January 12, 2025 • 38 mins
In this episode of Motivation Zone, I talk about the trending topic of Stephen "Twitch" Boss and the family drama that has been unfolding online since the beginning of 2025. Allison Holker has decided to make some of Twitch's (alleged) past struggles public by releasing a book that she claims is meant to help others who might be in similar situations. I think this is a great topic to explore, as it raises questions about why people feel the need to keep secrets. I also discuss some solutions to improve our personal relationships. Let's Talk About It!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is just a quick notice that I will be
diving into a topic regarding self harm and a little
of depression, and I want you guys just to be
warned about it because it can be a triggering topic
for some people. I am using an example of a
current family situation that's been made public that I feel
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we could all use if we're seeing this as a
way to understand that we do need to check in
on one another and sometimes some of the ways that
we treat one another is not always the best. And
I just want to nudge and encourage you guys to
consider these thoughts, and of course, with everything that I say,
I encourage you guys to think through this for yourself
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and come to your own conclusions and solutions in a
wholesome way for your own life. I hope you take
a listen and that you gain something great from this conversation. Hi, everyone,
welcome back to another episode of Motivation Zone. It is
your host har Monica Ma super excited to be with
you guys, and hopefully I'll be able to get through
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this podcast without sneezing twenty times, because the more I
went throughout my day today, the stuffier I became for
whatever reason, I guess I need to up my vitamin.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
See.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, So I want to dive into a topic, and
Happy New Years to you guys. That's first of all,
and I always put the s on New Year's. Happy
New Year to you guys, twenty twenty five. I hope
that coming into the new year, it has been well
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for you. I have been seeing a lot of people saying,
oh my goodness, this year is already starting off crazy.
Da da da da da. And I'm sitting up here,
like you know, things don't stop. And if it was
already some chaos somewhere is not gonna pause for January,
the first of any year, right, And so it this
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kind of cracks me up when I see that, because
like life is still going and as people say, life
is still life, and there are still a lot of
open cases out here, and so when you're walking into
your new year, we have to find ways to get
to some resolutions, right, and we have to see what
we can do to solve a lot of these issues
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that we're having, whether it be in our personal lives,
whether it be in the government, whatever the case may be,
which we have a lot going on here in the States.
When it comes down to our politics, but that's another
topic for another day. And if you guys want to
hear some of my encouragement for the new year twenty
twenty five, be sure to check out my last podcast
because I did share some of my thoughts going into
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twenty twenty five as well as some of my holiday woes,
and it is a good one. So you guys go
ahead and check that out. I'll be happy if you
take a listen. So now we're going to dive into
something that I've seen trending. I've been following this story
and I've been following the individual that this story is
circled around, and that is Steven twitch Boss. Back in
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twenty twenty two, unfortunately, twitch Boss passed away due to
self harm and a lot of people were shocked, including myself,
and he would be one of the very few I
would call maybe popular people or celebrities some would say
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that I followed over the years, and I was first
introduced to twitch over the course of his career dance
career and when he started on the show So You
Think You Can Dance? And this took me way back
as I thought about it coming into this podcast, I
was like, Oh, my goodness. I watched so many I
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guess you could say competition shows. I also watched a
few reality shows and one of the first ones I
was introduced to was Flavor of Love. So I've been
following Tiffany Pollard just to see where she's gone in life,
you know. And then there are a few people I
followed from American Idol just every now and then you
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get that thought, where are these people now? They were
so talented or you know, maybe they weren't the best,
but their time on that show was something memorable, so
you check up on them. And then So you Think
you Can Dance was another one of those shows, and
Twitch was a standout for me in that show, and
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I remember wondering throughout the years where he was. And
anytime I would see, you know, an Ellen clip from
the Ellen Degenerate show. I can never say her name, right,
but you guys get what I'm saying. Whenever I would
see those clips, I would run and click on them.
And he always seemed to be such a lie and
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is such a good mood. And so that's what brings
me to this topic of why so many secrets? Right?
What causes a person to not want to share with
the people that's around them.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
There is a lot of speculation surrounding Twitch's death, and
what stirred this up here in the new year twenty
twenty five and about two years after his death, is
that Alison Hulker, his widow, has come out with a
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book or it's right now in pre order, so it's
not available right now to the public, but it will
be available coming up in February. And in this book,
based on her interview with People magazine that was recently
publicly released, she's sharing some intimate detail from his diary
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that he wrote and didn't even share with her allegedly.
And then also she's alleging that he had drug problems
or a drug addiction. And this has caused many of
his family, friends, coworkers to come out and really share
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their thoughts and their feelings and emotions on this situation
because he is not here to defend himself. And what
I find very strange, and the reason why I feel
like this would be a great topic is because a
lot of the times, and I'm not going to say
who Allison is, but it seems to be that a
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lot of people really didn't like her, but they tolerated
her for Twitch and that they saw things and maybe
he even confided in them with certain things. And even
one friend in a family member said that he would
say that he would really want it out of that
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relationship with her, but they would encourage him to stay
in it. And a lot of the times people do
this because they don't want to be as some people
say negative, and so they would encourage the person to
stay in a relationship due to maybe the kids that
are involved, and it's an unfortunate situation that three kids
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are left without a father, and some people try to
take the more optimistic route when dealing with a person's
feelings and emotions. And that's understandable because a lot of
people take the position of I don't want to get involved.
It's not my business, it's their business, right And so,
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with this situation being exposed right now, and it is
a trending topic and a very interesting one because it
has so many people talking. Some people are saying that
Allison shouldn't be sharing Twitch's secrets if they really are
his secrets, and that's really the majority. A lot of
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people want to say that this is a split conversation,
but it really isn't a lot of people are feeling
there is just some things that she should not share.
And then also there's a lot of speculation around why
she's sharing it now, the fact that and she was
accused by Twitch's relatives saying that she removed the boss
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name within forty eight hours after his passing, So there
Initially she wanted to paint the picture like there was
nothing wrong with their marriage. He didn't show any signs
of depression, He didn't show any signs that led up
to this. But then in her newest interviews, and this
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is before even the People magazine interview, which has gotten
more views and more attention, I guess because of the
nature that surrounded with it, with her coming out this book,
with this book, and the fact that she's now sharing
that he was a drug addict and all these things
which she had not shared in previous interviews. But in
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some of her other interviews she mentions that basically she's
saying he had two personalities. And she said in one
interview that I watched briefly that he wasn't the extrovert
that he showed to the public. He was more of
an introvert. And then she would say he would give
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so much of himself that he would pretty much just
empty himself out and then that would cause some form
of depression or whatever, and then he would have to recover.
Then he could go back out and be the extrovert
that he puts off in the public. And to me,
that didn't make any sense for someone who had initially
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come out and said that he didn't show any signs
of depression or any signs that was leading into the
cause of his death. And there's a lot going on
with that. I don't know them, but twitch, based on
what I saw when I followed him, I saw someone
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who was very bubbly, very outgoing. He never and I
watched for a few of their dance videos leading into
this podcast, he never tried to outshine her. He always
allowed her to stand in the front when she was dancing.
He always egged her on and he pushed her to
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the front, and you could tell that he enjoyed doing
that based on what the video showed.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So here's my issue, guys, and this is where we're
getting into with why so many secrets? Right, I'm using
this kind of as an example. At the end of
the day, Allison is now putting out here that he
hid depression, he hid his introverted personality, and he hid
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a drug addiction. And here's the thing, you guys, most
of the time, all of that, if a person is
suffering through all of those things in a nature of
not being themselves and they're just tolerating so much, you
cannot possibly balance all of that at one time without
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someone somewhere seeing it, without someone somewhere knowing about it,
without someone somewhere having some inkling that all of these
inner things are kind of tiptoeing to the surface. You
can tell in subtle movements and mannerisms, You could tell
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it in speech, especially when it comes down to drugs.
I was gonna give her the benefit of the doubt
if he had some secret depression and some secret hidden
issues that he was dealing with.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But then when she threw the drugs.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Into the pot, I was like, hmm, everything cannot possibly
be hidden in this situation. It is impossible to hide
every last one of these things. You cannot mix all
three of these, especially when it comes down to a
true introvert. I myself come across as very extrovert to
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people because I am a bubbly personality, and I'm not
shy or afraid of people. And I think that may
be one of the differences with some introverts who really
just don't want to deal with the world, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
They don't want to.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Mingle, they don't want to talk too many people, and
they have a shyness about them. For me, I am
kind of the opposite. I am very introverted, which means
I enjoy my personal private space. I can have fun
all by myself. I don't need a crowd. I don't
need to be around people. But when I am I
can kind of flow in a crowd, you know what
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I mean, And I could kind of talk to people
and really have a good time if that's what I'm
there to do. And a lot of the times though,
like an introverted personality, where that may be a default,
you know, where you can come out a little extrovert.
You can tip toe in public spaces and around a
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group of people, but then you start to have that
feeling of I'm ready to go home. I've been out
here too long. I'm out, you know what I mean.
You can feel that from a person who may appear extroverted,
but then their true introvert nature tips toes in and
they lead the parties early. They don't really hang out
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too long, but they were there and while they're were there,
people enjoyed them. But then it was like, you know what,
y'all keep going, you have a good time.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'm out.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I'm going home to enjoy my space and to enjoy
my life.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So there are.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Certain traits in all of these things that she's discussing
concerning to which that I feel like someone would have
caught at some point in time. But for her, everything
was a secret. Everything was hidden and she's the only
one who can tell it. And I find that very
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very odd personally, right, So why so many secrets? This
is why I want to come to you guys with
this today because I noticed I noticed this when we
were going through the political situation.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So many people were hiding who they were voting for
because they don't want to disrupt or get into arguments,
or they don't want to lose relationships. There is so
much going on with people hiding what they really think,
what they really feel, who they really are. And when
I say these things, you guys, I know that there
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are nuances and I always encourage.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
You all to.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Take what I'm saying and you judge that based on
your own experiences, and you can kind of I always say,
Ruben's cub it. That's kind of how I imagine my
life a lot of the times when I'm trying to
work through, you know, and find some solutions and you know,
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move forward with certain goals and all these different things.
Is I imagine myself Rubt's cubing my situation, which means
I'm constantly turning and turning and turning until those those
colors sync up right. So we are very different. Experiences
are very different, and I may not be able to
cover all the nuances in this one topic. But you guys,
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feel free to reflect and think about your own situations
and you can come up with your own solutions and
conclusions to your situations. But I'm gonna always encourage always
find the most wholesome way to deal with things, guys,
find a way that is healthy to deal with things.
And I would go into a quick example of this.
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I guess I can, because it just popped up in
my mind. But I remember back in the day I
was working at Walmart. I worked there for two years,
and I remember every time I walked into the store
when it came down to me needing a lunch or
a snack, or whatever the case may be. Because I
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did not necessarily have a healthy mentality at the time,
when it came down to my diet and we just
eat whatever, I will always go get me a king
size snicker, get me some Dorito or some type of chip,
and get me something to drink. Now, at the time,
I was still drinking more water than I was soda,
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So I will give myself that credit. But I remember
one day walking into the store and I was on break.
I had walked out to get something out of my car,
and I walked back in and I felt like God
was saying, here is another way to think about your
diet and your life. And I'm standing in the front
of the store, because when you first come to the store,
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on the left hand side are all the cash registers,
self check out all that good stuff, and then on
the right hand side, immediately coming in, you see the
produce department. And so I'm just standing there and it
was almost as if the brightest light shined on the
produce department for me. And I'm just sitting there and
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I was like, hold up, I've been walking past all
these bananas, grapes, oranges, apples, pineapples, you know, the salad
bowls that they put together, and the deli. I've been
walking past and stuff every single day for I would say,
probably a good dog on year, right before I realized
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that I'm over here choosing candy and potato chips or
doritos or whatever at the time as a snack, when
I could have literally been eating vegetables and fruits. And
I'm telling you, guys, it was the craziest And you
would think that would be something so small in detail,
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but it blew my mind that day because honestly, you guys,
I was completely in the dark to the produce department,
never looked at it, never walked through the produce department.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
And even back then.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Which is a completely different life I live today, even
back then, I'm only buying frozen vegetables, frozen fruits. You know,
you go in the freezer department in I mean, you
have to do what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
And then also.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I grew up with the fruits in the can, so
I just and the vegetables in the can can stream beans,
you know, frozen broccoli, so I just never really bought
a lot of fresh produce, and then all of a sudden,
a light would shine on that and I was like,
I have learned something different. I have been exposed to
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something better, and now I'm going to apply it and
I am going to do better. Seriously, that was one
of the biggest things that came to me as I'm
talking to you guys about just judging what I'm saying
and finding something for yourself and if there is something
there for you to apply, great, and if you discover
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new things as you're thinking through this, great, because I'm
always gonna encourage you guys to also think for yourselves.
I believe in that wholeheartedly. I do this podcast because
it's something I enjoy doing. I enjoy honing in on
different topics and sharing my thoughts about it in hopes
that it really does help someone else, because not everyone
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has someone to talk to, and not everyone has someone
around them who shares the exact same thoughts. Sometime where
you're kind of like, am I the only one who
thinks this way about this? Which goes back into what
we're talking about right now, when it comes down to
why so many secrets in the case of Alison and
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Steven twitch Boss, we see that allegedly someone had a
lot of things that they were dealing with that they
didn't even share with their spouse. And I have understood
over the years that this is why so many people
go and seek therapy and they get counseling, because usually
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the therapy sessions are something that's private, and the therapist
is not supposed to share the information that shared throughout
that session with that individual, and so there is a
form of not necessarily that I won't use secrecy, but
there is some discretion there in what should be shared
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and what shouldn't, and all of your stuff is just
not put out there to the public. And I can
only imagine, and I think about this situation with Alison
sharing some of his private thoughts that if that was
a therapist doing that, can you imagine the backlash It
would be even worse because professionals are not supposed to
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do that. So I understand why people seek therapy. So
that is one of the solutions if you're someone out
there who's holding many secrets that you're finding it hard
to deal with, is to seek a professional who you
can talk these things out with.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And get a valuable solution.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's very important to have an outlet that you can
share some things and feel like you are in a
safe space. As I thought about the topic of why
so many secrets, and I go back to talking to
so many individuals over the course of the election twenty
twenty four is most people are around who they consider
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loved ones, and I started to ask people, what in
the world do y'all think love is? It's love just
gathering around each other for you know, hot dogs, barbecue,
good desserts, good laughs, and that's it. I have been
one who's wholeheartedly believed that love is also being able
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to hear each other. Love is also being able to
acknowledge the next person's hurt and pain. Love is also
being able to acknowledge another person's goals and ambitions and
the things that they would like to accomplish. I have always,
you guys, been a believer in this, and it is
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going to be on my prayer list that more people
become aware of those who are around them, because one
thing that I've dealt with and that I've seen is
that a lot of people who swear they love someone,
especially when it comes down to family members is they
will say, well, I love you how I love you,
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And that means that you can stand there tears coming
down your face, hurt, explaining things or trying to let
people know how you feel, and it's brushed off because
they only love you a certain way and they feel
like the way that they love you should be good
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enough for you, Like I've given you everything I can
right and in that sentence, and that sentiment is I've
given you what I feel I can give you, and
you should take it. And this is the way I
love you, and what you're asking for and what you
need I can't give you. Now. That can be true
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in some cases, and like I said, there's nuances to
it because it depends on what a person needs, It
depends on their actions and what they've been doing with
their life as to why they reach certain spaces and time.
There's a lot to consider when it comes down to
fulfilling a person's need and or acknowledging a person's hurt,
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acknowledging their emotions, and or acknowledging their goals, like, for instance,
when it comes down the goal setting, I tell people
all the time, I'm right now personally in a place
where I'm trying to build something, so I don't have
too much that I could just be freely giving financially
to people. But where I am valuable is, oh, okay,
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you're starting a business. Where can I dive in with
my core gifts and talents to help your business flourish?
What can I give you out of what I'm talented
in doing that can be of value to you? Because
if you was to go somewhere else, it would be
a monetary value to you, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So I know the place I'm in currently, and I
fake with no one regarding that.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
But what I do is I shift to see.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay, well I may not be able to contribute to
you monetarily, but I can contribute to you another way.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And it took me a while.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
To kind of see these shifts. And I'm gonna tell
you why, because so many people try to tell you
how to help them, too, right, And not only that,
society tries to tell you in what ways you should
deal with people, And so it's always that one track thing,
and then you see no other solutions, You see no
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other way of contribution, and so then a lot of
people fall back, a lot of people don't communicate.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
A lot of.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
People try to avoid that person because they know they're
not able and capable of helping that person in the
way that they're feeling like they need to be helped.
And so in that I encourage you, guys to find
other ways. If someone's coming to you about something, whether
it be emotionally, whether it be goal oriented, whether it
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be life, you know, just general things that people need.
If you can't help them one way, I encourage you
to find another way. Something even And I'll give you
another quick example. This is very similar to me walking
in Walmart and I'm looking at the produce department. Now
I see it. Did not see it before. So when
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I walked in, I was constantly grabbing at something else
for my snack and then not look at this department
at all. So in that when you guys are going
forward and someone is coming up to you, I had
another example and I just lost my example. Hold on
because I went back to produce.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I cannot.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I had a really good example too, but it'll come
back to me. But when you're looking for those solutions,
it just came back to me. There are people who
come to you and they say, hey, I can't find
a resource for Xyz. I'm looking for someone who can
help me with this, help me with that. Research is
another way to help a person, even if you're not
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someone who can fulfill that for someone. I have done
this even recently. I say, you know what, let me
look up some people for you. Let me look up
a solution for you. I can't do it, and that's
not what I'm able to do at the time. Whether
it be because of time, whether it be because of finances,
whether it be because a location, whatever the case may be.
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Then I would say, let me look it up for you,
let me give you a list, and hopefully this helps.
So there are so many ways that we can be
helpful to one another. And that is also a big
message here when it comes down to why so many secrets.
People are pulling back from sharing with their loved ones
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and sharing with the people around them who say that
they're there for them. But at the end of the day,
there is so much pulling away, so many things gone
unsaid because we are not trying to help each other
the way that is healthy. And we really need to
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pray about this and start doing better when someone is hurting.
And I'm sure in Twitch's case, leading up to his
decision that he made in the circumstance that has been
put out in the public, I'm sure he was hurting.
And if that is the case, then he reached a
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point in that moment where he thought whatever was getting
ready to happen in his situation, or whatever was already
happening in his situation, whatever was already said, he thought
that he had reached a point of no return, and
that the most important person in his life at the time,
which is your spouse, that's the order of things, that
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person should be the one protecting you at all costs.
We should protect each other, you know, And there are
situations where you do have to cover yourself, and that's
very important. But we have to know when those times are,
and we can't just run in full own selfishness. We
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can't just stand there and say I'm only gonna look
out for me, period. So in that he felt like
the most important person in his life, and I'm sure
something went down. She was the last person who saw
him alive, So I'm sure something went down and something
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was said, and only God knows what that is. But
in that he didn't feel safe, he didn't feel like
he can share, and he didn't feel like his outcome
would be the best outcome if he made some other decisions,
whether that be what the rumor has been as far
as divorce, or whether that would be separation, or whatever
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the case is. And a lot of good people end
up falling through the cracks because they are good people
and because they care, you know, so deeply and so
strongly about others, and because they encourage other people in
their goals and you know, in in their solutions to
solving problems that when it comes down to themselves, they
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feel like they have to do it for themselves all
the time. Now, I would be so bold as to
go into this and say, you, guys, I just I
hate I hate to say it, but I feel like
it needs to be said. If you have a circle
of people that you're in right now and y'all always y'all,
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you are always exchanging these niceties and I love you,
but you don't feel safe and you feel like you
can't share anything with them, and you feel like for
whatever reason you can't, then it may be also a
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very good thing to change your circle. A lot of
people are spending a lot of money in therapy to
stay in pretty bad relationships. And in my humblest opinion,
you guys, if you don't have one person around you
who can protect you, who you confide in, who will
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see you for who you are when you stand in
front of them instead of assuming, instead of you know,
brushing you off, it's probably gonna save you a lot
more money to change your circle and dial back from that.
Also take some time, just my recommendation and suggestion, take
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some time.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
To figure out what your definition of love is.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Some people can stay in these scenarios of not sharing
their true selves and you know, covering up their feelings
and emotions. They can stay in there forever because they
have a viewpoint on love.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
That's different, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
And they think that showing up simply is love, being
present is love, you know. But for me, and I'm
speaking to those who may be similar, I feel like
love is a lot deeper than that. And as a
receiver of it, as a receiver of love and as
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a giver of love, I understand that whatever I want,
I need to also contribute. And I want to end
it with this. You guys, we often talk about self
love and it starts there, right Your viewpoint on love
(33:37):
should be how you treat yourself, and in that how
you treat yourself will lead you into understanding how you
want to be treated by others. But also in love
and yourself, you understand how to treat others.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
And I have.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Never in my life seen so many people, I mean
so many say I really don't care how that person feels,
I really don't care how I've treated that person, and
then turn right around and get mad when the situation
is turned on them and the same thing happens to them.
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So many people do not apply that rule that treats
others how you want to be treated is a real thing,
and we need to get back there. So I'm not
just talking to you guys today about watching your own
circle and getting to the bottom of who you can
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share with and getting a solution for those things that
you're holding eternally that may be causing some emotional distress
to you. But I'm also encouraging you guys to be
out on the lookout for how you receive others when
they're going through something similar.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Are you someone.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's approachable, who is able to open up and listen
to someone else who may be going through something. Are
you able to sit and listen to someone who's excited
about their goals and they're ready to move into something
and to achieve something in the future. Are you able
to encourage someone else in their comings and their goings.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
We have to be that. We need to start.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Setting better examples. And so with Alison Hulker, who has
dropped the bos's name, which there's a lot going on
between her and Twitch's family and it's so dogone unfortunate
you guys, But with her, I would ask her, if
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I knew her, would you want him to do the
same to you? Would you want him to expose your
diary if it really was your diary? Would you want
him to expose what was in your close if what
you found was really in his closet? How would you
want to be treated in this situation? It is really
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coming across that she was someone who did not care
about his feelings and his emotions, and usually a person
who goes to that extent. There are multiple reasons and
many deep reasons why people go there, but one of
them is when they feel unheard and feel unsafe, and
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when they feel like they have nothing left and that
they feel like there is something there with the people
that's close to them that has not been loving towards them.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
And people check out on each other all the time,
So you guys, check back in.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Seriously.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
If you've checked out, check in. Start listening more to others,
and start being a real friend, and start sharing some
true love and spend some time figuring out what that
means to you so that way people will not feel
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the need to hold so many secrets and so many
issues that go unchecked. So those are my thoughts you
guys right now. It's a lot going on in the world,
and I will be coming back with a little bit more,
(37:36):
especially on politics, but I'm gonna leave you guys with
those thoughts for now. Think about it, take some time
with yourself this year, and if you have to make
some necessary changes to the people that you're around, and
also make some necessary changes to how you are around people.
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I'm just saying, And if you have any thoughts, you guys,
about this podcast, and you want to share any stories
with me or leave me a comment, feel free to
check the description of any platform that you're listening to
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For this particular episode, i'd be happy to hear from you.
Remember to keep your comments classy and professional, because that's
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all we do over here. And until next time, you
guys chat soon
This is just a quick notice that I will be
diving into a topic regarding self harm and a little
of depression, and I want you guys just to be
warned about it because it can be a triggering topic
for some people. I am using an example of a
current family situation that's been made public that I feel
(00:20):
we could all use if we're seeing this as a
way to understand that we do need to check in
on one another and sometimes some of the ways that
we treat one another is not always the best. And
I just want to nudge and encourage you guys to
consider these thoughts, and of course, with everything that I say,
I encourage you guys to think through this for yourself
(00:43):
and come to your own conclusions and solutions in a
wholesome way for your own life. I hope you take
a listen and that you gain something great from this conversation. Hi, everyone,
welcome back to another episode of Motivation Zone. It is
your host har Monica Ma super excited to be with
you guys, and hopefully I'll be able to get through
(01:03):
this podcast without sneezing twenty times, because the more I
went throughout my day today, the stuffier I became for
whatever reason, I guess I need to up my vitamin.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
See.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, So I want to dive into a topic, and
Happy New Years to you guys. That's first of all,
and I always put the s on New Year's. Happy
New Year to you guys, twenty twenty five. I hope
that coming into the new year, it has been well
(01:37):
for you. I have been seeing a lot of people saying,
oh my goodness, this year is already starting off crazy.
Da da da da da. And I'm sitting up here,
like you know, things don't stop. And if it was
already some chaos somewhere is not gonna pause for January,
the first of any year, right, And so it this
(02:00):
kind of cracks me up when I see that, because
like life is still going and as people say, life
is still life, and there are still a lot of
open cases out here, and so when you're walking into
your new year, we have to find ways to get
to some resolutions, right, and we have to see what
we can do to solve a lot of these issues
(02:22):
that we're having, whether it be in our personal lives,
whether it be in the government, whatever the case may be,
which we have a lot going on here in the States.
When it comes down to our politics, but that's another
topic for another day. And if you guys want to
hear some of my encouragement for the new year twenty
twenty five, be sure to check out my last podcast
because I did share some of my thoughts going into
(02:45):
twenty twenty five as well as some of my holiday woes,
and it is a good one. So you guys go
ahead and check that out. I'll be happy if you
take a listen. So now we're going to dive into
something that I've seen trending. I've been following this story
and I've been following the individual that this story is
circled around, and that is Steven twitch Boss. Back in
(03:09):
twenty twenty two, unfortunately, twitch Boss passed away due to
self harm and a lot of people were shocked, including myself,
and he would be one of the very few I
would call maybe popular people or celebrities some would say
(03:33):
that I followed over the years, and I was first
introduced to twitch over the course of his career dance
career and when he started on the show So You
Think You Can Dance? And this took me way back
as I thought about it coming into this podcast, I
was like, Oh, my goodness. I watched so many I
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guess you could say competition shows. I also watched a
few reality shows and one of the first ones I
was introduced to was Flavor of Love. So I've been
following Tiffany Pollard just to see where she's gone in life,
you know. And then there are a few people I
followed from American Idol just every now and then you
(04:17):
get that thought, where are these people now? They were
so talented or you know, maybe they weren't the best,
but their time on that show was something memorable, so
you check up on them. And then So you Think
you Can Dance was another one of those shows, and
Twitch was a standout for me in that show, and
(04:39):
I remember wondering throughout the years where he was. And
anytime I would see, you know, an Ellen clip from
the Ellen Degenerate show. I can never say her name, right,
but you guys get what I'm saying. Whenever I would
see those clips, I would run and click on them.
And he always seemed to be such a lie and
(05:00):
is such a good mood. And so that's what brings
me to this topic of why so many secrets? Right?
What causes a person to not want to share with
the people that's around them.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
There is a lot of speculation surrounding Twitch's death, and
what stirred this up here in the new year twenty
twenty five and about two years after his death, is
that Alison Hulker, his widow, has come out with a
(05:41):
book or it's right now in pre order, so it's
not available right now to the public, but it will
be available coming up in February. And in this book,
based on her interview with People magazine that was recently
publicly released, she's sharing some intimate detail from his diary
(06:01):
that he wrote and didn't even share with her allegedly.
And then also she's alleging that he had drug problems
or a drug addiction. And this has caused many of
his family, friends, coworkers to come out and really share
(06:23):
their thoughts and their feelings and emotions on this situation
because he is not here to defend himself. And what
I find very strange, and the reason why I feel
like this would be a great topic is because a
lot of the times, and I'm not going to say
who Allison is, but it seems to be that a
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lot of people really didn't like her, but they tolerated
her for Twitch and that they saw things and maybe
he even confided in them with certain things. And even
one friend in a family member said that he would
say that he would really want it out of that
(07:05):
relationship with her, but they would encourage him to stay
in it. And a lot of the times people do
this because they don't want to be as some people
say negative, and so they would encourage the person to
stay in a relationship due to maybe the kids that
are involved, and it's an unfortunate situation that three kids
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are left without a father, and some people try to
take the more optimistic route when dealing with a person's
feelings and emotions. And that's understandable because a lot of
people take the position of I don't want to get involved.
It's not my business, it's their business, right And so,
(07:50):
with this situation being exposed right now, and it is
a trending topic and a very interesting one because it
has so many people talking. Some people are saying that
Allison shouldn't be sharing Twitch's secrets if they really are
his secrets, and that's really the majority. A lot of
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people want to say that this is a split conversation,
but it really isn't a lot of people are feeling
there is just some things that she should not share.
And then also there's a lot of speculation around why
she's sharing it now, the fact that and she was
accused by Twitch's relatives saying that she removed the boss
(08:33):
name within forty eight hours after his passing, So there
Initially she wanted to paint the picture like there was
nothing wrong with their marriage. He didn't show any signs
of depression, He didn't show any signs that led up
to this. But then in her newest interviews, and this
(08:53):
is before even the People magazine interview, which has gotten
more views and more attention, I guess because of the
nature that surrounded with it, with her coming out this book,
with this book, and the fact that she's now sharing
that he was a drug addict and all these things
which she had not shared in previous interviews. But in
(09:14):
some of her other interviews she mentions that basically she's
saying he had two personalities. And she said in one
interview that I watched briefly that he wasn't the extrovert
that he showed to the public. He was more of
an introvert. And then she would say he would give
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so much of himself that he would pretty much just
empty himself out and then that would cause some form
of depression or whatever, and then he would have to recover.
Then he could go back out and be the extrovert
that he puts off in the public. And to me,
that didn't make any sense for someone who had initially
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come out and said that he didn't show any signs
of depression or any signs that was leading into the
cause of his death. And there's a lot going on
with that. I don't know them, but twitch, based on
what I saw when I followed him, I saw someone
(10:19):
who was very bubbly, very outgoing. He never and I
watched for a few of their dance videos leading into
this podcast, he never tried to outshine her. He always
allowed her to stand in the front when she was dancing.
He always egged her on and he pushed her to
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the front, and you could tell that he enjoyed doing
that based on what the video showed.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So here's my issue, guys, and this is where we're
getting into with why so many secrets? Right, I'm using
this kind of as an example. At the end of
the day, Allison is now putting out here that he
hid depression, he hid his introverted personality, and he hid
(11:13):
a drug addiction. And here's the thing, you guys, most
of the time, all of that, if a person is
suffering through all of those things in a nature of
not being themselves and they're just tolerating so much, you
cannot possibly balance all of that at one time without
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someone somewhere seeing it, without someone somewhere knowing about it,
without someone somewhere having some inkling that all of these
inner things are kind of tiptoeing to the surface. You
can tell in subtle movements and mannerisms, You could tell
(11:59):
it in speech, especially when it comes down to drugs.
I was gonna give her the benefit of the doubt
if he had some secret depression and some secret hidden
issues that he was dealing with.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But then when she threw the drugs.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Into the pot, I was like, hmm, everything cannot possibly
be hidden in this situation. It is impossible to hide
every last one of these things. You cannot mix all
three of these, especially when it comes down to a
true introvert. I myself come across as very extrovert to
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people because I am a bubbly personality, and I'm not
shy or afraid of people. And I think that may
be one of the differences with some introverts who really
just don't want to deal with the world, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
They don't want to.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Mingle, they don't want to talk too many people, and
they have a shyness about them. For me, I am
kind of the opposite. I am very introverted, which means
I enjoy my personal private space. I can have fun
all by myself. I don't need a crowd. I don't
need to be around people. But when I am I
can kind of flow in a crowd, you know what
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I mean, And I could kind of talk to people
and really have a good time if that's what I'm
there to do. And a lot of the times though,
like an introverted personality, where that may be a default,
you know, where you can come out a little extrovert.
You can tip toe in public spaces and around a
(13:36):
group of people, but then you start to have that
feeling of I'm ready to go home. I've been out
here too long. I'm out, you know what I mean.
You can feel that from a person who may appear extroverted,
but then their true introvert nature tips toes in and
they lead the parties early. They don't really hang out
(13:58):
too long, but they were there and while they're were there,
people enjoyed them. But then it was like, you know what,
y'all keep going, you have a good time.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'm out.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I'm going home to enjoy my space and to enjoy
my life.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So there are.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Certain traits in all of these things that she's discussing
concerning to which that I feel like someone would have
caught at some point in time. But for her, everything
was a secret. Everything was hidden and she's the only
one who can tell it. And I find that very
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very odd personally, right, So why so many secrets? This
is why I want to come to you guys with
this today because I noticed I noticed this when we
were going through the political situation.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So many people were hiding who they were voting for
because they don't want to disrupt or get into arguments,
or they don't want to lose relationships. There is so
much going on with people hiding what they really think,
what they really feel, who they really are. And when
I say these things, you guys, I know that there
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are nuances and I always encourage.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
You all to.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Take what I'm saying and you judge that based on
your own experiences, and you can kind of I always say,
Ruben's cub it. That's kind of how I imagine my
life a lot of the times when I'm trying to
work through, you know, and find some solutions and you know,
(15:40):
move forward with certain goals and all these different things.
Is I imagine myself Rubt's cubing my situation, which means
I'm constantly turning and turning and turning until those those
colors sync up right. So we are very different. Experiences
are very different, and I may not be able to
cover all the nuances in this one topic. But you guys,
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feel free to reflect and think about your own situations
and you can come up with your own solutions and
conclusions to your situations. But I'm gonna always encourage always
find the most wholesome way to deal with things, guys,
find a way that is healthy to deal with things.
And I would go into a quick example of this.
(16:24):
I guess I can, because it just popped up in
my mind. But I remember back in the day I
was working at Walmart. I worked there for two years,
and I remember every time I walked into the store
when it came down to me needing a lunch or
a snack, or whatever the case may be. Because I
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did not necessarily have a healthy mentality at the time,
when it came down to my diet and we just
eat whatever, I will always go get me a king
size snicker, get me some Dorito or some type of chip,
and get me something to drink. Now, at the time,
I was still drinking more water than I was soda,
(17:07):
So I will give myself that credit. But I remember
one day walking into the store and I was on break.
I had walked out to get something out of my car,
and I walked back in and I felt like God
was saying, here is another way to think about your
diet and your life. And I'm standing in the front
of the store, because when you first come to the store,
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on the left hand side are all the cash registers,
self check out all that good stuff, and then on
the right hand side, immediately coming in, you see the
produce department. And so I'm just standing there and it
was almost as if the brightest light shined on the
produce department for me. And I'm just sitting there and
(17:51):
I was like, hold up, I've been walking past all
these bananas, grapes, oranges, apples, pineapples, you know, the salad
bowls that they put together, and the deli. I've been
walking past and stuff every single day for I would say,
probably a good dog on year, right before I realized
(18:16):
that I'm over here choosing candy and potato chips or
doritos or whatever at the time as a snack, when
I could have literally been eating vegetables and fruits. And
I'm telling you, guys, it was the craziest And you
would think that would be something so small in detail,
(18:38):
but it blew my mind that day because honestly, you guys,
I was completely in the dark to the produce department,
never looked at it, never walked through the produce department.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
And even back then.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Which is a completely different life I live today, even
back then, I'm only buying frozen vegetables, frozen fruits. You know,
you go in the freezer department in I mean, you
have to do what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
And then also.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I grew up with the fruits in the can, so
I just and the vegetables in the can can stream beans,
you know, frozen broccoli, so I just never really bought
a lot of fresh produce, and then all of a sudden,
a light would shine on that and I was like,
I have learned something different. I have been exposed to
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something better, and now I'm going to apply it and
I am going to do better. Seriously, that was one
of the biggest things that came to me as I'm
talking to you guys about just judging what I'm saying
and finding something for yourself and if there is something
there for you to apply, great, and if you discover
(19:51):
new things as you're thinking through this, great, because I'm
always gonna encourage you guys to also think for yourselves.
I believe in that wholeheartedly. I do this podcast because
it's something I enjoy doing. I enjoy honing in on
different topics and sharing my thoughts about it in hopes
that it really does help someone else, because not everyone
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has someone to talk to, and not everyone has someone
around them who shares the exact same thoughts. Sometime where
you're kind of like, am I the only one who
thinks this way about this? Which goes back into what
we're talking about right now, when it comes down to
why so many secrets in the case of Alison and
(20:34):
Steven twitch Boss, we see that allegedly someone had a
lot of things that they were dealing with that they
didn't even share with their spouse. And I have understood
over the years that this is why so many people
go and seek therapy and they get counseling, because usually
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the therapy sessions are something that's private, and the therapist
is not supposed to share the information that shared throughout
that session with that individual, and so there is a
form of not necessarily that I won't use secrecy, but
there is some discretion there in what should be shared
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and what shouldn't, and all of your stuff is just
not put out there to the public. And I can
only imagine, and I think about this situation with Alison
sharing some of his private thoughts that if that was
a therapist doing that, can you imagine the backlash It
would be even worse because professionals are not supposed to
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do that. So I understand why people seek therapy. So
that is one of the solutions if you're someone out
there who's holding many secrets that you're finding it hard
to deal with, is to seek a professional who you
can talk these things out with.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And get a valuable solution.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's very important to have an outlet that you can
share some things and feel like you are in a
safe space. As I thought about the topic of why
so many secrets, and I go back to talking to
so many individuals over the course of the election twenty
twenty four is most people are around who they consider
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loved ones, and I started to ask people, what in
the world do y'all think love is? It's love just
gathering around each other for you know, hot dogs, barbecue,
good desserts, good laughs, and that's it. I have been
one who's wholeheartedly believed that love is also being able
(22:51):
to hear each other. Love is also being able to
acknowledge the next person's hurt and pain. Love is also
being able to acknowledge another person's goals and ambitions and
the things that they would like to accomplish. I have always,
you guys, been a believer in this, and it is
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going to be on my prayer list that more people
become aware of those who are around them, because one
thing that I've dealt with and that I've seen is
that a lot of people who swear they love someone,
especially when it comes down to family members is they
will say, well, I love you how I love you,
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And that means that you can stand there tears coming
down your face, hurt, explaining things or trying to let
people know how you feel, and it's brushed off because
they only love you a certain way and they feel
like the way that they love you should be good
(23:59):
enough for you, Like I've given you everything I can
right and in that sentence, and that sentiment is I've
given you what I feel I can give you, and
you should take it. And this is the way I
love you, and what you're asking for and what you
need I can't give you. Now. That can be true
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in some cases, and like I said, there's nuances to
it because it depends on what a person needs, It
depends on their actions and what they've been doing with
their life as to why they reach certain spaces and time.
There's a lot to consider when it comes down to
fulfilling a person's need and or acknowledging a person's hurt,
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acknowledging their emotions, and or acknowledging their goals, like, for instance,
when it comes down the goal setting, I tell people
all the time, I'm right now personally in a place
where I'm trying to build something, so I don't have
too much that I could just be freely giving financially
to people. But where I am valuable is, oh, okay,
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you're starting a business. Where can I dive in with
my core gifts and talents to help your business flourish?
What can I give you out of what I'm talented
in doing that can be of value to you? Because
if you was to go somewhere else, it would be
a monetary value to you, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So I know the place I'm in currently, and I
fake with no one regarding that.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
But what I do is I shift to see.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay, well I may not be able to contribute to
you monetarily, but I can contribute to you another way.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And it took me a while.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
To kind of see these shifts. And I'm gonna tell
you why, because so many people try to tell you
how to help them, too, right, And not only that,
society tries to tell you in what ways you should
deal with people, And so it's always that one track thing,
and then you see no other solutions, You see no
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other way of contribution, and so then a lot of
people fall back, a lot of people don't communicate.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
A lot of.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
People try to avoid that person because they know they're
not able and capable of helping that person in the
way that they're feeling like they need to be helped.
And so in that I encourage you, guys to find
other ways. If someone's coming to you about something, whether
it be emotionally, whether it be goal oriented, whether it
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be life, you know, just general things that people need.
If you can't help them one way, I encourage you
to find another way. Something even And I'll give you
another quick example. This is very similar to me walking
in Walmart and I'm looking at the produce department. Now
I see it. Did not see it before. So when
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I walked in, I was constantly grabbing at something else
for my snack and then not look at this department
at all. So in that when you guys are going
forward and someone is coming up to you, I had
another example and I just lost my example. Hold on
because I went back to produce.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I cannot.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I had a really good example too, but it'll come
back to me. But when you're looking for those solutions,
it just came back to me. There are people who
come to you and they say, hey, I can't find
a resource for Xyz. I'm looking for someone who can
help me with this, help me with that. Research is
another way to help a person, even if you're not
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someone who can fulfill that for someone. I have done
this even recently. I say, you know what, let me
look up some people for you. Let me look up
a solution for you. I can't do it, and that's
not what I'm able to do at the time. Whether
it be because of time, whether it be because of finances,
whether it be because a location, whatever the case may be.
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Then I would say, let me look it up for you,
let me give you a list, and hopefully this helps.
So there are so many ways that we can be
helpful to one another. And that is also a big
message here when it comes down to why so many secrets.
People are pulling back from sharing with their loved ones
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and sharing with the people around them who say that
they're there for them. But at the end of the day,
there is so much pulling away, so many things gone
unsaid because we are not trying to help each other
the way that is healthy. And we really need to
(28:45):
pray about this and start doing better when someone is hurting.
And I'm sure in Twitch's case, leading up to his
decision that he made in the circumstance that has been
put out in the public, I'm sure he was hurting.
And if that is the case, then he reached a
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point in that moment where he thought whatever was getting
ready to happen in his situation, or whatever was already
happening in his situation, whatever was already said, he thought
that he had reached a point of no return, and
that the most important person in his life at the time,
which is your spouse, that's the order of things, that
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person should be the one protecting you at all costs.
We should protect each other, you know, And there are
situations where you do have to cover yourself, and that's
very important. But we have to know when those times are,
and we can't just run in full own selfishness. We
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can't just stand there and say I'm only gonna look
out for me, period. So in that he felt like
the most important person in his life, and I'm sure
something went down. She was the last person who saw
him alive, So I'm sure something went down and something
(30:15):
was said, and only God knows what that is. But
in that he didn't feel safe, he didn't feel like
he can share, and he didn't feel like his outcome
would be the best outcome if he made some other decisions,
whether that be what the rumor has been as far
as divorce, or whether that would be separation, or whatever
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the case is. And a lot of good people end
up falling through the cracks because they are good people
and because they care, you know, so deeply and so
strongly about others, and because they encourage other people in
their goals and you know, in in their solutions to
solving problems that when it comes down to themselves, they
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feel like they have to do it for themselves all
the time. Now, I would be so bold as to
go into this and say, you, guys, I just I
hate I hate to say it, but I feel like
it needs to be said. If you have a circle
of people that you're in right now and y'all always y'all,
(31:26):
you are always exchanging these niceties and I love you,
but you don't feel safe and you feel like you
can't share anything with them, and you feel like for
whatever reason you can't, then it may be also a
(31:47):
very good thing to change your circle. A lot of
people are spending a lot of money in therapy to
stay in pretty bad relationships. And in my humblest opinion,
you guys, if you don't have one person around you
who can protect you, who you confide in, who will
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see you for who you are when you stand in
front of them instead of assuming, instead of you know,
brushing you off, it's probably gonna save you a lot
more money to change your circle and dial back from that.
Also take some time, just my recommendation and suggestion, take
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some time.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
To figure out what your definition of love is.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Some people can stay in these scenarios of not sharing
their true selves and you know, covering up their feelings
and emotions. They can stay in there forever because they
have a viewpoint on love.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
That's different, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
And they think that showing up simply is love, being
present is love, you know. But for me, and I'm
speaking to those who may be similar, I feel like
love is a lot deeper than that. And as a
receiver of it, as a receiver of love and as
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a giver of love, I understand that whatever I want,
I need to also contribute. And I want to end
it with this. You guys, we often talk about self
love and it starts there, right Your viewpoint on love
(33:37):
should be how you treat yourself, and in that how
you treat yourself will lead you into understanding how you
want to be treated by others. But also in love
and yourself, you understand how to treat others.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
And I have.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Never in my life seen so many people, I mean
so many say I really don't care how that person feels,
I really don't care how I've treated that person, and
then turn right around and get mad when the situation
is turned on them and the same thing happens to them.
(34:18):
So many people do not apply that rule that treats
others how you want to be treated is a real thing,
and we need to get back there. So I'm not
just talking to you guys today about watching your own
circle and getting to the bottom of who you can
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share with and getting a solution for those things that
you're holding eternally that may be causing some emotional distress
to you. But I'm also encouraging you guys to be
out on the lookout for how you receive others when
they're going through something similar.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Are you someone.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's approachable, who is able to open up and listen
to someone else who may be going through something. Are
you able to sit and listen to someone who's excited
about their goals and they're ready to move into something
and to achieve something in the future. Are you able
to encourage someone else in their comings and their goings.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
We have to be that. We need to start.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Setting better examples. And so with Alison Hulker, who has
dropped the bos's name, which there's a lot going on
between her and Twitch's family and it's so dogone unfortunate
you guys, But with her, I would ask her, if
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I knew her, would you want him to do the
same to you? Would you want him to expose your
diary if it really was your diary? Would you want
him to expose what was in your close if what
you found was really in his closet? How would you
want to be treated in this situation? It is really
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coming across that she was someone who did not care
about his feelings and his emotions, and usually a person
who goes to that extent. There are multiple reasons and
many deep reasons why people go there, but one of
them is when they feel unheard and feel unsafe, and
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when they feel like they have nothing left and that
they feel like there is something there with the people
that's close to them that has not been loving towards them.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
And people check out on each other all the time,
So you guys, check back in.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Seriously.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
If you've checked out, check in. Start listening more to others,
and start being a real friend, and start sharing some
true love and spend some time figuring out what that
means to you so that way people will not feel
(37:15):
the need to hold so many secrets and so many
issues that go unchecked. So those are my thoughts you
guys right now. It's a lot going on in the world,
and I will be coming back with a little bit more,
(37:36):
especially on politics, but I'm gonna leave you guys with
those thoughts for now. Think about it, take some time
with yourself this year, and if you have to make
some necessary changes to the people that you're around, and
also make some necessary changes to how you are around people.
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I'm just saying, And if you have any thoughts, you guys,
about this podcast, and you want to share any stories
with me or leave me a comment, feel free to
check the description of any platform that you're listening to
me on and you'll be able to drop me a comment.
For this particular episode, i'd be happy to hear from you.
Remember to keep your comments classy and professional, because that's
(38:20):
all we do over here. And until next time, you
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