Eddie Murphy Ultimate Thunderdome

The legendary comedian and star of the new “Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F” faces off against various versions of himself throughout his career.

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agent. So why are we evendoing an episode that's called Eddie Murphy Ultimate

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Thunderdome Chad Well, Eddie's back andhe's back big time, bringing us his
most iconic character. Would you sayhi? You know his biggest, most
successful franchise. He's bringing it newlife on Netflix. Of course, I'm
talking about Beverly Hills Cop. He'sback with axel f. That's so hard.

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That's your camp, Chuck rock yourash out there. Okay, I'm
gonna be fine. They love meat Beverly Hills Exactive Foley. If you
ever read your own five Shootouts startedthe piece a lot, please tell me
you didn' get a rushed out againtwice. But I broke out premiered on
Netflix. So he's back, perfecttime to talk about Eddie Murphy. We

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had Beverly Hills Cop, then wegot Beverly Hills cop Roman Numeral two,
then we got Beverly Hills cop RomanNumeral three. Now we've got Beverly Hills
Cop Colon. They love the colonthese days. Axel f, what do
you think think about this new titlingversion? You on board with this?
You like this? I think theyshould have named it Beverly Hills Cop Colin

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Romulus. Well, that would havebeen everybody would have watched it. Then,
Yeah, already taken obviously, sothey couldn't do that. That'd have
been very alien to the franchise.Oh, I don't know how I feel
about it. It doesn't bother me, but it's also kind of weird when
you really do think about it,because axel F, I mean, they
call him fully and maybe people understandthe character well enough to know that.

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So I mean you could make anargument against it, I guess, but
it doesn't really bother me. Whatabout you? Well, if I'm right,
the theme music write the theme songthat, yeah, that is called
axel F right, that's true.Yeah, So my take was the Nate
they're actually naming the movie after thetheme music, which is named after the

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main character, Hm, which iskind of weird and I don't think has
ever happened before. Yeah, Iwould have probably liked it better if it
was just called AXLF and without theBeverly Hills Cop. But you kind of
have to have the Beverly Hills Copin there. Yeah, so people understand.
Yeah, so you're a little bitstuck. I guess it's better than
Beverly Hills Cop four, which wouldjust be boring. And they also needed

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a departure from three, which Ithink was a little bit of a wreck.
Yeah for them, everybody wanted towipe that stink off. What if
they would have called it Beverly HillsCop four colon AXLF hyphen an American saga
Chapter one. Yeah, it's probablythe best it could be. I don't

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know who cares. Yeah, it'slike I said, it's fine. It
doesn't bother me. Could it besomething different? It fits with the movie
we got, I think. Yeah, And we're really talking about this because
Eddy Murphy Man, he's back.He's back, one of at one point
the biggest stars in the world.It might be hard for some people to

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remember at this point in time.But he was one of our biggest stars,
one of our biggest box office draws. The movie that propelled him to
start him one of the movies anyways, Beverly Hills Cop back in nineteen eighty
four. Was when that came outforty years ago this year, Yeah,
anniversary. Yeah, as we weretalking about off air, I saw that
movie in the theater when I wasseven. That's that's wild, that's criminal.

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It's what the eighties were like thoughit was free wheeling, you know.
Yeah, like rating system doesn't meananything to us. He swore a
lot in that movie. I doremember that. Yeah, yeah he did.
He was swearing, it's great forkids. You're fine, you turned
out fine. More than fifty moviesunder his belt. It's a lot of
movies. So we thought now wouldbe a great time to talk about his

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unique decade spanning career in a waythat only we can, and that involves
the Thunderdome. The Thunderdome, theThunderdome. Yeah, we'll get there,
we'll get there in a moment,But first, let's take a minute to
talk about the state of the summerbox office challenge. Yeah, done,

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dun dumb, that's where we needsome music. If you remember last episode,
I think when we were talking aboutthe box office, we had just
kind of kicked off our summer moviedraft. Hollywood was in a panic.
We had Furiosa was in the tank, you know, Garfield was kind of
scratching along, and people were like, it's over, the summer's over.

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It's a disaster. Movies are done. How quickly the tides have turned Patrick
since that time, your movie,your top pick in the draft, came
out and has just destroyed everything inits path. Of course, I'm talking
about Inside Out two, eighth quickestmovie to hit five hundred million at the

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domestic box office ever, reaching themark in twenty one days, one day
quicker than last summer's massive hit Barbie. That's great, right, yeah,
yeah, how are you feeling aboutthat? Some might say, how good
I am at accurately predicting the boxoffice smash hits. You know, I
was really hoping to go one summerwithout you hauling in the giant fish.

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Well, we're not out of thewoods yet. This is what scares me
is the movies are starting to pickup steam. They are, Yeah,
I mean even June in general,we had so we had Inside Out too,
just crushing everything. Bad Boys four, also on your squad, has
done really good business, almost hadone hundred and eighty million. I would
have never guessed it got quite thathigh, even though Bad Boys three did

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you know, around two hundred million. We also got Quiet Place Day one
out now that crossed one hundred millionmark, and Despicable Me four, you
know, chugging along, that's comingaround one hundred and fifty million. I
think it'll probably past two hundred millionthis weekend. So box office picking up
steam? What are you thinking?You see me clicking on your heels.

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You have most of your big movies, Your top of your list is out
there. Yeah, you've got aQuiet Place, Stay one, You've got
Inside Out to Bad Boys for furiosa. I think we're your top four.
Those are already in the marketplace.I still have a couple of my big
players, you know, haven't gotoff the bench yet. I've got Deadpool

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and Wolverine, like you mentioned,I got Twisters, yeah, which we
don't know what they're gonna do.But I'm behind now by a little over
six hundred million dollars. Yeah,I think you're gonna easily eclipse me,
Deadpool is gonna I mean, youknow, I'm doing the I'm doing the
crunching, Chad, the number crunching, and I'm telling you, like,

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there's no way that you don't beatme this year. There's no way unless
there was like some disaster. There'sno other way for me to win Deadpool.
That movie alone, I think isgonna take it. I think Twisters
is going to actually do better thanI thought it would. I didn't have
a lot of hopes for Twisters,but I think you know, you you
did hit the mark when you said, you know, it's got this like

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anybody can see it kind of feelto it, and I think that's gonna
help. Yeah, it's kind ofsits in the middle. I hope it
does. Like Inside Out to Business. I don't quite see that like you
do. But I'm hoping between thosetwo movies I can at least get in
striking distance of you, because Ifeel like if I can keep this close
and then it'll come down to longleg to the Back to the Future,

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Oh you know, bonus in thefinal show. As long as I'm within
striking distance, then maybe I've gota shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think you're underestimating those, SoI think you're probably gonna be there.
I could be wrong, Like Isaid, something crazy could happen.
Deadpool could make twenty dollars. Imean, I'm happy Inside Out Too is

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doing good business. But you know, it'd be nice if you just didn't
have one giant on your team everysummer, it'd be nice. It did
do fantastic, and I was like, I mean, it's still it is
still you know, tearing it up. It's like Barbarie, like people were
going back and seeing it two,three, four times. You're like,
you're going to see this movie again. I know, ye know, so

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much higher than I was like,Okay, this is probably like a four
hundred million dollar movie, and nowit's far beyond that. From a guy
who thought Pixar was dead, comeback to life in a big way.
If I would have had it,it would have made like twelve dollars like
light Year. So that's where weare now. Let's go from where we
are now to where we've been inthe past. Yeah, I'm talking about

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the box office of mister Eddie Murphy. Let's circle back a little bit.
Patrick. Yeah, so you knowthe box office. Speaking of Eddie he's
been mostly as everyone probably knows,moving mostly to streaming over the past several
years. He was a big boxoffice draw. I mean there's no doubt,
like you said, he was ahuge Hollywood star. You know,

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got his comedic chops, did somesnl became like you know, the Will
Pharohs, like the you know,the Blue Sheet. I mean, all
those guys, you know, theyyou know, made it big, but
he was the biggest, I thinkby far. And so just to give
you an idea, we ranked hisbiggest hits at the domestic box office because

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you know, we always think aboutdomestic. We're sorry for all our listeners.
We do have a lot of globallisteners. So if you guys are
ever upset with the fact that we'reonly hitting on domestic box office, you
know, feel free to reach outto us. But maybe someday we'll go
international. But you know, so, yeah, the box office, all
right. So, according to thenumbers, his top ten performers are right

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now, Shrek two from two thousandand four four hundred and forty one million,
Shrek the third from two thousand andseven three hundred and twenty two million,
Shrek two thousand and one, twohundred and sixty eight million, Shrek
forever after twenty ten. So thetop four movies all all Shreks, they're

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all over two hundred million. Thenthe next two Beverly Hills Cop one and
two from eighty four and eighty seventwo hundred and thirty four million and one
hundred and fifty three million, respectively. And then you get into Doctor Doolittle
nineteen ninety eight one hundred and fortyfour million, the Nutty Professor from ninety
six, one hundred twenty eight million, and then you get The Coming to

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America, the original one of myfavors. Okay, you call it the
Coming to America. Yeah, becauseit's the best one, nineteen eighty eight,
one hundred twenty eight million. Andthen very bottom of the list,
top ten two thousand, then NuttyProfessor two, the Clumps. I should
just say Nutty Professor to Colon.The Clumps gotta have a colon that was

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at one hundred and twenty three million. So all of those top ten all
over one hundred and twenty million,not bad, you know, because they
range several decades. I think that'swhat pops to me is you're going,
you know, from like nineteen eightyfour to twenty ten. I mean most
actors you get like five years,maybe ten years. This guy had it

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for a while. And these arepretty big numbers. You know. You
look at you look at Beverly Hillscopy in nineteen eighty four, two hundred
and thirty four million. That's prettyinsane number. Yeah, because that's not
inflated. Yeah, I take thatnumber in the box office draft this year
from a movie, and that's oneof the reasons why that movie is substantially
his most successful and the thing thatpeople remember him for, because that movie

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just rocked the world that year.I mean case in point, I was
seven years old and I saw it, so you know, there's a movie
ticket right there. So we thought, this is where it comes into play
with Thunderdome today. Let's stop fora moment. For people who might have
just jumped in, you know,tuned their dial and caught us, They're
probably like, what is Thunderdome.I don't understand this concept. I'm sorry

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for those listeners who have never pickedup a Thunderdome episode of Movies in Marketing,
because I'll tell you this is oneof my favorite parts of the series
of MoMA is pitting two whatever itis, against each other. It could
be movies, or it could beactors in a movie, it could be
characters in a movie, and webasically put them against each other. Two
man enter, one man leaves.It comes from mad Max. This is

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what this episode is usually all about. Now, this is a very unique
version of Thunderdome. Why don't youtalk a little bit about what makes today's
thunderdome unique? Shad, Yeah,this is an ultimate Thunderdome. So,
since Eddie has such a long,wide ranging career where he often plays several
characters in the same movie, wethought the most appropriate opponent for Eddie to

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face in the Thunderdome was Eddie himself. What that's insanity, insanity, complete
madness. Right. So what wehave done here today is we have constructed
an eight round ultimate Thunderdome covering themany facets of Eddie Murphy. Each of
these thunderdome will include several of Eddie'smovies, which will have to fight for

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their lives since only one winner canemerge, So in this case, many
movies enter and only one leave.So we've got eight different categories. Multiple
movies in each category will pick awinner in each of these categories. The

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key thing to take away is eachcategory is thematically tied together by the movies
that are within it. Yeah,so they might not all be together,
you know, in the timeline.They might be connected more by you know,
they what they tell us about EddieMurphy or how they connect to his
career overall. Let's start with adoozy, a real tough one. I
think we're gonna start with Superstar Eddie. The five movies in this category forty

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eight Hours Trading Places Beverly Hills Cop, The Golden Child, and Beverly Hills
Cop too. Patrick tough competition inthis one. Yeah, a lot of
heavy hitters from Eddie's peak period whenhe was on top of the world.
Do you think there's an immediate winnerwhen you look at this crop? To

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me, you kind of have togo with Beverly Hills Cop mainly because it
was the thing that a launched himinto the stratosphere and b it was a
clear winner in the box office.You know, out of all the other
movies that are on that list,Golden Child, for an example, only
did seventy nine million in eighty six, so it doesn't come close. Although

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I do like that movie and allthe movies on that list. The Superstar
y list is good. I meanTrading Places with dan Ackroyd forty eight hours,
Nick Nolty and him sharing screen time. So even though he was top
billing with him, Beverly Hills Copis the one that he's boom the head.
I can't argue with that launching.It's not a movie I'm actually in

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love with. I think Trading Placesis a much better movie. If I'm
picking my the movie I think isthe best from this or the funniest.
I think Trading Places is that.Even though I agree with you, I
think you kind of have to pickBeverly Hills Cop here. All right,
so Superstar Eddie, you know,begrudgingly you choose Beverly Hills Cop. I
say Beverly Hills Cops probably the moreaccurate pick. But I do agree with

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you, Trading Places is a greatmovie. Yeah, give this Thunderdome to
BHC. So the second bucket,the second matchup stand up Eddie. You
got Raw Eddie Murphy Raw colon usuallyColon Raw, and then you got Eddie

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Murphy Colin delirious. Both very verygood stand up comedy specials from the very
early days of Eddie Murphy. Whatdo you think here, Shad? Now,
this one's tight, obviously, justa two movie matchup in this one
real tight for me. I'm towardsRaw. It's the one I remember a
little more, just a little moreiconic. And I also looked it up.

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Highest roasting stand up comedy concert filmever released. Made fifty million in
the United States and Canada one hundredand thirty seven million adjusted for inflation.
That's how much that would have donetoday. That's crazy crazy, That is
crazy delirious. I see only madenine million, and that's just in video

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sales, so I don't know ifthat was ever released in the box office
itself. That being said, itdoesn't really matter. I still, even
though I like both of them,I would lean towards Raw. So Raw
would be my pick there, allright, So that one, we'll give
it to Raw, I think welldeserving. Let's move on to our next
Thunderdome. This one here is apretty good one too. This one's called

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multiple Eddie. These are films whereEddie plays multiple characters in We've Got Coming
to America, We've got Vampire inBrooklyn, We've got the Nutty Professor,
you've got Bowfinger, and rounding itout, we've got Norbit, one of
your favorites, I think, Patrick, what do you think multiple Eddie?

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Who's taking it home? All right? So first, just real quick before
we jump into our picks. Ifyou know anything about Eddie Murphy in these
movies, you know that he playsa lot of different characters in each movie.
Well, something I came across whenwe were researching this, which I
did not know before, is thathis affinity for playing multiple characters in films
came from his love of a Britishactor in comedic legend. Peter Sellers thought

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that was really interesting. So alittle trivia knowledge for you if you didn't
know this prior, that's a goodfun fact. So we got, you
know, coming to America, heplays four unique characters. Vampire and Brooklyn
he plays three, Nutty Professor heplays seven, seven different whole family around
the table, remember yeah, boFinger he plays two, and Norbody plays

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three. So so this is howI sort of went about this right.
One is the number of characters Iguess, two is the success of the
movie, and three how much Iliked the characters and the movie Because of
it. I like that equation.Yeah, I sort of like kept bouncing
between Coming to America and The NuttyProfessor. I think those are two of

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his most successful They both ironically madeone hundred and twenty eight million at the
box office. I know, youknow, eight years apart, and still
like, you know, going strongthere. I tend to want a side
with Coming to America. I justI like that story and I like that
movie a little bit more so I'mI think I'm gonna go ahead and go
with Coming to America. It's aclose call for me with bow Finger and

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The Nutty Professor here, which Ithink are very good fun movies with really
good Eddie Murphy performances in them.You just can't take the crown from Coming
to America. I mean, allthe characters he plays in that are so
fun. I think it's probably myfavorite Eddie Murphy movie across the board,
and maybe the funniest one. Yeah, you've got Prince Akim and then you've

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got Saul, the elderly Jewish manin the barbershop, which is like probably
one of the greatest characters he everplays. Because most people didn't know that
that was Eddie Murphy well, tystof soup. He says, there's something
wrong with the soup soup to well, you tys to soup is wrong with
the soup tool call, well you'rejust taste the soup. All right,
I'll taste the soup. Where's thespoon? Aha? So all right,

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so coming to America, we're bothin agreement there, all right, all
right, so far we're on thesame level. Yeah, yeah, we
mostly synced up here. So thisis gonna be the one where I don't
really Yeah, it's gonna be toughfor me, but it's tough. Yeah.
This one is called team Up Eddie, and this is where Eddie Murphy

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teams up with someone else in someway, shape or form. So we've
got Metro Life, Showtime, ISpy, and Tower Heist. What are
you thinking here, Shad? Thisis this is an interesting one for me.
This is a hard one. Now, this is a category. It's
almost like leftover team ups. Wehad a lot of team ups in the

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Superstar category that I think were better, So you could almost call this the
leftover team ups. Team down,Yeah, team downs. I can't say
Showtime or I Spy, I ifI saw those at some point, I
have no memory of those if Iindeed saw them, repressed memories. Yeah,

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life was him and Martin Lawrence.I remember this one kind of being
hyped up and being pretty disappointing.Metro him and Michael Rapaport. He's like
a metro cop or something. Yeah, not very good. This kind of
leads me to Tower. This isthe twenty eleven heist comedy that was kind

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of like a poor man's Oceans elevenhad Ben Stiller and Matthew Broderick. That's
almost my default pick here is TowerHeist. It's not a strong win.
Do you have another opinion here?No? I Actually I'm kind of on
the same page with you. Iliked Tower Heist. I thought it wasn't
like my favorite movie of all time. It was one of those surprises.
I didn't go into it thinking anything, and I thought it was a strong

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cast and it was an enjoyable watch. It wasn't like trying to be really
really funny or anything like that.It was just trying to be a decent
movie, and I think its succeededas that. So I'm with you.
I would probably pick Tower Heist onthat too. Well, take Tower Heist
there A winner is a winner.It emerges from the Thunderdome. So our
next category family Eddie. Eddie wellknown later in his career to kind of

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move into this family mode, youknow, make movies that his kids could
watch. So in this category,we've got Mulan, Doctor Doolittle, Shrek,
Daddy Daycare, and The Haunted Mansion. Here's where my head is.
Trek. I'll just say it's hismost successful franchise. And as much as
I love Doctor Doolittle, this onealmost doubled the box office earnings. And

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I also liked Daddy Daycare. Iliked those movies, But I think it's
Shrek. I agree with you.I think Shrek kind of runs away with
it here. We saw the boxoffice numbers. That almost doesn't tell the
whole story. The Shrek thing wasa phenomenon when it came out. Yeah,
even I was kind of like ayoung adult when Shrek came out,
and it was kind of like thisthing. You have to see Shrek,

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not just for kids. It's kindof funny, you know, it has
like this kind of like off kiltersense of humor. And I think Eddie
Murphy was kind of a big partof that. Wow, only a true
friend would be that truly honest man, I like you. You know,
it's funny you say that because Iremember they had the toys in the McDonald's.
I think my kids were of theage and we were there, and

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they wanted Donkey instead of Shrek.I think Donkey was the more lovable character
right in the whole movie. Yeah, Shrek's kind of grumpy. Yeah,
he was funny. He had morepersonality and just was more charismatic, I
think than Shrek. They marketed thatmovie around him. I think it's all
about Donkey. I don't know whyhe didn't give his own spinoff. Yeah.
So okay, so we're both manso far in line. It's easy.

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So the next category flop, Eddie, This one, you know,
goes without saying my favorite. Thisis a lot of flops. We got
Meet Dave holy Man, The Adventuresof Pluto, Nash imagine that, and
a thousand words. And if youdon't recognize any of those titles, it's

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probably because of the category we're inright now. So what do you think,
Shad. Let me say this fora guy who's had you know,
as much success as Eddie Murphy has, he's he took some swings that are
pretty far out there. Some ofthese movies on this list, I wanted
to really watch some of these.I really wanted to watch Meet Dave and
The Adventures of Pluto Nash can't findhim. You can't find any of these

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movies streaming anywhere. I think EddieMurphy's buried them. They're out there with
the et video game in the desertsomewhere. He just doesn't want them to
be seen. I think the onethat has the most bombastic reputation, it's
The Adventures of Pluto Nash m hm. It made four million dollars at the
domestic box office. Let me justsay this, though, the summary for

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that movie is amazing. In thefuture, a man struggles to keep his
lunar nightclub out of the hands ofthe mafia. I mean it's a one
sentence a okay and b lunar nightclubout of the hands of the mafia.
I mean, come on, andit's in the future, so we know
that that's you know, el primosci fi right there. What do you

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think about the description of Meet Dave? Though a crew of many sure aliens
operate a spaceship that has a humanform while trying to save their planet.
The aliens encounter a new problem astheir ship becomes smitten with an Earth woman.
I think Eddie Murphy plays the spaceship. I did not know that's what

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that movie was about. I haven'tseen that movie. No another one I'm
dying to see. I have seenthe others, though, well, I
shouldn't say that, imagine that I'ma little shaky on if I've seen that
movie. A thousand Words, thoughI like that movie. I still like
that movie. I think that's afun movie. And here's the summary for
that movie, just in case youwere wondering. After stretching the truth on

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a deal with a spiritual guru,literary agent Jack McCall finds a body tree
on his property. Its appearance holdsa valuable lesson on the consequences of every
word he speaks. I really likethat movie. For me, it's between
Adventures of Pluto, Nash and Athousand Words. If we're going by box
office numbers, obviously A thousand Wordswould win because it's the highest in this

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category in eighteen million. I meanall the other movies. Are we picking
the best flop? Well, theworst flop? That's what I'm saying,
if we're going by the best numbers, a thousand words would make it.
Just because of the premise of theAdventures of Pluto Nash, I'd say that's
the one I pick. Yeah,I think it's the most powerful flop.

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Yeah, well, then that's itright there. Four point four million dollars.
Or're rounding down to four as youwould say. I was never rounding
down, but I like that.I like that. Just round down,
you know, if it's four pointfive, you round up. If it's
under down, round Sorry, yeah, all right, well then I guess
we're both picking Pluto Nash on thatone. We are all right, Escapes

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the Thunderdome. We've only got twocategories left. This guy has a lot
of movies, right he does,talking about over fifty movies, and we're
condensing them all into this episode.So next category. Shat the next category.
This one's called Wildcard ady. Theseare movies, you know, where

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Eddie's trying something a little different,something that didn't necessarily fit with the other
things he was doing throughout his career. We've got Harlem Nights, which he
also wrote and directed. We've gotBoomerang semi you know, kind of like
raunchy romcom, the Distinguished Gentleman,a little bit of political satire in there,
dream Girls, as I mentioned,nominated for an Oscar for this one,

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and a movie nobody has ever seencalled Mister Church. I would read
you that summary, but it wouldn'tentice you to go see that movie,
so I'm not even gonna do it. Yeah, I mean, I don't
know, you know, like thetop three in this category though, are
the ones that sort of hit forme a little bit more. Harlem Knights,
Boomerang, and the Distinguished Gentleman.You and I talked about this off

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air. Distinguished Gentleman. I justliked that movie. I remember, like,
I don't know if it holds up. I haven't seen it a long
time. And this is where thewild card Eddie I think really applies to
this category two is like they're allover the board. That movie did forty
six million, or if I'm roundingup forty seven million, dream Girls at
one hundred and three, Mister Churchdid six hundred and eighty five thousand,
Boomerang did seventy million, Harlem Knightsdid sixty one million, So it's like

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kind of all over. But yeah, I'm sort of like torn between those
top three. You know, I'mnot going with the most successful. I
partially want to pick Boomerang because Ithink he's more center focused in that movie.
But I think I wouldn't want topick Harlem Knights. Interesting. There's
a lot of comedy geniuses in thatmovie, and I think he has top
billing but he shares it, buthe directed it. Yeah, I do

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remember it being very funny. Idon't know about that. No, it
doesn't hold up. So I rewatchedsome of it and the beginnings. The
beginning's pretty good, but man,after that, I was like, this
is not very good. Richard Pryorlooked a little lost. I just I
don't know. I remembered it beingfunnier than what I was seeing. Here's
what I will say, though,Boomerang, I really liked. I'm trying
to impress you, you know,And no, you know, where'd you

(30:03):
get the mushroom shirt? I gotto know. Well, the secret is
you got to coordinate. Most peopledon't coordinate, so you got to that's
what you did. Yeah, whenyou saw me, you saw the mushroom
shirt. Mushroom shirt. Dang,mushroom mushroom shirt. See, you can't
stop with the mushroom shirt. Iwould want how to stop that. You
gotta keep going. Okay, nowlet me show you something. Look at
it. Oh, you got ona mushroom Gerard. Did you know your

(30:25):
pops had a mushroom belt on?Yes? But you don't stop best,
you gotta keep going. You gota mushroom ring? Yes, good idea.
Look what I got? Did yougo on the inside? What spesshroom?
Mushroom? Yes? You have thebenefit of Holly Berry in that movie
as his co lead Grace Jones,Robin Gibbons, Robin Gibbons, I mean

(30:52):
that's to Martin Lawrence is in thattoo. Yeah, Chris Rock makes an
appearance. Yeah, yeah, Icome down between Boomerang and the distinguished Gentleman.
I'd be easily swung to Boomerang.You would boomerang to Boomerang. Yeah.
That is a fun nineties movie.That's pretty different than anything else he
did. You know, he's likea player, and then the roles kind
of get reversed on him, kindof like sex comedy that he didn't really

(31:17):
do anything quite like that ever.Again, which I think that movie's pretty
funny. I even rewatched a littleof that too. And I was like,
I enjoy this. I like it. I like seeing all the people
that are in it. I rememberthat movie and enjoying it, and I
think I am with you on certainthings, like enjoying watching all those different
characters. I do know what you'resaying about Harlem Knights. You know how
sometimes comedies they have everything packed upat the front. It's almost like seeing

(31:40):
the trailer and has all the funnyparts of the movie, and then you're
like, oh, Boomerang, though, has a lot of things I think
scattered throughout. Yeah, that's gotsome more going for it. Yeah,
the story's pretty good too. We'regonna give it to Boomerang. I think
we give it to Boomerang. Allright. That's our toughest category yet.
Wild Card Eddie going to Boomerang.All right. We end up with streaming

(32:06):
Eddie, and for good reason,because most that you see of Eddie today
is all streaming. The first isDolomite is my name. We've got coming
to America, the number two America. So that's second in that franchise.
You people, Candy Cane Lane veryrecent and axel F Beverly Hills cop Colon

(32:30):
axl F Colon axl F of course. Yeah, So what do you think
here, Chad? This one's tough. This one's probably tougher than it should
be. Now there's some I thinkI've seen most, if not all these
coming to America. I was hypedfor and was I thought it started good
and then it kind of like felloff for me. You people had a

(32:51):
little bit of hype around it.That was all right, you know.
Candy Cane Lane was marginal. Isaw Dolomite is my Name, and I
actually really liked that. I thinkthis is one of Eddie's most unique while
also still being funny performances. That'sprobably, I think the best thing he's
been in recently. The probably thebiggest impact. You know, and maybe
this is recency bias is what's happeningwith AXLF. I liked it. I

(33:15):
don't know if I love it.I probably like Doldmite is my Name a
little bit more, but AXLF isprobably a little higher on the impact scale
there. What do you think here? So where are you at? You
know, from a very high level, I would say it's kind of a
three way tie for me between comingto America, Candy Cane Lane, and
axl F. But for the reasonsyou mentioned. Actually coming to America sort

(33:37):
of falls out of that running becauseI was really hyped about this movie,
kind of like Beverly Hills Cop axleF. It had this nostalgia and it
was pretty decent, but there weremoments it tried a little too hard to
do that, which brings me downto Candy Cane Lane and axle F.
And I think I like Candy CaneLane because one, it's a holiday movie,

(33:58):
something I don't think he's ever donebefore. Two it's a pretty decent
flick. The one thing that Ithought was lacking from that movie was more
of him, more of Eddie.And so this brings me back to axel
F, and I think that that'sthe winner for me because of that.
It feels a lot like the originalBeverly Hills Cop. He's in it,
he's doing his thing, and he'sfunny, and you know, he's just

(34:19):
generally you want to see him onscreen. He's got good charisma, I
think, generally speaking. Yeah,And I think that's a good point and
probably why it should take the categorymakes sense more than some of these other
movies, which are doing maybe somemore interesting things in some ways. But
this is kind of the one that'slike full Eddie, full Eddie. So
we got a lot of winners inthere. What do you think overall?

(34:42):
Overall, I mean a lot oftitles, you know, a lot of
success with this guy. We goteight movies that emerged victorious. You've got
Beverly Hills, cop Eddie, Murphy, Raw, Coming to America, Tower
Heeist, Shrek, The Adventures ofPluto, Nash, Boomerang, and axel
F. I mean, that's adecent career summary if there ever was one.

(35:07):
And there's a lot of gems insideof those categories that weren't the winners.
They're all dead. Oh they're dead. I forgot. Yeah. Yeah,
two men enter, one man leaves. What am I talking about?
Don't I know the rules of thunderAll? They're all dead? All right?

(35:28):
Well, personal picks of all themovies we just talked about, what
would you say, what would bethe one you would recommend people to watch?
You know, if you haven't watchedlike A Trading Places or Coming to
America hit those, watch those.But most people probably have already heard of
those or seen those. One thingI was, you know, looking through
this, I'm like, man,what are some things i'd like to see.

(35:50):
I know it's not supposed to begood. I'd like to watch Vampire
in Brooklyn Murphy Angela Bassett in ahorror comedy directed by Wes Craven that's kind
of interesting to me. But Ihaven't seen it, so I can't recommend
it. But I am going torecommend, like totally went all in on
that, and then you're like,but I haven't seen it, so I

(36:12):
can't recommend it. I can't recommendthat, but I haven't recommend bow Finger.
I haven't seen this, and like, I don't know whenever it came
out twenty years ago. Murphy playingdual roles which he's really good in with
Steve Martin and Heather Graham in amovie that's written by Steve Martin. This
one i'd really like to see again. I bet it's pretty interesting. You
know, it's kind of like aHollywood satire, very odd Eddie Murphy playing

(36:36):
these brothers. One's kind of nerdy, you know, one's like a Hollywood
star. This I remember being prettyfunny, but I like to see how
it holds up now. I don'tremember liking it as much as some of
his other movies, but tastes changeover time. I'd be kind of curious
to see how I would take thatin now and absorb it. Not norbit,
but absorb it. So your pickis Norbit. No, No,

(37:00):
I want to take that back.Like you said, there's some obvious choices.
You've got to go see all thebig ones. Beverly Hills, cop
and coming to him, all thoseobviously, But it's something we talked about
one one of the categories, andthat's boomerang. And here's a summary for
that one, because you know,I like the summaries. A successful executive

(37:22):
and womanizer finds his lifestyle choices haveturned back on him when his new female
boss turns out to be an evenbigger deviant than he is. Doesn't that
sound like a fun romp? Imean, I'll watch a movie about a
devian any day. Yeah, onstreaming, of course, because where else
are you gonna see it? They'renot going to re release it in the
theaters. They should. It shouldboomerang back into theaters. Oh I like

(37:46):
what you did there. Well,that's a fantastic thunderdome, A very long
one, I might add, there'sa lot of movies there, But I
mean a storied career for this guy. Yeah, we hit on almost everything.
You know, some of the sequelswe left out, but I think
for the most part, we hiton all the majors. The only thing

(38:07):
we left out of this episode wasour very rare interview with Eddie Murphy,
which you'll have to like, maybecome back and check it out on a
later episode, you know, whenwe have him on the podcast. Yeah,
he loves to come on the podcastand talk to us. It's one
of his favorite things. I thoughtyou were going to say. The only
thing we left out was my girllikes to party all the time. My

(38:30):
girl loves to party all the time. Partty all the time, potty all
the time. I mean, awesome, Eddie Murphy. Well, that's it
for this episode of Movies in Marketing. Until next time, let's fade to
black. I'll be back. He'sdone coming back.