workout, but like I think Isaac knows
your phone number and my phone numbermemorize he doesn't have his own phone yet.
But it's the same thing where anyoneoutside of you and me, I
don't know anyone else's phone number.So like if my phone did like a
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huge dump and I lost phone mbers, I'd be screwed. Yeah, I'd
be screwed on how to get placesbecause I've lived here. We've lived here
for nearly twenty years, and whichis wild? Which is wild? We
live in the northwest part of town. If you asked me to go anywhere
on the southeast part of town,you couldn't do it, and even a
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lot of I couldn't do it.I think we get an app without We'll
get an app, Like you're like, hey, we're gonna go meet at
the at the pump and go inApple Valley. Good luck me finding it
without an app to at me specifically. So that's my point is I just
didn't have a recollection. It waslike that part left my brain of how
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did I function as a human beforea cell phone and before a helping app?
Like I traveled all the time,and a lot of it was by
myself. We become solve how didI survive? I don't know. I
couldn't be that person now if Iwant to do. Because the other day
you went outside and you took picturesof juven and Saturn or Saturn and Venus.
We can't decide. It was Yeah, two stars were actually two planets
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in the style. And I saidto Olivia, my ace, you can
see the north Star and she's likecool. I'm like, dude, that's
how you get places. Oh,my north Star. That's how we freed
the slaves. Okay, that's howChris Columbus got across. That's how Magellan
was able to figure it out becausethey had the stars up there. That's
how it. Half of the ancientcivilization. They would look up at the
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sky and be like, oh,there's O'Ryan's belt and there's the north Star.
That's how you got places. That'show I know in my life the
sun, for example, I knowwhich way is west because that's where the
sun's gonna set every day. Doyou think our kids, No, we're
and that's the real But you knowwhat they will know, Steve what common
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cornmath. So we're taping on aTaco Tuesday. Taco Tuesday, So it's
officially been a week without two cellphones. How are you feeling. Oh
man, that's the craziest part.Yeah, because for work I had two
phones and it has felt strange.I've had a lot of ghost vibrates.
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I've reached for a second cell phonemultiple times. Oh what does that mean?
Uh, And it's it's definitely astrange thing, but I think it's
truthfully the way to go. Onecell phone is the way to go.
You seem more interested in what's happeningaround you now because you're not ping ponging
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from left to right two phones,two phones, like looking at your hand
like a dual screen. Yeah,it's also bad. It was getting out
of control. It was bad formy neck. Yeah, you're getting a
haunch. It was bad for me. Yeah. But the Hey, but
so far, like the whole likejob hunting process has gone knock on wood
relatively well, like I've actually hadconversations with people. But there are still
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are things that drive me insane aboutthe whole job interview process. Between the
idea of the ghosting that companies do. Oh yeah, the number of times
that you sign out a resume andyou don't get a reply that they even
received the resume. That's the leastof my concern. You know, I
talked on the podcast last week.I believe that I said that I emailed
the CMO of a company, thechief marketing officer of a company, and
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got a response, even though Icouldn't get a response from the HR director.
Right. But there's another company justnow. Recently I interviewed with them
and they said they really liked meand they really want to go to the
next stage. And now they've justghosted. Oh my god. That's the
kind of thing where I think Ihave the lady's cell phone bur and I
could call her, but I don'twant to. But it's like, see,
but what's etiquette? Though, like, I have no idea. I
don't think there is a single truthwhen it comes to etiquette. Since we're
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both in the job interview stage oflife, I've come across some interesting questions
like that I've gotten from possible employers. Most recent one, she asked me,
I'm going to give you three wordsnow top of mind. Pick one
and describe why that represents you.Okay, so I'm going to give it
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to you ready, phone, textor email? Oh? Text? Why
next? Is always going to bemy best favorite way to communicate back?
And forth with people either from workare for personal life. Why because it's
quick and I know that they're gettingit to their phone to the person.
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I know the emails. People doget emails to their phone, but I
feel like, wow, the longestanswer ever. They don't respond as well
to those unless they're sitting at acomputer. But that's just how my brain
works. Phone. That's probably thesmartest way to do it. But I
also don't think that people don't pickup the phone anymore. I don't pick
up the phone if I don't haveto. Okay, I think that you're
missing the point of this hub.You've absolutely gone to the dock side.
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I just wanted to know, likewhich one represented you. It's a psychological
whatever, okay, And so thenyou say text and then the why of
it, and then that shows themwhat type of person you are, what's
important to you, a little bitof how your brain works. You like
things quick, you like things instantgratification, like you can get like deep
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with it. My answer was phonebecause I like that connection. Yeah,
I like to hear the voice onthe other end. I like to hear
the tone, inflection, all ofthat. I think it's more personal Texting
is very impersonal, so is email. It's creating the disconnect between people.
So but it's black and white.That's the thing that you like though,
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you're the person, Oh my god, you just jumped and I just realize
that you jumped out of your chair. I think that you like for conversation
purposes, for like for friends.I'm pointing because I have a point,
and when you're a point, youvigorously point to the person or up into
the air, which I could do. Instead, you're the person you like
receipts, I do. That isyour line djure And if you have a
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phone conversation, there can I likereceipts what I'm dealing with gas lighters.
But that's you know, we've alreadycovered that so many times. Like at
the end of the day, ifI have to deal with people, I
want to see you, I wantto hear you. Yeah, that's when
you're at like on a friendship level, but on a work level, I
would Actually I haven't had that typeof job though, Like any of my
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jobs are kind of like service industrytree, where like I'm the face of
whatever product right whether why are you? Why is that funny? I don't
know? Because I'm the face ofany products. Oh okay, we're joking
about my drinking again. That's shocking. Every episode. Next episode, Christie
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goes to Betty Ford. So ifyou get to the point where you actually
do an interview, or even better, you go into the business to meet
with you know person, that's great. But I did see something on LinkedIn
that I thought was so true,And it's from a recruiter and it's to
all employers, all right, AndI think that this is something that we
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can all stop and listen to,and it's very true. Dear employers,
stop holding out. Too many good, qualified, solid candidates still out of
work while companies are holding out forthe perfect fit. Jobs posted and reposted
for months, sometimes years because theright peron hasn't come along despite hundreds of
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applications and interviews. I used tosuggest certain job boards to our resume clients,
but in the past few years Irecommend using LinkedIn only as well as
network introductions your rs. And there'sthe result. Average job search time has
dropped from six months to two.Why it's hard to discount someone's passion,
personality and story. When you actuallyspeak to them, it's a lot easier
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to ignore a person when they arejust a number or a group of keywords
and an ats, which I'm guessingis like a hiring thing. Okay,
okay. Three weeks ago we madean introduction between a client of ours and
a connection here on LinkedIn, wherehe's already in his third and final interview.
Let's get real again, human again. People aren't keywords, and they
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all are something and they all havesomething to offer. Why I'm bringing this
up is and maybe I'll change mytune if something different happens. But I
actually interviewed for a job, talkedabout a second in review. She went
on vacation, didn't respond to myemail that I send to her last week,
and I'm thinking about like texting heror just emailing her now. Because
they reposted the job on Sunday.Oh so it's not film and it's been
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thirty days, so that could bewhy they reposted it. But also it's
like, what are you waiting for? You're looking for someone that either doesn't
exist or be They're like, you'renot really hiring for it, right,
You're wasting your time by reposting itbecause you actually have gotten applicants, right
that are good? Is there anyapplicant that's perfect. No, because that
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doesn't exist. That's like assaying thatdoesn't make any sense. Right, Am
I crazy about this? No?I agree with you a thousand percent.
I wish and I understand why theycan't do this because it would just it
would be a full time job initself. But I wish that there was
a way to get feedback, solike they didn't hire you or they didn't
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call you for that second interview,why so I can work on it next
time. Yeah, do you knowwhat I mean? Yeah, that's the
part. It's frustrating. It's veryfrustrating, but that's what the process is
is, because like a I justwant to find something, of course,
but also I don't want to justjump into something and have it be where
you get underpaid or underappreciate or whateverall the understr Yeah, holy fuck you
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hear that. It's like we're gonnabe quiet for a second. Is there
a pet smart upstairs that I didn'tknow about? No, I think it's
a zoo. If you could hearour dogs are not howling, which our
dogs have been next level recently becausethere's been an owl in our neighborhood.
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Oh, it's just them currazing,driving them insane. And there's another dog
across the street like that howls backat them. See, I don't think
it's that dog, because I've heardthat dog and they bark at it.
They're howling right now. What,Well, there are coyotes in the neighborhood,
So I think it's like when skulkingaround and the coyotes trying to get
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them to well, I think thatthey're I think that they're howling perhaps to
say this is my yard, keepaway. I don't know, that's the
narrative I go with. That's whatyou like, They're protecting our domain.
The lady that interviewed me the otherday absolutely caught me off guard in the
most unexpected way possible. And Ihad to, you know, just because
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I cry at anything right now.We're just at that point of life.
If you look at me wrong,I cry. I did a good job
of holding it back, but Iknew that it was. The tears were
right there on the brim. Sheasked me where do you see herself in
five years? And I thought aboutit for a second and I was like,
holy shit, we're going to havea kid in college. Oh yeah,
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And I instantly got like, myneck got hot, I got tears
formed, and I was like,you cannot cry in a phone interview.
You giant was Yeah, but itwas absolutely shocking because I had never thought
about it. Yeah, and thatway before, like we're just we're there.
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We're to that point where in fiveyears Olivia is going to be out
of the house. I thought aboutthat a little bit because I'm like,
she's not ready, Like, there'sno way that this is going to happen.
There's no fucking way she's gonna be. She's prepared for it. We
haven't done enough. We're in trouble. Oh my god, catch her up.
There are so many things that shedoes know, but there are so
many things that she doesn't know.Well, that's kind of my point is
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where I can't I can't conceptualize thatin five short years that that's where she'll
be and will be because she's stillso sweet and so young. She doesn't
even know what a condom is.No, she did sex head, didn't
she do the she did the video, she had to do the thing that
they sent it home. Okay,her and I were in the car,
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who cares when? And I don'tremember how the conversation got started. But
you know, something about babies,something about sex, something about periods.
I have no idea. And Isaid, oh, well, blah blah
blah the condom and she said,what's that. I hit the brakes and
I said, I thought you didthe sex said video in school and she's
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like, yeah, they didn't talkabout that. And I'm like, you're
going into high school next year.I wanted to just let me tell you
all about it to her. Shestopped me because I asked her first,
and I said, well, doyou want to know what it is?
Do you want me to explain?And she said no, very strictly and
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sternly. She said, no,ma'am. I know that I'm young and
sweet, and once you know thethings, you can't know them. So
I'm not ready to go there yet. And that's how she expressed it to
me, which I thought was veryprofound and sort of like, don't take
my sweetness away from me. Butalso I'm terrified that we're going to have
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to pull the band aid at somepoint because I don't want her to go
blindly into high school and into allof these events that are in our future,
because she's got to be prepared.She's got to know the things.
You know, Timmy's gonna say,hey, you want to see my condom,
and she's gonna say okay, becauseshe doesn't fucking knowziest conversation. Ever,
how I think that she'll find outabout like condom is that's the thing
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where people will like blow up acondom and then they'll be like heading it
around and it looks like a balloon. And she'd be like, Oh,
that's what I think. That's howsweety is. She would literally O God,
I'm actually also nervous. I hadher pump gas the other day because
I don't want her to be thekid that thinks that she needs to have
her blink or fluid filled. Whothinks that people what people? There's a
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radio person in this town. Hersister thought that the color of your seamen
relates directly to the color of yourskin. There's people of all different types
in the world. Well, Idon't think that our child is on that
level. But I see what yourpoint is. You get My point is
now on the topic of Olivia andgoing off to college eventually, which is
a long time away, but it'sfive years, man, it is.
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I mean the pandemic alone sucked upthree years. It did, and it
made me look at how fast itwent by. Five years is going to
be a flash as well. AndI just don't want to go into an
underprepared like these are the moments tobe aware and start laying the foundation.
But then she doesn't want to knowabout it. So then what do you
do? I mean, because weknow what happened for the Santa thing,
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I don't want to, Like Irespected her request to not know about it
now, right, but I don'tbut I don't want her, right.
I don't want her to just yes, get taken advantage of because she doesn't
know the things. That's how webecome grandparents. Oh my god, second
time today you may throw up happenin my mouth. There is a light
(31:52):
at the end of the tunnel whenit comes to the big thing that I've
been dealing with therapy recently is likethem moving out and then like having like
a relationship with them, which youknow, I want to have a relationship,
and I'm worried. I think moreprobably about like what our lives are
going to be like when it's justto us in the house and we've talked
about this before. There's a newsletterthat I read called midlife Madness, and
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I thought, what this person saysabout it is perfect. She talks about
like over the holidays, her kidscame home and brought with them their spouses,
children's and dogs. A few dayslater we added grandparents and uncles and
cousins to the mix. One day, our house was more crowded than Costco
on the day before Thanksgiving. Backin the day when her children moved out,
the idea of them moving out washorrifying. But now, because they've
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lived in a house where there's reallyjust two people most of the time,
our favorite coffee mugs began playing hideand seek with us. When these people
came over, the Wi Fi mysteriouslyfroze leftovers, and their refrigerator vanished overnight,
fresh flowers in the bathroom whittled,and toilet paper disappeared, leaving only
the cardboard tube. She's like,I love my family, I love my
children, but I wanted them out. My actual house was having anxiety with
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the idea of kids, my kidsbeing in the house. Oh no.
Then finally they all left and anin celebration, my husband and I sat
enjoying our morning coffee from our favoritecoffee cups and listening only to the sound
of our fireplace crackling and the windblowing outside in the distance. Do you
hear that? He said, what, I don't hear anything? I answered
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exactly, He said, it's wonderfullyquiet. Cheers, And as we cheered,
the phone rang, shattering the silence. It was our son. He
had a pipe person in his apartment, and his landlord said that he would
need to find a new place tolive in the next three months, and
he decided that he needed to movehome with us. We are heartbroken.
Oh no, I did not seeit going that direction. When you started
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talking about like, you know,the house was bustily and I'll you know,
like voices again, I thought thatthey were like, there was gonna
be a good thing. Well,it is in their mind, But think
about it, if we if tomorrow, if our families live closer, they
would be more in our house thanthey are. But if your mom and
dad came to visit, and mymom and dad came to visit, yeah,
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and then my sister was in andout of the house, yeah,
and our kids were older and alot we would be like, you guys
can go go, get a hotel, go somewhere else. Yeah, by
I understand it. So I wantto think of ed like, hey,
there is going to be a lightto the end of the tunnel. Our
daughter will be okay, she willlearn what a condom is. I can't
wait to have the conversation with Isaacabout a dental damn. Why, why,
(34:31):
why, why, I probably wantanymore. Who uses dental damns?
Is that a thing that's actually no, never ever, but that's in fifth
grade. That's what I thought thatyou did. I thought, if you're
gonna do clingus, is that hesaid earlier then that you use a dental
dam that tastes like a banana,And I thought, oh, I wish
there was grape, but I'm surethere is. Now you just glitched.
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You come trailed again. Wow,Hey, thanks for listening. It goes
both ways with Christy and Steve.Bye, We'll see you next time.
New Week New Show. It goesboth ways with Christie and Steve coming up.
Okay, I'm gonna stop you rightthere. We're not doing that bit
anymore. I'm stopping it right now. Oh we can go back to Stevens
Christie. No, no, notthat bit. We're sticking with the Christie
the New Week New Show. Ohsorry, you're you're more creative than that.
Well, this is the intro.So this is always like one of
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those things where I don't know whatto say because I'm teasing what's coming up
on the show. Well, allyou have to say, Steve, yes,
Christy is three words? Two words? What is the name vander Pump
rules? Okay? And the onething we thought our daughter knew that she
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does not that has us super worried. Chuck, if you have a teenage
daughter or son, just because thelast couple of years, you should check
in and make sure that they knowabout and during this episode, we do
have a segment where we hit abutton at insanity, not insanity. We
(01:26):
don't have an insane life. Wedon't have a Tom and Tom life.
We don't have which is obviously outof control. Let's just get let's just
get it right. The unit isexploding with VPR Who knew that cheating on
your spouse could lead to such drama? And did he cheat on his spouse
(01:49):
or did he leave his spouse andthen start sleeping with a friend? Oh
okay, say Hunter Biden. Itin other words, it's fucked up,
and I love it. You don'tunderstand that joke. I don't care.
So Hunter Biden, when his brotherdied, When his brother died, his
brothers, he starts sleeping with hisbrother's spouse. Isn't that that's kind of
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fucked Okay, that's not that's noteven left. I will not let you.
I absolutely refuse it, to letyou derail Tom and Tom talk this
hot fucking dish coming out of laI will not have it. Cliffs notes
a version back at the very beginningof Vanderpump rules, Who cares? How
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many years ago? Tom Sandoval inKristen were a couple? He kissed Arianna
in Vegas, so cheated on Kristin. Then Santoval in Ariana got together.
So they've been a couple like apower couple on the show for the last
bunch of years. Now, enterwho cares? How many years ago?
(03:00):
This girl Raquel. She was datingDJ James Kennedy. They got and is
that the British guy? Yeah,I sued they Okay, they got engaged
a couple of years ago. Sandovalpaid for their engagement party at Coachella,
like arranged all of this big hubbubfor it. Then a year later,
(03:22):
Braquell calls off the engagement. JamesKennedy. Now we're back, We're almost
to the present point. So nowthere's a new season that's airing right now,
like as we speak. Since shebroke off her engagement with James,
she's just been you know, likeslutsar us, like whatever whatever. Daly
in about Town. Good on herright, because she was with like this
(03:45):
crazy drunk for five years. Nowshe's crossed the line and she's starting to
dabble with her co stars who arealso spouses of her friends, her close
friends for all of these years.I don't know what to believe, just
like any other Bravo Hollick, youdon't know what to believe. The editors
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of the show or however the storylineplayed out, sort of led you into,
you know, the direction of TomSchwartz, and so I was like,
oh, how could she to Katielike shock and awe. Well,
now that this news is Schwartz wasa decoy. It was never about Rachel
and Schwartz. It was about Raquelin Tom Sandoval, Arianna's boyfriend in life,
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partner whatever. They're not married,that he's been with her for over
a year and they've had this secretthing where they actually have spent holidays together.
Tom was allegedly fiddling around with Raquelwhile Ariana was in the other room
sleeping at their house. She hadinvited Raquel to stay over. They have
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secret love jewelry. So like allthe Bravo fans are now looking back at
old photos and she's got a necklacewith a lightning bolt and he's got a
necklace with a lightning bolts. Andthere's even photos of them going on dates
in disguises like out swear to God, like he's got a fake mustache and
she's got like wigs on and such. They evidently used Tom Schwartz as a
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decoy fuck Katie's feelings. There areeven rumors that he brought Raquel home for
Christmas. Well, Ariana was withher family in Florida after her grandmother died.
All of this was while Raquel andArianna were supposedly growing closer, making
Tom's choice to cheat, specifically withRaquel, all the more crueler. And
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by the way, came out thather name isn't Raquel, it's actually Rachel.
Oh because that was the one wheresomeone went to high school with her.
Yeah, and they found her inthe yearbook and it's Rachel Levis instead
of Raquel. Okay, So soshe being made out to be the bad
guy, the home wrecker or thesand Tom whatever that guy's name is.
Yeah, so they are dubbing itthe scandival after Tom Sandivalum. He is
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absolutely the bad guy in this scenariobecause he's a pig. He's a predator
for sure. He a predator.He can't keep it in his pants.
But they go. They have butthey ay where the wind blows. They
have love jewelry, So that meansthat there's something special be shooting them.
All I know is that Lisa Vanderpumpis going to be on Watch What Happens
Live tomorrow night, and I can'twait because you just want to She's going
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to have all the tea. Theystarted filming again like they were done filming
because it's airing right now. AndyCohen got worried of all of this stink
and he sent film crews racing rightback. Wait, so is it the
TV show that revealed this, becausethat was the whole because this whole thing
started from me at least on Friday, hearing about so allegedly it's been going
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on, and so that's what's goingto kind of make it strange to watch
the show, because it was it'sbeen going on for a year. They
were taping the show, so theywere hiding all of this while filming.
Allegedly, it just got revealed toAriana recently. So but she like last
Wednesday, So how did she findout that part? I'm still a little
(07:15):
sketchy on. All I know isthat last week, Raquel and Shena,
Shena's another cast Meete. She wason Watch What Happens Live and Raquel made
a couple of slips, and sothat's where I think everyone started and going
back and like rewatching things and relokingat things, and I think it got
spilled that way. It was likezac Alfanakis putting all the strings together,
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doing the calculations and figuring it out. I don't know that reference. Okay,
what are your opinion not the facts. What do you think? Well,
I think that they've been I mean, number one, they've all cheated,
period because if you yeah, becauseif you stop and think about it,
that's how Tom and Ariana got togetherin the first place, was that
he cheated on Kristen with her.So you know, every what's the old
(08:03):
cliche, it ends like it itends like it starts. Were they going
to be happily ever after? Whoknows, but they seemed to be a
good fit on the show. Um, he's always been a douche canoe.
I feel bad for her, honestly, for Ariana. What if this is
just a smear campaign. Maybe she'sbeen shooting the entire time with Jack's Oh
god, he's not on the showanymore. That's just the only name that
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I recognize from No good on you. I'm I'm actually impressed that you even
pulled out This whole conversation reminds meof something that we talked about the other
day, which is you have alwayssaid, like what your number was,
And I've always said, like whatmy number was? You know, from
the day that we met, right, my number was. I'll probably say
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I said, I said it wasprobably like seven to ten, and you
always said it was what I thinkI told you four, that's what I
told I know for a fact,that's that has to be. That's my
go to number. That's your number. Then more than four less than one
hundred, well more than four lessthan one hundred, more than four less
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than twenty five, dude, probably, But isn't that always the case though,
if you're just getting to know someone. I mean, I'm not that
confident of a person to just wavemy freak flag and just like scream,
I had a hostage, like Ihad my dad left too soon and I
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had daddy issues, like I wasn'tgoing to enter, you know, our
relationship like that. So four isa modest number because it makes it sound
like you're not fresh off the farm. You kind of know what you're doing,
but you're also not I don't thinkyou said four. I think you
should you said no, four wasmy go to a number, really,
one thousand percent, because I thinkat that time I would have thought,
like that's where I told everybody,she's a virgin almost because if you were
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four, Yeah, the old storywas like if the person, if a
guy said a number, then youalways subtracted where if you're if a girl
said a number, you always addedto exactly they were lying now because it's
oh, why though, why though, Let's like jump here for a second,
just because it's okay for a guyto be a stud and it's not
okay for a girl to be awhore, which I don't know if that's
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as true as it used to be. Yeah, but you know we're not
in that world anymore. We don'tget to explore that world unfortunately. Yeah,
do you Okay, let's say,like tomorrow, I got hit by
a car. Did not even hearwhat I said? That's cool? What'd
you say exactly? Because you don'tlisten. Do listen? No, you'll
whispered. You'll listen. I didnot. You'll listen to it in post
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production and then you'll be like,what the fuck and I missed it?
Yep? Keep going. So Iget hit by a car tomorrow, you
have to get on hinge. I'venever heard of it, and I think
it's called hinged, but doesn't matter. Um, Like when it comes to
like like hooking up, what doyou think you would do it? Or
do you think it like you'd beclosed for business? You got old.
I can't imagine. I can't imagine, like I'm I think we've already established
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it. I'm not feeling super hotabout myself right now, so I can't
even imagine having to like flirt withsomeone and all of the exhaustion and all
of the not games, but justthe rhetoric involved, well, because the
rhetoric absolutely makes me want to glazeover the difference with the rhetoric now,
like as you get older, asit like the person back when you started
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dating, I remember that everybody wasbroke, that everybody like didn't really have
success or some people had kind ofsuccess, but it was fake success.
What would you what would be yourbiggest concern with dating someone in your forties?
Honestly, as a female, Iwould probably I would probably want to
date someone my age right like dateup. You could probably get a dummy
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though down there just to stella gota groove back, right, not worthy
of a stud right now, Butanyway, I would probably date up as
far as like age older, Iprobably would. But here but here's the
thing, why are they able forme to date? Like? What's wrong
with you? What kind of baggagedo you have? Yeah? That is
what you don't have to worry aboutwhen you're in your twenties and thirties.
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The baggage, for the most partis the baggage. Good point. Now
that you're in our bracket, I'mlike, oh shit, dude, if
i'm dating up, I'm dating someonein their fifties, which is freaking wild
to me. And yeah, whatkind of ten lives have you had before
me? I don't know that soundslike too much. That's like suddenly you
find out that they have like threedifferent kids with three different moms, So
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then you'd automatically be like but thenyou would also like, Okay, this
guy that's like a you know,fifty handsome silver fox, looks good,
looks like you know, Richard Gearbecause that's what you're into. Probably wow,
and just really fresh reference right there, buddy, you're current with the
time, supercurrent. Okay, helooks like Patrick Dempsey. I think for
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you, he'd have to be atleast a seven. Um, he would
have to be taller than you.He would have to be a good listener.
Okay, who's not taller than me? Good point, I think it.
Well, that's my point, soopens it up. And then he's
got to have one heck of ahog on him. Oh I'm a tiny
lady though, so that's not reallya big deal. So what kind of
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guy do you want? Honestly,someone that makes me laugh and it's good
in bed cone lingus. That's thehardest part about our relationship is that I'm
not very good at cone lingus.Okay, can we stop? I said
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it one time. It's a jokeand I whispered it. You don't need
to call attention to it. Sothere was a time in our lives where
we had to drive from Rochester,New York, all the way to Minnesota.
That's like twelve hundred miles. Idon't think that's true, but it's
a lot of mine. It's along eighteen hour trek across this great nation
of ours, through Ohio, throughIndiana, through Illinois, through Wisconsin,
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through Pennsylvania. Just make sure everyoneelse I know my states. And in
that process we realized something that wehad to have directions, and we just
realized today that we don't know howwe did it, like, we're not
sure how we actually had And Ihonestly think map quest that was the name
of the website that I've been thinkingabout for hours and hours. It just
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popping into my head. I waslooking up all these different names, like
how did we actually do a mapquest? I think it was how we
lived our lives before we got cellphones that had maps on it. But
how did we get map quest?We look, we're on the internet,
and we typed in the end locationthat we were going too. We drove
from Rochester, New York to theMarriott and Saint Louis Park, Minnesota.
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And I think that we just hadmap quest for our route. Okay,
so the whole conversation did it outright? The whole conversation got started because
I was talking to you about whenI would go down to the city,
all like to Manhattan to stay withmy step sister, And how did I
get there? Because it was beforecell phones, indefinitely before any kind of
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you know, map app to helpyou. So you think, and I
have no memory, so I canremember driving by myself, But how did
I find her house? Yeah?Like how did I get there? You
could get to the city easily,could you just follow the signs to New
York City or whatever it is?Yeah? But how do we do things
before? I haven't seen the lastof us on HBO. Everyone said,
it's an amazing show, but thatis the only thing that gives me anxiety.
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I guess there's lots of things thatcould be anxiety. When we take
that back. One of the thingsthat if the anxiety breaks me out,
it's like, what it happens ifthere really is a like a some kind
of a weird event that happens wherewe lose all our cell phones, we
lose access to the internet, likesomeone clips the line. Because there is
a line, we wouldn't know howto do anything anymore, and nothing,
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like it's bad enough that I haveto use a calculator to do like two
plus two, but seriously, Iwouldn't know how to do anything without no
planes would come down from the sky. They would be falling, that people
would be lost. I wouldn't knowspit backward, like because like our kids
want to like Isaac, he wantto play an open gym. He went
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with his kid Garrett, right,and you asked on the way out,
like, oh, does Garrett havea phone? Right? Who cares with
garrets a phone? Like does heknow our phone number? Which I knew
that it would be fine to workout, but like I think Isaac knows
your phone number and my phone numbermemorize he doesn't have his own phone yet.
But it's the same thing where anyoneoutside of you and me, I
don't know anyone else's phone number.So like if my phone did like a
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huge dump and I lost phone mbers, I'd be screwed. Yeah, I'd
be screwed on how to get placesbecause I've lived here. We've lived here
for nearly twenty years, and whichis wild? Which is wild? We
live in the northwest part of town. If you asked me to go anywhere
on the southeast part of town,you couldn't do it, and even a
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lot of I couldn't do it.I think we get an app without We'll
get an app, Like you're like, hey, we're gonna go meet at
the at the pump and go inApple Valley. Good luck me finding it
without an app to at me specifically. So that's my point is I just
didn't have a recollection. It waslike that part left my brain of how
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did I function as a human beforea cell phone and before a helping app?
Like I traveled all the time,and a lot of it was by
myself. We become solve how didI survive? I don't know. I
couldn't be that person now if Iwant to do. Because the other day
you went outside and you took picturesof juven and Saturn or Saturn and Venus.
We can't decide. It was Yeah, two stars were actually two planets
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in the style. And I saidto Olivia, my ace, you can
see the north Star and she's likecool. I'm like, dude, that's
how you get places. Oh,my north Star. That's how we freed
the slaves. Okay, that's howChris Columbus got across. That's how Magellan
was able to figure it out becausethey had the stars up there. That's
how it. Half of the ancientcivilization. They would look up at the
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sky and be like, oh,there's O'Ryan's belt and there's the north Star.
That's how you got places. That'show I know in my life the
sun, for example, I knowwhich way is west because that's where the
sun's gonna set every day. Doyou think our kids, No, we're
and that's the real But you knowwhat they will know, Steve what common
(18:27):
cornmath. So we're taping on aTaco Tuesday. Taco Tuesday, So it's
officially been a week without two cellphones. How are you feeling. Oh
man, that's the craziest part.Yeah, because for work I had two
phones and it has felt strange.I've had a lot of ghost vibrates.
(18:52):
I've reached for a second cell phonemultiple times. Oh what does that mean?
Uh, And it's it's definitely astrange thing, but I think it's
truthfully the way to go. Onecell phone is the way to go.
You seem more interested in what's happeningaround you now because you're not ping ponging
(19:14):
from left to right two phones,two phones, like looking at your hand
like a dual screen. Yeah,it's also bad. It was getting out
of control. It was bad formy neck. Yeah, you're getting a
haunch. It was bad for me. Yeah. But the Hey, but
so far, like the whole likejob hunting process has gone knock on wood
relatively well, like I've actually hadconversations with people. But there are still
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are things that drive me insane aboutthe whole job interview process. Between the
idea of the ghosting that companies do. Oh yeah, the number of times
that you sign out a resume andyou don't get a reply that they even
received the resume. That's the leastof my concern. You know, I
talked on the podcast last week.I believe that I said that I emailed
the CMO of a company, thechief marketing officer of a company, and
(20:00):
got a response, even though Icouldn't get a response from the HR director.
Right. But there's another company justnow. Recently I interviewed with them
and they said they really liked meand they really want to go to the
next stage. And now they've justghosted. Oh my god. That's the
kind of thing where I think Ihave the lady's cell phone bur and I
could call her, but I don'twant to. But it's like, see,
but what's etiquette? Though, like, I have no idea. I
don't think there is a single truthwhen it comes to etiquette. Since we're
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both in the job interview stage oflife, I've come across some interesting questions
like that I've gotten from possible employers. Most recent one, she asked me,
I'm going to give you three wordsnow top of mind. Pick one
and describe why that represents you.Okay, so I'm going to give it
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to you ready, phone, textor email? Oh? Text? Why
next? Is always going to bemy best favorite way to communicate back?
And forth with people either from workare for personal life. Why because it's
quick and I know that they're gettingit to their phone to the person.
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I know the emails. People doget emails to their phone, but I
feel like, wow, the longestanswer ever. They don't respond as well
to those unless they're sitting at acomputer. But that's just how my brain
works. Phone. That's probably thesmartest way to do it. But I
also don't think that people don't pickup the phone anymore. I don't pick
up the phone if I don't haveto. Okay, I think that you're
missing the point of this hub.You've absolutely gone to the dock side.
(21:30):
I just wanted to know, likewhich one represented you. It's a psychological
whatever, okay, And so thenyou say text and then the why of
it, and then that shows themwhat type of person you are, what's
important to you, a little bitof how your brain works. You like
things quick, you like things instantgratification, like you can get like deep
(21:51):
with it. My answer was phonebecause I like that connection. Yeah,
I like to hear the voice onthe other end. I like to hear
the tone, inflection, all ofthat. I think it's more personal Texting
is very impersonal, so is email. It's creating the disconnect between people.
So but it's black and white.That's the thing that you like though,
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you're the person, Oh my god, you just jumped and I just realize
that you jumped out of your chair. I think that you like for conversation
purposes, for like for friends.I'm pointing because I have a point,
and when you're a point, youvigorously point to the person or up into
the air, which I could do. Instead, you're the person you like
receipts, I do. That isyour line djure And if you have a
(22:33):
phone conversation, there can I likereceipts what I'm dealing with gas lighters.
But that's you know, we've alreadycovered that so many times. Like at
the end of the day, ifI have to deal with people, I
want to see you, I wantto hear you. Yeah, that's when
you're at like on a friendship level, but on a work level, I
would Actually I haven't had that typeof job though, Like any of my
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jobs are kind of like service industrytree, where like I'm the face of
whatever product right whether why are you? Why is that funny? I don't
know? Because I'm the face ofany products. Oh okay, we're joking
about my drinking again. That's shocking. Every episode. Next episode, Christie
(23:19):
goes to Betty Ford. So ifyou get to the point where you actually
do an interview, or even better, you go into the business to meet
with you know person, that's great. But I did see something on LinkedIn
that I thought was so true,And it's from a recruiter and it's to
all employers, all right, AndI think that this is something that we
(23:41):
can all stop and listen to,and it's very true. Dear employers,
stop holding out. Too many good, qualified, solid candidates still out of
work while companies are holding out forthe perfect fit. Jobs posted and reposted
for months, sometimes years because theright peron hasn't come along despite hundreds of
(24:02):
applications and interviews. I used tosuggest certain job boards to our resume clients,
but in the past few years Irecommend using LinkedIn only as well as
network introductions your rs. And there'sthe result. Average job search time has
dropped from six months to two.Why it's hard to discount someone's passion,
personality and story. When you actuallyspeak to them, it's a lot easier
(24:26):
to ignore a person when they arejust a number or a group of keywords
and an ats, which I'm guessingis like a hiring thing. Okay,
okay. Three weeks ago we madean introduction between a client of ours and
a connection here on LinkedIn, wherehe's already in his third and final interview.
Let's get real again, human again. People aren't keywords, and they
(24:48):
all are something and they all havesomething to offer. Why I'm bringing this
up is and maybe I'll change mytune if something different happens. But I
actually interviewed for a job, talkedabout a second in review. She went
on vacation, didn't respond to myemail that I send to her last week,
and I'm thinking about like texting heror just emailing her now. Because
they reposted the job on Sunday.Oh so it's not film and it's been
(25:11):
thirty days, so that could bewhy they reposted it. But also it's
like, what are you waiting for? You're looking for someone that either doesn't
exist or be They're like, you'renot really hiring for it, right,
You're wasting your time by reposting itbecause you actually have gotten applicants, right
that are good? Is there anyapplicant that's perfect. No, because that
(25:32):
doesn't exist. That's like assaying thatdoesn't make any sense. Right, Am
I crazy about this? No?I agree with you a thousand percent.
I wish and I understand why theycan't do this because it would just it
would be a full time job initself. But I wish that there was
a way to get feedback, solike they didn't hire you or they didn't
(25:53):
call you for that second interview,why so I can work on it next
time. Yeah, do you knowwhat I mean? Yeah, that's the
part. It's frustrating. It's veryfrustrating, but that's what the process is
is, because like a I justwant to find something, of course,
but also I don't want to justjump into something and have it be where
you get underpaid or underappreciate or whateverall the understr Yeah, holy fuck you
(26:18):
hear that. It's like we're gonnabe quiet for a second. Is there
a pet smart upstairs that I didn'tknow about? No, I think it's
a zoo. If you could hearour dogs are not howling, which our
dogs have been next level recently becausethere's been an owl in our neighborhood.
(26:41):
Oh, it's just them currazing,driving them insane. And there's another dog
across the street like that howls backat them. See, I don't think
it's that dog, because I've heardthat dog and they bark at it.
They're howling right now. What,Well, there are coyotes in the neighborhood,
So I think it's like when skulkingaround and the coyotes trying to get
(27:02):
them to well, I think thatthey're I think that they're howling perhaps to
say this is my yard, keepaway. I don't know, that's the
narrative I go with. That's whatyou like, They're protecting our domain.
The lady that interviewed me the otherday absolutely caught me off guard in the
most unexpected way possible. And Ihad to, you know, just because
(27:23):
I cry at anything right now.We're just at that point of life.
If you look at me wrong,I cry. I did a good job
of holding it back, but Iknew that it was. The tears were
right there on the brim. Sheasked me where do you see herself in
five years? And I thought aboutit for a second and I was like,
holy shit, we're going to havea kid in college. Oh yeah,
(27:47):
And I instantly got like, myneck got hot, I got tears
formed, and I was like,you cannot cry in a phone interview.
You giant was Yeah, but itwas absolutely shocking because I had never thought
about it. Yeah, and thatway before, like we're just we're there.
(28:07):
We're to that point where in fiveyears Olivia is going to be out
of the house. I thought aboutthat a little bit because I'm like,
she's not ready, Like, there'sno way that this is going to happen.
There's no fucking way she's gonna be. She's prepared for it. We
haven't done enough. We're in trouble. Oh my god, catch her up.
There are so many things that shedoes know, but there are so
many things that she doesn't know.Well, that's kind of my point is
(28:32):
where I can't I can't conceptualize thatin five short years that that's where she'll
be and will be because she's stillso sweet and so young. She doesn't
even know what a condom is.No, she did sex head, didn't
she do the she did the video, she had to do the thing that
they sent it home. Okay,her and I were in the car,
(28:52):
who cares when? And I don'tremember how the conversation got started. But
you know, something about babies,something about sex, something about periods.
I have no idea. And Isaid, oh, well, blah blah
blah the condom and she said,what's that. I hit the brakes and
I said, I thought you didthe sex said video in school and she's
(29:14):
like, yeah, they didn't talkabout that. And I'm like, you're
going into high school next year.I wanted to just let me tell you
all about it to her. Shestopped me because I asked her first,
and I said, well, doyou want to know what it is?
Do you want me to explain?And she said no, very strictly and
(29:37):
sternly. She said, no,ma'am. I know that I'm young and
sweet, and once you know thethings, you can't know them. So
I'm not ready to go there yet. And that's how she expressed it to
me, which I thought was veryprofound and sort of like, don't take
my sweetness away from me. Butalso I'm terrified that we're going to have
(30:00):
to pull the band aid at somepoint because I don't want her to go
blindly into high school and into allof these events that are in our future,
because she's got to be prepared.She's got to know the things.
You know, Timmy's gonna say,hey, you want to see my condom,
and she's gonna say okay, becauseshe doesn't fucking knowziest conversation. Ever,
how I think that she'll find outabout like condom is that's the thing
(30:22):
where people will like blow up acondom and then they'll be like heading it
around and it looks like a balloon. And she'd be like, Oh,
that's what I think. That's howsweety is. She would literally O God,
I'm actually also nervous. I hadher pump gas the other day because
I don't want her to be thekid that thinks that she needs to have
her blink or fluid filled. Whothinks that people what people? There's a
(30:44):
radio person in this town. Hersister thought that the color of your seamen
relates directly to the color of yourskin. There's people of all different types
in the world. Well, Idon't think that our child is on that
level. But I see what yourpoint is. You get My point is
now on the topic of Olivia andgoing off to college eventually, which is
a long time away, but it'sfive years, man, it is.
(31:07):
I mean the pandemic alone sucked upthree years. It did, and it
made me look at how fast itwent by. Five years is going to
be a flash as well. AndI just don't want to go into an
underprepared like these are the moments tobe aware and start laying the foundation.
But then she doesn't want to knowabout it. So then what do you
do? I mean, because weknow what happened for the Santa thing,
(31:30):
I don't want to, Like Irespected her request to not know about it
now, right, but I don'tbut I don't want her, right.
I don't want her to just yes, get taken advantage of because she doesn't
know the things. That's how webecome grandparents. Oh my god, second
time today you may throw up happenin my mouth. There is a light
(31:52):
at the end of the tunnel whenit comes to the big thing that I've
been dealing with therapy recently is likethem moving out and then like having like
a relationship with them, which youknow, I want to have a relationship,
and I'm worried. I think moreprobably about like what our lives are
going to be like when it's justto us in the house and we've talked
about this before. There's a newsletterthat I read called midlife Madness, and
(32:14):
I thought, what this person saysabout it is perfect. She talks about
like over the holidays, her kidscame home and brought with them their spouses,
children's and dogs. A few dayslater we added grandparents and uncles and
cousins to the mix. One day, our house was more crowded than Costco
on the day before Thanksgiving. Backin the day when her children moved out,
the idea of them moving out washorrifying. But now, because they've
(32:35):
lived in a house where there's reallyjust two people most of the time,
our favorite coffee mugs began playing hideand seek with us. When these people
came over, the Wi Fi mysteriouslyfroze leftovers, and their refrigerator vanished overnight,
fresh flowers in the bathroom whittled,and toilet paper disappeared, leaving only
the cardboard tube. She's like,I love my family, I love my
children, but I wanted them out. My actual house was having anxiety with
(32:59):
the idea of kids, my kidsbeing in the house. Oh no.
Then finally they all left and anin celebration, my husband and I sat
enjoying our morning coffee from our favoritecoffee cups and listening only to the sound
of our fireplace crackling and the windblowing outside in the distance. Do you
hear that? He said, what, I don't hear anything? I answered
(33:20):
exactly, He said, it's wonderfullyquiet. Cheers, And as we cheered,
the phone rang, shattering the silence. It was our son. He
had a pipe person in his apartment, and his landlord said that he would
need to find a new place tolive in the next three months, and
he decided that he needed to movehome with us. We are heartbroken.
Oh no, I did not seeit going that direction. When you started
(33:42):
talking about like, you know,the house was bustily and I'll you know,
like voices again, I thought thatthey were like, there was gonna
be a good thing. Well,it is in their mind, But think
about it, if we if tomorrow, if our families live closer, they
would be more in our house thanthey are. But if your mom and
dad came to visit, and mymom and dad came to visit, yeah,
(34:04):
and then my sister was in andout of the house, yeah,
and our kids were older and alot we would be like, you guys
can go go, get a hotel, go somewhere else. Yeah, by
I understand it. So I wantto think of ed like, hey,
there is going to be a lightto the end of the tunnel. Our
daughter will be okay, she willlearn what a condom is. I can't
wait to have the conversation with Isaacabout a dental damn. Why, why,
(34:31):
why, why, I probably wantanymore. Who uses dental damns?
Is that a thing that's actually no, never ever, but that's in fifth
grade. That's what I thought thatyou did. I thought, if you're
gonna do clingus, is that hesaid earlier then that you use a dental
dam that tastes like a banana,And I thought, oh, I wish
there was grape, but I'm surethere is. Now you just glitched.
(34:54):
You come trailed again. Wow,Hey, thanks for listening. It goes
both ways with Christy and Steve.Bye, We'll see you next time.
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