December 12, 2024 • 46 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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ever to connect with audiences, one podcast aims to make
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Saturday Night, we're sending you back to the future.
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What we've got here is failure to communicate.
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Take a look around where across.
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All of how we might as well have good time.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I am an as I'm agent.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Holiday movie be trivia? Bam, that's today. That is this episode. Oh,
that's today. That's happening. Now, what's happening as we speak?
Chad speaking human?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Let me ask you this. The last time we did
trivia on MoMA. Do you remember what it was? I
bet you don't. I don't What was it? It was
August movie trivia August. Oh, that's right, that's trivia related
to movies that came out in the month of August.
Not as exciting as holiday movie trivia. That might have
(01:38):
been a time where we were, you know, our content
was a little dry. We're like, yeah, well, August is
a dry month. August is a dry month in terms
of movies. You know, you're not getting a lot, But
holiday movie trivia. You can play this at home, Yeah,
over the holidays with your family. You can take what
we're gonna do today on this episode and use it.
(02:02):
That's true. You can make a game of it. You
can play with your family. You can challenge your spouse,
your cousins, angry family members storming off in the middle
of Christmas Eve. It's great, It's what you want. It's
a lot like Jeopardy, but with so much at stake,
a lot more than Jeopardy where you're playing for thousands
(02:24):
of dollars.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, I mean, you're playing for interpersonal relevance in your family.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You're playing for.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Dominance really, Yeah, in the alpha hierarchy of your family.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know, show people that you're smarter than they are. Yeah,
and they are not intelligent and mainly those are just
family members. You're showing that too.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
So this is the holidays, that's what it's all about.
So today's episode we're talking about Christmas movies.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Why.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I mean, come on, we just said it, holiday movie trivia.
It's obvious. It's the holiday season once again. No matter
if you're listening to this in twenty thirty or twenty
twenty four, whatever year, you're listening to it. It's Christmas,
it's here, it's timeless.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Any you know, Christmas season, just kind of fire it up.
It'll still be good because holiday movies, you're gonna keep
watching them over and over. The same one are going
to keep bubbling.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Up, right, Yeah, And it's like a great Christmas movie
where you watch it over and over and over again.
Sometimes it gets better with age. You're like, wow, I
didn't even hear that the first time. How did I
not know that? But now you do. And unless they
get rid of Christmas altogether and holidays, it's not like
it's going to be like, oh, remember when there were
(03:41):
Christmas movies.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's always going to be there.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
And so you got this trivia to go hand in hand.
So we're doing this for you.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's all about you. It's our gift to you. So
why don't we start unwrapping it. Let's talk a little
bit about the rules of the game we're going to
play today. We've got three rounds of trivia. In each
round each player that's us, We are the players. We'll
be asking each other two questions for each round. So
(04:11):
here are the rounds. First round, box Office, second round,
IMDb third round, SoundBite, so intriguing sound bite. Yeah, person
with the most correct answers at the end of the
game wins not just the game, but the holiday season.
They win the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
That's really the test of any game is if you
can win an entire season in that game, that's how
you know you're on top.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, lot on the line here, So it's your whole
good motor, bad mood for the rest of the holiday
season here until the new year. It's kind of like
the summer movie Draft is exactly Yeah, same thing, same vibe. Yeah, well,
let me just do it.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Let's do a little jingle bell stretch to get started.
I didn't tell you I was going to this, so
I thought maybe I would just now start us off.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
With a little stretch. Okay, I'll go with you on this,
all right.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Die Hard obviously the best Christmas movie ever made. But
what do you think the take home for Diehard in
the movie theater domestically, of course, was when it came
out in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Is this This is not official? This is just practice.
This is not official. This is just practice. It's just
getting you know. It's the jingle bell stretch, is what
I'm calling it the jingle bell stretch. Okay, so that
came out and you said nineteen eighty eight. Yeah, I'm
gonna say that made seventy five million dollars. That's not bad.
That's not bad, not bad.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, that movie made eighty five, almost eighty six, So
eighty five eight, I mean ted, you're within ten.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's really good. Yeah, and that's how our first game
is kind of going to work.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, it's exactly how box office trivia works. Little information
about that movie, since you know, we're not officially making
it part of the of the game show today. Budget
was twenty eight million on that made eighty five domestically.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's pretty good, and especially if you think of the
time period right there probably weren't a lot of movies
that were hitting that one hundred million mark at that point. Yeah, respectable.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It came out in July two, so some people would say, oh,
it's not really coming out in the holiday season, but
there are actually some holiday movies that come out in
the summer.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's weird like that, and yeah, it still work. I
don't know why they do that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
The best part, and I'm going to do this a
little bit in some of my picks or my trivia.
But the tagline for this, which you know I love
to talk about, I love this. I don't know if
I've ever heard this tagline before. It will blow you
through the back wall of the theater. I've never heard
that either. Is that not the craziest tagline of any
(06:49):
movie we've ever I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It makes sense because it's Diehard.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I think it had a lot of stuff that they
tacked onto that movie, so that might not be the
only tagline, but that was one that I read the
summary four as anyone may not know. If you don't,
I'm sorry, you have to go watch us. I mean,
just put this on pause, go watch Diehard and come back,
and you will thank us because that is the primo
(07:15):
Christmas movie. But a New York City police officer tries
to save as a stranged wife and several others taken
hostage by terrorists during a Christmas party at the Nakotomi
Plaza in Los Angeles. That's the summary and clearly has
Christmas in the summary, so you know it's a Christmas movie.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean, that's the one movie that seems to really
spark a lot of debate and people like is it
or is it not a Christmas movie? It's a great movie. Yeah.
I think in your like me, we're pretty loose with
what we allow in to the Christmas movie. You know what,
we'll open the doors for a setting at Christmas time.
I'll usually accept it doesn't have to go super deep
(07:53):
into Christmas. But yeah, I usually am just like, hey,
if we got a little Christmas, if we have just
enough to be like, Okay, that's got some Christmas spirits
and Christmas vibe to it, I accept it. Yeah. I
try to be a little tighter in the trivia, but
we'll see if you can guess them. But the jingle
bell stretch, you're pretty close. I think what did we
say within how much do you need to be? Ten
(08:14):
on either side? Okay, ten on either side. Our first round,
our first game box office trivia, when you're guessing you're
going to get the movie just like that and you
have to guess, you know, if the movie made fifty million,
you have to guess either you know, within forty or sixty.
So that's like an example. So you have that kind
of like Little Wigger Room. It's kind of like a
price is Right game. Yeah, you just have to get
(08:36):
in that range. I like it, and you know, we're
not going to do you can't go over No, we
sometimes do that with things, but we're not going to
do that here because it's pretty challenging to guess the
number even to get in that range. Yeah, especially with
when you're dealing with different decades and stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And this is the holiday movie trivia. This is just fun.
This is fun in games today, all right, loose, Yeah,
it's like deer games. We're having some reindeer games today.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Definitely holiday movie that one, right, Ben Affleck Charlie's their own,
is that right, was it? Sharloy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Gary Sinise,
Oh yeah yeah. So like you, you know, I try to
keep my Christmas movies tight in definition, just to make
it fair for the game we're trying to play here. Yeah.
I try to go outside of some of the like
you know, super classics, but they were pretty like strictly
(09:26):
Christmas movies, even more so than die Hard, I would say.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
All right, so round one box office trivia. As Shad mentioned,
you know, you have to be within ten million of
the actual box office. But basically the way this works
is that each of us will provide the name of
a holiday movie and the other person has to guess
how much the movie made at the domestic box office.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You know, there's a little bit of leeway there. But
as you said, Chad.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I think this is actually really one of the most
challenging ones because, man, if it is not difficult to
figure out what's thing blindly right, we're not using the internet,
we're not we're not cheating to just guess it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's very difficult. Yeah, degree of success it's hard to
hard to gauge in some cases, especially as you go
back farther in time.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You nailed Diehard though, so the jingle bell stretch helped
it did?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Got me loose? Yeh got me loose. I'm a little
limber for this game here. So why don't you know
you gave me that one? Why don't I go first?
That's all right with you? Are you ready to?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You don't have any practice. No, you're just gonna go
right in cold. But that's perfect for the holiday season
here today. All right, your movie it's from nineteen to
ninety three, The Nightmare Before Christmas, a Halloween movie and
a Christmas movie coming together. Yeah, hmm, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I don't know on that ninety three maybe seventy five million.
You overshot it just a little bit. It's fifty million,
okay on the dot, I was gonna go with sixty
five million, but that still would have given me I
would have been watt.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
There would have been just a little bit over Yeah.
So it did good, but didn't blow anybody away. Yeah,
but a huge cult following afterwards. Oh yeah, that's become
you know, one of these movies that kind of stuck
around both at Halloween and at Christmas. And I did
see that one in the theater. Did you see that
in the theater? Yeah? What was the budget on that?
Do you know the budget for The Nightmare? Before Christmas?
(11:29):
Eighteen million?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Didn't do quite the three time rule.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But now but well if you look at worldwide, yeah,
you know I did more than that.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
So all right, well huh, so far I'm at a loss.
So I'm going to go with Crampis from twenty fifteen.
A boy who has had a bad Christmas accidentally summons
a festive demon to his family home. What do you
think that did domestically, Shad, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
To say thirty five million, maybe too high. I go
with thirty five minutes. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
That's actually very very good. It made forty two point
seven million.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Hell, I'm in the range.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
You're in the ten million threshold, so you're on a roll,
diehard Crampis, you're rocking those out. Interesting factoid. Budget was
fifteen million on that almost made the three times rule
we always talk about. I like the tagline for Crampus,
you don't want to be on his list. Not bad
and a fun fact which I've been bringing fun facts.
(12:33):
The film was originally to be released on November twenty
fifth because it was released on December fourth, but they
pushed it back to coincide with cramp Schnushnat Crampi is
schnot Crampish knocked enough. I don't know how you say that.
A traditional Austrian festival held on December fifth that celebrates
the Crampis coming to punish naughty children. I thought that
(12:56):
was interesting they pushed a movie premiere back to coincide
with an actual festival.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I do like the idea of Crampis. I like the
idea of an anti Santa Claus mm hmm. You have
this guy who like gives and is like rewarding. I
like the idea of somebody who's like the antithesis of that,
he's like coming to get you more bad behavior. I
think about that movie, and I'm like, I kind of
remember seeing it, or maybe I watched part of it.
(13:24):
They must not have done that well with that monster design,
and I don't know, maybe they released some like direct
to cable, direct to streaming sequels or something like that.
I feel like there should be ten parts to that,
including a Crampus Versus Santa Claus. You know, they should
be coming out with one of those every year, Like
that should be a series of pretty popular murder at
(13:46):
Christmas movies. I don't know why this didn't become like
a Nightmare on Elm Street or something.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, you're right, though, it's definitely worthy of it. And
this one is a I think it's a solid movie.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Did you see this one? I know I watched some
of it. I don't don't know if I like finished it,
but I remember the beginning of it. I remember like
cramp is coming, that part of it nicely made, nicely
put together. It's solid. It's solid. What else you got?
Let me give you your next one. Your Next One
is a two thousand and seven comedy starring Vince Vaughn
(14:19):
called Fred Clause, not Clause, like your fingers are Claus
like Santa Claus. Right, So this is Fred Klaus, Santa's
bitter older brother, is forced to move to the North
Pole and help Santa and the elves prepare for Christmas
in exchange for cash. And that has Paul Giamani in it,
(14:43):
doesn't it? I think so is he Santa? I think
he's Santa. Have you seen this movie?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I remember this movie. Okay, do you see at the theater?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I don't know if I saw at the theater. I
think I might have.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Rented it with the Red Box. Yeah, like red Box.
I'm going to say forty five million. II, you're close,
but now you're just under Oh really it made more
than forty five million. It made more. It made seventy
two million.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I'm like, on the opposite, if I would have guessed opposites,
I would have been perfect on it.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I know you would have got If you would have
guessed your nightmare before Christmas number here and this number there,
you would have been dead on seventy two million. This
movie not a hit. One hundred million dollar budget on
this one. Oh wow. Yeah, so they spent a lot
probably a lot more than you needed to on this
movie and did not do well worldwide. I think the
(15:37):
total international plus domestic was just under one hundred million.
So blop, big flop, Fred Klaus doesn't mean it's not good. Yeah,
I can't speak to it. Oh you never saw it? No.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I think this was about the time that you know,
Vince Vaughn was still kind of in the limelight. You know,
he had the Wedding Crashers and all those popular movies then.
But yeah, this one didn't fare too well apparently, all right,
so my next one, Christmas with the Cranks from two
thousand and.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Four, Christmas with the Cranks from two thousand and four.
I also feel like this is a movie that did
not make very much money. Never seen it. So I'm
gonna say two thousand and four movies, or even if
they're bad, still making decent money. I'm gonna give this
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one twenty six million dollars.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Oh, your streak has ended, my friend. Ah, seventy three million?
What yeah, seventy three point seven million. Technically way off.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So this is a hit, is it? Well, it's technically
a flop.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Budget with sixty why why are these seventy three it's
not three times.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I don't know why they spend so much money to
make these Some of these movies.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Well, you know, like I'm guessing because Jamie Lee, Curtis,
Tim Allen. Maybe that costs a lot of money, you know,
to have them, to pay them to be in the movie.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't. I don't know summary if you want it.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
With their daughter Blair away in Peru, Luther and Nora
Crank decide to skip Christmas all together until she decides
to come home at the last minute, causing an uproar
when they have to celebrate it at the last minute.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
That doesn't sound like a movie plot.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It's actually kind of silly. It was made for people
who are sort of like empty nesters, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
And oh yeah, if.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
So and so came home, it would be crazy and
I'd have to do all these things to get the
house ready.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh my god, we got to do Christmas now because
Blair's back from Peru.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
The whole Peru angle is like, did it need to
be Peru? I don't. I mean, I don't know why
it wouldn't. Christmas with the Cranks. I don't know if
I'm gonna put that one on my list this year,
especially after it scorned me. After I was going to
sweep the round, you were going to sweep it. But
we end round one. I've got one point, you've got zero,
So I don't know if either one of us blew
(18:08):
that away. That's pretty challenging. It's tough. Coming up with
the number out of the blue is the hardest part. Now.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I don't know if it would be harder or easier,
but maybe next time we do it, we give three
numbers and it's multiple choice, and you could pick from
that and then at least you'd have like one in
three chance of getting it right.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, you know what I mean. I always think about
multiple choice and then I'm like, it's multiple choice too easy.
We could expand the window.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Well, if you did multiple choice, if the other person
knows that it was a successful movie and the multiple choice,
you know, it gives you an option, then you would
then it would be easy. But if you keep it
kind of close.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, if you're like, did this make fifty five, fifty
six or fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Million dollars and you have to be dead on the money, Huh, what.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Are you ready for the next round?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I am, yeah, I'm ready to come back, hopefully, and
I can do something here in the second round.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
What's our next round?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
So round two is the IMDb description. And here's how
this one works, listeners, one person, meaning Shadder myself, will
read the IMDb description of a holiday movie, and the
other person has to guess what movie it is. This
one might be easy. I think I made these pretty
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easy for Shad, but you know, we'll see. It's a
little easier when you know them sometimes and when you
hear it and you're like, oh god, I don't know,
because there's a lot of movies that sound the same,
especially when it comes to the holidays.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I didn't pick any Hallmark movies because those they all
literally are the same movie, just remade over and over again.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So that should help you. Wick sidebar, have you seen
this Netflix movie? I'm assuming you haven't watched it, but
you don't even say it. Don't even say it.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I came home to them watching it, Oh no, this
last week. Yes, people were watching it in my house.
Oh god, in your home, where you sleep, where I sleep.
For the listeners out there, if you don't know what
movie we're talking about right now, and maybe this is
you're listening to this ten years from now. It was
called Hot Frosty.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I just all I had to see was the title
in the picture, and I was like, what has happened
to our society? So so dumb?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
The premise was dumb. It almost felt like they all
knew that this was the most absurd movie. I mean, okay,
let's get something straight. I cried at the movie with
Michael Keaton where he was the snowman.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Oh well, that movie's sad.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, and that movie's absurd, but I like, I remember
that was a tear jerker of a movie. Like that
movie had heart. This movie had none of that shad anyway.
So the IMDD description you want to go for it?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You want to Yeah, I'll do mine. First. We've done
some of these in the past, and it's kind of
fun because some of these are kind of crazy. But
you get into the holiday movies, it's kind of tough
to find one you don't know, just because these movies
are so familiar to us. I kind of try to
pick what I consider an easy one and a slightly
harded one. So I'm going to give you what I
think is the layup first. So here we go. Here's
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your IMDb description. When an elite team of mercenaries breaks
into a family compound on Christmas Eve, disgruntled Santa Claus
must take them out to save both the hostages and
his holiday. I think it's violent night. It is twenty
twenty two. Is violent night? I know that one.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yes, I got one. I finally got one.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
You're in the games.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
This is, you know, a decent watch for anybody who
likes action movies.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Very yeah, very wink wink. It's fun. Yeah about Santa
fifty million dollars box offices on that one. By the way,
I don't know if I would have guessed that high.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, because that came out twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
A little past pandemic, but still yeah, bubble, it's still.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
A little weird in twenty twenty two. All right, So
my first one for you is a snobbish investor and
a wiley street conn artists find their positions reversed as
part of a bet by two callous millionaires.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Ah, I know what this is. You know, some would
say is it a Christmas movie? I would definitely say
it is. It's definitely got a solid Christmas setting. Ah.
This is trading places just talked about recently on our
Eddie Murphy review.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
You know of his career. Yeah, in every list it's
a Christmas movie. It's listed on just every Christmas movie list. Domestic.
It did ninety million budget. It was fifteen million estimated.
If that's any We're close did Gangbusters. I really like
the tagline of this one. They're not just getting rich,
they're getting even Probably.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
My favorite Eddie Murphy movie, this is one I'd like
to really re watch.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I could watch this every year. This one is so good.
You know, him and dan Aykright are great in this
fun fact about this movie, which I don't know people
who are Eddie Murphy fans. The two older millionaires that
are in this Randolph and Mortimer, which I love their names.
They make cameo appearances in Coming to America, which is
like five years later in eighty eight. Yeah, they're playing
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their characters from this movie and they're now homeless in
Prince Akim, who is Eddie Murphy, gives them a large
amount of money to get them off the streets, which.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I think is great, and they're like, we're back. Yeah.
So fun fact.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I was trying to find little things like that. I
don't know if you know that as a listener, but
kind of cool, great movie, you should check it out.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah. I was a little surprised to see how many,
you know, lists of Christmas movies actually had this on
there as like a key one. And then I remembered
there's actually a lot. I mean, there's a snowy setting,
there's I think a point where Akroyd is dressed up
like Santa Claus. Yeah, there's a lot of Christmas like
oven in throughout out. But I was surprised how many
like called that out as like a Christmas movie.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, you know, I've said this before in like past episodes.
I'm sure I have certain criteria. This is why Diehard
fits into my criteria for a Christmas movie. It has
Christmas music in it, at some point, people are talking
about Christmas. It a lot of times will have a
Santa clause or some Christmas imagery, and if you can
get those three, you're pretty good. If it's set at Christmas,
(24:29):
then that's a whole another thing too. Like in this movie,
it's snowing out, it's cold. You know, there's Christmas decorations
in the restaurants and stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That they're in. So it's like, it's.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Very Christmasy, and no matter how you look at it,
these two people have their positions reversed, and it's got
a good message about like not taking things for granted and.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Like connecting with people who are different than you. Yeah,
it's so good on so many levels. But it's also funny. Yeah,
it's very funny. All Right, we are one for one
in this category, so a little easier than the last one.
It's gonna get a little harder for you. You ready
for the description? Yes, it was a little long with
two sentences. Here we go. A farm girl nurse is
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a wounded reindeer she believes is one of Santa's, hoping
to bring him back to health and time for Christmas.
Her holiday spirit inspires those around her something her disheartened
father is having trouble understanding. I am gonna say that
is Prancer. That is Prancer, the nineteen eighty nine movie Prancer,
(25:32):
starring you know, I can't give you bonus points, but
do you know who's starred in that movie? I can
see her face. I'm not even talking about her. Do
you know who played her father in the movie? Actually,
I could see his face. His name is Sam Elliott.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Oh that's right, Yeah, Sam Elliott. That's really good.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I've never seen Prancer. I feel like I haven't seen
a lot of these.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
But Prancer I do remember kind of.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I know of it, and I've seen parts of it
because it's been around since we were kids. You think
the other reindeers are like, what the hell? Why they
call out Prancer? What about us?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
That would have been a great opportunity for a franchise sequels.
I mean, how could you not do that?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Hollywood? Well, domestic eighteen million, you know, wasn't blowing anything
away there.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
The budget was one hundred and seventy millions.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Actually five hundred million because the reindeer.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yeah, they had to breed the reindeer to be able
to talk. Yeah yeah, all right, here you go. We're
second one, Easy Money right here.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I love easy Mound. All right.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
A young man inadvertently breaks three important rules concerning his
new pet and Unleasha's a horde of milivt elevantly yoh,
elivantly mischievous, the gun mischievous monsters on a small town.
Why can't I say milevantly elevantly mischievous? Yeah, monsters, that's
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they got you with the alliteration.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, messed me up. But I know this one. This
is my current favorite Christmas movie. I love this one.
This is Gremlins.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Yeah, nineteen eighty four, another one of those Christmas movies
released in June.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, a summer summer hit.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Same actually as Trading Places the year before in eighty three.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's weird.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
They were both released on June eighth. The budget eleven
million estimated for this made one hundred and fifty three million,
So huge hit, huge hit.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah. Tagline cute, clever, mischievous, intelligent, dangerous, That's how they
did it.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
And there are all periods after those. Fun fact about
this movie. The set for Kingston Falls, where this takes place,
is the same one used for Back to the Future
the original nineteen eighty five. Both movies were filmed on
the Universal Studio backlot.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
That is interesting. I'm gonna pay more attention when I'm
looking at it. I'm gonna be like, yeah, does that
look familiar? This This is just a great movie that
just whips by and gets increasingly chaotic as it goes on.
Just love the whole setup for the movie. You know,
the three weird rules, the fact that the father brings
home this magua as a present for his son. I mean,
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it's just such an odd ball and very eighties, you
know concept, but they just went with it. Man, It's
just whips along and it's so good, and you know,
Christmas setting, we got the snow, and then Phoebe Kate
says the great monologue about her father getting basically killed
coming down the chimney for sending to me Santa Claus. Yeah,
(28:36):
which is an all timer, one of the best moments
in movies of all time.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah. I mean, it's a fantastic movie. I saw this
in the theater, so this is eighty four, now you did.
I was seven. A family friend, gentleman, took me to
see this movie with him and a friend of his,
and I was terrified of this movie. I'm seven, you know. Yeah,
it scared me so oh bad. I remember being in
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the theater and like having my eyes closed, like having
my hands over my eyes, and I was crying.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I vividly remember this. Why it's seven, because I feel
like it's seven. I probably saw way worse things by
this point, but this movie terrified me. Yet it is
one of my favorites, Like it's so to me, it's
it's got this nostalgic aspect that does not line up
with my first experience, you know what I mean, Like
(29:28):
I remember it fondly because over time it's like the
first time you go to one haunted house, you're kind
of scared, but then you're like, oh, this is cake
and you know it's fun.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, I'm surprised you got past that. It is, you know,
one of those eighties PG kind of violent movies. It's
one of the movies that led to the creation of
PG thirteen. Yeah, and it's it's tough because it's a
horror movie. It's Christmas.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
There's a lot of these out there, you know. It's
like my Crampus on the list, Right, It's kind of dark,
has undertone to.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
It, but it feels good at the end. There's a
good resolution. Usually with Christmas movies that are dark. Yeah,
it's a good opportunity to like, let's take this cheery
season and kind of like turn it on its head.
Plus we don't get that too much in Gremlins, but
blood just looks really good on that white snow.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
They always use that as the as the reminder that
the purity of snow can be tainted by human sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Right, all right? After the second round, I'm still up
by one. It's three to two. We both crushed that one. No,
that was much easier than the box office trivia. So
now our third round, Patrick, what do we got? So?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Third round is sound bite? And here's how this round works.
Each person will share a sound bite from a holiday
movie and the other person has to guess the movie
based on the sound bite. There's no specific length that
we chose. You can choose any length of the SoundBite
you want, and we're gonna play it for each other,
and then the person has to guess. If you don't
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guess correctly, you'll yes.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
All right, So I guess I'll kick things off. Holiday
movie mystery clip one. Okay, all right, are you ready?
I am all right? Here we go.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Some of us are endeavoring to raise a fund for
the poor and the homeless.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
What may I put you down for nothing?
Speaker 5 (31:26):
You wish to remain anonymous.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I wish to be left alone.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I do not make marry myself for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
That certainly is true, and.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I cannot afford to make idle people know that is
certainly not true.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Don't you have other things to do this afternoon, my
dear nephew.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Sadly I do, Uncle, so I shall make my donations
and leave you to make yours. Thank you so very much. Uncle,
Come and have Christmas dinner with me and Clara tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Whyever did you get married?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Why?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Because I feel enough.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
That's the only thing in the world's chillier than a
merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's no use, Uncle, I shall keep my Christmas humor
to go last. A Merry Christmas to you, and a
happy New Year.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Merry Christmas, bread, Merry Christmas. Bob, I'm back.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Nothing, sir about the donation.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well, now, let's see. I know how to treat the poor.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
My taxes go to pay for the prisons and the poorhouses.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
The homeless must go there.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So is that muppet Christmas Carol? Yeah, okay, yeah, let's
see nineteen ninety two. Of course, the voice of Michael
Caine along with Beaker and Bunsen.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, those voices were thrown me off. I was like,
what the hell am I listening to you?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
You might have heard a little.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I was like, that voice of Bunsen. Isn't that to
sign of the Beaker? And Beaker is the guy who's
like me beat me.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
But the other guy who was like talking to Michaelcaine,
I was like, what am I listening to right now?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
And then it dawned on me, clearly that's a Muppet.
Good one. Nailed that one though, you knew it right away.
They appreciate your Muppet knowledge. That movie twenty seven million
at the box office. That's when the Muppets popularity was
starting to die down. It was twenty seven twenty seven
million domestic. Yeah, twelve million dollar budget, so not the worst,
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but you know, the Muppets just they didn't have their
their power at that point.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, poor Muppets. They came back a little bit that
one with Jason Segel.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
They're doing all right. They're still still popular enough. All right,
you ready, I think so one. Two?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Have you any idea how many cats there are around
this country?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
No?
Speaker 5 (33:55):
I don't have those, No, twenty seven million. Do you
know how many dogs in America? Forty eight million?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
We spend four billion dollars on pet food alone. Four
Now I have here a study from Hampstead University which
shows us that cats and dogs are beginning to watch television. Now,
these scientists are right, you should start programming right now. Well,
in twenty years they could become study viewers programming for cats.
(34:27):
Fuck with me, Frank.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
All right, I got it. That is the unmissible Bill
Murray and of course scrooged Scrooge. Duh, yeah that's true.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Nineteen eighty eight, eighty eight, a selfish, cynical television executive
is haunted by three spirits bearing lessons on Christmas Eve.
This did sixty million domestic estimated thirty two million dollar budget.
Really good Christmas movie. Here's a great tagline I did
not know was the tagline for this movie. Bill Murray
(35:03):
is back among the ghosts, only this time it's three
against one. I thought that's a really crazy tagline that
they used. It's in reference to obviously Ghostbusters, right, everybody
loved him in Ghostbusters. Two hundred and forty three million
dollars for that movie, so you know that, like it
didn't have quite the pull clearly because this is a
(35:23):
little later.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But man, so good, so good. I can distinctly remember
when this movie came out, you know, being a young
lad and wanting to see this because of the ads,
because of the commercials they played, even because of the
print ads in the newspaper.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
This movie has a special place in my heart, you know,
because it's I think it's just a great Christmas movie.
It's the best version of a Christmas Carol in my mind,
you know, like I get bored with a Christmas Carol,
but this one, you know, it's fun. It whips by
so fast, it's an easy watch. And yet all kinds
of good, funny thing happened in this movie. Great actors,
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fun fact on this movie. I don't know if you
knew this. Filming began in December of nineteen eighty seven,
so almost one year prior to it coming out. With
Christmas approaching, director Richard Donner asked if the production could
have Christmas Day off because it began filming in December, right,
But Paramount Pictures the executives refused, insisting that the film
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should continue on Christmas Day. So what did Richard Donner do?
He fired the entire cast and crew at the end
of the day on December twenty fourth, and then two
days later, on the twenty six he rehired everyone, and
the break allowed the cast and the crew members to
spend Christmas with their families. That's how you stick it
(36:48):
to the man. When they tell you. No.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
It's funny. A movie that's kind of I guess, kind
of about like, yeah, not being grady and stuff around Christmas.
They're kind of living the opposite. It's an interesting movie too.
I watched it with my son last year or two
years ago or something like that. It's pretty dark. Yeah,
it's a good one. Glad we got a little little
scrooged in there. All right, here we go. You ready ready,
(37:14):
here's your mystery Holiday movie clip number two. This one's
a little higher. See what you can do?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
What does this mean?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Da enters in his bathroom.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Sweet Jimmy, the whole record in the morning.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Is killing my joint. Brag'll get the shovel.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Oh no, no, I listened to me when Alicia came totally
ruined everything.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know what I mean, right, because everything was just
so normal up until that point.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
So let's see four for four.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
So I realized what I had to do was expand
the family to get my real family.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Had to find my grandpa. So I went and found
my Duda. Here he is my Duda.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Your DUDEA looks exactly like the guy we saw Christmas.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Carol played Scrooge that's right.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I do a lot of community theater, and this Christmas
night I'm pre seen my roller school in the Lincoln
with Theater Group's production.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
It's a Christmas Carol. I hope you all to make it.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Please stay in character, Saul.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Okay, Dudah, I'm so glad that you came here and
you're gonna stay for the whole Christmas holiday.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I agreed to let you in the house. Not a
Dodo over here, Duda. Nobody's talking to you. All right, Look,
I'll give you twenty five thousand dollars. How you doing that, Duda?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Nice to see you again.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
You can stay in a living room, No, no doubt, Dad,
I'm sleeping in the living room anymore.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
All Right, man, I'm trying to think of this movie.
It's Ben Affleck. I want to say it's Trapped in Paradise.
It's not trapped in Paradise, but you're I feel like
you're in the in that that ballpark the comedy. Yeah
it's And it's got the dude from the Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I think he's the dad, James Gandolfini. Yeah, m hm.
And the mom is the mom. What's your name? From
Home Alone. Yeah, Catherine O'Hara.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, God, I can't think of the name of that movie.
I can't think of the name. I know the movie, though.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Like, have you seen the movie?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah, I've seen the movie. They all kind of like
blur together, the names blur together. I don't know why
I can't remember that one. It's yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I don't know. Without cheating, I can't. I can't come
over that. This was a tough one. This is the
two thousand and four movie Surviving Christmas. You nailed all
the actors.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
So I should get like points for knowing what the
movie is.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Like half a point for like getting around the edges. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I just couldn't name the movie. I could name everything else.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, that's all right. I think you did better than
ninety percent of people would probably do. This movie was
a flop when it came out, made eleven million at
the domestic box office twenty five million dollar budget. This
was when Ben Affleck was kind of on his downswing.
You know, he got popular and then he made a
bunch of movies that did not do well, and this
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was one of them. Let's getting a little bit of
a revival. I think it's one of those ones that
people are kind of like, well, maybe it's better than
we got. Yeah, I mean Christmas movies tend to have
that effect. I feel like, yeah, they do because people
are always looking for new ones. And I feel like
as an actor, it's kind of a box you got
to check or you want to check. You're like, I
got to be a Christmas movie because then it can
(40:32):
play for decades and I'll maybe get some residual money
from that as it keeps airing or getting streamed a
year after year after year.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
I mean, it's not unlike music stars. You got to
make a Christmas album, Yeah, get a hit.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
So keeps getting those replays. Yeah, that's a good one.
That's a good pick. And you got me on that.
It was a deep cuts, a deep cut.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Look what you did, your little jerk, all right? So
I have my second ready for you.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I'm hear it. The bee and.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
The bells seem to say throw kissl dear sinner. The
last time I wrote to you, I was eight years old.
That was more than twenty five years ago. I know
it's been a long time, but you're my last hope.
I just don't know who else to turn to you
see this year for Christmas, I want the same things
(41:28):
I've always wanted, Peace on earth, goodwill towards men, and
a jet, A big, fat, silver giant Jumbo seven seven jet.
Shut up, I'm talking here.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I don't know if I know what that is. Do
you want to hear it again? Why we think about this?
Speaker 4 (41:51):
I don't know why I thought you would get this
right away.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah. It's almost not even bringing any bells, ringing any
bells quote unquote. So that's Dennis Leary, right, I'm thinking
it is Dennis Leary. Yeah, okay, I don't know. It's
a demolition man. I didn't do you dirty, like picking
(42:15):
a non Christmas movie. That's all I got for a guess.
This is the movie. The ref a wraf. I don't
know if I've ever seen the ref, but I know
the ref.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
For listeners out there. The summary of this is a
cat burglar is forced to take a bickering, dysfunctional family
hostage on Christmas Eve. So clearly a Christmas movie. Nineteen
ninety four.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
So this is from the nineties. It's from peak Dennis
Leary time.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Who else than that Kevin Spacey is in this. Judy
Davis JK.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Simmons.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Domestically, this movie did eleven million, so it wasn't a
huge hit. The budget was estimated eleven million. But the
fun fact that I brought out for this one was
this was the film debut of JK. Simmons, who everybody
usually knows.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Oh, it seems like he's been around a lot longer
than that, But how was it. JK.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Simmons also plays Santa in The Red One that just
came out.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Which looks like it might be one of the worst
holiday movies ever made.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
It's being donned as the best holiday movie ever made.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I just heard it on the radio today. According to
the makers.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
According to the I Don't Know the Universe, oring to
the Rock according to the Rocks publicist, it does look fun.
It does look like it might be fun. It's like
the Christmas Chronicles on Netflix. Like it wasn't like anything super,
but it was kind of fun seeing Kurt Russell as
you know, Santa Claus.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, that one was okay. That one was like more
of a work gear toward kids type of movie. I
think this one is too, isn't that It kind of
is I don't know. It has more of like a
whippy bloody type does it. That's what I feel like
Chris Evans in The Rock, that they're trying to do something.
Oh but oh buddy, I thought you bloody. No, no, no, okay,
(44:02):
bloody Like yeah, we're like jabbing each other. And I
thought the CGI stuff looked terrible.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
I'd like to see JK. Simmons as Santa. I think
that's kind of interesting. I like when they just kind
of throw somebody in there that you don't expect. Santa
always looks the same, like Paul Giomanni as Santa.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yeah, No, that's good. That's a good idea. We'll see
if red One. You know, how that stands up in
a few years. I feel like it might sink like
a stone, and I think the Rock needs to look
at what he's doing. I like what you did there.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Are you saying this sinking like a stone or sinking
like a rock? Or are you saying okay, I got you.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I like that. It's good. Yeah, that felt so natural.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
The way you said it too, is like you intended
it to come off that amazing, because it felt amazing
the way you said it, it's.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
How I roll.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Well, you're clearly the winner in this today. You're barely
this whole year though.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I mean, it's I'm sad to let twenty twenty four
go next year. I'm coming back. I'm concerned you're gonna
have more fire. But I only won by one. It
was four to three. One. Box office is what made
the difference.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Yeah, those were hard. I'm not gonna lie. Guessing the
number is hard. But I really do like the sound
bites because there's a little bit more to it. And
for our listeners, I feel like you guys get a
lot out of it because.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
You hear it.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
You're probably playing along, you're thinking about it, you might
be stumped, or you might be getting it right off
the bat like we did or didn't.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, that is fun.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Yeah, So we hope you got a lot of out
of today's episode, and maybe take a look at those
because I think a lot of those are good recommendations. Honestly,
the ones on our list today.
Speaker 6 (45:41):
I think it's worth checking out, you know, trying to
find trying to find something new, you know what I mean,
You're gonna watch the classics anyway, so check out, you know,
go to something maybe second tier off the beaten path
a little bit. You know, you're gonna watch your home
alone or you it's a wonderful life for something like that.
Get your classics in and then be like, Okay, let's
watch some Surviving Christmas or some Scrooge or something. You know,
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something we don't typically watch. Maybe a little violent night.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
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Speaker 1 (46:11):
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Speaker 1 (46:19):
Of that movie that you watched for the holidays. But
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
What we've got here is failure to communicate.
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Take a look around where across.
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
I am an as I'm agent.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Holiday movie be trivia? Bam, that's today. That is this episode. Oh,
that's today. That's happening. Now, what's happening as we speak?
Chad speaking human?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Let me ask you this. The last time we did
trivia on MoMA. Do you remember what it was? I
bet you don't. I don't What was it? It was
August movie trivia August. Oh, that's right, that's trivia related
to movies that came out in the month of August.
Not as exciting as holiday movie trivia. That might have
(01:38):
been a time where we were, you know, our content
was a little dry. We're like, yeah, well, August is
a dry month. August is a dry month in terms
of movies. You know, you're not getting a lot, But
holiday movie trivia. You can play this at home, Yeah,
over the holidays with your family. You can take what
we're gonna do today on this episode and use it.
(02:02):
That's true. You can make a game of it. You
can play with your family. You can challenge your spouse,
your cousins, angry family members storming off in the middle
of Christmas Eve. It's great, It's what you want. It's
a lot like Jeopardy, but with so much at stake,
a lot more than Jeopardy where you're playing for thousands
(02:24):
of dollars.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, I mean, you're playing for interpersonal relevance in your family.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You're playing for.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Dominance really, Yeah, in the alpha hierarchy of your family.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know, show people that you're smarter than they are. Yeah,
and they are not intelligent and mainly those are just
family members. You're showing that too.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
So this is the holidays, that's what it's all about.
So today's episode we're talking about Christmas movies.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Why.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I mean, come on, we just said it, holiday movie trivia.
It's obvious. It's the holiday season once again. No matter
if you're listening to this in twenty thirty or twenty
twenty four, whatever year, you're listening to it. It's Christmas,
it's here, it's timeless.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Any you know, Christmas season, just kind of fire it up.
It'll still be good because holiday movies, you're gonna keep
watching them over and over. The same one are going
to keep bubbling.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Up, right, Yeah, And it's like a great Christmas movie
where you watch it over and over and over again.
Sometimes it gets better with age. You're like, wow, I
didn't even hear that the first time. How did I
not know that? But now you do. And unless they
get rid of Christmas altogether and holidays, it's not like
it's going to be like, oh, remember when there were
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Christmas movies.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's always going to be there.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
And so you got this trivia to go hand in hand.
So we're doing this for you.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's all about you. It's our gift to you. So
why don't we start unwrapping it. Let's talk a little
bit about the rules of the game we're going to
play today. We've got three rounds of trivia. In each
round each player that's us, We are the players. We'll
be asking each other two questions for each round. So
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here are the rounds. First round, box Office, second round,
IMDb third round, SoundBite, so intriguing sound bite. Yeah, person
with the most correct answers at the end of the
game wins not just the game, but the holiday season.
They win the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
That's really the test of any game is if you
can win an entire season in that game, that's how
you know you're on top.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, lot on the line here, So it's your whole
good motor, bad mood for the rest of the holiday
season here until the new year. It's kind of like
the summer movie Draft is exactly Yeah, same thing, same vibe. Yeah, well,
let me just do it.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Let's do a little jingle bell stretch to get started.
I didn't tell you I was going to this, so
I thought maybe I would just now start us off.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
With a little stretch. Okay, I'll go with you on this,
all right.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Die Hard obviously the best Christmas movie ever made. But
what do you think the take home for Diehard in
the movie theater domestically, of course, was when it came
out in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Is this This is not official? This is just practice.
This is not official. This is just practice. It's just
getting you know. It's the jingle bell stretch, is what
I'm calling it the jingle bell stretch. Okay, so that
came out and you said nineteen eighty eight. Yeah, I'm
gonna say that made seventy five million dollars. That's not bad.
That's not bad, not bad.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, that movie made eighty five, almost eighty six, So
eighty five eight, I mean ted, you're within ten.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's really good. Yeah, and that's how our first game
is kind of going to work.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, it's exactly how box office trivia works. Little information
about that movie, since you know, we're not officially making
it part of the of the game show today. Budget
was twenty eight million on that made eighty five domestically.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's pretty good, and especially if you think of the
time period right there probably weren't a lot of movies
that were hitting that one hundred million mark at that point. Yeah, respectable.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It came out in July two, so some people would say, oh,
it's not really coming out in the holiday season, but
there are actually some holiday movies that come out in
the summer.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's weird like that, and yeah, it still work. I
don't know why they do that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
The best part, and I'm going to do this a
little bit in some of my picks or my trivia.
But the tagline for this, which you know I love
to talk about, I love this. I don't know if
I've ever heard this tagline before. It will blow you
through the back wall of the theater. I've never heard
that either. Is that not the craziest tagline of any
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movie we've ever I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It makes sense because it's Diehard.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I think it had a lot of stuff that they
tacked onto that movie, so that might not be the
only tagline, but that was one that I read the
summary four as anyone may not know. If you don't,
I'm sorry, you have to go watch us. I mean,
just put this on pause, go watch Diehard and come back,
and you will thank us because that is the primo
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Christmas movie. But a New York City police officer tries
to save as a stranged wife and several others taken
hostage by terrorists during a Christmas party at the Nakotomi
Plaza in Los Angeles. That's the summary and clearly has
Christmas in the summary, so you know it's a Christmas movie.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean, that's the one movie that seems to really
spark a lot of debate and people like is it
or is it not a Christmas movie? It's a great movie. Yeah.
I think in your like me, we're pretty loose with
what we allow in to the Christmas movie. You know what,
we'll open the doors for a setting at Christmas time.
I'll usually accept it doesn't have to go super deep
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into Christmas. But yeah, I usually am just like, hey,
if we got a little Christmas, if we have just
enough to be like, Okay, that's got some Christmas spirits
and Christmas vibe to it, I accept it. Yeah. I
try to be a little tighter in the trivia, but
we'll see if you can guess them. But the jingle
bell stretch, you're pretty close. I think what did we
say within how much do you need to be? Ten
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on either side? Okay, ten on either side. Our first round,
our first game box office trivia, when you're guessing you're
going to get the movie just like that and you
have to guess, you know, if the movie made fifty million,
you have to guess either you know, within forty or sixty.
So that's like an example. So you have that kind
of like Little Wigger Room. It's kind of like a
price is Right game. Yeah, you just have to get
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in that range. I like it, and you know, we're
not going to do you can't go over No, we
sometimes do that with things, but we're not going to
do that here because it's pretty challenging to guess the
number even to get in that range. Yeah, especially with
when you're dealing with different decades and stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And this is the holiday movie trivia. This is just fun.
This is fun in games today, all right, loose, Yeah,
it's like deer games. We're having some reindeer games today.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Definitely holiday movie that one, right, Ben Affleck Charlie's their own,
is that right, was it? Sharloy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Gary Sinise,
Oh yeah yeah. So like you, you know, I try to
keep my Christmas movies tight in definition, just to make
it fair for the game we're trying to play here. Yeah.
I try to go outside of some of the like
you know, super classics, but they were pretty like strictly
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Christmas movies, even more so than die Hard, I would say.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
All right, so round one box office trivia. As Shad mentioned,
you know, you have to be within ten million of
the actual box office. But basically the way this works
is that each of us will provide the name of
a holiday movie and the other person has to guess
how much the movie made at the domestic box office.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You know, there's a little bit of leeway there. But
as you said, Chad.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I think this is actually really one of the most
challenging ones because, man, if it is not difficult to
figure out what's thing blindly right, we're not using the internet,
we're not we're not cheating to just guess it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's very difficult. Yeah, degree of success it's hard to
hard to gauge in some cases, especially as you go
back farther in time.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You nailed Diehard though, so the jingle bell stretch helped
it did?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Got me loose? Yeh got me loose. I'm a little
limber for this game here. So why don't you know
you gave me that one? Why don't I go first?
That's all right with you? Are you ready to?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You don't have any practice. No, you're just gonna go
right in cold. But that's perfect for the holiday season
here today. All right, your movie it's from nineteen to
ninety three, The Nightmare Before Christmas, a Halloween movie and
a Christmas movie coming together. Yeah, hmm, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I don't know on that ninety three maybe seventy five million.
You overshot it just a little bit. It's fifty million,
okay on the dot, I was gonna go with sixty
five million, but that still would have given me I
would have been watt.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
There would have been just a little bit over Yeah.
So it did good, but didn't blow anybody away. Yeah,
but a huge cult following afterwards. Oh yeah, that's become
you know, one of these movies that kind of stuck
around both at Halloween and at Christmas. And I did
see that one in the theater. Did you see that
in the theater? Yeah? What was the budget on that?
Do you know the budget for The Nightmare? Before Christmas?
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Eighteen million?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Didn't do quite the three time rule.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But now but well if you look at worldwide, yeah,
you know I did more than that.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
So all right, well huh, so far I'm at a loss.
So I'm going to go with Crampis from twenty fifteen.
A boy who has had a bad Christmas accidentally summons
a festive demon to his family home. What do you
think that did domestically, Shad, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
To say thirty five million, maybe too high. I go
with thirty five minutes. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
That's actually very very good. It made forty two point
seven million.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Hell, I'm in the range.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
You're in the ten million threshold, so you're on a roll,
diehard Crampis, you're rocking those out. Interesting factoid. Budget was
fifteen million on that almost made the three times rule
we always talk about. I like the tagline for Crampus,
you don't want to be on his list. Not bad
and a fun fact which I've been bringing fun facts.
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The film was originally to be released on November twenty
fifth because it was released on December fourth, but they
pushed it back to coincide with cramp Schnushnat Crampi is
schnot Crampish knocked enough. I don't know how you say that.
A traditional Austrian festival held on December fifth that celebrates
the Crampis coming to punish naughty children. I thought that
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was interesting they pushed a movie premiere back to coincide
with an actual festival.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I do like the idea of Crampis. I like the
idea of an anti Santa Claus mm hmm. You have
this guy who like gives and is like rewarding. I
like the idea of somebody who's like the antithesis of that,
he's like coming to get you more bad behavior. I
think about that movie, and I'm like, I kind of
remember seeing it, or maybe I watched part of it.
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They must not have done that well with that monster design,
and I don't know, maybe they released some like direct
to cable, direct to streaming sequels or something like that.
I feel like there should be ten parts to that,
including a Crampus Versus Santa Claus. You know, they should
be coming out with one of those every year, Like
that should be a series of pretty popular murder at
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Christmas movies. I don't know why this didn't become like
a Nightmare on Elm Street or something.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, you're right, though, it's definitely worthy of it. And
this one is a I think it's a solid movie.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Did you see this one? I know I watched some
of it. I don't don't know if I like finished it,
but I remember the beginning of it. I remember like
cramp is coming, that part of it nicely made, nicely
put together. It's solid. It's solid. What else you got?
Let me give you your next one. Your Next One
is a two thousand and seven comedy starring Vince Vaughn
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called Fred Clause, not Clause, like your fingers are Claus
like Santa Claus. Right, So this is Fred Klaus, Santa's
bitter older brother, is forced to move to the North
Pole and help Santa and the elves prepare for Christmas
in exchange for cash. And that has Paul Giamani in it,
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doesn't it? I think so is he Santa? I think
he's Santa. Have you seen this movie?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I remember this movie. Okay, do you see at the theater?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I don't know if I saw at the theater. I
think I might have.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Rented it with the Red Box. Yeah, like red Box.
I'm going to say forty five million. II, you're close,
but now you're just under Oh really it made more
than forty five million. It made more. It made seventy
two million.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I'm like, on the opposite, if I would have guessed opposites,
I would have been perfect on it.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I know you would have got If you would have
guessed your nightmare before Christmas number here and this number there,
you would have been dead on seventy two million. This
movie not a hit. One hundred million dollar budget on
this one. Oh wow. Yeah, so they spent a lot
probably a lot more than you needed to on this
movie and did not do well worldwide. I think the
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total international plus domestic was just under one hundred million.
So blop, big flop, Fred Klaus doesn't mean it's not good. Yeah,
I can't speak to it. Oh you never saw it? No.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I think this was about the time that you know,
Vince Vaughn was still kind of in the limelight. You know,
he had the Wedding Crashers and all those popular movies then.
But yeah, this one didn't fare too well apparently, all right,
so my next one, Christmas with the Cranks from two
thousand and.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Four, Christmas with the Cranks from two thousand and four.
I also feel like this is a movie that did
not make very much money. Never seen it. So I'm
gonna say two thousand and four movies, or even if
they're bad, still making decent money. I'm gonna give this
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one twenty six million dollars.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Oh, your streak has ended, my friend. Ah, seventy three million?
What yeah, seventy three point seven million. Technically way off.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So this is a hit, is it? Well, it's technically
a flop.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Budget with sixty why why are these seventy three it's
not three times.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I don't know why they spend so much money to
make these Some of these movies.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Well, you know, like I'm guessing because Jamie Lee, Curtis,
Tim Allen. Maybe that costs a lot of money, you know,
to have them, to pay them to be in the movie.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't. I don't know summary if you want it.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
With their daughter Blair away in Peru, Luther and Nora
Crank decide to skip Christmas all together until she decides
to come home at the last minute, causing an uproar
when they have to celebrate it at the last minute.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
That doesn't sound like a movie plot.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It's actually kind of silly. It was made for people
who are sort of like empty nesters, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
And oh yeah, if.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
So and so came home, it would be crazy and
I'd have to do all these things to get the
house ready.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh my god, we got to do Christmas now because
Blair's back from Peru.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
The whole Peru angle is like, did it need to
be Peru? I don't. I mean, I don't know why
it wouldn't. Christmas with the Cranks. I don't know if
I'm gonna put that one on my list this year,
especially after it scorned me. After I was going to
sweep the round, you were going to sweep it. But
we end round one. I've got one point, you've got zero,
So I don't know if either one of us blew
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that away. That's pretty challenging. It's tough. Coming up with
the number out of the blue is the hardest part. Now.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I don't know if it would be harder or easier,
but maybe next time we do it, we give three
numbers and it's multiple choice, and you could pick from
that and then at least you'd have like one in
three chance of getting it right.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, you know what I mean. I always think about
multiple choice and then I'm like, it's multiple choice too easy.
We could expand the window.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Well, if you did multiple choice, if the other person
knows that it was a successful movie and the multiple choice,
you know, it gives you an option, then you would
then it would be easy. But if you keep it
kind of close.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, if you're like, did this make fifty five, fifty
six or fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Million dollars and you have to be dead on the money, Huh, what.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Are you ready for the next round?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I am, yeah, I'm ready to come back, hopefully, and
I can do something here in the second round.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
What's our next round?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
So round two is the IMDb description. And here's how
this one works, listeners, one person, meaning Shadder myself, will
read the IMDb description of a holiday movie, and the
other person has to guess what movie it is. This
one might be easy. I think I made these pretty
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easy for Shad, but you know, we'll see. It's a
little easier when you know them sometimes and when you
hear it and you're like, oh god, I don't know,
because there's a lot of movies that sound the same,
especially when it comes to the holidays.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I didn't pick any Hallmark movies because those they all
literally are the same movie, just remade over and over again.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So that should help you. Wick sidebar, have you seen
this Netflix movie? I'm assuming you haven't watched it, but
you don't even say it. Don't even say it.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I came home to them watching it, Oh no, this
last week. Yes, people were watching it in my house.
Oh god, in your home, where you sleep, where I sleep.
For the listeners out there, if you don't know what
movie we're talking about right now, and maybe this is
you're listening to this ten years from now. It was
called Hot Frosty.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I just all I had to see was the title
in the picture, and I was like, what has happened
to our society? So so dumb?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
The premise was dumb. It almost felt like they all
knew that this was the most absurd movie. I mean, okay,
let's get something straight. I cried at the movie with
Michael Keaton where he was the snowman.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Oh well, that movie's sad.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, and that movie's absurd, but I like, I remember
that was a tear jerker of a movie. Like that
movie had heart. This movie had none of that shad anyway.
So the IMDD description you want to go for it?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You want to Yeah, I'll do mine. First. We've done
some of these in the past, and it's kind of
fun because some of these are kind of crazy. But
you get into the holiday movies, it's kind of tough
to find one you don't know, just because these movies
are so familiar to us. I kind of try to
pick what I consider an easy one and a slightly
harded one. So I'm going to give you what I
think is the layup first. So here we go. Here's
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your IMDb description. When an elite team of mercenaries breaks
into a family compound on Christmas Eve, disgruntled Santa Claus
must take them out to save both the hostages and
his holiday. I think it's violent night. It is twenty
twenty two. Is violent night? I know that one.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yes, I got one. I finally got one.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
You're in the games.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
This is, you know, a decent watch for anybody who
likes action movies.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Very yeah, very wink wink. It's fun. Yeah about Santa
fifty million dollars box offices on that one. By the way,
I don't know if I would have guessed that high.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, because that came out twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
A little past pandemic, but still yeah, bubble, it's still.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
A little weird in twenty twenty two. All right, So
my first one for you is a snobbish investor and
a wiley street conn artists find their positions reversed as
part of a bet by two callous millionaires.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Ah, I know what this is. You know, some would
say is it a Christmas movie? I would definitely say
it is. It's definitely got a solid Christmas setting. Ah.
This is trading places just talked about recently on our
Eddie Murphy review.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
You know of his career. Yeah, in every list it's
a Christmas movie. It's listed on just every Christmas movie list. Domestic.
It did ninety million budget. It was fifteen million estimated.
If that's any We're close did Gangbusters. I really like
the tagline of this one. They're not just getting rich,
they're getting even Probably.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
My favorite Eddie Murphy movie, this is one I'd like
to really re watch.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I could watch this every year. This one is so good.
You know, him and dan Aykright are great in this
fun fact about this movie, which I don't know people
who are Eddie Murphy fans. The two older millionaires that
are in this Randolph and Mortimer, which I love their names.
They make cameo appearances in Coming to America, which is
like five years later in eighty eight. Yeah, they're playing
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their characters from this movie and they're now homeless in
Prince Akim, who is Eddie Murphy, gives them a large
amount of money to get them off the streets, which.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I think is great, and they're like, we're back. Yeah.
So fun fact.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I was trying to find little things like that. I
don't know if you know that as a listener, but
kind of cool, great movie, you should check it out.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah. I was a little surprised to see how many,
you know, lists of Christmas movies actually had this on
there as like a key one. And then I remembered
there's actually a lot. I mean, there's a snowy setting,
there's I think a point where Akroyd is dressed up
like Santa Claus. Yeah, there's a lot of Christmas like
oven in throughout out. But I was surprised how many
like called that out as like a Christmas movie.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, you know, I've said this before in like past episodes.
I'm sure I have certain criteria. This is why Diehard
fits into my criteria for a Christmas movie. It has
Christmas music in it, at some point, people are talking
about Christmas. It a lot of times will have a
Santa clause or some Christmas imagery, and if you can
get those three, you're pretty good. If it's set at Christmas,
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then that's a whole another thing too. Like in this movie,
it's snowing out, it's cold. You know, there's Christmas decorations
in the restaurants and stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That they're in. So it's like, it's.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Very Christmasy, and no matter how you look at it,
these two people have their positions reversed, and it's got
a good message about like not taking things for granted and.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Like connecting with people who are different than you. Yeah,
it's so good on so many levels. But it's also funny. Yeah,
it's very funny. All Right, we are one for one
in this category, so a little easier than the last one.
It's gonna get a little harder for you. You ready
for the description? Yes, it was a little long with
two sentences. Here we go. A farm girl nurse is
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a wounded reindeer she believes is one of Santa's, hoping
to bring him back to health and time for Christmas.
Her holiday spirit inspires those around her something her disheartened
father is having trouble understanding. I am gonna say that
is Prancer. That is Prancer, the nineteen eighty nine movie Prancer,
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starring you know, I can't give you bonus points, but
do you know who's starred in that movie? I can
see her face. I'm not even talking about her. Do
you know who played her father in the movie? Actually,
I could see his face. His name is Sam Elliott.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Oh that's right, Yeah, Sam Elliott. That's really good.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I've never seen Prancer. I feel like I haven't seen
a lot of these.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
But Prancer I do remember kind of.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I know of it, and I've seen parts of it
because it's been around since we were kids. You think
the other reindeers are like, what the hell? Why they
call out Prancer? What about us?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
That would have been a great opportunity for a franchise sequels.
I mean, how could you not do that?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Hollywood? Well, domestic eighteen million, you know, wasn't blowing anything
away there.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
The budget was one hundred and seventy millions.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Actually five hundred million because the reindeer.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yeah, they had to breed the reindeer to be able
to talk. Yeah yeah, all right, here you go. We're
second one, Easy Money right here.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I love easy Mound. All right.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
A young man inadvertently breaks three important rules concerning his
new pet and Unleasha's a horde of milivt elevantly yoh,
elivantly mischievous, the gun mischievous monsters on a small town.
Why can't I say milevantly elevantly mischievous? Yeah, monsters, that's
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they got you with the alliteration.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, messed me up. But I know this one. This
is my current favorite Christmas movie. I love this one.
This is Gremlins.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Yeah, nineteen eighty four, another one of those Christmas movies
released in June.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, a summer summer hit.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Same actually as Trading Places the year before in eighty three.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's weird.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
They were both released on June eighth. The budget eleven
million estimated for this made one hundred and fifty three million,
So huge hit, huge hit.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah. Tagline cute, clever, mischievous, intelligent, dangerous, That's how they
did it.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
And there are all periods after those. Fun fact about
this movie. The set for Kingston Falls, where this takes place,
is the same one used for Back to the Future
the original nineteen eighty five. Both movies were filmed on
the Universal Studio backlot.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
That is interesting. I'm gonna pay more attention when I'm
looking at it. I'm gonna be like, yeah, does that
look familiar? This This is just a great movie that
just whips by and gets increasingly chaotic as it goes on.
Just love the whole setup for the movie. You know,
the three weird rules, the fact that the father brings
home this magua as a present for his son. I mean,
(28:16):
it's just such an odd ball and very eighties, you
know concept, but they just went with it. Man, It's
just whips along and it's so good, and you know,
Christmas setting, we got the snow, and then Phoebe Kate
says the great monologue about her father getting basically killed
coming down the chimney for sending to me Santa Claus. Yeah,
(28:36):
which is an all timer, one of the best moments
in movies of all time.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah. I mean, it's a fantastic movie. I saw this
in the theater, so this is eighty four, now you did.
I was seven. A family friend, gentleman, took me to
see this movie with him and a friend of his,
and I was terrified of this movie. I'm seven, you know. Yeah,
it scared me so oh bad. I remember being in
(29:01):
the theater and like having my eyes closed, like having
my hands over my eyes, and I was crying.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I vividly remember this. Why it's seven, because I feel
like it's seven. I probably saw way worse things by
this point, but this movie terrified me. Yet it is
one of my favorites, Like it's so to me, it's
it's got this nostalgic aspect that does not line up
with my first experience, you know what I mean, Like
(29:28):
I remember it fondly because over time it's like the
first time you go to one haunted house, you're kind
of scared, but then you're like, oh, this is cake
and you know it's fun.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, I'm surprised you got past that. It is, you know,
one of those eighties PG kind of violent movies. It's
one of the movies that led to the creation of
PG thirteen. Yeah, and it's it's tough because it's a
horror movie. It's Christmas.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
There's a lot of these out there, you know. It's
like my Crampus on the list, Right, It's kind of dark,
has undertone to.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
It, but it feels good at the end. There's a
good resolution. Usually with Christmas movies that are dark. Yeah,
it's a good opportunity to like, let's take this cheery
season and kind of like turn it on its head.
Plus we don't get that too much in Gremlins, but
blood just looks really good on that white snow.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
They always use that as the as the reminder that
the purity of snow can be tainted by human sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Right, all right? After the second round, I'm still up
by one. It's three to two. We both crushed that one. No,
that was much easier than the box office trivia. So
now our third round, Patrick, what do we got? So?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Third round is sound bite? And here's how this round works.
Each person will share a sound bite from a holiday
movie and the other person has to guess the movie
based on the sound bite. There's no specific length that
we chose. You can choose any length of the SoundBite
you want, and we're gonna play it for each other,
and then the person has to guess. If you don't
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guess correctly, you'll yes.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
All right, So I guess I'll kick things off. Holiday
movie mystery clip one. Okay, all right, are you ready?
I am all right? Here we go.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Some of us are endeavoring to raise a fund for
the poor and the homeless.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
What may I put you down for nothing?
Speaker 5 (31:26):
You wish to remain anonymous.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I wish to be left alone.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I do not make marry myself for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
That certainly is true, and.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I cannot afford to make idle people know that is
certainly not true.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Don't you have other things to do this afternoon, my
dear nephew.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Sadly I do, Uncle, so I shall make my donations
and leave you to make yours. Thank you so very much. Uncle,
Come and have Christmas dinner with me and Clara tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Whyever did you get married?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Why?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Because I feel enough.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
That's the only thing in the world's chillier than a
merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's no use, Uncle, I shall keep my Christmas humor
to go last. A Merry Christmas to you, and a
happy New Year.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Merry Christmas, bread, Merry Christmas. Bob, I'm back.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Nothing, sir about the donation.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well, now, let's see. I know how to treat the poor.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
My taxes go to pay for the prisons and the poorhouses.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
The homeless must go there.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So is that muppet Christmas Carol? Yeah, okay, yeah, let's
see nineteen ninety two. Of course, the voice of Michael
Caine along with Beaker and Bunsen.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, those voices were thrown me off. I was like,
what the hell am I listening to you?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
You might have heard a little.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I was like, that voice of Bunsen. Isn't that to
sign of the Beaker? And Beaker is the guy who's
like me beat me.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
But the other guy who was like talking to Michaelcaine,
I was like, what am I listening to right now?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
And then it dawned on me, clearly that's a Muppet.
Good one. Nailed that one though, you knew it right away.
They appreciate your Muppet knowledge. That movie twenty seven million
at the box office. That's when the Muppets popularity was
starting to die down. It was twenty seven twenty seven
million domestic. Yeah, twelve million dollar budget, so not the worst,
(33:33):
but you know, the Muppets just they didn't have their
their power at that point.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, poor Muppets. They came back a little bit that
one with Jason Segel.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
They're doing all right. They're still still popular enough. All right,
you ready, I think so one. Two?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Have you any idea how many cats there are around
this country?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
No?
Speaker 5 (33:55):
I don't have those, No, twenty seven million. Do you
know how many dogs in America? Forty eight million?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
We spend four billion dollars on pet food alone. Four
Now I have here a study from Hampstead University which
shows us that cats and dogs are beginning to watch television. Now,
these scientists are right, you should start programming right now. Well,
in twenty years they could become study viewers programming for cats.
(34:27):
Fuck with me, Frank.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
All right, I got it. That is the unmissible Bill
Murray and of course scrooged Scrooge. Duh, yeah that's true.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Nineteen eighty eight, eighty eight, a selfish, cynical television executive
is haunted by three spirits bearing lessons on Christmas Eve.
This did sixty million domestic estimated thirty two million dollar budget.
Really good Christmas movie. Here's a great tagline I did
not know was the tagline for this movie. Bill Murray
(35:03):
is back among the ghosts, only this time it's three
against one. I thought that's a really crazy tagline that
they used. It's in reference to obviously Ghostbusters, right, everybody
loved him in Ghostbusters. Two hundred and forty three million
dollars for that movie, so you know that, like it
didn't have quite the pull clearly because this is a
(35:23):
little later.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But man, so good, so good. I can distinctly remember
when this movie came out, you know, being a young
lad and wanting to see this because of the ads,
because of the commercials they played, even because of the
print ads in the newspaper.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
This movie has a special place in my heart, you know,
because it's I think it's just a great Christmas movie.
It's the best version of a Christmas Carol in my mind,
you know, like I get bored with a Christmas Carol,
but this one, you know, it's fun. It whips by
so fast, it's an easy watch. And yet all kinds
of good, funny thing happened in this movie. Great actors,
(36:02):
fun fact on this movie. I don't know if you
knew this. Filming began in December of nineteen eighty seven,
so almost one year prior to it coming out. With
Christmas approaching, director Richard Donner asked if the production could
have Christmas Day off because it began filming in December, right,
But Paramount Pictures the executives refused, insisting that the film
(36:27):
should continue on Christmas Day. So what did Richard Donner do?
He fired the entire cast and crew at the end
of the day on December twenty fourth, and then two
days later, on the twenty six he rehired everyone, and
the break allowed the cast and the crew members to
spend Christmas with their families. That's how you stick it
(36:48):
to the man. When they tell you. No.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
It's funny. A movie that's kind of I guess, kind
of about like, yeah, not being grady and stuff around Christmas.
They're kind of living the opposite. It's an interesting movie too.
I watched it with my son last year or two
years ago or something like that. It's pretty dark. Yeah,
it's a good one. Glad we got a little little
scrooged in there. All right, here we go. You ready ready,
(37:14):
here's your mystery Holiday movie clip number two. This one's
a little higher. See what you can do?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
What does this mean?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Da enters in his bathroom.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Sweet Jimmy, the whole record in the morning.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Is killing my joint. Brag'll get the shovel.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Oh no, no, I listened to me when Alicia came totally
ruined everything.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know what I mean, right, because everything was just
so normal up until that point.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
So let's see four for four.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
So I realized what I had to do was expand
the family to get my real family.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Had to find my grandpa. So I went and found
my Duda. Here he is my Duda.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Your DUDEA looks exactly like the guy we saw Christmas.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Carol played Scrooge that's right.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I do a lot of community theater, and this Christmas
night I'm pre seen my roller school in the Lincoln
with Theater Group's production.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
It's a Christmas Carol. I hope you all to make it.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Please stay in character, Saul.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Okay, Dudah, I'm so glad that you came here and
you're gonna stay for the whole Christmas holiday.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I agreed to let you in the house. Not a
Dodo over here, Duda. Nobody's talking to you. All right, Look,
I'll give you twenty five thousand dollars. How you doing that, Duda?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Nice to see you again.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
You can stay in a living room, No, no doubt, Dad,
I'm sleeping in the living room anymore.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
All Right, man, I'm trying to think of this movie.
It's Ben Affleck. I want to say it's Trapped in Paradise.
It's not trapped in Paradise, but you're I feel like
you're in the in that that ballpark the comedy. Yeah
it's And it's got the dude from the Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I think he's the dad, James Gandolfini. Yeah, m hm.
And the mom is the mom. What's your name? From
Home Alone. Yeah, Catherine O'Hara.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, God, I can't think of the name of that movie.
I can't think of the name. I know the movie, though.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Like, have you seen the movie?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah, I've seen the movie. They all kind of like
blur together, the names blur together. I don't know why
I can't remember that one. It's yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I don't know. Without cheating, I can't. I can't come
over that. This was a tough one. This is the
two thousand and four movie Surviving Christmas. You nailed all
the actors.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
So I should get like points for knowing what the
movie is.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Like half a point for like getting around the edges. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I just couldn't name the movie. I could name everything else.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, that's all right. I think you did better than
ninety percent of people would probably do. This movie was
a flop when it came out, made eleven million at
the domestic box office twenty five million dollar budget. This
was when Ben Affleck was kind of on his downswing.
You know, he got popular and then he made a
bunch of movies that did not do well, and this
(40:10):
was one of them. Let's getting a little bit of
a revival. I think it's one of those ones that
people are kind of like, well, maybe it's better than
we got. Yeah, I mean Christmas movies tend to have
that effect. I feel like, yeah, they do because people
are always looking for new ones. And I feel like
as an actor, it's kind of a box you got
to check or you want to check. You're like, I
got to be a Christmas movie because then it can
(40:32):
play for decades and I'll maybe get some residual money
from that as it keeps airing or getting streamed a
year after year after year.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
I mean, it's not unlike music stars. You got to
make a Christmas album, Yeah, get a hit.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
So keeps getting those replays. Yeah, that's a good one.
That's a good pick. And you got me on that.
It was a deep cuts, a deep cut.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Look what you did, your little jerk, all right? So
I have my second ready for you.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I'm hear it. The bee and.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
The bells seem to say throw kissl dear sinner. The
last time I wrote to you, I was eight years old.
That was more than twenty five years ago. I know
it's been a long time, but you're my last hope.
I just don't know who else to turn to you
see this year for Christmas, I want the same things
(41:28):
I've always wanted, Peace on earth, goodwill towards men, and
a jet, A big, fat, silver giant Jumbo seven seven jet.
Shut up, I'm talking here.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I don't know if I know what that is. Do
you want to hear it again? Why we think about this?
Speaker 4 (41:51):
I don't know why I thought you would get this
right away.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah. It's almost not even bringing any bells, ringing any
bells quote unquote. So that's Dennis Leary, right, I'm thinking
it is Dennis Leary. Yeah, okay, I don't know. It's
a demolition man. I didn't do you dirty, like picking
(42:15):
a non Christmas movie. That's all I got for a guess.
This is the movie. The ref a wraf. I don't
know if I've ever seen the ref, but I know
the ref.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
For listeners out there. The summary of this is a
cat burglar is forced to take a bickering, dysfunctional family
hostage on Christmas Eve. So clearly a Christmas movie. Nineteen
ninety four.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
So this is from the nineties. It's from peak Dennis
Leary time.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Who else than that Kevin Spacey is in this. Judy
Davis JK.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Simmons.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Domestically, this movie did eleven million, so it wasn't a
huge hit. The budget was estimated eleven million. But the
fun fact that I brought out for this one was
this was the film debut of JK. Simmons, who everybody
usually knows.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Oh, it seems like he's been around a lot longer
than that, But how was it. JK.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Simmons also plays Santa in The Red One that just
came out.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Which looks like it might be one of the worst
holiday movies ever made.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
It's being donned as the best holiday movie ever made.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I just heard it on the radio today. According to
the makers.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
According to the I Don't Know the Universe, oring to
the Rock according to the Rocks publicist, it does look fun.
It does look like it might be fun. It's like
the Christmas Chronicles on Netflix. Like it wasn't like anything super,
but it was kind of fun seeing Kurt Russell as
you know, Santa Claus.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, that one was okay. That one was like more
of a work gear toward kids type of movie. I
think this one is too, isn't that It kind of
is I don't know. It has more of like a
whippy bloody type does it. That's what I feel like
Chris Evans in The Rock, that they're trying to do something.
Oh but oh buddy, I thought you bloody. No, no, no, okay,
(44:02):
bloody Like yeah, we're like jabbing each other. And I
thought the CGI stuff looked terrible.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
I'd like to see JK. Simmons as Santa. I think
that's kind of interesting. I like when they just kind
of throw somebody in there that you don't expect. Santa
always looks the same, like Paul Giomanni as Santa.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yeah, No, that's good. That's a good idea. We'll see
if red One. You know, how that stands up in
a few years. I feel like it might sink like
a stone, and I think the Rock needs to look
at what he's doing. I like what you did there.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Are you saying this sinking like a stone or sinking
like a rock? Or are you saying okay, I got you.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I like that. It's good. Yeah, that felt so natural.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
The way you said it too, is like you intended
it to come off that amazing, because it felt amazing
the way you said it, it's.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
How I roll.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Well, you're clearly the winner in this today. You're barely
this whole year though.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I mean, it's I'm sad to let twenty twenty four
go next year. I'm coming back. I'm concerned you're gonna
have more fire. But I only won by one. It
was four to three. One. Box office is what made
the difference.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Yeah, those were hard. I'm not gonna lie. Guessing the
number is hard. But I really do like the sound
bites because there's a little bit more to it. And
for our listeners, I feel like you guys get a
lot out of it because.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
You hear it.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
You're probably playing along, you're thinking about it, you might
be stumped, or you might be getting it right off
the bat like we did or didn't.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, that is fun.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Yeah, So we hope you got a lot of out
of today's episode, and maybe take a look at those
because I think a lot of those are good recommendations. Honestly,
the ones on our list today.
Speaker 6 (45:41):
I think it's worth checking out, you know, trying to
find trying to find something new, you know what I mean,
You're gonna watch the classics anyway, so check out, you know,
go to something maybe second tier off the beaten path
a little bit. You know, you're gonna watch your home
alone or you it's a wonderful life for something like that.
Get your classics in and then be like, Okay, let's
watch some Surviving Christmas or some Scrooge or something. You know,
(46:04):
something we don't typically watch. Maybe a little violent night.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Yeah, check them out, and then hit us up feedback
at speaking.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Human dot com. That's feedback.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
It's Speaking human dot com. I'll say it right the
second time, but hit us up with a little feedback.
Tell us what you thought.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Of that movie that you watched for the holidays. But
that's all we got. That's all we got. That's it
for this episode of movies and marketing. Until next time.
Let's fade to black. I'll be back. He's not coming back.
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