Rob Clark On IP...Frequently Pt. 2

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In these bleak days, humanity is at a breaking point.
Economies are tanking, the woke mob is canceling everything, and
the little guy who's just trying to run a small
business is getting screwed from both ends. But not all
is lost. Amidst the chaos, two men offer up their

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voices in the darkness, dropping two thousand pounds laser guided
truth bombs on today's lunacy, introducing the Sirens of Sanity,
David Pridham and l Bradley Sheef.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
So jaded.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Is that where it's supposed to be well jaded?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
By uh Aarosmith, one of the great songs I believe
in the nineteen nineties. Even Tyler is one of the
largest landowners in Maui, I believe.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
I don't think they really go to the games anymore.
But yeah, that's a great group, and unfortunately they've they've
reached the end of the yellow brick road. As your
twenty one one hundred dollars refund check would indicate.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
It was a bummer for the family.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
We had tickets for the whole family to go see the.

Speaker 7 (01:26):
Final show there, but it was not to be.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Buddy, Well, why don't you go see justin Timberlake. I
hear those tickets are going. They're pretty cheap since that
dba est.

Speaker 7 (01:37):
Yeah, well there's a reason they're cheap, buddy, because they're
not Perosmith tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
So no, you can watch.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
He's a song and dance band, right JT. He's like
a poor man's Gene Kelly. How about a poor man's
Jean Rayburn.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Jean Rayburn?

Speaker 7 (01:53):
Yeah maybe, I mean again, if Gene Kelly we were
touring be I admittedly I would go see that, but
I justin Timberlake. Not my speed.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
At your cup of tea, Well there it is. David
Purdeman Bradschief.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
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whether it be the Twitter, the X or Facebook or
bumble bumble. If you enter the term at IP underscore frequently,
you'll be surprised with what you find, correct, Brad.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
That's probably an accurate statement. The surprise about.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
What you find part How many social media things platforms
are there?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Lots?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, I mean, listen, if you go by just a
definite So if you go to the meta right the
great AI tool and you say, tell me all the
social media platforms there are out there, you probably at
least have a dozen or so.

Speaker 7 (03:38):
That seems like too many, but then one seems like
too many.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Well, anyway, so we are here this week. Of course,
we have a very special content for you. Later we
have part two of our interview Freewheeling Discussion with Robert
Ignatius C of the Lone Gunman podcast, UH, talking about

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all things Trump assassination, a FK assassination, and you know
it was interesting, Brad. In the middle of this whole thing,
the New York Times magazine comes out with a cover
profile on John Hinckley, again no middle name, not successful,
but he is now a folk singer I believe does

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UH frequent your neck.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Of the woods. So you may see him at your
local haunt the.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Probably one of those one of those pubs over there
and h in Breck where you know you could you
and your lovely wife could stroll in there one night
looking for a uh you know, a nice French dip,
maybe a beer or two, and uh lo and behold
there's the would be assassin of Ronald Wilson Reagan sitting
there singing Kumbaya or Bridge over Troubled Water or something

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some Joan Baiaz. If I had a hammer or something,
and you know that that's an opportunity for you to
do what.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
That would be an opportunity.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
It would be again, as we've already mentioned in another context,
it would be a surprise to see Ankley. You sent
me the picture from the New York Times magazine.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
He looks for all the world like he is still
talking about murdering someone.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
So got a guitar to stay away.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah, it does have a guitar. Given that, the only
wandering I do.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
As a general rule is, you know, I wander out
of my office and down to my living room, where
I certainly would hope not to see John Hinckley. I
will be on the safe side.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
So Brad Lot's going out of the world.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Of course, we want to get to part two of
our interview with Rob Clark. But first exciting news on
the campaign front, Kamala And listen, if you went back
to nineteen eighty five, right, because we talked about time
travel all the time. Yeah, So if if old Brad
with that old Brad, you're not old. If current modern

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day twenty twenty four, Brad went back to nineteen eighty
five and found nineteen eighty five Brad, right, Reagan era Brad,
Morning in America, Brad, and you only had school Brad, correct,
like like that terminator fet deal, only without the whole
takeover the world. And you had you had to, you

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had to to deliver the message as to who was
the Democratic nominee for president? And if modern twenty twenty
four Brad looked at nineteen eighty five Brad and said,
Kamala is the Democratic nominee for president of the United States,
I mean.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
I'd be fine with it because I would presume it
was the wrestler.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well, yeah, of course, and and but but but isn't
the first question. How can like for nineteen eighty five, Brad,
you would look at twenty twenty four bread and say, wait,
it's like I thought.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I had more hair than that.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
But wait a second, how can the Ugandan giant who
doesn't speak a lick of English become president the United
States when the Constitution formids it.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
I mean, Kissinger couldn't run.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
For God's sakes, I'd be fine with it.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
I remember, I'm living in an era when an.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
Actor became the president and actually did a very good job.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
So I would just say, well, shoot, if Ronald Reagan
can be the President of the United States, than the
Uganda giants certainly can.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
And my presumption would simply be that you know, the
rules got bent or modified, or perhaps it was a
waiver of some sort that allowed the giant to take
the top job.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Someone came to their senses, in other words, exactly so.
So anyway, the big news in the campaign now is
hot off the press is in the middle of this
Rob Clark interview, You've got the Wall Street crash of
this week. But uh, and this whole economy is going
to hell in a handbasket. But Kamala Harris has picked

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her vice president and it is the great Governor.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Tim Waltz.

Speaker 7 (08:12):
Tim Waltz afraid.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
I don't know the.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Man governor of Minnesota, progressive Tim Waltz. You don't know.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
I presumed it was going to be a progressive, but no,
never heard of him. But you know what, and I
realized that many people are saying, why, how can it possibly?
I just don't. I'm not a political guy. I certainly
don't know who the governor of Minnesota is.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
It's probably because Minnesota is not where you want to be,
although you did run a company there at one.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Point I did a man Cato.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I liked cat and this guy was Even then, I.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Didn't know who the governor of Minnesota was.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
So I believe Tim Waltz is a former high school
teacher in man Cato's progressive. Oh yeah, progressive, sixty year
old who's claim to fame? He's he was the governor
during the George Lloyd rowleet Riots which took place there,
and uh he uh, very progressive. They they I guess
it came down to him and the governor of Pennsylvania,

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more moderate Shapiro, but the Democrats didn't want him because
he's Jewish and they wanted to appeal to Hamas. So
he picks Tim Waltz and Tim Walts started to come out.
He's had, you know, a few few incidents picked up
for d w I in the late nineties. He was

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a he's a veteran rat a veteran, so you've got
he's got that going for him. I mean, you're pleased
with that, correct.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
Well, As a general rule, I like it when people
have engaged in military service, but that is certainly not
the only or even the most important aspect of any leader.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Well, he was the leader of his National Guard battalion
in Minnesota.

Speaker 7 (09:56):
So it was his entire military history just in the
National Guard.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Well, I mean the National Guard.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
But of course the Minnesota National Guard did get deployed
to Iraq.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
I might not be fortunate that. I'm just asking the question.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
No, I'm just saying the National Guard get deployed to Iraq.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Unfortunately, a few weeks before that, he left the National
Guard after promising his men that he would join them,
and he, quote, according to one member of the National Guard,
slithered out the door before the Iraq deployment. And then
he ran for Congress the next year as an anti
war Democrat, went into Congress for a couple of terms,

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became the governor of Minnesota, and now he is on
the ticket with Kamala.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
None of that surprises me, from the slithering out the
door to avoid the deployment, to the immediately launching and politics,
to somehow convincing the people of Minnesota to vote for him,
and then being picked by Kamala Harrison. Now knowing all
of that, and I'm not smarised by any of.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
It, Yeah, well, I mean, there you go. So it's, uh, well,
we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
But hey, what did you think about the plea deal
that the Biden administration reached with those nine to eleven terrorists?

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Do you like that? Well?

Speaker 7 (11:14):
I saw that that had happened, but I knew that
if I read the article, I was probably going to
have to, you know, just question myself for three days,
so I didn't.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
They reached a plea deal to not seek the death
penalty against the Khalid shik Muhammad and a couple of
those other guys, and then as soon as word got out,
they rescinded the plea deal.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
You gotta love, you gotta love this world. You gotta
love this world.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
Did they think word was not going to get out?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
I have no idea but when the families found out,
they just went they just went crazy.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (11:48):
Well yeah, I mean, if there's anyone that you would
if you're going to have a death penalty.

Speaker 7 (11:53):
And the federal government of the United States does.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
Have one, if you're going to have one, it is
hard to imagine a set of characters who would be
more deserving of the death penalty than these guys.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (12:11):
And I also, just as an aside, find it ironic
that the guys who convinced twenty Saudi hijackers right, one
of them overslapped and that's why there was only nineteen.
That's the truth, twenty Saudi hijackers to get on planes
because that's what God wanted, That they were going to

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achieve nirvana by martyring themselves for Allah, that they would
seek to avoid the death penalty, doesn't that strike strike
he was ironic? Wouldn't it be better for them if
they were to be martyred for the cause, as they
convinced so many others to do.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
You would think, one would think, Brad, one would think,
But it's you know, at any event, they did rescind
that plea deal.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So now that they'll continue on the havel in the trial.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
There is ah and this is actually interesting, I guess
is in the Boston area.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
As you know, I currently reside near Boston. And apparently,
and you know, we have what you have. You know,
we've talked about wild turkeys.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
Before, we have Yeah, they can be dangerous. They got
a postman.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
But last we talked I think correct.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
And apparently in Boston, a wild turkey recently attacked an
Audi convertible for like fifteen minutes and just decimated the thing,
scratched it all up. And there there's a video of
someone leaving a note in a car. The note reads,
in part, I just watched and recorded a massive a

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massive turkey attacked your car for about fifteen minutes. It
looks pretty scratched up. I tried to scare the bird,
but it ignored me. And there's actually a video of
this thing. Oh my god, this is like this is
this is this is something.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Oh my tear.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
The cardis shred so you got that. And then and
then afterwards the car you wouldn't even rite me, it's
just dashed.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
And then second, you know the big we follow all
the big all the big court cases.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah generitely, yes.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Well we have the big Burkemeyer decision. Burkemeyer decision out
of the Wisconsin I'm sorry to Ohio Supreme Court. The
Burkemeyer versus wings On Brookwood big suit which we've all
been following.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Very very closely.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Of course, this is the suit about whether or not
the folks said wings On Brookwood would be able to
advertise boneless wings if the boneless wings contained some semblance
of a bone. And then, of course this is what
happened when somebody ordered the boneless wings, found a bone
in their wing, choked, didn't die, but then sued in

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the Ohio courts, went all the way up to the
Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court has ruled that quote
unquote boneless wings, boneless chicken wings can have bones in them,
in a four to three decision on par with like
Plessy v. Ferguson and the Marbury versus Madison case, the
Scopes monkey trial, all that stuff. This is right up

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there with it, and I mean, shoot, just very exciting stuff.

Speaker 7 (15:24):
So it went, this case went out of Ohio to
the Ohio Supreme Court or to the Supreme Court of
the United States.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
It could end up at the US Supreme Court, but
as of now, four to three decision against a restaurant
patron who choked on a bone in a boneless way.
Four to three, that's as close as it gets.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
Well that that is as close as but five to
four is, you know, technically close statistically, and the bigger
those numbers get.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
But four to three, I presume they have.

Speaker 6 (15:57):
A bunch of seven judges in the cordons, not suppose
that can get. And it's good to know that there's
so little going on in the state of Ohio that
the Ohio Supreme Court, hey, this case and get it
the real out.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Of m And look now you've got some certainty on
that on that deal as well. And I also encourage
you to watch the video of the turkey attacking the Audi. Again,
no no connection whatsoever between the Wings decision and the
turkey other than the turkey does have wings and wild
turkey can fly brod as you know then, But no

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other connection whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
But anyway, there we are, there we are, there.

Speaker 7 (16:39):
We are, and there we shall stay because now certainly.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
You have to get Rob Clark in here. There's gonna
be no time. And if there's no time for Rob,
I we'll get upset.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
That's correct.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
We always try to because I introduced Brad to a
lot of this JFK stuff a few years ago, and
we always try to come in to come up with
something new that maybe Brad doesn't know about that you
can talk about briefly and just give him, you know,
because there's so much in the JFK assassination and you

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can dig into it. I started doing those that substack
with you know, Jefferson.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Morley, the Washington Post reporter.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, he does this substack where they do these zoom
calls once a week, and I mean, it's just the
most bizarre thing because they're like filing this lawsuit against
the Biden administration for these documents, and and they just
talk about the lawsuit for like an hour and a
half to just do this zoom call. It's like it's
like this, it's not nearly as entertaining as the Lone
Gunman podcast, which is terrific. And I tried to explain

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to Brad that whole Martin theory y'all had so and I.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Think that listened. The research bread that they do.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Is just second and none on the on the Kennedy assassination.
But that was that was fascinating. But Albert Schweitzer University, right, Ron,
can you can you tell Brad about Abert Schweitzer University
because this thing is one of the There's so many
bizarre things about the Oswald backstory, but this is one
of them, and this is crazy.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
So Albert Schweitzer College, I believe I was in. Was
it in.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Switzerland, Switzerland? Somewhere in Europe?

Speaker 5 (18:19):
I at heks Switzerland?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, I think it was Switzerland. But he tells
a couple of people in the Marines, you know, before
he gets out on his early discharge, that he's gonna
make his way to Albert Schwischer College and in Switzerland
and go to college. They go to school. He even
manages to write them and fills out an application, pays

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his twenty five dollars tuition, and instead of going to
Albert Schweitzer College, what he does is he hops on
a freight liner out in New Orleans the Marion likes,
and he makes his way to Europe, England specific and
then I believe hops a train to Helsinki and from

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there makes his way into Russia, you know, where he
supposedly prize to defect. But uh, you know, when the war,
when the war Commission looked into this Albert Schweitzer college, right,
you know, they contacted Switzerland, was like, you know, send
us all the information you have on this college and
about Oswald who he talked to ya YadA, And Switzerland

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didn't even know this college existed and it's in their country.
And they finally found it and it was like one building,
very odd and there was only like twenty five or
thirty people that were attending this college. So how and
the heck would Oswald be in the Marine Corps stationed

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in Japan and then come back even know that this
college existed for one and then why would he attempt
to trobad of go there and pay for tuition but
yet never go. It's just another one of those odd
discrepancies in his life.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
No explanation about it.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
It's crazy. It's and twenty five bucks back then was
real money. I mean it would he didn't have any money?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Right, Yeah, very interesting, but it's a it's a rabbit
hole that doesn't go down very far, but it's it's
it's an interesting one. Nonetheless, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
That his whole backs Right now. For me, I'm still stuck.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
I'm focusing on the Archduke Ferdinand assassination and trying to
get to the bottom of that. And so once i've
once I've moved past that, I can get more into JFK.
But I mean, the more you hear about Oswald, the
more bizarre it is. And even what you said today,
Rob is, you know, apparently it was down to President
Kennedy as to whether or not the roof was going

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to be on that car, and which makes perfect sense.
I mean, it's so to this day, the Secret Service,
you know, defers to the president on certain things. The
President says, hey, like you know, Clinton used to go
for a run, used to go running around DC, and
that was a nightmare for the Secret Service, right, I mean,
they they once arrested a guy who was sitting on
a park bench with a ballpeen hammer right by where

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Clinton was going to run, because and he was going
to jump up and try to beat Clinton with his
ballpeen hammer. And you know, luckily one of the agents,
you know, saw the guy sitting on a park bench,
was out in front of the route, said hey, who
are you and what are you doing here? And what's
with the hammer? And you know, he was just a loony.
But you know, when you when you look at you know,

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all of that. It is just you know, it's just
crazy the number of things that go on and that
the Secret Service defers to. But what would have happened
if Kennedy had said, you know, to Oswalt's plan and
if there was a second shooter on the Grassy Knoll,
to his plan, if if Kennedy had said, you know what,
but the top on, well, the top was.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Not bullet proof, right, I mean it was like a no,
it was not bulletproof. But you know, it was raining
early that morning, and had it not stopped raining as
they were, you know, they're on love Field getting the
limo ready and glad handing and all that, and I
think if if if it had not stopped raining, the
bubble top would have been on the car. Yeah, you know,

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those come you know, come down to some condensation, you know,
changing the course of history.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Jim Larr actually the newsman who was there that day.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
It's amazing because a lot of the people who became
the big newsman of the eighty ninety McNair Robert.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
McNeil, Dan rather.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Broke calls.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, others were there that day, and uh, Jim Lair
wrote a book I think it was called Top Down.
It was a novel about the taking off of the
top of the Kennedy.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Vehicle. And then Jeff Greenfield Brad wrote a book What.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
If Kennedy Lived, about how Kennedy if he survived the thing,
everything that would have happened was basically nuclear war like
type deal.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Gary Hard I think became president, and that Jeff Greenfield book.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Since I talked to you all last you know, there
was a secret Service agent that came out with a
book in the fall of last year, and he gave
a very interesting account of that day where he basically
finds an intact bullet. It looks a whole lot like

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the Magic bullet in the seam of the car where
the trunk meets the back seat. And of course JFK
had a shallow wound in his upper part of his
back that did not go in very far. And the
secret Service agent that wrote this book, he said, you know,

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they were kind of cleaning out the car, getting President
and Missus Kennedy's things out of it, and he saw
this bullet laying there, so he grabbed it, takes it
in the hospital and lays it on a stretcher, which
is interesting because that changes the entire dynamics of what
we have come to accept happen that day. It changes

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the shot sequence. For instance, if you have the magic
bullet not going through Kennedy and into Connolly and doing
all these things, you know, it changes everything.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Really Yeah, well, and why in the world would you
do that?

Speaker 6 (24:31):
I mean again, I was in federal law enforcement for
you know, over a dozen years. If you find a bullet,
is you know, in an assassination of bullet is very
much evidence. Yeah, I mean I you know, you don't
have to have been long out of Quantico to go hunt.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
This is probably important.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Why in the world would you take it out, you know,
slip it in your pocket like it was a pack
of gum and then lay it on a stretcher in
a hospital apropos of nothing like? I mean just I
was not and you know, in the zip code of
the world's greatest fbig But I can tell you that
had I found a bullet in a car on a
shooting scene, I would have said, hey, the place, I

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would have said, hey, like, there's a bullet over here
to whoever was in charge of collecting evidence.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Right, we gave a lot of He gave a lot
of testimony. He wrote contemporaneous statements and this was not
in them. I mean, this is all new stuff that
he never he never raised.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Right, Yeah, he says that. You know, somebody gave him
Josiah Thompson's book Six Seconds in Dallas, you know, within
the past couple of years, and he read it and
he realized it because his excuse was Okay, he was
young at the time, twenty four and to correlate it
back to what happened to Trump, nothing like this had
happened in a very long time before it had happened

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to JFK.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
So this this young secret Service agent, you know, is
riding in the car behind him. See his head get
blown off. You know, they know they failed in their
job to protect the president, and so it was utter chaos.
Once they got to Parkland Hospital, you know, they were
thinking about trying to save the guy. They had to

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get him out of the car into the hospital. They
had to get missus Kennedy's freaking out. They got to
calm her down, and they got to worry about Johnson,
he's there too. They got to worry about the Governor
Connolly and I think it was just mass confusion and
a lot of people not knowing what to do. And
at that time, you know, if if you're going through

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something like this, like he said in his book, you know,
he basically just went on autopilot and he wasn't thinking
clearly and was stunned at what had just happened, was
in shock about what had just happened, and just did
something and didn't think anything of it, really didn't think
it was important, didn't really follow the Warrant Commission, didn't

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follow Oswald. In fact, the guy quit the Service like
a couple I think, less than a year after the
Kennedy assassination because he couldn't get out of his head.
You know, he couldn't sleep, he couldn't stop thinking about this,
and it's just it was something that just didn't sit
right with him. It didn't match with his life or
what he wanted.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
His life to be.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
So you know, he quit the Secret Service and wouldn't
do something else. And then all these years later, you know,
it was never on his radar until somebody gave him
this book to read and he was like, oh, you know,
I think the Magic Bullet might be the one that
I put on that stretcher and it came from the
limousine and he has this realization. I mean, I don't
see this guy being a scheister or or something like

(27:42):
that trying to make a quick book. I mean, the
guy's like eighty some years old at this point.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
It's interesting though, because you know, Brad and I talk
about this a lot. This is the the classic thing
of there's always something right. There's the guy, this guy
coming forward. There's the all the stuff with the autopsy
that went on, just crazy stuff where people seeing different
types of caskets and then people who participated in photographing

(28:10):
the autopsy ending up dead, the lead doctor at the
autopsy burning his notes right after his handwritten notes, right
after the autopsy. You've got the whole you know, the
CIA connection. You've got all these people seeing people behind
the grass sea knoll.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
And then you have those other plots.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
And this gets me back to the three name thing,
right And I knew I knew this right there. So
there was a there was another plot in like Florida
where they had some Cuban with three names, and then
there was a plot Brad in Chicago where they had
Thomas Arthur.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Valley right, and he didn't even he didn't even kill anybody.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
But he has three names and so and he had
the same type of background, like a marine. He was
in the YouTube bases and all this stuff and trained.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
And it just is like and this guy.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
They detained this guy after Kennedy was supposed to go
to Chicago and he didn't go because there was some
some world event something happened.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
But uh, they detained this guy.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
And this guy was like in a high rise right
on the he was working in a high rise right
on the parade route where Kennedy was.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Supposed to drive was supposed to drive by. And he
has like the same background as Oswald. I mean, he's
one of these guys.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
That they you know, the theory is that the CIA
puts them up to this.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Or there.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
I don't know, but but it's and if you believe
what you hear, the person that dropped the dime on
this operation in Chicago was someone named.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Lee right who called it in. I mean, whether that's
true or not, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
It was in the Oliver Stone deal, but but I mean, yeah,
it's yeah, but it's but it's there's always something with
this stuff, and it's That's what makes it so so fascinating.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, the correlations between the two, the Kennedy, the assassination,
of course, the Trump attempted. One is you have two
candidates who basically, you know, JFK was not liked by
a lot of He wasn't liked by the FBI. Hoover
hated him, the CIA was not a fan. He fired
out Alan Dulles. You know that these mega industries like

(30:22):
the steel industry, the oil industry hated him. You know,
he had a lot of enemies. And but one thing
that JFK and Trump have in common is they have
fu money. They aren't they weren't reliant on you know,
these you know, gigantic donations where you know, once once
you get into office, hey remember us, you know type

(30:45):
of thing, you know, And they were both. I mean,
they say what you will about Trump, but he's not
a warmonger, you know, I don't think we's the one
time we have been in war and like you know,
the past god knows how long is when Trump was
in office. So you know, I'm not saying he's some

(31:06):
you know, he's he snicked like like Kennedy was, but uh,
you know, when you when you stop and you look
at the correlations. You know, the media hates Trump, the
deep state hates Trump because he's not beholding anybody. He's
got his own money. But then you look at some
of the things, like the people he puts on his cabinet,

(31:27):
you're like, hm, you know, why is he doing this?
Or you know a lot of the promises that did
these presidents make while they're on their campaign. They never
pan out. They never do what they say they're going
to do. And I'm not saying Trump is as a
as a great president compared to JFK by any means,
but I think we all understand enough when it comes

(31:49):
to politics that the president is pretty much, at this
point in history, a figurehead, a puppet if you will,
doesn't really wield much power as far as having a
lot of say in things. They're that you know, they're
very impressed upon, and but still to take away the

(32:12):
illusion of our democracy with a bullet instead of allowing
the people to be heard through their vote is the
most Unamerican thing imaginable. And that's whether you're trying to
take out somebody running for president or forcing the president

(32:36):
to step down anything like that. You know it impedes
on our illusion of democracy that we all have, you know,
a right to choose and and have a say in
who is running this country. And when an assassin's bullet
takes that choice away, for you mean, that's that's the

(33:00):
worst thing that could ever happen.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, you know, if they were succeeded that day and
killing Trump, could you imagine just imagine the fallout from that.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Oh my goodness, it'd be horrific.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
I mean, you know, maybe not civil warlike, but be
a lot of very upset people.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Oh absolutely.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
I mean setting aside the fact that, you know, somebody
got murdered, and someone did get murdered in this event,
you know, unfortunately, you know, a guy who was apparently
just an amazingly stand up father of two daughters, volunteer firefighter,
you know, the league coach, you just want to talk
about a portrait of America, That guy was it. And
he loses his life in this event, and the candidate

(33:46):
very nearly loses his life. Two other gentlemen were seriously injured.
I mean, you take a five, five six round, that's
never a small deal, So you know, I mean it's
just yeah, and but again you kind of go back
to where we started. And this is where we just
need to be careful in this country, in this day
and age. Is when you start banding about the kinds
of terms the mainstream media is band being about about

(34:09):
Donald Trump. And I don't care whether you love them,
you hate them, you don't care about them, you're neutral
the whole thing. You wish the whole thing would go away.
Wherever you stand. You've got to be very very careful
about getting on the public airwaves and saying someone is
going to end our democracy and is Adolf Hitler. I
mean to the point where some magazine I remember a

(34:29):
Slate or some magazine ever heard of, you know, did
a sort of a like a you know, computer based
morphing of Donald Trump's face in Adol Hitler's face and
put it on the cover of their magazine. I mean,
you are morally responsible for someone taking a shot at
the person that you do that with, right, But no

(34:49):
one's ever even bringing that up, like the Hey, you
know there's some you got to be We used to
use a term called responsible journalism with that.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
I mean that's just out the window.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Yeah, And you know, we got about forty eight hours
where people were you know, sort of felt like, oh,
you can't, you can't say anything.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
And now we're right back to everybody's happy to tweet.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
They wish Donald trumpet you know, that it's too bad
the guy wasn't a better shot and all this stuff.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
It's just when we do that, this is what we get. Yeah,
I agree.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I mean it was abhorrent some of some of the
comments coming out here after, you know, wishing that he'd
been killed and this and that. But like I said before,
you know, if they had succeeded that day, the fallout
would have been immense. And you know, when we're talking
about the intelligence who may or may not have been behind.

(35:41):
I mean, look, they've tried to crucify this guy for
the past eight years, you know, for when he was
in office, they never they didn't leave this guy alone
for a day, and ever since then, they've tried to
impeach him, ruin him financially, ruin him in a majority
of different ways, you know, criminally, take him through the courts,

(36:02):
and nothing. I mean, this was the, like I said,
the logical conclusion. That's why I say I wasn't surprised
to hear this, because they've tried to take him out
every other way except literally, and then that happens and
you're like, okay, well, why am I not surprised, you know,
and then all this weird stuff with Biden, you know,

(36:23):
wanting to step you know, I'm not I'm running. I
don't care what they say. And then all of a
sudden he's stepping down. And then it's just you're taking
democracy away from the people at this point. If you
don't like Trump, hey, go vote for the other guy.
You know, you don't like Biden, Hey, go vote for Trump.
You know, vote with your fingers instead of bullets.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
You know.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Well, certainly here on the Old Ip Frequently podcast that's
what we would advocate for.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
And Rob, again, we really appreciate.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
You taking anytime at all, particularly this much time with
us out of your schedule that to bat this around
a little bit and discuss it. We look forward to hearing,
you know, the feedback from our audience with respect to
what Rob has to say and just kind of you know,
where we are in America these days. And Rob, thanks
very much again. Folks will will tweet out Rob Clark

(37:18):
the Lone Gunman Podcast if you're interested in this sort
of thing. Rob does a great job with it, and
so make sure you drop by his podcast, give it
a listen, send him any questions you may have, and
Rob thanks again.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, well, thank you brand David for having me back on.
And we'll have to do it again in the.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Future, hopefully not because somebody else gets shot.

Speaker 6 (37:38):
Well, yes, let's just stick with the stories we have
at this point and we can dive into those.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, do you want to talk Martin's next time? We
can talk Martins.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
Well, we'll do that, Purple Martins, people named Martin, any
kind of Martins you want.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Well, Rob, that was absolutely terrific.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Brad, I know you and I are typically on the
same page, and I think here you and I are
both thinking we have to get Rob back in this
studio by the end of the year so we can
explore a little more about what is going on in
these eerie similarities between all these presidential killers with three names,
between the Trump attempted assassination and the Kennedy assassination, and

(38:18):
with respect to this whole Martin thing.

Speaker 7 (38:20):
Is we can see in this podcast there's a lot
of folks out there just right and they're angry at
each other, and they're angry at their neighbors. If you
have a turkey, you're angry at a convertible sports car.
If you read boneless chicken wings, you're angry at the
little bone that was in there, although you shouldn't be,

(38:40):
according to the Ohio courts.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
A lot of angle, and so you know, we need
to take a few steps back and you think about
where that leads, the leads to assassinations.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
One wants to be there. We got a sort of
take a deep breath of the country here.

Speaker 10 (38:57):
I recommend everyone do that lack a little bit, and
then we'll all gather again next week, as we do
every week, so hopefully relax and you know, just take
a better perspective on sports cars, chicken wings, vice presidential nominees.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
We'll discuss all of that next week right here, IP frequently.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
This has been IP frequently, once again, clearing a forest
of lies with the machete of truth. You're welcome.