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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What mattso wakes up in the morning, he gets into
the shower and to the top of his lungs he
sings Wane because that.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
All right?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
The radio show now on the best and Jammy.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Thanks Jerry, and welcome back everybody if you are listening live.
Today is a Saturday, November fifteenth, twenty twenty five, and
we have entered our number two New Marrow dose of
Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are live from the studios of
w m n H ninety five point three FM and
Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Jenny is here at the news
table and of course today is the big day. Swarmy

(00:45):
Fest is here tonight at Jewel cannot wait. We've been
in the first hour. We played a bunch of the
bands that are going to be playing tonight. We played
one song from each actually and right now we have
joining us in studio Malcolm and Bruce from Lee of Solace.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hey, guys, what's going on? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
So we should, uh, we should explain what you guys
do and then we'll talk a little bit about that
because people, I'm sure people hear the name Legion of Solace. Uh,
they they think you're They probably assume you're a band,
which is not actually what Legion of Solace is, although
would be a cool name for if you guys ever
think thought about starting a band.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
If if we were closer to each other geographically.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Possibly, Yeah, there is some distance there, right, because so, Bruce,
you're from Massachusetts, right I am?

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Now, yeah, I've been here for almost fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Fifteen years, okay, and Malcolm, you're from far away.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I'm from Lynchburg, Virginia.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah. Yeah, so you drove up for I was on
a bus, a bus, yeah, along a trip?

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Was that sixteen hours?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Sixteen hours? Oh my god?

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Would have been shorter if they'd have been on time.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
Oh yeah, it would have been like mine at night
compared to one o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Oh my goodness. Well, well, I'm glad you made it.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
That wasn't that bad.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
I mean, if anything, the delays helped it because it
may my layovers when our one of them was going
to be like an hour and a half layover. Oh
really yeah, so literally by them being delayed themselves, it
cut out all my delays, my layovers, so like, yeah,
it was great.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, yeah, So what what do you guys do. What
is Legion of Solace exactly?

Speaker 5 (02:16):
We are a hub for independent bands that need marketing, advertising,
promoting other bands for their event, sponsorship, for their event hosting,
for their event on occasion. Well, we'll actually cater special events.
The VIP pre party last night we brought barbecue, pulled
porkloaded baked potatoes with us. Nice everybody fed. Everybody was nice,

(02:41):
happy and fed. Yeah yeah, saying karaoke steps this came
in did a little private performance for us.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
Excellent little karaoke I got. I got Bruce, if you
want to see it. Thing is some karaoke. Oh really,
don't worry. I got myself looking at the I'm a
singer in a band.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
So yeah, if you said like you said, I was
starting to the band, I am in the band actually
and I still uh, like last year, I told you,
I still work with the guys Hateful Bosa. I used
to be with Everything Hiatus right now and I just
got to get that worked out.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
But I could still go play with those guys.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
But I actually started something to a side project of
my own with some other guys called Numb my site,
and uh, they want to do like old school new
metal uh, you know runge era like stuff, which is
when I grew up on most of this.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
And that's great. So now it's like, all right, welcome,
I just got to get back to your clean vocals. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
I'm normally a growler and screen where I'm like, I'm
deep into it. I'm more so like mine elevated from
when I started out going to choir and all that
stuff and then start out like the regular bands I did, Yeah,
just doing you know, growls and screams, you know, yeah, yeah,
so like Lamb of God type stuff, slipknot type stuff
like you know, yeah, and sometimes harder. So like it's

(03:52):
that's my realm. That's where I found my peace, right right? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
And how did you guys meet and get connected? And because?
And how long has Legion of Solis existed? Like did
you guys start it.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
Or well it started out with me Tuesday and a
few others beforehand in another group that was trying to
do the same thing. Oh okay, but it didn't work
out that way. Well, so we ended up starting our
own things so that way we can cancel out all
the flaws that we see and what is working with

(04:23):
the music industry. You see what I'm saying, Like you
see all these other people out here on the internet.
That's also like advocating for you know, clean ways of
doing music. That's what I've always wanted from the get go.
It's especially knowing that I do the radio, my radio
show callcording to a melica where I want to play,
you know, an unknown band right beside Godsmack, lamb, cred,

(04:44):
little filth, whoever. But just enjoy music in general, how
it used to be back in the day where you
can just go, hey, hey, play my play my play
my song right right, and it's like, all right, we'll
bring it in here, give it here, all right, Well
this is a new song about such a such that
we don't even know. But here we go, and the
next thing, you know, boom, it's like the new You
know what I'm saying, it like we heard it. Thank
you Jesus, we needed that, right, you know what I'm saying, Like,

(05:05):
I like that fresh smack in a face of something new,
and I'm tired of hearing it in the world.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
And everybody's like, well, I'm getting bored with music. Man.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
I just don't know what to do. I literally do
a thing on my show where it's called you know,
Mystery Times with Malachi Well, I take thirty may I
literally give you thirty seconds to a minute and a
half of dead air to go scrolling through and find
something I've never found before, whether it's YouTube, Spotify or whatever.
And like, dude, how can you get bored with music?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Right? Right?

Speaker 6 (05:30):
And if you actually go into the underground world, which,
like I said, I have you a list right here, Yeah,
and you find a good you know pool where people
are bringing in people from out of town, where there's
a lunch of local locals playing everything. Yep, it's an
amazing thing. You find your new class of music that
you might like. Yeah, a new genre that you never

(05:51):
knew that you come across.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, there's so much music being made, more than ever before.
And it's more you know, because of the Internet. It's
more easily accessible than ever before.

Speaker 7 (05:59):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I'm a gen x er, so my generation is really
the last generation to grow up without the Internet. So
I remember, and don't get me wrong, I have wonderful
memories of going to the record store and flipping through
and finding things you know.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Eight yeah, yeah, I was at the ending of it
at the beginning of Yah, yeah, like, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
So that was great and everything, but I wouldn't but
I wouldn't trade where we have now to go back
to that, you know, because sometimes you'll hear people say, well,
back in my day, we you know, we actually went
to the record store and it was great. And you know,
today the internet's ruined everything, and it's like, no, the
Internet has made it so that you can have access
to literally anything, and it's it's wonderful.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Right, there was there was something to be said about
the friendships that were built in the record store. Sure,
waiting for the midnight release.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
But yeah, but that's the thing, waiting for the midlight release.
But how long do those friends last? Because me myself,
I feel more along the last Go spend some time,
like if you are any person who loves heavy metal music,
whether it's an underground festival or even a stream festival,
go spend seven days in the campground right along with

(07:05):
other people. Yes, yeah, I did it for eight years straight. Really,
I mean all the Blue Ridge Rock Festival. My band
The Hateful Bones, we played in the first two. Then
we you know, I went to every last one I
was because I was my only outlets where I can
have a go see some good bands and make it affordable.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah yeah, and then like you.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
See what I'm saying, So like, not only do we
have our scene which was slowly thriving back up because
I grew up in my hometown, I've seen it go up,
I've seen it go down. I mean even see the
band Hateful Bones before I joined them keep that realm
up for the longest time and then it drops off.
But now it's opening back up more now. So with
this place called to Grab our k Bar, which they

(07:44):
don't even know that I'm advocating for them. Yeah, Like
I go to see these shows and I love what
they're doing there. Yeah, there is no pay to play
if you wanted, if you can, you know, want to
opt off for the chance to go play with some
of these bands, like Hunt the Dinosaur came down there.
You know, they played a bunch of little band's play
for them. You know a Jersey Skuy has a bands
play for them, you know, and getting these opportunities to

(08:05):
do this without having to worry about you having to
pay to play, and you're getting paid.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
To do so, so why not.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
You know what I'm saying, Like, that's what that's what
I advocate for because that's what we push forward, leadsing
to solid that's who we are. There is so much
way to where you. I mean, if you're out here
to get money, okay, but do it honestly, dude, do
it honestly. Don't break the artist back who's putting in
ninety five percent of the work. You're only doing five percent.
Whether you're promoting on the internet like us, or you're

(08:35):
actually a manager, you're only doing five percent because you're
sitting on your tushi. They are the other ones over
there playing the instrument. Because I know both sides, because
I play in a band. I want my music to
get heard.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
That's the reason why I have another radio show, because
I want to give you the platform, whether you can
come to either something like Matt Connerson, who is very
I'm not gonna lie throughout this whole entire radio industry world.
There's not many people like you anymore, many people like
me anymore. Just hear good music together with whatever, right,

(09:05):
So I mean not people the people are advocating like
you do for it.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I see it.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
I actually going into other people's stuff in other cities,
and I mean there might be few far between, but
they're doing it more so underground radio like me where
they're doing the podcast they do and it just got
a lot of followers.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Try sending an audio file a clear channel and getting right.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yeah, exactly. It's a blessing to have you.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
And then like we wanted to be known that you
have a source where wherever you put your blessed wat
and tears, and we will help you promote it in
any way, shape or form. Yeah, you have repsorships that
we can help you with, you know, with your band
and all that stuff. We have ways that we can
advocate for each other and get to the promised land
exactly without being a liar cheating still or I'm like,

(09:51):
get you the side list, but this really you just
give me.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Your life, right taking it all.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
We want to help in any way, shape or form
keep this society alive.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Even if it's gas money for the next gig.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Like you know what I'm saying, Like this is like
when we're doing this, this is coming out of our
own time.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
I go home. I literally had to work all the
way until Monday night.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Yeah, a double shift that I won't even supposed to work,
and then I got on a bus at five o'clock
in the morning to come do That's how passionate we
are about it.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
That's what we'd love.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
I want to see the music scenes striving and go
and be honest, especially knowing that my daughter is one
to eventually be in that industry.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Ye.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Yeah, So why not have myself or our company make
this a big enough hubs where you have an honest
place that you can go to. It's like, you know,
you can go, you know, I can get signed and
the next thing, you know, oh you old, you know
the record company millions dollars, you got to you got
you gotta go out and just you gotta sole your soul.
You know, you gotta run the streets for six months

(10:53):
and nine months out of the year and you know,
oh man, I only come home with this much money.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, you know absolutely that.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
That's why merch fees keep going up and up and
ticket fees keep going up and up, because the only
time the bands eat is when they're on the road.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely one. We should play this.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
This is a little bit of a side street, but
we should uh interesting uh And I don't know if
I'm saying, I don't know if any of us know
exactly how to pronounce how to pronounce this to dessess us,
it's d E C E S s U S. It's
the name of the band. This track is called Dark Flames.
But really interesting story. So Jenny had brought this to
my attention initially, and then you wanted us to play it.

(11:35):
She the lead singer of this band. And I don't
even I'm not even sure how to say her name correctly.
But she's Miss Chili. She won the Miss Chili contest.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
In Miss un in the Miss Universe pageant, in the Miss.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Universe pageant, and uh, she brought out her part of
her her presentation, I don't know what the term.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
Is guitars, Yeah yeah, and started playing one of her
own songs.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
And they right, and that that's something that had never
been done obviously at one of these pageants. Was pretty
pretty unique and it paid off.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
She won, right, I see, I say. I said the
same thing to them last night. I said, if anybody
helped to prove not only the best marketing in the
freaking world, ye, Like, how.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Smart is that? Hey?

Speaker 6 (12:17):
I'm hot, I'm gonna go do this pageant, right, I'm
gonna win it. I'm gonna shock them with doing this
amazing talent with my voice.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
But also in the end, you're showing how beautiful and
how amazing of an art heavy metal is.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yes, it's not.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Just you're you're you're you're headed with you know, one stone,
two berries with one stone. You're knocking it out and
being hot and knocking on this, you know, being a model.
And then also you're showing that heavy metal is not
something to be scared of. Heavy metal is something to embrace.
R Like art sculptures are you know, the sixteenth taple
Like it's an art beautiful, it's and.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
It's and it's not a gimmick like you know, she's
legitimately very talented. Yeah. Yeah, as as we're about here,
so let's give this a spin. If you're just joining us,
we're talking with we have Malcolm and Bruce here from
Legion of Solas and of course it is Swarmy Fest Day.
We'll talk more about that in a minute, but yeah,
check this out. This is I'm gonna go with decessus
for how you pronounce the name of the band, But
I really have no idea, but hopefully that's close. But

(13:16):
this is really good and the track is called Dark Flames.
Check it out.

Speaker 8 (14:00):
So that all around lone the voice an.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
There sort of.

Speaker 8 (14:08):
Loot jo there does b Organ or giant job Lord.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Don't want radiant? Why why the way they did? What diog.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Oh no es o lord the.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Words of dies b.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
Ohr dies Lon boy boy no.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Boy dic.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Here here we got all right? Well that is that
is a decessus. That is miss Chilly on lead vocals.
That's fantastic, and that is Dark Flames. There's a video too,
so you can you can see her and the rest
of the band in action if you if you check
that out on YouTube. If you are just joining us,
this is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from

(19:19):
the studios of WM and H ninety five point three FM.
Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere. Go
to my website Matt connorton dot com slash live for
all your live streaming options, social media links, contact infos,
show archives, et cetera, et cetera. It is Saturday, November fifteenth,
twenty twenty five, and it is Swarmyfest Day. Swarmyfest of course,
is Tonight at Jewel, presented by Loud Entertainment co headliners

(19:44):
Sepsis and Silent Season. We also have Under the Horizon
Pulsifier Temptress, the Cherry Fog and featuring Lilithcat and the
Blood which Matt Connorton unleashed. We are very proud once
again this year we are this show is one of
the official sponsors of the event. Along with our friends
from Legion of Solace, we have Malcolm and Bruce are

(20:04):
here with us in studio. Also Speed Demons Promotions, Violet's
Rain BPS Records, and Denny Lynz or DANAE. Linz Creations.
Not exactly sure how to say that, but we'll meet
everybody later, but come down say hello to us, enjoy
a great night. Jenny and I will be there really
looking forward to it and getting to hang out with everybody.
Come say hello, yes, yes, and of course we do

(20:24):
have Malcolm and Bruce here with us in studio. Malcolm,
you should tell us more about your show.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, it's like I said, it's cornsy, was Malachai. It's
the same thing.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
It's like what Dark Message is doing when you can
get a chance to do her show, because right now
she's basically with school, so she's like heavy busy with that.
But because we're trying to get everything, like right now,
this is just the foundation, yeah, so what we are
really trying to accomplish. So she's doing her part and
I'm doing my part with quaranty, with Malachai and when

(20:55):
I came, especially with the weird sleep schedule of my job.
And I will even call you shout out to texas
In because I got some people watching them. Shout out
to my hometown, Listsburg, Virginia. If you're ever in Lisburg, Virginia,
you want a cheesy WSTNT, come get come to texas In,
come see me anyway. Definitely, what I do with my
radio show is requests, So it's an opportunity for you

(21:15):
to be something like this, whether either you can call
up soon I will have it where I have a
WhatsApp going through its where you can call in and chat,
especially if you're just a heavy music or of whether
it's the underground or mainstream, and just talk about your experiences.
So it's kind of like a podcast lass radio show,
but for the most part, it's there for the unassigned
and up and cooming talent. But if you're a PLAC

(21:36):
person from somewhere like you know, California, Washington, somewhere where
I can't get to immediately to come and watch the
show that night. Yeah, and you're just an averg go
over the underground world and you want to you know,
shout it out and like hey, I want you to
go to YouTube, especially as long as it's good audio
or even a video. As long as everything is good,
send it to me. I will play it. There is
no charge, there is no nothing. All I asked for

(21:57):
you to do is just share, share our platform so
that way not only the people rest people in Washington
who are playing underground and spending their money, blood, sweat
and tears sitting in a recording studio cramped up, getting
carpal tunnel playing these songs yep, you know, on repeat,
just to get it recorded. Because like I said, I
know both sides. Yeah, And I want you to be

(22:18):
able to have a platform to where you can go
to and just say hey. One of the fans is
like hey, I mean, you know, I'm from you know,
I think I've had one from uh what was Mona from.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Mona's and Lean, Norway.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Yeah, she's she's like she used to be a part
of like originally we used to where we met him him,
I I recruited him into this company from a place
called from another radio show that I also love it
he loved called Radio Gods the forty two. Okay, like
Radio Me and Radio Gods the forty two kind of
like started doing like she started doing her thing first. Yeah,
but I was like always wanting to do it, and

(22:52):
I was like, well, she gave me an inspiration to
do it, but I wanted to do mine. Yeah, the
way kind of like how you're doing it, but also
adding into where you can come in and watching the video,
you'll see me down in the bottom corner of my
own little light show rocking out with you. So it's
like you're fully involved. Yeah, And I want that's how
I want it to be. Like to whether you call
in where if you want a video chat into me

(23:13):
and just talk to me. I want you to have
a full access radio of old school rebel radio where
if I wanted to call this number locally, anybody, if
I want to call you and say, hey.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Is your refrigerator running?

Speaker 6 (23:24):
You better go gadget, Like I want you to be
able to do that I want you to be able
to call and say, hey this man I saw you
know and you know Gothensburg, Sweden, and I want you
to freaking just like you know, if anybody knows where
Gotharmax Sweeten is, that's where Avatar is from.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
The guy the like. I want you to check these
guys out, and I watched them plan on your show.
Yeah boom.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Then share the feed if you especially if you're over anywhere,
you know away from Virginia area, East Coast, are you're
in the West Coast, shares in the West Coast, if
you're from the West Coast, and you know you're in Sweden,
and you see if I'm over there, shared there. We
want this to be so international, you know, world bound
to where anybody like I've even had people coming to
my show when I used to do it on Twitch
and play to nobody for four years straight, and I

(24:08):
would have people come in on Twitch every now and again,
and it'd be somebody from India who cannot play metal
music over there, like they can't just have it playing mainstream,
so they would literally would sit me there stuff before
and I've played it over here on my stream multiple times.
You know what I'm saying, like, so that's what Cornthry
and Malachi is. And like I said, I want to
be able to teach people that you can you can't
get bored with music. That's what like if you actually

(24:31):
are a music lover, go tumbling down the rab hole,
you know what I mean. Nights, I've been set just
get finding music to play on my list that's not
even that I don't know has already made it not
or not yet or whatever that I can't even find
the full credibility on it online yet about it, whether
they're signed or unsigned, or I've been coming, I'm going
to find and play, especially if I don't hear them
on extend radio, if I don't hear them on regular

(24:53):
FM radio, or they're gonna get played to my stuff,
because that's everybody deserves to.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Be heard by every Yeah, but it's available.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Yeah, just FM radio, not just AM radio, not just
satellite radio or whatever you listen to.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yeah, especially in the digital age, because in the sixties, seventies,
early eighties, it used to be you could put a
stack of records in the trunk of your car, drive
across the country, stop at radio stations, and now all
of a sudden you have national exposure.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Because of the conglomeration of national mainstream radio. You can't
really do that anymore because because if you don't have
if if you're not even registered with Distro kid, they're
not even going to look at you.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Right with seriousness? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
So being able to have Internet platforms like Quarantine with Malachi,
like Dark Mistress, like Lee Janaura, when we get back
to doing that, it gives anybody around the world the
opportunity to get back into that car foot records back
into their trunk and barnstorm the digital world right wide,
barnstorm tens ten states. When you can barnstorm one hundred countries.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
Right, yeah, absolutely at one time, instantaneously.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, it's like, oh, I can't be in you know,
multiple places at one time. Yes, you can.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
That's what the digital world is giving you. Especially like
if you go look at just go look into the
history of the TikTok world of just underground heavy metal,
it's a community there that is so.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Like vastly humongous, especially just the short time that.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
That TikTok has been out, and there are TikTok bands
that are playing national, national festivals they're like in that.
I believe they're called Electric Callboy now yeah, oh yeah,
I know that is yeh. Didn't they originate on TikTok?
I think so, yeah, and they're one of the hottest
things in the market, right Oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
I mean that's saying if you can get famous off
of TikTok man, I mean, TikTok something that somebody coded
it was never expecting to let I mean literally themselves
hit the stardom that they did. Howbody knows what they're
going to be like with anything that they make, if
it's going to be like completely right, right, but you know,
then you go then you know this and then like

(27:00):
people are getting famous off and just doing TikTok, which actually,
I mean I wasn't against tiktokingturst, but that was like
Tiktoking's like all right, well, now what happens. We're helping
you to be more independent and be able to I mean,
you're your supporters. If they really support you, they will
support you one hundred and ten percent all the way
through it, even whether it's buying your merch, you know,

(27:21):
supporting your streams and you're a star or two every
now and again, whatever you know, and that's great, that's
what I love. And like I'm about to sing start
doing my show over there, so that's even you know
what I'm saying, Like I haven't fun fernagual whether I
want to fully yet because like what if I mess up?

Speaker 4 (27:37):
And like there's a band that already you know, because
I looked.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
All I did was do the research that I could find,
and then it's like, oh, they're already signed, and then
like but whatever, from what I heard a lot of
people say, they don't really care what you play on it.
That's the platform I'm looking for. I'm looking for the
platform where you allow me to be me. If I
want you to sit here and run this venture of
being pretty much the old school whatever it was, this
jockey like just sleep disc. You know what I'm saying,

(28:02):
I want the full experience of doing that. I want
to find a platform that is.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Gonna allow me to do that. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Like other than like I understand if you need to
write credentials for doing FM radio, but if I'm doing
my own radio show, should I'm not here to play
your music to make money. I'm here to entertain you, right, exactly.
If my entertainment deserves a dollar or two, so be it.
That's hey, I'll take it. You know what I'm saying, Like,
who's gonna take? Who's gonna do? Not free money?

Speaker 4 (28:28):
But I'm not here for the mine.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
I'm here to entertain you and teach you something and
show you that you can support music without ever having
to drop of diame unless you want.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
To, right, exactly exactly.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
That's all it takes. A like takes you a long way.
A share takes you a long way. Yes, yes, I
mean that's all it takes. Literally, and you never know
if that share could take you to swing in somebody
else's friend bank that ends up knowing somebody in the
seven Dust camp or or you know, the Lamba God
camp or you know any of the hardcore camps. You

(28:59):
know what I'm saying, Like, you can go level up
with a Slayer. Let's do it, you know, why not
even though they're not really doing much anymore. Like there's
an example so period, Like that's the whole point. We're
all out here to do the you know, be rock
stars in our own way and superheroes to somebody, So
why not do it the right way? Because if you

(29:20):
the more you do it the right way is the
more honestly, then everything will stay true. The more it
becomes a cesspool, the more it becomes evil. It's like, oh, yeah,
I think I might need to stab you so I
can use you as something solid to stand on and
get me.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
I don't need that. I don't want that. That's not
what I want.

Speaker 6 (29:38):
I want to be able to help people out and
give them the truest form of helping you to, you know,
and make your cure bigger without having to worried about
like did that man ever screw me over? Did he
ever take something else? You know, take something off the
back end?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
You know?

Speaker 6 (29:55):
No, I was always straightforward to you. I never beat
it around the bus. You know what I'm saying. It's
straight forward. Everything is, you know, record it out, tabbed out, whatever,
It does not matter. We are going to always be
honest with you, and even if to the point where
if there's a point you that hey, we can't make
it happen at this moment, even if that means we
have to tell you now that we can't make it happen,

(30:17):
either whether it's by our own accord or just it's
just not the right time.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
We're going to keep it honest with you. We're not
gonna like oh man, we'll talk to him next week.
Don't worry about it. Keep going out there playing hills though,
keep going to make the money. No, yeah, if we.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Can't, if we can't make the tour happen, look to
take this time, go go get some new music elevated.
You will election know when we can get you on
a tour record or will election know when we can
have your run? If you can't make you this run
while you're waking your tour, we'll get you next tour.
We'll stay in touch with you, get in your music
when you're about to drop a new album. If you
want to do it, you know, an online interview, hit us.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Up, We'll do it. Whatever.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
Whatever we can make propaganda wise, come to you. We're
gonna do it right of course, even all the way
to like you. If you're an up andcoming honist and
you want to get married online, hey I can marry you.
I mean, like I said, we want to hit every
corner of the realm and leads no solids, whether it's
we want to give you a heavy metal you know,
awesome marriage, or we want to help your band strive,

(31:13):
or we want to help this venue stay alive because
like in my hometown, there's not very many feenals left.
I don't really care to have you know, music in it.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
They'd rather just have you know, the jukebox in there
and just yeah, that's it. No, dude, we got it.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
No, Like, that's really so many places like around my home,
like around my Virginia that I've closed that that's legendary
to a lot of people who's been through the season,
Like you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, so it's
I hate it, you know what I'm saying, Like that's
and it's just going win Way and then once the
Bulldogs are runs it over, it's the history is a
raised and there's nothing left. No, I want my daughter

(31:50):
to have that history. I want my daughter be able
to go play certain like imagine if Whiskey and Go
Go is just like right right, everybody everybody like, oh
my god, I'll think of our be to make it
because I won't be able to play the play that stage.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
We don't want that.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
We want to save driving to it because these little
weeks if I don't care what anybody say, especially coming
into this. These rinkyd venues or what they would call
the hole in the wall is what kept the music
industry underground. That's what music, Yes, so why not keep
them going to where the future ones have a place

(32:27):
to go? Play about it?

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Regardless of the genre of music, every member of every
Hall of Fame ever inducted started in a bar, or
a garage or a high school gym.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
Absolutely, so I take I take Dave Girl's world, where
seriously go out there and make crappy music in the
garage and then come out with something like food fighting. Right,
you know what I'm saying, Go make that crappy music
because that crappy music might save somebody's life one day. Yeah,
and start off everybody start off as a crappy musician,

(33:02):
right until you get good at it?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Right exactly?

Speaker 6 (33:06):
You think me singing was like, oh instant things, I'm
going here and I'm you know, Mariah Harry hitting them
high notes.

Speaker 8 (33:13):
No.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Once, for example, that there used to be a kind
of a pop band in England, our band called Earth. Yeah,
look what they became once they just stayed with it.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah. Yeah, Well I always believe too, there's an audience
for everything, you know, although I used to think of
it a little bit differently. I used to say, there's
an audience for everything, you just have to find the audience.
But now I think of it a little differently. It's like,
there's an audience for everything, but you have to make
sure that you're in a place where the audience can
find you. Yes, because there that audience exists. But you know, discoverability,

(33:47):
it's such an important word. You know, you have to
be in places where you can be discovered by an audience.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
Right, Well, that's what that's then. Other thing about leaves
of Solace. In any way, shape or form, you have
our platform. We literally made our Facebook, our Instagram available
to where even if you wanted to go live through it. Yeah,
and it says like you just wanted to, Hey, i'm
an let's do an impropt too while we're at practice
here we have something good, some good audio.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
We can let's go live on leading the Sauce. Yeah,
you can go live.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yeah, make that happen. You can, and not even with
our permission. You know that our platforms are open to
where whether whatever you want to drop, whether it's a
music video, a flyer, or whatever, it is open to
you especially if you're from somebody somewhere across the United
States or even over the you know, the ocean. Yeah, yeah,
you can come drop with like even if you you know,
I got a show going on in India. Well we

(34:39):
know not anybody from the United States is gonna make
it to India. But if you want to share it
to get your name out there and just put it
on our platform, you can't. Yeah, if you want to
go live from over there in India and our platform
you can for free.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
So that way you can get your exposure out there,
whether it's across the seas or not.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
We've had album releases that I can remember announced from
nine different countries outside of the US through the legion
of solid social media platform.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Oh no kidding, Wow, excellent.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
And it's kind of like I said, we are actually
going through this step by step to show you that
not only is it the struggle hard for you, is
the struggle is hard for us for being just promoters.
You just want to be out here promoting, you know
what I'm saying, just to get the numbers to come
into the radio show, Just to get the numbers to
come in and just spread the word whether it's bands,
whether it's fans, whether it's whoever, just people. I'd literally

(35:29):
sit there and hand out cards day in and day out.
I mean literally to the point where I'm already hijacking
his card box for cards. You know what I'm saying,
Like I didn't put cards to so many people's hands,
and all I ever acted them in return is like, man, hey,
send me your stuff, we'll play it. And all I
ask is you to take these five cards and hand

(35:50):
them to five other bands or five other fans you
don't know nothing about us, So that way we can
build that platform up and have a strong platform where
when I go live, that thing's saying one point two
k immediately, and then next thing you know, your exclusion
is being dropped. You're a brand new band from you
know wherever, a nobody and you got one point two

(36:12):
K hitting that thing watching. How amazing would that be.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
It's a good start.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Like I said, I don't care about the dollar, I
don't care about the dime, I don't care about the views.
But if I can make it happy for somebody else,
that'd be great. That'll be a successful me because knowing
being in the band's side, that's a lot.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Yeah, absolutely, even if only ten percent of that shares, right,
that's a lot of news feeds. Friends.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
All I want y'all do is and all I want
to do is just spread the word of how you
can keep this metal world thriving. Yeah, and if not,
make it even more thicker than what it was because
it's thinned out. I'm not saying that heavy metals gone.
I'm not saying that the rock culture is gone. It's
still there and it's still thriving pretty good, but it
has thinned.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Metal's not dead. It just got monetized, right, and I
wanted to go back to the unmodetized suff that.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
You know. I grew up in the New Metal Age
and the attitude era of wrestling. Give me good morn.
Now you think I don't want to hear, I want
to hear. I want to hear that break stuff, or
I want to hear you know, some slipknot going on.
I want to hear like something hardcore heavy. That's why
I do. Like the FM radio station in my hometown
and uh, it's ninety eight five at my hometown, and

(37:29):
these these guys are there playing everything from Breaking Benjamin
to Lamb of God. I mean they're playing the vast
majority of the good hardcore, heavy metal, mainstream stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
But also that it's still missing that fun factor because,
like I said, in the hometown I grew up where
every Tuesday and every Sunday was local day. You know
what I'm saying. Yeah, we just finished playing God's Smack
and Creed and you know it was arms waterpert.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
You know, you got.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
I mean there's many times when as a kid, I
hear my own band that I joined part of Hey
for Bones through you know, ninety six three local radio,
and I grew up with that, you know, and then
just being able to just say, hey, well we're scheduled
to interview.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
You can come in and sit down and we'll talk
and and it.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
Doesn't cost you a dime because it doesn't cost you
a manager say hey man, I had to do this
for you said, now you got to give you my
ten percent. No, I want to go back to the
day to where if you wanted to just like, hey, dude,
this is the day I want to pull up on
you and want to do a show with live with
you right in front of your face.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Let's go bro.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
I will literally call my job and be like, hey,
I got a very important because I don't even stressed
this to my job. What this leads to the solace
what I do as well as being in the band,
it's not a hobby, right, I mean I put over,
you know, a good twenty years of my life into
this to go play with like with Hay for Bones
and play with these bands for the Flaw and you know,
mushroom Head and all these guys, you know, and being

(38:50):
an independent bank.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
So I know it's successful. I've seen the success out
of it.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying, like by being with
that band Hey for Bones, so I know if I
can do it and go wrong, even though yes it might.
It's not the shortcut around. It's not hey, we can
go hop this mountain and parachute down. No, we're gonna
take the long road and we're gonna do it the
right way. So that way not only one you have
your receipts.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Only two.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
You know that you have been respected and treated as
a decent human being, not an object a toy that
I can make new law off you. No, I want
you to get paid. I want your music to get seen, period.
I want you to be just treated with respect no
matter where you go. Whether it's me helping you get
into these you know, these bills that are helping you

(39:34):
get paid while you're toying, I want you to make
sure you get paid accurately. Make sure you're not getting
treated or disrespect. You're not having to sign no contractor me.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (39:44):
I want to just help you promote because either way
it goes, it's gonna Whatever is gonna come is gonna come.
Because if you build, if what happens when you, like
I told Will of them last night, what happens when
you actually make that magnet powerful enough, everything's gonna come
stopping tools. Right, it's mainstream, whether it's under or even
lower to you know, the underground, you can actually there's

(40:07):
been many bands that still do it to this day.
It's like, oh man, I see what they're doing over there.
I want to go do that. I want to go
be with these guys. And the next thing you know,
here you go. You got something you mung's going on.
You know what I'm saying, that's actually not necessarily the
call you calling the big stream bands to come play
with you. They're calling you say, hey, I want to
be a part of this because you're helping the community

(40:29):
stay alive. Like when you see all these videos of
like God's Man going out here to these schools, and
you know, you're sitting around with one hundred drummers and
all this and helping them teaching the music theory. And
that's what that's the end goal. We want to keep
it going so much to where it's getting thrown out.
And I love seeing these little videos on YouTube where

(40:49):
these little kids are like sixty seven years old and
they meaning they're killing oh yeah, you know, a Lamb
of God later rests, you know, like anything out there.
I mean they are here on Dream Theater and it's
just like, yeah, I just.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
That example, there's a young drummer I think he's ten
or eleven now. His name is Caleb h and Joey
Jordison had kind of taken him under his wing before
he passed, and Jay Weinberg kind of continued that on
for a little while. He's been very endeared to Slipnot
for a while and Vimic got together and did the
tribute show to Joey. Yeah, they invited Caleb to come

(41:29):
in and and caleb'sad in with Vimic for two or
three songs at the at the at the tribute show.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
And you wouldn't if you heard a recording without a video,
you would never believe that it was It was an
elementary school kid behind the kid back there playing like Joey,
like Joey had written it for him.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
No, Kidd's wild, And that's what that's what we're here for.
We want to keep this going from generations and generations.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Well yeah, it's it's videos like that and talents like
that that remind you metal isn't dead, isn't going anywhere.
We don't need to gate keep it. It's in good hands.
We just need to educate the youth to how to
do it properly.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
Yeah, like I said, if I can go play with
all these bands and have this, you know, this resume
of bands that I haven't played with, being from a
place called Lynchburg, Virginia, that I mean I've went to
I went to school with people that lived in you know, Philadelphia,
and I thought that's what they made.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
You know, No, I Lynsburg, Virginia.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
You know what I'm saying, Like so to be honestly
like to just be a place for that and being
known that I could go up to Baltimore at any
time and play with, you know, all these well known
bands and then go to be on the festival twice,
you know, with a bunch of bands.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
You know, come on, I crazy town, sick puppies. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
We we opened I think we closed out on our
stage right before Fuel was starting up. I mean we
didn't have the party with Tantric, and you know what
I'm saying. Like, so being on that and doing all
that stuff and being just a band that is not
even signed. Yeah, yeah, just a local band has been
around for over twenty years that people have looked up
to and loved. Yeah, being able to do this stuff,

(43:11):
I know I can help you get to there.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Speaking of Tantric, Oh, I know what you're gonna talk about. Yeah,
I must say congratulations to our friend Opus yep, yep
from Dead By Wednesday, they're founding drummer who is now
the full time touring drummer of the band Tantric.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah, congratulations to Opus.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Yeah, very cool and if you want to congratulate him
in person. Early January next year at the Opus Blizzard
Bash at Toad's Place in New Haven, Connecticut. Tantric has
announced that the first show of their tour will be
Opus Birthday Bash.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Oh okay, and then they will be.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
Coming to Gloucester, Massachusetts and playing a little venue called
the Cut.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yeah. Oh.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
They're starting their their tour in New England as as
an homage to Opus to say thank you for joining
the band there.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
They're accommodating a New England start in the middle of January. Oh,
that's not a lot of bands come and see us
until April.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
That's true. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Jenny and I last year at Swarmyfest because of course
dead By Wednesday was one of the bands, and when
they you know, I had to go upfront to see them,
and then, you know, I kind of came back to
the table for a little bit and then I heard,
you know, their cover of No Easy Way Out they
started playing that. I said to Jenny, I was like, oh,
you got to go. I had to go back upfront
for that because I love that so much. That's so good.

(44:28):
Dead By Wednesday is so good live do you know?
Is he so now that he's the full time touring
drummer with Tantric is he. I mean, what's happening with
Dead By Wednesday?

Speaker 5 (44:36):
They are still alive, well, fully functioning. Yeah, yeah, they're
still still doing work.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
I mean, I mean, every drummer is in fifteen different bands.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
Anyway, I was just going to say he's also in
He's still in the Black Sabbath Tribute project as well.
I believe I believe they're calling that some relation to Earth.
Oh okay, but it's I think it's just like Earth,
the Black Sabbath Tribute. Oh, they'll be they'll be playing
upstairs all night between bands at Blizzard Bash the Tribute act,

(45:07):
so Opus will be in the building all day long.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
Yeah yeah, And that's awesome because to see the guys
that work the industry, like uh, like Sepsis and then
Dead By Wednesday with Opus and then like.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
I love that dude.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
He was on the show with us.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Yeah great is a networking Yeah yeah, I mean I
love that dude to death.

Speaker 6 (45:31):
Big shouts out of there, like I him up as
much as I can, and every since I can get
I try to come see your show, especially if I can,
if I get it while I'm up here, because I'm
only up here.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Well, now that I have my real ID, you know,
I can fly. I got a little star.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, uh, that's the
whole other story. I got into that whole ransom the
other day. But yeah, now no, I'm flying, I can
go get more. But also, like I said, I'm trying
to I'm trying to bands down here, up here, down there, yep,
and then down here down there up here.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
That's my goal for starting off, to make a strong
connection between bands up here and bands down there.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
And that's just another thing that Legion of Solace does
is because we are in different markets personally residentially, we
can introduce you to markets that you might not get
to as readily because you're trying to get it through
a digital realm. Whereas, if you want a Southeast market,
we have Southeast residents in our company. We can send

(46:35):
that down and you can send it directly to that market.
So instead of you having to travel one thousand miles
six hundred miles from home and then put foot to ground,
we can be your street team.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Right.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
You send us the material, you send us the flyers.
You never know, there may be a band that we
work with that's putting together a five band show. They
have four and they're looking to pick somebody up on
their way through. You have a gig in South Carolina,
you have a gig in Tennessee, it would make sense
to pick up a stop through in Virginia.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
Like I said, I got you and we got you because,
like I said, it's nothing to try to talk to
some of these other venues as well as, if anything,
the great thing about it down there, we don't have
to have a promoter's license.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
I can go.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
I can go rent out the biggest ruins in club
that we have down there and put on a show.
Yeah charged it. I mean, as long as you're not
selling alcohol. Yeah, I don't need a promoter license.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
I can go.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
I can literally go use finding someplace with an awesome stage,
get somebody to run PA and boom right there and
at least have I know there's one down in the
whole capacity of three hundred people with the stage so
pretty much boom as well as if not, I have
the whole outside that I can just set up outside
of stage and do it. There's plenty of places are

(47:50):
just find somebody with enough land that will take a
cut of some money.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Which that's what we used to do back in the day.
I mean like when when when that band was playing,
and because I said, I've followed Hayful Bones if I
even joined them. So I was one of the kids
that was I was out there at thirteen years old
at these backyard parties. You know what I'm saying, partying
with these guys, not drinking, but just partying, join the music,
and it's like, dude, that's what made me fall more

(48:15):
in love with the local and get to this kick
because if I would have never seen that or experienced
that by the band that I was with, to see
the struggle and then actually join in the band and
then then eventually joined the band that was following. Yeah,
and then see the struggles of all right, well now
we got to make a band account, we got to
do band merch, we got to do CDs, which great
thing about that day. And as long as you had

(48:37):
a tower and you had your music, you could burn
see these all dayn line. Yeah, that's true, all day
all day like and then so that way we were
it was great. And then you had these little self
labeling systems. I remember, Yeah, that's what that's what I
see him doing. Like we have even had this point
where we were selling airbrush shirts. Yeah you know what

(48:59):
I'm saying. Like I had an old school shirt that
from hay Bus, I mean in a couple of years. Yeah,
you know it was air brushed. You know what I'm saying,
that's what they sold. They were everywhere you could do
it to where you can get your merch off, whether
it's having a custom painter, having a shirt to a
team do it for you or whatever.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Yeah, that's what we're here for. We helped whatever style
you want, We're going to try to help you to
get there.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
When the White Stripes first started, their first merch was
just a white T shirt with white stripes with sharpie,
wasn't it right? Yeah, they just like scribbled on them
before the show made ten or fifteen, that was their
merch that.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Oh yeah, that's what sounded like. It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (49:36):
So like I'm saying, we've seen it where I've you know,
I've didn't even help sell out all our mercer we
just bought the day before, and it's just like we
got three more shows out of this.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
What are we gonna do.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Yeah, well, guys, we are approaching the top of the
hour real quick and then and then we'll let you
go where. So where should people go online? Where's the
best place to go to keep up with everything? Legion
of Solace is doing.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
Facebook for right now okay and Instagram okay right now
because eventually, like I said, once we once Tuesday gets
to do it. Back to door and her thing. We're,
like I said, we're trying to find a platform to
where we can be us and not have to worry
about any restrictions that I have to work because I
even me playing some of these bands like that are unsigned.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Yeah I get muted on Facebook.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
Yeah you know what I'm saying, because it sounds like
something else or whatever and it's not even a sign band,
and then I have to wait months and months, I think,
just not even two weeks ago, I got a notification saying, oh,
we've unlocked your things, seeing that we've actually you know, researching,
and it's not a sign band on there, you know
what I'm saying, Like, so just do that.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
That's not like I'm gonna test op TikTok okay on.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
The human element catches up with the algorithm right.

Speaker 6 (50:47):
So I've got a bunch of stuff that I've done
done through Facebook. But if I do it right, if
I do do it right and there are enough underground,
I don't be muted. Like there's like maybe one or
two shows that I have going through my quarter a
monica that is unmedits right now.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Okay, wow, all right, Yeah, that's always that's always a challenge.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Thank you so much, Bruce and Malcolm from Legion of Solace.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Always a pleasure.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I appreciate you coming in. Can't wait to see you tonight.
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