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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
What do you think Shad classifies an action movie? I
should ask you that first.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
That's a good question. What classifies as an action movie?
That could be chases, that could be fights. I would
just say bodies in motion a lot of the time
trying to do something something that would signify action. I
would say a good chunk of the movie has to
be that, probably at least thirty percent of it.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And you know, there are some in history that are
very well known as action movies which will always be
that way. I think there are some newer ones that
would it hold up to that scrutiny of like the
old school action one liner movies, you know, with like
Arnold or Stallone. Sometimes I think they're writing a fine
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line between action, sometimes thriller, sometimes horror, sometimes you know,
comedy even sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, I was even thinking, you know, some of the
like the First Rambo before they got like super action.
The First Rambo is kind of like a little bit
of a drama with some action like built in there.
Do we still you know, consider those action movies. It's
kind of like a lot of movies are walking the line,
you know, other than these pure action movies like we
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got in the eighties, nineties or even now, you'll get
some movies where you're like, oh man, that movie was
like non stop action. It was just the whole movie
was like you're going from a fight scene to a
chase scene. You know, it's always like constant motion or
something is always happening. There's a lot of other movies,
especially throughout history, that kind of just walk that line
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a little more and would just have more like, oh,
there's an action sequence in this movie. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So that brings me to the trivia for today. I
have one for you, and I think you're gonna really
like this one. Okay, so dramatic pause In what nineteen
eighty seven action film did Arnold Schwarzenegger ad lib the
now iconic line i'll be back after already using it
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in another movie. Hmm ah, this is the key.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right, that's the twist, right, yeah, because I know, you know,
the original movie has to be The Terminator, so that
has to be where it started. So that's not the answer. Yeah,
So what was the one where he said it again?
Nineteen eighty seven movie. Don't think it's Predator, but that
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was around that time, so I'm thinking it's like The
Running Man or Red Heat. I'm thinking you're in that vicinity.
I'll go, I'll go Running Man, the Running Man.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You got it? That's good, that's it. Yeah, he says
it literally before he runs someone over with a giant vehicle.
Subtlety wasn't really his vibe obviously.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
No, nor the Running Man's vibe.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, but that's good. I didn't know if you would
get that right, you know, because it's hard because Terminators
obviously comes to mind, right, because that's what you think
is the iconic I'll be back. But there's another movie
he used it in. So the fact that he reused
that one liner should tell you something how good that
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one was and how it really traversed the cultural moment.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
That's surprising, I assume it was an intentional right, I.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Mean it was ad libbed apparently, so I don't know
what that looks like in a script, but I mean
I'm sure they were probably pleased with that because you know,
they knew how important that one liner was, you know,
and back then it was like, let's get all the
juice from these one liners as we can. I'll be back.
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You did not going to say that video, that's what
you always say.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I wonder if James Cameron was pissed.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, you like, maybe you know, anybody could say that.
It's not like, it's not very specific, you know, yeah,
it's not super unique. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I say
I'll be back all the time. But he says it
in the way he says it. You know what he's
talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
A classic, A double used How often does that happen?
A double used line in two separate movies, not even
part of the same franchise. So on today's episode, this
is a big one. This is Some would say it's epic,
action packed. We're talking about action movie one liners. What
do we mean by that, Well, we mean those quick quips,
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clever puns, or witty remarks our heroes make in the
middle of a tense situation, sometimes even as their life
is on the line, where they're about to or have
just finished disposing of a fearsome foe. The history of
action one liners goes back decades, maybe even centuries. One
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online writer references precedents to action one liners in ancient
epic poetry. But the action one liners that we're talking
about today really took off at the movies in the
nineteen sixties with pun loving James Bond, picked up steam
in the nineteen seventies, and then reached a fever pitch
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during the action movie apex of the eighties and nineties.
Why did so many action movies include one liners? Because
the only thing sweeter than vanquishing your sworn enemy is
pausing to deliver a cool bit of dialogue to make
them think about how cool you are before sending them
to hell with a bullet. So, Patrick, why don't we we,
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being the audience, love these one liners so much in
action movies? What is it about them?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You know, it's funny. I was reading somewhere that you know,
and they sort of alluded to the fact that one
liners give personalities to the heroes of the movie. It
turns some would say like a generic shootout like you
know between Arnold or whoever, into like a very cinematic
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moment where the hero is really you know, giving us
something extra, something unique, you know what I mean. So
that personality that you need to really cheer for that
hero I think comes through in the one liners.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah. I think that's key, you know, that humanity, you know,
injecting them in it makes them a little like us. Yeah,
they're more than just these kind of unstoppable muscle machines.
You're like, ah, like like one of my buddies. The
other thing I think that's kind of key, is it?
You know, breaks the tension a little bit. As an audience,
we need a little relief, relief or release in some
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of these moments, or reminder that this isn't too real,
you know, or in some cases, removing us from the
the violence of what's going on. If you have a
lot of blood being spilled or guns being shot or
explosions going off, sometimes it's nice to just kind of
have someone remind you, hey, this is actually fun. We're
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having a good time here. It's all, you know, just
an illusion we're putting on for you.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
There's something to it because you and I were talking
about this when we were talking about the cast, you know,
doing this episode, and something about like our childhood and
growing up in the eighties and the nineties and having
all of these historic, maybe iconic action movies from these
guys who will be probably forgotten in another thirty forty
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fifty years. There'll be like the old you know Westerns
or the you know movies from the thirties and forties.
I mean, nobody really thinks about those guys. Like they
hear the name and they go, oh, yeah, they've never
seen a movie maybe by them, you know, that kind
of thing. And I think that eventually happened. But we
grew up in this time, and I think right now
these guys are all still alive. So you know, when
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we think of action movies and one liners, we have
a lot to pull from from our youth. Especially.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's a really good point, especially when you compare it
to like Westerns, that's probably what it was. It'll look
like even now probably to young people. It's like this curiosity. Yeah,
that's weird that these were some of the biggest movies
you know, in the world for this ten or fifteen
year period where some of these action movies with these big,
muscle bound guys, you know, delivering these lines, these joke
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lines as they're like blowing people away. But this was
like a huge thing. People are going to look back
on that and be like, yeah, that's odd, and we
don't really do that as much anymore. You know, maybe
they pop up here and there once in a while,
but it's not like this whole segment, and they definitely
don't own the box office like they did at one
point in time.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, but you know, like all good movies, we relive
them through storytelling, like we're doing in the podcast right now. Yeah,
so what are we doing, Patrick, What are we doing
here today? What's the exercise? The assignment, Ladies and gentlemen, listeners,
boys and girls, if you will, if you will, we're
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each going to share favorite action movie one liners. And
also we're going to share a potential This is the.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Best part, by the way, this is the this is
the wrinkle.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
This is the wrinkle. So not only are you getting
an action one liner reminder like this existed, but you're
also getting we're going to give you another actor pastor
present that we think could also pull off this one
liner or you know, baby be in that movie in
place of that actor. So that's the wrinkle or the
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hard part, the challenge, really would you say?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, I think it's the fun part, and I think
it definitely adds a unique way of thinking about some
of these, you know, taking a different lens or trying
to look at them, especially when you're thinking like this
could be a person at any point in time. It
could be somebody now, it could have been somebody fifty
years before the movie was made. It could be any time,
any point in time.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, it's the challenge. It's also you know, when the
door is wide open, you almost become paralyzed in a way, like,
oh my, how do I an answer this question? You
know what I mean? Because there's just the infinite possibilities,
and when you have infinite possibilities, as you're like, you
just can't become crippled.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, it's hard. It's like you're you're casting, you're the
central casting office, and you're throwing around some ideas and
you're like does this work? Does this work?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And they're like, you have an unlimited budget, you can
get anyone. You're like, no, don't say that, I can't
do that.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You want to go first you want me to go first.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Ye, I'll go first. This time, I'll go first. Do
it all right? So I was just telling you off air.
I watched The Newest Captain America recently, and in the
Newest Captain America, you may or may not, I believe
you're choosing.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
For your first one a one liner from Captain America
Brave New World. That's super exciting.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
No, no, no, I'm not choosing something from that movie.
But this is I'm leading into the story and how
I chose my first one. Oh, okay, okay, So listeners,
you may or may not know. In the movie, Harrison
Ford plays the President in the United States. Who is
you know in comic book form? Blah blah blah. Right,
it's not important. But what I thought was funny was
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when I was watching it, I was going, it's weird
that he's playing the president. And I thought to myself
because he was on Air Force one in the movie
Captain America movie, and I was like, ah, there's something there, right,
lo and behold there's a great action one liner from
the movie Air Force One from nineteen ninety seven with
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Harrison Ford. He plays President Marshall. He says in the
movie Get Off My Plane, Right, Harrison Ford says it
like he's been the president forever and personally wrestles with
terroris daily and it's calm rage, which is what's great
about it because he's the president in the movie. At
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the time, that was a big deal and he was
a big star, and that one liner was kind of
like kind of quippi. After the fact, people were saying
stuff like that in you know, common everyday discussions or
whatever conversations. They'd they'd say it jokingly, kind of like,
you know, get to the Choppa from Arnold's Days. So
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I had a really hard time with the alternate actor
for this, but I chose something kind of safe because
I was like, who else could I see? And I
was sort of stuck with someone maybe in that time
period in my mind. So I went with Tommy Lee Jones.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Okay, yeah, presidential, very presidential.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I read this thing where like about actors who have
a certain kind of jenes sequa, this moral authority they
called it, which I thought that that was a great example,
gruff moral authority, you know, this like energy to them.
Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones kind of have that,
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And coincidentally they were in a movie together, a good one.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, what was that movie called The Fugitive?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
The Fugitive? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, so maybe that was
a cop out that I chose him, being that they're
kind of the same uh, same guy in different forms.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
No, No, I think that's a good I think that's
well cast. That's a good pick because you can easily
picture it. So he's another guy who's you know, it's
hard to find somebody who can pull off a president Yeah,
where like, oh, okay, I respect this guy. He's a
good that's a good presidential choice. That's a good pick.
This one very close to making my lists, like an
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honorable just off the list. Now, this is one of
these cases where you know, we don't know what the
other person's gonna pick. I think there's a strong chance
we're gonna have some overlap here. I'd be surprised if
we didn't at some point.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Though.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
There's a lot of choices, you know, there's just some
that are just so good. I'd be surprised if there
wasn't at least one that overlapped. So this one was
pretty close, but a great one. And Harrison Ford, this
guy knows his way around a Quippie one Liner, did
him in Star Wars, he did him in Indiana Jones's
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He's Got Skills. But I think that's the one that really,
you know, in the nineties hit and I think he
says it, and doesn't he like throw someone off the
plane right after he says it?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, If I'm gonna nitpick it in any way, I'd
probably say, shouldn't he say get off our plane? Isn't
it America's plane?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah? Well, that's kind of the beauty of it, right,
is like this this is his plane. He's been the
president forever and there's never gonna be another president.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So that's a great pick. So my first one, you know,
I'm gonna go right to the goat. Okay, the greatest
of all time. We've mentioned him, the king of the
action one liner, mister Arnold Schwarzenegger, And I'm gonna go
with one of our favorite, probably the movie that is
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stuffed with more one line than any other action movie,
or at least it's in the running. That is Commando,
where he plays John Matrix, and the line is little
some steam Bennett and this is when he, you know,
stabs a man in the torso with a pipe that
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then is as a result, is shooting steam out of it,
and then he delivers this line, you know, right after it.
This is a certain type of one liner that plays
when a person is killed and you deliver a pun,
you know, to explain how you're killing them, you know,
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or it kind of works like that. So there's a
lot there's quite a few one liners like this where
you're like, I'm I guess, get off my plane. Even
works at a certain that way as well, when you're
kicking them off the plane, you know, as that's happening.
So there's a lot like this, not to step on
toes of other picks, but Arnold has a few other
ones in the you know, like in Predator he stabs
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someone with a knife I think, into a tree and
then says stick around. These almost always work for me,
so I like these every time. So this is, you know,
just a classic one from Schwarzenegger, from a movie filled
with them. Who else could have done it? It's tough
with Schwarzenegger. I thought of a few though. I thought
of a few, and then I'll tell you where I landed. First.
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I went to interestingly in rip Val Kilmer, like an
early Val Kilmer doing this. You know, he's got kind
of his top gun haircut, which is similar to Arnold's
Commando haircut. You know, I could see him pulling it off.
Then I was like, maybe we do something different, you know,
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maybe we modernize Commando a little bit. What if we
get Charlie's thrown in here. She's done a few action movies.
I could see her, you know, doing some stabbing and
doing like let off some steam. She could probably deliver
it pretty well. What if we take this in a
even different direction and it's kind of like even more
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of an action comedy, and then we go with Jack Black.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Okay, I see what you're doing there.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, and then it's just gushing. The stave is just
really flying out.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah. Those are interesting choices though, because, like I see
Charlie's there own because of like Atomic Blonde. You know,
she was big in that.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, like because Fury Rode Atomic Blonde. You know, she
was in one of the Fast and Furious movies. She's
done some action stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah. Interesting thing about that is that is a very
action movie. The one liners almost make them super cheesy
to the point where like they're funny, you know, like
there's some funniness to them that you just can't get
away from. It's a hidden comedy in a lot of ways.
You know, like I love Diehard, but Diehard has so
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much comedy in it that you're kind of like, yeah,
a lot of Bruce Willis brings a lot of comedy too. Yeah, borderline,
this is a comedy, right, It's not a romantic comedy,
but it's a comedy nonetheless, And you know, a little
bit of a holiday flick, which is why, which is why, Chad,
I have to have one from die Hard. And this
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is where I struggled. I really struggled because the one
that almost everybody in the world knows is Yippie kaya Mother.
But that's the one, right that everybody knows. But I
was like, what about the unsung hero of that movie?
And there's multiple but I like.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Welcome in a body pout.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean so good, right, John McClain nineteen eighty eight,
die Hard. You got this guy, he's, you know, shouting
from the roof to after he you know, is tossing
a dead body onto a police car. I don't know
if he was really on the roof or he's in
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the in the window. It's like part celebration part cry
for help. You know, hero gold right there, you know
what I mean. And he's got that sarcasm. And to
your point, Bruce Willis was great at action and great
at comedy. Like the fusion of that was so good,
so good it can't be understated, like he was. He
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was great at that. So I really struggled though with
this idea of who could it be? Who could that
alternate actor be? So I came back to these two
individuals who have.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Some of it.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
One of us is the questionable, but I think, you know,
you could see it one of them a little bit.
Ryan Reynolds Okay, yeah, easily brings the same sarcastic smirk,
slightly better skincare. The other would be Paul Rudd. Yeah,
that would be pretty interesting, right, Like it's unexpected. Like
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Ryan Reynolds, I think you could see him maybe a
little bit more in that role because of some of
the other things he's done recently. But Paul Rudd is
like he's got that though too. Where like Bruce Willis
was known for comedy first then kind of came into
the action, I think, and that's kind of Paul Rudd.
Paul Rudd, I feel like, I know him comedy first,
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and then you know he's done some action stuff too.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
You know, you've never seen him in anything like that
because he gets so a little edge to him mm hmm.
But I'd love to see him try to pull it off.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, like this mix of desperation and comic timing, you
know what I mean, Like just you could kind of
see him being in this situation like that. This is
one of the reasons why he gets on those lists
of like sexiest man alive or like most interesting person.
You know, it's just because he's got this charm to him,
which I think Bruce Willis had, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, and he can the like I'm by myself kind
of talking through, making jokes through the whole thing. Yeah,
you know, going through it. Could he pull off some
of the action stuff. I kind of think he could
and be interesting to see him try, because again he's
never like done anything like that.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I could totally see him crawling through the events, you
know what I mean, like talking to him.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Come out, come out to the coasts. We'll get together,
have a few laughs. Yeah, you know, yeah, you're right,
the diehard filled with comedy, you know, Welcome to the party, pal,
was one of the ones I considered for this definitely
honorable for me. There's a lot though, I was even
just going through a lot of the Diehard quotes. There's
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the one where he calls the police line and the
lady tells him this channel is reserved for emergency calls only,
and he says, no, lady, does it sound like a
mortar and a pizza? Just stuff like that throughout. You know,
it's almost like non stop throughout that movie. But I
will skip ahead. You mentioned it. I couldn't leave it off.
I just thought it was too good.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I had to go with.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, I had to, you know, why did I have
to do that? Mother is like gold when it comes
to action movie one liners, and this I think is
the peak of it. No movie or actor employed it
better than Bruce Willis and die Hard. This line takes
the crown in the Mother one liner Hall of Fame,
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beating out Arnold in Predator.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Oh Yeah, you are one ugly mother and Samuel L.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Jackson in Snakes on a Plane saying I've had it
with these mother snakes on this mother plane. It's also
just such a kind of unique and odd line. There's
like this whole conversation about cowboys he's having with with Hans,
And they could have easily gone with something like get
a long little doggie or something like that, you know
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what I mean, But they instaid. They went with the
like yiffy kaye thing, which is just so memorable. Yeah,
and then you pair it with mother.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And it's just the way Bruce Willis delivers it with
that kind of like smart ass way he does. It
is just it's just chef's kiss. I was trying to
think who could replace Bruce Willis in this movie is
kind of like a unicorn. I was trying to look
up who else did they consider for this role? Pretty interesting?
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Some of them were the standards of the time, but
the people they were first thought of for the role
Frank Sinatra weird. Then you got Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Mel Gibson,
Burt Reynolds, Richard Gear and Harrison Ford. All of them
basically turned it down. Who is the third on the
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list alone after Smell Gibson. Oh, mel Gibson, He's about
the only one I could kind of see because you
you want that guy to be like kind of an
everyday normal, Yeah, but not Stallone and Schwarzenegger. THO would
have been awful picks for this. I don't think it
would have done the same. Now they were two bulky,
big dudes.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
How could they fit in those events? That's why, in fact, you.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Know, that's why I was trying to think, you need
that right level of that kind of balance of every
man in cockiness. So where I landed was another actor
from this time period, someone I really like Kurt Russell.
Oh okay, I think Kurt Russell could have probably, you know,
pulled this off. I don't know if he's as good
as Bruce Willis, but I think he could have done
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pretty well. I also, we want to go back a
little farther, a young Paul Newman, you know, like the
hustler Paul Newman. He's got the cockiness. He could have
probably done this too.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, that's a that's an interesting one. I don't know.
I can't picture him, but I can't picture him doing it.
But if he was like fast forward and he was
the younger version at that time, yeah, I like the
cross time machine.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Kurt Russell, I think was you know, if you couldn't
get Bruce Willis, he'd be a good second guy.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
He had a lot of that in the days of
Escape from New York. He had one liners in that
Escape from La Tango and Cash Big Trouble in Little China,
full of one liners, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
He's he's kind of doing the same thing where he's
just commenting on the action the whole time.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Right, Yeah, double die hard tough to recast. What do
you got next? So I was telling you that again,
kind of the things that happened to you in life.
At the moment when we're podcasting, we're gonna look back
as a time capsule and go, these were things that
were happening in our lives, right, And so I was
just telling you off air. I was watching the john
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Wick series, all kind of confined because we were gonna
go see Ballerina. So I was like, you know, I
was picking all these movies from then, right, and I
was like, there's got to be something here, And of
course there are there's newer movies. There's newer movies that
have one liners. So I've picked one from John Wick.
So John Wick in john Wick twenty fourteen, at one
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point he says, yeah, I'm thinking on back kind of
goes plays a little bit off of I'll be back.
You know, it's got that element. It's calm, collected, somewhat chilling,
you know, in Keanu's chilling way, if you want to
say that. He delivers it like a man who didn't
want to return to violence, but now that he's here,
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everyone else is doomed. That kind of thing. And it
became the unofficial mission statement of the entire franchise. So
who's an alternate for this?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I'm interested to hear what you got for this one.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay, this is tough. I'm trying to think outside the box, unconventional,
keeping it kind of real. Hear me out. What do
you think of Oscar Isaac?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah? Yeah, I really like that. I don't know if
he has the physicality of a Keanu Reeves, but who does,
but probably to some extent, could pull a lot of
that off. I mean, I think the dialogue, especially which
you know, limited dialogue with John Wick. Yeah, yeah, but
I think he could definitely bring the way to a
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line like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
When I think of Keanu, I think of quiet intensity.
M h right, And I think that's how I think
of Oscar Isaac.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Is this.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I think he's a good actor, you know, a good,
great actor. I would just kind of smash those two
words together. But really, like, I think he could pull
that off. And again, I you know, like Keanu and
the physicality, I think he kind of moved into that.
I don't think he was ever meant to be that.
I think he took it on. He was like, I'm
going to do this. You know, maybe the Matrix movies
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prepared him for that. I don't know, you know what
I mean. But yeah, prior to Matrix, I don't know
if I would have ever thought he would be that guy,
but John Wick really made him into that.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, No, it's true. And Oscar Isaac, he's one of
those guys I've always thought about. He's like been steadily working.
But there was a point I was like, oh, this
guy's at some point going to become like a larger
star than he actually has become.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, John Wick is very close to a lot of
people's hearts.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I know.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
So they're going to be people hating on the fact
that I just picked Poscar Isaac, or maybe people who
love that choice.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I don't know, you had to recast somebody.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, I like to pick though.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I like getting a more modern movie in there, and
I like getting a Kanu in there. You know, I
was looking around at some Kanu movies and you're right.
He does have more of a you know, quiet, calmer presence.
So he wasn't like a Schwarzenegger where he's like just
throwing out these lines ten times a movie. That just
wasn't who he was, even though he's in some of
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the most significant action movies of the last thirty years. Yeah,
so going in a semi different direction. You know, this
individual also known maybe kind of for martial arts. Someone
questioned his capabilities, but not me. I'm talking about mister
Steven Segal in the movie Hard to Kill where he
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plays Mason Storm. But yeah, that's the one where he's
you know, goes into the coma he's kind of left
for dead, and then he goes back for revenge. So
his line in that there's a senator he wants to
get revenge on. This guy has like commercials on TV
where his kind of catch phrases and you can take
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that to the bank, and Steven Sagal kind of keeps
thinking about this over and over and then he delivers
the line, I want to take you to.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
The bank, Senator Trent to the blood bank.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
To the blood bank. So the pause is key here.
This is why it's great, you know, this is where
the comedy has made though it's not meant to be
funny at all. This is dead serious, you know, especially
with Sigal's delivery. So this is another type of you know,
one liner. We get a lot where it's like you
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have the line, you have kind of an ellipsis, and
then you have the rest of the line that like,
you know, twist it on its head a little bit.
Another example of this that I thought about was a
stallone and Demolition Man where he says You're gonna regret
this the rest of your life, both seconds of it.
So Steven Seagal not the best line delivery Man. Everything's
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kind of the same. It's nush tone, it's very much
like this, but I think it really works with this line.
The calm, quiet, almost whisper makes the second part of
the line come as kind of an added surprise. And
then you also get this in the movie, this kind
of tuned up music that's like the dung, you know,
so it makes it more exciting. So who else could
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have delivered this line? You know, it's tough to match
Segal's delivery, So maybe we need to take it in
a different direction. Can I give you one, mister Nicholas Cage.
Can't even begin to think what exactly he would do
with it, but I know he would do something off
the wall. I'm thinking there would be more or maybe
a little more yelling, or you know, a raising and
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then a lowering of the voice. I'm gonna take you
to the blood bank, Senator Trent to the blood bank.
I don't know. I can't really do a Nick Cage.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's a good change up, But for the rest of
the movie, could he hold up? Like I don't know
what his martial arts skills are. He could slap people, probably.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
He could. He could throw people around a little bit.
Sometimes you want somebody who's doing the same. You know,
when you're casting, you're like, I want somebody who captures
this energy. And sometimes you're like, I just can't. Nobody
else can do it. I've gotta go complete opposite.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I think you're gonna really appreciate this.
I picked two thousand ones, The Fast and the Furious
Dominic Toretto.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I live my life a quarter a mile at a time.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
It's melodramatic, it's oddly poetic. I thought, what if I
take that question and I give it to chatupt alternate
for Vin Diesel Timothy shallomet No, I was a little rolling.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Well, let's not dismiss this. What if he's like, I
want to like completely change perception of me. He like
shaves his head, balks up. You know, he's like just
this huge dude. He's trying to you know, he's like
reborn as something different. He's got some acting chops he
could probably you know, you could pull off the line.
(33:30):
So if he could change his physical appearance, I think
he could do it, grow some sort of crazy goateee.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
What you're saying is if he could change everything about himself,
which you can do.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Actors can you know, physically transform themselves.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I mean that's the goal, right, Like, isn't that what
acting is? So I yeah, okay, I'll give you that,
but it's a stretch. He's not the first name that
would come to my mind at all. No, I don't
even know how Timothy Shallomey talks, baby like I live
my life a quarter mile at a time. It's like
a little bit of Timothy Shallomey slash Mark Wahlberg. If
he was a mouse.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
This is a good pick, though. I like the incorporation
of the fast and furious in here. You know, you
don't necessarily think of the two thousands for action.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Movies, Yeah, for sure. And we're picking favorites, and you know,
there's a zillion favorites. I mean, I really there's so
many that I could pick from from our youth even
and I was trying to be a little bit fair
to the decades. Part of me was like, there's more
than just what we grew up with. And I know
listeners talk about that probably all the time, Like Patrick
(34:35):
shad Get, you pick something else, any sort of list making.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
The process you go through sometimes like how am I
going to spread it out? How do these picks look
next to each other? And then sometimes you're just like,
I'm just picking my favorites. To hell with it all,
you know. It's kind of like the different processes you
go through each time you do this. Yeah, for my
last one, I went to what I think is the
top the mountain. Of course, I'm talking about the film
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Passenger fifty seven, where Wesley Snipes played John Cutter and
uttered always bet on black. It's quick, it's kind of
off the wall and out of nowhere. But the delivery
is just great. And even in the movie, if you
watch it, the filmmakers go way over the top with
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like spotlighting it. They whip the camera on Snipes. This
is it. This is the peak of the one liner.
This is like the moment of realization, like we're doing
a one liner. Hey, everybody, look at us. Here it is.
The marketing for this movie was basically built around this line.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, I do remember that.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
So it's also just great. It's fun and Snipes, you know,
he just kills it. So who else could do it?
Thinking about Denzel, Denzel could probably do this. I don't
think Denzel's doing Passenger fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
No, younger Denzel. I could hear him in his toe,
like the way he talks.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, I can hear him in his voice doing it.
I just don't think he would do it. Oh, He's like,
this is a diehard rip off. I'm not doing this today.
I also went to Michael B. Jordan. I'm like, hey,
you could probably do this. I have a tough time
like him getting the delivery just right. I'm not sure
about For a minute, I went to Will Smith. Not
necessarily Will Smith. Now you know the post slap Will Smith,
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but the I Am legend Will Smith. I'm like, okay, maybe,
but then I got it and the answer is I
think the actor with one of the greatest voices around
today who almost every line he delivers, you're like, oh,
this guy is just really adding some weight to this
this like I'm feeling this, and that's Sterling K. Brown.
(36:50):
Do you know this guy Sterling K. Brown? If he
was on This is Us? He was on the show
what was the show we just watched on Hulu with
the President Paradise Just can't think of the name of
it now, Paradise. Yeah, he was just on the show Paradise.
But he can like deliver a kind of a dumb
line but give way to him. So I think he's
my guy. He's who I would get with.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Hmmm, that's a good choice. I think he had a
charisma to him, and, like a lot of those guys
of the time period, a charm that was on screen
you kind of miss it when it's gone.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, definitely one of my favorites. There's a few. I'm
shocked you didn't include. One of them is I'm the
Law from Judge Dread Because you do it all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I am the law, that's.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Your go to stallone. I was like, oh, Patrick's definitely
going to include it.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I was, like I said, I was trying to like
bury it up because there's so much more than what
we've just been repeating ourselves.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I mean there is, but you know these are still gems.
Just you know, that's an every day or for you.
I thought of the stallone one in Cobra.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
He says, you're the disease the cure, You're the disease
of the cue.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I mentioned, you know, the inter Force one one that
was a good one. What about you know, going back
a little further Clint East with Dirty Harry, go ahead,
make my Day or do you Feel Lucky Punk? Both
of those were huge.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, if you go by decades, there's some in every
decade that are so great and there was no limit.
You know, I really wanted to include He's not coming back,
you know from point break he got Johnny Utah.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
One of my faves that would have been a good one.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
It's so good and it's one of those things I
really like one liners. Not all of them that we
choose are like this, but the ones that you can
use in everyday life. Like I say that all the time, Like, yeah,
my daughter's like, you know, I'm gonna go to the
grocery store and then I'll be home after. I'm like,
she's not coming back, you know, she's not because she's
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gonna go see her friends. She's not gonna come back.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Okay, fair, Yeah, it's going to wrap up here today,
Patrick action one liners. They're kind of lost digging. We
could probably find a few nuggets of gold, but mostly gone.
Do we need to bring them back or has their
day just passed by?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I think there should be room for one liners. It
brings levity to something that is sometimes serious. So one
liners kind of give us a moment. You know, not
everything has to be super serious. You need that comedic relief,
you know what I mean, Just give us a nugget.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
A slightly different take. I think they'll always exist in
some you know form and some like isolated form. But
I think as this like cultural force, as like you know,
a commando where they're just like loaded with them. I
think that's over. People are too self aware.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
What made them great in the past were the fact
that actors delivered them like they thought they were super cool. Yeah, no,
I saying, like a lot of them, you can't do
what Schwarzenegger did anymore without it being like winking or
intentionally cheesy, or without it being like a parody, you know,
like I was talking about, like kind of the Jack
(40:12):
Black version. Yeah, it becomes something different. So I think
that's kind of over. I know exactly when it was over,
and it was Arnold Batman and Robin in nineteen ninety seven,
I think killed it. I think that was what kind
of put the final nail in the coffin of the
action movie one liner as that, you know, we're just
gonna we're just gonna fill fill up the bag with
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these things. You can't have that kind of like self
seriousness that we had in that in the past. And
if you're saying, like, can we ever go back to that,
I don't think we can. The world has changed. The
world has changed. Killing people with puns, I don't know.
I don't know how well that's going over anymore.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, as a wise man once said, the one liners
they remind us the heroes aren't just surviving, they're styling.
It's my one liner for the episode.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
You're not just surviving, you're styling.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Anyway, we hope you like the one liners in this episode.
Maybe the next episode will have more. We don't know,
we'll try it. Well, that's it for this episode of
Movies and Marketing. Until next time, let's fade to black.
I'll be back. He's not coming back.