May 23, 2025 • 52 mins
From the world of MOMA: Two jurassic supermen go full final reckoning, getting freakier and more fantastically fourward as they train dragons, dodge zombies, and try not to get M3GAN’d while drafting the summer’s biggest box office hits.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In a world where movies rely on marketing more than
ever to connect with audiences, one podcast aims to make
sense of it all. This is movies and marketing.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Next Saturday Night, where're sending you back to the future?
Go ahead, make my day?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
How about now you're crazy Dutch past.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What we've got here is failure, Newgate. Take them around
across all about. We might as well have a good time.
I am an a.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
F I agent from the world of MoMA to Jurassic
Superman go full Final reckoning, getting free here and more
fantastically forward as they train their dragons dodge zombies.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'm trying not to get megan while drafting.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The summer's biggest box office hits.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, well, Patrick, this is it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We have arrived here again. Essentially, this is the purpose,
not just of this podcast, but some would say, of
our lives, our reason for being. The Summer movie draft
an annual tradition dating all the way back to twenty sixteen.
Oh next year, ten year anniversary.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh my god, I know we're so old. And by us,
I mean the podcast, the podcast, of course. Yeah, not us,
not us, We're still young in spry. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So those who have you been following the summer movie Draft,
which is most people because it's very exciting. The series
currently stands at three to five. That is me, I
have three wins. You have five wins, which is slightly more.
Something amazing happened last year that hadn't happened in a
(02:09):
long long time. I actually won this draft. You see
three five, You're like, that's you know, that's not too bad.
That seems pretty close. It has not been close for
a long long time. The last time I had won
this was twenty eighteen. So it was a big event
for me. Some would say a life changing event. I've
(02:30):
been walking on air pretty much since then. But hits
like Deadpool and Wolverine, Twisters and Long Legs, the surprise
hit of the summer that I called in the draft
propelled me to this momentous victory, changing the course of history.
Some would even say.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, changed the course of your history.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, I'm not dead in the ditch. No.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, you were pretty somber prior to last year.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I was spiraling.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeh.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
After some of those losses.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You thought there was no way back, there was no redemption.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, it was getting it was getting dark.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You started wearing black eyeliner. He went full emo.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah. I was listening to the Cure a lot. Yeah,
and now there's optimism, there's hope. The question is can
I keep it up? Can I do it again?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah? You're looking for a repeat, because if you can repeat,
you're getting dangerously close to tying up the standings so far.
And I gotta be honest with you, it's always possible.
Like we've talked about, give it enough time.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
The trajectory is going to change.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah. Whoever's on the throne, it has to be dethroned
at some point.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, you can't stay on top forever.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah. Well, I don't know. We'll see, we'll see. I
know that people are rooting for the underdog Shads, so
they're rooting for you. Yeah, and I'm rooting for you too,
you know, I mean, I really am. I'm thinking if
Shad can pull this off, then maybe maybe there's hope.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
There's a chance for all of us.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
There's a chance for all of us.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well, let's find out what's going to happen. The summer
movie season kicks off now with the draft today. Let's
get into it. After we go through the rules very quickly.
For those who haven't listened before, and maybe they don't
know some of the rules or how this game is played. Patrick,
give us the quick lowdown here. Yeah, if you listen
(04:25):
to this every year, sorry, you know, but there are
some new things that little tweaks that we've made over
the years, so it's a little fresh. Yeah, keeps the
game interesting mm hm.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So everyone always loves to know this. We each draft
seven movies. The team whose movies have the highest combined
domestic box office total at the end of the summer wins,
domestic being United States. For our overseas listeners, we don't
count global box office, but we do have a few
specific rules. The main rule is finding the summer movie season.
(05:01):
This is where we differ sometimes from lists online and
all that stuff. That is, any movie released in the
US in the theaters from Memorial Day weekend through Labor
Day weekend, so we always count those two holidays. This year,
Memorial Day is May twenty third, September first is Labor Day,
(05:22):
and then the other caveat to that is only theatrical releases,
so we don't count streaming. We can't verify the numbers
at least yet. Maybe one day they'll do something where
we can, but until then only theatrical releases.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So a big one we have. And this is the
real wrinkle that kind of can change or make this
more strategic than just simply draft it, you know, going
through and drafting. The winner gets to choose between taking
the first pick and the fourth pick or getting picks
two to three consecutively. So as last year's winner, I
(05:57):
get to make this choice. Not an easy pick, as
you know, Patrick, you really got to think this through
and look at the list of movies and figure out
how you want to approach this.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, it's a lot of strategy in that one choice
that the winner has to make. Last year, I made
a choice and maybe that was the determining factor. I
don't know, But you do have an upper hand when
you get to choose two and three because potentially those
are the two best movies next to each other, sometimes
maybe even better than the first pick that the winner chose,
(06:30):
you know.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, we also have some other bonuses. We'll kind of
run through these real quick, Patrick, Do you just want
to kind of give an overview of some of these.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, as a preface, we have four bonuses. Okay, first
one raiders rewards. It's rewards the movie with the best
legs making the most money beyond its opening weekend. So
we name this after Raiders the Lost Arc from nineteen
eighty one, which the Numbers reports is the legis movie
(07:01):
of all time, opening with eight million and ultimately earning
two hundred and twenty five million. So that was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, played for a long time at theaters.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah. Then we have the Wick Award. That's each team
will guess, so Shad will guess, I will guess their
total box office before bonuses during the draft, So we
guess this, and then the team that comes closest to
hitting the target without going over gets a bonus. And
this is obviously named for John Wick, who can seemingly
(07:32):
fire a gun blindly and hit his target or man
or woman Yeah, could be anybody. Yeah, non discriminate. Then
we have the Indie Equalizer, so with each person's final pick,
we have the option of selecting from a list of
films released by independent studios. So if you choose one
(07:53):
of these movies, you'll be awarded the gross of the
movie plus a bonus of three times the growth of
the movie, with the bonus capped at one hundred million, so.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You can get a good bonus off that it's kind
of to you know, level the playing field so the
indie movies can get in there.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, and this was named for the Equalizer because this
bonus evens the playing field for indie movies, even though
the Equalizer wasn't really an indie movie.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No, but you know, the Equalizer equalized.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Then the most fun and weird and crazy bonus that
we have the option of is trade back to the future.
So this one we installed last year, right, Yeah, that
was the first year. So at the end of the
summer when we tlly the results, each team could choose
(08:44):
to use this one option with one of their picks.
So you trade back in time for a movie that
finished in the domestic rankings the same number as the
pick that you're choosing to replace, so number one through fourteen.
The twist is the year will be picked randomly from
the years nineteen eighty five to twenty twenty four by
(09:05):
spinning a wheel. This is where it gets crazy because
you just it's just random. It's I mean, it's roulette.
Some years could give you a great result, while other years,
you know, you're left wishing you would have kept your
original pick.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, you might get an upgrade, you might get a downgrade.
This is a real wild card.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Oh yeah. I mean in a year where you're real
close and you have nothing to lose because you're under
this could give you the upper hand.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, could be the difference maker. And what is this
one name for? In case people don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Oh, come on, the greatest time travel movie of all time.
But it transports a movie from another year into the draft.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So you know, and we said it last year, there's
gonna be a year where the champion is decided by
this bonus the trade back to the future. Well, yeah,
I believe this could be that year. Just how kind
of tightly packed the movies are. It seems like this
is just my interpretation. I look at them, and I
see a lot of movies that I'm like, Ah, they
(10:07):
all seem like they could kind of do the same.
I don't know, if there's like a big runaway gonna
be a huge runaway hit. You don't know. Ah, that's
just me looking at the movies now. But this could
end up being that year.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah. And then you know, this isn't really a rule,
it's an unsaid rule, but smack talking is encouraged during
this draft. You know, it's just like any sporting event, you.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Gotta play the game.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Mm hmm. Yeah. All right, now that you know all
of the rules and you're probably head is spinning because
it's craziness. It's just insanity. Let's get to the draft.
Let's start drafting our movies.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, let's pick the movie. So we have a list,
you know, of the summer movies, the big summer movies
coming out. We're kind of using that. We're going to
go through as we know, as we discussed, the winner
from last year gets to pick whether they go first
or takes picks two and three reconsecutively. I'm now gonna
make that decision. And that decision is I'm gonna take
(11:06):
the first pick in the draft.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Oh you have confidence?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well, you know what it is. It's a I look
at these movies and I kind of fell on one
movie that I think is gonna be the biggest hit.
I think this one kind of stands out. I'm taking
a play from you Patrick, the first movie out of
the gates, getting that Memorial Day weekend, making some of
that you know, money, and then we kind of take
(11:31):
off in June, make a bunch of money. I think
This one's gonna be the number one movie this summer,
and that's Lee Low and Stitch. I'm corstraight French. No
dogs on the table, Yeah, Rough, I'm going to give
(11:54):
you to the calf three Stitch. It's gonna hit that
family audience, gonna hit that Memorial Day weekend, start the
summer off strong. I don't think it's gonna do like
Inside Out did last year. Could hit like four hundred
(12:15):
million or something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I think this is a beloved classic, and I think
it's gonna do really well. And I think live action
version is gonna do really well. I'm a little jelly.
I think this would have been on my list for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Would that have been your number one? I guess you
don't have to tell me because that gives away where
you're going.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Now, Yeah, I can't. I don't know if I could
tell you that. I don't know if I could tell
you that. But I have two and three. So I
am going to go with Mission Impossible.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Your team is going to betrayed.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Eth, everything you are, everything you've done, just.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Come to this. That would be in case anybody doesn't know,
that's Mission Colon Impossible, Dash the Final Reckoning. I think
that's how they're playing it out there with the title.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, which they got rid of the you know, the
other one was Dead Reckoning Part one. People didn't like
that this is no longer like part two, and they
just went with Dead Reckoning Final Reckoning.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, they improved their naming structure for that. I don't
know if it's really an improvement though, but you know,
so that's May twenty third that hits at the same
time as your Lee.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Low, another big Memorial Day weekend. I love the pick.
I want to see the movie. I think you might
have jumped the gun on this one. Dead Reckoning ended
up with one hundred and seventy three million. Now, granted
that came out at the same time as the Barbenheimer
Yeah phenomenon, which kind of Oppenheimer knocked it off all
the IMAX screens and everything. But might be a little early.
(13:58):
Can Tom get that high? Can he be the number
two movie of the summer?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It might be hard because Lee Lo and Stitch, But
I think those are two different audiences and I think
it's like, right now people are craving that, and you know,
coming into Memorial Day that's gonna be a big one.
So I think it's gonna do close to, if not
roughly the same. And you know, good old Tom he
has a tendency to drive home the box office numbers
(14:23):
for us.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, I think the Memorial Day release will bump it
up to as opposed to they usually come out like
July or something like that. So what's your number three?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
So my number three, I think I'm gonna go ahead
and take I'm gonna take Superman.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Day. We home.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We got James Gunn at the Helm. You know. A
part of me is like, I don't know, DC movies
just generally have a hard time, but they're making a
big push because he's now taking over this DC world.
It's got a dog, it's got a dog. He's changing
it up. Some people say, you know, he's using his
(15:11):
Guardians of the Galaxy magic, so maybe he'll have some
of that. Another part of it is a lot of
it's shot in Cleveland, so that's very true, you know, hometown,
little hometown, love over here. So I'm I'm hopeful that
that will do some money. And it's Superman so for
(15:31):
the summer, because it comes out July eleventh, it's like
got that July fourth kind of feel to it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
This is the movie could be the biggest movie the summer,
you think, so could kind of bomb? Would I don't
want to say bomb, Like, it's not gonna make money,
but it's not gonna make as much money as they
think it's gonna make in that sense, right, they're relying
on this to be like Bumping up DC. I don't
know if it's gonna get there, just based on like
Superman versus Batman made three hundred thirty, which is a
(16:00):
good size hit. I don't know if this is gonna
get there. So I'm glad you took it here because
I if it came to the fourth spot, I was
gonna feel like I had to take it, and I
would be really nervous about taking it because that's kind
of the way I feel about it. Yeah, but it
has such a potential upside you almost have to.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I did like the Man of Steel Henry Cavill was awesome.
Will this compare? I don't know that movie two hundred
and ninety million Man of Steel. Can this Superman do
the same? That's probably where.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I put it at.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, maybe maybe?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
All right? Moving on from superheroes that we've seen repeatedly
before to something else we've seen repeatedly before, which is
my number four pick dinosaurs of Jurassic World.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
If no one's dumb enough to go where we're going.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's right. I'm taking Jurassic World colin Rebirth. We had
the original movies, then we had the Jurassic World trilogy movies.
Now we have Jurassic World again, but Reborn. The one
thing you could say is these movies tend to make money.
(17:14):
So that's what I'm taking it. All of the ones
in the previous series. We know, Jurassic World was there
when that first came out was massive, but all of
the ones in that trilogy made over three hundred million.
I don't know if this will do that, but it'll
probably come close. It seems to me like a pretty
safe bit.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I don't know, man, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You think they're dead, you think they're extinct.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I think you're gonna get dinosaur people, people who love
dinosaur movies. I think you're gonna get them.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Oh not, damn, those are the worst people.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
You're gonna get. The Scarlet Johansson fans. Yeah, for sure.
I think people are sort of over this franchise. We
had that resurgence like the first one that came out
in the World series. You know, there was decades yeah
before that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That gap, that gap is very important because it builds
up in anticipation.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Right, and there's a there's like, you know, this nostalgic
love that happens just like the Force awakens. Yeah, right,
this though, you know, when they start pomping them out
every year to two years, it's like, come on, it's
really essentially what happened to superhero movies is like every
three months we were getting a superhero movie and then
it just.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You know, I can't disagree with you. I think I
think though even at its worst, this one will still
you know, at least make a couple hundred millions of dollars.
But you're right. The fact that we're being reborn after
the last movie just came out in twenty twenty two,
it's a little it's a little absurd. What do you
got next?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You know who hasn't let me down? John Wick? John
Wick hasn't let me down.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That means I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Gonna choose from the world of John Wick Colon Ballerina.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
You're him, it's the one they called them, Baba Yaga.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
How do I start doing what you do looks like
you already have.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
This comes out June sixth, pretty soon, Scott on a
date on mos lovely as we like to say, because
we don't know how to pronounce your name. I should,
but I don't. And a little cameo seems like from Keanu.
So people are gonna go They're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Like, oh, how how much is he gonna be in there?
That's that's almost the big question.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, And I think that's why it's got some pull
at the box office. I think people are gonna be
just curious, you know, because he died in the last one, supposedly,
so people want to get their john wickfix. Oh john
wickfix dot com. We're gonna we're gonna get that on
on the books.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I agree, people want their john wickfix. Grab that url.
I don't know about this one though, from the world up.
I mean, they obviously went out of their way to
get John Wick up in the title.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
They needed the john Wick name to make this movie,
and I think that that's a clever way of riding
on the coattails or pulling from the same audience, you
know what I mean. So even if it gets a fraction,
maybe it doesn't go as high as the last John Wick,
because like, if we look at previous John Wicks, Chapter
four got one to eighty seven, those movies kept building. Yeah,
(20:22):
you know, so maybe it doesn't get that high. If
even if it's somewhere close to that, I'd be happy
with it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I mean, if it cracks one hundred, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah. I think it's going to do one fifty. You're
thinking one fifty, Yeah, but who knows. Maybe people will
be like, man, this is what we've been waiting for,
a female John Wick.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And then it starts a whole other series.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Mm hm Ballerina two from the World of Ballerina of
the World of John Wick. You know, like have this
like yeah, cascading naming.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
We're getting really good with titles and making them super
long and complex. All right, Well, we'll see how that
one does. For my next pick number six, I feel
torn here. It's one that I don't want to do,
but I feel like at this point I gotta take it.
I want to avoid superheroes in this draft, but I'm
not I'm not gonna end up doing it obviously. I'm
(21:16):
gonna take the fantastic four first steps with some steps
of trepidation on my part and some real uncertainty.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Are you the protectors of this world?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes we are.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Your planet is now marked for death.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's my fault. I stretch the bounce of space and
they are hurt. Marvel has obviously come down significantly, So
I think this one is you know, it's good for
a couple hundred million, even though a Fantastic four movie
has never worked.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I think that's what's gonna hurt it the most is
that it's got baggage. Yeah, you know, people are like, oh,
it's going to be so bad, but here's what it
has going forward. I mean, Pedro Pascal is on fire, dude.
Everything he touches as gold lately, so it could solely
be riding on his shoulders and do well because of him.
I always feel like there's gotta be a reason why
(22:21):
they keep making this movie, like the Fantastic Four. Is
there something special that's gonna happen in one of these.
It's gotta do something right. Eventually people are gonna love it.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I think fans of that comic or property really love it,
and that makes them think like other people will really
love it when everybody else is just kind of like
the one guy scratches the one guy's rock.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, I'm hopeful for you on this one. I think
it's the lesser of the two superhero movies over the summer, which.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Are both hitting in July. So it'll be interesting to
see who kind of comes out on which I would
think would be Superman, but just even curious for the
future of Marvel Eyes resting a lot on this movie.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Here's a question for the listeners. In a fight, who
would win Superman or the Fantastic Four, the whole team.
I'm not limiting you to any one of those superheroes.
Invisible Human Torch, the Rock Dude, and mister Fantastic You know,
he's got the like Stretchy. They get four, he gets one.
(23:29):
I think Superman would just rip him apart.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
This is the Superman problem. He's too strong.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, who knows. Maybe they make the Rock Dude out
of kryptonite shove him through Superman's chest. I don't know
who knows, right, but I like.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That that sounds better than either of these movies, you know. Yeah,
so it could be interesting the Fantastic for the one
thing that gives me hope is I watched trailer. I'm
kind of like nah, but I like the music and
I like at the end when they're like fantastic. Oh yeah,
that I'm into. So you know, maybe it'll be like
(24:04):
a Guardian's level surprise.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Well, as you know, trailers can be deceiving. Never never
has happened, all right, So I need a children's movie.
So I'm gonna go with Elio. Your life isn't up there, Elio,
you need to make friends. I'm glrdon back home.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I didn't fit in.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I thought Earth was the problem. But what if it's me? Well,
I like you, and you seem fine to me.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I never had a friend before.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Later up John Elio. For those who don't know, it's
a Disney movie coming out June twentieth. It follows an
eleven year old boy named Elo who accidentally becomes the
intergalactic ambassador of planet Earth. You know that's gonna do great? Yeah, yeah,
and go see it June twentieth in theaters near you.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I mean, what else can you say about Elio? Right?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I mean it looks cute. I don't know if i'd
watch it on my own, maybe with some kids, my
own kids. I mean, you know, like there's just some
arbitrary well that's kid.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You know, after driving a bus and being like get oh,
I'm going to see Ilio, Like who's this guy. Here's
the thing about Pixar. Their peak, you know, we're past it,
but even that they're lowest, their floor is still pretty high.
Few years ago, when I picked with a pretty high
pick in this draft, light Year, yeah, and that bombed,
(25:30):
and that's still made one hundred and eighteen million dollars.
And then I picked a few years ago Elemental lower
down in the draft, ended up making one hundred and
fifty million dollars. So that's kind of where Pixar's at.
This could surprise. I'd be surprised if it was like
below one hundred. If it does, it means the death
of Pixar.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Oh yeah, for sure. But here's the rational there is
that comes out June twentieth. There's really nothing like that
animated all the way through the July fourth weekend, So
I think it's got some legs to move as the
family movie for that good portion of like a month.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah. Well, I mean it's got Lelo and Stitch, which
I would say is probably that younger kid audience. But
you're at that point a few weeks removed.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, almost a month. But it's animated. Lelo and Stitch.
This live action. Everything in that movie is real. They
found a little critter guy from a different planet.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
You know what's funny is twenty years from now? Probably
not because we're on an expediated timeline, so it's probably
ten years from now live action Ilio. Uh yeah, I
can't wait for that. Well, on that note, on that
exact note, we come to my number eight pick, which
is how to Train Your Dragon. Wow, you've lost everything,
(26:47):
your father, your tribe, your best friend. What are you
gonna do about it? Probably something stupid. Well, you've already
done that live action remake. Word on the street it is.
This is a shot for shot, complete remake of the
animated movie, just in real. You know, we got real
special effects, real actor is that type thing. I think
(27:09):
it's gonna play pretty well. This is another one of
those movies you got kind of the people who grew
up with it are gonna like it. You know, it's
got dragons and stuff. So my kind of appeal to
an older audience, push it a little bit higher and
comes out a week before Elio might kind of crunch
on that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
How to Train Your Dragon that was twenty ten, that
did almost two hundred and eighteen million. Now How to
Train Your Dragon two did one hundred and seventy seven million,
So it's a good downward trajectory.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I don't think that that's gonna hurt this. I'm not
saying it's gonna keep doing that. I just think they're
missing the mark. You know, why are they always trying
to train other people's dragon?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Train your own dragon?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I don't know. Shot for shot. This is the thing
I hate about when they do shot for shot, like
when they do a live action, is that it ends
up being kind of stale. It's like, I already saw
this movie. Yeah, show me something new. What made that
movie special was that the dragon was cute. Toothless is cute.
But I don't know. It's like, I mean, I want
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to see something new, show me some new element to
the story. Maybe they do that.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I don't know, But well that's when when I first
saw the trailer, I'm like, oh, the dragon looks exactly
like the dragon looks in the animated movie. They've got
Gerard Butler in this movie. Who did the voice in
the animated movie. Yeah, Universal already greenlit a sequel, so
they must like it. Wow, So look forward to that
probably two summers.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Confidence. Man, they got confidence.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, they're going all in on dragons, all right.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So you've got now a couple good kids movies on
your I do.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, I'm loading up on children's fair.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I am going to go the opposite direction, Okay, I
think on this next pick, I'm going to choose something
a little scarier. I'm choosing twenty eight years later.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
He's ready to even think you leven I. Once you
walk onto that mainland, there's no rescue.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Warming up and down again.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You look at inns.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
So this one comes out June twentieth. It's the writer
and the director of the twenty eight days Later. This
is the third in the series. So this this rounds
out the trilogy because you got twenty eight days later,
twenty eight weeks later, twenty eight years later.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Love the naming convention on this.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, but this started the fast moving zombies, right.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, wasn't a thing before that. That's crazy, right.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, So I really like this as a scary movie.
It's gonna have a little bit of the pool of
the people who liked the first two in this series,
but it's also going to be something where people need
that in the summer, they need a little scary movie
to go to. So twenty eight years later, what do
you think of that.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I like this one, and I was actually hoping to
take this from you because I had a feeling you
wanted this one. So I was hoping to like scoop
it up and kind of hurt you a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You wanted to hurt me. Yeah, like the Indiana Jones pick.
Look how that turned out. Yeah, worked out great. I
don't know the box office potential of this. You know,
the first one was it was a surprise hit. You know,
this is back in two thousand and two. It made
like forty five million. That was like super good back then.
This is one of those examples like a lot of
time has elapsed. I think people are pretty interested in this.
(30:30):
The marketing this is kind of like almost like a
long leg scenario. The marketing for this has been really good.
They have some like good posters out and stuff. I
think could be like the horror movie of the summer.
I don't know what the you know, ceiling is on
zombie movies, Like how much can they make? How much
your audience is into it. But we know horror movies
can hit pretty well. So can it make a hundred?
Can can it hit one hundred and fifty?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I don't know. I'd like to see it. I like
to see it though.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, I'd love to see that do really well. We'll
it go that far? I don't know, We'll see.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
We shall see. So for my next pick, it's another
one that pains me because after Indiana Jones, I think
I told myself. I might even have said it on
the show. I was like, I'm not picking any more
movies with old men because nobody wants to see that shit.
Nobody's like, you know what I mean, that's not drawing
a big audience. It's just not happening. Well, here I
(31:22):
am again, I'm doing it. I feel like this movie
is the biggest wild card of the summer and I'm
gonna take a flyer on it here. I think it's
a good at the number ten pick. We said this
last year, you got to take some swings and hope
they pay off in some way. This is one of them.
I'm taking f one the movie. You plus Kim who
(31:42):
I got a team. When was the last time you
want to Race Sunday dayton. Oh, I'm sorry. One, Oh,
I'm sorry then, same as you. This is the Brad
Pitt movie from the direct of Top Gun Maverick. As
all the marketing will tell you, it's a racing movie
(32:04):
about an old race car driver getting back in the game.
We'll promise some fast racing action. This is gonna be
on Imax screens for a while, so that could give
it some give it a little bit of boost. It's
from Apple, but Warner Brothers is distributing it. I don't
know what this is gonna look like. I think it
could make money overseas. I don't know how much, you know,
(32:25):
beyond the dads? Is this just a dad movie? I
was trying to look for some comparisons. Ford versus Ferrari
came out a few years ago, made a one hundred
and twenty million dollars. Can this do that? Maybe? Can
it do Top Gun Maverick seven hundred million? I don't
think so, But what does I don't know where this
is gonna land. This could be a total this This
movie costs a lot of money too, so it's a
good chance this is actually no matter what, it makes
(32:47):
kind of a bomb.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I don't know. You know, like I will ask this
question to the listeners, to you either does it matter
when they tell you who made the movie? Do you
go see a movie because is the same director did
Top Gun Maverick. Or do you go see the movie
because it either looks good or it's got Brad Pitt
in it. That's what I wonder because when they pitch it,
(33:11):
you know, like, oh that from the director of Top
Gun Maverick. That's not really what audiences are thinking about now.
They're thinking about, like does this movie look good? I
think it does look good. To be honest, I think
this is I'm a little jealous. I like this movie
as a pick. I feel like Apple is due for
a hit. I feel like they're doing I feel like
(33:32):
this movie. They really put a lot into this. I
hope it's as good as they say it is, and
they think it is, you know, because they need it.
I think they really do need it.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, a lot of their movies have kind of fallen
flat theatrically. Anyway, I think they don't really care because they,
you know, the purpose is, let's put it on our
platform and get eyeballs there. But you're right, I like
what you pointed out. With the marketing, I mean, I
get the idea of we don't really care about the director,
we just want to put gun Maverick on the previous
and people think of that movie, that might be a
(34:04):
marketing misstep, even like trying to push that.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I don't think about it, even though like I read
it and I'm like, oh, okay, well you know that
was a good movie. So does that immediately make me
a shoe in for the movie. I don't know. All right,
So this is my last pick. Next to my last pick,
I should say, so I got one more after this.
I think I'm gonna go with a comedy angle and
I'm gonna go the naked gun.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Hey, little girl, stop, what do you want? Little one?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You're ass?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Frank Dreben? Please squad.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
The new version.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
For those who don't know this, this comes out August first.
It's a reboot or a remake of the eighties nineties
Joke a minute film series. The original had Leslie, this
time with Liam Neisson as the role. He plays Frank
Drabbin Junior.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Oh, I didn't realize he's his son.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, he's like the son of I think this will
be fun to see how Liam Neeson takes his comedy
chops and plays out with something that's like way absurd.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, this is a great pick. My fear is only
me and you think this is a great pick. I
took the Jennifer Lawrence movie a few years ago. I
forget the name of it, what that comedy was, and
it made like fifty million, which is pretty good. But
that's like the only comedy that's been released in the
summer in like the past three years, like straight up comedy,
(35:45):
And I'm like, is that as far as it can get?
Do people care about the Naked Gun? Even though I
think this movie looks funny as hell.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You're right, you're gonna get the people who remember the
original Naking Gun and they're just going for the nostalgia
and laugh, and then you're gonna get the newcomers. I
think you're gonna get the people who are like the
eighteen year olds, the seventeen eighteen year olds. I think
the young audience will love it, I hope. So it's
just absurdity. If you have a short attention span, I
(36:15):
think this movie's for you because you can literally get
the joke. You don't need to You don't need to
have this really long, drawn out sequence to get the punchline.
It's like boom boom boom, boom boom. And I think
that'll I think that'll appeal to them. I really do.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I hope so, but I agree with you make a
good point. You know, it's joke am inute stuff. The
original Naked Gun made seventy eight million dollars. I saw
in the theater when I was nine years old, and
I thought it was the funniest movie I've ever seen
in my life. Yeah, so I hope this one does
the same exact.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
The opening scene in the trailer, if any of the
movie is as funny as that scene where the little
girl the lollipop goes into the bank and it ends
up being Frank Drevin. Yeah, and he pulls off the costume.
I mean, come on, you can't get any better than that.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Nissan was a good choice for that too.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, totally unexpected, right, Like I would never expect him
to be in that role.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, but it makes sense when you see it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Oh yeah, all right, So from.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
That, you know, I'm going with something a little more
family friendly, and this is, you know, a sequel, another
animated straight up animated no people in this one. I'm
going with the Bad Guys too. When it came to
being bad, we were pretty good. Who am I kidding?
(37:37):
We're the best. The name's kidding. We're students of your
work Big Crime Nurse.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
So you're like the bad girl.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And you're like a mango with teeth. What a sequel
to the Bad Guys movie, which is based on some
kids books. The first one was alright, but it was
a moderate hit with one hundred million dollars. So the
main reason I'm going with this what I like it
is actually comes out the same day as The Naked Gun.
Feel like it's got a great runway August. First, there's
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not a lot in August, so it is full runway
the whole month. You got basically in that month, just
a handful of movies and they have, you know, four
weeks to just kind of get whatever's left of the
summer before kids go back to school and everybody's like
it's it's over. So I think this movie can do
pretty well in that timeframe. Yeah, I thought you were
going to say the Smurfs movie for a second, that
(38:29):
was a little lower on my list. It's kind of
like when I took Garfield last year and you like
torched me.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, I just I couldn't see it. I couldn't see
I couldn't see the genius in your page.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, you know, which did okay, But we agreed my
family when we saw it. The worst movie we saw
last summer Garfield.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I mean, you know, Smurfs from twenty eleven did one
hundred and forty two million, but then Smurfs two a
couple of years later in twenty thirteen to only did
seventy one million.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
So big drop.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Eh, yeah, big drop because nobody cares about the Smurfs.
Let's just be honest, nobody. Nobody cares about the Smurfs.
Needless to say, that is not my last pick. Sure,
I am gonna go with So there's a laundry list
for our listeners. There's a laundry list of indie options.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, you have a bonus option with your last pick.
You can take an indie movie, as we mentioned, and
if you do, you get a three times that gross
added on as a bonus.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah. So I'm gonna take a little inspiration from Shad's
pick last year with Long Legs, because that did pretty
well with the bonus. But I'm gonna take a movie
from this list, and it's long. I'm not gonna bore
you with all the choices, but there's a movie called
The Materialists.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Hey are you single? I'm a matchmaker? Give me a
call if you want to meet somebody. If the girl
asks for us, haul drink of water, hast fine a
salary over five hundred grand, always missed you?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Deliver is a match Maker, comes out June thirteenth from
a twenty four films. If you're a film buff, you
know them, you know the studio. But it's got Dakota Johnson,
who hasn't had a great track record with movies like
she was in that Madam Web Big Bomb. But it
does have one of our fan favorites that we just
(40:24):
talked about in your movie, Pedro Pascal l right hot,
right now. Like I said, everything he touches turns to gold.
So I think that end HiT's got Chris Evans. It's
a romantic comedy.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
We don't get a lot of those.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
No, we don't, and I need one of those on
my list. Yeah, so I don't need one, but this
is this is what I'm thinking. So it rounds out
the nice variety that I've got and hopefully I'll get
some bucks from the indie Equalizer.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Oh let me just say this about this pick, you
son of a bitch. This was my plan to surprise
you and take this with the last pick. I really
like I'm like an A twenty four rom com with
these stars in it. This could really be a surprise
something that you know, makes I don't know, thirty forty
(41:10):
maybe fifty something like that million, and then you know,
you get that bonus on top of that. This has
got some real potential here, and it's coming from a
filmmaker who just made this movie Past Lives, which was
like kind of an indie sensation. So there's a lot
going for this movie that I think has some potential
as long as it like catches on with people. This
(41:32):
kind of has the stars and the the A twenty
four backing to do it. So I don't really even
have a lot of smack to talk on that pick,
because that's a good one. That was gonna be what
I was gonna go for with my last pick. You
scooped it out from under me.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
You could tell me that now because that was my
last pick.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, you can't take anything from me with it.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
But yeah, here's the thing too, is like Pedro Pascal
and Chris Evans, they're sort of loved especially so women
love them, you know, as a romantic. I think that
plays to their benefit. Like I said, Dakota Johnson's had
a little rough go at it lately, but I like her. Yeah,
if the chemistry is right, I think it'll be okay. Yeah,
(42:10):
you know what I mean. Like, that's the thing with
a rom com is you got to have good chemistry.
So hopefully that's working. But from the trailer, it looks
really good.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, that's a great choice, and I think you're gonna
get some some good bonus green with that one.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
So now that I stole that from you, what happens?
What happens to your list? What's your final pick? Shadow?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Well, this is why this year is different than years past.
There feels like there's an abundance of movies, Like I
feel like I'm left with a lot of choices, where
in years past, I feel like I'm scraping at this
point the bottom of the barrel. Yeah, so I'll tell
you what I'm looking at. There's just one movie I
just can't resist. I don't know if it's gonna flail
or it's gonna you know, upgrade on the original. And
(42:50):
that's Muthriagan two point zero missus Forrester. We have a problem.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
We're hunting an autonomous and named Amelia.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
She was built using your design for Megan.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I know how to start a Milia.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Put me and a body, and I'll help you stop her.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
You remember you hate when they do this in the name,
and you're choosing a movie that does It's.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Well, this one's interesting because it has a three and
a two, which is just super confusing. Yeah. I don't
like numbers used as letters. Everybody knows that. But I
liked the first Megan movie. It was really well marketed.
It was a surprise hit ended up earning ninety five
million dollars. There's a chance this one could upgrade. I
(43:37):
don't know if it will. Looks kind of kind of cheesy.
It kind of goes T two with Megan. If you
watch the trailer, which is a take, I feel like
there is you talk about meme ability, there's some recognition
with Megan. I think people think this is kind of
fun and enjoyable. So I think people could roll back
out for this one and it could be that kind
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of horror comedy that kind of crosses over and takes
the original even a little farther.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
I think you're giving it a lot, a lot of credit.
There's no doubt it's gonna make money because the first
one did ninety five. I mean, people seem to like
talk about the first one like it had it's like chucky. Yeah,
you know what I mean. Will it make money? Probably?
Should it make money?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Not really, But at least they didn't just remake Child's
Play here, Yeah, they like re envisioned Child's Play.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
No, I agree with that. I will agree also with
something you said. This year, we've had some real options
where you know, we could have even done more than
seven picks if we really wanted to. But yeah, I
think it's really good year for that.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of these movies
even we picked towards the end, that I'm like, oh,
that could do one hundred million, that could do one
hundred million, that could do one hundred million, Whereas you know,
the past years were like, oh, let me grab something
that can maybe make fifty million dollars, twenty million dollars,
you know, something like that or Horizon an American Saga
Part one. So that's the draft. Well, each have our pick.
(45:10):
Let's do a little recap here by team. So I
have Leelo and Stitch, Jurassic World Rebirth, Fantastic Four First Steps,
How to Train Your Dragon F one, The Bad Guys Too,
and Mathriegan two point zero.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
I have Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning Superman from the
World of John Wick, Ballerina Ilioh twenty eight years Later,
The Naked Gun, and just Materialists, not the Materialists.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
It's cleaner that way. So wrapping up here today, Patrick,
how do you feel about your team, your chances of winning?
How's it look to you? You feel good? Did you
get what you wanted?
Speaker 3 (45:54):
I do feel pretty good. I liked F one. I'm
really interested to see what that does. I also would
have liked to lead alone Stitch. I think that was
a good pick for you, So we'll see how that does.
I mean, I think it's gonna go gangbusters, you know.
But I'm pretty pretty happy with my draft. What about you?
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah, I think I look solid. I feel like my
team is strong. A lot of these movies feel so variable,
and this is what kind of made drafting hard. I
feel like there's a large clump. Yeah, like Superman Jurassic
World F one twenty eight years later. I don't know
where these how much these movies are gonna make, or
where they're gonna do. I'm like, got an idea, but
(46:31):
I have no idea how that's going to turn out.
I felt like in years past it seemed like here's
the big three at the top, and then there's like
Tier two, tier three. This felt like kind of like
there's a big ball at the top and the you know,
big ball in the middle, and that was it. So
we'll find out. I love seeing the naked gun on there.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah, it makes me happy, it does. So, all right,
we feel good about our teams. Now we have to
do our Wick Award predictions, also known as our pre wictions.
That's right, Oh that was a good one. All right.
So the total amount of money we predict our teams
will earn be four bonuses. If you go over, you
(47:12):
or disqualified from the bonus even if you're closer. So
this makes it tougher, that's the tricky part.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, okay, I think I'm ready, you ready, all right,
I'm going with one point four billion.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Okay, so one billion, four hundred million.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah, one billion, four hundred million.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
All right, set in Stone.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Set in Stone can't change it now, I know, I
immediately want to change it. As soon as I said it,
I wanted to change it.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
What about you, I'm going to do one billion, forty
five million.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
One billion, forty five million. Yeah, so one point zero
four five billion.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Yeah, I'm getting real specific there.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
I thought you were going to go one dollar. I
guess the second person can do that. Huh you could?
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, prices right, rules, I will say, I don't think
you're over because of Lelo and Stitch.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I'm counting on it being the number one movie of
the summer. I thought it would be bigger than all
the rest. I'm counting on it hitting at least four hundred.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
You don't think Karate Kid Legends was.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Gonna be the biggest movie of the summer. It was
on my radar and I'm like, I don't know, I
just didn't get there's something about it. I just don't
have a good feeling about. But on the flip side
of that, to end the show, we always do this,
what's the one summer movie you're most excited for? What's
the one you're like I'm gonna definitely see that.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
You might think it'd be Nobody too well, I know
how you like Nobody won I did, but I think
it might be you know, I've said this a million
times twenty eight years later, but I I'm also kind
of want to just see the end of the Mission
Impossible series. I don't want to see where they take it,
you know what I mean, Like, what happens? Does he die?
Like in James Bond? Yeah, you know, I hope not.
(48:54):
Come on, it's a feel good action movie, like I
want to see Everybody Live.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I'm with you on those two movies, though those are
probably on the top of my list, the same ones
twenty eight years later, I think I'm most intrigued by
just to see what they're gonna do with it. You know,
you got kind of the same team back, same writer,
same director, So I'm curious to see that. To throw
another one in the mix, though, Weapons, coming out August
eighth from Warner Brothers is from the director of.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Barbarian Mmmm okay yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Summary on that is an interrelated multi story horror epic
about the disappearance of high school students in a small town.
So no idea, you know, it sounds kind of mysterious
what this is about. But just knowing the kind of
creativity of how Barbarian was put together, I'm curious where
this one goes. And it's a Warner Brothers release, so
this isn't even like a smaller like a twenty four
(49:45):
Neon type thing. So pretty interested to see what that
one has in store for us.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Yeah, we always talk about this. News stories always great. Yeah,
we're always wishing for more stories, for more original stuff.
So you know, I can never discredit them for trying.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, so those are some ones. Maybe we'll check out.
That's the draft. We've done it again, it's on paper.
Now comes the fun part when we see, you know,
these movies slowly trickle into theaters. We start to get
some numbers, we keep track of things. There's some crying,
some devastation, this slamming into tables, some why why why?
(50:25):
And then you know we have the end where we
kind of tally the results.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
I will say this year has been fun because I
see a renewed spirit, a renewed shad.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
I'm alive again.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, you're excited. I could see the hope and the
twinkle in your eye that this is going to be
the year everything that you know happened last year is
going to do it again. I'm baby, I gotta tell
you that could all come crumbling down pretty fast. I
know from experience.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
It didn't seem fast when you were on top for
like five years.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah yeah, let me ask you this question. If I
come back and win this this year, how are you
going to feel?
Speaker 2 (51:02):
I'll be okay for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
I have a nice pushing from that win, like I'm
at least back in it. It was more just the
year after year after year of crushing defeat that got
to me after a while.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Well, I know the listeners were getting tired of it.
So we you know, we mix things up. You know,
we mixed it up. So yeah, tune in for our
follow up episode in September when we crunch the numbers
and add up our bonuses and then we're you know,
going to find out whose team Emergence emerges victorious in
(51:36):
the Summer Draft. We'll also have links in the show
notes to the past episodes if you want to go
back and listen to those and hear us win and lose.
We got the Awards episodes after that, so you can
always listen to the back catalog of those things if
you like pretty fun. Yeah, yeah, And you know there's
some lists out there. There's we've got a bunch of resources.
(51:58):
We're also going to do a new landing page for
the summer movie draft that'll have other information, like it's
going to have all of the episodes, but then it's
going to have some of the movie.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Trailers and stuff that we did. So a lot of
good stuff, and we'll try to keep you updated, you know,
provide little updates throughout the summer on some of the
moment episodes. As we go through this, we keep track
of things, give you updates on how the movies are doing,
what's happening with us, how we're feeling.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
All right. Well, that's it for this episode of Movies
and Marketing. Until next time. Let's fade to black. I'll
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
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Speaker 1 (01:05):
The summer's biggest box office hits.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, well, Patrick, this is it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We have arrived here again. Essentially, this is the purpose,
not just of this podcast, but some would say, of
our lives, our reason for being. The Summer movie draft
an annual tradition dating all the way back to twenty sixteen.
Oh next year, ten year anniversary.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh my god, I know we're so old. And by us,
I mean the podcast, the podcast, of course. Yeah, not us,
not us, We're still young in spry. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So those who have you been following the summer movie Draft,
which is most people because it's very exciting. The series
currently stands at three to five. That is me, I
have three wins. You have five wins, which is slightly more.
Something amazing happened last year that hadn't happened in a
(02:09):
long long time. I actually won this draft. You see
three five, You're like, that's you know, that's not too bad.
That seems pretty close. It has not been close for
a long long time. The last time I had won
this was twenty eighteen. So it was a big event
for me. Some would say a life changing event. I've
(02:30):
been walking on air pretty much since then. But hits
like Deadpool and Wolverine, Twisters and Long Legs, the surprise
hit of the summer that I called in the draft
propelled me to this momentous victory, changing the course of history.
Some would even say.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, changed the course of your history.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, I'm not dead in the ditch. No.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, you were pretty somber prior to last year.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I was spiraling.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeh.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
After some of those losses.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You thought there was no way back, there was no redemption.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, it was getting it was getting dark.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You started wearing black eyeliner. He went full emo.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah. I was listening to the Cure a lot. Yeah,
and now there's optimism, there's hope. The question is can
I keep it up? Can I do it again?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah? You're looking for a repeat, because if you can repeat,
you're getting dangerously close to tying up the standings so far.
And I gotta be honest with you, it's always possible.
Like we've talked about, give it enough time.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
The trajectory is going to change.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah. Whoever's on the throne, it has to be dethroned
at some point.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, you can't stay on top forever.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah. Well, I don't know. We'll see, we'll see. I
know that people are rooting for the underdog Shads, so
they're rooting for you. Yeah, and I'm rooting for you too,
you know, I mean, I really am. I'm thinking if
Shad can pull this off, then maybe maybe there's hope.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
There's a chance for all of us.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
There's a chance for all of us.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well, let's find out what's going to happen. The summer
movie season kicks off now with the draft today. Let's
get into it. After we go through the rules very quickly.
For those who haven't listened before, and maybe they don't
know some of the rules or how this game is played. Patrick,
give us the quick lowdown here. Yeah, if you listen
(04:25):
to this every year, sorry, you know, but there are
some new things that little tweaks that we've made over
the years, so it's a little fresh. Yeah, keeps the
game interesting mm hm.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So everyone always loves to know this. We each draft
seven movies. The team whose movies have the highest combined
domestic box office total at the end of the summer wins,
domestic being United States. For our overseas listeners, we don't
count global box office, but we do have a few
specific rules. The main rule is finding the summer movie season.
(05:01):
This is where we differ sometimes from lists online and
all that stuff. That is, any movie released in the
US in the theaters from Memorial Day weekend through Labor
Day weekend, so we always count those two holidays. This year,
Memorial Day is May twenty third, September first is Labor Day,
(05:22):
and then the other caveat to that is only theatrical releases,
so we don't count streaming. We can't verify the numbers
at least yet. Maybe one day they'll do something where
we can, but until then only theatrical releases.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So a big one we have. And this is the
real wrinkle that kind of can change or make this
more strategic than just simply draft it, you know, going
through and drafting. The winner gets to choose between taking
the first pick and the fourth pick or getting picks
two to three consecutively. So as last year's winner, I
(05:57):
get to make this choice. Not an easy pick, as
you know, Patrick, you really got to think this through
and look at the list of movies and figure out
how you want to approach this.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, it's a lot of strategy in that one choice
that the winner has to make. Last year, I made
a choice and maybe that was the determining factor. I
don't know, But you do have an upper hand when
you get to choose two and three because potentially those
are the two best movies next to each other, sometimes
maybe even better than the first pick that the winner chose,
(06:30):
you know.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, we also have some other bonuses. We'll kind of
run through these real quick, Patrick, Do you just want
to kind of give an overview of some of these.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, as a preface, we have four bonuses. Okay, first
one raiders rewards. It's rewards the movie with the best
legs making the most money beyond its opening weekend. So
we name this after Raiders the Lost Arc from nineteen
eighty one, which the Numbers reports is the legis movie
(07:01):
of all time, opening with eight million and ultimately earning
two hundred and twenty five million. So that was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, played for a long time at theaters.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah. Then we have the Wick Award. That's each team
will guess, so Shad will guess, I will guess their
total box office before bonuses during the draft, So we
guess this, and then the team that comes closest to
hitting the target without going over gets a bonus. And
this is obviously named for John Wick, who can seemingly
(07:32):
fire a gun blindly and hit his target or man
or woman Yeah, could be anybody. Yeah, non discriminate. Then
we have the Indie Equalizer, so with each person's final pick,
we have the option of selecting from a list of
films released by independent studios. So if you choose one
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of these movies, you'll be awarded the gross of the
movie plus a bonus of three times the growth of
the movie, with the bonus capped at one hundred million, so.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You can get a good bonus off that it's kind
of to you know, level the playing field so the
indie movies can get in there.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, and this was named for the Equalizer because this
bonus evens the playing field for indie movies, even though
the Equalizer wasn't really an indie movie.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No, but you know, the Equalizer equalized.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Then the most fun and weird and crazy bonus that
we have the option of is trade back to the future.
So this one we installed last year, right, Yeah, that
was the first year. So at the end of the
summer when we tlly the results, each team could choose
(08:44):
to use this one option with one of their picks.
So you trade back in time for a movie that
finished in the domestic rankings the same number as the
pick that you're choosing to replace, so number one through fourteen.
The twist is the year will be picked randomly from
the years nineteen eighty five to twenty twenty four by
(09:05):
spinning a wheel. This is where it gets crazy because
you just it's just random. It's I mean, it's roulette.
Some years could give you a great result, while other years,
you know, you're left wishing you would have kept your
original pick.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, you might get an upgrade, you might get a downgrade.
This is a real wild card.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Oh yeah. I mean in a year where you're real
close and you have nothing to lose because you're under
this could give you the upper hand.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, could be the difference maker. And what is this
one name for? In case people don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Oh, come on, the greatest time travel movie of all time.
But it transports a movie from another year into the draft.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So you know, and we said it last year, there's
gonna be a year where the champion is decided by
this bonus the trade back to the future. Well, yeah,
I believe this could be that year. Just how kind
of tightly packed the movies are. It seems like this
is just my interpretation. I look at them, and I
see a lot of movies that I'm like, Ah, they
(10:07):
all seem like they could kind of do the same.
I don't know, if there's like a big runaway gonna
be a huge runaway hit. You don't know. Ah, that's
just me looking at the movies now. But this could
end up being that year.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah. And then you know, this isn't really a rule,
it's an unsaid rule, but smack talking is encouraged during
this draft. You know, it's just like any sporting event, you.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Gotta play the game.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Mm hmm. Yeah. All right, now that you know all
of the rules and you're probably head is spinning because
it's craziness. It's just insanity. Let's get to the draft.
Let's start drafting our movies.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, let's pick the movie. So we have a list,
you know, of the summer movies, the big summer movies
coming out. We're kind of using that. We're going to
go through as we know, as we discussed, the winner
from last year gets to pick whether they go first
or takes picks two and three reconsecutively. I'm now gonna
make that decision. And that decision is I'm gonna take
(11:06):
the first pick in the draft.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Oh you have confidence?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well, you know what it is. It's a I look
at these movies and I kind of fell on one
movie that I think is gonna be the biggest hit.
I think this one kind of stands out. I'm taking
a play from you Patrick, the first movie out of
the gates, getting that Memorial Day weekend, making some of
that you know, money, and then we kind of take
(11:31):
off in June, make a bunch of money. I think
This one's gonna be the number one movie this summer,
and that's Lee Low and Stitch. I'm corstraight French. No
dogs on the table, Yeah, Rough, I'm going to give
(11:54):
you to the calf three Stitch. It's gonna hit that
family audience, gonna hit that Memorial Day weekend, start the
summer off strong. I don't think it's gonna do like
Inside Out did last year. Could hit like four hundred
(12:15):
million or something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I think this is a beloved classic, and I think
it's gonna do really well. And I think live action
version is gonna do really well. I'm a little jelly.
I think this would have been on my list for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Would that have been your number one? I guess you
don't have to tell me because that gives away where
you're going.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Now, Yeah, I can't. I don't know if I could
tell you that. I don't know if I could tell
you that. But I have two and three. So I
am going to go with Mission Impossible.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Your team is going to betrayed.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Eth, everything you are, everything you've done, just.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Come to this. That would be in case anybody doesn't know,
that's Mission Colon Impossible, Dash the Final Reckoning. I think
that's how they're playing it out there with the title.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, which they got rid of the you know, the
other one was Dead Reckoning Part one. People didn't like
that this is no longer like part two, and they
just went with Dead Reckoning Final Reckoning.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, they improved their naming structure for that. I don't
know if it's really an improvement though, but you know,
so that's May twenty third that hits at the same
time as your Lee.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Low, another big Memorial Day weekend. I love the pick.
I want to see the movie. I think you might
have jumped the gun on this one. Dead Reckoning ended
up with one hundred and seventy three million. Now, granted
that came out at the same time as the Barbenheimer
Yeah phenomenon, which kind of Oppenheimer knocked it off all
the IMAX screens and everything. But might be a little early.
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Can Tom get that high? Can he be the number
two movie of the summer?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It might be hard because Lee Lo and Stitch, But
I think those are two different audiences and I think
it's like, right now people are craving that, and you know,
coming into Memorial Day that's gonna be a big one.
So I think it's gonna do close to, if not
roughly the same. And you know, good old Tom he
has a tendency to drive home the box office numbers
(14:23):
for us.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, I think the Memorial Day release will bump it
up to as opposed to they usually come out like
July or something like that. So what's your number three?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
So my number three, I think I'm gonna go ahead
and take I'm gonna take Superman.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Day. We home.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We got James Gunn at the Helm. You know. A
part of me is like, I don't know, DC movies
just generally have a hard time, but they're making a
big push because he's now taking over this DC world.
It's got a dog, it's got a dog. He's changing
it up. Some people say, you know, he's using his
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Guardians of the Galaxy magic, so maybe he'll have some
of that. Another part of it is a lot of
it's shot in Cleveland, so that's very true, you know, hometown,
little hometown, love over here. So I'm I'm hopeful that
that will do some money. And it's Superman so for
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the summer, because it comes out July eleventh, it's like
got that July fourth kind of feel to it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
This is the movie could be the biggest movie the summer,
you think, so could kind of bomb? Would I don't
want to say bomb, Like, it's not gonna make money,
but it's not gonna make as much money as they
think it's gonna make in that sense, right, they're relying
on this to be like Bumping up DC. I don't
know if it's gonna get there, just based on like
Superman versus Batman made three hundred thirty, which is a
(16:00):
good size hit. I don't know if this is gonna
get there. So I'm glad you took it here because
I if it came to the fourth spot, I was
gonna feel like I had to take it, and I
would be really nervous about taking it because that's kind
of the way I feel about it. Yeah, but it
has such a potential upside you almost have to.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I did like the Man of Steel Henry Cavill was awesome.
Will this compare? I don't know that movie two hundred
and ninety million Man of Steel. Can this Superman do
the same? That's probably where.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I put it at.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, maybe maybe?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
All right? Moving on from superheroes that we've seen repeatedly
before to something else we've seen repeatedly before, which is
my number four pick dinosaurs of Jurassic World.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
If no one's dumb enough to go where we're going.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's right. I'm taking Jurassic World colin Rebirth. We had
the original movies, then we had the Jurassic World trilogy movies.
Now we have Jurassic World again, but Reborn. The one
thing you could say is these movies tend to make money.
(17:14):
So that's what I'm taking it. All of the ones
in the previous series. We know, Jurassic World was there
when that first came out was massive, but all of
the ones in that trilogy made over three hundred million.
I don't know if this will do that, but it'll
probably come close. It seems to me like a pretty
safe bit.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I don't know, man, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You think they're dead, you think they're extinct.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I think you're gonna get dinosaur people, people who love
dinosaur movies. I think you're gonna get them.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Oh not, damn, those are the worst people.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
You're gonna get. The Scarlet Johansson fans. Yeah, for sure.
I think people are sort of over this franchise. We
had that resurgence like the first one that came out
in the World series. You know, there was decades yeah
before that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That gap, that gap is very important because it builds
up in anticipation.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Right, and there's a there's like, you know, this nostalgic
love that happens just like the Force awakens. Yeah, right,
this though, you know, when they start pomping them out
every year to two years, it's like, come on, it's
really essentially what happened to superhero movies is like every
three months we were getting a superhero movie and then
it just.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You know, I can't disagree with you. I think I
think though even at its worst, this one will still
you know, at least make a couple hundred millions of dollars.
But you're right. The fact that we're being reborn after
the last movie just came out in twenty twenty two,
it's a little it's a little absurd. What do you
got next?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You know who hasn't let me down? John Wick? John
Wick hasn't let me down.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That means I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Gonna choose from the world of John Wick Colon Ballerina.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
You're him, it's the one they called them, Baba Yaga.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
How do I start doing what you do looks like
you already have.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
This comes out June sixth, pretty soon, Scott on a
date on mos lovely as we like to say, because
we don't know how to pronounce your name. I should,
but I don't. And a little cameo seems like from Keanu.
So people are gonna go They're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Like, oh, how how much is he gonna be in there?
That's that's almost the big question.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, And I think that's why it's got some pull
at the box office. I think people are gonna be
just curious, you know, because he died in the last one, supposedly,
so people want to get their john wickfix. Oh john
wickfix dot com. We're gonna we're gonna get that on
on the books.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I agree, people want their john wickfix. Grab that url.
I don't know about this one though, from the world up.
I mean, they obviously went out of their way to
get John Wick up in the title.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
They needed the john Wick name to make this movie,
and I think that that's a clever way of riding
on the coattails or pulling from the same audience, you
know what I mean. So even if it gets a fraction,
maybe it doesn't go as high as the last John Wick,
because like, if we look at previous John Wicks, Chapter
four got one to eighty seven, those movies kept building. Yeah,
(20:22):
you know, so maybe it doesn't get that high. If
even if it's somewhere close to that, I'd be happy
with it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I mean, if it cracks one hundred, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah. I think it's going to do one fifty. You're
thinking one fifty, Yeah, but who knows. Maybe people will
be like, man, this is what we've been waiting for,
a female John Wick.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And then it starts a whole other series.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Mm hm Ballerina two from the World of Ballerina of
the World of John Wick. You know, like have this
like yeah, cascading naming.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
We're getting really good with titles and making them super
long and complex. All right, Well, we'll see how that
one does. For my next pick number six, I feel
torn here. It's one that I don't want to do,
but I feel like at this point I gotta take it.
I want to avoid superheroes in this draft, but I'm
not I'm not gonna end up doing it obviously. I'm
(21:16):
gonna take the fantastic four first steps with some steps
of trepidation on my part and some real uncertainty.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Are you the protectors of this world?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes we are.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Your planet is now marked for death.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's my fault. I stretch the bounce of space and
they are hurt. Marvel has obviously come down significantly, So
I think this one is you know, it's good for
a couple hundred million, even though a Fantastic four movie
has never worked.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I think that's what's gonna hurt it the most is
that it's got baggage. Yeah, you know, people are like, oh,
it's going to be so bad, but here's what it
has going forward. I mean, Pedro Pascal is on fire, dude.
Everything he touches as gold lately, so it could solely
be riding on his shoulders and do well because of him.
I always feel like there's gotta be a reason why
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they keep making this movie, like the Fantastic Four. Is
there something special that's gonna happen in one of these.
It's gotta do something right. Eventually people are gonna love it.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I think fans of that comic or property really love it,
and that makes them think like other people will really
love it when everybody else is just kind of like
the one guy scratches the one guy's rock.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, I'm hopeful for you on this one. I think
it's the lesser of the two superhero movies over the summer, which.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Are both hitting in July. So it'll be interesting to
see who kind of comes out on which I would
think would be Superman, but just even curious for the
future of Marvel Eyes resting a lot on this movie.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Here's a question for the listeners. In a fight, who
would win Superman or the Fantastic Four, the whole team.
I'm not limiting you to any one of those superheroes.
Invisible Human Torch, the Rock Dude, and mister Fantastic You know,
he's got the like Stretchy. They get four, he gets one.
(23:29):
I think Superman would just rip him apart.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
This is the Superman problem. He's too strong.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, who knows. Maybe they make the Rock Dude out
of kryptonite shove him through Superman's chest. I don't know
who knows, right, but I like.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That that sounds better than either of these movies, you know. Yeah,
so it could be interesting the Fantastic for the one
thing that gives me hope is I watched trailer. I'm
kind of like nah, but I like the music and
I like at the end when they're like fantastic. Oh yeah,
that I'm into. So you know, maybe it'll be like
(24:04):
a Guardian's level surprise.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Well, as you know, trailers can be deceiving. Never never
has happened, all right, So I need a children's movie.
So I'm gonna go with Elio. Your life isn't up there, Elio,
you need to make friends. I'm glrdon back home.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I didn't fit in.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I thought Earth was the problem. But what if it's me? Well,
I like you, and you seem fine to me.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I never had a friend before.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Later up John Elio. For those who don't know, it's
a Disney movie coming out June twentieth. It follows an
eleven year old boy named Elo who accidentally becomes the
intergalactic ambassador of planet Earth. You know that's gonna do great? Yeah, yeah,
and go see it June twentieth in theaters near you.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I mean, what else can you say about Elio? Right?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I mean it looks cute. I don't know if i'd
watch it on my own, maybe with some kids, my
own kids. I mean, you know, like there's just some
arbitrary well that's kid.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You know, after driving a bus and being like get oh,
I'm going to see Ilio, Like who's this guy. Here's
the thing about Pixar. Their peak, you know, we're past it,
but even that they're lowest, their floor is still pretty high.
Few years ago, when I picked with a pretty high
pick in this draft, light Year, yeah, and that bombed,
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and that's still made one hundred and eighteen million dollars.
And then I picked a few years ago Elemental lower
down in the draft, ended up making one hundred and
fifty million dollars. So that's kind of where Pixar's at.
This could surprise. I'd be surprised if it was like
below one hundred. If it does, it means the death
of Pixar.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Oh yeah, for sure. But here's the rational there is
that comes out June twentieth. There's really nothing like that
animated all the way through the July fourth weekend, So
I think it's got some legs to move as the
family movie for that good portion of like a month.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah. Well, I mean it's got Lelo and Stitch, which
I would say is probably that younger kid audience. But
you're at that point a few weeks removed.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, almost a month. But it's animated. Lelo and Stitch.
This live action. Everything in that movie is real. They
found a little critter guy from a different planet.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
You know what's funny is twenty years from now? Probably
not because we're on an expediated timeline, so it's probably
ten years from now live action Ilio. Uh yeah, I
can't wait for that. Well, on that note, on that
exact note, we come to my number eight pick, which
is how to Train Your Dragon. Wow, you've lost everything,
(26:47):
your father, your tribe, your best friend. What are you
gonna do about it? Probably something stupid. Well, you've already
done that live action remake. Word on the street it is.
This is a shot for shot, complete remake of the
animated movie, just in real. You know, we got real
special effects, real actor is that type thing. I think
(27:09):
it's gonna play pretty well. This is another one of
those movies you got kind of the people who grew
up with it are gonna like it. You know, it's
got dragons and stuff. So my kind of appeal to
an older audience, push it a little bit higher and
comes out a week before Elio might kind of crunch
on that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
How to Train Your Dragon that was twenty ten, that
did almost two hundred and eighteen million. Now How to
Train Your Dragon two did one hundred and seventy seven million,
So it's a good downward trajectory.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I don't think that that's gonna hurt this. I'm not
saying it's gonna keep doing that. I just think they're
missing the mark. You know, why are they always trying
to train other people's dragon?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Train your own dragon?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I don't know. Shot for shot. This is the thing
I hate about when they do shot for shot, like
when they do a live action, is that it ends
up being kind of stale. It's like, I already saw
this movie. Yeah, show me something new. What made that
movie special was that the dragon was cute. Toothless is cute.
But I don't know. It's like, I mean, I want
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to see something new, show me some new element to
the story. Maybe they do that.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I don't know, But well that's when when I first
saw the trailer, I'm like, oh, the dragon looks exactly
like the dragon looks in the animated movie. They've got
Gerard Butler in this movie. Who did the voice in
the animated movie. Yeah, Universal already greenlit a sequel, so
they must like it. Wow, So look forward to that
probably two summers.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Confidence. Man, they got confidence.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, they're going all in on dragons, all right.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So you've got now a couple good kids movies on
your I do.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, I'm loading up on children's fair.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I am going to go the opposite direction, Okay, I
think on this next pick, I'm going to choose something
a little scarier. I'm choosing twenty eight years later.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
He's ready to even think you leven I. Once you
walk onto that mainland, there's no rescue.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Warming up and down again.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You look at inns.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
So this one comes out June twentieth. It's the writer
and the director of the twenty eight days Later. This
is the third in the series. So this this rounds
out the trilogy because you got twenty eight days later,
twenty eight weeks later, twenty eight years later.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Love the naming convention on this.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, but this started the fast moving zombies, right.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, wasn't a thing before that. That's crazy, right.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, So I really like this as a scary movie.
It's gonna have a little bit of the pool of
the people who liked the first two in this series,
but it's also going to be something where people need
that in the summer, they need a little scary movie
to go to. So twenty eight years later, what do
you think of that.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I like this one, and I was actually hoping to
take this from you because I had a feeling you
wanted this one. So I was hoping to like scoop
it up and kind of hurt you a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You wanted to hurt me. Yeah, like the Indiana Jones pick.
Look how that turned out. Yeah, worked out great. I
don't know the box office potential of this. You know,
the first one was it was a surprise hit. You know,
this is back in two thousand and two. It made
like forty five million. That was like super good back then.
This is one of those examples like a lot of
time has elapsed. I think people are pretty interested in this.
(30:30):
The marketing this is kind of like almost like a
long leg scenario. The marketing for this has been really good.
They have some like good posters out and stuff. I
think could be like the horror movie of the summer.
I don't know what the you know, ceiling is on
zombie movies, Like how much can they make? How much
your audience is into it. But we know horror movies
can hit pretty well. So can it make a hundred?
Can can it hit one hundred and fifty?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I don't know. I'd like to see it. I like
to see it though.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, I'd love to see that do really well. We'll
it go that far? I don't know, We'll see.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
We shall see. So for my next pick, it's another
one that pains me because after Indiana Jones, I think
I told myself. I might even have said it on
the show. I was like, I'm not picking any more
movies with old men because nobody wants to see that shit.
Nobody's like, you know what I mean, that's not drawing
a big audience. It's just not happening. Well, here I
(31:22):
am again, I'm doing it. I feel like this movie
is the biggest wild card of the summer and I'm
gonna take a flyer on it here. I think it's
a good at the number ten pick. We said this
last year, you got to take some swings and hope
they pay off in some way. This is one of them.
I'm taking f one the movie. You plus Kim who
(31:42):
I got a team. When was the last time you
want to Race Sunday dayton. Oh, I'm sorry. One, Oh,
I'm sorry then, same as you. This is the Brad
Pitt movie from the direct of Top Gun Maverick. As
all the marketing will tell you, it's a racing movie
(32:04):
about an old race car driver getting back in the game.
We'll promise some fast racing action. This is gonna be
on Imax screens for a while, so that could give
it some give it a little bit of boost. It's
from Apple, but Warner Brothers is distributing it. I don't
know what this is gonna look like. I think it
could make money overseas. I don't know how much, you know,
(32:25):
beyond the dads? Is this just a dad movie? I
was trying to look for some comparisons. Ford versus Ferrari
came out a few years ago, made a one hundred
and twenty million dollars. Can this do that? Maybe? Can
it do Top Gun Maverick seven hundred million? I don't
think so, But what does I don't know where this
is gonna land. This could be a total this This
movie costs a lot of money too, so it's a
good chance this is actually no matter what, it makes
(32:47):
kind of a bomb.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I don't know. You know, like I will ask this
question to the listeners, to you either does it matter
when they tell you who made the movie? Do you
go see a movie because is the same director did
Top Gun Maverick. Or do you go see the movie
because it either looks good or it's got Brad Pitt
in it. That's what I wonder because when they pitch it,
(33:11):
you know, like, oh that from the director of Top
Gun Maverick. That's not really what audiences are thinking about now.
They're thinking about, like does this movie look good? I
think it does look good. To be honest, I think
this is I'm a little jealous. I like this movie
as a pick. I feel like Apple is due for
a hit. I feel like they're doing I feel like
(33:32):
this movie. They really put a lot into this. I
hope it's as good as they say it is, and
they think it is, you know, because they need it.
I think they really do need it.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, a lot of their movies have kind of fallen
flat theatrically. Anyway, I think they don't really care because they,
you know, the purpose is, let's put it on our
platform and get eyeballs there. But you're right, I like
what you pointed out. With the marketing, I mean, I
get the idea of we don't really care about the director,
we just want to put gun Maverick on the previous
and people think of that movie, that might be a
(34:04):
marketing misstep, even like trying to push that.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I don't think about it, even though like I read
it and I'm like, oh, okay, well you know that
was a good movie. So does that immediately make me
a shoe in for the movie. I don't know. All right,
So this is my last pick. Next to my last pick,
I should say, so I got one more after this.
I think I'm gonna go with a comedy angle and
I'm gonna go the naked gun.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Hey, little girl, stop, what do you want? Little one?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You're ass?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Frank Dreben? Please squad.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
The new version.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
For those who don't know this, this comes out August first.
It's a reboot or a remake of the eighties nineties
Joke a minute film series. The original had Leslie, this
time with Liam Neisson as the role. He plays Frank
Drabbin Junior.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Oh, I didn't realize he's his son.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, he's like the son of I think this will
be fun to see how Liam Neeson takes his comedy
chops and plays out with something that's like way absurd.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, this is a great pick. My fear is only
me and you think this is a great pick. I
took the Jennifer Lawrence movie a few years ago. I
forget the name of it, what that comedy was, and
it made like fifty million, which is pretty good. But
that's like the only comedy that's been released in the
summer in like the past three years, like straight up comedy,
(35:45):
And I'm like, is that as far as it can get?
Do people care about the Naked Gun? Even though I
think this movie looks funny as hell.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You're right, you're gonna get the people who remember the
original Naking Gun and they're just going for the nostalgia
and laugh, and then you're gonna get the newcomers. I
think you're gonna get the people who are like the
eighteen year olds, the seventeen eighteen year olds. I think
the young audience will love it, I hope. So it's
just absurdity. If you have a short attention span, I
(36:15):
think this movie's for you because you can literally get
the joke. You don't need to You don't need to
have this really long, drawn out sequence to get the punchline.
It's like boom boom boom, boom boom. And I think
that'll I think that'll appeal to them. I really do.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I hope so, but I agree with you make a
good point. You know, it's joke am inute stuff. The
original Naked Gun made seventy eight million dollars. I saw
in the theater when I was nine years old, and
I thought it was the funniest movie I've ever seen
in my life. Yeah, so I hope this one does
the same exact.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
The opening scene in the trailer, if any of the
movie is as funny as that scene where the little
girl the lollipop goes into the bank and it ends
up being Frank Drevin. Yeah, and he pulls off the costume.
I mean, come on, you can't get any better than that.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Nissan was a good choice for that too.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, totally unexpected, right, Like I would never expect him
to be in that role.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, but it makes sense when you see it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Oh yeah, all right, So from.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
That, you know, I'm going with something a little more
family friendly, and this is, you know, a sequel, another
animated straight up animated no people in this one. I'm
going with the Bad Guys too. When it came to
being bad, we were pretty good. Who am I kidding?
(37:37):
We're the best. The name's kidding. We're students of your
work Big Crime Nurse.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
So you're like the bad girl.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And you're like a mango with teeth. What a sequel
to the Bad Guys movie, which is based on some
kids books. The first one was alright, but it was
a moderate hit with one hundred million dollars. So the
main reason I'm going with this what I like it
is actually comes out the same day as The Naked Gun.
Feel like it's got a great runway August. First, there's
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not a lot in August, so it is full runway
the whole month. You got basically in that month, just
a handful of movies and they have, you know, four
weeks to just kind of get whatever's left of the
summer before kids go back to school and everybody's like
it's it's over. So I think this movie can do
pretty well in that timeframe. Yeah, I thought you were
going to say the Smurfs movie for a second, that
(38:29):
was a little lower on my list. It's kind of
like when I took Garfield last year and you like
torched me.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, I just I couldn't see it. I couldn't see
I couldn't see the genius in your page.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, you know, which did okay, But we agreed my
family when we saw it. The worst movie we saw
last summer Garfield.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I mean, you know, Smurfs from twenty eleven did one
hundred and forty two million, but then Smurfs two a
couple of years later in twenty thirteen to only did
seventy one million.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
So big drop.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Eh, yeah, big drop because nobody cares about the Smurfs.
Let's just be honest, nobody. Nobody cares about the Smurfs.
Needless to say, that is not my last pick. Sure,
I am gonna go with So there's a laundry list
for our listeners. There's a laundry list of indie options.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, you have a bonus option with your last pick.
You can take an indie movie, as we mentioned, and
if you do, you get a three times that gross
added on as a bonus.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah. So I'm gonna take a little inspiration from Shad's
pick last year with Long Legs, because that did pretty
well with the bonus. But I'm gonna take a movie
from this list, and it's long. I'm not gonna bore
you with all the choices, but there's a movie called
The Materialists.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Hey are you single? I'm a matchmaker? Give me a
call if you want to meet somebody. If the girl
asks for us, haul drink of water, hast fine a
salary over five hundred grand, always missed you?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Deliver is a match Maker, comes out June thirteenth from
a twenty four films. If you're a film buff, you
know them, you know the studio. But it's got Dakota Johnson,
who hasn't had a great track record with movies like
she was in that Madam Web Big Bomb. But it
does have one of our fan favorites that we just
(40:24):
talked about in your movie, Pedro Pascal l right hot,
right now. Like I said, everything he touches turns to gold.
So I think that end HiT's got Chris Evans. It's
a romantic comedy.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
We don't get a lot of those.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
No, we don't, and I need one of those on
my list. Yeah, so I don't need one, but this
is this is what I'm thinking. So it rounds out
the nice variety that I've got and hopefully I'll get
some bucks from the indie Equalizer.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Oh let me just say this about this pick, you
son of a bitch. This was my plan to surprise
you and take this with the last pick. I really
like I'm like an A twenty four rom com with
these stars in it. This could really be a surprise
something that you know, makes I don't know, thirty forty
(41:10):
maybe fifty something like that million, and then you know,
you get that bonus on top of that. This has
got some real potential here, and it's coming from a
filmmaker who just made this movie Past Lives, which was
like kind of an indie sensation. So there's a lot
going for this movie that I think has some potential
as long as it like catches on with people. This
(41:32):
kind of has the stars and the the A twenty
four backing to do it. So I don't really even
have a lot of smack to talk on that pick,
because that's a good one. That was gonna be what
I was gonna go for with my last pick. You
scooped it out from under me.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
You could tell me that now because that was my
last pick.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, you can't take anything from me with it.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
But yeah, here's the thing too, is like Pedro Pascal
and Chris Evans, they're sort of loved especially so women
love them, you know, as a romantic. I think that
plays to their benefit. Like I said, Dakota Johnson's had
a little rough go at it lately, but I like her. Yeah,
if the chemistry is right, I think it'll be okay. Yeah,
(42:10):
you know what I mean. Like, that's the thing with
a rom com is you got to have good chemistry.
So hopefully that's working. But from the trailer, it looks
really good.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, that's a great choice, and I think you're gonna
get some some good bonus green with that one.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
So now that I stole that from you, what happens?
What happens to your list? What's your final pick? Shadow?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Well, this is why this year is different than years past.
There feels like there's an abundance of movies, Like I
feel like I'm left with a lot of choices, where
in years past, I feel like I'm scraping at this
point the bottom of the barrel. Yeah, so I'll tell
you what I'm looking at. There's just one movie I
just can't resist. I don't know if it's gonna flail
or it's gonna you know, upgrade on the original. And
(42:50):
that's Muthriagan two point zero missus Forrester. We have a problem.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
We're hunting an autonomous and named Amelia.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
She was built using your design for Megan.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I know how to start a Milia.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Put me and a body, and I'll help you stop her.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
You remember you hate when they do this in the name,
and you're choosing a movie that does It's.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Well, this one's interesting because it has a three and
a two, which is just super confusing. Yeah. I don't
like numbers used as letters. Everybody knows that. But I
liked the first Megan movie. It was really well marketed.
It was a surprise hit ended up earning ninety five
million dollars. There's a chance this one could upgrade. I
(43:37):
don't know if it will. Looks kind of kind of cheesy.
It kind of goes T two with Megan. If you
watch the trailer, which is a take, I feel like
there is you talk about meme ability, there's some recognition
with Megan. I think people think this is kind of
fun and enjoyable. So I think people could roll back
out for this one and it could be that kind
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of horror comedy that kind of crosses over and takes
the original even a little farther.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
I think you're giving it a lot, a lot of credit.
There's no doubt it's gonna make money because the first
one did ninety five. I mean, people seem to like
talk about the first one like it had it's like chucky. Yeah,
you know what I mean. Will it make money? Probably?
Should it make money?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Not really, But at least they didn't just remake Child's
Play here, Yeah, they like re envisioned Child's Play.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
No, I agree with that. I will agree also with
something you said. This year, we've had some real options
where you know, we could have even done more than
seven picks if we really wanted to. But yeah, I
think it's really good year for that.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of these movies
even we picked towards the end, that I'm like, oh,
that could do one hundred million, that could do one
hundred million, that could do one hundred million, Whereas you know,
the past years were like, oh, let me grab something
that can maybe make fifty million dollars, twenty million dollars,
you know, something like that or Horizon an American Saga
Part one. So that's the draft. Well, each have our pick.
(45:10):
Let's do a little recap here by team. So I
have Leelo and Stitch, Jurassic World Rebirth, Fantastic Four First Steps,
How to Train Your Dragon F one, The Bad Guys Too,
and Mathriegan two point zero.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
I have Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning Superman from the
World of John Wick, Ballerina Ilioh twenty eight years Later,
The Naked Gun, and just Materialists, not the Materialists.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
It's cleaner that way. So wrapping up here today, Patrick,
how do you feel about your team, your chances of winning?
How's it look to you? You feel good? Did you
get what you wanted?
Speaker 3 (45:54):
I do feel pretty good. I liked F one. I'm
really interested to see what that does. I also would
have liked to lead alone Stitch. I think that was
a good pick for you, So we'll see how that does.
I mean, I think it's gonna go gangbusters, you know.
But I'm pretty pretty happy with my draft. What about you?
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah, I think I look solid. I feel like my
team is strong. A lot of these movies feel so variable,
and this is what kind of made drafting hard. I
feel like there's a large clump. Yeah, like Superman Jurassic
World F one twenty eight years later. I don't know
where these how much these movies are gonna make, or
where they're gonna do. I'm like, got an idea, but
(46:31):
I have no idea how that's going to turn out.
I felt like in years past it seemed like here's
the big three at the top, and then there's like
Tier two, tier three. This felt like kind of like
there's a big ball at the top and the you know,
big ball in the middle, and that was it. So
we'll find out. I love seeing the naked gun on there.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah, it makes me happy, it does. So, all right,
we feel good about our teams. Now we have to
do our Wick Award predictions, also known as our pre wictions.
That's right, Oh that was a good one. All right.
So the total amount of money we predict our teams
will earn be four bonuses. If you go over, you
(47:12):
or disqualified from the bonus even if you're closer. So
this makes it tougher, that's the tricky part.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, okay, I think I'm ready, you ready, all right,
I'm going with one point four billion.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Okay, so one billion, four hundred million.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah, one billion, four hundred million.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
All right, set in Stone.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Set in Stone can't change it now, I know, I
immediately want to change it. As soon as I said it,
I wanted to change it.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
What about you, I'm going to do one billion, forty
five million.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
One billion, forty five million. Yeah, so one point zero
four five billion.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Yeah, I'm getting real specific there.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
I thought you were going to go one dollar. I
guess the second person can do that. Huh you could?
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, prices right, rules, I will say, I don't think
you're over because of Lelo and Stitch.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I'm counting on it being the number one movie of
the summer. I thought it would be bigger than all
the rest. I'm counting on it hitting at least four hundred.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
You don't think Karate Kid Legends was.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Gonna be the biggest movie of the summer. It was
on my radar and I'm like, I don't know, I
just didn't get there's something about it. I just don't
have a good feeling about. But on the flip side
of that, to end the show, we always do this,
what's the one summer movie you're most excited for? What's
the one you're like I'm gonna definitely see that.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
You might think it'd be Nobody too well, I know
how you like Nobody won I did, but I think
it might be you know, I've said this a million
times twenty eight years later, but I I'm also kind
of want to just see the end of the Mission
Impossible series. I don't want to see where they take it,
you know what I mean, Like, what happens? Does he die?
Like in James Bond? Yeah, you know, I hope not.
(48:54):
Come on, it's a feel good action movie, like I
want to see Everybody Live.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I'm with you on those two movies, though those are
probably on the top of my list, the same ones
twenty eight years later, I think I'm most intrigued by
just to see what they're gonna do with it. You know,
you got kind of the same team back, same writer,
same director, So I'm curious to see that. To throw
another one in the mix, though, Weapons, coming out August
eighth from Warner Brothers is from the director of.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Barbarian Mmmm okay yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Summary on that is an interrelated multi story horror epic
about the disappearance of high school students in a small town.
So no idea, you know, it sounds kind of mysterious
what this is about. But just knowing the kind of
creativity of how Barbarian was put together, I'm curious where
this one goes. And it's a Warner Brothers release, so
this isn't even like a smaller like a twenty four
(49:45):
Neon type thing. So pretty interested to see what that
one has in store for us.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Yeah, we always talk about this. News stories always great. Yeah,
we're always wishing for more stories, for more original stuff.
So you know, I can never discredit them for trying.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, so those are some ones. Maybe we'll check out.
That's the draft. We've done it again, it's on paper.
Now comes the fun part when we see, you know,
these movies slowly trickle into theaters. We start to get
some numbers, we keep track of things. There's some crying,
some devastation, this slamming into tables, some why why why?
(50:25):
And then you know we have the end where we
kind of tally the results.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
I will say this year has been fun because I
see a renewed spirit, a renewed shad.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
I'm alive again.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, you're excited. I could see the hope and the
twinkle in your eye that this is going to be
the year everything that you know happened last year is
going to do it again. I'm baby, I gotta tell
you that could all come crumbling down pretty fast. I
know from experience.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
It didn't seem fast when you were on top for
like five years.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah yeah, let me ask you this question. If I
come back and win this this year, how are you
going to feel?
Speaker 2 (51:02):
I'll be okay for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
I have a nice pushing from that win, like I'm
at least back in it. It was more just the
year after year after year of crushing defeat that got
to me after a while.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Well, I know the listeners were getting tired of it.
So we you know, we mix things up. You know,
we mixed it up. So yeah, tune in for our
follow up episode in September when we crunch the numbers
and add up our bonuses and then we're you know,
going to find out whose team Emergence emerges victorious in
(51:36):
the Summer Draft. We'll also have links in the show
notes to the past episodes if you want to go
back and listen to those and hear us win and lose.
We got the Awards episodes after that, so you can
always listen to the back catalog of those things if
you like pretty fun. Yeah, yeah, And you know there's
some lists out there. There's we've got a bunch of resources.
(51:58):
We're also going to do a new landing page for
the summer movie draft that'll have other information, like it's
going to have all of the episodes, but then it's
going to have some of the movie.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Trailers and stuff that we did. So a lot of
good stuff, and we'll try to keep you updated, you know,
provide little updates throughout the summer on some of the
moment episodes. As we go through this, we keep track
of things, give you updates on how the movies are doing,
what's happening with us, how we're feeling.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
All right. Well, that's it for this episode of Movies
and Marketing. Until next time. Let's fade to black. I'll
be back. He's done coming Sud
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