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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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to make sense of it all. This is movies and marketing.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Next Saturday Night, where're sending you back.

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Speaker 3 (00:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Saturday's episode, Chad, we're talking for the last time. This
is you, hope, the last time we're going to talk
about the twenty twenty four summer movie season because if
I ever have to think about this movie season again,
it will be too soon. But we're talking about it.
Why few reasons A. The summer movie season has officially

(01:03):
come to a close, thank god. At the beginning of
the summer, we each drafted two teams of summer movies.
If you guys didn't know this, if you haven't listened
to the original episode that spurs the Awards episode, you
should go do that now. But we drafted teams to
see who delivers the better box office results. And then

(01:27):
the third that was the second right I'm just kind
of going I'm bouncing all around. Just like my summer
movie draft, Thank your Team. Yeah, it was disorganized, it
didn't come to play, and it fell apart. Just like
my numbered list that started with A then went to
number two and now we're going to letter C. It's
also time to look back on the movies that hit

(01:48):
and miss this summer. I mean, this is the first
time we're talking about the summer as a retrospective. So
that's why we're doing this episode today. If you've not
come to the podcast asked before. At the end of
a summer season, this is what we do do a
summer draft. Memorial Day starts the summer draft, Labor Day
ends it. Okay, so movies have to fall in between

(02:09):
that time period. You go back. We've done it for years, right, Chad, Yeah,
Memorial Day so much hope.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
What's going to happen? Yeah, anything is possible. Yeah, you know,
after Labor Day, you know, the day of reckoning is
upon us. We know what's going to happen. We're here
to tally the results, sweat, dread, angst, missed opportunities, regret,
and for one person, you know, victory, sweet sweet victory.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
And this is a very foreign concept to me, the
feeling of loss, the feeling of regret, despair. So I'm
gonna have to ask you a lot, you know, like
is this the right feeling? You know? Is this how
I'm supposed to handle this? You know? Should I go
see a therapist?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah? It's it's hard. I mean the first year is
the worst. After you know, two, three, year four gets
a little easier. You just kind of you become dead inside,
so you stop feeling, which is nice, Which is nice,
so it doesn't hurt as much.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, you got you gotta really like just put up
a wall.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, it's nice coming into this episode for once not
feeling like I'm gonna just throw up the whole time.
So this is a new feeling for me too.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
You know, if you go back, I mean I would
love if listeners went back and listen to last year
the Award episode. I can literally see a massive difference
in your demeanor and you're you're just overall well being
this episode versus last year. Last year, I thought maybe
I was gonna have to console you, you know, like

(03:48):
I felt like there's real depression that you weren't a funk.
If I can say that.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, after that loss, that crushing, crushing loss, it's nice
to be back. I just feel like the world. You know,
there's flowers. I know, I know it's fall, but I
feel like they're blooming. For some reason, didn't seem like
it was ever gonna happen again, and then something like
this happens. It's an inspiration to all of us. Really,
you never know when things are just gonna completely turn around,

(04:12):
not to you know, put the cart before the horse. Here,
let's kind of step back for a moment. We drafted
at the beginning of the summer. Each of us drafted
teams of seven movies. Before we talk about the results,
let's share those teams with the listeners. I had the
first pick in the draft because you Patrick had the choice. Yeah,
could have picked first in the draft, or you could

(04:34):
have got consecutive picks two and three. You chose to
pass it off to me. You went for those consecutive picks.
So I picked with the number one pick Deadpool and Wolverine, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
And then I picked Inside Out two and a Quiet
Place Day one.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
And then at number four, I swooped in, saw an opportunity.
I grabbed Despicable Me four at number four.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Hmm, and then I picked up furiosa Mad Max Saga.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
The lost movie of the summer. And then at number
six I surprised everyone by grabbing Twisters.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
And then I got Bad Boys for a Ride or
Die you wrote or died with it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:12):
And then at number eight you scoffed as I chose
the Garfield movie. And then I picked The Watchers Real
sad that happened?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, that did happen.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
And then at number ten I picked Horizon, an American
Saga Chapter one, a film we were all talking about
all summer. And then I picked up Trap, and then
I followed that up with my number twelve pick Alien Romulus. Yeah,
Colon Romulus, Yeah, of course, and then I picked up
The Crow, the other movie everybody's been talking about all summer.

(05:43):
And then finally I finished off the draft with the
movie that was eligible for a bonus. We had certain
independent movies that you could grab and you get a
little extra money for them depending on how they performed.
And I got Long Legs.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Which had some long legs. As we'll find out.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
It did end up having some long legs. It was nice.
So those were our teams. Let's see how the summer
ended up shaking out what the top ten movies of
the summer looked like at the domestic box office. Now, remember,
as we mentioned for us, the summer's movies released between
Memorial Day and Labor Day, it means The Fall Guy, Kingdom,

(06:19):
and The Planet of the Apes not Summer movies not
included don't count. So these numbers are as of Monday,
September sixteenth, from Box Office Modere. That's kind of our
cutoff point this year. The number one movie of the
summer from your team Patrick, Inside Out Too, making six
hundred and fifty two million dollars.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
That would be hold in with the New Riley's like
requires more sophisticated emotions than all of you, who you
can't just bottle us up. We are suppressed a.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Motion blit operation. New Riley begins.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
At number two from my team Deadpool and Wolverine, making
six hundred and twenty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Did you think.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Slow motion action sequence?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Who knows if you live or die?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Let's go, Let's fucking go.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, big drop off as we go to number three,
Despicable Me four, making three hundred and fifty nine million dollars.
Still not too bad.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
The most important part of Z is being aware of
potential danger.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
I Dried myself. Number four movie kind of a surprise,
Twisters with two hundred and sixty six million dollars. Number
five anothery're kind of surprise were this position that Boys
four Ride a Die with one hundred and ninety three
million dollars. Number six, a movie nobody picked, was eligible

(08:09):
for the draft. We both overlooked this completely. It ends
with US one hundred and forty four million dollars more.
We all have an idea of what love can be.
I want to see you again. Now you see me?
You know what I mean. But fifteen seconds the one

(08:29):
movie completely off the radar. Number seven A Quiet Place
Day one one hundred and thirty eight million dollars. Number
eight Alien Romulus one hundred and one million dollars, Number nine,
The Garfield Movie ninety one million dollars, and finally at
number ten, Long Legs seventy four million dollars. So hearing

(08:50):
that top ten, you know, and hearing our draft picks,
you probably might have a sense of where things went.
But Patrick, you had the number one movie of the summer.
I think once again I'm not sure how many consecutive
summers it's been you've had the number one movie, but
I'm gonna say it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I mean, I do pick them. One reason I would
probably say is I've had an advantage for like five
years listeners. As you might know, the winner gets to
choose whether you go first or you go second and third.
There is an advantage to that in the strategy. Now,
picking the actual number one movie of the summer, I
don't know how I've done that. It could have very

(09:24):
easily been dead Pool and Wolverine. As a matter of fact,
I thought dead Pool and Wolverine would have probably outpaced
that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, both of them did really good. I was surprised
how well Inside Out to did. I did not expect
it to make quite that much money. So let's share.
We've got some stats from this year's competition. You want
to share the opening weekend numbers?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Patrick, Yeah, so opening weekend, the movie with the biggest
opening weekend was dead Pool and Wolverine with two hundred
and eleven million dollars. That's phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
That's a big one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah. Inside Out two was the second highest opener with
one hundred and fifty four million, and the movie with
the lowest opening weekend, sadly was The Crow with four
point six dollars.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Crow did not fly.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
It did four dollars and sixty cents or four point
six million, pretty much the same thing. Second lowest was
The Watchers, also on my list, with seven million. Yeah.
Those movies, you know, for all intensive purposes, they tanked.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, just didn't connect with people. Maybe in the future
people would be like, ah, we really missed the ball
on these these are classics.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
It could yeah, for sure, probably won't though.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Let's talk about multipliers. The movie with the best multiplier
was Inside Out, which made four point two three times
its opening weekend, which is huge. That's pretty big. Most
movies will have a multiplier usually around like two point five,
two point seventy five. I'd say that's kind of the average.
If you get to three or over, you're doing pretty good.

(10:53):
Inside Out went over four, so that's really good. We
had four other movies in the draft that had a
multiplier over not that many. The Garfield movie Bad Boys
for Long Legs and.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Twisters somewhat surprising. Obviously, Garfield did a little better, right, I.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Think Family movies tend to play longer too. They tend
to have a longer tail than some of the other movies.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
But in general, I think Twisters did way better than
I thought I was gonna do. I mean, you had
a sense that this was going to do better, and
it did. It did really well.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh she's perfect, she's gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
You thought you'd geld destroyed a tornad though we never
had a chance. So yeah, I think you said in
the draft that you wouldn't even have touched Twisters.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have. I mean, it
really was not on my radar whatsoever. And you know,
in hindsight, it probably should have been. I should have
seen the signs, but I don't know. I disregarded it,
you know, I really disregarded it, and I thought it
was a mirage. So the audience response to the five
movies that were draft afted it as an A or

(12:01):
an A minus cinema score, Dead Pulling, Wolverine Inside Out,
Two Despicable Me, Four, Twisters, and Bad Boys.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
For give a little background there. Cinema score. If you
get an A or an A minus, that means audiences
like you. Some movies get an A plus that's like
they love you. Usually, if your cinema score is a
B or worse than a B, that means you're kind
of a pretty bad movie. People usually give you a
pretty high cinema score, but it's kind of hard to
get an A.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
And you know, surprisingly, Bad Boys four has an A.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah. People seem to really respond to that movie though.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, and it was on my list. It did about
what I wanted it to do. But I'm surprised because
the trailers didn't look great.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
No, no, didn't, no, not at all.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
But people seem to love it.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, said it was a good action movie and it
made almost as much as Bad Boys three.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
So the movies with the best Rotten Tomatoes audience score,
I don't think this is any surprise. Dead Pulling Wolverine.
Everybody loved this movie. People raved about this all summer,
and Bad Boys for they both had a ninety seven percent.
The worst Rotten Tomatoes audience score was the one that's
on my list, The Watchers, which no one went and watched.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
It seems to be coming up a lot. Do you
think it's ironic that they're watching us but nobody is
watching them in the movie, Well, just nobody's watching the movie. Yeah,
I do think this movie looks interesting. I've seen that
it's on streaming, and I do want.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
To see it.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
I don't think you'll ever watch it.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well now I think I'm just out of spite. Yeah,
not gonna watch it.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Something happens where once these movies are on your team
and they don't perform for you, it's like they turn
their back on you and you will never forgive them
for what they've done to you.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Is that what it's like, Shad. I I don't know.
I've never I'm telling you this, I've never actually helped
this before. I don't know what this feeling is.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Well, I'm trying to help you through it, trying to
help you through these complex emotions, trying to help you
untangle it. It's not the movie's fault.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
But well, in the case of the watchers, it might
be kind of the movie's fault.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I mean, it might be m Night Shyamalan's fault, not
his daughter him.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
He made the daughter, he made the movie. So it
all kind of begins in one place. But we'll get
to that some more. But first let's talk bonuses. So
in our little game, our little competition we play. We
have a few bonuses that were on the table here.
The first of them was called the Raiders remark. We
just talked multipliers and the movie with the best multiplayer

(14:21):
gets a little bonus here. So Patrick, for having the
best multiplier with Inside Out too, you got a bonus
of a little over twenty million dollars. Pretty sweet.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah it should have been two hundred million, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Just I don't think that would have done it for you.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's still one, but it got me closer.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
We also have the Wick Award. So if you remember,
on our original episode, our draft episode, we each guessed
what we thought our team total was going to be,
how much money we thought our team was gonna make
before bonuses. We couldn't go over that number, Patrick, he
went over. So I ended up being closer by your disqualification,
even though I was off by about three hundred million

(15:00):
dollars with my guess. So for that, I get a
ten million dollar bonus.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
You needed another bonus.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I needed to boost my numbers a little bit. Our
next bonus was the Indie Equalizer. I talked a little
bit about this with long Legs, so certain indie movies
that were on the table were eligible for a bonus.
That bonus was four times their gross, up to one
hundred million dollars. One hundred million dollars seemed impossible until

(15:26):
Long Legs Way overperformed what we thought was possible, becoming
the top movie for Neon, the distributor of that movie. Ever,
So this is a movie I was hoping would make
twenty million dollars. It ends up making over seventy million dollars.
I get that hundred million dollar bonus, So that ends
up becoming not just a seventy million dollar movie, but

(15:48):
one hundred seventy plus million dollar movie. Huge. With the
last pick in the draft, that's a big one for me.
I was pretty proud of that.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
You should be, I mean, Nick Cage, you know, he
does deliver some time.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, And to call that one, that might be my
best draft moment of all time, because I that's picking
a need a out of the haystack.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
It really is. I Mean, you came up with that,
and I thought that's interesting because it was just an
unknown you know what I mean, it really was not known.
You saw something in that, you saw some potential, and
you loved it just enough.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I said, there's a shiny penny. I'm gonna pick that
up and complete good luck. We have one more bonus
that we're not going to get to quite yet because
it's still a little bit of a wild card that's
on the table. So we're gonna save that for the end.
So we're going to table that for now and go
into some awards. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
So, in this segment of our Summer Movie Draft Awards
Ceremony Extravaganza, we each share two awards with each other
for this summer season. You can't use it any other year.
You couldn't use it on any other episode or any
other awards ceremony. It's only here on Speaking Human and

(16:57):
Movies and Marketing. So we're gonna announce what those awards are. Now, Chad,
you wanna go first, You will make go first. I'll
take the first one.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Let me hand you an award, make you feel better,
give you something to take home, polish, put a little
spit on, set it on the mantle. Okay, So the
first award I'm gonna give you is the Plummeting Emotional
Roller Coaster Award. This award goes to both Inside Out
two and the Crow. Yeah two opposing sides of the spectrum.

(17:29):
We've got Inside Out two, our highest grossing movie of
the summer, and The Crow, our lowest grossing movie of
the summer. Together, these movies represent the highs and lows
of the summer movie season, the highs and lows of
Your Team, which had a massive hit on par with
Barbie and June, and a movie that couldn't even muster
a five million dollar opening in August. They also represent

(17:53):
the downfall of your dynasty in the summer movie draft
that has tortured my life for the better part of
the past five years. Congratulations on your award, the plummeting
emotional overaller Coaster Award.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Thank you, Thank you. I'd like to thank all those
at the Academy and all of those in Hollywood for
disappointing me and letting me down this year. My emotions
have plummeted this year for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I find myself getting ready in the morning thinking about
what have I done wrong this year to make me
feel like this? And then I just keep being reminded
day in and day out because my movie's underperformed. So
thank you. My first award for you, Shad. I love
to give you long named awards.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, they're the best kind.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
So I call this award Shad swings open the cellar
doors and begins reducing the lead Patrick has on him
chasing the dreamy vortex of winning award.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's a great title.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, and this one's for not only choosing those damn
minions again, because that was my real strategic blunder this year. Yeah,
if I had to pick minions, I would have been
I would have been doing a little bit better, a
little bit better.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
You'd be in the game.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah. Yeah, but also seeing the twist. You saw the
twist this year, and that is the box office twist
that Twisters spun during the summer season. So congrats Shad.
This is the Shad swings open the cellar doors and
begins reducing the lead Patrick has on him. Comma chasing
the dreamy vortex of winning award.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I mean, what can I say other than I love
any award that has dreamy vortex in the title.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
So many great, so many great items in there. The
cellar doors kind of calls back to what we were
just talking about, the original Twister, right.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
The original twist. Yeah, we're spoiler alert, something bad happens.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, something won't. We won't spoil it. It's only been
one hundred years since that movie came out.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
For my next award, Patrick, I thought about giving you
the Despicable You Award for, as you mentioned, passing up
Despicable Me for for a Quiet Place three, a move
that costs you about two hundred million dollars. But I thought, nah,
I won't rub that in. Then I thought about giving
you the you Have to Beat Furiosa Award for taking Furiosa,

(20:12):
a movie that would go on to finish tenth in
the draft with your fifth pick.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, but I.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Thought, no, why, why bring that up again? I even
thought about giving you the Willing Yourself a Small Victory
Award for getting a hit with Bad Boys four willing
will Smith get it there?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I got that. That's nice.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
I like that. Yeah, but I'm not gonna go for
that terrible pun. So instead I went with the watch
Me Step into this Trap Award. Why because only an
overconfident consecutive four time winner would make a historically bad
move like selecting the Watchers and trap two shamalans, one

(20:52):
from dad and one from daughter, and not just in
the same year, but with back to back picks. Yeah,
this was the moment moment I knew you truly believed
you were walking on water. It was like you were
daring the movie gods to teach you a lesson, and
teach you a lesson they did. These movies made a
combined sixty million and both finished outside the top ten

(21:15):
for the summer, with the Watchers making less than twenty
million dollars, proving once again you should never bet on
a Shamalan and if you do, don't bet on two Shamalans.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, you really identified the problem with winning too much.
You start to believe you're untouchable. You really do, and
not untouchable in a good way, because it really does
hurt you when you feel that way. That's a very
good war. Thank you for that. You know, I'll take
a little bit of that spirit and I'll put it
into your next award, which is the trapping Patrick in

(21:47):
deep space with a xenomorph actively bursting out of his
chest and leaving only a hollowed out shell of a body.
Shad watches in delight at the Despicable Site award. This
is for destroying me with your picks and leaving me
in what feels like the cold dead of space. Will
gravity pull me back to the surface of Earth so
I can once again get grounded and choose better picks

(22:09):
next year? Only time we'll tell, but I'm I'm pretty
confident it's also possible the xenomorph makes it back to
Earth with me, which be disastrous for mankind. So that
is your award. Trapping Patrick in the deep space with
a xenomorph actively bursting out of his chest and leaving
only a hollowed out shell of a body. Comma Shad
watches in delight at the despicable site.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Might be your longest title yet in history.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
They only get longer as time goes on.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
But points to a good thing. And something that happens
in this game is man, your fortunes sometimes are just
hanging on a dime with some of these things, like
I can think of us picking. I think they were
back to back picks, the Trap and Alien Romulus, which
at the time I was like, these are both kind
of interesting movies, and you could see them going the

(22:55):
other way than what they actually went, you know, where
Trap made a little more and Romulus was like not good.
You know, one was better than the other, and one
kind of swung better than the other. But that's just
not you don't know how these things are going to
play out exactly, like what's going to be good or
what's going to be better received In the beginning of
the summer, you know, you just kind of have the
promise of these things, and so some of them it's
like a top just spinning and it's like you can't

(23:16):
really tell. And so sometimes it just feels like, man,
when you're down, you're just getting stomped. You're down, and
when you're up, it's just like, ah, another one plays
right into my hands. Got a little bit of that,
Patrick Jebber feeling the summer, and I gotta tell you.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
It feels good riding high, the emotions, the adrenaline, the
tiger blood, you know, the winning, the hashtag winning. For
anyone who loses a lot in life, you could be
the biggest loser in history and come back and win.
You know, I'm not talking about you, right, Okay, Okay, yeah,

(23:51):
because that doesn't make any sense. We were just talking
about movie draft. But I'm just saying like, you could
lose a lot and you could come back and destroy
and you felt hopeless last year you were like or
at least the way you described it. You were like,
you know, there's no hope, You're just on the streak,
and I just don't know how I'm ever going to
come out of this, And you came out of it.
I think that's that's a glorious message.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
I thought it was going to take much longer. I
thought it was going to be in for the hole
for at least ten.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Years till like twenty thirty and we'd be like, oh
my god, you finally won.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
It happened twenty thirty one was Chad's ear. Well, that
being said, let's get to the moment you've all been
waiting for it. The results of this year's Summer Movie Draft.
So here are the totals for each team. So for
my team, my team total ended up being one billion,
five hundred and forty three million dollars. On top of that,

(24:45):
I got one hundred and ten million dollars in bonuses,
giving my team a final total of one billion, six
hundred and fifty three million dollars. How'd your team do, Patrick.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Well, you know I did crack the bill million mark.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
You did?

Speaker 2 (25:01):
You did, which is impressive. Yeah, I mean anytime you're
over a billion dollars, I think that's pretty good. My
team total was one point one billion dollars. My bonuses hmmmm,
not so great. Twenty one million, eh, you know, so bad.
And my final total was, you know, still one point
one billion dollars. If you want to go into the millions,

(25:22):
you'd be one billion, one hundred and forty four million.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
So grab as much as you can get. So the
difference between our teams ended up being five hundred and
nine million dollars. So I'm ahead of you by five
hundred and nine million dollars. But yeah, the competition is
not over yet. We have one more bonus yet to
be played. As I mentioned earlier, before we can record

(25:47):
the final tallies. This is a little bonus we call
trade back to the Future. I'm going to tell the
people how this bonus works, Patrick, So, this bonus allows
each team to trade trade one movie.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
So Shad and I where the teams. This allows each
of us to trade one movie on our list for
a movie from a previous year that finished in the
domestic rankings the same number as the draft pick that
we're trading. So like if Shad had the first draft pick,
he could trade that. So, for example, if a player
decides to trade the movie on their list that was

(26:22):
the seventh pick in the draft. They would get the
seventh number seven movie of the summer from whatever year
it is randomly picked. This is the loophole. Yeah, that's
the twist.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, the year you get your movie from will be
randomly chosen. So some years might give you great numbers,
some not so much. So anytime in the past kind
of forty years between nineteen eighty four and twenty twenty four.
I don't know if we want to include this year.
Should we put that on them?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, no, it would be it would be the previous year, right.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Well, I didn't know if we wanted to include it.
Like you try to go back, but you can't. You're
just like stuck with what you have.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Oh, I get I don't know. I guess, so yeah
you could, I guess.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah. I don't know if that's fine or not.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, So the big question is will we be trading
back to the future. And I think you know, for
the listeners out there, this is the idea behind this bonus,
is that you know, if you're losing, it does give
you an opportunity to potentially come out on top. It's
like a hail Mary essentially, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
The nice thing about it is, for Shad, pretty much
nothing that I could do can bridge the five hundred
million dollar gap. I don't think there's any choice I
could make to do that.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, I don't see a scenario where you're going to
be able to trade a movie get that much money.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
But but closing the gap a little bit would be
worth it, you know, and I have nothing to lose.
I've already lost. Right, we all know this, we all
see it. It's a five hundred and nine million dollars, major,
major hole.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
So that being said, it seems like you are going
to opt to trade back to the future.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, absolutely, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
What pick? What movie are you gonna trade?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I am gonna pick my number two, which is the
number three overall.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
A quiet place day one. Yeah, an underperformer, surprising underperform.
I mean, it wasn't bad one hundred and thirty eight million,
but it wasn't good. And you know, just to let
the listeners out there now, I'm only just making an
attempt to just add a little money so that maybe
it's like a three hundred million dollar losing by three
hundred million dollars.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Isn't so bad? Five hundred and nine million dollars. That's
a whole major movie.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And depending on what year you get with the number
three pick, you might be able to get a significant
amount of money. Yeah, you know, and you're obviously you
already have one hundred and thirty eight, but you know,
say you get like four hundred, you may be able
to up it by like two hundred million or something.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah. Yeah, So what we'll do is we'll randomly pick
the year in which I'm swapping.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
I got the years up here? Are you going to
randomly generate?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
So I will randomly choose a year between nineteen eighty
four and twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Let's see what we get or what you get.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Come on, baby, big money, big money, twenty twenty three?
What is that?

Speaker 3 (29:08):
So twenty twenty three? Number three would be Guardians of
the Galaxy Volume three, which made three hundred and fifty
nine million.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Wasn't that? In May?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Though?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
It is?

Speaker 3 (29:21):
But weird for these purposes not restricting the timeline.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, then that's what it did it do? Three hundred
and fifty eight.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Let's punch it in and find out. So we replace
the Quiet Place runch in the number here, So that'll
take you to one million or one billion, three hundred
and sixty four million, which will only put you down
by two hundred and ninety million only. I mean, that's
it upgrade until I trade back to the future.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
You should do your number one pick. I wull it'd
be funny if you've lost, because you.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
You're probably thinking right now, I don't really need to
do it right, but.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Do you just want to try just for the sake
of well, it's.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
More than that I have this flawless list other than
one spot. The only flaw on my team, as Alanis
Morissett would say, the black fly in my Chardonnay horizon.
You know, it's just sitting there. It's like a mar
So I need to erase that so I can have
the perfect summer movie season. So that's the number ten.

(30:29):
Pick choose me a year.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Two thousand and six, two.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Thousand and six, Interesting one, two thousand and six. Number
ten The Devil Wears Prada one hundred and twenty two million.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Pretty good.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
I mean it's a good number. I don't have a
relationship with that movie, but I'll take the number.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's a good movie. I think if I remember correctly.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
I mean people seem to like it. They liked it
better than Horizon. I mean we were making some good
money back then. If our number ten movie was making
a hundred and twenty two million, well, with the devilwaars
Prada the final tally, I end up up by three
hundred and eighty three million, So you cut the lead.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, that's a respectable lead.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
It's better than five hundred. Five hundred felt like a
bridge too far.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I mean three hundred is a standard number three movie
that you won by five hundred and nine million is
a top tier like number one movie usually, like the
Deadpool movie.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
It's close to that number. I get what you're saying.
Lessens the blow a little bit. Yeah, in the future,
I have told you this. I do predict there's going
to be a draft that comes down to the back
of the future bonus. Somebody's heart is going to get
broken by a back in time pick.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, because there's going to be a draft that's close enough.
This year was not a great year for that. And
this is a new bonus. If listeners aren't aware, this
is a new bonus that we instilled this year. We've
been trying to do some new ones each year and
try to figure out like fun things to keep it fresh.
I think we'll keep that one because I think it's fun.
It's anything can happen up until the last minute.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah, if somebody's killing it, it's not going to change
the outcome a lot. But if it's close enough, someone
can take it.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah. There would have been a lot of things that
would had happen to get close enough, like your long
legs bonus, if it wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
If people went to see the Watchers.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
If anyone would I went to see the Watchers or
the crow.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Well, let's wrap this thing up. Let's wrap this summer up.
Let's talk about the movies we got this summer. What
do you think? Good summer, bad summer, average summer. Where
do you fall? Uh?

Speaker 2 (32:30):
It was pretty average. There was nothing super intoxicating about
this year. I looked forward to Deadpool, but you know,
nothing that really struck me. And I feel like this
is every year I there's like one or two that
really striked my fancy. But this year, you know, it
was just Okay, what did you think?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
I thought at the beginning of this summer, I thought
we were pretty low on the amount of movies we had,
so the results we got from what we had was
much better than I was anticipating, especially like box office numbers.
I mean, we had two six hundred million dollar movies,
eight to one hundred million dollar movies, and a decent
I know, a lot of them are sequels, but it's
a decent variety of the types of movies we got.

(33:08):
I thought some of them are pretty good, fun summer movies.
So when I was looking at the list in the
beginning of summer, I thought this was going to be
a pretty bad, low attendance. You know, nobody's interested summer.
And it turned out better than I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, box office wise, for sure. Personally, I know that
you are saying all of that mainly because you really
loved the Garfield movie.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I saw it in the theater, I saw it in
three D.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Of course you did, and it.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I can say, very honestly, it was the worst movie
I saw this summer. Not only that, completely untrue to
the Garfield It had nothing to do with Garfield, the
character that's been established for the last forty years.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
It's like rebranding an entire character. You know, you're taking
the name, but you're changing everything else about.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
It still made ninety million without a problem. So it
shows you with like family movies, you can kind of
make some easy money even with a pretty crappy product.
What movies did you see this summer? And what was
your favorite of the movies you saw this summer?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I saw Deadpool, Quiet Place, Day One, Trap, and then
on streaming I saw Furyosa. That movie left pretty quick,
but yeah, my favorite was probably Deadpool in the theater.
I would like to see it again, just because there
were so much there were so many jokes, there were
so many like little nods that I thought I missed

(34:27):
a lot of it, but I didn't really want to
go back and see it again in the theater.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I'm the one person who did not see Deadpool. I
think you didn't see Deadpool. You didn't see your own movie. No,
I haven't seen it, so I don't know. Maybe I'll
probably watch it someday. My interest level was.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Like moderate, I think you'll enjoy it. It was you know,
I know you how you are with superhero movies, but
it's really not that it's like kind of poking fun
at all that and it's it's all about fourth wall
breaking at this point. I mean, I think you would
enjoy it just because of it.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
I think I would too. I just am like, it
wasn't a rush to see for me.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, why would you? Why would you rush to go
see it? You're already on top.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah, it seems like everybody else is going to see
it just fine. So I didn't see that one. I
saw Alien Romulus. I saw Twisters. I saw Quiet Place
Day one. I saw Furiosa, which I saw at the
theater because I panicked in the beginning of the summer
and I'm like, nobody's going to movies. It's all going
to end. We're not going to have movie theaters anymore.
I saw Despicable Me for and I saw the aforementioned

(35:23):
Garfield movie. My favorite of those was Alien Romulus.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, I remember you tell me you enjoyed that. You
saw a lot of movies at the movie theater this summer.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, try to get there. You know, we have kids
and stuff, so we go to a good amount, and
I'd just like to go support the theater. The other
notable thing that I told you about was Twisters. Saw
it in the D box. Yeah, vibrating seats added to
the experience made me enjoy the movie a little more.
I thought that was a good one too.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
In recent memory, though, this is the most I think
you've been to the theater. And I do know that
there's like a reason for that, because you're sort of
hitting that apex where your kids are old enough to
go see movies that aren't like one hundred percent kid movies.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Now, well, it's like almost both they're still in the
kid movie box, and yet they've like they're leveled up,
so they can kind of hit the you know, PG
thirteen or things a little above that too. So it
gives us something whenever we need something to do. You know,
that's always a good option to have, and you can
see things that aren't totally terrible, like the Garfield movie,

(36:24):
sometimes things that you're actually interested in.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Well, you're riding high, my friend, You're riding high.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I mean, everything's good. I'm always sad to put the
spreadsheet away for the season, but this one, at least,
I'm feeling good. I'm not like I can't wait till
next summer. I gotta get back on it.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I can rest easy, I can enjoy it, take a
vacation well, and next year this is gonna be my
motto from this year. It's gonna be ride or die.
I'm gonna have to make it work. Whatever next year brings,
I'm gonna have to make it work.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Now you've fallen off your high horse a little bit,
you're gonna have to do the work again.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, I'm going to bring it back. I had the
tiger baby. Well that's it for this episode of movies
and Marketing. Everyone, We hope you enjoyed the summer movie draft.
Until next time, let's fade to black. I'll be back.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
He's not coming back.
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