Electoral Fallout

Seg 1 – Virginia Reckons with Its Electoral Choices
Seg 2 – Seismic Gubernatorial Polling Errors
Seg 3 – Escape from New York Begins
Seg 4 – Democrats After Socialist Revival

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Hello well to Liberty Nation radio Head Coast to Coast
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Mark Anttes. On today's edition, we are talking election fallout,
the aftermath, what comes next for the Republicans in the
wake of the Democrat landslide this last week. And you're
here on Libertination radio Head Coast to Coast on the

(00:56):
Radio America Network. I'm your host, as always, Make Angelides.
We're joined by Libertine senior fits, gladists and longtime hosts
of this here radio show. Mister Tim Donnod, Welcome back
to him.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Ye're a little Mark. Good to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
So we're recording in the wake of what's the opposite
of a super Tuesday, A mini Tuesday, a mini March Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Is here against leek Tuesday for Republicans.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, I mean that's pretty much the terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Day, Terrible Tutuns Day for Republican super Tuesday for Democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Very much so.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
But there's a question of just how significant it all is.
So that is what we were away.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, So we had the big races. We had the
goobernatorials in Virginia and New Jersey. Also in Virginia, we
had the Attorney General's race, which there has some head spinning,
I guess, And of course there's the New York City
mayoral race, amongst some others as well. Of course there
were some Pennsylvania Supreme Court ones and others, But those

(02:00):
the big races, and all the significant races went the
way of Democrats. Now, just as a general O view, Tim,
this is a I don't know, is this this is
a this is a bad week for Donald Trump and
the Republicans? Is it a worse week for one or
the other?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, it's not a good week for Donald Trump. Is
no way you could spin it any other way. But
It was kind of a perfect storm with the government
shut down and the uh, you know, the cutting of
the size of the federal government, including you know, slicing
off thousands of federal employees, made for a very predictable

(02:44):
result in Virginia. I think all of us were surprised
at New Jersey because Chiarelli looked like he had been
closing in and he ran a very good campaign. But
it shows you something that we've discussed before, which is
that angry people vote. Motivated voters are those who are

(03:08):
angry about the current state of play. So Democrats showed
up in massive numbers in Virginia, in New Jersey, and
of course in New York City, which was in a
way the most stunning result of all, although it was unexpected.
Although it was expected, I should say, Mom, Donnie's margin

(03:32):
was slightly smaller than we might have expected, but he
won a majority of the vote.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yes, yeah, over fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Now, the two races that are hard to comprehend are
the New Jersey governor's race because of the fact that
Chitter really ran such a good race, and it didn't
appear that Mikey Cheryl had run a particularly good race.
He had been closing in and to lose by fifteen
points is a shocker. The other shocker and I have

(04:06):
to get personally here for a moment because as a
Virginia resident for thirty years, I have to say, this
is the first time I've been ashamed to be a
Virginian because the people of this state voted by a
seven point margin to elect j Jones as the attorney

(04:31):
General despite the fact that he had openly on a
text message called for the murder of a political opponent
and his kids. I mean, I really thought that there
were some things that were too far over the line,
but for Virginians apparently not. And so now we have

(04:52):
a man who's threatened to murder a political enemy as
the chief law enforcement officer of the old Dominion. That
is discouraging and really I have to say it. I mean,
it's shameful for Virginia. It wouldn't matter whether it was
the Republican or the Democrat that sent out those vile messages.

(05:15):
Whoever did it should have lost and didn't. But it
shows you again straight ticket voting Jones. You know, Jones
won by far less than Abigail's spand Berger, the winning
gubernatorial nominee. But nevertheless, it's a dark day for Republicans conservatives,

(05:39):
and I would argue ordinary people in Virginia. I don't
know often get partisan because I'm a senior political analyst
and not a partisan, but this one is hard to
swallow for so many people across the commonwealth.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, what really struck me with that race in particular
was as soon as those text messages sort of gained
traction in the wider media, although obviously not in every
media source, of course, you still have people like Senator
Tim Kaine still backing Jay Jones, and it was it

(06:19):
was almost like that there's no principle that they will
not that certain people will not bend if it benefits
them tribally and politically. And I think there was also
something to the polling there as well, Tim, because what
you saw was after these text messages came out, he
didn't threaten to kill. He just said that he should

(06:40):
be killed along with his infant children.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, well, you could call it. The best way to
describe it would be a death wish.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yes, yes, that's a more accurate say. But so what
we saw after those came out was we saw a
tightening of the polls, and in fact, a lot chunk
of polling flipped to the incumbent Republican ag Jsonires. And
so what was happening was the day before the election,

(07:11):
I think it was a zero point three percent advantage
for J. Jones zero point three percent, which is well
within any margin of era, and it looked like an
incredibly close race. And then it comes out fifty three
to forty six seven points. Something tells me that people
who are responding to polls. And I don't blame the

(07:35):
polsters on this, because this is if you go to
check out libutin Nation's Public Square polling, we've got a
list of all the polls that were done for this.
It was consistent across the board. And so what I
think happened was people were ashamed to tell a pollster
that they were willing to vote for J. Jones because

(07:55):
of what J Jones did, and yet when they get
in the privacy of the ballot box, it's all tribal.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
What it is. I mean it, you know, politics trumps
everything and unintended there with the Trumps. But take a
look for example for that, let's just use an example
the National Organization for Women. Okay, that is an organization

(08:26):
designed to advance women right. However, when a Republican woman
or a conservative woman comes along, they do not support
the women. So it really is a national organization of
liberal women under the sort of false banner of national

(08:48):
organization for women. But it's the same thing when it
comes to political races that when it comes down to it,
you know, and Democrats felt that voting against j Jones
was voting for the party of Donald Trump. And you know,

(09:09):
in the end most people will vote strength ticket Democrat
or Republican. That didn't happen here. But because span Berger
ran up such a huge margin over win some earl sears,
it gave some latitude to Jones to get less votes

(09:30):
than span Burger.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
But still win.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
And when some Seers was a gunner from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well we're going to talk about that particular race after
this shipbreak. If you want to hear it. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 3 (09:58):
Andrew becka liutination right. Our remain Mark ash Ladies and
Tim Donner, senior political analyst over at liut nation dot
com remains Tim Donner, Thanks for sticking around, Tim we
just got into talking about the gubernatorial contests, and specific
I want this last week and specific I wanted to
talk about the the Virginia one between Abigail Spamburger and

(10:20):
wins Earl ss the for now the Republican lieutenant governor,
but not for much longer. And you were just mentioning
before we went to break about how Jay Jones, the
Attorney General, kind of got some cover by being down
ballot from Abigail Spamburger. But Abigail Spamburger, I think it

(10:43):
seems to me, Tim and and you're the you're the
the top political analyst on the show here, it seems
to me that this was more a case of winceme
Earl Seer's loss than it was Abigail Spamburger's win. Now
granted a virgin years, it's DC adjacent, so it's got
a lot of people who are reliant upon DC and

(11:07):
the federal government for their work. And these guys they've
either been fired during the first nine months of the
year or this last month they're furloughed, and so there's
some built in things here. But I think it would
have been a lot more competitive if Winston mill Sears
hadn't really she kind of backed away from the magabase,

(11:29):
which isn't huge in Virginia. I mean, it exists, no
doubt about it. It exists. But I think that do you
remember twenty twenty two when I think it was it
was Glenn Youngkin's mantra, wasn't it was hold the House,
flip the Senate, something like that, and failed to do either,

(11:49):
And as Lieutenant Governor, Earl Sears came out and blamed
Donald Trump for this and that relationships never really recovered.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
No, first of all, let's say that if Glenn Youngkin
was running for reelection with the popularity of approval of
fifty seven fifty eight percent, I think that Youngkin probably
would have been reelected because he really has been effective.
He's an excellent retail politician. But Sears made the mistake

(12:23):
of separating herself from Trump and doing a back and
forth with him, as you say, in twenty twenty two,
and at that moment, Trump just completely rode offse Here,
who was not a good candidate to begin with. She
just never got traction and was probably going to lose
any way. But when the shrinking of the federal government

(12:45):
and the firing of all those federal employees that live
in northern Virginia took place. I mean, she was dead
woman walking for weeks, if not months. So it shows
you it's very hard to be a Republican these days
if you're not completely on the mega train, because Donald
Trump is the dominant in force, the preeminentent force in

(13:08):
the Republican Party, and there is nobody else to attach
yourself too. And so Trump did not endorse Sears. She
wouldn't have won anyway, but the fact he didn't endorse
her says a lot about her lack of political skill.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Again, I want to come back to this polling, because
polling's polls aren't predictions, they're indicators. But he had an
average polling aggregate of eight point four percent advantage for
Spanberger over Earlseears. And that's It's Virginia. You kind of okay,

(13:51):
she's not the most exciting candidate. She doesn't have Donald
Trump in her corner on the campaign trial eight point
four can kind of see it. But in the end,
it wasn't an eight point four percent loss. It was
a fifteen percent loss. That is I mean, that's just devastating.
That's a that's the entire Virginia gop apparatus back to

(14:18):
the drawing board to figure out how do we is, well,
how do they know you nail them in.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
There's the thing, as Donald Trump has never been popular
in Virginia red large. I mean he is in the
southern part of the state, the more rural areas, like
in most states, but he's never gone over in Virginia.
It's the only southern state that he's lost three times.
Most of the others he lost maybe once in Georgia

(14:47):
and that is about it. But Virginia he lost three times.
So it's it's really in the end. Though the result
was far more overwhelming than we expected in fifteen fort victory,
I don't think it would make a whole lot of
difference if it was five points, two points or ten points.
The fact is Virginia has now become a certified blue state.

(15:13):
It's really not purple anymore. People thought that maybe it
was because gwyn Youngkin was elected four years ago in
an upset over the Democrat operative Terry mccaulliff, but that
was just, you know, that was an aberration, and blue
states do occasionally, as in New Jersey, elect Republican governors

(15:36):
to sort of as I like to say, the Democrats
in these states loved to vote for big, broad, big
government policies and lots of spending, and then they elect
Republican governors to make sure they don't have to pay
for it.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah. Well, I mean that's the entire Northeast United States,
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
More or less? More or less?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
So let's continue that talk about specifically about New Jersey
here and Jack Ciarelli. He did really well in twenty
twenty one, coming within I think it was like just
over three three points of taking the crown from Phil
Murphy and against Mikey Sheryl, the Democrat candidate this time around.

(16:24):
This was for me, This was the only one that
I really thought had a chance of, if not turning
to the Republican, at least being something to be watching
down to the wire in the early early hours of
the morning.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Which yeah, it's hard to believe. If he was Surelly,
by most accounts were in an excellent campaign. He's an
excellent retail politician. Yeah. But the failure of the polls
and swan what was just enormous. I mean, I think
most even most Democrats thought that share on my invite

(17:00):
three or four points. I don't think anybody predicted double digits,
least of all me. I thought Shitarelli had a really
decent shot of actually winning that race. But you know,
even though energy costs of skyrocketed under the Democratic governor
Phil Murphy, and the cost of living has gone further

(17:23):
and further up, those were the factors that you know,
myself and others thought might weigh heavily in Shitdarelli's favor.
In the end, you know, it seems more referendum on
Donald Trump than anything else. Trump had lost New Jersey
by only six points in twenty twenty four, down from

(17:45):
fifteen points that he lost by in twenty twenty. But
you know, these year after presidential all year elections are
you know, generally served broadly as a reference him on
the first year of the president. And of course what
Trump is doing is so controversial to so many people

(18:08):
that you know, and Republican voters, I mean, and this
is a huge factor. I mean, they've shown consistently they
don't turn out when Donald Trump is not on the ballot.
And this is the same phenomenon as Barack Obama, who
is another historic figure. Just like Trump, Obama.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Was able to be.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Re elected elected and re elected easily, but his party grumbled. Meanwhile,
Trump has been elected twice, some say three times, and
yet the Republican Party, you know, has not been nearly
as effected in the mid terms and offer your elections
with Trump as president.

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Right, We're going to be continuing this conversation after the show. Right,
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Speaker 3 (19:24):
And you're back on Liberty Nation Radio. I remain Mark Anthonys,
and we'll continue our long conversation with Tim Donner, Libtin Nation,
senior political analyst and longtime host of this here show.
And we've been discussing the elections. It took place last
week in Virginia, New Jersey, and we're just about start
talking about New York City, Tim, which you answered yourself

(19:47):
earlier as being a long term Virginia resident, but you
are by birth and spirit some believe, yes, an actual
New Yorker. So what do you make of ma'am Danny's Well,
let's go it. It's an historic win, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, both my parents died in the last couple of years, Mark,
and if they hadn't, I think they probably would upon
the election of a socialist as mayor of New York.
I think the surprising thing about it, beyond the fact
that Mamdanti was able to come out of nowhere as

(20:25):
an obscure figure and use his charisma and the right
issues to win the race, I think it's significant, Mark
that Mamdani won a majority of the vote. That matters.
And what surprised me though, was that once he was victorious,

(20:50):
at his victory speech, he doubled down and basically challenged
anybody to have an issue with the fact that a
he was a democratic socialist, be he was a Muslim,
and he said and I'm not going to apologize for

(21:12):
either one of them, to the cheers of the crowd. So,
in other words, what he's doing is he's laying down
a complt when you might have thought that he would
try to reach out and say things like I'll be
a mayor for everybody. There's no reason for anybody to
be concerned because you know, I'm going to be a

(21:32):
mayor for all the people, and that kind of rhetoric,
that's not what we heard. What we heard is I'm
a proud Democratic socialist and a Muslim and I intend to,
I guess, for lack of a better word, behave as such.
And so I think, let's put it this way. I

(21:52):
think the exodus out of New York is beginning immediately
right now because businesses and people who means and I'm
going to wait around to see how much more money
he's going to confiscate, how he's going to affect public safety,
how he's going to run up even larger deficits than

(22:16):
the city already has. It has the potential to be
a true nightmare for New Yorkers. But at the same time,
I think Republicans and I think it's a cynical view,
but there are many Republicans who said, I hope he
does win because any hero in the city and people

(22:38):
will see that the Democratic Party has going off at
the deep end, and they'll get routed in the midterms.
I mean, I don't know about that. Mom. Donnie was
an excellent campaigner here's what he did, Mark. He identified
the real issues facing New Yorkers, which was the cost

(22:58):
of living, afford to build, the cost of food, the
cost of housing. He identified the problems much better than
any Democrat ad in quite some time. Of course, the
solutions are toxic. They're the worst possible solutions, which are socialism,
raising taxes, basically seizing the means of productions.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
So we have a fire over here, can you help
us put it out? Sure, here's some gasoline.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, I mean, I mean pretty much. And so you know, Mom, Donny,
he campaigned extremely well, but there's no indication that he
knows how to go for and the early indication from
his victory speech is that he's not going to moderate

(23:53):
one bit.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
So absolutely right. The things that stood out to me
was the mention of Eugene dev which was, you know,
the socialist candidate, five time socialist candidate for president who
notably campaigned from a prison cell. And so this is
the person who's pointing to us in his victory speech,
Eugene Debs a socialist. So when we pass it as

(24:18):
democratic socialist, he kind of gives you united which side
of that he comes down on.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well, I think too that it has to be it
has to be true that Keem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer
and other Democratic leaders were cringing when he said that,
because you know, none of the national Democratic leaders endorsed him,
because they feel hit and rightfully so, that socialism is

(24:46):
a depth now for the Democratic Party. What they want
rit large is the type of candidate state Abigail Spanberger
and the and Mikey Chiro, the new governors of Virginia
and New Jersey respectively, proceed to be moderate. But the Republicans,

(25:10):
as somebody said, I'm not sure who every Republican running
next year will insert the middle name of Mamdoni to
every Democratic opponent and call them socialists too, and tell
them to go ahead and announce your support for Mondoni

(25:30):
and if not, it's your opposition. So for the Democrats,
it's I think largely a pyrrhic victory. And I don't
think anybody's going to be remembering these few off term
races of year elections come the midterms next year.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah. What was most notable for me about Mamdonie's when was,
as you say, firstly, he got a majority, not just
but the amount of votes cast was was quite shocking.
I mean it was. It was over two minion votes
in the end, and that might not sound like a

(26:13):
lot for New York City, but.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
It was the hiot's turnout since nineteen nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Ah yeah, John Linds.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
And that was a year that they elected a Republican
who you could make a case was the worst mayor
in the history of New York. Although you had David
Dinkins and you had Bill de Blasio, but John Lindsay
was someone who completely turned the city in the wrong
direction and it never fully recovered from it. So here

(26:49):
we are, decades later, and hyat's turnout since that election.
It's for a democratic socialist. And now I think I
want to make one more point about the New York race,
which is is very clever politics by mom DONI to
appeal to the day today kitchen table needs of young

(27:14):
New Yorkers, and he was able to do it by
promising socialistic solutions. And he knew and he knows that
those young people never lived through the Soviet Union, Cuba,

(27:35):
the tyranny, and the millions of people killed under socialism
and communism. They don't have any recollection of that. They
weren't alive when it happened. They have no resistance to
that because they don't know anything about it. And so
the smooth talking mom Donnie was able to convince them

(27:57):
that he will solve all of their problems. They own
had the experience or knowledge to know better.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
It's funny you put it in that particular way because
the the exeppolling the data behind who voted in which
way kind of thing, it's he had. Mandamie was favored
by the college educated, and Como was favored by the

(28:28):
actual working classes. That's I think that's one interesting data
point because you know, you've got these because they've got
student debt. They think that makes them work in class.
And it's a funny way to to look at it back,
especially considering Mandamie. And this is one of the criticisms
that I think really should have landed a lot harder

(28:49):
during the debates is that he's never actually had a
proper job. I mean, he's worked for his mother and
then he got one the government teat as it were,
and you know, the he still lives in a rent
controlled apartment, which is there's been some scanners about whether
he's entitled to it. Or not. But this is somebody
who's never built anything other than a campaign, and perhaps

(29:13):
a movement will find that out in the future. He's
never worked at anything.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Except That's why he aimed his campaign at gullible young
people who will fall for anything because they don't stand
for anything really other than, you know, trying to make
a living. And that's understandable, but they don't have the

(29:38):
depth to understand what they've just done. And it's the goose.
The goose that laid the golden egg has now been killed.
And I think we're going to see I use the
word exodus, and I think that's the appropriate word for
what's going to happen in New York connection. It is

(30:00):
out of there to you know, to the South Lives,
to Florida, to Texas, to Arizona, the other place. You
can already see how many how many seats of Democrats
are going to lose come twenty thirty because people are
abandoning the North in favor of the South. And there's

(30:21):
going to be probably a good twelve new Republican congressional
seats come twenty thirty on top of any of the
cancer with these this midterm jerrymanderin that's going on which
was approved.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, we're called via landslide rights over sixty percent on that.
Now we're going to talk about what the future holds
for both political parties in the wake of this week's elections.
After this shop break, Don't go Anywhere.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
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Speaker 3 (31:02):
For our final segment on Liberty Nation radio Head Coast
Coast on the Radio America Network. On Mark Anthelidis, we
continue our conversation with Tim Donner. So, Tim, we've covered
the Virginia Attorney general's race, is Virginia gubernatorial, the New
Jersey goog latorial and the New York City mayoral election.
So let's talk. Let's try and wrap this up in
a neat, little bogue. This was an off year election

(31:26):
where the party who's just won the election. It's the
first opportunity for voters to say, you know, I wasn't
happy with that election result. Do you think that the
narrative here will be long lasting enough to have any
impact on next year's politics, specifically the midterms.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I don't think the results here in twenty twenty five
are going to be any kind of factor because it's
way too much that's going to happen we now and
November of twenty twenty six. I think it's going to
rest on the economy because you know, between the tariffs
and the trillions a new investment that Trump has attracted

(32:16):
to the country, and his real push for economic growth.
If that succeeds, I'd say the Republicans have a chance
to stave off defeat in the House in mid terms
because going into it, clearly the Democrats will be favored
as the how party almost always is in the mid

(32:38):
terms of a new president. So for the Democrats, it's
a matter of defining their brand because every Democrat will
be accused of being another Mom Donnie and how they
how they respond to that will determine whether the party

(33:00):
going to move even further left, because we also have
it looks like a new mayor of minneapoliss out in
Minnesota who's a socialist as well. Uh socialists are on
the assent and moderates so called moderates in the Democratic
Party or teetering, and we don't know where the party

(33:22):
is going to be, but the image of the party,
the brand of the party between now and Next November
will be critical. Will they be seeing as more Mum
Dannie or they will be seen as more a John
Fetterman party. That's the big, big question. I would change.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Your I know it's your analogy and you're welcome to it,
but I would change that a little bit. Is it
the party of Mandani at all? And you chose John
Fetzman there, who is such an outlier in terms of
his points of view and in terms of his even
voting record and how he speaks about his own party.

(34:05):
But I wonder if it's more a case of Mandami
or Chuck Schumer. Now I want yeah, I think that
that's called. But also is Chuck Schumer your opinion on this?
Tim Is he going to face a big threat from AOC?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Almost certainly, I think, And I would say that that AOC,
you know, stands more than a puncher's change of a
chance of knocking him off. Now that race, Mark, I'm
glad you brought it up, because that will define that
really will define the Democrats attempt to establish their identity.

(34:47):
But the biggest advantage that they'll have going into next
November is the same that they had in November here
in twenty twenty five, which is that Donald Trump will
not be on the ballot, and considering that there's a
lot of people that voted for Trump who don't even
like the Republican Party. They like Trump, that they don't

(35:11):
really like the Republican establishment, you know, I wouldn't I
wouldn't put any money on the Republicans being able to
hold the House, although they have more leeway in the
Senate where they where they can afford to lose three
seats instill hold control of the Senate.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah, I think that the Senate doing the electoral matter,
the Senate looks a lot safer, even though, Yeah, even
though the things have actually kind of flipped, haven't they
since the last election Siga twenty twenty four, where it
was Democrats largely defending seats. This cycle, it's largely Republicans

(35:54):
defending seats. But there's a lot more safe seats there.
And I just wonder how much damage will be done
to the party if there are some really vicious primaries
from the Democrats, because I don't see how AOC can
challenge Chuck Schumer in the primary and not create some

(36:17):
wounds that will continue to bleed across the country.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Because I think you're absolutely right, But I think it
also means good. It's going to enable encourage animate other
left wing Democrats progressives to challenge more traditional liberal members

(36:42):
of the Democratic Party. I think you get to get
a number of primaries within the Democratic Party from the
socialists who were on the ascent. But you know, socialism
has never gone over in this country. Yeah, and you
know in twenty twenty, they ran every candidate out of

(37:03):
the race, including Bernie Sanders the presidential race because he
knew he couldn't win because he's a socialist. So they
basically cleared the field for Joe Biden because he proceeded
to be an honor. Of course, he governed and as
a progressor, but he didn't he did not campaign that wey,

(37:24):
so there's a reckoning coming in the Democratic Party, and
I think the AOC Schumer contest is what's going to
frame it.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
You know that there's something come back to the New
York City mayor race. It was notable to me. We
did discuss this earlier in the show, that it was
over too minion votes for cast, which is the highest
since nineteen sixty nine. But Andrew Cuomo, former Democrat governor
of New York State. He got over eight hundred and

(37:56):
fifty thousand votes, and that would have that would have
won him any mayoral election in the last thirty two years. Right,
the only person who got high in recent history is
Rudy Giuliani in nineteen ninety three. And so that kind
of tells me that even though Mandami had a huge,

(38:19):
huge victory here, the pushback was it was equally seismic
in many ways.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
If you told me Curtis Lee, why the Republican was
only going to get seven or eight percent of the vote, now,
I would have said, well, Cuomo might really have a chance.
Evidently a lot of Stewa voters pivoted over to Cuomo.
But also more how about the Republican Party of New

(38:48):
York City? Could they not come up with someone better
than the eccentric Guardian, the angel Curtis Sliwa. He's always
been a fringe candidate, and the republic one but forore
with the likes of Julianni and Michael Bloomberg, but they
had no one Sirian put up this time.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I hear Tim Donnaugh's calendar is free for twenty twenty nine.
Thanks for being here, Tim, much appreciated. Always a pleasure remark,
and that's all we have time for on this week's
list of Liutination radio head coast coast on the Radio
America Network. I've been your host, Mark Angeladi's Like Think.
Our guest today mister Tim Donna Libutin, nation's senior political
analyst and longtime host of this year radio show. And

(39:32):
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