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The docile Tones you heard just a moment ago. TJ.
Meadows in Charleston, Good morning, mister Meadows, good morning.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
I'm excited about the World Series tonight. Eager to watch.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
That should be great pitching, absolutely great pitching. Tray Savage,
the rookie has been outstanding for Toronto. Blake'snell's been lights out.
Looking forward to it.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
My neighbor made a point all my years of studying
business economics, I didn't come to this conclusion.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
He did.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
I don't know what his background is. He said, you know,
did you see where Trump doesn't want to deal with
Canada anymore. We're shutting down negotiations on the tariffs. We're
just going to tariff them. We can't come to an agreement.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Did you see that?

Speaker 5 (02:49):
And I was like, yeah, He's like, that's just because
the World Series, because we're playing the Blue Jays.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I thought, you know, that's not the That's not the
most of it.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I can think.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I I mean, I could explain it as much as anything. Well,
South Park said it best, blame Canada. Just blame Canada.
I think that covers pretty much everything. Yeah, so there
you go. So yesterday, as we were on the air,
we were trying to sort through the press conference that
was going on detailing this massive gambling investigation that involved

(03:20):
both the mafia the sports world, rigged poker games, sports betting,
all of this into this massive press conference yesterday. More
than two dozen arrest, eleven States NBA players involved, Chauncey Billups,
who's in a Hall of Famer, and a coach. He's
involved in all of this. So there's two aspects. There's

(03:41):
the poker side, which is fascinating, sounds like something out
of Ocean's eleven. Then there's the sports side of this.
As you all well know, sports gambling has not only
become accepted, it is popular. People put a little bit
of money here, a little bit of money there. Maybe
this guy is going to go over the points in
this game. Maybe he goes under. BET's the whole nine yards?

(04:01):
What's the impact? Well, when it comes to things like this,
we turned to mention New Sports and three guys before
the game's Brad, how Brad?

Speaker 6 (04:09):
Good morning, Good morning fellas. We're off to a heck
of us start a little world series to begin the
program today.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I like that a little bit of everything here. So
have you had time to digest this, because, like I said,
there are two aspects, and I want to talk about
the sports aspect of this and explain Terry Rosier. He's
the player that was involved in this with the I
believe it was the Heat a couple of years ago.
Explain his involvement and how exactly all this comes to fruition.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
Yeah, this is a crazy story, and you're right the
Ocean's eleven reference makes some sense because it almost is
straight out of a movie. You had the mob reportedly
involved in this as well. When it comes to the
poker games and maybe the sports betting side, So it's
got a little bit of everything, including, as you mentioned,
an NBA sitting head coach that, oh, by the way,
is also a Hall of Famer, So it's got a

(04:56):
lot of tentacles to it from the Terry Rogier side
of things. From from what I've been able to glean
from the reports, it sounds as if what you said
in the beginning, it's based around a prop bet of
a player's points or rebounds or assists. There you can
do it in any of these ways, and you just
go place a wager on whether you think the player's
going over or under the number that is set in

(05:17):
each of those categories. Well, it sounds like Rosier in
this particular case, had tips some people off that he
would enter himself into the game, he would play, but
exit then early, faking an injury and coming out of
the game. So once the player appears in the game
in plays, then the bet is live. Well, if he's
coming out after just a few minutes, of course, he's
not going to hit that number for the over. So

(05:40):
it sounds as if the information he gave out to
associates people around him was to take the under and
put some significant dollars on it. That's the part of
those guys that's a little bit curious. As you look
into this, you talk to most people in that world,
and the numbers they are being thrown around in terms
of total dollars that these people were able to get
down on these prop bets seems way out of whack

(06:02):
for what the market normally accepts. Those limits for those
type of bets are usually a lot smaller, especially for
guys off the radar like a Terry Rogier. So that's
kind of the cliff notes version of it as I
understand that particular part of this case.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
So throw me some rope here, because this is new
to me. Full disclosure, I've never placed a bet on
draft Kings or any of these things. I don't know
how it works. But my understanding is that sometimes you
can even shift your position in the game, right, Like
they'll offer you different odds and you can take it
or not take it, and these things. And then to

(06:38):
your point about it's more action than they would normally take.
So does the industry have to be in on it
to make it work, to make it, to make the
scheme come off. That's what I don't understand because they
seem to have self cleansing mechanisms within their betting props.
But to your point, if they're taking more action than

(06:58):
they normally would, that leads me to say why.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
Yeah, it's a good question, TJ. And I obviously don't
have a full answer on that s but a couple
of things. Yes, So the live betting has become very
popular here as of late. And yet so those lines,
those numbers of points scored or rebounds or whatever it
may be, are constantly adjusting during the games, and it
depends on how widely available those are. If it's a

(07:22):
nationally televised NFL game or NBA game, those lines are
available for more players. If it's a game off the radar,
then you can't necessarily get lines on all of those
different guys, so that varies as well how much this
is actually available. It's one of those things. To JA,
I just I'm confused as to why it was such
a big number, But that's neither here nor there. If

(07:44):
that's what the number was, that's what the number was.
I will say this, and you'll hear a lot of
this in the coming days too, And I think you
can make a strong argument for this that the legalization
of sports betting actually makes these things easier to catch
and find, because that's how it gets flagged. I mean
there's there can't have been and and pick a number.

(08:04):
I mean if it's fifty or if it's one hundred,
it's a smaller number of people that were placing wagers
on Terry Rogier over or under. That is not a
popular bet. So when you see someone come in or
someone's come in with numbers that are out of whack,
that's what draws the red flag. And that's where this was.
This was tagged with, So somebody inside the sports book

(08:26):
had to tag this as irregular betting activity. The regulation
group that monitors all these books sees that, and that's
what triggers the investigation. So a lot of these things
that you've seen about John day Porter is tangently involved
in this investigation as well. Those things start to pop
because there is unusual activity in a sports book. If

(08:46):
we go back just ten years ago, you probably don't
catch a lot of that stuff because as we know,
these gambling, these gambling and fixing of games, this isn't new.
You go all the way back centuries to the handle. Sure,
oh I don't think at the time, but went through
this in the early sixties, so these things aren't new.

(09:07):
They're certainly more visible now. But I think there can
be an argument made, and you'll hear the legalized sports
betting industry say this that now that's easier to flag
and catch these irregularities in the market.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Brad Howld joining a specially new sports three guys before
the game, sports line all the above. You could also argue, though, Brad,
without the legalized gambling, without these sports books, I mean,
the local bookie down on the corner, who's taking bets?
Is he putting odds on Terry Rozier's stats? That only
exists because the legal sports books exist.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
Though, yeah, I think that's correct, or at least certainly
more of them. And again I think that's probably more
of the question than should these exist?

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Will they exist?

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Moving forward? It's probably the next stage is to question
how many of those.

Speaker 8 (09:52):
Need to exist?

Speaker 6 (09:53):
Do you need to go all the way down the
list of players to do that? So I think that's
probably a fair and open discussion that leagues and teams
can have in this. But guys, also, as we know
that it's hard to legislate that behavior isn't it. I Mean,
at some point there has to be some personal responsibility,
and people are going to find ways around whatever limitations
you place out there.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
So I kind of wonder if I'm a guy that
likes to bet right, I'm going to do that whatever
mechanism or whatever platform I use. I wonder if folks
will go away from the more legalized, legitimate platforms, let's
go back to the local bookie where they don't have
to worry about this kind of manipulation.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Possibly, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah, I think it depends on what your interest is.
I think there's millions of people out there that do
do this just for the fun and the entertainment and
to add a little bit to their watching of the action.
That's not what this was, guys. This is totally different
than us placing a bet on the NBA games and
I just because we put ten bucks on it because
we want to watch the game and have a little

(10:57):
rooting interest.

Speaker 9 (10:58):
This was a.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Calculated, sounds like massive effort going on here. And again
you involve the mob in this and the poker games
supposedly that Chauncey Phillips is involved with it. Really the
Terry Rogier side of this sounds like a very small
part of what could be a very large operation here
talking to.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Mention it in sports, Brad, How Brad, if you're Adam Silver,
Roger Goodell, rob Mann for the commissioners of the three
big sports, what's your biggest concern right now?

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Yeah, that's a good question, Dave, And it's certainly the
PR impact this has will be the one staring you
right in the face. And I think that's what Adam
Silver and the NBA is going to have to fight
over the next few days. Again, not only is it
the player in Terry Rogier, but to have a sitting
head coach and a Hall of Famer involved in this,
and whether it's part into the sports betting or not,
there's now reports coming out that maybe there was, and

(11:48):
that he was involved in passing along some information. That's
a huge black eye. There's no way around that. That's
a PR disaster. But I think the biggest issue comes
back is you just cannot have people out there in
the market questioning the integrity of the games. Are the
games rigged? And we know people talk about that all
the time. A lot of time it's in ingest or

(12:09):
just being emotional that the officials did this or did that.
But from the NBA side, where we've just had a
scandal around Tim Donahey fixing games from an official standpoint,
and now this on the back of it. That's ultimately
the biggest problem. When people start to question the integrity
of the games and when they can't believe that those
games are being played on the up and up, that's

(12:30):
where you have a real problem. So whatever that entails,
that has to be the focus of leagues to make
sure you get that right and cleaned up and that
you're watching that closely.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Was listening to a podcast on the drive in this morning,
trying to educate myself on this, and one of the
angles that the hosts took when it goes back to
these poker games, is that these folks who were attracted
to come play to be the lore right probably had
financial problems, may have had financial problems, and that's how
the mob was able to get leverage over them.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Goes back to this.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Deal, Brad that we see all the time professional athletes
making all this money and they're broke five minutes after
they're out of the league, or even when they're in
the league. I mean, I don't know how much that
plays a role here, but to me just thinking this through,
you would have to have some kind of leverage to
get a Phillips or one of these guys to want
to set down knowingly and participate in what's happening.

Speaker 6 (13:22):
Yeah, and I think if you go back, that's what
so many of these have been tied to over time, right,
And that's that's what it is. That you get leverage,
or you've got to pay off some depth, or you've
got to debts, you got to do something to make
good on that. Yeah, that's part of it. And then
I think also TJ, as you talk about professional athletes,
and certainly I'm not a psychologist or a behavior specialist,
but you hear a lot of times these professional athletes

(13:43):
are wired different. You don't get to that level without
being hyper competitive. And there's a lot of folks that say, like,
what what in the heck is Kerry Rose you're doing
in here? He made a hundred million dollars, what's he
worried about? All due respect to a couple hundred thousand dollars,
but what's he worried about for when he's made one
hundred million dollars and It goes back to the competitiveness

(14:04):
and a little bit of juice, and you got to
have an edge. And you're you're in these poker games
because you like the competitiveness of it, and you need
something to get the juices flowing if you're no longer playing.
So I think that could that makes some sense to me.
I could see how that's wrapped up in this. Again,
I doubt it's one thing or another. TG. I think
you got a bunch of things to play in this.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Well, the Terry Rozier situation there, Brad. It could be
just as simple as your buddies, your cousins or whatever.
The people within your circle go hey, hey, we're gonna
put some money on you. We need you to all right,
all right, man, I'll fake an jury. All right, man,
I'll fake an injury just you know, facilitate people around
you putting money on these prop bets and whatnot. I mean,

(14:45):
it's crazy, Like I said, this sounds like it's out
of a movie.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Well it does.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
And I think that's where this thing will continue on
to unravel and you find out about this. But guys,
we just went through this in college baseball. The Alabama
Baseball coach was fired recently for passening information along to
a friend of his who is in Cincinnati who made
the This is still an unbelievable part of the story
to me. That person reportedly goes into the sportsbook located

(15:11):
at the Red Stadium and wants to place a bet
on a college baseball game afternoon early in the season. Again,
the number of people trying to bet that game are
on you could probably count them on one hand. This
guy goes in and asks, reportedly ask what's the most
I can get down on this game? Well, that immediately
flagged him right there to me, like, what are we

(15:32):
talking about? And then says, I have inside information in
this I'd like to get a bet down.

Speaker 7 (15:37):
Boom, that's what it gets him.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Point.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
So you're also at times not dealing with world class
criminals here, and people think they can just go in
there and they've got an easy win. It's just it's
unbelievable sometimes what people think.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, go ahead, David, what I was going to say,
Brad along those lines. Damon Jones was a staffer for
the Lakers. He was passing on injury information about Lebron
James for betters along those lines. So you got that
aspect of all this too.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Yeah, and listen, there's not time to dive into all
this now. But that's also part of the reason why
I think you're seeing that. You saw the professional leagues
do it, and now you've seen some of the college
leagues follow suit. Where these injury reports are becoming public,
try and get away to take out some of that
information that can be sold or passed along, that you

(16:24):
put that information out there so that it is in
the public domain, not kept behind the curtain, so to speak,
where someone can use it for this use.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
The sad reality is if this is happening in college.
We talked about that with Happy yesterday, and there's no
reason to believe it's not. You would think Cash Battel
and that group of folks standing at the podium yesterday
and these arrests, you would think that would chill some people.
You would think that it would reverse course in their action. Sadly, Brett,
I don't think it will.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Well, I think that's well said, and I think probably
like anything TJ, it will for a lot of people
and a lot of athletes. I think it will grab
their attention and for others they'll think that doesn't apply
to me. I'll they'll be able to get away with the.

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All right, guys, thanks for having me.

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Three oh four Talk three oh four Texter, says David TJ.
The NBA scandal makes Pete rose gambling look like chump change,
says the Texter. Let me ask you a question, Yeah,
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
What's more important getting these guys in the letter of
the law, which I'm not discounting, or kicking them out
of the league.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Oh, I think both.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
I think one hurts more than the other. Though I
think these guys penalties criminally might not necessarily hurt them
as much as kicking them out of the league.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Just my two c I think it's just the opposite
of that, because we have seen Pete Rose was banned
for life. Yeah, right, only after he died does he
get reinstated and have a chance to go, you know,
be put on the Hall of Fame, have a chance
to get in the Hall of fame. So that has
not deterred. We've seen other players be kicked out of

(19:29):
legs lifetime bans for gambling scandal, So I don't know
if that's a huge assurrent criminal charges might be a
deterrent where you think, oh, you know what, yeah, if
I come out here a couple of minutes, you know,
maybe not I go the under tonight. If you could
end up in jail, I don't know, maybe that's more
of a deterrent because certainly getting kicked out of the legs.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
For life, I mean you can't, right, yeah, I don't know.
I think Brad said something really interesting though, the psychology here.
I don't know that that if you're willing to do
these kinds of things, I don't know that any penalty
really well that's true, right yeah.

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I mean there's still people who commit crimes every day,
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legs and you can take this right on down to
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I appreciate you coming by. I grew up, of course,
everybody I think it knows at this point, grew up
in Saint Mary's. I had known this story my entire life.
My dad worked at the power plant, Oh Jesus for
you know, he retired from it a couple of years ago.
What interested you about this story?

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I think it's in.

Speaker 16 (26:33):
Another of those stories where it's easily forgotten about, easily
passed over I did a book on the bridge down
in Point Pleasant that collapse, Silverbridge, Silverbridge, very good. Another
one I did about the eleven young men from Monroe County,
Ohio that died in Vietnam that was before this one.
I think it's just one of those things. They fall

(26:53):
into this trilogy that I have, this series that's called
Remembering not to Forget, and then we can easily forget
situations like this, and that's what interested me. We can't
forget about it.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
So give us a little background on how the accident
actually happened, what went wrong?

Speaker 16 (27:08):
Sure, it was a Thursday morning. Everything seemed to be fine.
They had poured a ring of concrete the day before,
which was usually they let it set maybe thirty thirty six,
maybe forty eight hours, but this one they only let
set about twenty not even twenty four hours. The men

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came in on the twenty seventh, the carpenter's first six
thirty and then iron workers followed by the maze that
the plasters and cement makers or whatever, and they had
raised three buckets up to the top level one hundred
and sixty eight feet and about a little bit after ten,
one of the cranes that was lifting the concrete up.

(27:51):
The story has it that one of the cable was broke,
and then that followed by that was followed by one
of the cranes falling, and then the scaffolding fell, and
then the men fell, and then the whatever else was
there fell on top of them.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Did anybody inside that construction area? Were there survivors?

Speaker 12 (28:11):
No?

Speaker 16 (28:12):
Now, the fifty one young, the fifty one men that
died were all on the tower. There were some underneath,
you know, in the middle, but they ran for their lives.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Of course, so that twenty four hour versus thirty six
to forty eight, that was the single contributing factor. Would
this still have happened if they would have waited the
entire thirty six to forty eight Do we know.

Speaker 16 (28:32):
You're putting me on the spot, TJ.

Speaker 12 (28:36):
No.

Speaker 16 (28:36):
I again, the weather we know, you know, late April
here in West Virginia. I was born and raised here.
The weather in late April can be iffy and whatever else.
But it had rained some, it was cool. I think
the temperature to start that day was in the low forties.
And so the bottom line, TJ. Was that this cement

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did not cure, did not set up.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
So doctor Michael Price is joining us SEES new book
coming out, Enough Pain to Go Around, tracing the widespread
pain surrounding the deadliest construction accident in US history. That
was when the cooling tower collapsed while Pleasant's power station
was under construction up in Pleasants County. Not only fifty
one victims ironworkers, construction workers, masons, there were ten from

(29:21):
one single family. It was the Steel family in Presence County.
They lost ten members of their family that day.

Speaker 16 (29:26):
Yeah, the mom and dad Lease Steel and Molly's Steel
lost four sons, They had some, they lost some cousins
and whatever. So you're exactly right, You're exactly right, mister Dave.
Ten from one family.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Did you get an opportunity to talk to folks in
Pleasants County? Because you know how we are in West Virginia.
We're very tight, we're very private. These things are hard
to talk about, even though it was nineteen seventy eight.
Were folks willing to talk to At first?

Speaker 16 (29:54):
They were not, But again the more that I shared
with them, I think they were apprehensive because you know,
here's an insurance guy coming investigator or whatever. But the
more that I shared with him, the more I talked
with him. The more that they allowed me into their life,
the more they opened up. And so I appreciative for
the people down there that it was a difficult time

(30:14):
for them. I compared this to a little rock being
dropped in a body of water. That ripple effect just
got everybody.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Do you think culture has changed in that, you know?
I think there used to be a time doc where
it was just hey, roll up the sleeves, get the
job done. It's all about the job. Let's just get
it done and be as quick as we can, efficient
as we can. But it's about getting the job done
versus now, maybe a culture that would embrace someone saying,
you know what, hold up here a second, guys, something

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doesn't look right. Let's stop the job. Let's think about
this before we move further. I would hope that something
like this would have shifted culture toward that it did.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
It did.

Speaker 16 (30:54):
Osha was fairly new, I think two maybe three years old.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
They came in.

Speaker 16 (30:59):
There was a lot of investigation, and so uh Osha
had a lot to do with changing things, just like
it was in uh that the Point Pleasant bridge collapsed.
There came in, we had some safety measures about bridges
that were implemented and so uh Uh, the short answer is, yeah,
there's been some changes. I'm sure that allow more safety.

(31:22):
You know, we have the union safety guys and whatever else.
So yeah, there's been some changes to culture.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (31:29):
Those were those were proud, proud men that went up there.
They did so under the impression, uh that they they
are family men. They provided for their families. They they
were the breadwinners and so uh to lose one member
of your family, you know, you have to wonder, where's
the mortgage payment going to come from? Where's the insurance

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for the car? Uh, where's the Christmas gifts going to
come from?

Speaker 4 (31:54):
The union s?

Speaker 16 (31:54):
And some benefits the uh the state Workmen's comp and
some money. But in the long run, they got some
money from the settlement. But there were families that were
nearly destroyed. But because of that resilience, because of that
resolve of the people in that community, they should be

(32:15):
proud of where they are now and how they work
through this.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Doctor Michael Price joining us author He's got a new
book coming out discussing the tragedy at Pleasants fire Station
when the cooling tower collapsed while the power plant was
under construction. What did people share with you? Give us
an example of some of the stories they shared.

Speaker 16 (32:33):
I can't a whole lot because again some said that,
you know, this is off the record, and I respect
that that.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Give me on the record. Give me an example on
the record.

Speaker 16 (32:43):
Yeah, you can show about the difficulty of making it,
of going through of knowing that the that their father
or brother or whatever we're killed, and to process that
whole thing. If you've ever had a loss in your
family is one thing, but a tragic loss so much more, so,
much more involved and with emotions.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
And that kind of thing.

Speaker 16 (33:06):
So a lot of people shared with me what was
going on in their lives, and they shared stuff off
the record, and so I had I respected that. I
wrote as much as I could about They gave me
permission to write, and so I respected that privacy.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
Those you talked with, I'm curious, macro Lovely don't have
to identify anyone, like you said, tragic event, but they
have to drive by that cooling tower, you know. So
it's like, how do you how do you heal from
it without a constant reminder there in town when you
drive by what seemed very hard teach.

Speaker 16 (33:42):
That's a great question.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Great question.

Speaker 16 (33:44):
I got into town yesterday and my first move was
to drive through Saint Mary's down to Belmont and then
to Willow Island, and I sat across the street from
that cooling tower, the cooling tower closest to the road,
that was number two, and I just looked at it
for about twenty minutes.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
And so you're right.

Speaker 16 (34:03):
The catwalk that goes up and across the highway and
down is still there. If you look real close on
that tower. The tower closest to the road, that is
tower too. There's a black line and that's where the
accident occurred right there. So yeah, every day people drive
past that every day.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Why is it important we're talking to doctor Michael Price, author,
Why is it important to make certain we retell these
stories over and over again?

Speaker 16 (34:32):
I had an interview where I had a book signing
yesterday in Saint Mary's and there were two or three
of the Steel family there and it was very emotional
for them, I could tell for me to talk about this,
but we got to get that story out. We got
to get all of these stories out, whether it be

(34:53):
a Farmington Number nine mine, whether it be the Marshall
plane crash, whether it be the flooding down in Buffalo Creek.
These stories cannot die. They are painful ones. But again,
we need to share these stories so people know about
this West Virginia history.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
And it could be therapeutic. You bring up the Marshall
plane crash up until really when the movie came out,
it just never got talked about. You would remember it,
and we were starting to lose that generation. Yeah, both
the Marshall plane crash, same kind of thing, nineteen seventy eight.
We're starting to lose the people with the direct knowledge

(35:34):
to pass those stories on. It's important we keep these
stories a lot.

Speaker 16 (35:36):
Another great point, it was difficult getting what's called primary sources,
and that is wives or family members because either they've died,
they've moved away, just don't want to talk. And so
I applaud those that spoke with me. I applaud them
for being so honest with me. And so, yeah, we
can't let this things die. This is West Virginia history.

(36:00):
We cannot let this go.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Well.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I think two.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Ensuring that the next generation of ironworkers, Masons, etc. Understand
this because while culture has improved, sometimes I think doctor
can still be that hesitancy for someone to want to say, well,
hang on here a second, you know, and we talk
about the power need in this country.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
We need more power.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
So whatever mechanism that is, whether that's building a micro grid,
building a new power plant, whatever, these are the guys
and gals that are going to be doing it. So
if we can learn from those lessons in the past,
I would think the more we talk about these stories
for generations that may not have heard it, the safer
they're going to be.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Moving forward to another great point.

Speaker 16 (36:38):
Of the fifty one men that died, two of them
were still in their teens, one was over sixty, fifteen
were veterans. Of the fifty one men that lost their lives,
they left thirty six children. Five or six of the
men had wives. We're pregnant. And so this is again

(37:02):
that ripple effect thing. And as Dave said earlier, the
title of the book says it all. There was enough
pain to go around almost twice.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
That is the name of the book, Enough pain to
go around? Where can people find? Is it out yet
or believe it or not?

Speaker 16 (37:17):
I left some at the new Martinsville Library, only five,
and I left only five at the Pleasants County Library
in Saint Mary's. So after those are going, you're going
to have to go to Amazon. But today today's the
first day it comes out on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
All right, so look for it over on Amazon. Go
to those libraries first, okay, live the library. Yeah, they
won't have to won't have to pay that shipping.

Speaker 16 (37:41):
Yes, yeah, go to the libraries, call the library whatever.
But otherwise you got to go to Amazon.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Name of the book is enough pain to go around.
The author, doctor Michael Price. Also several other books if
you're interested, also involving West Virginia history.

Speaker 16 (37:53):
My brother in Western Union listens to you all the time.
I got to give a shout out to David and
I had a shirt that was purple, and I thought
today that I better not wear that considering what's happening tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
So okay, fair enough, t see you at their purple Yes, hell,
you know you add a little gold and you're okay.
I'm just saying, Michael, good to see you. Appreciate it,
bud it.

Speaker 16 (38:13):
Thank you all for having me.

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Metro is state wide. Corresponded Brad McIlhenny covering a case
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deployment of members of the Western National Guard to Washington
d C. The hearing has concluded. Brad owins this Brad,
good morning. What happened?

Speaker 8 (40:03):
Oh hi, good morning? Well, this was a case before
Judge Richard Lindsay, who again knows how to end on
a cliffhanger. So I'm going to tell you the process
stuff first, which is that this was a case challenging
Governor Morrissey's deployment of three hundred and four hundred members

(40:25):
of the West Virginia National Guard to Washington d C.
ACLU of West Virginia filed the case saying that the
governor has committed overreach on his powers to do this
kind of thing. The plaintiff that ACLU of West Virginia
was representing is West Virginia Citizen Action. So there was
a lot today about well what would be what does

(40:48):
West Virginia Citizen Action have at stake? You know, are
they truly someone who could claim some sort of loss
out of having the West Virginia National Guard go to
d C. Turns out Judge Lindsay was less interested in
that question, although there was about an hour of testimony
about it, but wants to hear more about what are

(41:13):
the governor's true powers to do this kind of deployment
to d C. Is there a difference because d C
is you know, such a unique entity. Uh, it's it's
you know, it does have its own government, but it's
it's also a federal district. Does that Does that change

(41:34):
if it's at the request of President Trump?

Speaker 12 (41:36):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (41:37):
Does it change?

Speaker 8 (41:38):
And it's different from for example, if West Virginia National
Guard members were to be sent to Chicago, where there
you know, there's a there's clearly a different form of government.
And then finally, you know this question about whether whether

(41:59):
whether the National or does represent other interests in West Virginia,
their daily lives, other duties in West Virginia and what
would be potentially the lost there if if this were
to go on. So all that to tell you, Judge
Lindsay had a lot of thoughts about it, but the
thoughts were so complex he has set aside the hearing

(42:22):
today and set a new one that's the cliffhanger I'm
talking about for November three, that's the Monday at ten am,
and has directed the lawyers in the case to submit
briefs on the very kinds of things that I just
talked about, what are the governor's powers and what is
the unique nature of the DC employe deployment. Again, that's

(42:44):
November third. The West Virginia National Guards deployment is expected
to last all the way up potentially to the end
of November.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Bred on standing, did anyone mention? I mean, I know
it's skag right, but are there any yardsmen being represented
that would directly be part of the case to have standing.
I mean, it's my understanding the federal government's paying for this,
so it's not West Virginia tax dollars anything about that
in generating standing. Because Judge Lindsay's questions aside, which I
think are good, you don't have standing?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
What are you doing there?

Speaker 3 (43:17):
So?

Speaker 8 (43:17):
Citizen Action Group's response to that question was largely that
it is an organization of several hundred members in West
Virginia with a core mission of making sure that the
elements of West Virginia government are truly representing the citizens
and going by the law, and they've been involved in

(43:40):
any number of issues. To your point, there were some
questions from the lawyers for the Attorney General's office, asking well,
how many of your members are members of the National Guard,
how many have relatives or spouses who are members of
the National Guard. There was a witness from an action,

(44:00):
the executive director, and you know she could not specifically
answer those questions. But I think the point is an
action's making and you know, you and the listeners can
assess this for yourselves, but this is a question. The
National Guard is a West Virginia resource, a resource that represents, helps,

(44:23):
and is supported by the West Virginia citizens. And so
the organization's point is that when you use this resource,
the West Virginia National Guard, it needs to be done
in a lawful way that truly represents the people of
West Virginia.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
The we're hearing just wrapped up this morning. Another hearing
set for Monday, November third. M Ran, I know you're good,
but did you get a story up already?

Speaker 7 (44:53):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (44:53):
It literally ended and then I called you so no, Well,
you know, I.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Just thought i'd see you know, how quickly you could
type that up. That'll be posted I'm sure very shortly
over wv metro news dot com. Brad appreciate the update.
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 8 (45:08):
November three, Hey, thanks appreciating.

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It's unbelievable how massive those cooling towers are until you
see them in person. There is a memorial there down
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(47:12):
signs to really let you know about. Really sad when
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is the text line eight hundred and seven to sixty
five Talk eight hundred seven sixty five, t alk two
five five. Those the text lines and the phone numbers.
This morning, Jake's on the video stream, Sophia is handling
the phones. TJ is in Charleston this morning. We say
good morning to him once again. Good morning, TJ, Good
morning sir. Happy Friday.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
What are you?

Speaker 5 (48:20):
Twenty three days, eleven hours, six minutes and fifty seconds
at the mark.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I didn't do that this morning, but yeahh who's counting?
Who's counting? Anyway? So I told you at the beginning
of the show. Chris Darwald irritated me this morning. Yeah,
and he's listening right now, so I'll explain why. So TJ,
driving down the road, you ever have a thought and
you go, you know what, I'm gonna flush that thought
out for a minute. And then as you're trying to

(48:45):
figure it out, lowe and beholds somebody else writes an article.
They might be a little bit smarter than you, maybe
a little bit more experience, a little bit more articulate,
and they express the thought that you had in a
way that you'll never be able to do it, and
it kind of irritates you. You get scooped. I didn't
get scooped. I'm just saying Chris Starwaldt did a much
better job of it than I ever could have in
his whole hog Politics. Stywalt joins us on Mention News

(49:08):
talk line this morning. Good morning, Chris.

Speaker 18 (49:11):
It happens to me all the time. It happens to
me all the time. My friend Kevin Williamson, the great writer,
my friend George Well, the great Jonah Goldberg. There's a
slew of people who I'm like, Ah, there's something here
I should write about this. I need to get into it.
And then you open up your phone and there it is,
and it's a dead solid, perfect and you know that

(49:32):
you've been rendered irrelevant.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
A sports writer Chuck McGill used to write for The Gazette.
I think it was just the Charleston Gazette at the time.
We could listen to the same press conference interview the
same players when I was doing more sports writing, and
Chuck would have a way of making the story come alive.
I could never do it. Love him to death. He's
one of the best sports writers. Was one of the
best sports writers in the state. He's moved on to

(49:55):
other things now, but it would always just come make man,
how is he able to how are we able to
see the same thing? And he just makes the story
come alive in a way I never could.

Speaker 18 (50:04):
Envy is the greatest professional compliment.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
So the reason you irritated me this morning, Chris, I
was driving home yesterday listening to coverage of the shutdown,
and I thought to myself, haven't Democrats won Republicans are
going to acquiesce on these extended ACA credits? What are
we doing? And then I read your Hulhulg Politics this morning?

Speaker 18 (50:26):
Yeah, and will will Republicans extend the subsidies now? Will
they do it later? So we've already established what is
going to happen, right because Democrats have very successfully thrown
road flares all around this issue. And by the way,

(50:47):
it's not a pretend issue. The Kaiser Family Foundation every
year does its estimate about what health insurance costs. The
new estimate is twenty seven thousand dollars will be the
average annual cost for a family coverage plan, and seven
thousand of that on averages paid by individuals, and twenty
thousand of it is paid by their employers. This is

(51:10):
wild right, this is a wildly high number. And then
you think about for those folks on the bubble and
individual plans and Obamacare, they're going to get nine dollars
eight hundred, they would get eight hundred and fifty nine
hundred dollars a month. Spikes because of course the subsidy
that came in during COVID. While the subsidy was there,

(51:30):
the subsidy helped not only inflate the cost, right, So
you get a subsidy, you want to inflate a bubble,
have a space where there's subsidies creating upward pressure on costs.
You get that direct inflation. So insurance premiums kept going up,
driven in part by the subsidy. Now that the subsidy

(51:51):
is about to go away, what has happened. The gap
is even bigger than it was when they started, and
it's just not politically tenable for publicans thinking about next
year's elections already in the doghouse on healthcare because of
their aid to then say, yeah, you know what, we're
just letting them expire. We don't care.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
When is somebody going to care about thirty eight trillion
dollars in debt? When are we going to get a
group of CPAs in Washington and fix this? I mean, Chris,
nothing else matters. We're heading toward financial implosion. We're going
to destroy the dollar as the reserve currency. We're going
to uprate, so we're going to constrict the I mean,

(52:32):
when are we going to get it through our thick
skull that this is real? A loting else matters.

Speaker 18 (52:40):
A lot of things matter. Having the world's pre eminent
military matters, people's healthcare matters, people, It all matters. That's
the thing about government is you do not have the
luxury of caring about one thing at a time.

Speaker 14 (52:58):
Right.

Speaker 18 (52:58):
You can't eat like a cowboy and say we're just
going to do this and then we're going to do that.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
You have to do it.

Speaker 18 (53:05):
You have to perform the you have to perform the
repairs on the vehicle as it is hurtling down the highway,
hanging on to the outside of the hood. Now, the
problem on making even modest. So we are at a
point now where eighteen percent of all of the money
that the federal government spends is on debt service. So

(53:26):
we're borrowing, we're borrowing a trillion dollars and then we're
paying a trillion dollars in debt service more than defense. Yeah,
and so ask Dave Ramsey what happens if you pay
off your credit cards with credit cards? Eventually we will
get to the where the pain becomes. So the pain

(53:48):
and inflation that Americans are experiencing, that's that's a debt
and deficit related problem. It's not the only problem, but
it's a big, big part of it. Tariffs add to that,
other things add to that, But debt and deficit create
this big upward pressure on prices, the cost of borrowing,
all of these other things go into it. But the

(54:11):
both parties have agreed that fiscal responsibility is politically unpopular,
and so they're just going to ride it until the
wheels fall off. They'll just go until it becomes totally impossible.
What is that moment of insolvency. It probably first hits
US through Medicare and social Security is probably the first

(54:33):
pinch point. But I don't think there is any political
will in Washington, d C. To do grown up things.
The one big beautiful bill that includes those Medicaid cuts,
it still increases massive increases to debt and deficit. So

(54:55):
I think that we're just gonna run it till the
wheels fall off. People thought oh eight was bad. This
will make O eight look like a petting zoo. I mean,
it's it's not even funny. And let me go the
wrong petting zoos.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
Let me revise and extend my remarks. Some things should
matter more than others. Yes, multiple things can matter. But
I wrote today, this is America's airway and it's obstructed.
We can't breathe. We cannot breathe, period.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
So that's right.

Speaker 18 (55:23):
But how do you tell how do you tell people?
Do you know about the Pentagon papers? I uh, okay.
So the story of the Pentagon papers and the and
the real scandal of Vietnam is that politicians took actions
that they knew would lead to the deaths of American
servicemen in Southeast Asia because they were unwilling to face

(55:47):
the political consequences of telling the truth. Right, So if
you pull back and what's the story of Vietnam, the
story of Vietnam is they knew that the strategy was failing,
and they knew that they were sending people to die
in a lost cause. But there was always a midterm,
or there was always a quadrennial, or there was always
a reason not to level with the American people and
say we have to we have to stop doing what

(56:10):
we're doing. And they didn't do it. And it was shameful, right,
what the Johnson administration particularly did, but the Nixon administration kept,
you know, was no beauty on all this stuff, but
they were getting out of the war. But what the
Johnson administration did on this was just shameful. And I

(56:31):
know for sure that the federal government today is not
willing to level with the American people around the question
of what we can afford and what we can't afford.
And they know it, and when you talk to them
in private, they know it, but they don't do anything
about it because they're trying to get through the next election.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Chris Tarwaltz is joining us. Of course, politics that for
the Hill News Nation, host of The Hill Sunday On
News Nation and Chris it's such an abstract thought. What
a forty trillion dollar, I don't know what trillion. It
could be a one hundred go jillion, and it all
means the same to me. Who's got to get up,
go to work, I got to bow the grass, I
got things to do. It's such an abstract thought. Most

(57:09):
of us don't give it a second thought. Well.

Speaker 18 (57:12):
One of the ways, one of the reasons that presidents,
particularly this one, are so keen to have more control
over the Federal Reserve is that there's one sure way
out of the problem, which is to devalue the currency. Right,
what if thirty eight trillion dollars wasn't that much money

(57:33):
at all? Right, what if you increase the monetary supply
because we have fiat currency. You can just we there
is as much money as the Federal Reserve says there
is money, essentially, and just start adding more zeros and
devalue the crash the dollar. Devalue the dollar, and then
you can repay dear money with cheap money. Right, So

(57:54):
you devalue the currency and blamore, you're out of the
debt problem. Now, of course, what happens.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Then it's cost one thousand dollars.

Speaker 18 (58:03):
She's burn across one thousand dollars, and you also rob
people of their savings. So the federal reserve does this anyway,
because the upward pressure on inflation devalues the assets and
resources that people who were wise enough to save and invest.
It hurts those things already, but it hurts them slowly.
But the most obvious way out of a debt crisis

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like the one in the United States is creating is
to just devalue your currency. That's what the populists the
turn of the last century wanted to do. That's what
populist now will eventually say should be done. Crash the dollar,
wipe out the dollar's value, and then we'll be fine.
So that's why that's the second story on federal reserve independence,

(58:45):
which is if politicians are directly in control of the
Federal Reserve, the pressure on them to devalue the dollar
so that the politicians don't have to make hard choices
will just increase.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
My iPhone is telling me my blood pressure is going up.
Guys can keep talking about this if you want, but
I got to get off it because it just it
infuriates me like absolutely nothing else. What else is in Washington?
What else do you care about anything at all other
than this?

Speaker 18 (59:11):
Well, I just want to say that for people who
are concerned about the big, beautiful ballroom here in Washington,
d C. People can have whatever opinion that they want.
I just love that Republicans, especially Republican dudes, now feel
so passionate about big ballrooms that they're really they're into it.

(59:32):
They care deeply about the entertaining space of the White
House and how beautiful it is. And I listen to
and read the people talk about this, and I'm like,
I had no idea, but I guess if Republicans can
come to love the village people, Republicans can also get
into big ballrooms and loving to entertain in a grand way.
So the more you know, we've got a working class

(59:54):
coalition of Republicans who feel very passionate about the urgent
need for giant, g olded ballroom. So it's a strange
time we live in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Who you got in the World Series or did you
watch the World Series? Or you because the Cardinals aren't
in it, you know you're not interested.

Speaker 18 (01:00:10):
Let's be honest. Uh, getting to watch a generational talent.
Uh as the as we get to see with the Dodgers,
getting to see a guy who can hit score more
runs than he allows as a pitcher.

Speaker 17 (01:00:25):
Uh.

Speaker 18 (01:00:26):
Is this the best sense, Babe Ruth? Uh, certainly it's
It's an astonishing talent. I don't like to see the
Dodgers win, but I'm going to enjoy watching the Dodgers.

Speaker 19 (01:00:36):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Just just absolutely fillet the American League. I was telling
Dave in the first hour. My neighbor thinks that's why
Trump called off the talks with Canada. We'll show you Canada, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
What he told me.

Speaker 18 (01:00:47):
No, we we know, we know why Trump called those
off because he was mad about the ad. He was
mad about the ad that the that the premiere of
Ontario and using Ronald Reagan's words about tariff against Donald Trump,
which made him mad. So apologies to people whose costs
are going up. People have to have to learn to

(01:01:09):
be nicer to Donald Trump or he will make the
cost of your hamburgers go up.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
I don't know if you've seen the ad, but did
the Canadians misrepresent what President Reagan was saying or did
they get it right? No?

Speaker 18 (01:01:20):
Also, by the way, a guy who runs Ai slop
ads of him dumping feces from the bottom of a
plane wearing a crown, complaining about the veracity of selectively edited.
The part that they cut out in the AD is
the part where Reagan is acknowledging that he's violating these
principles because he is engaging in trade restrictions on Japan.

(01:01:43):
So he's saying, I'm putting this in, and then he says,
I wish I didn't have to. It's not a good policy.
I don't want to do it. I am doing this
to Japan because they're acting unfairly. But the goal is
for there to be free and unrestricted trade, and I
don't want to do what I'm doing. That's the part
that they cut out, But that is everything that they

(01:02:03):
put in the AD is consistent with what Ronald Reagan
said and thought about tariffs.

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Why couldn't Trump say the same thing when it comes
to China? Then it worked then, why wouldn't it work now?

Speaker 18 (01:02:13):
Well, but the administration does want to does not want
to pick what these tariffs are for. So you listen
to some Republicans and they will tell you that the
purpose of these tariffs, which are taxes, that these are
taxes that are going to lead us to a place
of more free trade, right, that we will get to
a zero trade barrier world, and that we are going

(01:02:34):
to live in Milton Friedman's nirvana where there is frictionless
trade all the way around the world NAFTA for every
country in the world, and that that that's the goal
in the long run. But then the administration says, actually
the goal is industrial policy to pick and choose which
industries will be benefited. Which this is why the administration

(01:02:55):
keeps taking ownership shares in companies to say, we're actually
going to engineer an economy that we like better and
we're going to get involved in this. So it can't
be both things. What Reagan was saying is tariffs are
a tool that can get you to more free trade.
The administration sometimes says that, but then other times says
this is actually the beginning of an American renaissance. It's

(01:03:15):
going to be painful, but we're going to get there.
And watching what they've done on the price of beef,
which of course I feel personally targeted by watching this
go on, where government policy is driving up the cost
of beef. So the government is going to buy beef
from Argentina and then undercut the farmers who are already struggling.

(01:03:36):
But then we'll give a bailout to the farmers. Does
not feel like, Maybe I'll put it this way. Donald
Trump's approval ratings on the economy, which used to be
like almost sixty percent, are now in the mid thirties,
and the trend line is bad because prices are going up,
and the messaging from the administration is utterly incoherent about

(01:04:00):
what exactly we're doing right now, other than we need
to give Donald Trump as much time and as much
power as he needs to arrange the economy in a
fashion that he thinks will work.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Chris dar Well, politics editor for The Hill and NewsNation.
He's the host of The Hill Sunday on NewsNation, Senior
fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, author of many books
as well, and a Texter. A correct to me. Chuck
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Speaker 18 (01:04:23):
Mail because he was awesome.

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Of course, That's why all the great writers worked.

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Right, Jody Jibden, Mike Cherry. We had the goats. We
definitely had the goats at the Daily Mail.

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Three or four talk three oh four textas is David
TJ is still like your show, just a little too
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Starwalt's not kissing anybody. Uh if that's the implication there,
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It's how Cheetos get a bad name, Cheetos.

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I have stories about Cheeto's none that I can tell
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I see him more on a cowboy hat than I
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Three or four? Talk? Three oh four is the text
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Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
The sports betting scandal makes you second guess whether if
is pro or college? How do the referee miss that call?
That's what I said. I go back to the if
the if these legs and I will include the NCAA
on this. It doesn't matter if it's Major League Baseball
and they're going to robot umpires, they at least don't
have a channel system for balls and strikes. But anytime
there's a missed call, you know, a blatant missed call,

(01:07:56):
if there's a you know, a drop pass in the
end zone, if you are going to question every time
something like that happens, that's it. That's it for these leagues.
If they don't have the integrity, that's it. They're in trouble.
They're in big trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
Good friend of mine sent me a text. He said,
the moral of the story is if an NBA player
invites you to a poker game, turn around in the
run as fast as you can.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
That was actually was it Oceans at eleven? It's in
one of the Oceans movies at the very beginning where
he's rusty is hosting one of those high stakes poker
games with a lot of celebrities. Is it eleven? Yeah,
it's eleven, straight out of the movies. And then did
you read the stuff about the poker games he would
get them in. And then there were the card machines,

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the dealer, the shuffle machines, how they would deal them
out and then they could sell one crazy crazy stuff.
All right, speaking of crazy, we're done.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
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The President is adding a ballroom to the White House
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The NBA scandal makes Pete Rose gambling look like chump change.
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response this week, your lack of regard for no kings,
and so many West Virginia listeners unwilling to use actual facts.
None of this is making me a better person. Shame
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Speaker 7 (01:20:18):
State This morning, I listen to Chris Lawrence as I
usually do in the mornings, and he finally made national news.
The New York City mayoral race now is reported by
Chris Lawrence this morning, and he called one of the
mayorrow candidates a Republican calls Silva. His proper name is
Curtis Sliwat. Okay, but the fact remains, if Chris Lawrence

(01:20:43):
is reporting it, the mayoral race now is a national
news story. That's first. Second of all, the leading candidate,
Mondamin is avowed socialist democrat and it could be the
first Muslim mayor of New York City. He wants government
housing and government of grocery stores, and he's talking about

(01:21:06):
appropriating money for the police department to do these a
care people, therapists, whatever for the humblest and the mentally
people malty challenge people on the sidewalks, and cetera. The King,
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of Commerce are from Brooklyn, New York. The up and
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So TJ, back to your commentary, you are spot on
and you're going to I think Dave's got a reward
for being a moral victory on what you're trying to do.

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The debt of this bill going on with healthcare is
a tree in dollars over the next ten years by itself,
much less the other tree in so any of that,
the New York City people are holding West Virginia and
many other states hostage from SNAP programs to the veterans

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programs to medicare, possibly Medicaid. It's New York City and
it got national news because Chris Lawrence got under the
airwaves and Charleston this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Bill, appreciate it, have a good weekend, and thank you, sir.
Let's go to another bill.

Speaker 27 (01:22:30):
Hey Bill, Hey, it's Friday, so all the bills are here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
What's steam Bill?

Speaker 27 (01:22:39):
I don't have any steam I just wanted to say,
if you would please have mister stowwall on more often.
I really enjoy him and TJ. You worry about the dead,
I worry about depth that we actually live in the
real world. So doesn't it just give you an air
of electricity every time you think about all the great

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politicians we have not representing us.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Bill appreciate it, buddy, have a great weekend thanks to
the call eight hundred seven to sixty five Talk eight
hundred seven sixty five eight two five five, the tax
line three or four Talk three oh four text teams, DJ, TJ.

Speaker 5 (01:23:17):
You talk all the time that government is in too
much debts. Wouldn't you consider the guard deployment a waste
of money when they're walking around the Washington Mall picking
up trash. Activations of the National Guard is very expensive.
Texter says recent cuts to OSHA will not be helpful
in preventing future disasters. This Texter says, if Roger Hanshaw

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buys black Diamond Power, where can you put in an
application to work at air Traffic controllers are working hard
and not getting paid. Members of the House are doing
nothing but getting paid. Well, what is wrong with this picture?
Three All four Talk three AH four. The Reagan Foundation
disagrees with Styrwalt. They say the Canadians edited the video

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which was misleading. The Dems are using the government worker
as collateral damage to slow Trump down. They said at
the start of this administration that they would do anything
they could to slow him down. Trump told the people
that Obama Care was a bad deal from the beginning.
I felt it four years ago. This is just an
excuse to slow him down. Sorry, Government Worker, but most

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of y'all voted for it. Three four Talk three four
is the text line, go on, here be just a
second resetting. Here we go, liberal organization, liberal times, Liberal
judge lindsay sounds more like a LoveFest than a hearing.

(01:24:44):
Money isn't the root of all evil. It's money is
at the root of all evil. Get it right, and
TIFA has nothing to do with the soldiers of WW two.
They are Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Dave and TJ.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
West.

Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
Virginia senators and representatives need to come out in favor
of term limits. We cannot wait. Inflation is up, the
dollar is devaluing, and the national debt is out of control.
You guys are an improvement from the TDS poisoned previous
host says that Texter three oh four Talk three oh
four Republicans have voted to open the government. Anonymous donor

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has given money to pay the military. Republicans are not
your enemy. They're for citizens and country. Where were all
the ballroom haters when Obama spent three hundred and seventy
million dollars on basketball courts and Hillary was stealing furniture
and decor out of the White House. I've said it before,
I'll say it again. I want to see a storybook
of the best unread messages on talk line. Come on, guys,

(01:25:44):
make it happen. Trump's depiction of spreading human waste on
fellow Americans. This is what MAGA supports. Texter says, I
love the new Epstein ballroom steam. There are reasonable ways
to fix social security that are being ignored. Broaden the
number of people contributing, and slightly increase the contributions of

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all three be four Talk three of four.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
That's the text line. You can give us a call
eight hundred and seven to sixty five Talk eight hundred
seven sixty five eight two five five last call for
phone calls still got a lot of texts to get
through your last opportunity to release your steam before the
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Last call for phone calls. Give us a buzz eight
hundred and seven to sixty five Talk eight hundred seven
sixty five eight two five five to release your steam.
You can also text us at three oh four talk
three oh four whatever you need to get off your chest.

(01:28:26):
This is your opportunity going into the weekend. It's back
to the phones. Roger, Hey, Roger, what's your steam?

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:28:35):
I think.

Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
The White House does not belong to Trump.

Speaker 23 (01:28:39):
That belongs to the American people.

Speaker 7 (01:28:42):
And or one more thing. I want to thank the
caller last week this said I sounded like Hopy Cursival.
That was flattery.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Have a good one you too, Roger. Appreciate the steam.
Eight hundred and seven to sixty five Talk the phone
number eight hundred seven sixty five eight two five five, Victoria,
what is your steam? Hey, Victoria?

Speaker 23 (01:29:01):
My stem is Milania is going to get sub peanut
according to the podcaster mister Michael Wolf, and it's going
to take the real King God to call Trump home
in his sleep. So some of this worldly foolishness can
fease a decease.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Victoria, have a good weekend. Appreciate the phone call eight
hundred seven sixty five talk eight hundred seven six five
eight two five five. A couple of text teams here,
uh three or four talk three oh four. Now, I'm
gonna try to do this correctly. DJ six seven Did
I do that correctly?

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
My kids have the text line?

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
Evidently three or four talk three or four. The Obama
basketball court cost the Obama's fifty thousand for two portable
basketball hoops. They didn't tear up anything. They used the
existing tennis courts, says the Texter. Your buddy Chris is
a moron. Combating a trade deficit can fix trade problems
as well as boost American America's industrial potential. Two are

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not mutually exclusive and the Canadians are total hypocrites. Using
Reagan's opinions on free trade while charging American products up
with four hundred percent tariffs well before Trump retaliated and
Trump gave them fair warning. Back to the phones, Vicky
as esteem, Hey, Vicky five, go ahead, Vicky.

Speaker 12 (01:30:23):
No.

Speaker 21 (01:30:23):
I just am very concerned with our government. I'm concerned
with long gas prices. I'm concerned with medical costs, and
I wish they would open up our government to quit
hurting all the American citizens that they're hurting.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Vicky appreciate the phone call. Have a great weekend. Eight
hundred and seven to sixty five Talk eight hundred seven
sixty five eight two five five. You can text the
show at three oh four Talk three oh four. Democrats
have become leftist socialists, says the Texter three or four,
three o four. Crimea river Sobin putin? I'm sorry, I

(01:31:07):
blew the joke. Crimea a river Sobin putin?

Speaker 14 (01:31:11):
Get it?

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
Crimea? We got it?

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
The teaj I did it? I got it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
I don't know not your delivery. I just don't know
if it gets better with age or not. We've heard
it before Steam release.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
So some Democrats have a problem with an AI video
showing feces being dumped all over wooke woke protesters, yet
seemed to smile with giddiness with real shooting of a
presidential candidate and real assassin assassination Charlie Kirk your loans?
Why I and millions of others left that evil, insane asylum?
Fastest twenty seven minutes in radio Trump sending forty billion

(01:31:50):
of our tax money to Argentina and beef, only for
us to buy it back as stupid. Luke Wiggs r.
Radio voice is definitely unique. It sounds like a krooner voice,
almost like he's ready to break out singing a Sinatra song,
says the Texter. The transgender left are mentally ill and

(01:32:12):
causing so much harm to America. There is no middle
ground with them. How can civil debate possibly be had
with those who make prideful decisions to turn against God,
make themselves in their own image, live a life of
self worship, and adopt a new name, just like Satan,
says the Texter. Three or four Talk three or four
is the tax line eight hundred and seven to sixty
five eight two five five the phone number. Couple of

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minutes left to get your steams in before we head
into the weekend. The Dems are using the government worker
as collateral damage to slow Trump down. Do we do
this one already? I think we did, yes?

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Scrolling back through. I want to make sure we get
any that we missed. Three or four talk three four? Hey, Dave,
I took the prop bet on how many fake injuries
Pitt would have in the WU game at five or over.
I took the over and I won big, says the Texter.
Uh Dave and TJ. Anyone who would pass a stopped

(01:33:08):
school bus needs to be put in jail period. Uh
three or four talk three or four. This stuff has
been going on forever. It's laughable that Stephen A. Smith
is blaming Trump talking about the NBA scandal three or
four talk three four.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
Scroll through?

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Is Starwalt is Starwalt? A German name nineteen thirties German
name pronounced steer vault. I don't know, oh not switser punt. Sorry,
I responded, I broke the rules. Broke the rules. I
don't know. That's a good question. Uh, three or four
talk three or four. That's the text line. High school
football coming up Tonight's hard to believe we have reached

(01:33:50):
week nine of the regular season Class four A Game
of the Week Spring Mills and Martinsburg four and three
Cardinals taking on the six and two Bulldogs. That one
is at coben Field. Good one in Class Triple A
tonight as number one Double A. Independence is at number
one Triple A Princeton. Both teams are seven and oh.

(01:34:10):
That should be a good one down in the southern
part of the state. Got Frankfurt Herbert Hoover tonight as well.
That one's Saucy also Sherman at clay Bateel the single
A Metro News Game of the Week. That'll be actually
tomorrow afternoon. Fred Persinger, Dave Jecklin, they will be along
later tonight with all of your scores from around the states.

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Week number nine. That's going to do it for us.
We're headed out of here for the weekend. We'll talk
to you Monday morning ten o six. Have e great weekend,
TJ YouTube All right, we'll see them Monday. This is
Talklina Metro News, the Voice of West Virginia.