* Andrew Abood, Abood Law Firm

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
That's so easy, bitter hairs brown, take my hand, Mama,
We're going to town.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Whoa what no wand up a thing to do?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Eggs over easy has browsing you. We'll have coffee, sausage
and hot buttered toes. Yes, this breakfast is really the
most what a wand up for? Thing to do? Eggs
over easy has brows and you.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We'll go to Good Morning, It's Michael Patrick shields radio
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whenever you might be listening to this program, because you
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and some of the more creative segments that Tony Cuthbert

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decides to post are there as well, and then you
can share them through social media, pick and choose whatever
you like. And we do have an announcement coming soon
about WJIM in Lancing and an expansion. I'm not really
supposed to say much about it yet, but Kirk Squires,

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who's listing in Florida right now on the streaming, texted
me and says, what are you up to? I want
to know ahead of time, and Tony Cuthbert, I'm going
to resist giving him the inside skinny because you know,
you tell one person and it's like the old shampoo
commercial and so on and so on and so on.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's something It's related.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
To what I was just kind of talking about in
terms of our affiliate radio stations across the state. Okay,
and irony of ironies, Paul Long sent me a message.
He's the CEO of the Michigan Catholic Conference. He sent
me a picture out the window of where he is
listening this morning. Can you guess where that is? He's

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at the Godfrey in downtown Detroit, and that's where we're
going to be broadcasting from in mid December when we
do our Detroit shows. So he sent me sunrise over
the Detroit ver because everybody knows when you're looking from
Detroit to see Canada, remember that old thing. I'd be like,
what country would you hit if you went south from

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Detroit And a lot of people thought Cuba, but it's
actually Windsor because it sticks out there. So anyway, he's
doing a little advance work for us. He says they
have a rooftop bar, but I'm not sure in December
that's going to be a viable option for us. It
would be pretty chilly. Thank you, mister Long for that
advance And if you go to visit Detroit dot com,

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you can plan your visit to Detroit. Man who has
business all over the state and has been in high
profile cases all over the country and has recently become
not only a world traveler, but a podcast or too.
With the A List podcast, which you can get at
Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcast. Is Andrew Abood,

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the Abode Law Firm, and he's on our radio stage,
our at and T line right this very moment. Welcome back, counselor.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Good morning, Michael Patrick, and good morning Captain Kirk and
all along.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I mean everybody else and all the ships at sea.
I listened yesterday to the Bill Maher Club Random podcast
because he had Cheryl Hines on who from Kurby Your Enthusiasm.
She's been on the show with me, but she's also
Robert Kennedy's wife now, so I thought it might be interesting.
It was not interesting. And I gotta say, if you

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did a word count of who talked the most, Bill
Maher probably did ninety eight percent of the talking, and
she probably did two percent. And the two percent she
said added absolutely nothing to the conversation. It was kind
of out of her depth for him to talk politics
to her, even though she's married to a cabinet secretary.

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But I thought that was a very disappointing example of
how to operate a podcast. What is your philosophy with
the intriguing guests you've been bringing to the A List podcast.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's about them, not about me. And I'm pretty conscious of,
you know, adding in, you know, my own observations, and
it's really about finding out who they are and why
they are and why they're here in Lancing for whatever reason.
And I mean, once you understand that philosophy, it's easy

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to make it about yourself. It's a lot more difficult
to try and make it interesting about them. Not that
my not that my guests aren't interesting, but it's you
have to temper your ego.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I'd imagine too. The technique must be a lot different
than when you're doing an examination or a cross examination,
because when you're in the courtroom in that situation and
you got somebody on the stand, you almost want them
to answer the questions. You know, you give them a
question and you want them to answer a certain way, right.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, it's the difference between cross and direct and on
cross examination you want to actually be sort of testifying.
So a lot of your questions are isn't it true
that do you agree with this statement? Isn't you know?
So a lot of isn't it true? They have to
say yes or no, and that from a listener's point

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of view, establishes facts. But you don't get to learn
about the the guests. So it's more direct exam and
open ended questions.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Is that why sometimes someone will yell out objection leading
the witness.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, you can't lead your own witness. You can you
can ask leading questions on cross examination. So yeah, it's
your own witness and you're asking a question that really
comes down to a yes or no. It often is
considered leading.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I remember in that Johnny Jeple when Camille Vasquez would
have Amber heard on the stand and she would say
things like you were very angry at mister Depp, weren't
you that kind of a question.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
That would be leading if it was your lawyer. You know,
you're filling in the blank instead of asking how did
you feel about it?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
So that was her cross examination, so she was like
trying to it's interesting. All of this is fascinating to me,
and your podcasts are too. I think you're quite a
natural and very funn.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
You're a master at it. You are a master at it.
You're very very good, and I never worry about coming
on your show because you never try and get a
gotcha moment. And so I think you make people feel
comfortable and open up to you, which is a great
technique and a great skill.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well that's very sweet of you. Just a minute left,
a Flint father was charged with violating the safe gun
storage Dear guys, I got eight years in prison because
his five year old got hold of a gun and
shot herself through her eye and out the back of
her skull. Somehow that toddler survived, Praise God. But the lesson,

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and this is what.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I don't know the lesson. Those are really tough cases.
I had one years ago, and did you. I thought
we were gonna win it, but my guy wanted to
plead guilty and he took a plea and I think
the judge felt bad. Everybody felt bad, but we ended up.
You know, it's other just tough cases. I mean. The lesson,

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for sure is lock up your gun if you have,
especially if you have kids around.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
The second lesson is if you need entertainment, go to
the A List podcast with Andrew Boot And if you
need legal advice go to him too in East Lansing.
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