November 1, 2025 • 20 mins
Spirituality, distinct from religion is a challenging topic because it can be a very importand part of religion in its pure form.
Respectfully discussing the spiritual nature of people without invading the realm of personal religious freedom or being perceived as been trying to convert someone to a sectarian religion is even more challenging.
If spirituality isn't necessarily religion, then what is it? How does it look, sound and feel like within the workplace? Let's explore in more depth.....
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The Power of NOW - Eckhart Tolle
https://rootsandbright.com/the-power-of-now-by-eckhart-tolle/
Dream Dare Dazzle
Respectfully discussing the spiritual nature of people without invading the realm of personal religious freedom or being perceived as been trying to convert someone to a sectarian religion is even more challenging.
If spirituality isn't necessarily religion, then what is it? How does it look, sound and feel like within the workplace? Let's explore in more depth.....
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The Power of NOW - Eckhart Tolle
https://rootsandbright.com/the-power-of-now-by-eckhart-tolle/
Dream Dare Dazzle
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello again everyone, and welcome back once more. So, how
did we get on last week? Looking at courage, looking
at assumptions? Did you get some nice insights to move forward?
Moving forward and looking at heart leadership? This week, I'd
(00:26):
like to talk about or exploring finding the fire within
ourselves and within organizations. And there's an intro to that
is part of you like this topic. I'd like to
lead into an area of what it's called spirituality? What
(00:50):
is it? What is that name, that terrimment we've heard
a lot of us have? Why is it that? Shall
we call them Joe's World are able to consistently get
their people to achieve them possible, Let's call them Teds
of the world, can hardly get their workers to continue
(01:13):
to accomplish even the more mundane usual work of the day,
if it is mundane in itself. Both are really committed
to helping their organizations achieve the potential that the envision
for them. Both are committed to do exactly what, let's
(01:37):
say the consultant encourages them to do. Yet try as
they may, the Teds of the world just can't seem
to pull their organizations together, the companies together. Some can
actually push push their organizations apart. I've been studying or
(01:58):
looking at this field of human factors well over thirty years,
worked in various companies in all parts of the world.
And let's say, what is answer. Although I intuitively knew
the answer had to do with leadership is a managed
(02:20):
before transformation. I've focused primarily on coming from the safety side,
on measurable, quantifiable behavioral aspects of management, and there's a
bit of that linking into leadership as well, more about
(02:41):
what people were doing. The more and more I've looked
over the years, the more and more contradictions have emerged,
And even nowadays I've been using I'm still exploring that
I've got this curiosity deep within and using artificial intelligence
(03:02):
just now and particularly some of the university databases smartle's
just putting the term human factors or leadership or safety. Wow,
we get a plethora of data sets and information I
found over the years. Often leaders appear to do the
(03:24):
same thing, same things, but get different results. Sometimes they
did different things but get the same results. One thing
was sure. Leaders who consistently achieve remarkable ends are able
to tap into the vitality, the spirit. It's within people
(03:48):
and within organizations almost effortlessly towards their goals. And I
guess over the years there's been many online let's call
them videos, YouTubers, books all that there. It's mentioning importance
(04:13):
of respecting the spiritual nature of people, particling companies that
were happy, healthy, innovated, quality, focused and productive, and also
the opposite of that. I've also read about the lack
of respect for the spiritual nature of people and codependent
(04:35):
and addictive organizations us as. I've mentioned the spiritual nature
of people, but they didn't really elaborate what that was
all about. I've been asking people what I thought might
be about this thing called spiritual nature, and I do that,
(04:58):
particularly with engine I get a kind of vague and
buddle puzzled looks. What it says, woo stuff you're talking about.
Some would recommend other books or podcasts. One organization consult said,
(05:19):
I work with spirituality in the workplace all the time,
they says, but I rarely use the word ah. Just
as I was being to play seriously with the idea
something is intangibly spirit maybe the component I was looking
(05:42):
for I was seeking, I was invited to work. Are
very fortunate and a company where spirit was everywhere. The leader,
may I say, embodied the characteristics of a leadership model
in the way that other clients hadn't. But there was
(06:02):
something more the way people interacted with each other, with
their customers and still maintained the bottom line and met
the bottom line. This company experienced phenomenal growth. A conductive
business that often carries negative overtones and a different positive
(06:25):
and particularly it's about people people focus away. What a
dynamic organization it was. I looked forward to each day
I was at the work site. What enthusiasm just oozing
out everywhere? And that comes from the Latin means inspired
(06:48):
by a god, and this work group, by gum, it
was inspired. They definitely had something special. They definitely had
that thing called sp it. No I, I didn't you
figure it out immediately? I was really show as an
(07:08):
engineer trying to figure out respecting the spiritual nature of
human beings. I have a problem. Give me a statement
and work from the statement. I seem to have been
observing it firsthand. It felt kind of good being there.
(07:29):
But at the end of the project, I just had
to reflect what I'd seen and felt, and I must
admit the we skeptics this, you know, person in the shoulder,
if you like the wee monkey finally gave up. It
(07:50):
was clear to me that spirit really was the key
in the workplace. Dynamism, you know, gets the energy, the
passion of zest going and I'd sought the source of creativity, health, quality, energy,
meaning and life. But it's also the simplistic of it.
(08:12):
It occurs naturally in every relationship, whether between two people
twenty two hundred, two thousand. All we have to do
is to discover the spirit buried underneath the rules, procedure, practices, organization, culture,
(08:34):
and personal barriers. So what is spirit? Spirit comes from
the Latin to breathe, spirit, bres life into each of us.
The First Dictionary definition of spirit is the vital principle
(08:55):
are animating force, traditionally believed to be within living beings.
These words about truly being alive and life is what
these companies are. Spirituality distinct from religion is a challenging
topic because it can be such an important part of
(09:20):
religion in its pure forum. Respectfully discussing the spiritual nature
of people in the workplace without invading the realm of
personal religious freedom or perceived shall we say, it's sectary
and religion is even more challenging. It's essential to my
(09:46):
spirit that I be open and most certainly respecting of
the spirits of others. I would hope them to be
the same about mine. Spiritual reality isn't necessarily a religion.
What is it? Some people you've heard this, I mentioned
(10:09):
it before, described a beautiful sunrise or sunset being spiritual nature.
I've experienced that in my younger years, done a lot
of mountaineering, and I've found that particularly at the tops
or a mountain precipice, and I've looked at the splendor
(10:35):
I've surrounded peaks and glens below. There's a place called
a Whangy lovely name that Whangy it. He overlooks the
north side of Glasgow and it's a classic rock climbing
so short probably be about let's see twenty meters about
(10:59):
sixty feet high. Loads of different roots up it. But
it's bonny there and a summer evening the rock is
warm and dry. That's where a lot of lads and
glasses from Glasgow go and practice for the big roots
up at glen Cole. Later. There's some people who can
(11:22):
feel a spiritual connection when they listen to great piece
of music. Others may feel like the birth of a child.
Spontaneous spiritual moments shed light in the world's orange and
and sprayer to breeze. Spiritual expecs cause us to gasp
(11:43):
for breath or give a heartfelt sigh when we feel
connection to something greater than ourselves. In the workplace, spirituality
may emerge when a particular worker or co worker offers
(12:04):
us just to help with an overwhelming project or or
sigh of relief. Fixed presses more than what we get
out from under all that work. It taps human connection, faith,
the job will be done right, a sense eye of community.
(12:25):
Spirituality maybe something as simple as feeling listened to attentively
active listening by a co worker who sincerely wants to
understand without judging. Spirit can be felt by people working
together so well, it's like breathing together. It's that dancing
(12:52):
in unison. Describing spirituality is a bit like wrestling with
a love of octopus. The closer we get to the animal,
the harder it is to embrace completely. Spirit Chance is
more a bit meaning than a bit definition. Definitions of
(13:14):
stuff are brains. Spirit chance isn't brain stuff. It's happened.
So stuff thoughts just getting our way towards their only symbols.
It's about feelings. Over a number of years I've got
(13:35):
I've acquired bits and pieces of understanding from other people. Ah,
and I've done a bit of meditation. It's helped me
to get out of my brain shut down in tangibles
and get access to the wisdom of ages, a part
of me that I've neglected for quite a while. Even now.
(13:59):
Though only thing I know for sure is that spirit
and spirituality you be somewhat different for every person. For
each person, yet I'm sure that people share many elements
and comment because the concept of spirituality outside of religious contexts,
(14:24):
it can be new to many people. But I'm going
to try and share what it means to me personally
and in the workplace. Spirit is something I am. I
experience more like a place than a thing. I could
(14:47):
share a lot about what it is like to me,
how I got there, where, and what I feel like
when I'm there. Yet until I'd been, I couldn't really
know what to experience. It may suggest to you the
journey to spirituality is personal until we take it. There
(15:10):
are two dimensional knowledge based brain has a hard time
that can cannie understand it conjuring the multi dimensional aspect
of wisdom and spirit. It's like trying to experience the vitality,
sounds and smells of Dubai being by watching a slide show,
(15:36):
particularly down at the marketplaces. As you wander about there,
the souks here, the noise, the bubble, the noise smells
of all the species, and the laughter. It's bonnie, it
(15:56):
really is. We may an idea of what we think
it may be like, but only when we've been here
can we know how different it is to experience the
real thing. Spirit is a place for me. When I'm there,
I know it. It's a place where I'm loving, peaceful, caring,
(16:18):
trusting and connected. It's a place where I'm hoping to
other people and different ideas, where I accept others as
they are, and where I'm respectful for particular our differences.
It's this place where I can see abundance of talent
and ideas and resources that we all can create. We
(16:41):
all have that capabilities. Although I describe my place of
spirit and qualities that describe my relationships with others living
from spirit, it's ultimately about relationship with ourselves, with self.
(17:02):
It's a feeling of content, being full within myself, that
there are none of the neediness that prevails and shall
we call it the path of fear? Who we're looking
for others to fill us with approval, lust, trust, caring
and connection. When I am full of spirit, I've all
(17:23):
I needed and plenty to give to others. My place
of spirit, I'm inspiring to others and aspiring for myself.
It's a place where I'm creative and I accept my intuitions,
my gut feelings. When I'm in this place I call spirit,
(17:45):
I have completely believe in myself and the rest of humanity.
I see an abundant world full of win win relationships
rather than this bang buying competitive world of wind lose
a friend of the world that wants me and everyone
else to win. Spirit it's a place where I'm totally
(18:11):
present and focusing on who I am and what I'm
doing in this moment. It's living. It characterally talks about
living in the now. It's about unwilling to lose even
one instance to live in the past of the future.
(18:35):
I'm kinda filled with wonder, a wee bit enthusiasm, pace, joy, playful.
It's a players. Well, I know whatever I do is
a gift for me and others, at the very least,
a gift of learning. It's a place where I can fear,
I can only grow. It's a place where I face
(18:55):
fear openly consciously. But I'm not a friend of courage.
I'm safe within myself completely. Spirit is something I am,
not something I do. When I am my spirit, I'm
really aware of I forget. I've got a unique purpose
(19:19):
in life and my soul. I know there's a particular
reason for being on this planet. We don't need to
compete amongst ourselves. Each of us has a different purpose
here on Earth. It's like a big, big, complex mosaic,
(19:40):
with each add to the richness, and without any one
of us, the missing contributions leaves a hole where our
work was meant to be. When I am my spirit,
I find meaning from achieving my special purpose in helping
others to achieve their ruin work bridges a critical gap
(20:05):
between the spiritual and rational in each of us, a
gap that's continuously seeking wholeness and completion. Spirit is a
fire within each of us that ignites us with passion, purpose,
loving energy, and courage. The fire dwells in each of
us and sets as a blaze when we're near a
work not merely a job or career, but a personal
(20:29):
calling or purpose. That's what we'll look at next week.
I'll explore the fire within. Until then, live life with passion.
Good buying it.
Hello again everyone, and welcome back once more. So, how
did we get on last week? Looking at courage, looking
at assumptions? Did you get some nice insights to move forward?
Moving forward and looking at heart leadership? This week, I'd
(00:26):
like to talk about or exploring finding the fire within
ourselves and within organizations. And there's an intro to that
is part of you like this topic. I'd like to
lead into an area of what it's called spirituality? What
(00:50):
is it? What is that name, that terrimment we've heard
a lot of us have? Why is it that? Shall
we call them Joe's World are able to consistently get
their people to achieve them possible, Let's call them Teds
of the world, can hardly get their workers to continue
(01:13):
to accomplish even the more mundane usual work of the day,
if it is mundane in itself. Both are really committed
to helping their organizations achieve the potential that the envision
for them. Both are committed to do exactly what, let's
(01:37):
say the consultant encourages them to do. Yet try as
they may, the Teds of the world just can't seem
to pull their organizations together, the companies together. Some can
actually push push their organizations apart. I've been studying or
(01:58):
looking at this field of human factors well over thirty years,
worked in various companies in all parts of the world.
And let's say, what is answer. Although I intuitively knew
the answer had to do with leadership is a managed
(02:20):
before transformation. I've focused primarily on coming from the safety side,
on measurable, quantifiable behavioral aspects of management, and there's a
bit of that linking into leadership as well, more about
(02:41):
what people were doing. The more and more I've looked
over the years, the more and more contradictions have emerged,
And even nowadays I've been using I'm still exploring that
I've got this curiosity deep within and using artificial intelligence
(03:02):
just now and particularly some of the university databases smartle's
just putting the term human factors or leadership or safety. Wow,
we get a plethora of data sets and information I
found over the years. Often leaders appear to do the
(03:24):
same thing, same things, but get different results. Sometimes they
did different things but get the same results. One thing
was sure. Leaders who consistently achieve remarkable ends are able
to tap into the vitality, the spirit. It's within people
(03:48):
and within organizations almost effortlessly towards their goals. And I
guess over the years there's been many online let's call
them videos, YouTubers, books all that there. It's mentioning importance
(04:13):
of respecting the spiritual nature of people, particling companies that
were happy, healthy, innovated, quality, focused and productive, and also
the opposite of that. I've also read about the lack
of respect for the spiritual nature of people and codependent
(04:35):
and addictive organizations us as. I've mentioned the spiritual nature
of people, but they didn't really elaborate what that was
all about. I've been asking people what I thought might
be about this thing called spiritual nature, and I do that,
(04:58):
particularly with engine I get a kind of vague and
buddle puzzled looks. What it says, woo stuff you're talking about.
Some would recommend other books or podcasts. One organization consult said,
(05:19):
I work with spirituality in the workplace all the time,
they says, but I rarely use the word ah. Just
as I was being to play seriously with the idea
something is intangibly spirit maybe the component I was looking
(05:42):
for I was seeking, I was invited to work. Are
very fortunate and a company where spirit was everywhere. The leader,
may I say, embodied the characteristics of a leadership model
in the way that other clients hadn't. But there was
(06:02):
something more the way people interacted with each other, with
their customers and still maintained the bottom line and met
the bottom line. This company experienced phenomenal growth. A conductive
business that often carries negative overtones and a different positive
(06:25):
and particularly it's about people people focus away. What a
dynamic organization it was. I looked forward to each day
I was at the work site. What enthusiasm just oozing
out everywhere? And that comes from the Latin means inspired
(06:48):
by a god, and this work group, by gum, it
was inspired. They definitely had something special. They definitely had
that thing called sp it. No I, I didn't you
figure it out immediately? I was really show as an
(07:08):
engineer trying to figure out respecting the spiritual nature of
human beings. I have a problem. Give me a statement
and work from the statement. I seem to have been
observing it firsthand. It felt kind of good being there.
(07:29):
But at the end of the project, I just had
to reflect what I'd seen and felt, and I must
admit the we skeptics this, you know, person in the shoulder,
if you like the wee monkey finally gave up. It
(07:50):
was clear to me that spirit really was the key
in the workplace. Dynamism, you know, gets the energy, the
passion of zest going and I'd sought the source of creativity, health, quality, energy,
meaning and life. But it's also the simplistic of it.
(08:12):
It occurs naturally in every relationship, whether between two people
twenty two hundred, two thousand. All we have to do
is to discover the spirit buried underneath the rules, procedure, practices, organization, culture,
(08:34):
and personal barriers. So what is spirit? Spirit comes from
the Latin to breathe, spirit, bres life into each of us.
The First Dictionary definition of spirit is the vital principle
(08:55):
are animating force, traditionally believed to be within living beings.
These words about truly being alive and life is what
these companies are. Spirituality distinct from religion is a challenging
topic because it can be such an important part of
(09:20):
religion in its pure forum. Respectfully discussing the spiritual nature
of people in the workplace without invading the realm of
personal religious freedom or perceived shall we say, it's sectary
and religion is even more challenging. It's essential to my
(09:46):
spirit that I be open and most certainly respecting of
the spirits of others. I would hope them to be
the same about mine. Spiritual reality isn't necessarily a religion.
What is it? Some people you've heard this, I mentioned
(10:09):
it before, described a beautiful sunrise or sunset being spiritual nature.
I've experienced that in my younger years, done a lot
of mountaineering, and I've found that particularly at the tops
or a mountain precipice, and I've looked at the splendor
(10:35):
I've surrounded peaks and glens below. There's a place called
a Whangy lovely name that Whangy it. He overlooks the
north side of Glasgow and it's a classic rock climbing
so short probably be about let's see twenty meters about
(10:59):
sixty feet high. Loads of different roots up it. But
it's bonny there and a summer evening the rock is
warm and dry. That's where a lot of lads and
glasses from Glasgow go and practice for the big roots
up at glen Cole. Later. There's some people who can
(11:22):
feel a spiritual connection when they listen to great piece
of music. Others may feel like the birth of a child.
Spontaneous spiritual moments shed light in the world's orange and
and sprayer to breeze. Spiritual expecs cause us to gasp
(11:43):
for breath or give a heartfelt sigh when we feel
connection to something greater than ourselves. In the workplace, spirituality
may emerge when a particular worker or co worker offers
(12:04):
us just to help with an overwhelming project or or
sigh of relief. Fixed presses more than what we get
out from under all that work. It taps human connection, faith,
the job will be done right, a sense eye of community.
(12:25):
Spirituality maybe something as simple as feeling listened to attentively
active listening by a co worker who sincerely wants to
understand without judging. Spirit can be felt by people working
together so well, it's like breathing together. It's that dancing
(12:52):
in unison. Describing spirituality is a bit like wrestling with
a love of octopus. The closer we get to the animal,
the harder it is to embrace completely. Spirit Chance is
more a bit meaning than a bit definition. Definitions of
(13:14):
stuff are brains. Spirit chance isn't brain stuff. It's happened.
So stuff thoughts just getting our way towards their only symbols.
It's about feelings. Over a number of years I've got
(13:35):
I've acquired bits and pieces of understanding from other people. Ah,
and I've done a bit of meditation. It's helped me
to get out of my brain shut down in tangibles
and get access to the wisdom of ages, a part
of me that I've neglected for quite a while. Even now.
(13:59):
Though only thing I know for sure is that spirit
and spirituality you be somewhat different for every person. For
each person, yet I'm sure that people share many elements
and comment because the concept of spirituality outside of religious contexts,
(14:24):
it can be new to many people. But I'm going
to try and share what it means to me personally
and in the workplace. Spirit is something I am. I
experience more like a place than a thing. I could
(14:47):
share a lot about what it is like to me,
how I got there, where, and what I feel like
when I'm there. Yet until I'd been, I couldn't really
know what to experience. It may suggest to you the
journey to spirituality is personal until we take it. There
(15:10):
are two dimensional knowledge based brain has a hard time
that can cannie understand it conjuring the multi dimensional aspect
of wisdom and spirit. It's like trying to experience the vitality,
sounds and smells of Dubai being by watching a slide show,
(15:36):
particularly down at the marketplaces. As you wander about there,
the souks here, the noise, the bubble, the noise smells
of all the species, and the laughter. It's bonnie, it
(15:56):
really is. We may an idea of what we think
it may be like, but only when we've been here
can we know how different it is to experience the
real thing. Spirit is a place for me. When I'm there,
I know it. It's a place where I'm loving, peaceful, caring,
(16:18):
trusting and connected. It's a place where I'm hoping to
other people and different ideas, where I accept others as
they are, and where I'm respectful for particular our differences.
It's this place where I can see abundance of talent
and ideas and resources that we all can create. We
(16:41):
all have that capabilities. Although I describe my place of
spirit and qualities that describe my relationships with others living
from spirit, it's ultimately about relationship with ourselves, with self.
(17:02):
It's a feeling of content, being full within myself, that
there are none of the neediness that prevails and shall
we call it the path of fear? Who we're looking
for others to fill us with approval, lust, trust, caring
and connection. When I am full of spirit, I've all
(17:23):
I needed and plenty to give to others. My place
of spirit, I'm inspiring to others and aspiring for myself.
It's a place where I'm creative and I accept my intuitions,
my gut feelings. When I'm in this place I call spirit,
(17:45):
I have completely believe in myself and the rest of humanity.
I see an abundant world full of win win relationships
rather than this bang buying competitive world of wind lose
a friend of the world that wants me and everyone
else to win. Spirit it's a place where I'm totally
(18:11):
present and focusing on who I am and what I'm
doing in this moment. It's living. It characterally talks about
living in the now. It's about unwilling to lose even
one instance to live in the past of the future.
(18:35):
I'm kinda filled with wonder, a wee bit enthusiasm, pace, joy, playful.
It's a players. Well, I know whatever I do is
a gift for me and others, at the very least,
a gift of learning. It's a place where I can fear,
I can only grow. It's a place where I face
(18:55):
fear openly consciously. But I'm not a friend of courage.
I'm safe within myself completely. Spirit is something I am,
not something I do. When I am my spirit, I'm
really aware of I forget. I've got a unique purpose
(19:19):
in life and my soul. I know there's a particular
reason for being on this planet. We don't need to
compete amongst ourselves. Each of us has a different purpose
here on Earth. It's like a big, big, complex mosaic,
(19:40):
with each add to the richness, and without any one
of us, the missing contributions leaves a hole where our
work was meant to be. When I am my spirit,
I find meaning from achieving my special purpose in helping
others to achieve their ruin work bridges a critical gap
(20:05):
between the spiritual and rational in each of us, a
gap that's continuously seeking wholeness and completion. Spirit is a
fire within each of us that ignites us with passion, purpose,
loving energy, and courage. The fire dwells in each of
us and sets as a blaze when we're near a
work not merely a job or career, but a personal
(20:29):
calling or purpose. That's what we'll look at next week.
I'll explore the fire within. Until then, live life with passion.
Good buying it.
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