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June 1, 2021 52 mins

Lisa Cleary went through a bad breakup at age 31. In addition to grieving the demise of her relationship, she lost her job and ended up homeless. She slept on friends’ sofas for months. She felt defeated and demoralized—this was not where she expected to be at 31. And while her life unraveled, her friends’ lives seemed to play out perfectly. Lisa got knocked down hard, but through her pain and struggle, she developed grit and perspective. She shares her experience in her book, How to Survive a Breakup:  When All of Your Friends Are Birthing Their Second Child, and she joins us to discuss the question, “Can anything good come from a bad breakup?”

Specifically she delves into:

  • Toxic Milestones:  the tendency for women to berate themselves if they’re “missing the mark”
  • How she felt the need to “prove her worth” with the perfect relationship and high-powered job
  • The problem with being a Type A personality when dating
  • Trying to make a relationship something it isn’t meant to be
  • The beauty in honoring the “process”—as opposed to the relentless focus on the “outcome”

Join us to consider the “good” we can glean from “bad” in various realms of love and life!


Lisa Cleary

Website: http://https://lisacleary.com/

Dr. Karin

Website: http://loveandlifemedia.com/

Instagram: @dr.karin

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