Midweek Mini |14-Year-Old Murders Mom, Calls Friend to See Dead Body | Case of Carly Gregg - Love and Murder: Heartbreak to Homicide

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In today's episode, we're talking about a case of a 14-year-old girl who had the audacity

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to murder her mother and then the cajonist to call a friend and ask to come over to see
the dead body.
This, and I'm doing the, I don't know how you call it, the Italian hands, this is the
case we're talking about today.
Some LaMs welcome old LaMs, welcome new LaMs to love and murder, heartbreak to homicide.

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The midweek mini edition.
Before we begin, hi, my name is Ky and I want to tell you that this episode and all
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So without further ado, let's get into this midweek mini.
The Rankin County Sheriff's Office responded to a call of a shooting on Tuesday, April 16,
2024 at around 5.07 pm.
This happened in a farm-intentioned station subdivision in Brandon, Mississippi.
When officers arrived on the scene, they saw a man who had a gunshot wound to his shoulder

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and he told them that look, there's my wife's 40-year-old Ashley Smiley and they noticed
that she was dead.
He said he had arrived home earlier that evening to find this scene.
Police saw that Ashley had been shot once under the chin and twice in the face.
Wow.

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The man who was identified as Heath Smiley told police that his stepdaughter, 14-year-old
Carly Madison Gregg, had been inside the house when he got home.
He opened the door, saw his wife, she'd been standing there with a gun in her hand and she
fired at him.
That's how he got the shot in his shoulder, but he was able to wrestle the gun away from

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her and when he got the gun away from her, she ran out the house, ran through the backyard
and just left.
That's when he took this time to call 911.
Police brought out the Mississippi Highway Patrol helicopter and some more police to this area
and they were able to find Gregg.
I think it was like 30 minutes later at around 5.30 pm.

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They found her not far from her house.
She was arrested without incident and she was arrested on the charges of murder and attempted
murder.
They then transported her to Rankin County Juvenile Detention Center.
Now during the investigation, police have put in things together.
According to investigators, after allegedly killing her mother and I have to say allegedly

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because the case is still ongoing, but okay, let's just stop there.
After allegedly killing her mother, Carly invited a friend over to her house saying quote,
"ever seen a dead body."
I mean what?
In the actual F y'all.
What the f***?
Now, as she waited for her friend to get there, she said that she petted her dogs.

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She sang to them to keep them calm.
Dude, you just shot your mom twice in the face.
Are you serious right now?
Once her friend arrived, Carly showed the friend where her mom's dead body was.
Carly showed the friend the murder weapon and this all happened before the stepfather even
came home.

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Now what do we say, Lambs?
If you're gonna come in a crime, tell everybody you know and everybody you don't.
We're saying allegedly, but she invited this friend over.
This friend came.
That's the f***ing crazy part.
Again, Christina Bobo, you and I on the same page.
Where do these people find these people?

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Where do you find these friends?
This friend came up.
I'm gonna tell you right now, right now.
My best friend who I love like a brother, he is my big brother.
If he calls me right now, it says, "Hey, Kai, ever seen a dead body?
Come on over.
I'm gonna show you one."
I'm gonna be like, "Yeah, I'll be right there."
Click, "Dududududu."

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Hey, what went?
Hello?
Yes.
This person first and last name, look, I'll give you middle name said there's a dead body
at his house.
This is the address.
He invited me to come over.
I'm not stupid.
I'm not going over there.
This is his first middle, last name, date of birth where he was born.
I'll look, sing like a bird.

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I'm not the one.
But this person hopped on their bike because, you know, they're only 14.
Hopped on their bike or walked over to go see a dead body.
The mentality.
And you can't tell me it's because they're little and their brains haven't developed.
They know right from wrong.
I don't wanna hear that bullshit.
But let's get off the 14 year old.
I've done many cases where they're adults and they hot-footed over to their friends'

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house to see a dead body and more help you dismember a dead body and hide it.
So I don't understand this mentality.
Then investigators continue on that it's alleged that Carly had planned to kill her stepfather
when he came back to the house, which I completely see that happen because he said when
he stepped in, she was literally standing there waiting for him to come through the door.

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So I guess we have to say alleged for legal reasons, but the picture is painting itself.
Then on top of that, Carly's friend, I guess who came to see the body, told investigators,
they were like, "Look, please can I have immunity?"
I just went over there to scope it out and give you all information.
That's not what they actually said.
I'm saying this for myself.

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This is what it's in my head that they said.
The friend told investigators that Carly had premeditated to kill her stepfather.
She was, she said, this is alleged, this is literally what the friends told investigators
that she had saved two shots for her stepfather when he came in the door and that she was going

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to shoot him in his head and she was going to shoot him in his chest.
But let's continue saying alleged.
I mean, you have to stick to the legal course of it.
So Carly faces charges, including one count of first degree murder, one count of attempted
murder and one count of tampering with physical evidence.
Now during a hearing on March 20th from the juvenile court, a judge approved a request to

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charge her as an adult and then Carly was transferred to the Ranking County Adult Detention
Center.
Carly, of course, puffed at her whittled chest and pled not guilty to the charges.
I'm not guilty, your honor, even though I told my friend to come over and see this, even
though the second person that I literally tried to kill and he saw me with his own eyes

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survived and told officers, I'm not guilty because I'm 14.
She pled not freaking guilty.
Anyway, she had a bond that was set at $1 million.
Now just so you know, under Mississippi law, teen defendants are continuously evaluated
to determine whether they should remain in adult detention or not.

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Right now, when this happens, she was 14 right now, she's 15.
Also moving forward, there's going to be another hearing that's going to determine if she's
competent to stand trial.
The reason for this is that her attorney claimed that Carly suffers from mental disorders
of fucking course she does.

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And that she had a change in medication a week before the alleged murder took place.
They also said that shortly after she was arrested, she was put on several medications,
included M-amblify, M-bili-fi, M-bili-fi, M-bili-fi, okay, which is an anti-sacadic medication.

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And she also told the judge, the lawyer also told the judge that Carly had been hearing
voices while in prison and this is what caused her to need a medication swap twice since
she's been in prison.
I mean, can we talk about before she was in prison though?
What medications was she on and what was the medical diagnosis that she has a mental

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issue and that she hears voices and has visual hallucinations and all this stuff?
Because if you're telling me she was placed on this medication, anybody could have just,
you could have paid a doctor, an unscrupulous doctor to pull this child on medication and
then certain medications can give you hallucinations, which then you switch medications and blah,

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blah, blah, blah, build a case off of insane.
But where is before she went into jail?
Where are you telling me that she was actually diagnosed as having mental health issues?
But that is still not an excuse because I personally know people who have mental health
issues and they run out and kill anybody.
So why is it she gets mental health issues?

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She knew what she was doing.
She saved two bullets to kill her father, her stepfather.
She called her friend over to come see a dead body.
Let's blame mental health so that she doesn't go to prison, shall we?
Allegedly, all allegedly, he ain't gonna sue me.
So the prosecution came back and argued that having mental illness does not entitle someone

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to take another person's life.
Thank you very much.
The prosecution also told the judge that Carly's defense attorneys refused to let them do
a mental evaluation that was provided for the state or that was provided by the state.
They're only trying to do a mental health evaluation with the people they have.

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So like I said, they paid a bunch of doctors to give her medicine and say all of this stuff.
Like I said.
Ah, crazy and I'm laughing because of the craziness of it, not that anything dealing with this is funny.
So her defense came back and said that their physician is currently performing a mental

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health evaluation on her.
Then you'll have the paperwork and all the reports by or after July 12th.
So the judge, Judge Dewey author said that I hear both of y'all the same.
I hear what the defense is saying.
However, I think along with the prosecution that Carly poses a danger to society, I agree

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that she needs to have another opinion for the mental health.
So we're going to have the state do an evaluation after your doctors are completed with their
evaluation.
We're going to have the state do another evaluation on her and we're going to use the
Department of Mental Health for that.
And also she's going to stay where she is right now and we're going to keep the $1 million

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bond.
Is that it?
Is that it?
Okay, okay, move, move, move.
I have a seven o'clock T time.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Court dismissed.
Didn't say the last part, obviously.
So in April, Carly's lawyers requested a reduction in her bond again and the judge came
back and said, didn't I tell you it had a T time?
I mean, I know that was about a month ago, but still.

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No, then in May, they filed another motion to reduce the bond saying that this time they
brought forth some information saying that look, judge.
I know you have a T time and everything, but let me just, let me just talk to you real quick.
Carly was an honor roll student at Northwest Rankin High School.
She has no previous criminal history.

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Can you please reduce the bond?
I mean, she made a's and b's your honor.
Clearly, that speaks to some character.
What?
So the prosecution said, oh, yeah, yeah, she was an a b student.
Actually, we pulled those same records that you pulled.
And what you forgot to tell the judge is that Carly had allegedly brought contraband, which

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was a knife to her school before this whole incident happened.
And she has a bunch of other disciplinary actions against her record.
So I don't know why you didn't mention that.
You just mentioned an honor roll and she has no criminal history.
Yes, she has no criminal history, unless you look into the school's records and then she
has school's disciplinary issues.

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So obviously, Carly still where she is on July 2nd, Carly appeared in court for a motion's
hearing.
Attorney Bridget Todd said that Carly had been struggling in solitary confinement, which
who wouldn't struggle in solid it solitary confinement.
Look at how everyone was doing during COVID.
They were losing their freaking minds.

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So yeah, that's yeah.
And she continued on that they had been given her a number of different medications, plop,
a blast.
So you're just pumping her full of drugs, huh, to make sure that she doesn't pass this mental
health evaluation, huh?
I see what you're doing.
I see what you're doing.
I just hope that the Department of Mental Health also sees what you're doing.

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So the attorney goes on to tell the judge of an incident that happened in the jail where
quote, an adult inmate who was being housed in the same pod area as Carly was making threats
to harm and physically assault her.
But I'm just going to ask you a question, just podcast her to attorney because you know,
we're on the same level.

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That's sarcasm.
Did you not hear the part about where she shot her mom twice in the face and once under
the chin and was saved two bullets to shoot her stepfather once in the head and once in
the chest.
I'm just asking for a couple of my friends, they're called lambs.
I'm just asking for their benefit.
Did you not hear that part?
I mean, I guess you're doing your job and getting paid and going home to sleep nicely in

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your home with your kids.
But I guess, you know, money is what makes the world go round, not morals.
So judge Arthur said that nope, Carly staying exactly where she is and said quote, it's
jokingly referred to as the Hilton of Dills throughout the state of Mississippi.

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The Rankin County Sheriff's Department runs a very safe jail, which really, I don't know
what jail is safe, but okay, for the case moving forward, the state will present three
items, which the prosecution is going to more than likely use to build a case against
Carly, a mental health evaluation, her former medical records and the documents from the

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Rankin County school district, her former medical records, I, this is what this is what
I was asking for.
What does it say in her former medical records?
Does it say she has mental health issues?
I want to know.
Anyway, Carly is currently scheduled to stand trial in September.
And I'm actually going to put that on my fricking calendar.

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And speaking to neighbors, they completely couldn't believe that this had happened.
They were sad over these tragic events.
One neighbor said quote, truly sad.
What could have happened to get these results?
How do this kind of anger be on anybody's mind and how does this happen?
And another neighbor just simply said that this was quote calculated.

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As I said before, Ashley was only 40 years old.
And she was a math teacher at Northwest Rankin High School, where like I said, Carly had
been going to school there herself.
Before Ashley was a teacher at Northwest, she was a teacher at Warren Central High School.
Quote, you can't fathom those kinds of thoughts.

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You just wouldn't think that a child would do anything like this.
It just feels like there's something missing.
There's something wrong.
It's like a level of caution that you don't think something like this would happen.
This was a quote from another neighbor, Lauren Martinez.
And that is the case of Carly Gregg.

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What do you think about that?
In the poll questions, I'm going to ask you, do you think she had previous mental health
issues?
Or do you think this is something that her defense team is building up?
That is the question I'm going to ask you in the polls.
So go ahead and answer that.
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Everybody you know and everybody you don't.
That is all I have for you for this mid-week mini and I will see you in the next episode.
Bye.
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