September 13, 2023 • 53 mins
It is I. Julie. Returning to the podcast after being away from the mic for 3 months. Inviting me, inviting you, as I return, to wonder, to welcome, to notice what and to whom you are returning. What and who did I leave? What is here now that wasn't previously?
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Hello everyone, and welcome to Juliein conversation. It's so nice to be
here with you today, September thirteenth, twenty twenty three. Welcome. Whether
you're tuning in live or through thearchives through your downloads, it's always a
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perfect and right time maybe receive whatit is you need to receive, and
what it is you didn't even knowthat you needed. Inviting you to breathe,
Notice your breath, take that extralong exhale. Perhaps maybe now's a
good time for that. Shall wedo it together. I've been away from
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a podcast, from this mic formore than I intended to be. I
never know what that what that lookslike these days. But it's been three
months since I recorded my last podcast, so it feels good to be here.
I've been nervous to come back.I've been reluctant, I've been excited.
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I've been ready, or so Ithought. I've been ready a few
weeks ago, and finally here Iam. I had some content prepared,
but I'm going to be sharing thatnext week today with the with some with
some gentle coaxing or support from afriend, Nicole Shiner, you know who
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you are. I think a simplere entry is in store for me today
with you, so thanks for tuningin. I'm joining you today from so
called Canada. I'm in Montreal,which is known as Montreal, which is
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Joe Chage. I am acknowledging thelends from which I am broadcasting from and
grateful to be doing so, honoringand acknowledging the curators and stewards of the
land of the gnejog Haga nation andall those nations who have served and taking
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care of this land and continue totaking a moment to acknowledge where I sit,
where I stand, and where Ibreathe, and where are you?
Who are you wanting to acknowledge?Those are those that you know, those
you know not of your own ancestors, your family, your parents, perhaps
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known or unknown. Your body pulsating, vibrating, moving, just noticing the
body that you're in. Maybe I'mstretching right now. Maybe you're feeling called
to move in some way or justbring attention to some area that's calling you.
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So just taking this time to acknowledgeacknowledgment. How does the power of
acknowledgement show up for you in yourday to day life? What do you
acknowledge in yourself and others, inthings you use, in foods you consume,
in media, that you notice,in people that you touch or that
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touch you, that impact you.So just breathing into this together, acknowledging,
grateful to be here with you rightnow. So I was feeling there's
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some content that I want to sharenext week, which is a great impactful
experience that I had over the courseof four months participating in the Embodied Social
Justice Certificate program led by Reverend KyoKyoto Angel Williams, and part of our
final project, we had to createto create something from our experience, and
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what I created well was a cocreation with another participant in the program who
I will be sharing with you nextweek, Flavia Jimenez. My conversation with
her. I'll be featuring and sharingour video podcast and our audio conversation around
our insights and takeaways from what wegain from participating and Embodied Social Justice Justice
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with so many mind blowing instructors,and so I'll be sharing that next week
with some more details about that program. But today I'm just going to be
sharing myself and tuning into myself andas I do that, just noticing what
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the return feels like. What happenswhen you return from somewhere or to something,
And maybe you have something in mindthat you're thinking about our direct experience
that you know about, but whatis it like to return? What do
you leave and what do you comeback to? And who are you returning
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to when you return? So again, thank you Nicole Shiner for reflecting back
to me what I know, butwhat I needed to hear today, which
was, why don't you just geton your podcast to share what you do
so well and beautifully and keep itshort and notice that what energizes you and
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if it does energize you, thengo for it. And so she just
put into words all these feelings thatI was having but was so helpful to
hear them. So thank you NicoleShiner, who actually, you know,
if you've been listening to this podcast, she is a registered psychotherapist, contributing
author and really a valuable source ofinsight psychological wisdom and a wonderful companion to
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create an upcoming offering that we areboth going to be sharing coming soon,
And I just wanted to let youknow the preview to this program which is
coming in November. The doors willopen soon to jump in. But right
now, we're creating a waiting list, so if you're called to join our
online program, which will take placeover the course of November, then please
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send me an email or find meon social media and send me a direct
message. The title relates to whatwe've been talking about on our podcast,
which is caring without carrying it all, and the tagline a soft place to
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land and honor your sensitivity andcity andcapacity. Caring without carrying it all,
soft place to land and honor yoursensitivity and capacity. Why can't I say
that word capacity. It's a mixtureof compassion and capacity. Maybe I've just
created a new word, or I'msourcing from a word that's already been created
and I like. So it'll takeplace over four sessions. It'll be on
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Thursdays from twelve to one thirty pm, and we will be spacing it out
a little bit to allow for integration, no rushing, and to allow you
to feel seen, welcomed, heard, connect with others of like mind,
and be supported by myself coach,consultant, facilitator and Nicole psychotherapist. This
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will not be therapy, but itwill be received, created, supported by
the wisdom and experience of Nicole,who's a therapist, an author and a
highly resourceful woman, and so I'mreally excited about that. So space is
limited, we do have space.Would love to welcome you wherever you are
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tuning in from. You are welcome, whether it's in Canada, the US,
the African continent, Europe. Ithink time zones might allow for a
little bit farther east. But Iwelcome you, and we welcome you and
stay tuned for more of that caringwithout carrying it all. And a lot
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of my work also is deeply influencedby a Laine friend who's been on the
podcast, who is an expert onhigh sensitivity, and so her work will
also be I'll be standing on theshoulders of a Lane friend and the work
that I've learned through her and welcomeyou to join us. So please do
so. Send me an email Julieat Julie kusemaryu dot com, or go
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to Julianconversation dot com, or findme on social media at Julie cause marry
you. So what's happening today foryou? Where are how are you?
What are you needing? I've noticedI've talked about this often again, Nicole
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reminded me of this. This ismy space. The podcast energizes me.
It is my sacred place, andI notice it more and more even today,
like just coming to this place andagain being able to prioritize this time
and protect this time, and whatit takes to do that is not so
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obvious, and I could feel somefatigue around that, like it's like lifting
weights, which I like doing,but lifting like extra weights to make this
happen. When there's a sense ofvulnerability too, It's like, this is
my time, and this is whereI can tune in to myself, even
though I'm doing it publicly. It'salso this place where I can give myself
that permission to do so. Thisis my art, this is my expression,
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and so there's a lot at stake. When I turn the mic on
and I press record, what's goingto come out? And so thank you
for sharing and indulging with me inthis space. What does it take for
you to have that time, tohave that protective time, that creative time,
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that time for your artistry, thattime for your own prioritizing. And
then I also noticed as Nicole wasreminding me, just do the thing,
you know, It's what I heardis like, but it has to be
perfect and I have to deliver thecontent that I was thinking of of sharing
today and I want to have toedit some music into that. And do
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I have enough time amidst you know, this whole reintegration, back to school,
back to a regular routine, andit's not going to be ready because
my podcast goes live at too,and I want to stick to that.
And so all of this is makingsense, and I'm just showing up here
right now with all the stuff tosay, Welcome back, Julie, and
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welcome back to you listener, dearfriend, dear listener to the podcast,
if you're listening, if you're liveor at another time in the near future,
welcome back to this experience with me. Let me know what you're gaining,
what you're wanting to hear. AndI'm just honoring what it's like to
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return. And is there an expectationthat I'm returning a new more wise more
experiences. I've been off for threemonths. What did I acquire? I
think it's, if anything, it'sbeen more of a letting go. It's
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been summer for me here in Montrealand my kids. I've been mostly home
somewhat in camp. Here in Montreal, high school starts in grade seven,
and so my older son, who'stwelve, just started high school and my
younger son is in grade four.So that's been a transition. And I
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took some time off this summer.Three weeks I took off from my schedule.
It was very busy July working andthen I took off most of August
and I was off pretty much withmy kids. And then we went away
for a week as a family.We went to Vermont. We went to
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Boston, yes, Vermont's estate.Boston is a city in Massachusetts. We
went to visit the Basketball Hall ofFame, and then we stayed in Boston
for a couple of nights, andthen we came back to Vermont and came
back to Montreal. And yeah,and then I had a profound experience over
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the weekend, having carved out sometime to leave home for four days.
We're not talking like three months,but four days, three nights, Thursday,
Friday, Saturday night, and I'vebeen ready to go away again.
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If you've listened to the podcast,maybe you've heard me talk about some trips,
some retreats, some conferences, sometraveling, and I think it's been
over two or three years that I'veleft the nest, so to speak,
with the pandemic with some moving changesand transitions, just realizing and noticing,
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I mean knowing it all along,but just really noticing and feeling and saying
it out loud that I have nothad the opportunity nor privilege to go away.
And my mother, who's a fulltime amazing woman in my life and
also she's a caregiver to her husbandof nineteen years, has been saying that
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she wants to go to the treesand get away, and so we came
together and figured out a great tripthat was unexpected. I was feeling like
I wanted a retreat and to goaway, and so we put our creativity
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together and out came a beautiful experiencewhich was going to Cropalu Institute. I
don't think it's an institute, Cropalu. It's sent her for yoga and well
being. I've been there quite afew times. It's sort of been my
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refuge when I'm feeling like I needsomewhere to go to lend softly, to
feel inspired and empowered. It's beena saving grace for me. Thankfully,
privilege has brought me to know thatplace well an opportunity, and I never
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imagined that I would be able toshare it with my mother. Though she's
interested in many things, we sharesimilar interests. I wasn't sure that this
place would be something that would callher, but it invited her in and
so we were there together and itwas a beautiful experience. We were privileged
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to see Elizabeth Gilbert, author ofEat, Pray, Love, and Big
Magic, Creative Living Beyond Fear,and we also heard the amazing doctor Tera
ray Trent, who has a book, many books, but one of them
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is called The Awakened Woman, AGuide from Remembering and Igniting your Sacred Dreams.
Elizabeth invited doctor Tara ray Trent tojoin her for the weekend, and
she's one of Oprah's favorite guests.I mean, she's just an incredible woman.
But they both are incredible women.Doctor Terra ray Trent is from Zimbabwe,
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has an incredible story, is incrediblehuman and I was treated to the
wisdom of these women and the otherwomen who gathered, treated to being with
my mother, treating to being withmyself. And I'm still unpacking the weekend
and what it meant to me andjust came back a couple of days ago,
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and so I'm wanting to protect thatintegration time. And so I'm just
speaking to it as coming back thereturn, as I also returned to the
podcast. Who is it that I'mreturning to? What am I returning from?
How does a return speak to you? Is there expectation upon a return
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to produce, to create, tobe something different, to be something new,
to offer something? And who didI leave on Thursday afternoon? Aside
from the people in my household,kids, husband, Who did I leave
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of myself when I embarked on threenights away? And who did I return
to? What happens when you leave, whether it's the house in the morning,
your apartment off to greet a newexperience. What happens when you open?
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You let your heart be touched andmoved. I mean this might sound
obvious and cliche, but of courseI was able to meet myself, to
meet my resistance in opening to myself. I met that when I was away.
It's like, no, I willnot feel I will not give into
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this, I will not open.I've been closed for however many months or
years, it felt like, andhere's an opportunity to experience something new and
to open to new people, tomyself without responsibilities that I experienced daily of
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feeding mouths that are hungry throughout theday. By working by all those demands
and responsibilities that I normally attend tendto. I didn't have those for four
days. So what then? What'sthere? Who's there when those priorities fade?
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So of course I was able tomeet myself and even that was enough.
It's like I've just created this timefor myself. Just getting away.
Of course, as people know,takes time, effort, organization, details,
planning, availability, there's expectation.Okay, let the change happen.
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I need to feel what this isall worth doing for. I need to
know what I'm getting here. Andso I felt some of that. It's
like it's not happening yet. I'mnot changed and transformed into this new,
highly expressive, open, flexible,pleasure filled woman. Yet you know,
and and so be it. It'sgentle. It's much more gentle than that
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Julie one. I'm i Crpollo.I love to engage as well. It's
like going all out. It's likethey have all these healing arts experiences you
can get like body treatments, somassage, reflexology, ierovertic treatments. They
also have metaphysical treatments and sessions,and so I engaged in a Tarot reading
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which was so good, and aKashak record reading and just really indulged in
my senses, my spiritual sense,my physical sense, emotional sense. They
have the best food, which isthere's you know, meat options, but
I love the vegan vegetarian options,and it was dreamy to just have food
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that I could put on my platethat was available and fresh and beautifully taken
care of and offered so much gratitudefor that experience. This is not an
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endorsement for Cropollu, though I haveno problem endorsing them. It has been
a great healing refuge for me andas it turns out, for my mother.
She's given me permission to share howhealing it was for her for us
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to be together, but also forher to have her space and replenish and
remember herself as a caregiver that shehas been to put that down for four
days. What do you need toput down? Is there something you can
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put down? Do you need tocall on some resources? We had to
call in. My in laws wereable to help out and be with my
children. It's not always obvious,doesn't always feel like this is going to
be the best alternative or answer orbe easy for everyone. But what is
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it that you might have to stretchinto to give yourself some time so that
you can return to you, sothat you can meet you without all the
added extra stuff responsibilities to do,roles and responsibilities just feel right, that
fits so well? But what happenswhen you try something else on? It
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almost felt like that when I wasaway. It's like I'm putting on this
new piece of clothing that doesn't fitso well, so right, so easily,
right away. But as the weekendprogressed, it became softer, It
found its right place on my body. It began feeling nurturing and protective and
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soft. I saw that myself opento the experience. When I woke up
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Monday morning, after having arrived Sundayevening, I was in that post retreat,
leave me alone space, bubble zone. Don't interrupt me, don't tell
me what to do, don't askme anything. Let me just float here,
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let me just be where I am, allow it to fall to land,
to integrate. Everything felt much morefierce in terms of my space and
my boundaries, and setting things newand fresh, and protecting my time and
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making sure to have and protect thetime. I mean, these are not
new topics that I'm talking about.It's like the spiral, come again,
around and around, return again andagain, and yet how can it strengthen,
show up differently, serve me nowin different ways? And so I've
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been putting things in place to makesure that I have space, more space
than I had before. Instead ofbeing home every evening as I normally am,
same routine, welcoming, being withthe kids, school, dinner,
homework, how do I get anevening off right imagine too, or out
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doing something for myself? Little thingsabout this with Nicole, and we brought
up the work of ev Rotsky,fair play, the truth of it all,
and so just living it in thesense of I will I know I
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won't return to where I was,But as I return, what am I
looking towards? I find myself repeatingthese words when I'm speaking to friends or
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family about how the experience was.I felt like it put me back on
track, that I was able toreorient, like I was somehow pulled in
another direction. It's like, youknow, if I would imagine a group
of people calling my attention, Julieover here. We're over here, Julie.
I'm like, I'm coming, Isee you. And instead, I'm
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now like pulling away from that experienceand I'm moving back towards the track,
Like if I'm on this road thathas my name on it, it's Julie,
we're calling you this way, andit's not people, but it's the
invisible calling me that way. Andso I feel like I've been reoriented towards
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that. Whatever you might experience thatas spirit calling. They use the word
a lot this weekend. Spirit,whether it's intuition, spirit, God,
the invisible, the unconscious, thecollective conscious, the divine, on local
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intelligence. So I feel like thereturn has allowed me to return towards orientation
that's inviting me towards it. It'sonly I who can be oriented towards that
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because it is the orientation that hasmy frequency on it. And so,
how are you feeling about the orientationthat has your frequency on it? Are
you aligned to that orientation? Whatwould that feel like to be aligned towards
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your orientation? Orientation to you andwhat you're moving towards are being called to
or towards and so there was alot that happened this weekend that was quite
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empowering and very profound from the speakers, from Elizabeth and doctor Tera Ray Trent,
just as women what they've moved throughadversity, each differently, they're brilliance
being connected to a community of otherwomen and finding my place in that or
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just noticing my place in that,and the importance of having and listening and
being in the space to be inspiredby women with deep meaning and beautiful value.
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Use. I actually had never readany of Elizabeth Gilbert's books, nor
have I really followed her. Isaw the movie, and so I had
no expectations really of the weekend.I knew that I would that I really
wanted to see them and specifically doctorterror Ay Trent, and so that was
beautiful to be in the space oflow expectation, ready to be inspired,
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moved, open to what's possible,and so it for surpassed my expectations.
It's like, may you receive whatit is you need and what it if
you didn't even know you needed.That's what happened. I'm still getting it,
still landing a gift that keeps ongiving. So maybe we can connect
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to this place for each of us, for those who connect to this idea
of returning, whether it's returning backto yourself, back from a trip,
back from a destination, back fromanything, returning to September again, or
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whatever month or day you're in,returning to a Monday after a weekend,
returning to the grind, let's say, or returning to our relationship to your
work. So if you want toclose your eyes or you can keep them
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open, but just inviting this inwardreflection to notice what's happening internally, the
return, even that word return,how does that feel in your body?
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Did you have to leave to return? And is there a consciousness required to
return, like embarking on a riteof passage, leaving one identity and returning
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as another. How do our experienceshelp change or inform or transform us?
A simple weekend may not be sosimple. What if we bring consciousness to
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what we leave behind, even ifit's the week or the day. If
we bring connection to our experiences andwe wake up each day new, returning
to self to begin new, Whatdoes it feel like when you have the
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opportunity to return to yourself, tomeet yourself, to be with yourself.
What I noticed when I left forthis retreat weekend was that there were a
piece of me that needed to bemet again, waiting to be picked up
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because it had been overlooked. Otherparts of been occupied. And so it's
like a reclaiming of those parts,that piece that I was able to reconnect
to and feel and remember. Andso when I returned, that piece came
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online again, that piece that canreorb me where I can be attuned to
what's calling me to move towards.So what's what's coming online for you?
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When you invite yourself to orient toyou, to return to you, to
be with you without the expectations,with daily expectations, the roles and responsibilities,
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even for just moments, to imaginewhat you might feel, where you
might go, what might be callingyou hm, and what would it take
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to let yourself walk towards it Asyou feel yourself expanding, opening to who
you are, to who you arenow, just breathe into yourself, feeling
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your body, feeling the ground beneathyour feet, feeling the lightness in you,
the weightlessness that is with you andwas with you when you left and
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when you now have returned, comingin contact with the invisible nature of you,
allowing the light of you, thedepth of you, the feelings that
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are you in you to be sensedand to be taken in, and allowing
them to move you. What areyou moving towards? What do you see?
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What do you feel? What doyou need to move to feel supported?
To have this time to fully orientand align with yourself and your nature.
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What happens when you do that.Just noticing your breath, your body,
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and noticing, noticing where you arein your mind and your heart what
you need if that's surfacing, andwhere you're going. And thank you for
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inquiring and wondering and going where yougo. There's so much to share about
what I heard over the weekend.One of the meaningful takeaways from this weekend
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doctor terror Ay Trent, who grewup in a village in Zimbabwe. By
the time she was eighteen, hadgiven birth to four children, and she
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grew up in a cattle herding familyin rural Zimbabwe. There was no running
water, She had no education,but she had many dreams. She was
a victim of abuse, colonialism,patriarchy, and her dream was to come
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to America and get her bachelor's degree, her master's degree, and her PhD.
And she did, and her grandmotherand her mother who encouraged her and
supported her dreams. I mean,her whole story is just phenomenal, and
I'm just touching the surface of it. But her mother said to her,
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because she talked about her dreams,having four dreams, going to America getting
her bachelor's degree, third dream wasgetting her master's and the fourth was her
PhD. And then her mother saidto her, your dreams are not yet
complete. They will be complete whenyou describe the dream that shares how you
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will contribute to the collective, toyour community, when you take your dreams
and offer that to the greater good. And so she added a fifth,
which was to bring education back toher community, and she did with the
help of Oprah. And so Ithought that was I mean kind of even
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begin to describe her wisdom and power. But the beauty of having our dreams
for ourselves and then bringing them outinto the world, it's very powerful.
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The awakened woman a guide from rememberingand igniting your sacred dreams. I'd love
to have her on the podcast oneday, just putting that out there for
me to hear. For her tohear, perhaps, when the time is
right, believe in your dreams.She definitely introduced me to or reintroduced me
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to dreaming and believing and having dreams, knowing what it takes. So where
are you dreaming? Where are youbeing oriented towards? Are you dreaming?
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The weekend reminded me to dream again. I wasn't expecting that, and so
I say a deep thank you anda deep bow to doctor Terin Ray Trent,
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and to Elizabeth Gilbert, to mymother, to Corplu, to the
people that held up all the responsibilitiesand caretaking while I was away, all
that was necessary so that I canreturn to me, And so as I
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can return to me, I canalso return to everyone else what it is
that I am wanting to do andcreating it enabled me to show up here
and do a podcast. It's whatit takes sometimes often right, what does
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it take? I have many unseenplaces in me that keep me in the
roles and responsibilities day to day withouttaking a pause or looking at my orientation.
And these three days, these threenights, enabled me to do that.
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Just the beginning of my leaving andreturning, I'll be doing it more
non negotiables right for as long asI can control that, That's what I'm
signing up for. What about you, what are your non negotiables? Where
are you facing? What are youorienting to? What's calling you these days?
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Right now? If you want asoft place to lend, a place
to be supported, a place tobe honored for your sensitivity and your capacity
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as a change maker, as ahealer, as a caregiver, then consider
joining Nicole and I for our upcomingprogram caring without carrying it all, a
soft place to lend to honor yoursensitivity and capacity or copacity. Send me
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an email, find me on theweb. Would love to have you join
us. We will do some dancing. There will be some guided visualization,
some nervous system education and talking throughunpacking sensitivity. Place for you to meet
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others. Virtually you will be bathedin the wisdom of Nicole Shiner and welcome
by me. So see if thatresonates, And if it does, I
would love to welcome you. Andif you know somebody who may resonate with,
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send it their way as well.All right, everybody, thanks for
the return. Welcome. I seeyou returning being you. That's all we
can be is ourselves right, nosmall task, but it is our job.
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So I support you and honor youand being you, orienting to you
to who and what is calling you. And if you don't know or are
disconnected from that, there's always away to return, and maybe it's just
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being curious about that return. Thankyou for listening today to me, and
may you find a place in youwhere this is moving you to be with
you as always and to see howyou are contributing to the greater good,
the collective, always in connection withour intuition, that innercompass moving us through
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through the deep waters, through themud, through the dry earth, thanks
to our sense that knows that canhelp lead us, even if it's just
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for the right next step. Usuallythat's what it is. Right. We
always want to see far, farinto the distance, but actually if you
can just zoom in a little bit, it's easier to see that and to
listen and to hear. So mayyou let your intuition lead. I'll be
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back next week with some content andtalking another wonderful, insightful human who will
share with me our reflections on theembodied Social Justice Certificate experience. And I'll
be coming back for more throughout thisseason, voices that create change. I
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haven't officially declared it the new season, but it's just the word that's coming
to me now, A new season. All right, everyone, thanks for
being here, being you. Youlet your intuition lead, and see you
next time. Cheers,
Hello everyone, and welcome to Juliein conversation. It's so nice to be
here with you today, September thirteenth, twenty twenty three. Welcome. Whether
you're tuning in live or through thearchives through your downloads, it's always a
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perfect and right time maybe receive whatit is you need to receive, and
what it is you didn't even knowthat you needed. Inviting you to breathe,
Notice your breath, take that extralong exhale. Perhaps maybe now's a
good time for that. Shall wedo it together. I've been away from
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a podcast, from this mic formore than I intended to be. I
never know what that what that lookslike these days. But it's been three
months since I recorded my last podcast, so it feels good to be here.
I've been nervous to come back.I've been reluctant, I've been excited.
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I've been ready, or so Ithought. I've been ready a few
weeks ago, and finally here Iam. I had some content prepared,
but I'm going to be sharing thatnext week today with the with some with
some gentle coaxing or support from afriend, Nicole Shiner, you know who
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you are. I think a simplere entry is in store for me today
with you, so thanks for tuningin. I'm joining you today from so
called Canada. I'm in Montreal,which is known as Montreal, which is
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Joe Chage. I am acknowledging thelends from which I am broadcasting from and
grateful to be doing so, honoringand acknowledging the curators and stewards of the
land of the gnejog Haga nation andall those nations who have served and taking
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care of this land and continue totaking a moment to acknowledge where I sit,
where I stand, and where Ibreathe, and where are you?
Who are you wanting to acknowledge?Those are those that you know, those
you know not of your own ancestors, your family, your parents, perhaps
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known or unknown. Your body pulsating, vibrating, moving, just noticing the
body that you're in. Maybe I'mstretching right now. Maybe you're feeling called
to move in some way or justbring attention to some area that's calling you.
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So just taking this time to acknowledgeacknowledgment. How does the power of
acknowledgement show up for you in yourday to day life? What do you
acknowledge in yourself and others, inthings you use, in foods you consume,
in media, that you notice,in people that you touch or that
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touch you, that impact you.So just breathing into this together, acknowledging,
grateful to be here with you rightnow. So I was feeling there's
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some content that I want to sharenext week, which is a great impactful
experience that I had over the courseof four months participating in the Embodied Social
Justice Certificate program led by Reverend KyoKyoto Angel Williams, and part of our
final project, we had to createto create something from our experience, and
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what I created well was a cocreation with another participant in the program who
I will be sharing with you nextweek, Flavia Jimenez. My conversation with
her. I'll be featuring and sharingour video podcast and our audio conversation around
our insights and takeaways from what wegain from participating and Embodied Social Justice Justice
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with so many mind blowing instructors,and so I'll be sharing that next week
with some more details about that program. But today I'm just going to be
sharing myself and tuning into myself andas I do that, just noticing what
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the return feels like. What happenswhen you return from somewhere or to something,
And maybe you have something in mindthat you're thinking about our direct experience
that you know about, but whatis it like to return? What do
you leave and what do you comeback to? And who are you returning
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to when you return? So again, thank you Nicole Shiner for reflecting back
to me what I know, butwhat I needed to hear today, which
was, why don't you just geton your podcast to share what you do
so well and beautifully and keep itshort and notice that what energizes you and
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if it does energize you, thengo for it. And so she just
put into words all these feelings thatI was having but was so helpful to
hear them. So thank you NicoleShiner, who actually, you know,
if you've been listening to this podcast, she is a registered psychotherapist, contributing
author and really a valuable source ofinsight psychological wisdom and a wonderful companion to
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create an upcoming offering that we areboth going to be sharing coming soon,
And I just wanted to let youknow the preview to this program which is
coming in November. The doors willopen soon to jump in. But right
now, we're creating a waiting list, so if you're called to join our
online program, which will take placeover the course of November, then please
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send me an email or find meon social media and send me a direct
message. The title relates to whatwe've been talking about on our podcast,
which is caring without carrying it all, and the tagline a soft place to
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land and honor your sensitivity andcity andcapacity. Caring without carrying it all,
soft place to land and honor yoursensitivity and capacity. Why can't I say
that word capacity. It's a mixtureof compassion and capacity. Maybe I've just
created a new word, or I'msourcing from a word that's already been created
and I like. So it'll takeplace over four sessions. It'll be on
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Thursdays from twelve to one thirty pm, and we will be spacing it out
a little bit to allow for integration, no rushing, and to allow you
to feel seen, welcomed, heard, connect with others of like mind,
and be supported by myself coach,consultant, facilitator and Nicole psychotherapist. This
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will not be therapy, but itwill be received, created, supported by
the wisdom and experience of Nicole,who's a therapist, an author and a
highly resourceful woman, and so I'mreally excited about that. So space is
limited, we do have space.Would love to welcome you wherever you are
(09:01):
tuning in from. You are welcome, whether it's in Canada, the US,
the African continent, Europe. Ithink time zones might allow for a
little bit farther east. But Iwelcome you, and we welcome you and
stay tuned for more of that caringwithout carrying it all. And a lot
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of my work also is deeply influencedby a Laine friend who's been on the
podcast, who is an expert onhigh sensitivity, and so her work will
also be I'll be standing on theshoulders of a Lane friend and the work
that I've learned through her and welcomeyou to join us. So please do
so. Send me an email Julieat Julie kusemaryu dot com, or go
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to Julianconversation dot com, or findme on social media at Julie cause marry
you. So what's happening today foryou? Where are how are you?
What are you needing? I've noticedI've talked about this often again, Nicole
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reminded me of this. This ismy space. The podcast energizes me.
It is my sacred place, andI notice it more and more even today,
like just coming to this place andagain being able to prioritize this time
and protect this time, and whatit takes to do that is not so
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obvious, and I could feel somefatigue around that, like it's like lifting
weights, which I like doing,but lifting like extra weights to make this
happen. When there's a sense ofvulnerability too, It's like, this is
my time, and this is whereI can tune in to myself, even
though I'm doing it publicly. It'salso this place where I can give myself
that permission to do so. Thisis my art, this is my expression,
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and so there's a lot at stake. When I turn the mic on
and I press record, what's goingto come out? And so thank you
for sharing and indulging with me inthis space. What does it take for
you to have that time, tohave that protective time, that creative time,
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that time for your artistry, thattime for your own prioritizing. And
then I also noticed as Nicole wasreminding me, just do the thing,
you know, It's what I heardis like, but it has to be
perfect and I have to deliver thecontent that I was thinking of of sharing
today and I want to have toedit some music into that. And do
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I have enough time amidst you know, this whole reintegration, back to school,
back to a regular routine, andit's not going to be ready because
my podcast goes live at too,and I want to stick to that.
And so all of this is makingsense, and I'm just showing up here
right now with all the stuff tosay, Welcome back, Julie, and
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welcome back to you listener, dearfriend, dear listener to the podcast,
if you're listening, if you're liveor at another time in the near future,
welcome back to this experience with me. Let me know what you're gaining,
what you're wanting to hear. AndI'm just honoring what it's like to
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return. And is there an expectationthat I'm returning a new more wise more
experiences. I've been off for threemonths. What did I acquire? I
think it's, if anything, it'sbeen more of a letting go. It's
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been summer for me here in Montrealand my kids. I've been mostly home
somewhat in camp. Here in Montreal, high school starts in grade seven,
and so my older son, who'stwelve, just started high school and my
younger son is in grade four.So that's been a transition. And I
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took some time off this summer.Three weeks I took off from my schedule.
It was very busy July working andthen I took off most of August
and I was off pretty much withmy kids. And then we went away
for a week as a family.We went to Vermont. We went to
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Boston, yes, Vermont's estate.Boston is a city in Massachusetts. We
went to visit the Basketball Hall ofFame, and then we stayed in Boston
for a couple of nights, andthen we came back to Vermont and came
back to Montreal. And yeah,and then I had a profound experience over
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the weekend, having carved out sometime to leave home for four days.
We're not talking like three months,but four days, three nights, Thursday,
Friday, Saturday night, and I'vebeen ready to go away again.
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If you've listened to the podcast,maybe you've heard me talk about some trips,
some retreats, some conferences, sometraveling, and I think it's been
over two or three years that I'veleft the nest, so to speak,
with the pandemic with some moving changesand transitions, just realizing and noticing,
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I mean knowing it all along,but just really noticing and feeling and saying
it out loud that I have nothad the opportunity nor privilege to go away.
And my mother, who's a fulltime amazing woman in my life and
also she's a caregiver to her husbandof nineteen years, has been saying that
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she wants to go to the treesand get away, and so we came
together and figured out a great tripthat was unexpected. I was feeling like
I wanted a retreat and to goaway, and so we put our creativity
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together and out came a beautiful experiencewhich was going to Cropalu Institute. I
don't think it's an institute, Cropalu. It's sent her for yoga and well
being. I've been there quite afew times. It's sort of been my
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refuge when I'm feeling like I needsomewhere to go to lend softly, to
feel inspired and empowered. It's beena saving grace for me. Thankfully,
privilege has brought me to know thatplace well an opportunity, and I never
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imagined that I would be able toshare it with my mother. Though she's
interested in many things, we sharesimilar interests. I wasn't sure that this
place would be something that would callher, but it invited her in and
so we were there together and itwas a beautiful experience. We were privileged
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to see Elizabeth Gilbert, author ofEat, Pray, Love, and Big
Magic, Creative Living Beyond Fear,and we also heard the amazing doctor Tera
ray Trent, who has a book, many books, but one of them
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is called The Awakened Woman, AGuide from Remembering and Igniting your Sacred Dreams.
Elizabeth invited doctor Tara ray Trent tojoin her for the weekend, and
she's one of Oprah's favorite guests.I mean, she's just an incredible woman.
But they both are incredible women.Doctor Terra ray Trent is from Zimbabwe,
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has an incredible story, is incrediblehuman and I was treated to the
wisdom of these women and the otherwomen who gathered, treated to being with
my mother, treating to being withmyself. And I'm still unpacking the weekend
and what it meant to me andjust came back a couple of days ago,
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and so I'm wanting to protect thatintegration time. And so I'm just
speaking to it as coming back thereturn, as I also returned to the
podcast. Who is it that I'mreturning to? What am I returning from?
How does a return speak to you? Is there expectation upon a return
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to produce, to create, tobe something different, to be something new,
to offer something? And who didI leave on Thursday afternoon? Aside
from the people in my household,kids, husband, Who did I leave
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of myself when I embarked on threenights away? And who did I return
to? What happens when you leave, whether it's the house in the morning,
your apartment off to greet a newexperience. What happens when you open?
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You let your heart be touched andmoved. I mean this might sound
obvious and cliche, but of courseI was able to meet myself, to
meet my resistance in opening to myself. I met that when I was away.
It's like, no, I willnot feel I will not give into
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this, I will not open.I've been closed for however many months or
years, it felt like, andhere's an opportunity to experience something new and
to open to new people, tomyself without responsibilities that I experienced daily of
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feeding mouths that are hungry throughout theday. By working by all those demands
and responsibilities that I normally attend tendto. I didn't have those for four
days. So what then? What'sthere? Who's there when those priorities fade?
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So of course I was able tomeet myself and even that was enough.
It's like I've just created this timefor myself. Just getting away.
Of course, as people know,takes time, effort, organization, details,
planning, availability, there's expectation.Okay, let the change happen.
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I need to feel what this isall worth doing for. I need to
know what I'm getting here. Andso I felt some of that. It's
like it's not happening yet. I'mnot changed and transformed into this new,
highly expressive, open, flexible,pleasure filled woman. Yet you know,
and and so be it. It'sgentle. It's much more gentle than that
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Julie one. I'm i Crpollo.I love to engage as well. It's
like going all out. It's likethey have all these healing arts experiences you
can get like body treatments, somassage, reflexology, ierovertic treatments. They
also have metaphysical treatments and sessions,and so I engaged in a Tarot reading
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which was so good, and aKashak record reading and just really indulged in
my senses, my spiritual sense,my physical sense, emotional sense. They
have the best food, which isthere's you know, meat options, but
I love the vegan vegetarian options,and it was dreamy to just have food
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that I could put on my platethat was available and fresh and beautifully taken
care of and offered so much gratitudefor that experience. This is not an
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endorsement for Cropollu, though I haveno problem endorsing them. It has been
a great healing refuge for me andas it turns out, for my mother.
She's given me permission to share howhealing it was for her for us
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to be together, but also forher to have her space and replenish and
remember herself as a caregiver that shehas been to put that down for four
days. What do you need toput down? Is there something you can
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put down? Do you need tocall on some resources? We had to
call in. My in laws wereable to help out and be with my
children. It's not always obvious,doesn't always feel like this is going to
be the best alternative or answer orbe easy for everyone. But what is
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it that you might have to stretchinto to give yourself some time so that
you can return to you, sothat you can meet you without all the
added extra stuff responsibilities to do,roles and responsibilities just feel right, that
fits so well? But what happenswhen you try something else on? It
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almost felt like that when I wasaway. It's like I'm putting on this
new piece of clothing that doesn't fitso well, so right, so easily,
right away. But as the weekendprogressed, it became softer, It
found its right place on my body. It began feeling nurturing and protective and
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soft. I saw that myself opento the experience. When I woke up
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Monday morning, after having arrived Sundayevening, I was in that post retreat,
leave me alone space, bubble zone. Don't interrupt me, don't tell
me what to do, don't askme anything. Let me just float here,
(25:37):
let me just be where I am, allow it to fall to land,
to integrate. Everything felt much morefierce in terms of my space and
my boundaries, and setting things newand fresh, and protecting my time and
(25:57):
making sure to have and protect thetime. I mean, these are not
new topics that I'm talking about.It's like the spiral, come again,
around and around, return again andagain, and yet how can it strengthen,
show up differently, serve me nowin different ways? And so I've
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been putting things in place to makesure that I have space, more space
than I had before. Instead ofbeing home every evening as I normally am,
same routine, welcoming, being withthe kids, school, dinner,
homework, how do I get anevening off right imagine too, or out
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doing something for myself? Little thingsabout this with Nicole, and we brought
up the work of ev Rotsky,fair play, the truth of it all,
and so just living it in thesense of I will I know I
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won't return to where I was,But as I return, what am I
looking towards? I find myself repeatingthese words when I'm speaking to friends or
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family about how the experience was.I felt like it put me back on
track, that I was able toreorient, like I was somehow pulled in
another direction. It's like, youknow, if I would imagine a group
of people calling my attention, Julieover here. We're over here, Julie.
I'm like, I'm coming, Isee you. And instead, I'm
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now like pulling away from that experienceand I'm moving back towards the track,
Like if I'm on this road thathas my name on it, it's Julie,
we're calling you this way, andit's not people, but it's the
invisible calling me that way. Andso I feel like I've been reoriented towards
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that. Whatever you might experience thatas spirit calling. They use the word
a lot this weekend. Spirit,whether it's intuition, spirit, God,
the invisible, the unconscious, thecollective conscious, the divine, on local
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intelligence. So I feel like thereturn has allowed me to return towards orientation
that's inviting me towards it. It'sonly I who can be oriented towards that
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because it is the orientation that hasmy frequency on it. And so,
how are you feeling about the orientationthat has your frequency on it? Are
you aligned to that orientation? Whatwould that feel like to be aligned towards
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your orientation? Orientation to you andwhat you're moving towards are being called to
or towards and so there was alot that happened this weekend that was quite
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empowering and very profound from the speakers, from Elizabeth and doctor Tera Ray Trent,
just as women what they've moved throughadversity, each differently, they're brilliance
being connected to a community of otherwomen and finding my place in that or
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just noticing my place in that,and the importance of having and listening and
being in the space to be inspiredby women with deep meaning and beautiful value.
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Use. I actually had never readany of Elizabeth Gilbert's books, nor
have I really followed her. Isaw the movie, and so I had
no expectations really of the weekend.I knew that I would that I really
wanted to see them and specifically doctorterror Ay Trent, and so that was
beautiful to be in the space oflow expectation, ready to be inspired,
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moved, open to what's possible,and so it for surpassed my expectations.
It's like, may you receive whatit is you need and what it if
you didn't even know you needed.That's what happened. I'm still getting it,
still landing a gift that keeps ongiving. So maybe we can connect
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to this place for each of us, for those who connect to this idea
of returning, whether it's returning backto yourself, back from a trip,
back from a destination, back fromanything, returning to September again, or
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whatever month or day you're in,returning to a Monday after a weekend,
returning to the grind, let's say, or returning to our relationship to your
work. So if you want toclose your eyes or you can keep them
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open, but just inviting this inwardreflection to notice what's happening internally, the
return, even that word return,how does that feel in your body?
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Did you have to leave to return? And is there a consciousness required to
return, like embarking on a riteof passage, leaving one identity and returning
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as another. How do our experienceshelp change or inform or transform us?
A simple weekend may not be sosimple. What if we bring consciousness to
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what we leave behind, even ifit's the week or the day. If
we bring connection to our experiences andwe wake up each day new, returning
to self to begin new, Whatdoes it feel like when you have the
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opportunity to return to yourself, tomeet yourself, to be with yourself.
What I noticed when I left forthis retreat weekend was that there were a
piece of me that needed to bemet again, waiting to be picked up
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because it had been overlooked. Otherparts of been occupied. And so it's
like a reclaiming of those parts,that piece that I was able to reconnect
to and feel and remember. Andso when I returned, that piece came
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online again, that piece that canreorb me where I can be attuned to
what's calling me to move towards.So what's what's coming online for you?
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When you invite yourself to orient toyou, to return to you, to
be with you without the expectations,with daily expectations, the roles and responsibilities,
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even for just moments, to imaginewhat you might feel, where you
might go, what might be callingyou hm, and what would it take
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to let yourself walk towards it Asyou feel yourself expanding, opening to who
you are, to who you arenow, just breathe into yourself, feeling
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your body, feeling the ground beneathyour feet, feeling the lightness in you,
the weightlessness that is with you andwas with you when you left and
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when you now have returned, comingin contact with the invisible nature of you,
allowing the light of you, thedepth of you, the feelings that
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are you in you to be sensedand to be taken in, and allowing
them to move you. What areyou moving towards? What do you see?
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What do you feel? What doyou need to move to feel supported?
To have this time to fully orientand align with yourself and your nature.
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What happens when you do that.Just noticing your breath, your body,
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and noticing, noticing where you arein your mind and your heart what
you need if that's surfacing, andwhere you're going. And thank you for
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inquiring and wondering and going where yougo. There's so much to share about
what I heard over the weekend.One of the meaningful takeaways from this weekend
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doctor terror Ay Trent, who grewup in a village in Zimbabwe. By
the time she was eighteen, hadgiven birth to four children, and she
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grew up in a cattle herding familyin rural Zimbabwe. There was no running
water, She had no education,but she had many dreams. She was
a victim of abuse, colonialism,patriarchy, and her dream was to come
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to America and get her bachelor's degree, her master's degree, and her PhD.
And she did, and her grandmotherand her mother who encouraged her and
supported her dreams. I mean,her whole story is just phenomenal, and
I'm just touching the surface of it. But her mother said to her,
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because she talked about her dreams,having four dreams, going to America getting
her bachelor's degree, third dream wasgetting her master's and the fourth was her
PhD. And then her mother saidto her, your dreams are not yet
complete. They will be complete whenyou describe the dream that shares how you
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will contribute to the collective, toyour community, when you take your dreams
and offer that to the greater good. And so she added a fifth,
which was to bring education back toher community, and she did with the
help of Oprah. And so Ithought that was I mean kind of even
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begin to describe her wisdom and power. But the beauty of having our dreams
for ourselves and then bringing them outinto the world, it's very powerful.
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The awakened woman a guide from rememberingand igniting your sacred dreams. I'd love
to have her on the podcast oneday, just putting that out there for
me to hear. For her tohear, perhaps, when the time is
right, believe in your dreams.She definitely introduced me to or reintroduced me
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to dreaming and believing and having dreams, knowing what it takes. So where
are you dreaming? Where are youbeing oriented towards? Are you dreaming?
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The weekend reminded me to dream again. I wasn't expecting that, and so
I say a deep thank you anda deep bow to doctor Terin Ray Trent,
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and to Elizabeth Gilbert, to mymother, to Corplu, to the
people that held up all the responsibilitiesand caretaking while I was away, all
that was necessary so that I canreturn to me, And so as I
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can return to me, I canalso return to everyone else what it is
that I am wanting to do andcreating it enabled me to show up here
and do a podcast. It's whatit takes sometimes often right, what does
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it take? I have many unseenplaces in me that keep me in the
roles and responsibilities day to day withouttaking a pause or looking at my orientation.
And these three days, these threenights, enabled me to do that.
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Just the beginning of my leaving andreturning, I'll be doing it more
non negotiables right for as long asI can control that, That's what I'm
signing up for. What about you, what are your non negotiables? Where
are you facing? What are youorienting to? What's calling you these days?
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Right now? If you want asoft place to lend, a place
to be supported, a place tobe honored for your sensitivity and your capacity
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as a change maker, as ahealer, as a caregiver, then consider
joining Nicole and I for our upcomingprogram caring without carrying it all, a
soft place to lend to honor yoursensitivity and capacity or copacity. Send me
(48:58):
an email, find me on theweb. Would love to have you join
us. We will do some dancing. There will be some guided visualization,
some nervous system education and talking throughunpacking sensitivity. Place for you to meet
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others. Virtually you will be bathedin the wisdom of Nicole Shiner and welcome
by me. So see if thatresonates, And if it does, I
would love to welcome you. Andif you know somebody who may resonate with,
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send it their way as well.All right, everybody, thanks for
the return. Welcome. I seeyou returning being you. That's all we
can be is ourselves right, nosmall task, but it is our job.
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So I support you and honor youand being you, orienting to you
to who and what is calling you. And if you don't know or are
disconnected from that, there's always away to return, and maybe it's just
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being curious about that return. Thankyou for listening today to me, and
may you find a place in youwhere this is moving you to be with
you as always and to see howyou are contributing to the greater good,
the collective, always in connection withour intuition, that innercompass moving us through
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through the deep waters, through themud, through the dry earth, thanks
to our sense that knows that canhelp lead us, even if it's just
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for the right next step. Usuallythat's what it is. Right. We
always want to see far, farinto the distance, but actually if you
can just zoom in a little bit, it's easier to see that and to
listen and to hear. So mayyou let your intuition lead. I'll be
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back next week with some content andtalking another wonderful, insightful human who will
share with me our reflections on theembodied Social Justice Certificate experience. And I'll
be coming back for more throughout thisseason, voices that create change. I
(52:09):
haven't officially declared it the new season, but it's just the word that's coming
to me now, A new season. All right, everyone, thanks for
being here, being you. Youlet your intuition lead, and see you
next time. Cheers,
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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.