November 15, 2025 • 52 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening the Living Full Out with Nancy Solari. As
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hello, and welcome to the Living Full Out Show. My
name is Nancy Silari, and today we're going to be
talking about going with the flow. And I'll tell you what,
I am a planner at heart, so I'm even gonna
sit down and learn a lot from this show. Because
our inspirational guest coming up Troy Hartman. Wow, is he
a free spirit and one who has really had to
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go through a lot of pivots in his life, but
yet he goes with the flow, has great success and
his story is one that is really it's not just inspiring,
but I don't know, it's kind of white knuckle scary
what he does for a living. So I can't wait
to share that with you. Also, we want to make
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whatever that may look like. Now, our inspirational guests will
be joining us shortly, but I am getting word from
our producer that we do have a listener on the line.
Let's check in with them. Hello, Welcome to The Living
Full Out Show.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hi, I'm Vanessa.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Hi Vanessa, how can I help you?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I've been thinking about finding a new job because I'm
not really happy where I am right now. But at
the same time, I keep asking myself, why live If
I'm I'm just going to make the same pic check
somewhere else, how do I know when it's really worth
making that change.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's a really good question. And you know the thing is,
if you could just dream up the perfect job, like
you can't even believe you get paid for it, Like,
what would that be?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Like?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What how do you want to spend your time? If
you could do anything for work, what would it be
that that that you would enjoy doing.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I mean, I love I love to work with patients,
so kind of like that, like you know, taking care
of them.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay. And what do you do right now? What's the
paycheck job that you're doing.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
The paycheck job that I'm doing, it's you know, the
you mean the raid.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Is no, what what job are you doing now that
you're not sure if you want to stay in.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I'm working as a medical assistant right now?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And and if you were not a medical assistant because
you're not satisfied in that, what would be that that
ideal job, that dream job, that what what you really
would like to do?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Or I guess that's physical therapist.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay. So here's what's interesting. There's something called the as
if factor. Okay. And when I asked you originally what
would be your wildest dream job? What would you want
to do if you could do something and oh my gosh,
I can't believe I get paid to do it? What
would it be? And it took a little bit for
(03:25):
you to say physical therapist? And what I want you
to try on today and what I want you to
walk around all day being is a physical therapist. It
just so happens, right, now in your life, you're contributing
your time. They're making money for it, you know, paycheck
being a medical assistant. But what you actually are is
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a physical therapist. That's what you are.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's interesting. It's one thing to say, Okay, I'm a
physical therapist, but are you in your off time being
a physical therapist? So it's interesting. I had a good
friend one time who was an actress and I and
she went around and did auditions and I said, wow,
(04:17):
so are you in classes? Are you taking any classes?
And she says no, Okay, do you read scripts on
your off time? No? But she was an actress. And
what I'm getting at here is you want outside of
being a medical assistant. That's just how you're contributing your
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time right now. I'm choosing those words intentionally. Right now,
you are contributing your time as a medical assistant. But
what you actually are, your passion, your being, your gifts,
your talents, who you are as a what you're going
to be as a long term career is a physical therapist.
(05:01):
And so you want to keep saying that. And even
if you want to make business cards, you don't have
to say a company and put your name on there,
you're a physical therapist. Okay, you want to take classes,
you want to listen to podcasts about it, you want
to be educated about it, you want to surround yourself
in it. And then what you want to do is
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get a job that's best going to support you in
doing that. So paycheck jobs, entry level jobs, kind of
the one you know, jumping from one lily pad in
life to the next lily pad in life. Those jobs
are hugely beneficial, But you want to pick a job
that's going to benefit you ultimately as a physical therapist.
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So maybe that's a job working with children. Maybe that's
a job working with seniors. Maybe that's a job working
at a gym. Do you see what I'm saying? You
want to annow maybe this medical assistant position is actually
something that's helping you. But if the medical assistant position
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is not gaining you any new skills, if it's not
allowing you to take that next jump to being a
physical therapist, then you might consider switching to a different job.
Do you see that?
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So, do you feel like this medical assistant position is
teaching you anything that's going to help you be a
physical therapist.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's not helping fully but in a sense like I'm
still working with patients, but it is not in the
same field.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, But but let's not knock it down too much,
right because a it's kept working with patients, and maybe
it's taught you something about I don't know medical records
or you know, intakes or write it, whatever it maybe
it's taught you. But if you feel like this position
(07:14):
has run its course, if you feel like it's taught
you everything that you could be taught from it, then
that is when you decide. I think I want to
change positions. So if you're going to go from a
paycheck job to a paycheck job and it's not yet
being a physical therapist, you want to make sure you're
(07:37):
at least spending your time growing, learning, And so what
I actually invite you to do is this, And it's interesting.
My sister is a physical therapist, so I get it.
She loves it, okay. And I've been to physical therapist
and they help to give me back my ability to
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twist and turn and have more movement in my body.
So it's a very important role. What you might also
consider doing is contacting someone in your local area who
is a physical therapist. Someone you admire. Maybe they are
well known online, maybe they have great reviews, and I
would either a ask them could I job shadow you
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for a day? You might say, you know, I have
this other job as a medical assistant, but could I
intern with you on the weekends in the evenings. You
might take them out to coffee or lunch and ask them,
you know, in your life, in your career path, is
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there anything you would have done differently? Is there any
education you would have got before you became a physical therapist?
Would you have maybe specialized in physical therapy in a
certain way? Do you see what I'm saying. So, even
if you're in this medical assistant job right now and
it isn't fulfilling you fully, I think you can still
(09:04):
leap away from this, either getting another job that would
be another stepping stone to be the physical therapist you
want to be. Or maybe you stay in this job
because it is paying giving you a paycheck and it
is paying the bills. But outside of this, you know,
start networking and being around other physical therapists that can
(09:25):
teach you something. Have you considered that.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Okay? Well that's okay though, that's good? Right? Yes, See,
here's the thing. If you had said yes, and if
you had said I'm doing all that, I have nothing
more to learn, that would be pretty hopeless.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
But if you can leap away from this conversation with
some new ideas, things that ways in which you can
maybe spend your time differently, then you're growing. And as
long as you're growing in the essence of the show,
you're living full out. Okay. So I see a lot
(10:10):
of opportunity. Just kind of let it all kind of simmer,
kind of go with the flow as we're talking about today,
and then I think the decision will come to you.
Can you try that?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh, okay, wonderful. Hey, I love that You're going to
be a physical therapist, really really purposeful, important work and
you will be great at it.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And for everybody listening, when we come back, we're going
to be joined by Troy Hartman again. He may need
a physical therapist. You'll know what I mean. He is
one tenacious spirit. Stay with us, we'll be right back.
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Speaker 1 (15:00):
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Speaker 2 (15:33):
Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm Nancy Silari,
and today we are talking about going with the flow,
that is how you live full out. And as always,
we look for inspirational guests that we feel really exemplify
what it means to live full out, but also really
run with the theme. And Troy Hartman is such a
beautiful spirit. You'll know what I mean as we cruise along.
(15:55):
So welcome Troy to the show.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
So happy to have you. I you know, I feel
like I'm interviewing two people today. This is like the
tale of two troys, your story, and I guess the
audience will literally know what I mean, there's like two
of you throughout your whole life. But you know, I
think about little Troy. You know, you were always such
(16:21):
a good student. You love studying, you liked taking tests. Boy,
I could have really been friends with you growing up.
Yet you know, you were kind of awkward. You kind
of said awkward things. You were twisting and turning and
swirling around and kind of the odd little boy, and
little boy who didn't get a lot of Valentine's cards
when all the other kids did. I mean, you just
kind of felt like you were the outside looking in.
(16:44):
You tried to be low key, didn't want you know,
you were being bullied. And then of course you became
friends with the other bullies and they'se got you drinking
and stealing, and I mean you were on a reckless path.
And there we go, the tale of two troys, right,
the bookworm meets you know, the unruly one. But the
(17:06):
truth is, you really are such a good soul, like
even when you go through your kind of reckless you know,
adventurous times, your heart, your soul is really to me
what is the most inspiring. And my audience will also
know what I mean by that. As we move along. Now,
that tenacious spirit of yours did lead you to the
(17:28):
Air Force, and it was really there that again the
two troys collided. You were good at your studying, but
you really colored outside the lines in a what way?
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Oh you know, well, you know I carried that crazy
spirit that I sort of developed in my last years
in high school, where I was, again, I think, trying
to fit in, and the way I found myself fitting
in was was being somewhat reckless and doing these things
that you're not supposed to do. And I carried that
(18:01):
with me into the Air Force, which is a really
bad idea.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
What were some of the things you did though, what
were the no nos?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Well, if there was a rule, I was going to
find a way to break it, you know, just almost
for the sake of it, just to just you know,
because that was what was considered cool with the group
of guys I became cool with in high school. You know,
we like to find ways around the rules, and it
just became a challenge. And so yeah, I mean, there
(18:28):
are all the rules you have in the Air Force,
and it's like, Okay, how can I get around this?
How can I screwt around this?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And you were kind of living the movie Top Gun though.
I mean, I mean, for anybody who's seen the movie,
you were doing that. You were doing all the crazy
stunts that they told you not to do, and unfortunately
you did get kicked out because of why.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Well, you know, I was so I was there to
be a pilot, of course, and I was. I was
a good pilot. I was. I still am. I still
fly today. I got my start in the Air Force Academy,
and you know, I really really put my head down
and did my homework and you know, trained and trained
hard and really put extra time into becoming one of
(19:09):
their instructor pilots. But it it, it just didn't matter
how much of the studious Troy there was in there
to really do, you know, do what you needed to
do to earn the you know, earn the wings. I
still carried with me that desire to push, you know,
push the rules and break the rules. And I started
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doing that with flying. I carried it into into flying
and I was taking airplanes and doing things I was
not supposed to do with them, doing aerobatics and aircraft
that weren't meant for aerobatics, you know, flying low and
buzzing you know, buzzing cars and flying under bridges and
power lines. Just I just I that spirit that I
(19:51):
had of recklessness was was not good to combine with
being in an airplane. And that's what I did, and
I ended up well, heck, I was out buzz cattle,
completely honest with you, that which I hate to It's
one of those stories that you know, I know, there's
plenty of people that go, what, oh gosh, why would
you do that? You know, poor cow? Remember I was,
(20:14):
I was nineteen or twenty at the time, and you
know it's kids, you know, boys especially, we just do stupid,
stupid stuff. Well and I am, you know, a stupid
thing though.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, the stupid thing, though, caused a poor cow probably
lost his life. He was so scared. And you you
actually actually crashed a plane. I mean there was yeah,
you were you were you were you were adventurous, we'll
call it that. But ultimately you did get kicked out
and you had to find your new passion. You know,
(20:52):
how were you going to still get that adrenaline kick?
And you got wind of literally skysurfing.
Speaker 11 (21:01):
What is that?
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Well, yeah, the long lost sport of skysurfing. The timing
was really crazy for me, because yes, I got kicked
out of the academy and I was lost. That was
the two years of my life. Well was about a
year that I was truly lost. I said, what am
I going to do with myself? I was on this
incredible path to be a fighter pilot and to fall
(21:24):
from that grace, you know, was it was such a
big fall, and I said, well, what do I do next?
I was fortunate. Actually, it kind of like you said,
go with the flow. Sometimes it's crazy how things happened.
But somebody tricked me in the going skydiving. Believe it
or not. I actually had a buddy who kind of
tricked me into it because I wasn't really searching for skydiving.
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Actually seemed a little crazy to me at the time,
but he said, oh, I know you, you'd love this,
and he kind of talked me into going out to
this place. He said, We're going on a hike, and
it was a big lie. We showed up and there
we are at the skydiving center and I'm like, oh God,
really we're going to do this, And of course I
did it. I said, Okay, I'll do it. I'll do it.
I thought it was going to be a one time thing,
and I fell in love with it. I fell in
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love with it that day. But what's really crazy is
that same day, after I get down and I'm on
top of the world saying, you know what, this is
what I'm going to do. I think this is what
I'll do next. There had just been this commercial that
came out on TV. This was nineteen ninety one, and
this commercial came out for Planet Reebok and it showed
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this guy, you know, flying through the air, skydiving with
a snowboard on his feet, and everybody was blown away
by it, not just me. It was the first time
anybody had seen it. Somebody had a videotape of it,
and I said, look at this, look at this, and
I said, oh my god, that's what I'm going to do.
It was like a sign. It was like, that is
exactly what I'm going to do. And of course anybody
(22:49):
I told that too said they just laughed. They said,
oh god, you're a dreamer, You're nuts. But I was determined.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
I was dead.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
It seemed like fake.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yep, you know the thing is.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Scary.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Okay, honestly, skysurfing with a board bad idea. But the
Tale of two. Troy's good idea. You know and and
and you know what. You did it. You did it,
you did well at it. You you competed, you were
you were on fire again, the the adrenaline. Troy. He's back.
(23:26):
But I want everyone to stay with us because just
when Troy had life figured out, just when he was
back on top, you know, life happens and he had
to continue to go with the flow. So today we're
more It's more about you know, what are you doing
in your life? Are you going with the flow? Are
you resisting it? Like Troy. So when you lean into
(23:48):
the rest of his interview, see where in his life
he had to make some pivots, get really honest with himself.
And are you being again honest with yourself? Because to
do that, that is how you live full out. We'll
be back.
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Speaker 2 (28:22):
Thank you so much for joining us. I'm Nancy Silarian.
This is the Living Full Out Show and we are
talking about going with the flow. And we are continuing
our interview here with Troy Hartman. And again put on
your seat BELTZ there's more to come. And personally, Troy,
I think your life is frightening. I maybe I'm a whimp, okay,
but this whole you know be you know, skysurfing, all
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the things that you would do with the planes, that's terrifying.
But I got to tell you, you know, you're just
one of those people that you your first love was
that adrenaline. Your first love was, you know, finding ways
to test your boundaries. But at the same time, you
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were a reasonable man and sometimes you would pull back.
You made calculated risk, I guess I would say. And
as you went along in your career, you eventually did
segue from the skysurfing and you had a successful career
as a TV host and again being part of shows
(29:29):
there where you were again doing extreme, extreme challenges, I
would say, I and in the most successful show you
were on through MTV was called what it was? It
was wildly successful.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Yeah, senseless acts of video, Yes it was. It was
something else.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But they eventually, you know, you were doing it for
like three years, You're going into your four season and
the stunts are getting more and more wild. You were
getting a bit more nervous. You know, you decided you
had had enough. You were worried about letting the producers down.
But what I applaud you for is you you did
(30:11):
come to some senses. You did say I could die
at this, And what I think is interesting. As adventurous
as you were, you did know your limits. What did
that surprise you that you actually had a stopping point?
Speaker 8 (30:26):
Well, no, Actually, it's an interesting thing. I was very
torn while I was doing that show because I'm a
person that doesn't like to say no. I'm a people pleaser.
That's that's been me my whole life. That is one
thing that's never changed, and that that sort of got
me trapped. I was really into the show the first
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couple of seasons because I was in my element as
far as my capabilities and the things we were doing
were within we're within my qualifications. But then it started
to get a little bit beyond that. We started doing
things that were that were outside of my comfort zone.
And that's okay. I'm you know, I'm okay going outside
my comfort zone. But a lot of times I like
to do it on my own terms. I like to
(31:08):
take my own steps. But I didn't want to say no.
And and so I continued on past the point where
I really was enjoying it because of the people please
are aspect, and uh, I started to get scared. I
actually really did start to get to a point where
I was getting scared.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And it takes a real man to admit that, Troy,
you were scared.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
I was getting scared. I was losing sleep. I didn't
want to let them down. I was I was tortured
by it because I I just said no, I got it.
I got to keep doing this for the show. And
but you know, I'm luckily I was able to I
was able to say that's it, no.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I got it.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
I got it back out of this and that was hard.
That was hard for me. That was actually very difficult
to tell them no, I can't do it anymore. No,
but it was fine. They were fine with it.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Now, when you transition, though, you you did step away
from hosting and you ended up going into estate and
you ended up getting your broker's license and you were
successful in that too. And along the way you met Sarah,
your wife, You got married, you had kids. I mean,
life got really really busy, but you still had that
(32:18):
desire to do more and you found out about.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
What well you know, yeah, I yes, the search was
always there, and it was it was a tricky period
of time when I got into being behind a desk
and you know, doing what normal people do, and for
me it was it was it was really kind of strange,
but I, you know, I did what I needed to do,
but I had it in the back of my mind,
(32:43):
what's next, What's next? And I discovered, uh, well, a
sport called speed flying, and it was just another new thing,
one of those new sports that people hadn't heard about,
you know, And I tend to I kind of gravitate
towards those new things. I say, oh this, You know,
I'm a pioneer, not just an adrenaline junkie, maybe even
more a pioneer than anything else. I love that that
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you know, experimentation and being the first to do something
spirit And so I started what's called you know, it
was the biggest speed flying school in the world at
one time, and taught people how to be adrenaline junkies themselves,
you know, kind of kind of a give back at
this point. Now, I was I was bringing new people
into this wild and crazy sport and sort of sharing, uh,
(33:29):
sharing it with others, and that was that that worked
well for me. That was back in my place again.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know what I love about that is you were
still doing it yourself and Sarah, she was a jumper too.
I mean, you'd actually found a partner, a life partner,
that shared the same hobby. But here you were also
allowing other people to experience that dream, that that new
hobby of their own. And as you went along, eventually,
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due to different circumstances, you had to closed the school.
Nothing from your doing, just you know, just how it
turned out. And as you went along though, there was
again we're talking about the two of you, right, the
two different choys. What's so interesting is you you decided
along the way, as many of your buddies were doing
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jumps and they were testing the waters, and they were
still doing crazy acrobatic things, you know, in the air
and so forth. You actually grew in love with your
family and that weighed more to you. That meant more
to you than the adrenaline. To me, I think that
is one of the most touching parts of your story.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Yes, and it didn't it it's a weird thing to say,
but it didn't come as easily as you would think
because the draw that I had towards continuing to do
these things. Base jumping was one of my absolutely and
my wife and I met you know through Scot I think,
and she's a base jumper, and we'd do the wingsuit
based jumping, which is considered the deadliest sport probably in
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the world. And I was a pioneer in that and
and my heart is still in that sport. So when
I made the decision as we started growing our family,
when I finally said, you know what, I'm not doing
that anymore, it wasn't It wasn't the easiest. I knew
it was the right decision because you know, but it
was hard. That was a that was a difficult thing
to say, I'm done with that because I know I
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could still do it safely and I have a lot
of friends who still do it with families, and that's
their choice. That's fine. I just there's no way I could.
I could do that. My family is just the most
important thing to me, and I just don't want to
take any risk. I don't I don't need to. And
it's now it's it's become easier, of course over the
(35:49):
years now, so.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
You're not jumping anymore. But but what do you do
to kind of get that out of you?
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Though?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I mean, do you do you do kickboxing? Do you
you know, try to race a train, run? What are
you trying to do? I mean, there's got to be
something that allows you to tap that once in a while.
Speaker 8 (36:10):
I think, really, I still fly. I still I'm in airplanes.
Aerial photography has become one of my primary sources of
income now and so I'm still up in the air,
which that is what saves me from probably going crazy.
But I don't really do anything outside of yeah, nothing
crazy within that realm. I'm just in the air a
(36:33):
few times a week and that that satisfies that that need.
It's much tamer than it used to be. But I
think if I weren't still flying, I might go a
little crazier I think.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
So we're talking today though about going with the flow.
And because you have been such a spontaneous, reckless, you know,
pioneer do it first person. What is your number one
secret now to go with the flow? Because that's very
much the vibe that you are.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Well, you know, you've got to be able to see
the signs.
Speaker 21 (37:08):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
You know, it's one thing I think I've become and
I think we most of us as we uh you know,
as we get older, we start to understand and understand
ourselves a little better and the decisions we make. And
you know, I've I've always been a I've kind of
been a spontaneous person. Obviously, I just I make a
decision to do something and I I just get right
(37:30):
into it. And uh it's worked out well for me,
but it also has gotten me in trouble too. Uh
So I've just learned to take the pace a little
bit more slowly and kind of look for the signs,
kind of see things as the big picture in life.
Let's like, what really what really is going on here
with my friends, with family, things going on in the world.
(37:52):
Where is it that I belong? Because I think a
lot of us that's we search what is it we're
really here to do, and more importantly, what I feel,
what makes me happy? You know, just I'm a pioneer
and I'm an inventor, and I found myself more gravitating
towards being in the shop. And I have I have
more stuff coming up. I have some more exciting stuff
(38:14):
I'm working on in the world of jet packs. That's
kind of where I am now.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
But more things, more things up your sleeve. I'm worried
about though. Yeah, I'm so curious. Though, do you have
any regrets?
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Oh, well, geez. I mean the Air Force Academy thing is.
I still have dreams about it. You know, it's the
craziest thing. I still have this dream, a recurring dream,
that I am given the chance to go back to
the Air Force Academy and do it again. But I
have to start from the beginning, which you know, being
a freshman in any one of the military academies is
(38:50):
it's hell. I mean, it's it's it's a it's it's
not to be taken lightly. And the interesting thing is,
every time in the dream I take it, I say
I'll do it. I'll start from the beginning and I'll
do the whole thing over again, because you know, I
was there through my senior year, so I was very
much at the end of the whole thing, and just
just the subconscious of those dreams tells me it's a
(39:12):
huge regret because I know I would do it over
again if I could. So, Yes, absolutely, that's my biggest regret.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
But the most interesting thing is, gosh, I love this game.
If you had stayed with it, maybe you wouldn't have
done skydiving, right, maybe you wouldn't have met Sarah.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
Yeah, And that's on the conscious level, which really I
look at it and I go, it's a blessing. I'm
I think I'm much happier where I am, you know,
But I think I don't think it's so much where
my future would have gone that the regret is. I think,
looking at what happened, I'm actually I'm actually glad I
went this direction. I think it's weird. It's the subconscious
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regret of not completing a task because I'm one of
those people that and that's one thing about me. I think,
probably the one thing about me that's gotten me the
most success is I just don't quit. I'm not a
natural a lot, a lot of different things, many things
I've taken on. I'm you know, there's others who are
more skilled out the gate. But you know what, once
(40:17):
I take something on you, I just don't quit, right,
you know.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
What, Troy, It's the week. Like I said, it's the
tale of two Troy's. He doesn't quit yet, he goes
with the flow. And I got to tell you, I
am so proud of you. I mean, you are such
a beautiful soul, great father, husband. I just don't think
you could have asked and done more in life. So
kudos to you. Really proud of you. Thank you, and
thank you for being on today's show. And everybody check
(40:41):
him out. Honestly, there's so much that we couldn't get
to today. In his story, it's it's again. You're going
to have to kind of hold onto your seat though
it's a little riveting. So thank you Troy, and for everybody.
We'll be right back after this break.
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Speaker 1 (45:37):
You're listening to Living Full Out with Nancy Solary. As
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Speaker 2 (45:57):
Welcome back. I'm Nancyslari and this is a Living Full
Out show and we are talking about going with the flow.
And as I mentioned at the beginning of the show,
I am a planner at heart and I love it.
I do. I mean, I'm not so much so that
I like lay my clothes out the night before. Okay,
maybe I have once in my life or twice, but
(46:18):
I'm not that strict. But I do like going into
the day with the plan and I like to kind
of stack it all in the morning if possible, so
towards the end of the day when the energizer bunny
starts to go, well, you know, and that I know,
I don't have to feel guilty because I did it
all in the morning, or I can do what have fun.
(46:39):
What a concept. But the truth is I admire those
that can go with the flow. It's it's whimsical, it's
in some ways just inspiring to know that for many
many of them, they have no idea of how it's
all going to turn out, but everything clicks together at
the end of the day. Or what I think is
(47:01):
also kind of shocking and eyeing is that so many
of them, if they don't complete the task they suit
out to do, they're okay with it. I would haunt
me a little bit. I'd be going to bed going
in my brain going, I forgot to do this, or
let me write down a note so I can do
that tomorrow. But that is really the zest and the
(47:22):
greatness of life.
Speaker 11 (47:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
We are all different, but it is one of those
things that we have to look at. Okay, I'm a
planner and somebody else might be a going with the flower,
And again I admire them, but you have to think
sometimes in life, who are the best partners for you?
Now I have to admit I tend to do better
(47:44):
with those who are planners too, and anybody who's ever
had to pick up the slack or cover for others,
you know what I mean. At the end of the day,
a deadline is still a deadline. And for me, it's
helpful to know that I'm running with others who will
who will check off the same box as I am.
We can divide and conquer duties and at the end
(48:05):
of the day, we're all running for the same common goal.
And there's been times in my life I've dated that
go with the flower, and I've thought to myself, Wow,
you know, I'm with them because part of me longs
to be like them. But then I find myself in
some ways a little bit disappointed. I guess, I would say,
(48:28):
because I would look at them and think, man, we
could do so much more on our Saturday, or you know,
let's make the most of this life we have. But
I've learned over time that it's really great that we're
unique and different. But I have also learned that I believe,
whether it's business or personal relationships, you do have to
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think about combining yourself partnering with people that are like
minded to you. It's not a golden rule. Everyone's got
their own way in the world. But for me, it's
worked better. I do think though that you know, we've
heard the saying opposites attract, and so sometimes if you
find yourself in a partnership, whether it be personal or professional,
(49:13):
that you want to seize that moment. Okay, what can
I learn about being with this person? You know? Do
they bring out the best of me? Do they have
me stretch and be my highest and best self? Or
do they teach me to let go and and kind
of get a little bit more creative, a little bit
more whimsical. I think there is beauty in that as well.
(49:36):
But what I want you to lean into today because
I've just rattled off a lot of things I do
and how I see myself, But I'm more curious about you,
and I want you to leap away from today's show
asking yourself. Are you a planner like me? Are you
a going with the flower? Are you matching yourself friends
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with partnering with like minded folks like yourself? Or are
you in that opposite subtract?
Speaker 11 (50:03):
Boat?
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I don't think we can lose either way. But I
do believe very much that we've got this one life
and I treasure it. I really do, especially given that
I've lost my eyesight over the years due to retinitis pigmentosa.
I've learned over the years that there's no guarantees. We
have to seize every minute. And I guess that's why
(50:25):
I am a planner in hindsight. When I think about
losing my eyesight, it taught me that life is game on.
Life is meant to be lived. I want to see
what I can, even though it's very little. I want
to smell and touch and taste and do everything I
can because just like how there's no guarantees with eyesight,
(50:46):
there's no guarantees with life. But when we talk about
going with the flow today, that may be what you
want to do in life. It may be how you
want to experience life. May be what allows you to
kind of relax and feel zen and meditate and and
just allow life to wash over you and to be experienced.
(51:10):
Or you might be in the in the boat like me,
where you're wanting to take advantage of the opportunities that
are at your toes. You know, be able to stretch
and learn and grow and always be that student of life. Again,
I don't think you can lose either way, but it
is a good thing from time to time to take
(51:31):
that pause in life to kind of assess journal, you know,
have a chat with a friend, see a therapist, get
a life coach, do whatever you need to do to
make the most of every day.
Speaker 6 (51:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
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Go out there, take action, remember most of all, to
have fun, because when we're doing that, we're allowing ourselves
to seize every moment in life and to grow and
learn and live full out.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hello, and welcome to the Living Full Out Show. My
name is Nancy Silari, and today we're going to be
talking about going with the flow. And I'll tell you what,
I am a planner at heart, so I'm even gonna
sit down and learn a lot from this show. Because
our inspirational guest coming up Troy Hartman. Wow, is he
a free spirit and one who has really had to
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go through a lot of pivots in his life, but
yet he goes with the flow, has great success and
his story is one that is really it's not just inspiring,
but I don't know, it's kind of white knuckle scary
what he does for a living. So I can't wait
to share that with you. Also, we want to make
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Let's check in with them. Hello, Welcome to The Living
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Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hi, I'm Vanessa.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Hi Vanessa, how can I help you?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I've been thinking about finding a new job because I'm
not really happy where I am right now. But at
the same time, I keep asking myself, why live If
I'm I'm just going to make the same pic check
somewhere else, how do I know when it's really worth
making that change.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's a really good question. And you know the thing is,
if you could just dream up the perfect job, like
you can't even believe you get paid for it, Like,
what would that be?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Like?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What how do you want to spend your time? If
you could do anything for work, what would it be
that that that you would enjoy doing.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I mean, I love I love to work with patients,
so kind of like that, like you know, taking care
of them.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay. And what do you do right now? What's the
paycheck job that you're doing.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
The paycheck job that I'm doing, it's you know, the
you mean the raid.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Is no, what what job are you doing now that
you're not sure if you want to stay in.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I'm working as a medical assistant right now?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And and if you were not a medical assistant because
you're not satisfied in that, what would be that that
ideal job, that dream job, that what what you really
would like to do?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Or I guess that's physical therapist.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay. So here's what's interesting. There's something called the as
if factor. Okay. And when I asked you originally what
would be your wildest dream job? What would you want
to do if you could do something and oh my gosh,
I can't believe I get paid to do it? What
would it be? And it took a little bit for
(03:25):
you to say physical therapist? And what I want you
to try on today and what I want you to
walk around all day being is a physical therapist. It
just so happens, right, now in your life, you're contributing
your time. They're making money for it, you know, paycheck
being a medical assistant. But what you actually are is
(03:50):
a physical therapist. That's what you are.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's interesting. It's one thing to say, Okay, I'm a
physical therapist, but are you in your off time being
a physical therapist? So it's interesting. I had a good
friend one time who was an actress and I and
she went around and did auditions and I said, wow,
(04:17):
so are you in classes? Are you taking any classes?
And she says no, Okay, do you read scripts on
your off time? No? But she was an actress. And
what I'm getting at here is you want outside of
being a medical assistant. That's just how you're contributing your
(04:37):
time right now. I'm choosing those words intentionally. Right now,
you are contributing your time as a medical assistant. But
what you actually are, your passion, your being, your gifts,
your talents, who you are as a what you're going
to be as a long term career is a physical therapist.
(05:01):
And so you want to keep saying that. And even
if you want to make business cards, you don't have
to say a company and put your name on there,
you're a physical therapist. Okay, you want to take classes,
you want to listen to podcasts about it, you want
to be educated about it, you want to surround yourself
in it. And then what you want to do is
(05:25):
get a job that's best going to support you in
doing that. So paycheck jobs, entry level jobs, kind of
the one you know, jumping from one lily pad in
life to the next lily pad in life. Those jobs
are hugely beneficial, But you want to pick a job
that's going to benefit you ultimately as a physical therapist.
(05:50):
So maybe that's a job working with children. Maybe that's
a job working with seniors. Maybe that's a job working
at a gym. Do you see what I'm saying? You
want to annow maybe this medical assistant position is actually
something that's helping you. But if the medical assistant position
(06:13):
is not gaining you any new skills, if it's not
allowing you to take that next jump to being a
physical therapist, then you might consider switching to a different job.
Do you see that?
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So, do you feel like this medical assistant position is
teaching you anything that's going to help you be a
physical therapist.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's not helping fully but in a sense like I'm
still working with patients, but it is not in the
same field.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, But but let's not knock it down too much,
right because a it's kept working with patients, and maybe
it's taught you something about I don't know medical records
or you know, intakes or write it, whatever it maybe
it's taught you. But if you feel like this position
(07:14):
has run its course, if you feel like it's taught
you everything that you could be taught from it, then
that is when you decide. I think I want to
change positions. So if you're going to go from a
paycheck job to a paycheck job and it's not yet
being a physical therapist, you want to make sure you're
(07:37):
at least spending your time growing, learning, And so what
I actually invite you to do is this, And it's interesting.
My sister is a physical therapist, so I get it.
She loves it, okay. And I've been to physical therapist
and they help to give me back my ability to
(07:58):
twist and turn and have more movement in my body.
So it's a very important role. What you might also
consider doing is contacting someone in your local area who
is a physical therapist. Someone you admire. Maybe they are
well known online, maybe they have great reviews, and I
would either a ask them could I job shadow you
(08:20):
for a day? You might say, you know, I have
this other job as a medical assistant, but could I
intern with you on the weekends in the evenings. You
might take them out to coffee or lunch and ask them,
you know, in your life, in your career path, is
(08:40):
there anything you would have done differently? Is there any
education you would have got before you became a physical therapist?
Would you have maybe specialized in physical therapy in a
certain way? Do you see what I'm saying. So, even
if you're in this medical assistant job right now and
it isn't fulfilling you fully, I think you can still
(09:04):
leap away from this, either getting another job that would
be another stepping stone to be the physical therapist you
want to be. Or maybe you stay in this job
because it is paying giving you a paycheck and it
is paying the bills. But outside of this, you know,
start networking and being around other physical therapists that can
(09:25):
teach you something. Have you considered that.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Okay? Well that's okay though, that's good? Right? Yes, See,
here's the thing. If you had said yes, and if
you had said I'm doing all that, I have nothing
more to learn, that would be pretty hopeless.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
But if you can leap away from this conversation with
some new ideas, things that ways in which you can
maybe spend your time differently, then you're growing. And as
long as you're growing in the essence of the show,
you're living full out. Okay. So I see a lot
(10:10):
of opportunity. Just kind of let it all kind of simmer,
kind of go with the flow as we're talking about today,
and then I think the decision will come to you.
Can you try that?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh, okay, wonderful. Hey, I love that You're going to
be a physical therapist, really really purposeful, important work and
you will be great at it.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And for everybody listening, when we come back, we're going
to be joined by Troy Hartman again. He may need
a physical therapist. You'll know what I mean. He is
one tenacious spirit. Stay with us, we'll be right back.
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Speaker 2 (15:33):
Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm Nancy Silari,
and today we are talking about going with the flow,
that is how you live full out. And as always,
we look for inspirational guests that we feel really exemplify
what it means to live full out, but also really
run with the theme. And Troy Hartman is such a
beautiful spirit. You'll know what I mean as we cruise along.
(15:55):
So welcome Troy to the show.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
So happy to have you. I you know, I feel
like I'm interviewing two people today. This is like the
tale of two troys, your story, and I guess the
audience will literally know what I mean, there's like two
of you throughout your whole life. But you know, I
think about little Troy. You know, you were always such
(16:21):
a good student. You love studying, you liked taking tests. Boy,
I could have really been friends with you growing up.
Yet you know, you were kind of awkward. You kind
of said awkward things. You were twisting and turning and
swirling around and kind of the odd little boy, and
little boy who didn't get a lot of Valentine's cards
when all the other kids did. I mean, you just
kind of felt like you were the outside looking in.
(16:44):
You tried to be low key, didn't want you know,
you were being bullied. And then of course you became
friends with the other bullies and they'se got you drinking
and stealing, and I mean you were on a reckless path.
And there we go, the tale of two troys, right,
the bookworm meets you know, the unruly one. But the
(17:06):
truth is, you really are such a good soul, like
even when you go through your kind of reckless you know,
adventurous times, your heart, your soul is really to me
what is the most inspiring. And my audience will also
know what I mean by that. As we move along. Now,
that tenacious spirit of yours did lead you to the
(17:28):
Air Force, and it was really there that again the
two troys collided. You were good at your studying, but
you really colored outside the lines in a what way?
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Oh you know, well, you know I carried that crazy
spirit that I sort of developed in my last years
in high school, where I was, again, I think, trying
to fit in, and the way I found myself fitting
in was was being somewhat reckless and doing these things
that you're not supposed to do. And I carried that
(18:01):
with me into the Air Force, which is a really
bad idea.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
What were some of the things you did though, what
were the no nos?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Well, if there was a rule, I was going to
find a way to break it, you know, just almost
for the sake of it, just to just you know,
because that was what was considered cool with the group
of guys I became cool with in high school. You know,
we like to find ways around the rules, and it
just became a challenge. And so yeah, I mean, there
(18:28):
are all the rules you have in the Air Force,
and it's like, Okay, how can I get around this?
How can I screwt around this?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And you were kind of living the movie Top Gun though.
I mean, I mean, for anybody who's seen the movie,
you were doing that. You were doing all the crazy
stunts that they told you not to do, and unfortunately
you did get kicked out because of why.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Well, you know, I was so I was there to
be a pilot, of course, and I was. I was
a good pilot. I was. I still am. I still
fly today. I got my start in the Air Force Academy,
and you know, I really really put my head down
and did my homework and you know, trained and trained
hard and really put extra time into becoming one of
(19:09):
their instructor pilots. But it it, it just didn't matter
how much of the studious Troy there was in there
to really do, you know, do what you needed to
do to earn the you know, earn the wings. I
still carried with me that desire to push, you know,
push the rules and break the rules. And I started
(19:31):
doing that with flying. I carried it into into flying
and I was taking airplanes and doing things I was
not supposed to do with them, doing aerobatics and aircraft
that weren't meant for aerobatics, you know, flying low and
buzzing you know, buzzing cars and flying under bridges and
power lines. Just I just I that spirit that I
(19:51):
had of recklessness was was not good to combine with
being in an airplane. And that's what I did, and
I ended up well, heck, I was out buzz cattle,
completely honest with you, that which I hate to It's
one of those stories that you know, I know, there's
plenty of people that go, what, oh gosh, why would
you do that? You know, poor cow? Remember I was,
(20:14):
I was nineteen or twenty at the time, and you
know it's kids, you know, boys especially, we just do stupid,
stupid stuff. Well and I am, you know, a stupid
thing though.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, the stupid thing, though, caused a poor cow probably
lost his life. He was so scared. And you you
actually actually crashed a plane. I mean there was yeah,
you were you were you were you were adventurous, we'll
call it that. But ultimately you did get kicked out
and you had to find your new passion. You know,
(20:52):
how were you going to still get that adrenaline kick?
And you got wind of literally skysurfing.
Speaker 11 (21:01):
What is that?
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Well, yeah, the long lost sport of skysurfing. The timing
was really crazy for me, because yes, I got kicked
out of the academy and I was lost. That was
the two years of my life. Well was about a
year that I was truly lost. I said, what am
I going to do with myself? I was on this
incredible path to be a fighter pilot and to fall
(21:24):
from that grace, you know, was it was such a
big fall, and I said, well, what do I do next?
I was fortunate. Actually, it kind of like you said,
go with the flow. Sometimes it's crazy how things happened.
But somebody tricked me in the going skydiving. Believe it
or not. I actually had a buddy who kind of
tricked me into it because I wasn't really searching for skydiving.
(21:45):
Actually seemed a little crazy to me at the time,
but he said, oh, I know you, you'd love this,
and he kind of talked me into going out to
this place. He said, We're going on a hike, and
it was a big lie. We showed up and there
we are at the skydiving center and I'm like, oh God,
really we're going to do this, And of course I
did it. I said, Okay, I'll do it. I'll do it.
I thought it was going to be a one time thing,
and I fell in love with it. I fell in
(22:07):
love with it that day. But what's really crazy is
that same day, after I get down and I'm on
top of the world saying, you know what, this is
what I'm going to do. I think this is what
I'll do next. There had just been this commercial that
came out on TV. This was nineteen ninety one, and
this commercial came out for Planet Reebok and it showed
(22:27):
this guy, you know, flying through the air, skydiving with
a snowboard on his feet, and everybody was blown away
by it, not just me. It was the first time
anybody had seen it. Somebody had a videotape of it,
and I said, look at this, look at this, and
I said, oh my god, that's what I'm going to do.
It was like a sign. It was like, that is
exactly what I'm going to do. And of course anybody
(22:49):
I told that too said they just laughed. They said,
oh god, you're a dreamer, You're nuts. But I was determined.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
I was dead.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
It seemed like fake.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yep, you know the thing is.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Scary.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Okay, honestly, skysurfing with a board bad idea. But the
Tale of two. Troy's good idea. You know and and
and you know what. You did it. You did it,
you did well at it. You you competed, you were
you were on fire again, the the adrenaline. Troy. He's back.
(23:26):
But I want everyone to stay with us because just
when Troy had life figured out, just when he was
back on top, you know, life happens and he had
to continue to go with the flow. So today we're
more It's more about you know, what are you doing
in your life? Are you going with the flow? Are
you resisting it? Like Troy. So when you lean into
(23:48):
the rest of his interview, see where in his life
he had to make some pivots, get really honest with himself.
And are you being again honest with yourself? Because to
do that, that is how you live full out. We'll
be back.
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Speaker 1 (28:04):
You're listening to Living Full Out with Nancy Solari. With
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Speaker 2 (28:22):
Thank you so much for joining us. I'm Nancy Silarian.
This is the Living Full Out Show and we are
talking about going with the flow. And we are continuing
our interview here with Troy Hartman. And again put on
your seat BELTZ there's more to come. And personally, Troy,
I think your life is frightening. I maybe I'm a whimp, okay,
but this whole you know be you know, skysurfing, all
(28:46):
the things that you would do with the planes, that's terrifying.
But I got to tell you, you know, you're just
one of those people that you your first love was
that adrenaline. Your first love was, you know, finding ways
to test your boundaries. But at the same time, you
(29:08):
were a reasonable man and sometimes you would pull back.
You made calculated risk, I guess I would say. And
as you went along in your career, you eventually did
segue from the skysurfing and you had a successful career
as a TV host and again being part of shows
(29:29):
there where you were again doing extreme, extreme challenges, I
would say, I and in the most successful show you
were on through MTV was called what it was? It
was wildly successful.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Yeah, senseless acts of video, Yes it was. It was
something else.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But they eventually, you know, you were doing it for
like three years, You're going into your four season and
the stunts are getting more and more wild. You were
getting a bit more nervous. You know, you decided you
had had enough. You were worried about letting the producers down.
But what I applaud you for is you you did
(30:11):
come to some senses. You did say I could die
at this, And what I think is interesting. As adventurous
as you were, you did know your limits. What did
that surprise you that you actually had a stopping point?
Speaker 8 (30:26):
Well, no, Actually, it's an interesting thing. I was very
torn while I was doing that show because I'm a
person that doesn't like to say no. I'm a people pleaser.
That's that's been me my whole life. That is one
thing that's never changed, and that that sort of got
me trapped. I was really into the show the first
(30:47):
couple of seasons because I was in my element as
far as my capabilities and the things we were doing
were within we're within my qualifications. But then it started
to get a little bit beyond that. We started doing
things that were that were outside of my comfort zone.
And that's okay. I'm you know, I'm okay going outside
my comfort zone. But a lot of times I like
to do it on my own terms. I like to
(31:08):
take my own steps. But I didn't want to say no.
And and so I continued on past the point where
I really was enjoying it because of the people please
are aspect, and uh, I started to get scared. I
actually really did start to get to a point where
I was getting scared.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And it takes a real man to admit that, Troy,
you were scared.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
I was getting scared. I was losing sleep. I didn't
want to let them down. I was I was tortured
by it because I I just said no, I got it.
I got to keep doing this for the show. And
but you know, I'm luckily I was able to I
was able to say that's it, no.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I got it.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
I got it back out of this and that was hard.
That was hard for me. That was actually very difficult
to tell them no, I can't do it anymore. No,
but it was fine. They were fine with it.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Now, when you transition, though, you you did step away
from hosting and you ended up going into estate and
you ended up getting your broker's license and you were
successful in that too. And along the way you met Sarah,
your wife, You got married, you had kids. I mean,
life got really really busy, but you still had that
(32:18):
desire to do more and you found out about.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
What well you know, yeah, I yes, the search was
always there, and it was it was a tricky period
of time when I got into being behind a desk
and you know, doing what normal people do, and for
me it was it was it was really kind of strange,
but I, you know, I did what I needed to do,
but I had it in the back of my mind,
(32:43):
what's next, What's next? And I discovered, uh, well, a
sport called speed flying, and it was just another new thing,
one of those new sports that people hadn't heard about,
you know, And I tend to I kind of gravitate
towards those new things. I say, oh this, You know,
I'm a pioneer, not just an adrenaline junkie, maybe even
more a pioneer than anything else. I love that that
(33:05):
you know, experimentation and being the first to do something
spirit And so I started what's called you know, it
was the biggest speed flying school in the world at
one time, and taught people how to be adrenaline junkies themselves,
you know, kind of kind of a give back at
this point. Now, I was I was bringing new people
into this wild and crazy sport and sort of sharing, uh,
(33:29):
sharing it with others, and that was that that worked
well for me. That was back in my place again.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know what I love about that is you were
still doing it yourself and Sarah, she was a jumper too.
I mean, you'd actually found a partner, a life partner,
that shared the same hobby. But here you were also
allowing other people to experience that dream, that that new
hobby of their own. And as you went along, eventually,
(33:57):
due to different circumstances, you had to closed the school.
Nothing from your doing, just you know, just how it
turned out. And as you went along though, there was
again we're talking about the two of you, right, the
two different choys. What's so interesting is you you decided
along the way, as many of your buddies were doing
(34:20):
jumps and they were testing the waters, and they were
still doing crazy acrobatic things, you know, in the air
and so forth. You actually grew in love with your
family and that weighed more to you. That meant more
to you than the adrenaline. To me, I think that
is one of the most touching parts of your story.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Yes, and it didn't it it's a weird thing to say,
but it didn't come as easily as you would think
because the draw that I had towards continuing to do
these things. Base jumping was one of my absolutely and
my wife and I met you know through Scot I think,
and she's a base jumper, and we'd do the wingsuit
based jumping, which is considered the deadliest sport probably in
(35:05):
the world. And I was a pioneer in that and
and my heart is still in that sport. So when
I made the decision as we started growing our family,
when I finally said, you know what, I'm not doing
that anymore, it wasn't It wasn't the easiest. I knew
it was the right decision because you know, but it
was hard. That was a that was a difficult thing
to say, I'm done with that because I know I
(35:28):
could still do it safely and I have a lot
of friends who still do it with families, and that's
their choice. That's fine. I just there's no way I could.
I could do that. My family is just the most
important thing to me, and I just don't want to
take any risk. I don't I don't need to. And
it's now it's it's become easier, of course over the
(35:49):
years now, so.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
You're not jumping anymore. But but what do you do
to kind of get that out of you?
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Though?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I mean, do you do you do kickboxing? Do you
you know, try to race a train, run? What are
you trying to do? I mean, there's got to be
something that allows you to tap that once in a while.
Speaker 8 (36:10):
I think, really, I still fly. I still I'm in airplanes.
Aerial photography has become one of my primary sources of
income now and so I'm still up in the air,
which that is what saves me from probably going crazy.
But I don't really do anything outside of yeah, nothing
crazy within that realm. I'm just in the air a
(36:33):
few times a week and that that satisfies that that need.
It's much tamer than it used to be. But I
think if I weren't still flying, I might go a
little crazier I think.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
So we're talking today though about going with the flow.
And because you have been such a spontaneous, reckless, you know,
pioneer do it first person. What is your number one
secret now to go with the flow? Because that's very
much the vibe that you are.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Well, you know, you've got to be able to see
the signs.
Speaker 21 (37:08):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
You know, it's one thing I think I've become and
I think we most of us as we uh you know,
as we get older, we start to understand and understand
ourselves a little better and the decisions we make. And
you know, I've I've always been a I've kind of
been a spontaneous person. Obviously, I just I make a
decision to do something and I I just get right
(37:30):
into it. And uh it's worked out well for me,
but it also has gotten me in trouble too. Uh
So I've just learned to take the pace a little
bit more slowly and kind of look for the signs,
kind of see things as the big picture in life.
Let's like, what really what really is going on here
with my friends, with family, things going on in the world.
(37:52):
Where is it that I belong? Because I think a
lot of us that's we search what is it we're
really here to do, and more importantly, what I feel,
what makes me happy? You know, just I'm a pioneer
and I'm an inventor, and I found myself more gravitating
towards being in the shop. And I have I have
more stuff coming up. I have some more exciting stuff
(38:14):
I'm working on in the world of jet packs. That's
kind of where I am now.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
But more things, more things up your sleeve. I'm worried
about though. Yeah, I'm so curious. Though, do you have
any regrets?
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Oh, well, geez. I mean the Air Force Academy thing is.
I still have dreams about it. You know, it's the
craziest thing. I still have this dream, a recurring dream,
that I am given the chance to go back to
the Air Force Academy and do it again. But I
have to start from the beginning, which you know, being
a freshman in any one of the military academies is
(38:50):
it's hell. I mean, it's it's it's a it's it's
not to be taken lightly. And the interesting thing is,
every time in the dream I take it, I say
I'll do it. I'll start from the beginning and I'll
do the whole thing over again, because you know, I
was there through my senior year, so I was very
much at the end of the whole thing, and just
just the subconscious of those dreams tells me it's a
(39:12):
huge regret because I know I would do it over
again if I could. So, Yes, absolutely, that's my biggest regret.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
But the most interesting thing is, gosh, I love this game.
If you had stayed with it, maybe you wouldn't have
done skydiving, right, maybe you wouldn't have met Sarah.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
Yeah, And that's on the conscious level, which really I
look at it and I go, it's a blessing. I'm
I think I'm much happier where I am, you know,
But I think I don't think it's so much where
my future would have gone that the regret is. I think,
looking at what happened, I'm actually I'm actually glad I
went this direction. I think it's weird. It's the subconscious
(39:56):
regret of not completing a task because I'm one of
those people that and that's one thing about me. I think,
probably the one thing about me that's gotten me the
most success is I just don't quit. I'm not a
natural a lot, a lot of different things, many things
I've taken on. I'm you know, there's others who are
more skilled out the gate. But you know what, once
(40:17):
I take something on you, I just don't quit, right,
you know.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
What, Troy, It's the week. Like I said, it's the
tale of two Troy's. He doesn't quit yet, he goes
with the flow. And I got to tell you, I
am so proud of you. I mean, you are such
a beautiful soul, great father, husband. I just don't think
you could have asked and done more in life. So
kudos to you. Really proud of you. Thank you, and
thank you for being on today's show. And everybody check
(40:41):
him out. Honestly, there's so much that we couldn't get
to today. In his story, it's it's again. You're going
to have to kind of hold onto your seat though
it's a little riveting. So thank you Troy, and for everybody.
We'll be right back after this break.
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(45:25):
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Speaker 1 (45:37):
You're listening to Living Full Out with Nancy Solary. As
a professional motivational speaker, Nancy can assist you to blow
through your setbacks and start living full out. If you
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at connect at livingfoullout dot com. Once again, here's Nancy.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Welcome back. I'm Nancyslari and this is a Living Full
Out show and we are talking about going with the flow.
And as I mentioned at the beginning of the show,
I am a planner at heart and I love it.
I do. I mean, I'm not so much so that
I like lay my clothes out the night before. Okay,
maybe I have once in my life or twice, but
(46:18):
I'm not that strict. But I do like going into
the day with the plan and I like to kind
of stack it all in the morning if possible, so
towards the end of the day when the energizer bunny
starts to go, well, you know, and that I know,
I don't have to feel guilty because I did it
all in the morning, or I can do what have fun.
(46:39):
What a concept. But the truth is I admire those
that can go with the flow. It's it's whimsical, it's
in some ways just inspiring to know that for many
many of them, they have no idea of how it's
all going to turn out, but everything clicks together at
the end of the day. Or what I think is
(47:01):
also kind of shocking and eyeing is that so many
of them, if they don't complete the task they suit
out to do, they're okay with it. I would haunt
me a little bit. I'd be going to bed going
in my brain going, I forgot to do this, or
let me write down a note so I can do
that tomorrow. But that is really the zest and the
(47:22):
greatness of life.
Speaker 11 (47:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
We are all different, but it is one of those
things that we have to look at. Okay, I'm a
planner and somebody else might be a going with the flower,
And again I admire them, but you have to think
sometimes in life, who are the best partners for you?
Now I have to admit I tend to do better
(47:44):
with those who are planners too, and anybody who's ever
had to pick up the slack or cover for others,
you know what I mean. At the end of the day,
a deadline is still a deadline. And for me, it's
helpful to know that I'm running with others who will
who will check off the same box as I am.
We can divide and conquer duties and at the end
(48:05):
of the day, we're all running for the same common goal.
And there's been times in my life I've dated that
go with the flower, and I've thought to myself, Wow,
you know, I'm with them because part of me longs
to be like them. But then I find myself in
some ways a little bit disappointed. I guess, I would say,
(48:28):
because I would look at them and think, man, we
could do so much more on our Saturday, or you know,
let's make the most of this life we have. But
I've learned over time that it's really great that we're
unique and different. But I have also learned that I believe,
whether it's business or personal relationships, you do have to
(48:50):
think about combining yourself partnering with people that are like
minded to you. It's not a golden rule. Everyone's got
their own way in the world. But for me, it's
worked better. I do think though that you know, we've
heard the saying opposites attract, and so sometimes if you
find yourself in a partnership, whether it be personal or professional,
(49:13):
that you want to seize that moment. Okay, what can
I learn about being with this person? You know? Do
they bring out the best of me? Do they have
me stretch and be my highest and best self? Or
do they teach me to let go and and kind
of get a little bit more creative, a little bit
more whimsical. I think there is beauty in that as well.
(49:36):
But what I want you to lean into today because
I've just rattled off a lot of things I do
and how I see myself, But I'm more curious about you,
and I want you to leap away from today's show
asking yourself. Are you a planner like me? Are you
a going with the flower? Are you matching yourself friends
(49:56):
with partnering with like minded folks like yourself? Or are
you in that opposite subtract?
Speaker 11 (50:03):
Boat?
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I don't think we can lose either way. But I
do believe very much that we've got this one life
and I treasure it. I really do, especially given that
I've lost my eyesight over the years due to retinitis pigmentosa.
I've learned over the years that there's no guarantees. We
have to seize every minute. And I guess that's why
(50:25):
I am a planner in hindsight. When I think about
losing my eyesight, it taught me that life is game on.
Life is meant to be lived. I want to see
what I can, even though it's very little. I want
to smell and touch and taste and do everything I
can because just like how there's no guarantees with eyesight,
(50:46):
there's no guarantees with life. But when we talk about
going with the flow today, that may be what you
want to do in life. It may be how you
want to experience life. May be what allows you to
kind of relax and feel zen and meditate and and
just allow life to wash over you and to be experienced.
(51:10):
Or you might be in the in the boat like me,
where you're wanting to take advantage of the opportunities that
are at your toes. You know, be able to stretch
and learn and grow and always be that student of life. Again,
I don't think you can lose either way, but it
is a good thing from time to time to take
(51:31):
that pause in life to kind of assess journal, you know,
have a chat with a friend, see a therapist, get
a life coach, do whatever you need to do to
make the most of every day.
Speaker 6 (51:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Remember, you can go to the Living Full Out Show
app and you can download it's free and you can
listen to so many great inspirational stories that will, you know,
give you that one idea that changes a problem in
your life, that allows you to what maybe go with
the flow differently, and when you do that, you will
be living your life full out. I believe in you.
(52:06):
Go out there, take action, remember most of all, to
have fun, because when we're doing that, we're allowing ourselves
to seize every moment in life and to grow and
learn and live full out.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Thank you for listening to The Living Full Out Show
with Nancy Silari. To learn more about this program, visit
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