May 12, 2023 • 33 mins
In this episode, we dive deep into the phenomenon of "Karenism" and how even Steve is not immune to it. We discuss the psychology behind wanting to speak to the manager and the potential consequences of taking it too far.
We also explore the dangers of secretly recording your partner and why it's never a good idea. We examine the ethical implications of violating someone's privacy and the potential legal repercussions.
Finally, a hypothetical question: if you were to commit murder, how would you do it? This may seem like a morbid topic, but it allows us to explore our own moral compasses and the line between fantasy and reality.
We also explore the dangers of secretly recording your partner and why it's never a good idea. We examine the ethical implications of violating someone's privacy and the potential legal repercussions.
Finally, a hypothetical question: if you were to commit murder, how would you do it? This may seem like a morbid topic, but it allows us to explore our own moral compasses and the line between fantasy and reality.
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(00:01):
Hey, welcome the show, brandnew episode. Make sure you stick around
at the very end because it getsreally dark, really quick. I don't
know. I'm still processing what happened. You just unplugged the microphone. You
unplugged the microphone. She just actuallyliterally she was so worked up. She
scared. I am bron be scared, but maybe you should be scared.
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Just you know you are alert.You're aware, not alert sky aware,
your sky aware. Good to know. Also, we talk about something that
like a good way for you towork through issues in a relationship that we
actually then find out is highly illegal, So it's gonna be good for you
to learn about that. And abunch more and why Chrissie says, I'm
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a Karen all coming up on.It goes both ways with Christie and Steve
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beat Hey, welcome, the showgoes both ways with Christy and Steve.
What are you looking at? Youlooking at your phone? What are you
looking at? What do you got? Your mouth is wide open right now.
Now. I want to know whatthe tea spell it spill it in
real time. I want to getI want my honest eagle doing the breaststroke
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across his body of water and thenhe gets to a log and lifts out
the biggest effing fish I've ever seen. Watch thus watch him doing the breaststroke.
Oh my god, that's not thebreastroke, that's the butterfly. Okay,
same difference, swim Okay, he'sswimming. Yep, he's definitely doing
the butterfly. He looks like MichaelPhelps, like he's third time time gold
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winner. Yeah, Americans. Hegets to the shore. Huh and watch
watch how big this? Oh god, this is so really this is really
captivating to listen to. Oh that'swhy the best it's now he's on the
shore and he's got Oh my god, that is a giant like it's at
least the size of him. Yeah, whatever, it is. Holy shit,
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I didn't know birds could do that. There you go. Well,
I love My favorite um Reddit isnature is Metal because anytime you because we
all watch enough Lion King and different, like you know cartoons where you see
animals like humanized animals, and thenyou'd see him do an animal shit in
the wilderness like eating other animals assholefirst, and then you're like, oh,
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they would never do that. UmSo, anyway, welcome to Show
New Week. We just got backfrom a walk. It is cloudy today.
It was beautiful and sunny, soI spent a lot of time outside
and I got lots of injuries.Do you no injury season? For Steve?
It is? Do you know whatI learned on our walk? Seed?
What did you learn? Fat Christie? Hate summer? I have always
loved summer. That's where I thrive. That is my go to season.
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I love everything hot and sweaty andwhatever, up until I realized that I
actually do sweat. So now I'vegot folds and rolls and things that rub
together that never have and that collectthe perspiration and it's there's chafing happening.
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And I've never here to do withthat before. And I was like,
oh, yeah, maybe I didn't. I don't actually like summer. It
was because I was so tiny andI was so cold all the time.
Yeah, you were always complaining.Now that I actually know the sensation of
sweating, then I really I'm awinter girl. I mean, right now
I'm sweating. We came downstairs toour basement, which is always cold in
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the wintertime. In the summertime,it's freezing, but I still have a
puddle of sweat on my chest rightnow from our walk where you called me
a Karen during our walk today,and I don't know what to do.
I'm sorry because I don't think it'sKaren activity. And it's because I have
recently, you know, still beeninterviewing for jobs. I had an interview
for a job last week where theguy said, get back to me by
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later on this week, by Wednesday, and let me know, just remind
me to follow up with you,and right, great, Sure, So
a couple days went by, Ifollowed up with him. Nothing, no
response. So day goes by,second day. Now it's Friday, so
it's been five days since he saidthis, So ghost didn't Yeah, he's
ghost to me. So I textedhim because he had called me from a
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cell phone. No reply to mytext. So I'm at this point a
moment, you're just like that whinydate. No, this is called common
courtesy of people. Okay, youcan just say got your thing, that's
it. You don't have to actuallylike get into it. So then I
wait and I wait, and now, like this past Monday, I sent
another email saying, hey, ohmy god, Steve, but you can
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at least just say hey, Igot it. I understand that I understand
that that's like the proper etiquette thingto do, but I also understand the
concept of he's just not that intoyou and you need to take the hint,
like you're absolutely blowing him up andjust beating that like needy female right
now, like notice me, noticeme, love me? Well yeah,
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I mean, but then at thesame time, then if you're not fought,
don't you think I understand there's persistence. So here's the fun fact.
I'm gonna flip the table on you. If a female did what you're doing
right now, then she's a needybitch. If what you're doing it as
a guy, it's like you're beingproactive, you're being persistent, you're going
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after what you want. But thesame end result he's still leaving you on
red. Well if but if it'sBut it's different though, because this is
for a job. This isn't thisis not a relationship. But it's still
the same results, Like you youwant the thing and he's not giving it
to you. There was this it'shuman resources. It's an Instagram handle where
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basically the person says we need toend the top the toxic workplace environment where
it's instant gratification was what the personsaid. Okay, they said, UM,
like, I haven't responded to youremail in the last seventy two hours
because I need twenty four hours tolike read it and then like twenty like
whatever. I shouldn't have to likerace through this whole thing. Well,
right, fuck you, here's mything. Fuck you. And unless you're
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that person that needs to reply tofive hundred people, they all want instant
gratification. They all want that replythe minute that they send it. I
understand that you need time to thinkbecause you want to give a proper answer
correct, and you might not beable to give a proper answer in that
moment or you have other ship todo, right, But if I sent
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you an email on Monday, youcan at least say, got it,
get back to you soon. Iget those emails. I'm fine with that
all day. But the idea thatit's like it's someone that you work with
or someone that you have like aclose connection with, or you're supposed to
be working on a project. NowI have to wait seventy two hours for
you just to fucking give me aresponse. Wow, how do I know?
Very passionate? How do I knowthat like what why are you leaving
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me on on read? Because thenbecause there's a fine line, because we
also know people that just fucking blowshit off, right and they live well,
Because then then you on your endare wondering second guessing did they get
it, did they get it intheir pisted, did they get it in
or whatever? Yeah, like you'rejust you're left with your own deep dark
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thoughts. And so I think perhapsthis should be a gold standard policy where
you just have like a little likean auto reply. So look, if
you work in an environment that can'tdo that instant gratification, personalized email for
every freaking thing, then have anauto response and it just says, got
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your thing, get right back toyou. Yep. It's like the how
the cell phone says like I'm drivingright now, call you back, and
it's just like an automated thing.Like more people, would that make you
feel better if you got that done, that would actually make I think that
would help. I think that's theeasiest solution for so many people because that's
the same thing, Like it's thesame, but yeah, it is the
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same thing with with a text message. If you text someone and you see
that they read it, and thenthey don't answer, and then they don't
answer. It makes my blood boil. You used to do that to me.
It's your it's your past life job. That's bullshit. That's okay,
because that's the other thing about itis because I would let my phone it
has notifications on, right, sowhen you would text me, the notification
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thing would pop up, right.But that but that's okay. Here's but
I would always see the dot dotdot like you're writing something and I wasn't
because at by the kind of personthat thinks when I'm writing. Oh,
I mean, but honestly, we'vebeen together long enough to that you know
that it's like if I'm going torespond, I'm gonna respond right away,
or I don't see it or somethingelse is going on. That goes to
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my next thing, What are yourthoughts on people that put you on silence?
What does that mean? So they'relike when you're on your phone and
you're texting somebody and then it likeare you silent or have you been silenced?
No, it's to quote Oprah andMegan Markle interview, Dude, I'm
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not even gonna get to that fuckinglike you know how like on your phone
you what people put you on donot Disturb. I don't even know how
to use that feature. How doyou, like, can you tell who's
do not disturbed you? Yeah,because when you're having the conversation it says
do not disturb. Now it canjust mean it's like, hey, I
don't want my phone going off.You know, I'm gonna it's supposed to
be for like if you're going tobed, then you don't get those of
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like notifications have been silenced. Yeah, okay, because the only thing worse,
and I think you've done this actuallyalso that we've weeded out people that
are Android people. You can't getdown with the droid. Out of all
the things that make me who II am, the one that infuriates me
the most that isn't offensive, theonly one I can actually admit on the
podcast is yeah, people that haveandroids. Because there's plenty of you have
like antic hatred for Android users.I don't have an emphatic hatred. I
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think I have an annoyance for Androidbecause I well, I think because Android
people, at least online, theythink that they're superior. Because and I
have to admit this part is thata lot of times Android phones are usually
more advanced. Then they have abetter camera. I think like they do
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it first and then iPhone picks itup. Oh is that how it goes?
I think that's what they say,but I would have thought the opposite.
I know that's that's what they wantyou to to think. That's what
they want you to think. Butas as we are aging, I'm realizing,
like, oh, this is howit happens, this is how it
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begins. Is that I'm starting toaddp my toe into like I don't like
it that lie, I don't likethis. And now I'm old enough where
I can decide that I don't likesomething like it's when you're a kid,
you're you're leaning into your stodgy oldman. Well, because I've decided that
when you're young, there's things thatyou don't like, and you make it
pretty clear to your parents. Idon't like the food. I don't like
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peas. Yeah, I don't likebecause you you're pushing back against your parent
or against whatever. Right then,when you're a little bit older, you
know everything. You're in your twenties, who are you pushing back against?
Now? As a year old dude, Christie said the name Charlie Day yesterday.
And I've seen it everywhere. I'veseen it on a podcast, I've
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seen it on Tonight Show. He'sbeen on all these TV shows, on
YouTube, all these kind of things. And yesterday you said, who's Charlie
Day? And I said, thankfucking God? Do you want me to
be honest about who I thought hewas? Sure? If I was to
guess, I thought he was arapper. It's a rapper. Charlie Days
are, Yeah, a major Leaguebaseball player from the eighties. Maybe that's
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another good one. That's another verygood anyway, So who is he?
Steve? Because I looked it upfor you just he's on Always Sunny in
Philadelphia. So he's the co creatorof Always Sunny with Rob McNerney, who
is owner of the Wrexham Football League. But there's another one. I don't
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even know her name. Olivia waswatching What's the big fashion thing that they
did the other day in New YorkCity where people dressed right. So Olivia
was watching the met Gala and twoof the people were on, and one
of them is this girl with redhair. It's like bleached red hair,
not like natural redhall ice, nicenice ice, it's ice spice. Yeah,
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I hate to say I don't knowany of her songs. I'm like,
oh, this is it. Thisis how it happens because I know
what I like and now that you'renot in radio anymore and have to like
listen to what the current pops are. Yeah, now you have no idea,
Like I'm just like quick where Ilooked at my playlist on my Spotify
app, and I'm like, ohmy god, dol Fleetwood Mac and fucking
Kenny g You do you want toknow what my I should just let your
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really quick three? What's your topthree? Dude? So I'm gonna pull
this up just because it's fun.On like Spotify, they have artificial intelligence.
It's called DJ, so you know, great name. Absolutely not going
to have real DJs in probably fiveyears. So AI DJ, it's good.
It's based on my playlist. Iwant you to tell me what you
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think this guy looks like. Nowhe's not a real person, he's AI,
right, but just of course Ialready have a picture of what I
think he looks like. Hey,what's going on, Steve? I'm your
DJ X. I hope you're feelinggood. Obviously I think that he looks
like a bald black man with largeeyes and a huge smile that sometimes wears
like black frame glasses. Okay,and yeah, so let me keep going.
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Everything going is Friday with the mixof your kind of music Billie Eilish
starting it off. Ye all right, so Billie Eilish, nice, nice,
Shane Smokers. Does it give youa new playlist every day? Yes?
It doesn't. Okay, so thendoes it? Then does the AI
kind of pick up on your melancholy? Does it pick up on like what
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days you're a Debbie downer and thenfeeds into that, and then what days
it thinks it needs you to likegive you an upper. I don't know
if it's ever given me an upper, you know, but oh, there
you go. That's a vibe.Oh my god, So it thinks that
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you're me when I was thirteen.Wow, Because I told Christy that the
one that, of course is notgoing to pop up now is there's two
songs that currently I don't know why. I just start crying when I hear
them. I can actually make myselfcry. I feel like Julia Roberts,
You've really tapped into your feelings andI'm proud of you. They're just right
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there, bubbling at the surface.I gotta ask you for like it's so
we had therapy earlier this weekend.And the two songs just so you know,
if you gotta pull your shirt down, it's distracting. And maybe it's
a tease. The two songs thatmake me cry right now, I don't
have I don't actually really have aconnection why but it's Smashing Pumpkins tonight tonight
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and then Sarah Barelli's love song.That's why it makes sense because I was
like a teenager, but love song, no fucking clue why. It just
gives you every time it does.And I remember when that song came out
and it really hits spoke into youright out of the gate, and for
whatever, like I remembered distinctly,you made me listen to it like fifty
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five times because you're like, listento this and listen to this, and
this is what she's talking about.I mean, you really dissected it,
yeah, because it's a song aboutIt's a song that she was basically told
to make by the record label becauseshe didn't have a hit song. So
she wrote a song. We're saying, I'm not going to write you a
love song. She wrote a songpretty much saying if you record label,
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you can't tell me what to do, it's a fuck you. So that's
it really happy and yeah, butanyway, but it makes you know,
it makes you get the tears,it makes your eyes leap. I don't
know why, it's just the emotionalmusic part. So this is the question
I wanted to ask you, andI wanted to wait for the podcast.
Is in marriage therapy? I openedmy heart a little bit or you know,
the floodgates, and I got likeemotional and vulnerable. You did.
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I was proud of you did?You did that? So you liked that.
I like any time that you're ahuman and not a robot. See
like I think that I'm a humanon a daily basis, I like share
what's going on. No, no, okay, then what do I do?
You're a robot? Is that?Okay? Tell me what that means
(17:02):
to me When I say it,that means that you just kind of go
through the motions or you do whatyou think you have to do. Like
there's just there's no inflection to you. You're just there, okay, floating
along. But like we have likeconversations, we have like things that are
going on in life, and thisis it a It's not to the point
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where to turn on. It's moreof a like, oh, Steve,
I love it when you cry.But but for real though, like what
is it about me? Stuff thatyou already know? It's not like it's
new things. Oh I would disagree. No, no, okay, I
would disagree because it just it showslike a gentler side of you. It
shows a vulnerable side to you.It shows a side that you actually are
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wanting to sort of you don't like, dig deep into certain you know,
maybe difficult areas, to want toheal, to want to figure things out,
to do things different, you know, in the future. Do you
know that makes sense? Yeah,because that's where I'm not confused. But
that's where I think it's a littlebit interesting. Is that I've I've always
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been an open book with Oh Ithought I'm some on some things. There's
been things that are sort of likelike we don't talk about you don't talk
about this, but we that okay, And now how I just because it
not that it's a secret, butjust that it's like a trigger. Okay,
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you know what I mean? Doyou mean like it's a trigger,
Like that's something that would upset me, and then I would be upset,
okay, because I don't think Idon't think that. I'm like I'll talk
about anything like if you bring itup, like I might not just like
have a conversation about like out ofthe blue. But so, how do
you I'm going to turn the tableback now, how do you feel about
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you know, getting this like softerside if you will, Like, how
do you feel about that? Doesit make you feel like encouraged? Does
it make you feel embarrassed? Imean, I'll be honest, I can
say it and I don't feel anything, but like you giving me praise or
you saying that like that's what youwant? Do you know what I mean?
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Then I'm like, oh, likethat's what I'll head towards. I
thought that I was doing that,Okay, Like I think that that maybe
maybe I'm not the only one inrelationships. That's like I thought that I
was giving you right the I thoughtI was giving you that tea. I
thought I was giving you that likethe piece that you wanted. And that's
what's confirmed. Maybe like you don'tknow until you know we're excellent arguers was
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arguing about the same thing, butnot the same thing at all. We
actually argue about nothing most times.Yeah, it's like an episode we argue
about arguing. Yeah, which ismy favorite argument, Like we'll legit.
Some of our wildest, heaviest oneshave been about who said what? In
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what way did they say it?Like, we'll argue about like the phrasing
of a sentence that I said toyou six months ago, like just absolutely
bash it. Crazy stuff like Ithink that we're we're more creative than that.
Like I challenge us to start fightingabout more interesting things. No,
because then it would be bad.Well, say there's something earlier, like
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two days ago that we had anargument about, and I'm sorry, and
I know that I said, getyou, you're gas lighting me. But
like you said it when we Isaid it when I walked in the house.
Oh boy, we're not gonna Doesanyone else I want to ask,
does anyone else out there wish attimes that they had a GoPro on their
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head whenever just to hit the playbackbutton for either side? Ye? So,
like number one, I would loveif you're that firm believed that that's
how it happened. I would loveto validate that for you. I would
love to hit the playback button andsay, yes, Steve, you did
say that, or to prove myself. I absolutely know for a fact in
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my version that that that thing thatyou thought you heard wasn't side. Because
here's the other part for me,and maybe you don't. I don't know
how. We just need to goto the Black Mirror episode where we've got
that little camera in our that littlechip, because here's a play back.
We have this argument. I said, I came in and I said this
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to you, and you said younever said that to me when you came
in, right, all right,I'm even okay with finding out that I
didn't say it. Now I'm surethat I did because I can track back
that just happened. But I'd loveit if anyone is listening, there's a
couple if you could, like adm us, if you've ever actually gone
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and like had a recording, becausebecause some people really do have like well,
I think in this day and agetwo with all the like ring cameras
and nest and whatever people have theminside of their house, maybe I should
set up some cameras well. Aswe were talking, I actually it's a
bad idea to record your spouse.I just learned because I just googled it
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and I found from the American BarAssociation. It says the price you'll pay
it a press play when and whyyou should think twice before recording your spouse.
Oh, here's what it says.You may be tempted to see this
is a show where you actually learnthings. You may be tempted to record
your spouse on the slide a particularcontentious moment, especially during a nasty argument.
Heated arguments, candidate missions, andphysical alterations may seem to present proper
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opportunities to hit record. You basicallyhave to give consent to record someone.
Oh so even if it is anargument, then you can get in trouble
for it. Jesus's that makes sense. I mean, and it's probably bad
for your Like unlike in the worldof all the freaking paparazzi and all the
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freaking people with cell phones that tapeevery single thing everywhere. I mean,
get the hell ourant. I'm notgetting into another way than like I was
thinking about this during our walk.When I die, we don't have a
will. We've talked abou about thison the podcast before. It's something that
we actually need to do. Becausethen better to have it and not need
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it than need it and not haveit. But I've gone full circle for
a long time. I said,just bury me in the ground because I
don't want to be cremated, andI still don't know if I want to
be created, but I do likethe idea more and more of being turned
into compost. Yeah you want tobe human mulch, Yeah, human mulch.
I don't care it like you canmake me into a strawberry field and
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an apple tree because I'm not thereanyway. I don't want to eat you
though, that's the question that's realgross. Do you Let's say your spouse
dies. Is that weird to theneat them because the compost it's it's weird
to eat you, yes, likeyou as an apple. It's also like,
what if you get some kind ofweird tree disease and I have to
chop you down? Like that wouldbe fucked up. I don't think I
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could do that. Well, itwouldn't be nice. And then I had
to bury you twice. But it'sreally depressed. But I wouldn't be the
one causing the tree out, No, I had it. But that's a
very it sounds it sounds really cuteand like the Giving Tree book that we
read as children, But I feellike it doesn't hold water your theory of
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what you want to do. DidI tell you? Did I tell you
the thing that I think I did? The woman whose husband died? And
are you whispering? Is she here? No? She's not. There's some
woman I don't know where it is. But recently her husband died. She
wrote a book about like grief anddealing with grief, and it's a children's
book about how to deal with,you know, losing something, okay,
um, And she was recently arrestedbecause she's the one that killed him.
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Is that real? Yes? Hookingup with somebody else and now she documented
in a book. No she didn'tdocument him, No, no, no,
but she led breadcrumbs. I meanI didn't read the books. I
can't say that. It's a children'sbook. It's about grief. I understand
that, But like, but wouldn'tthat kind of come back to her somehow?
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I don't know how it would comeback anyway? How was she caught?
Do you have details for me?Pull it up? God can't bomb
drop with no details, Steve Case. It's from May eighth twenty twenty three.
After her husband died. Last year, Corey Richins wrote a children's book
on grief. Now she's charged withhis murder. Corey Richins was arrested on
Monday in Utah and is accused incharging documents of poisoning her husband with a
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lethal dose of fentanol at their homein Kansas, a small mountain town near
Park City. Prosecutors alleged at Richinscalled authorities in the middle of the night
in March twenty twenty two to reportthat her husband, Eric Richards, was
cold to the touch. The motherof three told officers that she had made
him a drink of vodka mix tocelebrate him selling a home, and then
went to suthe one of their childrenasleep in their bedroom. She later returned
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and found her husband unresponsive. Amedical examiner later found five times the lethal
dosage of fentonel in the system.In addition to the murder charges, Richards
also faces charges involving the alleged allegedpossession of GHB. What is that?
That's like one of the yeah,and I don't see to this one,
but basically the said like she wasmessing around with somebody else. Also Oh
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my god, I'm guessing, like, if you're gonna okay, so here's
what I was trying to say earlier. If you're gonna your husband, if
you're gonna have a broken brain andkill your husband, why wouldn't you just
kill them and walk as fast asyou could away from the whole bit?
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Why would you double down and writethem book about it? Giving yourself attention?
Well, I will say it isvery It is interesting that this happened
in twenty twenty two and she alreadyhas a book out. Oh I thought
you said twenty You just said,Oh, the article was in this past
in May, like a couple daysago. Yes, well, she just
got arrested this past Monday, recordingthis on Friday. But the actual thing
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happened last year. Yeah, okay, Um, yeah, I would say
that that's not very smart. Youshould just disappear with your lover, if
that's what she was doing. Yeah, but you can't do that because those
those people in Utah, I don'tknow, Well, they're gonna follow you
right away. You know that they'regoing to follow you, like if you
run, if you're on the lamb, maybe just how would you here?
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How would you kill me? Ifyou had to go. I just want
to know how to let's how toprepare for it, Like if you amally
Brad Crumbs right now, like thisaudio is never going to go away,
go for it, do it?M think about it. I don't know.
I really want to know, likehow you would do it. It
can be as this is making meuncomfortable. It can be are you doing
a bet h? Why have youthought about how you're gonna kill me?
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You ask the question if you alreadyhave the answer, I would do it
quick and dirty, probably blow upthe house. It would be this set
because it would be you just openeda new fear. Yeah, it's why
I'm not allowed to mess with likethe hot water heater or gas. Like
then you know we're safe because it'llbe an accident. Okay, it'll be
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an accident. I said, howabout you? Oh my god, you've
never thought like okay, okay thatit doesn't have to be me. How
would you kill a person like?I could never make this conversation deep dark
secret. I never think about killingother people. I think about yeating myself
off a cliff. Okay, doyou ever? Okay, so let's go
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there for a minute. Is itjust me, or if you're having a
deep dark thought you're driving down theroad, I wonder what it would be
like or feel like to just eatthe car into a telephone bowl or a
bridge? Is that just me?Yeah? That's dark? Do I need
more meds? I enjoyed it.You do need more meds? Um?
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That's where like, uh, Ican honestly say, like we went on
the Golden Gate Bridge like five yearsago, seven years ago, and that's
supposed to be you know, oneof the big places, yeah, suicide
outline stuff. Yeah, and Iremember I looked at it and I looked
over the edge and I was like, that's too far. Like that's honestly
like my literal phone. Yeah,I've never like actually thought about harming another
(29:36):
individual though, Like my brain justdoesn't work like that. Mine is,
like, and maybe because I didBinge Barry because I tried watching it the
first time with Bill Hayter and it'stotally you can tell he loves true crime.
Buries a show on what format.Okay Um, it's a total drama
y because it has like slapsticky elements, but it's also very good at like
the drama part of it. OkayUm, and I thought to myself,
(30:00):
like yeah, like the gun thingcouldn't do shaky hands um like if I
like for me, like yeah,like just because what do I love?
I love a spectacle. I'd wantit to be a spectacle. Like she
wouldn't do long term form torture.And I don't like the whole like idea
of like duck scrape and like ablue tarp or anything like that. Oh
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my god, you're absolutely leaving ablue print right now for people. But
do you want to know my favoriteand this is in a movie, my
favorite all time like murder death sceneever, Oh my god, was in
I think it's Hannibal. It's theone god they have the the hogs that
eat the Oh my god, it'sthe fucking best because it's crazy like that
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ship. Should I be nervous ifI start collected? Didn't they change your
meds? Like that's why, Thankgod shark tanks aren't a real thing.
It's actually scaring me a little bitreally, Like I rl like I don't
know when does the bit stop andwhen should I call for help? Like
I'm actually like doing the you know, the rescue sign with my hand right
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now for anyone listening. Well,I've talked about it before. Again.
One of my other favorite murders isthe one that they've made from Fargo,
which is a real stop and hearyourself. One of my favorite murders,
yeah, is that he got likea U haul truck and a wood chipper,
right, and he put his lifein in the U haul truck and
then he pulled over to the sideof the road and he just dropped her
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in the chipper and let it spray. Yeah, And of course, yeah,
cops are gonna go like, wesaw you chaul truck in the middle
of the side of the road atmidnight on a Tuesday. That's weird.
And when they're looking for him,they're like, wait a, but he
rented a U haul truck. Youjust look. And then they found a
piece of her tooth and that wasenough, right, Wow, So this
conversation as well. On that note, so the best part of what I
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need to go build a panic room. As we wrap up at it,
Wait, the show's not done.Um it's Steve Chrissy's here right now.
So this is what happened after wefinished the podcast. Okay, I'm just
playing this for you because you're herefor real, though, if you ever
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murdered me, I would come backthe biggest ghost you've ever seen, and
I would haunt the fuck out ofyou, like I would be the double
Oh. I know, so justkeep that it's a frame of reference.
It wouldn't be because you would dothings that were like if you non's the
(32:35):
fucking nag. No, it wouldn'tbe nagging. I would torture you and
you couldn't see me. I don'tknow. I would like hit you with
things and like have hot pokers onyou when you're sleeping. I'd like shove
shit up your ass. I justtorture you. Why did you smile when
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you were talking about killing people
Hey, welcome the show, brandnew episode. Make sure you stick around
at the very end because it getsreally dark, really quick. I don't
know. I'm still processing what happened. You just unplugged the microphone. You
unplugged the microphone. She just actuallyliterally she was so worked up. She
scared. I am bron be scared, but maybe you should be scared.
(00:24):
Just you know you are alert.You're aware, not alert sky aware,
your sky aware. Good to know. Also, we talk about something that
like a good way for you towork through issues in a relationship that we
actually then find out is highly illegal, So it's gonna be good for you
to learn about that. And abunch more and why Chrissie says, I'm
(00:45):
a Karen all coming up on.It goes both ways with Christie and Steve
(01:11):
beat Hey, welcome, the showgoes both ways with Christy and Steve.
What are you looking at? Youlooking at your phone? What are you
looking at? What do you got? Your mouth is wide open right now.
Now. I want to know whatthe tea spell it spill it in
real time. I want to getI want my honest eagle doing the breaststroke
(01:34):
across his body of water and thenhe gets to a log and lifts out
the biggest effing fish I've ever seen. Watch thus watch him doing the breaststroke.
Oh my god, that's not thebreastroke, that's the butterfly. Okay,
same difference, swim Okay, he'sswimming. Yep, he's definitely doing
the butterfly. He looks like MichaelPhelps, like he's third time time gold
(01:57):
winner. Yeah, Americans. Hegets to the shore. Huh and watch
watch how big this? Oh god, this is so really this is really
captivating to listen to. Oh that'swhy the best it's now he's on the
shore and he's got Oh my god, that is a giant like it's at
least the size of him. Yeah, whatever, it is. Holy shit,
(02:20):
I didn't know birds could do that. There you go. Well,
I love My favorite um Reddit isnature is Metal because anytime you because we
all watch enough Lion King and different, like you know cartoons where you see
animals like humanized animals, and thenyou'd see him do an animal shit in
the wilderness like eating other animals assholefirst, and then you're like, oh,
(02:43):
they would never do that. UmSo, anyway, welcome to Show
New Week. We just got backfrom a walk. It is cloudy today.
It was beautiful and sunny, soI spent a lot of time outside
and I got lots of injuries.Do you no injury season? For Steve?
It is? Do you know whatI learned on our walk? Seed?
What did you learn? Fat Christie? Hate summer? I have always
loved summer. That's where I thrive. That is my go to season.
(03:07):
I love everything hot and sweaty andwhatever, up until I realized that I
actually do sweat. So now I'vegot folds and rolls and things that rub
together that never have and that collectthe perspiration and it's there's chafing happening.
(03:30):
And I've never here to do withthat before. And I was like,
oh, yeah, maybe I didn't. I don't actually like summer. It
was because I was so tiny andI was so cold all the time.
Yeah, you were always complaining.Now that I actually know the sensation of
sweating, then I really I'm awinter girl. I mean, right now
I'm sweating. We came downstairs toour basement, which is always cold in
(03:52):
the wintertime. In the summertime,it's freezing, but I still have a
puddle of sweat on my chest rightnow from our walk where you called me
a Karen during our walk today,and I don't know what to do.
I'm sorry because I don't think it'sKaren activity. And it's because I have
recently, you know, still beeninterviewing for jobs. I had an interview
for a job last week where theguy said, get back to me by
(04:16):
later on this week, by Wednesday, and let me know, just remind
me to follow up with you,and right, great, Sure, So
a couple days went by, Ifollowed up with him. Nothing, no
response. So day goes by,second day. Now it's Friday, so
it's been five days since he saidthis, So ghost didn't Yeah, he's
ghost to me. So I textedhim because he had called me from a
(04:38):
cell phone. No reply to mytext. So I'm at this point a
moment, you're just like that whinydate. No, this is called common
courtesy of people. Okay, youcan just say got your thing, that's
it. You don't have to actuallylike get into it. So then I
wait and I wait, and now, like this past Monday, I sent
another email saying, hey, ohmy god, Steve, but you can
(05:00):
at least just say hey, Igot it. I understand that I understand
that that's like the proper etiquette thingto do, but I also understand the
concept of he's just not that intoyou and you need to take the hint,
like you're absolutely blowing him up andjust beating that like needy female right
now, like notice me, noticeme, love me? Well yeah,
(05:24):
I mean, but then at thesame time, then if you're not fought,
don't you think I understand there's persistence. So here's the fun fact.
I'm gonna flip the table on you. If a female did what you're doing
right now, then she's a needybitch. If what you're doing it as
a guy, it's like you're beingproactive, you're being persistent, you're going
(05:46):
after what you want. But thesame end result he's still leaving you on
red. Well if but if it'sBut it's different though, because this is
for a job. This isn't thisis not a relationship. But it's still
the same results, Like you youwant the thing and he's not giving it
to you. There was this it'shuman resources. It's an Instagram handle where
(06:11):
basically the person says we need toend the top the toxic workplace environment where
it's instant gratification was what the personsaid. Okay, they said, UM,
like, I haven't responded to youremail in the last seventy two hours
because I need twenty four hours tolike read it and then like twenty like
whatever. I shouldn't have to likerace through this whole thing. Well,
right, fuck you, here's mything. Fuck you. And unless you're
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that person that needs to reply tofive hundred people, they all want instant
gratification. They all want that replythe minute that they send it. I
understand that you need time to thinkbecause you want to give a proper answer
correct, and you might not beable to give a proper answer in that
moment or you have other ship todo, right, But if I sent
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you an email on Monday, youcan at least say, got it,
get back to you soon. Iget those emails. I'm fine with that
all day. But the idea thatit's like it's someone that you work with
or someone that you have like aclose connection with, or you're supposed to
be working on a project. NowI have to wait seventy two hours for
you just to fucking give me aresponse. Wow, how do I know?
Very passionate? How do I knowthat like what why are you leaving
(07:20):
me on on read? Because thenbecause there's a fine line, because we
also know people that just fucking blowshit off, right and they live well,
Because then then you on your endare wondering second guessing did they get
it, did they get it intheir pisted, did they get it in
or whatever? Yeah, like you'rejust you're left with your own deep dark
(07:41):
thoughts. And so I think perhapsthis should be a gold standard policy where
you just have like a little likean auto reply. So look, if
you work in an environment that can'tdo that instant gratification, personalized email for
every freaking thing, then have anauto response and it just says, got
(08:01):
your thing, get right back toyou. Yep. It's like the how
the cell phone says like I'm drivingright now, call you back, and
it's just like an automated thing.Like more people, would that make you
feel better if you got that done, that would actually make I think that
would help. I think that's theeasiest solution for so many people because that's
the same thing, Like it's thesame, but yeah, it is the
(08:22):
same thing with with a text message. If you text someone and you see
that they read it, and thenthey don't answer, and then they don't
answer. It makes my blood boil. You used to do that to me.
It's your it's your past life job. That's bullshit. That's okay,
because that's the other thing about itis because I would let my phone it
has notifications on, right, sowhen you would text me, the notification
(08:45):
thing would pop up, right.But that but that's okay. Here's but
I would always see the dot dotdot like you're writing something and I wasn't
because at by the kind of personthat thinks when I'm writing. Oh,
I mean, but honestly, we'vebeen together long enough to that you know
that it's like if I'm going torespond, I'm gonna respond right away,
or I don't see it or somethingelse is going on. That goes to
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my next thing, What are yourthoughts on people that put you on silence?
What does that mean? So they'relike when you're on your phone and
you're texting somebody and then it likeare you silent or have you been silenced?
No, it's to quote Oprah andMegan Markle interview, Dude, I'm
(09:26):
not even gonna get to that fuckinglike you know how like on your phone
you what people put you on donot Disturb. I don't even know how
to use that feature. How doyou, like, can you tell who's
do not disturbed you? Yeah,because when you're having the conversation it says
do not disturb. Now it canjust mean it's like, hey, I
don't want my phone going off.You know, I'm gonna it's supposed to
be for like if you're going tobed, then you don't get those of
(09:48):
like notifications have been silenced. Yeah, okay, because the only thing worse,
and I think you've done this actuallyalso that we've weeded out people that
are Android people. You can't getdown with the droid. Out of all
the things that make me who II am, the one that infuriates me
the most that isn't offensive, theonly one I can actually admit on the
podcast is yeah, people that haveandroids. Because there's plenty of you have
like antic hatred for Android users.I don't have an emphatic hatred. I
(10:13):
think I have an annoyance for Androidbecause I well, I think because Android
people, at least online, theythink that they're superior. Because and I
have to admit this part is thata lot of times Android phones are usually
more advanced. Then they have abetter camera. I think like they do
(10:35):
it first and then iPhone picks itup. Oh is that how it goes?
I think that's what they say,but I would have thought the opposite.
I know that's that's what they wantyou to to think. That's what
they want you to think. Butas as we are aging, I'm realizing,
like, oh, this is howit happens, this is how it
(10:56):
begins. Is that I'm starting toaddp my toe into like I don't like
it that lie, I don't likethis. And now I'm old enough where
I can decide that I don't likesomething like it's when you're a kid,
you're you're leaning into your stodgy oldman. Well, because I've decided that
when you're young, there's things thatyou don't like, and you make it
pretty clear to your parents. Idon't like the food. I don't like
(11:18):
peas. Yeah, I don't likebecause you you're pushing back against your parent
or against whatever. Right then,when you're a little bit older, you
know everything. You're in your twenties, who are you pushing back against?
Now? As a year old dude, Christie said the name Charlie Day yesterday.
And I've seen it everywhere. I'veseen it on a podcast, I've
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seen it on Tonight Show. He'sbeen on all these TV shows, on
YouTube, all these kind of things. And yesterday you said, who's Charlie
Day? And I said, thankfucking God? Do you want me to
be honest about who I thought hewas? Sure? If I was to
guess, I thought he was arapper. It's a rapper. Charlie Days
are, Yeah, a major Leaguebaseball player from the eighties. Maybe that's
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another good one. That's another verygood anyway, So who is he?
Steve? Because I looked it upfor you just he's on Always Sunny in
Philadelphia. So he's the co creatorof Always Sunny with Rob McNerney, who
is owner of the Wrexham Football League. But there's another one. I don't
(12:28):
even know her name. Olivia waswatching What's the big fashion thing that they
did the other day in New YorkCity where people dressed right. So Olivia
was watching the met Gala and twoof the people were on, and one
of them is this girl with redhair. It's like bleached red hair,
not like natural redhall ice, nicenice ice, it's ice spice. Yeah,
(12:48):
I hate to say I don't knowany of her songs. I'm like,
oh, this is it. Thisis how it happens because I know
what I like and now that you'renot in radio anymore and have to like
listen to what the current pops are. Yeah, now you have no idea,
Like I'm just like quick where Ilooked at my playlist on my Spotify
app, and I'm like, ohmy god, dol Fleetwood Mac and fucking
Kenny g You do you want toknow what my I should just let your
(13:13):
really quick three? What's your topthree? Dude? So I'm gonna pull
this up just because it's fun.On like Spotify, they have artificial intelligence.
It's called DJ, so you know, great name. Absolutely not going
to have real DJs in probably fiveyears. So AI DJ, it's good.
It's based on my playlist. Iwant you to tell me what you
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think this guy looks like. Nowhe's not a real person, he's AI,
right, but just of course Ialready have a picture of what I
think he looks like. Hey,what's going on, Steve? I'm your
DJ X. I hope you're feelinggood. Obviously I think that he looks
like a bald black man with largeeyes and a huge smile that sometimes wears
like black frame glasses. Okay,and yeah, so let me keep going.
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Everything going is Friday with the mixof your kind of music Billie Eilish
starting it off. Ye all right, so Billie Eilish, nice, nice,
Shane Smokers. Does it give youa new playlist every day? Yes?
It doesn't. Okay, so thendoes it? Then does the AI
kind of pick up on your melancholy? Does it pick up on like what
(14:20):
days you're a Debbie downer and thenfeeds into that, and then what days
it thinks it needs you to likegive you an upper. I don't know
if it's ever given me an upper, you know, but oh, there
you go. That's a vibe.Oh my god, So it thinks that
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you're me when I was thirteen.Wow, Because I told Christy that the
one that, of course is notgoing to pop up now is there's two
songs that currently I don't know why. I just start crying when I hear
them. I can actually make myselfcry. I feel like Julia Roberts,
You've really tapped into your feelings andI'm proud of you. They're just right
(15:13):
there, bubbling at the surface.I gotta ask you for like it's so
we had therapy earlier this weekend.And the two songs just so you know,
if you gotta pull your shirt down, it's distracting. And maybe it's
a tease. The two songs thatmake me cry right now, I don't
have I don't actually really have aconnection why but it's Smashing Pumpkins tonight tonight
(15:33):
and then Sarah Barelli's love song.That's why it makes sense because I was
like a teenager, but love song, no fucking clue why. It just
gives you every time it does.And I remember when that song came out
and it really hits spoke into youright out of the gate, and for
whatever, like I remembered distinctly,you made me listen to it like fifty
(15:54):
five times because you're like, listento this and listen to this, and
this is what she's talking about.I mean, you really dissected it,
yeah, because it's a song aboutIt's a song that she was basically told
to make by the record label becauseshe didn't have a hit song. So
she wrote a song. We're saying, I'm not going to write you a
love song. She wrote a songpretty much saying if you record label,
(16:15):
you can't tell me what to do, it's a fuck you. So that's
it really happy and yeah, butanyway, but it makes you know,
it makes you get the tears,it makes your eyes leap. I don't
know why, it's just the emotionalmusic part. So this is the question
I wanted to ask you, andI wanted to wait for the podcast.
Is in marriage therapy? I openedmy heart a little bit or you know,
the floodgates, and I got likeemotional and vulnerable. You did.
(16:41):
I was proud of you did?You did that? So you liked that.
I like any time that you're ahuman and not a robot. See
like I think that I'm a humanon a daily basis, I like share
what's going on. No, no, okay, then what do I do?
You're a robot? Is that?Okay? Tell me what that means
(17:02):
to me When I say it,that means that you just kind of go
through the motions or you do whatyou think you have to do. Like
there's just there's no inflection to you. You're just there, okay, floating
along. But like we have likeconversations, we have like things that are
going on in life, and thisis it a It's not to the point
(17:25):
where to turn on. It's moreof a like, oh, Steve,
I love it when you cry.But but for real though, like what
is it about me? Stuff thatyou already know? It's not like it's
new things. Oh I would disagree. No, no, okay, I
would disagree because it just it showslike a gentler side of you. It
shows a vulnerable side to you.It shows a side that you actually are
(17:49):
wanting to sort of you don't like, dig deep into certain you know,
maybe difficult areas, to want toheal, to want to figure things out,
to do things different, you know, in the future. Do you
know that makes sense? Yeah,because that's where I'm not confused. But
that's where I think it's a littlebit interesting. Is that I've I've always
(18:12):
been an open book with Oh Ithought I'm some on some things. There's
been things that are sort of likelike we don't talk about you don't talk
about this, but we that okay, And now how I just because it
not that it's a secret, butjust that it's like a trigger. Okay,
(18:34):
you know what I mean? Doyou mean like it's a trigger,
Like that's something that would upset me, and then I would be upset,
okay, because I don't think Idon't think that. I'm like I'll talk
about anything like if you bring itup, like I might not just like
have a conversation about like out ofthe blue. But so, how do
you I'm going to turn the tableback now, how do you feel about
(18:56):
you know, getting this like softerside if you will, Like, how
do you feel about that? Doesit make you feel like encouraged? Does
it make you feel embarrassed? Imean, I'll be honest, I can
say it and I don't feel anything, but like you giving me praise or
you saying that like that's what youwant? Do you know what I mean?
(19:18):
Then I'm like, oh, likethat's what I'll head towards. I
thought that I was doing that,Okay, Like I think that that maybe
maybe I'm not the only one inrelationships. That's like I thought that I
was giving you right the I thoughtI was giving you that tea. I
thought I was giving you that likethe piece that you wanted. And that's
what's confirmed. Maybe like you don'tknow until you know we're excellent arguers was
(19:41):
arguing about the same thing, butnot the same thing at all. We
actually argue about nothing most times.Yeah, it's like an episode we argue
about arguing. Yeah, which ismy favorite argument, Like we'll legit.
Some of our wildest, heaviest oneshave been about who said what? In
(20:02):
what way did they say it?Like, we'll argue about like the phrasing
of a sentence that I said toyou six months ago, like just absolutely
bash it. Crazy stuff like Ithink that we're we're more creative than that.
Like I challenge us to start fightingabout more interesting things. No,
because then it would be bad.Well, say there's something earlier, like
(20:26):
two days ago that we had anargument about, and I'm sorry, and
I know that I said, getyou, you're gas lighting me. But
like you said it when we Isaid it when I walked in the house.
Oh boy, we're not gonna Doesanyone else I want to ask,
does anyone else out there wish attimes that they had a GoPro on their
(20:47):
head whenever just to hit the playbackbutton for either side? Ye? So,
like number one, I would loveif you're that firm believed that that's
how it happened. I would loveto validate that for you. I would
love to hit the playback button andsay, yes, Steve, you did
say that, or to prove myself. I absolutely know for a fact in
(21:11):
my version that that that thing thatyou thought you heard wasn't side. Because
here's the other part for me,and maybe you don't. I don't know
how. We just need to goto the Black Mirror episode where we've got
that little camera in our that littlechip, because here's a play back.
We have this argument. I said, I came in and I said this
(21:32):
to you, and you said younever said that to me when you came
in, right, all right,I'm even okay with finding out that I
didn't say it. Now I'm surethat I did because I can track back
that just happened. But I'd loveit if anyone is listening, there's a
couple if you could, like adm us, if you've ever actually gone
(21:55):
and like had a recording, becausebecause some people really do have like well,
I think in this day and agetwo with all the like ring cameras
and nest and whatever people have theminside of their house, maybe I should
set up some cameras well. Aswe were talking, I actually it's a
bad idea to record your spouse.I just learned because I just googled it
(22:18):
and I found from the American BarAssociation. It says the price you'll pay
it a press play when and whyyou should think twice before recording your spouse.
Oh, here's what it says.You may be tempted to see this
is a show where you actually learnthings. You may be tempted to record
your spouse on the slide a particularcontentious moment, especially during a nasty argument.
Heated arguments, candidate missions, andphysical alterations may seem to present proper
(22:44):
opportunities to hit record. You basicallyhave to give consent to record someone.
Oh so even if it is anargument, then you can get in trouble
for it. Jesus's that makes sense. I mean, and it's probably bad
for your Like unlike in the worldof all the freaking paparazzi and all the
(23:06):
freaking people with cell phones that tapeevery single thing everywhere. I mean,
get the hell ourant. I'm notgetting into another way than like I was
thinking about this during our walk.When I die, we don't have a
will. We've talked abou about thison the podcast before. It's something that
we actually need to do. Becausethen better to have it and not need
(23:26):
it than need it and not haveit. But I've gone full circle for
a long time. I said,just bury me in the ground because I
don't want to be cremated, andI still don't know if I want to
be created, but I do likethe idea more and more of being turned
into compost. Yeah you want tobe human mulch, Yeah, human mulch.
I don't care it like you canmake me into a strawberry field and
(23:48):
an apple tree because I'm not thereanyway. I don't want to eat you
though, that's the question that's realgross. Do you Let's say your spouse
dies. Is that weird to theneat them because the compost it's it's weird
to eat you, yes, likeyou as an apple. It's also like,
what if you get some kind ofweird tree disease and I have to
chop you down? Like that wouldbe fucked up. I don't think I
(24:12):
could do that. Well, itwouldn't be nice. And then I had
to bury you twice. But it'sreally depressed. But I wouldn't be the
one causing the tree out, No, I had it. But that's a
very it sounds it sounds really cuteand like the Giving Tree book that we
read as children, But I feellike it doesn't hold water your theory of
(24:33):
what you want to do. DidI tell you? Did I tell you
the thing that I think I did? The woman whose husband died? And
are you whispering? Is she here? No? She's not. There's some
woman I don't know where it is. But recently her husband died. She
wrote a book about like grief anddealing with grief, and it's a children's
book about how to deal with,you know, losing something, okay,
um, And she was recently arrestedbecause she's the one that killed him.
(24:57):
Is that real? Yes? Hookingup with somebody else and now she documented
in a book. No she didn'tdocument him, No, no, no,
but she led breadcrumbs. I meanI didn't read the books. I
can't say that. It's a children'sbook. It's about grief. I understand
that, But like, but wouldn'tthat kind of come back to her somehow?
(25:22):
I don't know how it would comeback anyway? How was she caught?
Do you have details for me?Pull it up? God can't bomb
drop with no details, Steve Case. It's from May eighth twenty twenty three.
After her husband died. Last year, Corey Richins wrote a children's book
on grief. Now she's charged withhis murder. Corey Richins was arrested on
Monday in Utah and is accused incharging documents of poisoning her husband with a
(25:48):
lethal dose of fentanol at their homein Kansas, a small mountain town near
Park City. Prosecutors alleged at Richinscalled authorities in the middle of the night
in March twenty twenty two to reportthat her husband, Eric Richards, was
cold to the touch. The motherof three told officers that she had made
him a drink of vodka mix tocelebrate him selling a home, and then
went to suthe one of their childrenasleep in their bedroom. She later returned
(26:11):
and found her husband unresponsive. Amedical examiner later found five times the lethal
dosage of fentonel in the system.In addition to the murder charges, Richards
also faces charges involving the alleged allegedpossession of GHB. What is that?
That's like one of the yeah,and I don't see to this one,
but basically the said like she wasmessing around with somebody else. Also Oh
(26:34):
my god, I'm guessing, like, if you're gonna okay, so here's
what I was trying to say earlier. If you're gonna your husband, if
you're gonna have a broken brain andkill your husband, why wouldn't you just
kill them and walk as fast asyou could away from the whole bit?
(26:56):
Why would you double down and writethem book about it? Giving yourself attention?
Well, I will say it isvery It is interesting that this happened
in twenty twenty two and she alreadyhas a book out. Oh I thought
you said twenty You just said,Oh, the article was in this past
in May, like a couple daysago. Yes, well, she just
got arrested this past Monday, recordingthis on Friday. But the actual thing
(27:19):
happened last year. Yeah, okay, Um, yeah, I would say
that that's not very smart. Youshould just disappear with your lover, if
that's what she was doing. Yeah, but you can't do that because those
those people in Utah, I don'tknow, Well, they're gonna follow you
right away. You know that they'regoing to follow you, like if you
run, if you're on the lamb, maybe just how would you here?
(27:41):
How would you kill me? Ifyou had to go. I just want
to know how to let's how toprepare for it, Like if you amally
Brad Crumbs right now, like thisaudio is never going to go away,
go for it, do it?M think about it. I don't know.
I really want to know, likehow you would do it. It
can be as this is making meuncomfortable. It can be are you doing
a bet h? Why have youthought about how you're gonna kill me?
(28:03):
You ask the question if you alreadyhave the answer, I would do it
quick and dirty, probably blow upthe house. It would be this set
because it would be you just openeda new fear. Yeah, it's why
I'm not allowed to mess with likethe hot water heater or gas. Like
then you know we're safe because it'llbe an accident. Okay, it'll be
(28:23):
an accident. I said, howabout you? Oh my god, you've
never thought like okay, okay thatit doesn't have to be me. How
would you kill a person like?I could never make this conversation deep dark
secret. I never think about killingother people. I think about yeating myself
off a cliff. Okay, doyou ever? Okay, so let's go
(28:47):
there for a minute. Is itjust me, or if you're having a
deep dark thought you're driving down theroad, I wonder what it would be
like or feel like to just eatthe car into a telephone bowl or a
bridge? Is that just me?Yeah? That's dark? Do I need
more meds? I enjoyed it.You do need more meds? Um?
(29:14):
That's where like, uh, Ican honestly say, like we went on
the Golden Gate Bridge like five yearsago, seven years ago, and that's
supposed to be you know, oneof the big places, yeah, suicide
outline stuff. Yeah, and Iremember I looked at it and I looked
over the edge and I was like, that's too far. Like that's honestly
like my literal phone. Yeah,I've never like actually thought about harming another
(29:36):
individual though, Like my brain justdoesn't work like that. Mine is,
like, and maybe because I didBinge Barry because I tried watching it the
first time with Bill Hayter and it'stotally you can tell he loves true crime.
Buries a show on what format.Okay Um, it's a total drama
y because it has like slapsticky elements, but it's also very good at like
the drama part of it. OkayUm, and I thought to myself,
(30:00):
like yeah, like the gun thingcouldn't do shaky hands um like if I
like for me, like yeah,like just because what do I love?
I love a spectacle. I'd wantit to be a spectacle. Like she
wouldn't do long term form torture.And I don't like the whole like idea
of like duck scrape and like ablue tarp or anything like that. Oh
(30:21):
my god, you're absolutely leaving ablue print right now for people. But
do you want to know my favoriteand this is in a movie, my
favorite all time like murder death sceneever, Oh my god, was in
I think it's Hannibal. It's theone god they have the the hogs that
eat the Oh my god, it'sthe fucking best because it's crazy like that
(30:45):
ship. Should I be nervous ifI start collected? Didn't they change your
meds? Like that's why, Thankgod shark tanks aren't a real thing.
It's actually scaring me a little bitreally, Like I rl like I don't
know when does the bit stop andwhen should I call for help? Like
I'm actually like doing the you know, the rescue sign with my hand right
(31:07):
now for anyone listening. Well,I've talked about it before. Again.
One of my other favorite murders isthe one that they've made from Fargo,
which is a real stop and hearyourself. One of my favorite murders,
yeah, is that he got likea U haul truck and a wood chipper,
right, and he put his lifein in the U haul truck and
then he pulled over to the sideof the road and he just dropped her
(31:29):
in the chipper and let it spray. Yeah, And of course, yeah,
cops are gonna go like, wesaw you chaul truck in the middle
of the side of the road atmidnight on a Tuesday. That's weird.
And when they're looking for him,they're like, wait a, but he
rented a U haul truck. Youjust look. And then they found a
piece of her tooth and that wasenough, right, Wow, So this
conversation as well. On that note, so the best part of what I
(31:52):
need to go build a panic room. As we wrap up at it,
Wait, the show's not done.Um it's Steve Chrissy's here right now.
So this is what happened after wefinished the podcast. Okay, I'm just
playing this for you because you're herefor real, though, if you ever
(32:14):
murdered me, I would come backthe biggest ghost you've ever seen, and
I would haunt the fuck out ofyou, like I would be the double
Oh. I know, so justkeep that it's a frame of reference.
It wouldn't be because you would dothings that were like if you non's the
(32:35):
fucking nag. No, it wouldn'tbe nagging. I would torture you and
you couldn't see me. I don'tknow. I would like hit you with
things and like have hot pokers onyou when you're sleeping. I'd like shove
shit up your ass. I justtorture you. Why did you smile when
(32:57):
you were talking about killing people
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