July 25, 2025 • 39 mins
Seg 1 – The Mamdani Split
Seg 2 – Hakeem Jeffries Leading the 2024 Postmortem
Seg 3 – Hunter Biden Unleashed
Seg 4 – Missing the Political Message
Seg 2 – Hakeem Jeffries Leading the 2024 Postmortem
Seg 3 – Hunter Biden Unleashed
Seg 4 – Missing the Political Message
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and longtime host of This here radio show, mister Tim Donner. Tim,
as a New Yorker yourself, what's your take on the
recent let's call it, Mam Donnie Mania.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yes, that'd be a good term for it. There's a
couple of ways to look at the mom Danny phenomenon.
I mean, first of all, for a guy who was
at about one percent support a month or two before
the election where the primary in New York, he did
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a remarkable job of engendering support among young New Yorkers.
And I might say that I think part of the
reason he was able to do that is because, you know,
jen z as it goes up to about thirty years old, Supposedly,
these people have never had to live through socialism. They've
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never had to feel the impact of what socialism does
to an economy. To a people, they're not aware nor
do they care that literally tends, if not hundreds of
millions of people over the last half century or more
really century have died at the hands of socialism. So
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to them, it means that he's addressing what concerns them
the most most, which is the cost of living, accessibility
to housing, and a general sense that you know they
can live and thrive in New York. Now, of course
it's all empty promises. Actually it's worse than empty, because
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there's no possible way he can fulfill all the things
that he has promoted, such as free bus service, free childcare,
and let's not forget too, he is planning to eliminate
bonuses for bankers and Wall Street executives, which is a
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huge part of what they ordinarily make in a year.
So this stuff is unsustainable. Well, what Mom done, he
has done, more than anything else, is put the Democrats
in an impossible position. And you can see that from
the fact that the Senate Majority Leader, the Senate Minority Leader,
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I should say Chuck Schumer, the Houseority Leader, Kim Jeffries,
the governor New York Kathy Hogel, nor anybody outside the
squad has been willing to redorse this guy. If you
think about it, it's pretty incredible. This is the most
high profile race of this off year, this political off year,
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the year after presidential election.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah yeah, ok So.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
The fact that National Democratic leaders and the governor of
Mondanie's own state will not endorse him tells you a
great deal. He is a make sure problem for the
Democratic Party, but for the young New Yorkers, he seems
like a pan of seea, they'll solve all of their problems,
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like socialists always claim they'll be able to do, but
never can.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I want to make a distinction here, Tim, because young
New Yorkers absolutely are all for this new fangled socialism
they've been hearing about on TikTok. There was a recent
I think it was CBS polling, forgive me, I forgot
that wrong, but it showed that eighteen to thirty year
old Donald Trump had sport actually like fifty five percent
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not long after inauguration, and that he's dropped massively with
that group. And you have a lot of people on
the political left hearing this saying, you see how bad
Donald Trump's gone his right wing rhetorical It's pushed them away.
And I don't think that they understand now New York
is a very different yeapless because I don't think they
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realize that the young people that are turning away at
least in opinion polls from Donald Trump, who were support
of them before, are not What's the best way to
say is are are turning away because they don't think
he's going far enough, they're actually an incredibly right wing demographic.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And I think that that is a mistake that the
left is is really making.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That it's going to come back and bite them in
the behind because they're not turning away from Donald Trump
because he's doing what he said he was going to
do when they supported him. They're turning away because he's
not doing as much as they'd hoped he would do.
And that to me seems to be I mean, you
tell me the difficult the analysis wrong here, and I'm
not talking about New Yorkers here, by the way.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, you know, Mark, you kind of have to divide
a gen z into two different groups, the younger gen
Zers and the older gen Ziers. It's interesting that there
is a divide. The younger gen Zers, those in their
upper teens in early twenties, were heavily supportive of Donald
Trump in the twenty twenty four election. But if you
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look at the older gen Ziers, who are twenty five
to thirty, they are more liberal, as you would generally
expect young people to be. I think Democrats are working
off the assumption that when you're young, you tend to
be more liberal, and when you're older, you tend to
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be more conservative. I remember it was your own Winston
Churchill who said anyone who's young and conservative has no art,
and anyone who's old and liberal has no mob. And
but I think that, you know, New York youngsters respond
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to social media. You know, their las sort of center
around social media. And I have to say, I'm donnius
an a brilliant job of appealing to them through with
social media platform and telling them what they want to hear.
And what he's done is what the Democrats have not
been able to do for the last four years, which
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is talked directly about kitchen table issues, about the cost
of living, about the cost of food, about excessibility to housing.
You know, the Democrats have been busy talking about climate
change and systemic racism and DEI and transgenders. These things
are not important to the American people. What's important is
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that can afford to live. And so I'm he found
a way to appeal to those young New Yorkers. They
just don't realize they're being sold a pig in a poke.
And I will say that, you know, there'd be about
three or four times as many people that vote in
the general election in New York City in November then
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voted in the primary. So New Yorkers still have a
chance to, you know, to really understand it and dig
down on what would be involved in having essentially a
Marxist as the mirror of New York and the world
headquarters of capitalism.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's quite fascinating, is the followers. Ooren Mandani's way of
managing your finances by as he said himself, he gets
money off his parents when he runs out of funds,
which is essentially, I believe his blueprint for a big
daddy federal government.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, his father is a very well compensated left wing
quasi Marxist professor at Columbia University. So it all makes
kind of sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, his mother's a filmmaker as well, quite a well
known one within certain circles too. We'll be back with
Tim Donner continue our talk on so Mandani and the
New York City race in just a moment, Don't go anywhere.
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When we're continuing our conversation with Tim Donner. Earlier in
the show, we were talking about the Mandani mania.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
What's been happening with Maddani.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
What I want to talk about now, Tom is move
this slightly further a field from the man himself into
what his party, the Democratic Party, think about him.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
And as he pointed out, Senate.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Minority Leader Schumer, House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries, Governor New
York State Governor Kathy Hokel, none have endorsed him for
the contest. This is coming November, and I read recently
that Hakim Jeffries thinks that if Man Downie wins in
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New York, it could impact negatively the chances of Democrats
reclaiming the House. You think, yeah, I mean, well, here
certainly does.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And for once I.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Agree with him, because he is, you know, he is
the most prominent Democrat in the nation right now. All
the attention is focused on There's Virginia and New Jersey
governor's races, but there's relatively little attention on those compared
to New York City because everybody's waiting to see number one.
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If Mondane can win a number two. If he does,
how huge the exodus will be out of New York
from businesses and wealthy individuals who really form the bulk
of the tax base in New York, which means others
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people leave and there's nobody to tax to pay for
all your socialist scheme. So you know, it's it's clearly
something that has caused major problems for the Democrats. They
don't know what to do. They don't want to endorse him,
they don't want to not endorse him. But with the
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major Democratic leaders refusing to endorse him, he's left with
Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Casio Cortes, illhan Omar Presley, and the
most radical left wing quasi Marxist Demo crats, and they're
the ones who are endorsing him. So what does that
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say to the country. They're saying, well, I guess this
is where the party is right now. The party has gone,
if possible, even further to the left since the twenty
twenty four election, which didn't seem possible. Mark. I mean,
you know, politics one oh one, you look at what
you were and why you lost, and you change those things,
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you don't double down on them. But it seems that
krets had no idea what to do here.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That might be the issue that they don't They still
don't realize why they lost.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Or they refuse to come to grips with it. You know,
they're doing a so called you know, a post mooredom
on their you know, stinging defeats that they suffered in November.
But they're still talking about, well, we didn't message effectively
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or even that you know, well, they're whispering that Joe
Biden should have gotten out of the race sooner. But
the point is even beyond Joe Biden, is that they
have supported a left wing ideology that is not only
unpopular but mysterious to the American people. The average person
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in fly over country. He's wondering why this emphasis on
DEI why aren't we talking about men who choose to
become women? Why are we focused and why do Democrats
continue to support the idea of men participating in women's sports.
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This is what their national image is. No matter what
happens to Trump, and certainly his popularity has gone down,
because it has to. Once you actually do the things
that are as bold as he is, you're going to
step on a lot of toes. But still, I mean,
even if Trump is it forty five percent approval that
Democrats are down in the twenties or low thirties at best. So,
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like many elections, the population basically might look at the
twenty twenty six mid terms as which is the lesser
of two evils at worst.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
For Drum, there's there's a couple of interesting points for
information here, so generic polling, genetic ballot polling for twenty
twenty six. I believe that the Democrats are confessional Democrats
are about two points ahead of the Republicans at the moment. Nephew,
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just was that too just before the twenty and of.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Course that's on that's so called generic ballot without any
names attached to them, but just a Democratic candidate or
a Republican candidate.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's two points ahead roughly. It compared to where the
GPS three points ahead heading into the twenty twenty four
presidential election. The House really just squeaked by with a majority.
And then you've got this other thing to like, this
other aspect, and that's two poles came out in the
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recent week, like last week or two. One from CNN
which said that Democrats are the least popular that they've
been going back to when they CN started the polling
in nineteen ninety two. They're down to twenty eight percent,
which is it's their worst performance really than in the
last thirty something years. And then there was another piece
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of poll that came out, and this was from a
Democrat superpack, and the majority of voters, including obviously Democrats,
described the Democratic Party as I quoting here, woke.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Week and out of touch, and ye know that other
than that.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Other than that, they're great, They're having no other than that,
missus Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So you've got these two supposedly, these two things that
look kind of contradictory, but they don't think they actually are.
So you've got the lowest approval rating in the last
thirty plus years, and you've got you know, them being
described as weak, woken, out of touch. But then at
the same time, they've got a plus two lead in
the congressional bat And I think what that is is
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because and I might have this wrong, but I think
this is because people are optimistic that the Democratic Party
will turn itself around from where it is now in
the lead up to the midterms. So they're very optimistic
about it. In fact, that that's played out in another poll,
which I think is a Quinnipiac poll. If I'm saying
that correctly, where Democrat voters are more enthused to vote
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in the midterms than the Republicans.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Buy.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I think it's a good ten points difference there.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Well, you know, mid term elections tend to be grievance elections.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, if you.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Think about where the average Trump supporter and the average
Democrat are now, Trump supporters are sitting fat and happy.
They're in the catbird seat. They're seeing their guy ripped
through the Washington bureaucracy and make earth shattering changes on
so many different fronts. Whereas the Democrats are watching this
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happening and they have steam coming out of their ears. Well,
for midterm elections, it's the people that have steam coming
out of their ears that tend to show up, which
is why the enthusiasm is going to be higher among Democrats.
It's their first shot at sending a message to Donald
Trump that they don't approve. So, strictly speaking, this is
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why midterms almost always it's about eighty eighty five percent
of the time, pushing towards ninety percent, where the out party,
the party that does not hold the White House, picks
up seats in the midterm because they've got two years
worth of a track record of a president they hate
to vote against, and they bring along some people who
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voted for the for their president on the principles, but
thenwith they see it in practice, they're not quite as happy.
And a good example of that is the rounding up
of criminal illegal aliens. The population was hugely in favor
of that during the election without perhaps thinking through what
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it would take to achieve that. And now that Trump
is sending Ice in to do whatever it takes to
get rid of these criminal aliens, well, they're not quite
as happy with the pictures they see of this happening.
So this is the usual typical trends that happen in
mid term elections.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
We'll see how that carris on that we're going to
be back with him done after this Shipwright, don't go anywhere.
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and we're continued conversation with Libity Nations senior pritical analyst
Tim Donner. Tim, it kind of escapes your attention this
last week that a certain mister Hunter Biden took to
the airwaves, and I'm not entirely sure how to describe it,
but it seemed to me that he was trying to
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resuscitate the legacy of his father, President Joe Biden. But
what came out of that was I think it was
more telling than Hunter Biden would have thought.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
What's your take, Well, it's hard to imagine anything that
could have thrown more gasolene on the Biden fire than
Hunter Biden, you know, engaging in a profanity laced tirade
against all of the people who used to be allies
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of his father. You know, sure, he called Trump a
dictator and all this stuff, but that's to be expected.
But what he did to rip a new one for
all the major Democrats, including you know, going all the
way back to you know, highly respected figures like Dejence
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Cardell from the nineteen nineties. And what he did was
he trashed the entire party. He pulled a Greta Tunberg
basically on his party, He said, how dare you do
what you did to my father? He was a loyal
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public servant for fifty two years and you treat him
like third. If you had simply let him run his course,
he would have won the election, just like he did
in twenty twenty. Well, I mean, it's one of the
most delusional and bitterest rants I've seen in it. I
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don't even want to say how many years I've been
following politics, but let's say this, multiple decades. I've never
seen anything like this. And if you had to pick
something to make the Biden situation even worse, if that
was possible, on top of all of the former Biden
aides who were taking the fifth refusing to answer that
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they may incriminate themselves about covering up about Joe Biden's
obvious and growing incapacity in his use of the auto pen,
it would be the where he's just I mean, the
word unhinged is overused, but if you looked it up
in the dictionary, you would see Hunter Biden's face next
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to it. He seems to have forgotten you know how
disgraced he was with the absolutely debilitatingly embarrassing revelations on
his laptop, you know, all the shady dealings, and he
influenced peddling overseas, and then he has the audacity to
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go onto these podcasts, which, by the way, nobody's ever
heard of, because the main podcast in major, major podcasts
don't want him anymore. He's irrelevant, and he's furious that
he's irrelevant, that his father's been trashed, but he refuses
to accept the idea that if his father had stayed
in the race Donald Trump instead of winning was it
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thirty one states or thirty two, Trump might easily have
won forty because people can see when someone is incapable
of doing his job, and it could see that clearly
with Joe Biden. So, I mean, this is just humiliating
for the likes of Jeffreys and Schumer and the other
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major Democrats you know, who are trying to put together
something for the midterms, and between the Mom Donny situation
in New York where they don't know what to do
about this radical marxis to who's supposed to become mayor
of New York. On top of this, now they have
to deal with the Hunter Biden fallout. I mean, Mark
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he used the F word or the s words supposedly
like one hundred and twelve times during these podcasts. I
mean it beggars belief.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, it's they.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Really didn't do any any good. Joe Biden's legacy, no
honeyed hunter Biden. He uses the pro fancies because he
lacks the vocabulary, even though Joe Biden says he's the
smartest guy that I know.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Right, But you get this point.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I think for me, the big part was he was
talking about Joe Biden as a person with no agency.
And this is the last thing you want for the
president of the United States is somebody who doesn't have
agency over themselves, he was saying. And I've actually got
the quote here he said, and I'll skip the fancy.
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I said, I know exactly what happened in that debate.
He flew around the world basically the mind. He could
have flown around the world three times. He's eighty one
years old, he's tired. They gave him ambient to be
able to sleep. He gets up on the stage and
he looks like a deer in the headlights end quote.
There was so much to an unwrap in that. So
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first they gave him ambience. So Joe Biden didn't take
the ambien. They gave it to them. This is somebody
who can't control what medication is being.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Given to him.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
This is not you know, he's not going off and
buying it from a back alley dealer like Hunt, although
you never know. But so he's been given the ambient
allegedly after flying around the world so much three times
he could have flown around the world. Bear in mind
he'd been back stateside from that European trip for two
weeks and had spent I think it was almost a
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week at Camp David in.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
The road, yes, preparing for it. So what they didn't
let him sleep while they're preparing for him? Is he
the Mancurian candidate? So they sleep deprived and drugged him
to get ready. Why, well, you know they tried if he'd.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Been resting in Camp David for several days ahead.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
They tried to drag information out of Congressional Committee, tried
to drag information from from Wind. This is who were
taking a theft and doing everything they could to avoid
saying anything to make things worse regarding the whole Joe
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Biden's situation and whether he was in charge or not.
They couldn't drag a single thing out of them. And
now Hunter Biden goes on a couple of podcasts and
offers up information that nobody was even looking for, new
information that makes the whole thing look even worse, which
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is that they were force feeding, presumably sort of force
feeding the President of the United States a very powerful
sleep age. And we're supposed to think that this is
a legitimate excuse for his performance. And you're awfully right
to to say a bit around the world three times,
he had been back, as you say, for some time.
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And if a president cannot handle taking a trip or
two trips or three trips overseas and can't recover from
that in a week to where he gets on the
stage and says we finally beat medicare, which is the
most unhinged, single statement I think ever made by a
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presidential candidate. Not to mention a president a sitting president,
then you know there's there's It defies any sense of
composure to to just unleash yourself, knowing if you're smart
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at all, Hunter Biden had to realize that this would
make him even more toxic. And he's not going to
be admitted that any event hosted by Democrats for the
remainder of his life. He's become a pathetic figure who's
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been sent to the corner with a dunce camp on,
and it seems he's going to have to sit there
for the rest of his life. He's just made his
his fate even worse than it already was, which hardly
seems possible.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
There's there's another possibility there, which I'll get to. It's
a little conspiratorial. But you know, I do like these
little rabbit holes to go down. But just before I do, uh,
I just want to throw one more thing out there.
Ambient is a sedative. You're about to engage in the
most important debate of your presidential career. They give you
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a sedative?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
That that for what I mean? That just it just
beggars belief.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Well, first of all, who is deck?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, I mean, is this a conspiracy theory of who
they is? Because now it's true though Mark, people are saying, Okay,
who is there? Who decided to make the brilliant choice
to give him something to make him more drowsy? Right, Well,
he couldn't sleep, so they gave it to him so
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he could sleep. But Anthian is known to have after effects. Yeah, famously,
so you know, But and think about this one Hunter
Biden said he was so exhausted he couldn't sleep. How
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does that comport with reality? If you're exhausted, you would
think that it would be relatively easy to sleep.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
There's, to my mind, there's some kind of weird concoction
of various drugs to bring him up, put him down,
string him out, and set him right. And it's just
all badly reacted. But aside from that, let's just wrap
the this whole thing into a nice little package with
a little bow. Here Hunter Biden is saying that he
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was out because Joe Biden was out because of that
debate performance. It was only the left leaning media and
Joe Biden's fellow Democrats who were saying that he was
absolutely fine except for the debate. Everybody else, nonpartisans, independents, Republicans, conservatives,
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everybody else could see that Joe Biden was having difficulty,
not just at the debate. It wasn't a single instance
that derailed him. It was a continued decline at almost
every public appearance or almost every stage managed press conference
with pre selected questions and little face cards and then
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answering questions that weren't even asked. This was not a
single debate where he had an ambient and a battery action.
That's secure Joe Biden's.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I mean, there's endless footage of him wandering aimlessly, going
right when he's supposed to go left, saying A when
he's supposed to say B I mean, wandering off into
the woods looking around. Now, there's reports about how he
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would show up to an event in the beast the
presidential limo and he would just sit there for like
fifteen minutes, just staring off into the middle distance because
he was so out of it. You might have seen
that the footage of him stepping out of his limo
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at one point and he stands there and he looks
aimlessly to the left and the right, and the left
and the right. He had the clear look of where
am I? What am I doing? What am I supposed
to do? Why am I here? I mean, it's unmistakable.
So you know, this just makes the whole thing worse.
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The Hunter Brden thing makes a horrible situation even more unbearable.
And you would have thought that Hunter would realize that.
But of course now he's probably going to say, well,
he's standing up for the dignity of his family when
in the fact he just made things a whole lot worse,
if that's even possible.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Let's not forget hunter Biden has a destructive personality, and
he also has a blanket pardon for absolutely anything he can.
He can set the world to fire.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
And not now, not now, because for example, if they
because he's been he's been pardoned for all possible crimes
from the day of his pardon in December all way
back to twenty fourteen. But if he was, for example,
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called for a Congressional committee now and he lies or
perjures himself and they can prove it, he's liable for that,
because you cannot pardon someone for all crimes that may
occur in the future, only ones that occurred in the past.
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But I think that Republicans are they don't want to
touch him. They want to let him keep spewing his
bile and venom, mostly at his own party, because he's
doing their bidding. Then you couldn't pay for this kind.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Form or but perhaps you could.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
We'll be with that, NNA.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
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show break.
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conversation with longtime hostess radio show Tim donah So. Tim,
just before the break, we were talking about how Hunter
Biden appears to be torching the Democratic Party in some
kind of parental loyalty Kamakazi sweeps through the media. But
(34:25):
it seems to me that the Democratic Party is probably
doing a fair job of torching itself at the moment,
and they need to find a reason for people to
elect them, and they don't seem to have that at
the moment.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Clearly they have. You know, they've tried really to convince
themselves that it was only because of Joe Biden or
Kamala Harris. The messaging wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Trust my, sorry, Tim, it's my it's my theory here,
and I I have this wrong. Of course, it's my
theory that their messaging was actually perfect for the message
they wanted to send. It's just that the message people
didn't like what they were saying. It's not that the
messaging wasn't good. They had a great messaging machine.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
See this is this is what they were This wasn't
a good knowledge they believed that. You know, the Kamala
Harris campaign ultimately didn't effectively convey the winning message that
they had all along. So they were still in the stage,
you know, the five stages of grief, still largely in denial,
(35:41):
you know. And if they weren't, they would stop attacking
Donald Trump irrationally, you know, attack them on policies you
disagree with. But to take something like this strike in
Iran against its nuclear facilities and try to minimize it
and say, well, it only said it back a few months,
(36:02):
Trump is lying by saying the whole thing is destroyed.
You know, that's exactly the kind of thing that got
them in trouble to begin with. You cannot be a
party that only stands against things.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
You had to be in.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Favor of a couple of things here or there are
other than a transgender rights and boys and girls sports
and diversity, pretty an inclusion. Those things don't count. Americans
don't want that. They made it clear. But the Democrats
refuse to get the message, or refuse to consolidate the message.
(36:43):
It's like, you know, James Carville said it in his
latest day, this lot of James.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
But he's had a tough week with Hunter Biden saying,
Jimmy Carvill, he has anything in forty years.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
But Carvill said it right, and he should know because
he had a guy who did this in nineteen ninety
two named Bill Clinton. He said, there needs to be
a person that comes along and stands to redefine the
Democratic Party. Bill Clinton took them from left wing Michael
(37:19):
Dukak because it was a laughing stock, took them to
the center with a message that appealed to blue collar Americans, right.
And you know, Biden couldn't do that. Kamala Harris couldn't
do it. What Carbo recognizes that there has to be somebody,
whether it's Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, or Andy Basheer,
(37:39):
the governor of Kentucky, or whether it's Gretchen Wit or
the senator from Michigan, somebody who can take the part,
take hold of the party, and bring them towards the center.
It's not going to happen institutionally, Mark, because institutionally they're
so progressive, they're so baked into this left wing vision
(38:01):
of the country that it's not kind of change institutionally.
It's got to be an individual who drags them where
they need to go.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Kicking and screaming might sound undoubtedly, Yeah, it's almost I'm
reminded of twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, because that's pretty much
what happened to the Republican Party campic bomb, and he
exposes them to their face and anybody who's anybody who's
(38:30):
watched those debate performances, their primary debate performances where he's
calling out legacy after legacy and dragging.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Through them on both sides of the high on a
and yeah, he reshaped what it was to be a
Republican voter until the seems to be that.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Until the Democrats get somebody who is willing to shake
up and burn their own party down on and recreated
in their image, which may or may not be a
good thing, then they're going to be stuck. As you said,
it's stuck in the I think is the third step
of third stage of grief, the denial one. And anyway,
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Tim Donner, I really appreciate you being here.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Thank you always a pleasure. Mark.
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and longtime host of This here radio show, mister Tim Donner. Tim,
as a New Yorker yourself, what's your take on the
recent let's call it, Mam Donnie Mania.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yes, that'd be a good term for it. There's a
couple of ways to look at the mom Danny phenomenon.
I mean, first of all, for a guy who was
at about one percent support a month or two before
the election where the primary in New York, he did
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a remarkable job of engendering support among young New Yorkers.
And I might say that I think part of the
reason he was able to do that is because, you know,
jen z as it goes up to about thirty years old, Supposedly,
these people have never had to live through socialism. They've
(02:03):
never had to feel the impact of what socialism does
to an economy. To a people, they're not aware nor
do they care that literally tends, if not hundreds of
millions of people over the last half century or more
really century have died at the hands of socialism. So
(02:26):
to them, it means that he's addressing what concerns them
the most most, which is the cost of living, accessibility
to housing, and a general sense that you know they
can live and thrive in New York. Now, of course
it's all empty promises. Actually it's worse than empty, because
(02:49):
there's no possible way he can fulfill all the things
that he has promoted, such as free bus service, free childcare,
and let's not forget too, he is planning to eliminate
bonuses for bankers and Wall Street executives, which is a
(03:11):
huge part of what they ordinarily make in a year.
So this stuff is unsustainable. Well, what Mom done, he
has done, more than anything else, is put the Democrats
in an impossible position. And you can see that from
the fact that the Senate Majority Leader, the Senate Minority Leader,
(03:32):
I should say Chuck Schumer, the Houseority Leader, Kim Jeffries,
the governor New York Kathy Hogel, nor anybody outside the
squad has been willing to redorse this guy. If you
think about it, it's pretty incredible. This is the most
high profile race of this off year, this political off year,
(03:54):
the year after presidential election.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah yeah, ok So.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
The fact that National Democratic leaders and the governor of
Mondanie's own state will not endorse him tells you a
great deal. He is a make sure problem for the
Democratic Party, but for the young New Yorkers, he seems
like a pan of seea, they'll solve all of their problems,
(04:23):
like socialists always claim they'll be able to do, but
never can.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I want to make a distinction here, Tim, because young
New Yorkers absolutely are all for this new fangled socialism
they've been hearing about on TikTok. There was a recent
I think it was CBS polling, forgive me, I forgot
that wrong, but it showed that eighteen to thirty year
old Donald Trump had sport actually like fifty five percent
(04:52):
not long after inauguration, and that he's dropped massively with
that group. And you have a lot of people on
the political left hearing this saying, you see how bad
Donald Trump's gone his right wing rhetorical It's pushed them away.
And I don't think that they understand now New York
is a very different yeapless because I don't think they
(05:15):
realize that the young people that are turning away at
least in opinion polls from Donald Trump, who were support
of them before, are not What's the best way to
say is are are turning away because they don't think
he's going far enough, they're actually an incredibly right wing demographic.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And I think that that is a mistake that the
left is is really making.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That it's going to come back and bite them in
the behind because they're not turning away from Donald Trump
because he's doing what he said he was going to
do when they supported him. They're turning away because he's
not doing as much as they'd hoped he would do.
And that to me seems to be I mean, you
tell me the difficult the analysis wrong here, and I'm
not talking about New Yorkers here, by the way.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, you know, Mark, you kind of have to divide
a gen z into two different groups, the younger gen
Zers and the older gen Ziers. It's interesting that there
is a divide. The younger gen Zers, those in their
upper teens in early twenties, were heavily supportive of Donald
Trump in the twenty twenty four election. But if you
(06:31):
look at the older gen Ziers, who are twenty five
to thirty, they are more liberal, as you would generally
expect young people to be. I think Democrats are working
off the assumption that when you're young, you tend to
be more liberal, and when you're older, you tend to
(06:52):
be more conservative. I remember it was your own Winston
Churchill who said anyone who's young and conservative has no art,
and anyone who's old and liberal has no mob. And
but I think that, you know, New York youngsters respond
(07:14):
to social media. You know, their las sort of center
around social media. And I have to say, I'm donnius
an a brilliant job of appealing to them through with
social media platform and telling them what they want to hear.
And what he's done is what the Democrats have not
been able to do for the last four years, which
(07:36):
is talked directly about kitchen table issues, about the cost
of living, about the cost of food, about excessibility to housing.
You know, the Democrats have been busy talking about climate
change and systemic racism and DEI and transgenders. These things
are not important to the American people. What's important is
(07:59):
that can afford to live. And so I'm he found
a way to appeal to those young New Yorkers. They
just don't realize they're being sold a pig in a poke.
And I will say that, you know, there'd be about
three or four times as many people that vote in
the general election in New York City in November then
(08:21):
voted in the primary. So New Yorkers still have a
chance to, you know, to really understand it and dig
down on what would be involved in having essentially a
Marxist as the mirror of New York and the world
headquarters of capitalism.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's quite fascinating, is the followers. Ooren Mandani's way of
managing your finances by as he said himself, he gets
money off his parents when he runs out of funds,
which is essentially, I believe his blueprint for a big
daddy federal government.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, his father is a very well compensated left wing
quasi Marxist professor at Columbia University. So it all makes
kind of sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, his mother's a filmmaker as well, quite a well
known one within certain circles too. We'll be back with
Tim Donner continue our talk on so Mandani and the
New York City race in just a moment, Don't go anywhere.
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When we're continuing our conversation with Tim Donner. Earlier in
the show, we were talking about the Mandani mania.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
What's been happening with Maddani.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
What I want to talk about now, Tom is move
this slightly further a field from the man himself into
what his party, the Democratic Party, think about him.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
And as he pointed out, Senate.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Minority Leader Schumer, House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries, Governor New
York State Governor Kathy Hokel, none have endorsed him for
the contest. This is coming November, and I read recently
that Hakim Jeffries thinks that if Man Downie wins in
(10:26):
New York, it could impact negatively the chances of Democrats
reclaiming the House. You think, yeah, I mean, well, here
certainly does.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And for once I.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Agree with him, because he is, you know, he is
the most prominent Democrat in the nation right now. All
the attention is focused on There's Virginia and New Jersey
governor's races, but there's relatively little attention on those compared
to New York City because everybody's waiting to see number one.
(11:00):
If Mondane can win a number two. If he does,
how huge the exodus will be out of New York
from businesses and wealthy individuals who really form the bulk
of the tax base in New York, which means others
(11:21):
people leave and there's nobody to tax to pay for
all your socialist scheme. So you know, it's it's clearly
something that has caused major problems for the Democrats. They
don't know what to do. They don't want to endorse him,
they don't want to not endorse him. But with the
(11:42):
major Democratic leaders refusing to endorse him, he's left with
Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Casio Cortes, illhan Omar Presley, and the
most radical left wing quasi Marxist Demo crats, and they're
the ones who are endorsing him. So what does that
(12:03):
say to the country. They're saying, well, I guess this
is where the party is right now. The party has gone,
if possible, even further to the left since the twenty
twenty four election, which didn't seem possible. Mark. I mean,
you know, politics one oh one, you look at what
you were and why you lost, and you change those things,
(12:28):
you don't double down on them. But it seems that
krets had no idea what to do here.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That might be the issue that they don't They still
don't realize why they lost.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Or they refuse to come to grips with it. You know,
they're doing a so called you know, a post mooredom
on their you know, stinging defeats that they suffered in November.
But they're still talking about, well, we didn't message effectively
(12:59):
or even that you know, well, they're whispering that Joe
Biden should have gotten out of the race sooner. But
the point is even beyond Joe Biden, is that they
have supported a left wing ideology that is not only
unpopular but mysterious to the American people. The average person
(13:21):
in fly over country. He's wondering why this emphasis on
DEI why aren't we talking about men who choose to
become women? Why are we focused and why do Democrats
continue to support the idea of men participating in women's sports.
(13:42):
This is what their national image is. No matter what
happens to Trump, and certainly his popularity has gone down,
because it has to. Once you actually do the things
that are as bold as he is, you're going to
step on a lot of toes. But still, I mean,
even if Trump is it forty five percent approval that
Democrats are down in the twenties or low thirties at best. So,
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like many elections, the population basically might look at the
twenty twenty six mid terms as which is the lesser
of two evils at worst.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
For Drum, there's there's a couple of interesting points for
information here, so generic polling, genetic ballot polling for twenty
twenty six. I believe that the Democrats are confessional Democrats
are about two points ahead of the Republicans at the moment. Nephew,
(14:39):
just was that too just before the twenty and of.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Course that's on that's so called generic ballot without any
names attached to them, but just a Democratic candidate or
a Republican candidate.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's two points ahead roughly. It compared to where the
GPS three points ahead heading into the twenty twenty four
presidential election. The House really just squeaked by with a majority.
And then you've got this other thing to like, this
other aspect, and that's two poles came out in the
(15:14):
recent week, like last week or two. One from CNN
which said that Democrats are the least popular that they've
been going back to when they CN started the polling
in nineteen ninety two. They're down to twenty eight percent,
which is it's their worst performance really than in the
last thirty something years. And then there was another piece
(15:37):
of poll that came out, and this was from a
Democrat superpack, and the majority of voters, including obviously Democrats,
described the Democratic Party as I quoting here, woke.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Week and out of touch, and ye know that other
than that.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Other than that, they're great, They're having no other than that,
missus Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So you've got these two supposedly, these two things that
look kind of contradictory, but they don't think they actually are.
So you've got the lowest approval rating in the last
thirty plus years, and you've got you know, them being
described as weak, woken, out of touch. But then at
the same time, they've got a plus two lead in
the congressional bat And I think what that is is
(16:22):
because and I might have this wrong, but I think
this is because people are optimistic that the Democratic Party
will turn itself around from where it is now in
the lead up to the midterms. So they're very optimistic
about it. In fact, that that's played out in another poll,
which I think is a Quinnipiac poll. If I'm saying
that correctly, where Democrat voters are more enthused to vote
(16:48):
in the midterms than the Republicans.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Buy.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I think it's a good ten points difference there.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Well, you know, mid term elections tend to be grievance elections.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, if you.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Think about where the average Trump supporter and the average
Democrat are now, Trump supporters are sitting fat and happy.
They're in the catbird seat. They're seeing their guy ripped
through the Washington bureaucracy and make earth shattering changes on
so many different fronts. Whereas the Democrats are watching this
(17:22):
happening and they have steam coming out of their ears. Well,
for midterm elections, it's the people that have steam coming
out of their ears that tend to show up, which
is why the enthusiasm is going to be higher among Democrats.
It's their first shot at sending a message to Donald
Trump that they don't approve. So, strictly speaking, this is
(17:45):
why midterms almost always it's about eighty eighty five percent
of the time, pushing towards ninety percent, where the out party,
the party that does not hold the White House, picks
up seats in the midterm because they've got two years
worth of a track record of a president they hate
to vote against, and they bring along some people who
(18:08):
voted for the for their president on the principles, but
thenwith they see it in practice, they're not quite as happy.
And a good example of that is the rounding up
of criminal illegal aliens. The population was hugely in favor
of that during the election without perhaps thinking through what
(18:30):
it would take to achieve that. And now that Trump
is sending Ice in to do whatever it takes to
get rid of these criminal aliens, well, they're not quite
as happy with the pictures they see of this happening.
So this is the usual typical trends that happen in
mid term elections.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
We'll see how that carris on that we're going to
be back with him done after this Shipwright, don't go anywhere.
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Tim Donner. Tim, it kind of escapes your attention this
last week that a certain mister Hunter Biden took to
the airwaves, and I'm not entirely sure how to describe it,
but it seemed to me that he was trying to
(19:48):
resuscitate the legacy of his father, President Joe Biden. But
what came out of that was I think it was
more telling than Hunter Biden would have thought.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
What's your take, Well, it's hard to imagine anything that
could have thrown more gasolene on the Biden fire than
Hunter Biden, you know, engaging in a profanity laced tirade
against all of the people who used to be allies
(20:22):
of his father. You know, sure, he called Trump a
dictator and all this stuff, but that's to be expected.
But what he did to rip a new one for
all the major Democrats, including you know, going all the
way back to you know, highly respected figures like Dejence
(20:43):
Cardell from the nineteen nineties. And what he did was
he trashed the entire party. He pulled a Greta Tunberg
basically on his party, He said, how dare you do
what you did to my father? He was a loyal
(21:04):
public servant for fifty two years and you treat him
like third. If you had simply let him run his course,
he would have won the election, just like he did
in twenty twenty. Well, I mean, it's one of the
most delusional and bitterest rants I've seen in it. I
(21:25):
don't even want to say how many years I've been
following politics, but let's say this, multiple decades. I've never
seen anything like this. And if you had to pick
something to make the Biden situation even worse, if that
was possible, on top of all of the former Biden
aides who were taking the fifth refusing to answer that
(21:49):
they may incriminate themselves about covering up about Joe Biden's
obvious and growing incapacity in his use of the auto pen,
it would be the where he's just I mean, the
word unhinged is overused, but if you looked it up
in the dictionary, you would see Hunter Biden's face next
(22:11):
to it. He seems to have forgotten you know how
disgraced he was with the absolutely debilitatingly embarrassing revelations on
his laptop, you know, all the shady dealings, and he
influenced peddling overseas, and then he has the audacity to
(22:31):
go onto these podcasts, which, by the way, nobody's ever
heard of, because the main podcast in major, major podcasts
don't want him anymore. He's irrelevant, and he's furious that
he's irrelevant, that his father's been trashed, but he refuses
to accept the idea that if his father had stayed
in the race Donald Trump instead of winning was it
(22:56):
thirty one states or thirty two, Trump might easily have
won forty because people can see when someone is incapable
of doing his job, and it could see that clearly
with Joe Biden. So, I mean, this is just humiliating
for the likes of Jeffreys and Schumer and the other
(23:20):
major Democrats you know, who are trying to put together
something for the midterms, and between the Mom Donny situation
in New York where they don't know what to do
about this radical marxis to who's supposed to become mayor
of New York. On top of this, now they have
to deal with the Hunter Biden fallout. I mean, Mark
(23:43):
he used the F word or the s words supposedly
like one hundred and twelve times during these podcasts. I
mean it beggars belief.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, it's they.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Really didn't do any any good. Joe Biden's legacy, no
honeyed hunter Biden. He uses the pro fancies because he
lacks the vocabulary, even though Joe Biden says he's the
smartest guy that I know.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Right, But you get this point.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I think for me, the big part was he was
talking about Joe Biden as a person with no agency.
And this is the last thing you want for the
president of the United States is somebody who doesn't have
agency over themselves, he was saying. And I've actually got
the quote here he said, and I'll skip the fancy.
(24:36):
I said, I know exactly what happened in that debate.
He flew around the world basically the mind. He could
have flown around the world three times. He's eighty one
years old, he's tired. They gave him ambient to be
able to sleep. He gets up on the stage and
he looks like a deer in the headlights end quote.
There was so much to an unwrap in that. So
(24:56):
first they gave him ambience. So Joe Biden didn't take
the ambien. They gave it to them. This is somebody
who can't control what medication is being.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Given to him.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
This is not you know, he's not going off and
buying it from a back alley dealer like Hunt, although
you never know. But so he's been given the ambient
allegedly after flying around the world so much three times
he could have flown around the world. Bear in mind
he'd been back stateside from that European trip for two
weeks and had spent I think it was almost a
(25:26):
week at Camp David in.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
The road, yes, preparing for it. So what they didn't
let him sleep while they're preparing for him? Is he
the Mancurian candidate? So they sleep deprived and drugged him
to get ready. Why, well, you know they tried if he'd.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Been resting in Camp David for several days ahead.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
They tried to drag information out of Congressional Committee, tried
to drag information from from Wind. This is who were
taking a theft and doing everything they could to avoid
saying anything to make things worse regarding the whole Joe
(26:11):
Biden's situation and whether he was in charge or not.
They couldn't drag a single thing out of them. And
now Hunter Biden goes on a couple of podcasts and
offers up information that nobody was even looking for, new
information that makes the whole thing look even worse, which
(26:33):
is that they were force feeding, presumably sort of force
feeding the President of the United States a very powerful
sleep age. And we're supposed to think that this is
a legitimate excuse for his performance. And you're awfully right
to to say a bit around the world three times,
he had been back, as you say, for some time.
(26:55):
And if a president cannot handle taking a trip or
two trips or three trips overseas and can't recover from
that in a week to where he gets on the
stage and says we finally beat medicare, which is the
most unhinged, single statement I think ever made by a
(27:18):
presidential candidate. Not to mention a president a sitting president,
then you know there's there's It defies any sense of
composure to to just unleash yourself, knowing if you're smart
(27:38):
at all, Hunter Biden had to realize that this would
make him even more toxic. And he's not going to
be admitted that any event hosted by Democrats for the
remainder of his life. He's become a pathetic figure who's
(28:00):
been sent to the corner with a dunce camp on,
and it seems he's going to have to sit there
for the rest of his life. He's just made his
his fate even worse than it already was, which hardly
seems possible.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
There's there's another possibility there, which I'll get to. It's
a little conspiratorial. But you know, I do like these
little rabbit holes to go down. But just before I do, uh,
I just want to throw one more thing out there.
Ambient is a sedative. You're about to engage in the
most important debate of your presidential career. They give you
(28:40):
a sedative?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
That that for what I mean? That just it just
beggars belief.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Well, first of all, who is deck?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, I mean, is this a conspiracy theory of who
they is? Because now it's true though Mark, people are saying, Okay,
who is there? Who decided to make the brilliant choice
to give him something to make him more drowsy? Right, Well,
he couldn't sleep, so they gave it to him so
(29:14):
he could sleep. But Anthian is known to have after effects. Yeah, famously,
so you know, But and think about this one Hunter
Biden said he was so exhausted he couldn't sleep. How
(29:35):
does that comport with reality? If you're exhausted, you would
think that it would be relatively easy to sleep.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
There's, to my mind, there's some kind of weird concoction
of various drugs to bring him up, put him down,
string him out, and set him right. And it's just
all badly reacted. But aside from that, let's just wrap
the this whole thing into a nice little package with
a little bow. Here Hunter Biden is saying that he
(30:08):
was out because Joe Biden was out because of that
debate performance. It was only the left leaning media and
Joe Biden's fellow Democrats who were saying that he was
absolutely fine except for the debate. Everybody else, nonpartisans, independents, Republicans, conservatives,
(30:30):
everybody else could see that Joe Biden was having difficulty,
not just at the debate. It wasn't a single instance
that derailed him. It was a continued decline at almost
every public appearance or almost every stage managed press conference
with pre selected questions and little face cards and then
(30:53):
answering questions that weren't even asked. This was not a
single debate where he had an ambient and a battery action.
That's secure Joe Biden's.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I mean, there's endless footage of him wandering aimlessly, going
right when he's supposed to go left, saying A when
he's supposed to say B I mean, wandering off into
the woods looking around. Now, there's reports about how he
(31:24):
would show up to an event in the beast the
presidential limo and he would just sit there for like
fifteen minutes, just staring off into the middle distance because
he was so out of it. You might have seen
that the footage of him stepping out of his limo
(31:47):
at one point and he stands there and he looks
aimlessly to the left and the right, and the left
and the right. He had the clear look of where
am I? What am I doing? What am I supposed
to do? Why am I here? I mean, it's unmistakable.
So you know, this just makes the whole thing worse.
(32:10):
The Hunter Brden thing makes a horrible situation even more unbearable.
And you would have thought that Hunter would realize that.
But of course now he's probably going to say, well,
he's standing up for the dignity of his family when
in the fact he just made things a whole lot worse,
if that's even possible.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Let's not forget hunter Biden has a destructive personality, and
he also has a blanket pardon for absolutely anything he can.
He can set the world to fire.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
And not now, not now, because for example, if they
because he's been he's been pardoned for all possible crimes
from the day of his pardon in December all way
back to twenty fourteen. But if he was, for example,
(33:03):
called for a Congressional committee now and he lies or
perjures himself and they can prove it, he's liable for that,
because you cannot pardon someone for all crimes that may
occur in the future, only ones that occurred in the past.
(33:23):
But I think that Republicans are they don't want to
touch him. They want to let him keep spewing his
bile and venom, mostly at his own party, because he's
doing their bidding. Then you couldn't pay for this kind.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Form or but perhaps you could.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
We'll be with that, NNA.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
But fair point, we'll be back with him after this
show break.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
For your freedom and your Liberty Liberty Nation with Mark Edge.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Alites Andrew Back on Limtin Nation Radio. We're continuing our
conversation with longtime hostess radio show Tim donah So. Tim,
just before the break, we were talking about how Hunter
Biden appears to be torching the Democratic Party in some
kind of parental loyalty Kamakazi sweeps through the media. But
(34:25):
it seems to me that the Democratic Party is probably
doing a fair job of torching itself at the moment,
and they need to find a reason for people to
elect them, and they don't seem to have that at
the moment.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Clearly they have. You know, they've tried really to convince
themselves that it was only because of Joe Biden or
Kamala Harris. The messaging wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Trust my, sorry, Tim, it's my it's my theory here,
and I I have this wrong. Of course, it's my
theory that their messaging was actually perfect for the message
they wanted to send. It's just that the message people
didn't like what they were saying. It's not that the
messaging wasn't good. They had a great messaging machine.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
See this is this is what they were This wasn't
a good knowledge they believed that. You know, the Kamala
Harris campaign ultimately didn't effectively convey the winning message that
they had all along. So they were still in the stage,
you know, the five stages of grief, still largely in denial,
(35:41):
you know. And if they weren't, they would stop attacking
Donald Trump irrationally, you know, attack them on policies you
disagree with. But to take something like this strike in
Iran against its nuclear facilities and try to minimize it
and say, well, it only said it back a few months,
(36:02):
Trump is lying by saying the whole thing is destroyed.
You know, that's exactly the kind of thing that got
them in trouble to begin with. You cannot be a
party that only stands against things.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
You had to be in.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Favor of a couple of things here or there are
other than a transgender rights and boys and girls sports
and diversity, pretty an inclusion. Those things don't count. Americans
don't want that. They made it clear. But the Democrats
refuse to get the message, or refuse to consolidate the message.
(36:43):
It's like, you know, James Carville said it in his
latest day, this lot of James.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
But he's had a tough week with Hunter Biden saying,
Jimmy Carvill, he has anything in forty years.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
But Carvill said it right, and he should know because
he had a guy who did this in nineteen ninety
two named Bill Clinton. He said, there needs to be
a person that comes along and stands to redefine the
Democratic Party. Bill Clinton took them from left wing Michael
(37:19):
Dukak because it was a laughing stock, took them to
the center with a message that appealed to blue collar Americans, right.
And you know, Biden couldn't do that. Kamala Harris couldn't
do it. What Carbo recognizes that there has to be somebody,
whether it's Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, or Andy Basheer,
(37:39):
the governor of Kentucky, or whether it's Gretchen Wit or
the senator from Michigan, somebody who can take the part,
take hold of the party, and bring them towards the center.
It's not going to happen institutionally, Mark, because institutionally they're
so progressive, they're so baked into this left wing vision
(38:01):
of the country that it's not kind of change institutionally.
It's got to be an individual who drags them where
they need to go.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Kicking and screaming might sound undoubtedly, Yeah, it's almost I'm
reminded of twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, because that's pretty much
what happened to the Republican Party campic bomb, and he
exposes them to their face and anybody who's anybody who's
(38:30):
watched those debate performances, their primary debate performances where he's
calling out legacy after legacy and dragging.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Through them on both sides of the high on a
and yeah, he reshaped what it was to be a
Republican voter until the seems to be that.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Until the Democrats get somebody who is willing to shake
up and burn their own party down on and recreated
in their image, which may or may not be a
good thing, then they're going to be stuck. As you said,
it's stuck in the I think is the third step
of third stage of grief, the denial one. And anyway,
(39:15):
Tim Donner, I really appreciate you being here.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Thank you always a pleasure. Mark.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Thanks, and that's all we have time for on this
week's edition of a Libtination radio Head.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Coast to Coast on the Radio America Network.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I've been your host, Mark Andelie's I like to take
them on to thank our special guests for today, longtime
host of this here radio show and Liberty Nation's senior
political and this mister Tim Donner, and of course thank
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