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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we're getting hit with the biggest solar flares in
the last nineteen years.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, well, we'll see if the people can find us again,
because we had a lot of people on chat that
were back on so right, okay, but you know again
with this cave and these red hair giants and stuff
like that, and you know, I'm kind of familiar around
Renal boy. I used to ride my motorcycle there with
my sons and go up to Virginia City. Is it
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anywhere near Virginia City or yes?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yes, And there were some artifacts in Carson City that
came out of that cave as well. And the peoples
that inhabited around Lovelock Cave they were known from the Piutes.
They gave them different names that were known as the
conquerors and also as the people eaters. It was a
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tribe that were giants and they had red hair, and
they were cannibalistic. They would attack the other tribes in
that area and they would cannibalize their victims. Sometimes they
would even eat the dead. And finally the Piutes got
tired of being attacked and they banded together with other
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local tribes and they waged war on these giants that
lasted three years, and finally they cornered the last of
these giants at Lovelock Cave and they gave them an ultimatum.
They threw brush in front of the cave and they said,
why don't you live as men? And there was no
response that came out of the cave, and so the
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piotes lit flaming arrows and they caught the brush on
fire and burnt the giants to death.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Oh wow, how tall were these giants reported to be?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well? In one of the official archaeological records at Lovelock Cave,
there's very brief mention of actual skeletons that were found.
They did mention one that was six foot six inches tall,
and that mummy was actually given to a fraternal lodge
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to be boiled and used for initiation purposes, and that's
in the archaeological record. And all the other skeletons and
everything that came out of the cave disappeared out of
the public view. And I thought, I was shocked when
I read that. I thought, that is so strange that
all these skeletons that came out of the cave disappeared.
(02:30):
But there is reference one skeleton and it was given
to a fraternal lodge for goodness sake, to be used
in initiation purposes.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh boy, you know, we have lost so much important
history of different cultures because of different things like that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Absolutely. And also there, as I mentioned earlier, there are
skulls that allegedly came out of that cave that ended
up in a small museum called Humboldt Museum, and they
were never put on public display. They were kept in
cupboards and you had to ask the curator to look
at these skulls. And I thought that was very unusual.
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Why were these skulls never displayed? And a researcher by
the name of Don Monroe, about fifty years ago, he
was at that Humboldt Museum and the curator showed him
the skulls. He took a picture of one in particular,
and I have a photograph of it in my book,
and it was massive. You could see it next to
some smaller skulls, and it was huge. And in the
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upper row of teeth it had extra teeth called in
dental terms it's called super newmry teeth, so almost like
a double set of teeth. And I thought that is
so strange because I had read in other accounts of
these giants. Even in the Bible it talks about when
David and his mighty men were battling some of these giants.
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It references one giant in particular, he had a double
set of teeth and he had six digits on each hand.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That is very interesting. You know, in the Middle East,
you know, a lot of the service people came back,
you know, not the first time we were there with
a war, you know, in Iraq, but that the first
time actually, and they were talking about, you know, rumors
of giants.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yes, I think there was a story going around about
the Kandahar Giant. Are you referring to that where some
of the army soldiers actually killed one of these giants?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah? Is that similar to what we're talking about? It?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It is similar. I can't say for sure that that
was necessarily a true story, but the descriptions of it
was that it was a large giant, it had reddish hair,
and it was very violent, killed some of the soldiers
and it looked they found bones of other missing soldiers
in that cave, so it was cannibalistic and it sounds
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very similar to the red haired giants because they were cannibalistic,
and there was human bones found in that cave when
it was excavated, in the marrow had been sucked out.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh that tells you that they, you know, they had
some taste for you know, meat, you know, not just
in Reno, but you know in Idaho and Montana. They
have supposedly, at at different times, bound remains of giants all.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Over North America, and I document some of those in
my book. I actually include some of the articles. In
the Ohio Valley, there's a lot of these giant skeleton
discoveries associated with the mound building cultures of that area.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, has there ever been any DNA testing of any
of the remains of whatever they have left.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I don't think there has been, because the story with
that Gary is that a lot of times when these
these skeletons are discovered, even in the articles, it'll reference
orzations like the Smithsonian Institute showing up and confiscating the remains,
and then they're never seen again. And in fact, I've
came across a number of articles and I'll talk about those.
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In particular, there was one in Arizona where a rancher
found an enormous skull on his property and it was huge.
It was way beyond the size of a normal human skull.
And he reported it and the Smithsonian Institution dispatched two
agents to check this skull out. They took photos of it, measurements,
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and in the article it says it was incomprehensible, the
size beyond anything human. And they tried to acquire the
skull from this rancher and he refused to part with it.
In fact, I think the title of the article was
a man refuses to give giant skeleton to Smithsonian.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Did anything happen to the rancher or farmer.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That I don't know. I don't have any other documentation
of whatever happened to the rancher or whatever happened to
the skull that he had.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's a scary thing because when you think when they
have recovered the again, when they do recover it, you
think it would be put on display, but no, it disappears,
and then if you inquire about it, we don't know
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Absolutely, that's absolutely true, Gary, And there was another article
that I referenced. This was back in the late eighteen hundreds.
I believe his name was Fred Rawson acquired a giant
and it was a mummified giant. This was in California,
and it was close to nine feet tall, and he
put it. He acquired it from some miners who found it,
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and then he had a side show and he would
display this giant, and the Smithsonian caught wind of it,
and they actually sent some agents there to look at it.
They looked at this giant mummy almost nine feet tall,
and it had an elongated skull, which was another interesting
feature about it. And they purchased that mummy from Fred
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Ross and they gave him like five hundred dollars and
back then that's like equivalent to fourteen or fifteen thousand
dollars today.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And so they bought it from him, and then later
on they claim they tested the mummy and they said
that it was a fake and that it was gelatine.
And I thought it was so interesting Number one that
the Smithsonian has always come out and said, well, giants
aren't real, these these reports are false. Well if that's
the case, then why are you trying to acquire these things,
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and why are you paying a considerable amount of money
at the time to acquire them?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, the other thing they have a tendency doing, like
you mentioned, they discredit the findings and the person who
actually might found it. You know, again, there's people that
found giant skulls which are about three times the size
of a human and the same thing they take it
and never appears. The same with little people too, the
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same thing that they take the remains of that, and
then you know it did no record of it after.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That, Gary, You're absolutely right. And I ran into a
lot of that, and there was another article that I
included in there. It was about the discovery of a
giant skull in Texas, and I really wanted to highlight
this article because it had an actual photograph of the skull,
and you know, when you're researching on these giant skeleton discoveries,
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it is very hard to find any kind of photographic evidence.
But in this particular article, it shows the skull next
to two other normal size skulls. And Gary, this skull
was almost twice the size of these skulls, and that
skull disappeared. It disappeared, It was never really put on
public display. And I started researching it and found out
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that the University of Texas has the skull, and they
claim that, yes, we have this skull, but no, it's
not a giant skull. There was just a poor reconstruction
job done on it, and that's why it looks so big. Nah, right, right,
it didn't even pass the smell test. And I'm like,
wait a minute, I'm looking at the original newspaper article
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that came out about this back in I believe it
was the maybe it was the fifties, and it shows
a photograph of that giant skull next to normal sized skulls.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, I got to answer for you. You know what
it is, Floyd, What is it?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Garrett?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
They used to photographic in larger and enlarged it. Right there,
you go, bad joke, bad joke. Yeah, yeah, Well you
know again, you know, with these giants, how about other
American Native tribes? Do they have similar legends of red
hair giants?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's a good question, Gary.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
In fact, I reference in my book Clifford Mahoodi the
Lake Clifford Mahoodi. He was a zoo elder, and he
did speak about the red hair giants and that there
were other giants. In fact, most Native American tribes will
talk about giants and they'll also talk about little people
as well. And Clifford said that he had a friend
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that was an amateur archaeologist and he would go out
in the deserts of Nevada and other places, and he
knew where some of these burial grounds were of these
red hair giants, but he wouldn't tell anybody because he
knew what would happen if he did that. The archaeologists
would come in and they would they would confiscate the bones,
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and then they would they would disappear.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Again too with the bones, depending on you know, places
like in Idaho, Montana, which they have found bones. You know,
eventually they're going to go back to nothing. But you
know when you go to like places like Nevada and
places where it's dry, you know, or the Middle East, Yeah,
those things will last for centuries.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Mummified, right, yeah, naturally.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, and they don't degrade, you know, from the moisture
and all that stuff, which takes a toll on it.
But here's the thing with these ancient skeletons and all
this other stuff and all these other races, do they
kind of like well tie into any other folklore on
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the world of giants that had the similar the red hair,
because I know that the red hair giants in the
Middle East in Biblical times, the red hair giants.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yes, Gary, Yeah, there's mention of them all throughout the world.
I mean in the Bible itself. I mean, many people
are familiar with the story of David and Goliath, and
in the Bible itself it says that Goliath was a remnant,
a descendant of the Nephilim, and Nephilum is a proto
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Hebrew word mean fallen ones. And giants are mentioned a
lot in the Bible, if you if you know where
to look, and obviously one of the main places is
Genesis six, and I'm just paraphrasing it. There were giants
in the earth in those days, and thereafter when the
sons of God came into the daughters of men, they
bore them children, and they became mighty men, men of renowned.
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And after that passage then you start getting into where
the Lord is talking about how there was so much
of violence on the earth and man had become so
corrupted that he regretted that he created us, and that's
why he brought about the Great flood. Well, this ties
into a book, an apocryphal book that was left out
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of the Bible called the Book of Enoch. Are you
familiar with that?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh? Yes, right?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And in the Book of Enoch, Enoch he was a
great grandfather of Noah. And so Book of Enoch really
gets into the story of what happened, you know, what
happened with these giants? How did they come to be?
And in the Book of Enoch, it talks about a
group of two hundred watchers, which were angels that that
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made a pact with each other. They were fallen angels,
and they were attracted to the women of the earth,
and they came down to the earth and they interbred
with the women, and they taught mankind arts that that
God didn't want us to to know, knowledge that he
didn't want us to know. And what happened was these
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the women bore these giants. And I believe that that
is the Book of Enoch is kind of the backstory
to Genesis six where it says the sons of God, Well,
who were the sons of God? Right? I believe that
they were these fallen angels. And if if you look
in the Biblical text, particularly in job It taught, it
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makes references to the sons of God and there's one
reference where it says the sons of God approached the throne,
the throne of the Lord, and was with them, or
Satan was with them, right, so they approached the throne
of the Lord. These weren't humans that were approaching the
throne of the Lord. They were the sons of God.
They were angelic beings. And there's another reference as well
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that said at the creation of the foundations of the earth,
the sons of God shouted for joy, right, humankind wasn't around.
That's referring to angelic beings. So I believe that they
were the fallen ones. They were fallen angels, and they
intermixed their genetics with the human women, producing this race
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of giants. And the giants were violent and they were
subjugating the humans. They were waging war on humans amongst themselves.
The Book of Enoch even says they were corrupting the
plant and animal life, and then God wanted to wipe
them out, and so he brought the flood. And I
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also think that that ties back into the A six account.
There were giants in the earth, right, There was giants
in the earth, and then there were giants after so
there there were giants before the flood and there were
a remnant of them after the flood. And that's where
we get Goliath, right, Like individuals like Goliath or King
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Og of Bashan, he was another giant mentioned in the Bible.
He had a bed, an iron frame bed that was
thirteen feet long and about six feet wide to support
his girth.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Wow. But you know another thing too, why was the
giants feared? And they wanted also from what I have
researched I've done, they wanted to be worshiped by humans.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yes, yeah, they wanted to basically be worshiped like gods.
And they really did didn't treat humans well. And you
find that in a lot of different cultures, like in
South America. You find traditions like that as well, that
there were these giants. They were powerful, They made slaves
of the human They committed a lot of sin and
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then they were they were punished by God.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well too, didn't they kind of like breed humans at
one point or and and treat them like livestock for
their well dinner?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Absolutely they did. I mean the Red Hair giants of
Lovelock Cave they were cannibals. They would even dig pit
traps because in the native peoples in that area, they
would try to avoid them during the day and then
they would travel at night, and these red hair giants
would actually dig I remember you mentioned something about snake
holes earlier in the show in Nevada. Well, the red
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hair giants had their their pit traps where they would
you know, they would capture these other tribes people and
then they would they would cannibalize them.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
That is so scary too, you know, like the muckleshoet.
When I talked to the medicine woman, this is going
back maybe eight nine years ago, maybe even more and
getting old, you know. Even with the Bigfoot, she said
that they would come into the village and take the
squaws and the babies and run off with them, and
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then the warriors would go after them. And then at
times they would find remains of their loved ones, and
not just that, like they would be down like down
at the river like Washington clothes, and they would have
their babies down there with them. And again the Bigfoot
would come as a group and kidnapped the people, not
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just to kidnap them, but they loved eating them.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yes, yeah, that's very true. What's interesting. Another interesting aspect
of Lovelock Cave. Is not only some photographic evidence of
these giant skulls that are no longer around, because the
museum claim that they were removed probably about eight or
nine years ago from the nag Act. I'm not sure
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if you're familiar with that that was enacted in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Can you explain that to thee Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It was a Native American Graves and Repatriation Act, and
it was that was enacted back in the nineties. So
if an archaeological dig found like Native American remains, or
if a museum was displaying Native American remains, they had
to repeat repatriate those remains back to the tribes. So
a lot of the skeleton remains that were in museums
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were repatriated back to the tribes. And so when I
contacted the Humboldt Museum to go look at the skulls,
they said, we don't have them anymore. They were repatriated
and they're they're no longer here. So I wasn't able
to actually physically see the skulls, but I do have
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some photographic evidence from Don Monroe, some really good photos
of that particular giant skull that he saw about fifty
years ago.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Very interesting. Now, Floyd, we need to take a break.
It's about four minutes long. We're going to come back
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Speaker 1 (22:51):
Back with Boyd. Can I ask you a question, Could
there still be any well of these beings walking around
in the woods somewhere?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Gary, I think the answer to that question is yes.
I live in bigfoot country. I live in the Pacific Northwest,
and you know, when you think of bigfoot, I mean
they're described many times as being you know, seven foot
eight foot nine feet tall, So in fact, they are giants,
and I do believe in their existence. I have an
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next door neighbor who had two encounters with a bigfoot
about forty minutes from where I live, and they were
very detailed encounters with multiple witnesses, and he is a
very credible individual. So yeah, I believe that there are
giants that still walk among us today.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
And that is the scary part. You know, you're not
going to find him at your local campground. I can
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
No, definitely not, definitely not. There were some interesting artifacts
that came out of Lovelock Cave and one in particular
because we're kind of on the subject of bigfoot. I
was in communication with a Novaka out of state anthropologist,
and he sent me a photograph of an alleged bigfoot print,
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a huge footprint, and he had a Tooley sandal and
Tully is a water plant. It's a Tooley sandal that
came out of Lovelock Cave and it fit. It fit
that big footprint. And there is a documented archaeological account
of a sandal. I believe it was about seventeen inches
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in length, and I translated to the shoe size and
that comes out to about a size twenty nine foot
twenty nine shoe.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I don't even know any basketball players with that size.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
No. I looked at all the records and there was
nothing comparable to that.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Very interesting. Now, in this Lovelock Cave, is there any
drawings or anything inside the cave or any anything excellent question.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Gary, to my knowledge, there there was, and he mentioned
in the early discoveries of it, there are giant black
spots in the cave that looked like there was a fire,
a massive fire in the cave, which would correlate with
the description of the Payute shooting. The flaming arrows in there. Interesting,
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there were a couple of researchers, one of them being
Don Monroe, that did discover a huge handprint that was
on the cave wall a number of years back, and
then they went back to they photographed it, and I
have a photo of it in my book, and it's
a massive hand probably three times three or four times
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the size of a normal normal hand. And they came
back like a year later to look at that again
and the handprint was gone.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I wonder if somebody got in there and removed it. Yeah,
it kind of makes you wonder how about fire pits,
you know, because again I don't know if they had
they had the capability of fire, But if they did,
they you know, inside the cave where they were living,
maybe they were having and cooking their barbecue there.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Right, and we can guess what they were barbecuing.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Correct, Well it wasn't my aunt Bertha. But yeah, that's
the scary part too.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's the scary part in some of the Piute traditions. Today,
I heard an interview of a Piute lady that lives
in that area and so the stories that were passed
down to her. She said the favorite part that the giants,
red hair giants like to eat of the humans were
the thighs?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Oh, now have they es any excavations of the cave
that you're no knowledge of?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
There was a few. There was a year later after
the initial discovery in nineteen eleven, So on nineteen twelve
there was an excavation, and I think back in the
twenties there was excavation, and I believe there was another
one in the in the sixties. So there was a
lot of artifacts that came out, but none of the
skeletons were ever put on display. They just disappeared. And
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there was another couple other artifacts that were very interesting.
There was a giant pestle a grinding stone that was
found near the cave, and it was it was way
larger than your normal pestle. This pestle weighed between thirty
five and forty five pounds, and I remember reading an
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archaeological report on it, and even the archaeologist was saying,
this is much much larger pestle than we normally see.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, well, you'd have to be huge to use it.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You'd have to be massively strong to use that. And
I guess there was some other clothing woven clothing out
of these tuley plants that was very They were very large.
It looked like it fit a a very large person.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Well, again with the American natives who decided they had
enough and set fire at the you know, the front
of the cave to you know, to eliminate them. How
long is there any folklore how long that was going
on where these giants were, you know, just attacking them
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and taking them.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, I know that they said there was three years
of war with these giants. And in that area there
was a chief. His name was Chief Winnemucca, and he
had a daughter named Sarah Winnemacca. And Sarah she would
go around travel around. This was like the in the
eighteen hundreds and late eighteen hundreds, and she would do lectures,
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you know, talking to people about the Payu traditions. And
she even spoke about these bred haired giants, and she
said that she had a dress that was adorned with
the red hair of some of these giants.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Now did yeah again, what was the height of these
because I read i'll way up to seven eight feet tall?
You know, what was the average height reported of these sposedly?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, the pilots, you know, they said they were that
they were giant. In the archaeological record of the only
one skeleton that they mentioned is six foot six inches. However,
there was no other skeletons ever reported or shown to
the public other than that skull in Humboldt Museum that
was enormous that allegedly came out of that cave. Now,
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I think I found the newspaper article that corresponds to
that particular skull. It was found in a ranch near
that area, and in that newspaper article it said it
was close to eight feet in height and it still
had some red hair attached to the skull. And I
believe that that newspaper article I found is the back
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story for that one skull that was once housed in
Humboldt Museum. And interesting enough, Gary that when I started
studying that skull from Humboldt Museum, I compared it with
the skull that I referenced earlier in Texas. They called
it the morh skull, that big skull, you know, the
one they said they oh, it's big because they did
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a poor reconstruction job.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
And I looked at those two skulls and they had
I mean, they're almost identical, Gary, very very very similar
in structure with the massive jawbones, the cheek bones, and
the huge eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah. The eyes, that's what's really capitating when you see
one of these skulls or a picture of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
So this gets really interesting because these giant skulls now
kind of tie into a more recent discovery. In twenty
ten in Siberia, there was a discovery of a skull
and a knuckle or actually a tooth and a knucklebone
that came out of that cave. It's called the Denissvans.
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They say, the scientists say they are new species of us.
Have you heard of them? No?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Can you explain a little bit more what?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, you can, absolutely, Gary. Yeah. So that was back
in twenty ten in Siberia. They were excavating a cave
and the archaeologists found a tooth and it was so
large that he initially thought it was the tooth of
a cave bear, it was that big. And then he
found a rather large knucklebone. He did find some artifacts,
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a beautiful greenstone bracelet that had eight millimeters holes drilled
through it, and some other artifacts, and so the DNA
sequencing showed that it wasn't that tooth wasn't from a
cave bear, it was from a hominid, an upright walking,
you know, being, and that they could have been possibly
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very very huge. And then also there was a discovery
of a giant skull in China. I don't know if
you heard about that. It's called Homo longi or dragon skull.
This gentleman who was building a bridge, This was back
in the thirties. He was under forced labor by the
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Japanese in that area of China, and he found this skull,
this giant skull, and he hid it. He put it
in a well. And this man lived to a very
very old age, and on his deathbed he told his children,
he said, you know, I found this skull many years ago.
I put it in the well. This is where you
go find it. So they went and retrieved this skull
and it's huge, and they brought it to a local
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university there and they started doing testing. And these scientists
are saying that this corresponds that this is a this
is a skull of a Denise Evan and it matches
the DNA sequencing of the tooth and the knucklebone found
in Siberia.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That is very interesting were these giants actually gods?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Oh well, I don't. I don't think I don't think
so at all. Maybe they thought they were the god,
the gods with the little g's right, they weren't the
god in my book through the big g. But you know,
being a bigger stature and you know, massively strong, you
know that you can easily see how they would impose
their you know, impose their will upon those people around
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them and subjugate them. And most accounts of them is that,
you know, a lot of them were very evil. You know,
they were vile. The Bible talks about how evil the
giants were in many other cultures. I mean even in fairytale,
right Jack and the Beanstalk, you know these fairy tales, Right,
he wasn't he wasn't a nice giant. He said, what
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fee fi foux from? I smell the blood of an Englishman,
be he live or be he dead, I'll grind his
bones to make my bread. So even in fairy tales,
what does that link to cannibalism?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Right, it doesn't. Even in biblical times in the Bible
we talked about the giants, and you know, again, you know,
I again, I would think humans at that time frame.
Even even at love Locke, you know, the tribe around
there would look at them as maybe gods in a
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way from the standpoint, because you know, humans always had
to believe in some type of god, be it the
fire god, the water god, the god of the mountain,
the god of the volcano. That you know that without
believing in some type of god, humans would have no no,
no way, no place to go.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Well, that's a really interesting point, Gary, and you just
reminded me of another article that I found that I
included in my book, and I think it's in I
think it's in Nevada along a river, I think it's
called the Trucky River. But it mentioned a giant footprints
that were kind of fossilized near the near the riverbed,
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and the natives had Native Americans had a tradition that
they would keep those prints cleaned. If there was weeds
or anything overgrowing them, they would they would they would
clean it so they would keep those prints, you know,
so it would people could visibly see those prints. So
there was some type of respect or you know, some
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type of tradition to do that.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
But you know, when you really again what we talk about,
you know, what happened at Lovelock, you know, and the pockets,
you know, the same way like with Bigfoot. I believe
there's pockets all over the world of Bigfoot, you know,
out in the forests really deep. Again with the giants,
you know, I really think that, you know, just because
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they got killed off in love Lock or and other
supposedly situations, you know, I think that the odds are
some of them surviving is quite uh you know. And
then I really think that people would in some cases,
uh mix a Bigfoot with a giant.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Absolutely Gary and will look at look at Neanderthal for example.
Originally they were thought to have been killed out, but
really now with DNA testing and everything, we are finding
that they were probably a lot of them were killed out,
but they were really bred out right, because many of
us do have Neanderthal DNA in us, obviously some more
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than others.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Right, Ah, there's a lot of politicians do.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah. Yeah. And now I had mentioned the Denise Evans,
these these potential the potential hominid species that could have
been giants. They're finding out that they were interbreeding with
Neanderthal and and humans. So you have this inter mixinge
of DNA from these Denisovans and from Neanderthal and from
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our ancestors, all being intermixed, and what did that produce?
What hybrids did that produce?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Well, I think at advanced our human uh you know
what we are. I really do think we have that
mixture in us.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Mm. Well that Gary, that's it's a possibility. Because there
are still some people that have you know, gigantism. There
are people that have double rows of teeth. It's not
very common, but there are some people that have that
and and extra digits on their on their hands and toes.
I reference a particular tribe in South America in my
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book there were Ronnie tribe and they have high incidences
of a double set of teeth and six digits on
on their hands, and they're very violent their tribe. They're
you know, constant tribal warfare. Now not giant, you know,
as far as height wise, but it is interesting that
they have the double set of teeth and the extra
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digits on the hands.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well, again, you know, from interbreeding and all this stuff
over thousands of years, hundreds of years, I think that
could be the answer. And some of them are born
yet with the double roll of teeth and again, when
you think of double roll teeth, it's not from going
to eating corn, you know, or eating vegetation. It's about
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really consuming that steak.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Absolutely absolutely. And I did see a recent article on
the Homolongi skull that I mentioned in Siberia the Deniso Bean,
and now they also gave it another name called the
Harbin's skull. And what they did is based upon the
structure of this skull that they have out of China,
they reconstructed it to try to make it look like, well,
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what did this person look like? And so I saw
this article and the picture that looked like a Klingon
from Star Trek with a super super broad nose. It
looked almost exactly like a Klingon without the ridges on
the on the forehead.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
That's very interesting. But you know again, you know, like
when I was in high school, I was looking at
all these and we're talking, you know, years ago, but
you know again, I was looking at all these you know,
skeletons that are so called of giants, and we're talking
you know, seven eight nine feet tall giant skulls that
were three four times the size of my skull. So
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that you know, again with the wide eye opening the
you know the this again a mixture of like a
humanity and something else.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Right, an intermixing of DNA.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
How can we prove that these have existed? And is
there anybody out there trying to find if any of
them do exist? I mean there's people out looking all
the time for bigfoot dog men. Is there any groups
out there that you're aware of looking for giants?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I imagine that there are. I know there's a lot
with bigfoot. I mean even out in the area where
I live, there are a number of different groups. In fact,
I met an individual. He was a he was a
younger gentleman. He was an anthropologist, and he shared with
me he saw three bigfoot. He saw a mother and
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a few juveniles.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
And again, was he scared when he saw him? Did
he tell you?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
He didn't mention that he was scared. I mean, he
was obviously just he was stunned what he was witnessing.
I think this was in the past, like within the
past four or five years that this that this happened.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Well, here's the thing, even less bigfoot, and it would
tie into the giants too. You know a lot of
people look at them as almost like human They look
at him like they give off or they can telecommunicate.
They would never hurt a human being. Well, you know,
you know, my listeners know about my encounter. I didn't
have a friendly encounter. Look at how many people go
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missing deep in the forest all so there is things
out there we don't know. And I just can't believe
a civilization of giants could all totally die off the
same way then the case what bigfoot would be all died.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Off exactly, Gary, Well, David Polaidi's missing isn't missing for
one one?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:34):
He talks a lot about what you mentioned, Gary, with
all these disappearances in the national forests under sometimes very
very mysterious circumstances. What's all that about?
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Well, something that's going on, and why are these people
being found? And some of the weirdness again, you know,
a bigfoot is not a human, but again a giant
again could be classified as a hairy man, maybe a big, huge,
you know, hairy man. But again, some of these people,
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you know, in the four to one one that David
has wrote about is when they have found the remains
of the bodies, a lot of the time the clothes
are taken off, neatly folded and by the body, So
that takes intelligence.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
It takes intelligence. And if I remember correctly too, it's
like the searchers have already covered a certain area and
then they go back through and they find them in
that the very area that they had already previously searched.
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, And it's like they're planeted there, you know, just
to you know, to show it. But again, like in
this cave Lovelock, how again, how are these American natives taken?
Did the giants come running through the village and just
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grab the women and the babies or you know, do
they grab men too? Or was it women and babies
more their delicacy? I hate to use that word.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, I don't know the specifics on that, but I mean,
I know probably the paiute the parents would warn the children,
you know, not to stray too far away. So to me,
it would seem likely that they would try to first
go after the weaker, you know, the ones that they
can get too easily. But they were Sarah Winnemaka in
(43:29):
her accounts of these red hair giants, I mean, they
were fierce in battle. They would arrow shot at them,
they would they would try to catch the arrows they
were quick. They would try to catch the arrows and
shoot the arrows back at whoever was sending them their way.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
I'm going to take like one or two phone calls
if anybody wants to call in and ask Floyd a
question about these red hair giants again, you know the
phone line in fact, you know, just give us a
call and I'll put you on and you can add Floyd.
Question again with these giants, how can we prove that
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they really existed? I mean, what can we do as
individuals if we want to prove that they they did
have they were live.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, and that's you know, aside from I mean, it's
difficult if we can't have access to the actual remains. However,
we can just share research on the oral traditions, any
eyewitness accounts, any kind of documented evidence in the form
of you know, newspaper articles. That's kind of what I
tried to do in my book was just put forth
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the evidence that I came across and and not say
that yes, definitely, you know they exist. This is you know,
this is what this is just what I believe. And
I'm just sharing with you the evidence that I found
and the reader. I leave it up to the reader
to come to their own own conclusions. But I think
with okay, culturally throughout the world about John.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Okay, well, I think we're getting hit by the sun
spots because you're freezing up there. I think we have
a color. Who do we have?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
This is hi Barb. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I'm fine? You got a question for Floyd.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
Yeah, I've been wondering ever since you started talking about
the giants, is there any evidence in any of the
bones that they've found, or in any of the stories
from the plute that any of the giants were female?
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Good question. I haven't come across any any evidence that
they were female. There is some mention that some of
the skeletons that did come out of Lovelock Cave were
much smaller than the males. However, they were never put
on public display, but in the archaeological record it says
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that the females were definitely smaller than the males.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Well, that was a good question, Barb. And who do
we have On the other line? Here we got Ladie
hi Art, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Okay, Okay, Yeah, this is a subject that I don't
have too much on, but I watched a few shows
on television where the people the witness said that they
would see something like a sasquatch or something hairy, and
then they would see when they try to chase it,
it would get a green flash and then they wouldn't
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find it would disappear. Would My question would be do
they have or they would be there and then they
would fall asleep. They'd be like if they were mind controlled?
Is there any relations to that with the Red Giants?
And I'll betake up there.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
That's an excellent, excellent question. And I didn't come across
anything except it brings me back to I mentioned earlier.
I had interviewed my neighbor that encountered a bigfoot, and
he did meant that he found he felt like something
was going on with his mind when he was during
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this second encounter he said. He told me, he said, Floyd,
it's like something was messing with my mind.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Very interesting. Now, Floyd, do you have a website or
a book or anything you want to share?
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yes? Absolutely, my website said www dot Redhaired Giants dot com.
And on that website, I have a chapter breakdown of
my book. It'll give you a lot more information on
what's in there? And also you can purchase my book
at BookBaby dot com. I'm a self published author and
so if people are interested in my book, I'd appreciate
(47:54):
it if you go there and purchase it because book
baby really supports self published authors, and you could also
get it on Amazon as well.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Okay, I think we got one more color before we
end the show. Who do we have?
Speaker 6 (48:06):
This is Tom?
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Hi? Tom? Are you staying out of trouble on a
Saturday night?
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (48:13):
I'm too sick to do anything else.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I thought you were getting better.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
I am getting better, but I'm not over it yet.
So probably another forty eight hours and I'll be getting
into trouble.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
You got a question for Floyd?
Speaker 7 (48:26):
Yeah, quickly.
Speaker 6 (48:27):
I've read several accounts, and I don't know how credible
they are.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Leus.
Speaker 6 (48:32):
I've seen a documentary on YouTube about the red haired
Candahar Giant that allegedly took out a squad of US infantrymen,
and it took another squad to go win, and they
had to expend most of their ammunition to finally take
this thing down, and they ended up taking the body
and putting it on and taking it to right pat
(48:53):
Air Force Base do you know anything about that.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
I have heard the story. I did watch it interview
of one of the alleged soldiers that was involved with that.
His face was kind of blacked out on the interview.
But at the time I I forwarded that that interview
to a friend of mine who is a counterintelligence agent
for the army, and I just wanted his opinion on it.
(49:18):
And what he told me was that that man that
they were interviewing regarding the Red Hair Giant incident, he
said that that man believed in what he was saying.
He seemed he seemed like there was some credibility. But
that's that's pretty much all that he said. So it's
kind of hard, you know, evidence wise, if it's just
you know, you're you're you're getting the story from from
(49:41):
different people, and you don't you don't really have too
much beyond that. But I definitely hold out the possibility
that really happened.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Okay, Oh, thank you Tom, thank you well, Hey, Floyd,
I want to thank you so much for coming on
the show here tonight. That hour just went by so fast.
You know, if you get a hold of my producer,
send them over the links and stuff of your book.
I will put it up on our website.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Thank you so much, Gary, it's been an absolute pleasure.
I had a blast, and thanks again to your audience
for tuning in. That hour flew by really quick.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Well it's a lot better than talking about Bigfoot, so
I mean, yeah, we covered a lot. My feeling is, honestly, Floyd.
I think somewhere deep in the woods, somewhere someplace, that
these giants still exist.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
I would agree with you, Gary, I really do. I
think there's a remnant of them left.
Speaker 7 (50:39):
I do.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
My friend, you take care, will you?
Speaker 2 (50:42):
You take good care? Gary, It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Okay, my friend, you take care.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Bubbe bye.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Well you know what, we're going to be ending the
show here shortly, but if you really look at it,
we're going to start doing this like every other Saturday.
If we get enough people will do it every Saturday.
That's up to you. But you know, again, we want
to make the show really intriguing. Have you noticed the
quality of our guests have really gone up and we're
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It's not over yet, but we're getting hit with the
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That wasn't on my end. He throws up, and I
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, well, we'll see if the people can find us again,
because we had a lot of people on chat that
were back on so right, okay, but you know again
with this cave and these red hair giants and stuff
like that, and you know, I'm kind of familiar around
Renal boy. I used to ride my motorcycle there with
my sons and go up to Virginia City. Is it
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anywhere near Virginia City or yes?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yes, And there were some artifacts in Carson City that
came out of that cave as well. And the peoples
that inhabited around Lovelock Cave they were known from the Piutes.
They gave them different names that were known as the
conquerors and also as the people eaters. It was a
(00:54):
tribe that were giants and they had red hair, and
they were cannibalistic. They would attack the other tribes in
that area and they would cannibalize their victims. Sometimes they
would even eat the dead. And finally the Piutes got
tired of being attacked and they banded together with other
(01:14):
local tribes and they waged war on these giants that
lasted three years, and finally they cornered the last of
these giants at Lovelock Cave and they gave them an ultimatum.
They threw brush in front of the cave and they said,
why don't you live as men? And there was no
response that came out of the cave, and so the
(01:36):
piotes lit flaming arrows and they caught the brush on
fire and burnt the giants to death.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Oh wow, how tall were these giants reported to be?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well? In one of the official archaeological records at Lovelock Cave,
there's very brief mention of actual skeletons that were found.
They did mention one that was six foot six inches tall,
and that mummy was actually given to a fraternal lodge
(02:10):
to be boiled and used for initiation purposes, and that's
in the archaeological record. And all the other skeletons and
everything that came out of the cave disappeared out of
the public view. And I thought, I was shocked when
I read that. I thought, that is so strange that
all these skeletons that came out of the cave disappeared.
(02:30):
But there is reference one skeleton and it was given
to a fraternal lodge for goodness sake, to be used
in initiation purposes.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh boy, you know, we have lost so much important
history of different cultures because of different things like that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Absolutely. And also there, as I mentioned earlier, there are
skulls that allegedly came out of that cave that ended
up in a small museum called Humboldt Museum, and they
were never put on public display. They were kept in
cupboards and you had to ask the curator to look
at these skulls. And I thought that was very unusual.
(03:10):
Why were these skulls never displayed? And a researcher by
the name of Don Monroe, about fifty years ago, he
was at that Humboldt Museum and the curator showed him
the skulls. He took a picture of one in particular,
and I have a photograph of it in my book,
and it was massive. You could see it next to
some smaller skulls, and it was huge. And in the
(03:33):
upper row of teeth it had extra teeth called in
dental terms it's called super newmry teeth, so almost like
a double set of teeth. And I thought that is
so strange because I had read in other accounts of
these giants. Even in the Bible it talks about when
David and his mighty men were battling some of these giants.
(03:56):
It references one giant in particular, he had a double
set of teeth and he had six digits on each hand.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That is very interesting. You know, in the Middle East,
you know, a lot of the service people came back,
you know, not the first time we were there with
a war, you know, in Iraq, but that the first
time actually, and they were talking about, you know, rumors
of giants.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yes, I think there was a story going around about
the Kandahar Giant. Are you referring to that where some
of the army soldiers actually killed one of these giants?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah? Is that similar to what we're talking about? It?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It is similar. I can't say for sure that that
was necessarily a true story, but the descriptions of it
was that it was a large giant, it had reddish hair,
and it was very violent, killed some of the soldiers
and it looked they found bones of other missing soldiers
in that cave, so it was cannibalistic and it sounds
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very similar to the red haired giants because they were cannibalistic,
and there was human bones found in that cave when
it was excavated, in the marrow had been sucked out.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh that tells you that they, you know, they had
some taste for you know, meat, you know, not just
in Reno, but you know in Idaho and Montana. They
have supposedly, at at different times, bound remains of giants all.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Over North America, and I document some of those in
my book. I actually include some of the articles. In
the Ohio Valley, there's a lot of these giant skeleton
discoveries associated with the mound building cultures of that area.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, has there ever been any DNA testing of any
of the remains of whatever they have left.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I don't think there has been, because the story with
that Gary is that a lot of times when these
these skeletons are discovered, even in the articles, it'll reference
orzations like the Smithsonian Institute showing up and confiscating the remains,
and then they're never seen again. And in fact, I've
came across a number of articles and I'll talk about those.
(06:12):
In particular, there was one in Arizona where a rancher
found an enormous skull on his property and it was huge.
It was way beyond the size of a normal human skull.
And he reported it and the Smithsonian Institution dispatched two
agents to check this skull out. They took photos of it, measurements,
(06:34):
and in the article it says it was incomprehensible, the
size beyond anything human. And they tried to acquire the
skull from this rancher and he refused to part with it.
In fact, I think the title of the article was
a man refuses to give giant skeleton to Smithsonian.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Did anything happen to the rancher or farmer.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That I don't know. I don't have any other documentation
of whatever happened to the rancher or whatever happened to
the skull that he had.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's a scary thing because when you think when they
have recovered the again, when they do recover it, you
think it would be put on display, but no, it disappears,
and then if you inquire about it, we don't know
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Absolutely, that's absolutely true, Gary, And there was another article
that I referenced. This was back in the late eighteen hundreds.
I believe his name was Fred Rawson acquired a giant
and it was a mummified giant. This was in California,
and it was close to nine feet tall, and he
put it. He acquired it from some miners who found it,
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and then he had a side show and he would
display this giant, and the Smithsonian caught wind of it,
and they actually sent some agents there to look at it.
They looked at this giant mummy almost nine feet tall,
and it had an elongated skull, which was another interesting
feature about it. And they purchased that mummy from Fred
(08:05):
Ross and they gave him like five hundred dollars and
back then that's like equivalent to fourteen or fifteen thousand
dollars today.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And so they bought it from him, and then later
on they claim they tested the mummy and they said
that it was a fake and that it was gelatine.
And I thought it was so interesting Number one that
the Smithsonian has always come out and said, well, giants
aren't real, these these reports are false. Well if that's
the case, then why are you trying to acquire these things,
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and why are you paying a considerable amount of money
at the time to acquire them?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, the other thing they have a tendency doing, like
you mentioned, they discredit the findings and the person who
actually might found it. You know, again, there's people that
found giant skulls which are about three times the size
of a human and the same thing they take it
and never appears. The same with little people too, the
(09:03):
same thing that they take the remains of that, and
then you know it did no record of it after.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That, Gary, You're absolutely right. And I ran into a
lot of that, and there was another article that I
included in there. It was about the discovery of a
giant skull in Texas, and I really wanted to highlight
this article because it had an actual photograph of the skull,
and you know, when you're researching on these giant skeleton discoveries,
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it is very hard to find any kind of photographic evidence.
But in this particular article, it shows the skull next
to two other normal size skulls. And Gary, this skull
was almost twice the size of these skulls, and that
skull disappeared. It disappeared, It was never really put on
public display. And I started researching it and found out
(09:55):
that the University of Texas has the skull, and they
claim that, yes, we have this skull, but no, it's
not a giant skull. There was just a poor reconstruction
job done on it, and that's why it looks so big. Nah, right, right,
it didn't even pass the smell test. And I'm like,
wait a minute, I'm looking at the original newspaper article
(10:18):
that came out about this back in I believe it
was the maybe it was the fifties, and it shows
a photograph of that giant skull next to normal sized skulls.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, I got to answer for you. You know what
it is, Floyd, What is it?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Garrett?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
They used to photographic in larger and enlarged it. Right there,
you go, bad joke, bad joke. Yeah, yeah, Well you
know again, you know, with these giants, how about other
American Native tribes? Do they have similar legends of red
hair giants?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's a good question, Gary.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
In fact, I reference in my book Clifford Mahoodi the
Lake Clifford Mahoodi. He was a zoo elder, and he
did speak about the red hair giants and that there
were other giants. In fact, most Native American tribes will
talk about giants and they'll also talk about little people
as well. And Clifford said that he had a friend
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that was an amateur archaeologist and he would go out
in the deserts of Nevada and other places, and he
knew where some of these burial grounds were of these
red hair giants, but he wouldn't tell anybody because he
knew what would happen if he did that. The archaeologists
would come in and they would they would confiscate the bones,
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and then they would they would disappear.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Again too with the bones, depending on you know, places
like in Idaho, Montana, which they have found bones. You know,
eventually they're going to go back to nothing. But you
know when you go to like places like Nevada and
places where it's dry, you know, or the Middle East, Yeah,
those things will last for centuries.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Mummified, right, yeah, naturally.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, and they don't degrade, you know, from the moisture
and all that stuff, which takes a toll on it.
But here's the thing with these ancient skeletons and all
this other stuff and all these other races, do they
kind of like well tie into any other folklore on
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the world of giants that had the similar the red hair,
because I know that the red hair giants in the
Middle East in Biblical times, the red hair giants.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yes, Gary, Yeah, there's mention of them all throughout the world.
I mean in the Bible itself. I mean, many people
are familiar with the story of David and Goliath, and
in the Bible itself it says that Goliath was a remnant,
a descendant of the Nephilim, and Nephilum is a proto
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Hebrew word mean fallen ones. And giants are mentioned a
lot in the Bible, if you if you know where
to look, and obviously one of the main places is
Genesis six, and I'm just paraphrasing it. There were giants
in the earth in those days, and thereafter when the
sons of God came into the daughters of men, they
bore them children, and they became mighty men, men of renowned.
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And after that passage then you start getting into where
the Lord is talking about how there was so much
of violence on the earth and man had become so
corrupted that he regretted that he created us, and that's
why he brought about the Great flood. Well, this ties
into a book, an apocryphal book that was left out
(13:37):
of the Bible called the Book of Enoch. Are you
familiar with that?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh? Yes, right?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And in the Book of Enoch, Enoch he was a
great grandfather of Noah. And so Book of Enoch really
gets into the story of what happened, you know, what
happened with these giants? How did they come to be?
And in the Book of Enoch, it talks about a
group of two hundred watchers, which were angels that that
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made a pact with each other. They were fallen angels,
and they were attracted to the women of the earth,
and they came down to the earth and they interbred
with the women, and they taught mankind arts that that
God didn't want us to to know, knowledge that he
didn't want us to know. And what happened was these
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the women bore these giants. And I believe that that
is the Book of Enoch is kind of the backstory
to Genesis six where it says the sons of God, Well,
who were the sons of God? Right? I believe that
they were these fallen angels. And if if you look
in the Biblical text, particularly in job It taught, it
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makes references to the sons of God and there's one
reference where it says the sons of God approached the throne,
the throne of the Lord, and was with them, or
Satan was with them, right, so they approached the throne
of the Lord. These weren't humans that were approaching the
throne of the Lord. They were the sons of God.
They were angelic beings. And there's another reference as well
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that said at the creation of the foundations of the earth,
the sons of God shouted for joy, right, humankind wasn't around.
That's referring to angelic beings. So I believe that they
were the fallen ones. They were fallen angels, and they
intermixed their genetics with the human women, producing this race
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of giants. And the giants were violent and they were
subjugating the humans. They were waging war on humans amongst themselves.
The Book of Enoch even says they were corrupting the
plant and animal life, and then God wanted to wipe
them out, and so he brought the flood. And I
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also think that that ties back into the A six account.
There were giants in the earth, right, There was giants
in the earth, and then there were giants after so
there there were giants before the flood and there were
a remnant of them after the flood. And that's where
we get Goliath, right, Like individuals like Goliath or King
(16:19):
Og of Bashan, he was another giant mentioned in the Bible.
He had a bed, an iron frame bed that was
thirteen feet long and about six feet wide to support
his girth.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Wow. But you know another thing too, why was the
giants feared? And they wanted also from what I have
researched I've done, they wanted to be worshiped by humans.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yes, yeah, they wanted to basically be worshiped like gods.
And they really did didn't treat humans well. And you
find that in a lot of different cultures, like in
South America. You find traditions like that as well, that
there were these giants. They were powerful, They made slaves
of the human They committed a lot of sin and
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then they were they were punished by God.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well too, didn't they kind of like breed humans at
one point or and and treat them like livestock for
their well dinner?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Absolutely they did. I mean the Red Hair giants of
Lovelock Cave they were cannibals. They would even dig pit
traps because in the native peoples in that area, they
would try to avoid them during the day and then
they would travel at night, and these red hair giants
would actually dig I remember you mentioned something about snake
holes earlier in the show in Nevada. Well, the red
(17:43):
hair giants had their their pit traps where they would
you know, they would capture these other tribes people and
then they would they would cannibalize them.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
That is so scary too, you know, like the muckleshoet.
When I talked to the medicine woman, this is going
back maybe eight nine years ago, maybe even more and
getting old, you know. Even with the Bigfoot, she said
that they would come into the village and take the
squaws and the babies and run off with them, and
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then the warriors would go after them. And then at
times they would find remains of their loved ones, and
not just that, like they would be down like down
at the river like Washington clothes, and they would have
their babies down there with them. And again the Bigfoot
would come as a group and kidnapped the people, not
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just to kidnap them, but they loved eating them.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yes, yeah, that's very true. What's interesting. Another interesting aspect
of Lovelock Cave. Is not only some photographic evidence of
these giant skulls that are no longer around, because the
museum claim that they were removed probably about eight or
nine years ago from the nag Act. I'm not sure
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if you're familiar with that that was enacted in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Can you explain that to thee Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It was a Native American Graves and Repatriation Act, and
it was that was enacted back in the nineties. So
if an archaeological dig found like Native American remains, or
if a museum was displaying Native American remains, they had
to repeat repatriate those remains back to the tribes. So
a lot of the skeleton remains that were in museums
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were repatriated back to the tribes. And so when I
contacted the Humboldt Museum to go look at the skulls,
they said, we don't have them anymore. They were repatriated
and they're they're no longer here. So I wasn't able
to actually physically see the skulls, but I do have
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some photographic evidence from Don Monroe, some really good photos
of that particular giant skull that he saw about fifty
years ago.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Very interesting. Now, Floyd, we need to take a break.
It's about four minutes long. We're going to come back
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Speaker 1 (22:51):
Back with Boyd. Can I ask you a question, Could
there still be any well of these beings walking around
in the woods somewhere?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Gary, I think the answer to that question is yes.
I live in bigfoot country. I live in the Pacific Northwest,
and you know, when you think of bigfoot, I mean
they're described many times as being you know, seven foot
eight foot nine feet tall, So in fact, they are giants,
and I do believe in their existence. I have an
(23:22):
next door neighbor who had two encounters with a bigfoot
about forty minutes from where I live, and they were
very detailed encounters with multiple witnesses, and he is a
very credible individual. So yeah, I believe that there are
giants that still walk among us today.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
And that is the scary part. You know, you're not
going to find him at your local campground. I can
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
No, definitely not, definitely not. There were some interesting artifacts
that came out of Lovelock Cave and one in particular
because we're kind of on the subject of bigfoot. I
was in communication with a Novaka out of state anthropologist,
and he sent me a photograph of an alleged bigfoot print,
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a huge footprint, and he had a Tooley sandal and
Tully is a water plant. It's a Tooley sandal that
came out of Lovelock Cave and it fit. It fit
that big footprint. And there is a documented archaeological account
of a sandal. I believe it was about seventeen inches
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in length, and I translated to the shoe size and
that comes out to about a size twenty nine foot
twenty nine shoe.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I don't even know any basketball players with that size.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
No. I looked at all the records and there was
nothing comparable to that.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Very interesting. Now, in this Lovelock Cave, is there any
drawings or anything inside the cave or any anything excellent question.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Gary, to my knowledge, there there was, and he mentioned
in the early discoveries of it, there are giant black
spots in the cave that looked like there was a fire,
a massive fire in the cave, which would correlate with
the description of the Payute shooting. The flaming arrows in there. Interesting,
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there were a couple of researchers, one of them being
Don Monroe, that did discover a huge handprint that was
on the cave wall a number of years back, and
then they went back to they photographed it, and I
have a photo of it in my book, and it's
a massive hand probably three times three or four times
(25:41):
the size of a normal normal hand. And they came
back like a year later to look at that again
and the handprint was gone.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I wonder if somebody got in there and removed it. Yeah,
it kind of makes you wonder how about fire pits,
you know, because again I don't know if they had
they had the capability of fire, But if they did,
they you know, inside the cave where they were living,
maybe they were having and cooking their barbecue there.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Right, and we can guess what they were barbecuing.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Correct, Well it wasn't my aunt Bertha. But yeah, that's
the scary part too.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's the scary part in some of the Piute traditions. Today,
I heard an interview of a Piute lady that lives
in that area and so the stories that were passed
down to her. She said the favorite part that the giants,
red hair giants like to eat of the humans were
the thighs?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Oh, now have they es any excavations of the cave
that you're no knowledge of?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
There was a few. There was a year later after
the initial discovery in nineteen eleven, So on nineteen twelve
there was an excavation, and I think back in the
twenties there was excavation, and I believe there was another
one in the in the sixties. So there was a
lot of artifacts that came out, but none of the
skeletons were ever put on display. They just disappeared. And
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there was another couple other artifacts that were very interesting.
There was a giant pestle a grinding stone that was
found near the cave, and it was it was way
larger than your normal pestle. This pestle weighed between thirty
five and forty five pounds, and I remember reading an
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archaeological report on it, and even the archaeologist was saying,
this is much much larger pestle than we normally see.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, well, you'd have to be huge to use it.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You'd have to be massively strong to use that. And
I guess there was some other clothing woven clothing out
of these tuley plants that was very They were very large.
It looked like it fit a a very large person.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Well, again with the American natives who decided they had
enough and set fire at the you know, the front
of the cave to you know, to eliminate them. How
long is there any folklore how long that was going
on where these giants were, you know, just attacking them
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and taking them.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, I know that they said there was three years
of war with these giants. And in that area there
was a chief. His name was Chief Winnemucca, and he
had a daughter named Sarah Winnemacca. And Sarah she would
go around travel around. This was like the in the
eighteen hundreds and late eighteen hundreds, and she would do lectures,
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you know, talking to people about the Payu traditions. And
she even spoke about these bred haired giants, and she
said that she had a dress that was adorned with
the red hair of some of these giants.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Now did yeah again, what was the height of these
because I read i'll way up to seven eight feet tall?
You know, what was the average height reported of these sposedly?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, the pilots, you know, they said they were that
they were giant. In the archaeological record of the only
one skeleton that they mentioned is six foot six inches. However,
there was no other skeletons ever reported or shown to
the public other than that skull in Humboldt Museum that
was enormous that allegedly came out of that cave. Now,
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I think I found the newspaper article that corresponds to
that particular skull. It was found in a ranch near
that area, and in that newspaper article it said it
was close to eight feet in height and it still
had some red hair attached to the skull. And I
believe that that newspaper article I found is the back
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story for that one skull that was once housed in
Humboldt Museum. And interesting enough, Gary that when I started
studying that skull from Humboldt Museum, I compared it with
the skull that I referenced earlier in Texas. They called
it the morh skull, that big skull, you know, the
one they said they oh, it's big because they did
(30:21):
a poor reconstruction job.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
And I looked at those two skulls and they had
I mean, they're almost identical, Gary, very very very similar
in structure with the massive jawbones, the cheek bones, and
the huge eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah. The eyes, that's what's really capitating when you see
one of these skulls or a picture of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
So this gets really interesting because these giant skulls now
kind of tie into a more recent discovery. In twenty
ten in Siberia, there was a discovery of a skull
and a knuckle or actually a tooth and a knucklebone
that came out of that cave. It's called the Denissvans.
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They say, the scientists say they are new species of us.
Have you heard of them? No?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Can you explain a little bit more what?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, you can, absolutely, Gary. Yeah. So that was back
in twenty ten in Siberia. They were excavating a cave
and the archaeologists found a tooth and it was so
large that he initially thought it was the tooth of
a cave bear, it was that big. And then he
found a rather large knucklebone. He did find some artifacts,
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a beautiful greenstone bracelet that had eight millimeters holes drilled
through it, and some other artifacts, and so the DNA
sequencing showed that it wasn't that tooth wasn't from a
cave bear, it was from a hominid, an upright walking,
you know, being, and that they could have been possibly
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very very huge. And then also there was a discovery
of a giant skull in China. I don't know if
you heard about that. It's called Homo longi or dragon skull.
This gentleman who was building a bridge, This was back
in the thirties. He was under forced labor by the
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Japanese in that area of China, and he found this skull,
this giant skull, and he hid it. He put it
in a well. And this man lived to a very
very old age, and on his deathbed he told his children,
he said, you know, I found this skull many years ago.
I put it in the well. This is where you
go find it. So they went and retrieved this skull
and it's huge, and they brought it to a local
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university there and they started doing testing. And these scientists
are saying that this corresponds that this is a this
is a skull of a Denise Evan and it matches
the DNA sequencing of the tooth and the knucklebone found
in Siberia.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That is very interesting were these giants actually gods?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Oh well, I don't. I don't think I don't think
so at all. Maybe they thought they were the god,
the gods with the little g's right, they weren't the
god in my book through the big g. But you know,
being a bigger stature and you know, massively strong, you
know that you can easily see how they would impose
their you know, impose their will upon those people around
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them and subjugate them. And most accounts of them is that,
you know, a lot of them were very evil. You know,
they were vile. The Bible talks about how evil the
giants were in many other cultures. I mean even in fairytale,
right Jack and the Beanstalk, you know these fairy tales, Right,
he wasn't he wasn't a nice giant. He said, what
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fee fi foux from? I smell the blood of an Englishman,
be he live or be he dead, I'll grind his
bones to make my bread. So even in fairy tales,
what does that link to cannibalism?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Right, it doesn't. Even in biblical times in the Bible
we talked about the giants, and you know, again, you know,
I again, I would think humans at that time frame.
Even even at love Locke, you know, the tribe around
there would look at them as maybe gods in a
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way from the standpoint, because you know, humans always had
to believe in some type of god, be it the
fire god, the water god, the god of the mountain,
the god of the volcano. That you know that without
believing in some type of god, humans would have no no,
no way, no place to go.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Well, that's a really interesting point, Gary, and you just
reminded me of another article that I found that I
included in my book, and I think it's in I
think it's in Nevada along a river, I think it's
called the Trucky River. But it mentioned a giant footprints
that were kind of fossilized near the near the riverbed,
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and the natives had Native Americans had a tradition that
they would keep those prints cleaned. If there was weeds
or anything overgrowing them, they would they would they would
clean it so they would keep those prints, you know,
so it would people could visibly see those prints. So
there was some type of respect or you know, some
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type of tradition to do that.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
But you know, when you really again what we talk about,
you know, what happened at Lovelock, you know, and the pockets,
you know, the same way like with Bigfoot. I believe
there's pockets all over the world of Bigfoot, you know,
out in the forests really deep. Again with the giants,
you know, I really think that, you know, just because
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they got killed off in love Lock or and other
supposedly situations, you know, I think that the odds are
some of them surviving is quite uh you know. And
then I really think that people would in some cases,
uh mix a Bigfoot with a giant.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Absolutely Gary and will look at look at Neanderthal for example.
Originally they were thought to have been killed out, but
really now with DNA testing and everything, we are finding
that they were probably a lot of them were killed out,
but they were really bred out right, because many of
us do have Neanderthal DNA in us, obviously some more
(36:35):
than others.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Right, Ah, there's a lot of politicians do.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah. Yeah. And now I had mentioned the Denise Evans,
these these potential the potential hominid species that could have
been giants. They're finding out that they were interbreeding with
Neanderthal and and humans. So you have this inter mixinge
of DNA from these Denisovans and from Neanderthal and from
(37:04):
our ancestors, all being intermixed, and what did that produce?
What hybrids did that produce?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Well, I think at advanced our human uh you know
what we are. I really do think we have that
mixture in us.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Mm. Well that Gary, that's it's a possibility. Because there
are still some people that have you know, gigantism. There
are people that have double rows of teeth. It's not
very common, but there are some people that have that
and and extra digits on their on their hands and toes.
I reference a particular tribe in South America in my
(37:44):
book there were Ronnie tribe and they have high incidences
of a double set of teeth and six digits on
on their hands, and they're very violent their tribe. They're
you know, constant tribal warfare. Now not giant, you know,
as far as height wise, but it is interesting that
they have the double set of teeth and the extra
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digits on the hands.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well, again, you know, from interbreeding and all this stuff
over thousands of years, hundreds of years, I think that
could be the answer. And some of them are born
yet with the double roll of teeth and again, when
you think of double roll teeth, it's not from going
to eating corn, you know, or eating vegetation. It's about
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really consuming that steak.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Absolutely absolutely. And I did see a recent article on
the Homolongi skull that I mentioned in Siberia the Deniso Bean,
and now they also gave it another name called the
Harbin's skull. And what they did is based upon the
structure of this skull that they have out of China,
they reconstructed it to try to make it look like, well,
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what did this person look like? And so I saw
this article and the picture that looked like a Klingon
from Star Trek with a super super broad nose. It
looked almost exactly like a Klingon without the ridges on
the on the forehead.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
That's very interesting. But you know again, you know, like
when I was in high school, I was looking at
all these and we're talking, you know, years ago, but
you know again, I was looking at all these you know,
skeletons that are so called of giants, and we're talking
you know, seven eight nine feet tall giant skulls that
were three four times the size of my skull. So
(39:34):
that you know, again with the wide eye opening the
you know the this again a mixture of like a
humanity and something else.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Right, an intermixing of DNA.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
How can we prove that these have existed? And is
there anybody out there trying to find if any of
them do exist? I mean there's people out looking all
the time for bigfoot dog men. Is there any groups
out there that you're aware of looking for giants?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I imagine that there are. I know there's a lot
with bigfoot. I mean even out in the area where
I live, there are a number of different groups. In fact,
I met an individual. He was a he was a
younger gentleman. He was an anthropologist, and he shared with
me he saw three bigfoot. He saw a mother and
(40:29):
a few juveniles.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
And again, was he scared when he saw him? Did
he tell you?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
He didn't mention that he was scared. I mean, he
was obviously just he was stunned what he was witnessing.
I think this was in the past, like within the
past four or five years that this that this happened.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Well, here's the thing, even less bigfoot, and it would
tie into the giants too. You know a lot of
people look at them as almost like human They look
at him like they give off or they can telecommunicate.
They would never hurt a human being. Well, you know,
you know, my listeners know about my encounter. I didn't
have a friendly encounter. Look at how many people go
(41:11):
missing deep in the forest all so there is things
out there we don't know. And I just can't believe
a civilization of giants could all totally die off the
same way then the case what bigfoot would be all died.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Off exactly, Gary, Well, David Polaidi's missing isn't missing for
one one?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:34):
He talks a lot about what you mentioned, Gary, with
all these disappearances in the national forests under sometimes very
very mysterious circumstances. What's all that about?
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Well, something that's going on, and why are these people
being found? And some of the weirdness again, you know,
a bigfoot is not a human, but again a giant
again could be classified as a hairy man, maybe a big, huge,
you know, hairy man. But again, some of these people,
(42:07):
you know, in the four to one one that David
has wrote about is when they have found the remains
of the bodies, a lot of the time the clothes
are taken off, neatly folded and by the body, So
that takes intelligence.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
It takes intelligence. And if I remember correctly too, it's
like the searchers have already covered a certain area and
then they go back through and they find them in
that the very area that they had already previously searched.
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, And it's like they're planeted there, you know, just
to you know, to show it. But again, like in
this cave Lovelock, how again, how are these American natives taken?
Did the giants come running through the village and just
(42:59):
grab the women and the babies or you know, do
they grab men too? Or was it women and babies
more their delicacy? I hate to use that word.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, I don't know the specifics on that, but I mean,
I know probably the paiute the parents would warn the children,
you know, not to stray too far away. So to me,
it would seem likely that they would try to first
go after the weaker, you know, the ones that they
can get too easily. But they were Sarah Winnemaka in
(43:29):
her accounts of these red hair giants, I mean, they
were fierce in battle. They would arrow shot at them,
they would they would try to catch the arrows they
were quick. They would try to catch the arrows and
shoot the arrows back at whoever was sending them their way.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
I'm going to take like one or two phone calls
if anybody wants to call in and ask Floyd a
question about these red hair giants again, you know the
phone line in fact, you know, just give us a
call and I'll put you on and you can add Floyd.
Question again with these giants, how can we prove that
(44:06):
they really existed? I mean, what can we do as
individuals if we want to prove that they they did
have they were live.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, and that's you know, aside from I mean, it's
difficult if we can't have access to the actual remains. However,
we can just share research on the oral traditions, any
eyewitness accounts, any kind of documented evidence in the form
of you know, newspaper articles. That's kind of what I
tried to do in my book was just put forth
(44:41):
the evidence that I came across and and not say
that yes, definitely, you know they exist. This is you know,
this is what this is just what I believe. And
I'm just sharing with you the evidence that I found
and the reader. I leave it up to the reader
to come to their own own conclusions. But I think
with okay, culturally throughout the world about John.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Okay, well, I think we're getting hit by the sun
spots because you're freezing up there. I think we have
a color. Who do we have?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
This is hi Barb. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I'm fine? You got a question for Floyd.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
Yeah, I've been wondering ever since you started talking about
the giants, is there any evidence in any of the
bones that they've found, or in any of the stories
from the plute that any of the giants were female?
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Good question. I haven't come across any any evidence that
they were female. There is some mention that some of
the skeletons that did come out of Lovelock Cave were
much smaller than the males. However, they were never put
on public display, but in the archaeological record it says
(46:08):
that the females were definitely smaller than the males.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Well, that was a good question, Barb. And who do
we have On the other line? Here we got Ladie
hi Art, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Okay, Okay, Yeah, this is a subject that I don't
have too much on, but I watched a few shows
on television where the people the witness said that they
would see something like a sasquatch or something hairy, and
then they would see when they try to chase it,
it would get a green flash and then they wouldn't
(46:40):
find it would disappear. Would My question would be do
they have or they would be there and then they
would fall asleep. They'd be like if they were mind controlled?
Is there any relations to that with the Red Giants?
And I'll betake up there.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
That's an excellent, excellent question. And I didn't come across
anything except it brings me back to I mentioned earlier.
I had interviewed my neighbor that encountered a bigfoot, and
he did meant that he found he felt like something
was going on with his mind when he was during
(47:15):
this second encounter he said. He told me, he said, Floyd,
it's like something was messing with my mind.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Very interesting. Now, Floyd, do you have a website or
a book or anything you want to share?
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yes? Absolutely, my website said www dot Redhaired Giants dot com.
And on that website, I have a chapter breakdown of
my book. It'll give you a lot more information on
what's in there? And also you can purchase my book
at BookBaby dot com. I'm a self published author and
so if people are interested in my book, I'd appreciate
(47:54):
it if you go there and purchase it because book
baby really supports self published authors, and you could also
get it on Amazon as well.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Okay, I think we got one more color before we
end the show. Who do we have?
Speaker 6 (48:06):
This is Tom?
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Hi? Tom? Are you staying out of trouble on a
Saturday night?
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (48:13):
I'm too sick to do anything else.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I thought you were getting better.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
I am getting better, but I'm not over it yet.
So probably another forty eight hours and I'll be getting
into trouble.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
You got a question for Floyd?
Speaker 7 (48:26):
Yeah, quickly.
Speaker 6 (48:27):
I've read several accounts, and I don't know how credible
they are.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Leus.
Speaker 6 (48:32):
I've seen a documentary on YouTube about the red haired
Candahar Giant that allegedly took out a squad of US infantrymen,
and it took another squad to go win, and they
had to expend most of their ammunition to finally take
this thing down, and they ended up taking the body
and putting it on and taking it to right pat
(48:53):
Air Force Base do you know anything about that.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
I have heard the story. I did watch it interview
of one of the alleged soldiers that was involved with that.
His face was kind of blacked out on the interview.
But at the time I I forwarded that that interview
to a friend of mine who is a counterintelligence agent
for the army, and I just wanted his opinion on it.
(49:18):
And what he told me was that that man that
they were interviewing regarding the Red Hair Giant incident, he
said that that man believed in what he was saying.
He seemed he seemed like there was some credibility. But
that's that's pretty much all that he said. So it's
kind of hard, you know, evidence wise, if it's just
you know, you're you're you're getting the story from from
(49:41):
different people, and you don't you don't really have too
much beyond that. But I definitely hold out the possibility
that really happened.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Okay, Oh, thank you Tom, thank you well, Hey, Floyd,
I want to thank you so much for coming on
the show here tonight. That hour just went by so fast.
You know, if you get a hold of my producer,
send them over the links and stuff of your book.
I will put it up on our website.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Thank you so much, Gary, it's been an absolute pleasure.
I had a blast, and thanks again to your audience
for tuning in. That hour flew by really quick.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Well it's a lot better than talking about Bigfoot, so
I mean, yeah, we covered a lot. My feeling is, honestly, Floyd.
I think somewhere deep in the woods, somewhere someplace, that
these giants still exist.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
I would agree with you, Gary, I really do. I
think there's a remnant of them left.
Speaker 7 (50:39):
I do.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
My friend, you take care, will you?
Speaker 2 (50:42):
You take good care? Gary, It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Okay, my friend, you take care.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Bubbe bye.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Well you know what, we're going to be ending the
show here shortly, but if you really look at it,
we're going to start doing this like every other Saturday.
If we get enough people will do it every Saturday.
That's up to you. But you know, again, we want
to make the show really intriguing. Have you noticed the
quality of our guests have really gone up and we're
(51:08):
covering more subjects. Again, it's very important for you out
there to you know again, subscribe to the channel. If
you haven't done it, give us a thumbs up and
please please our sponsors. That's what pays for the show.
They look at the comments, and if they don't see
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So it's important always to leave a comment if you
(51:30):
like the show, like the guests or whatever. And if again,
if you want to hear somebody else or see somebody
else on the show, put it in a comment and
we'll try to book them again. I want to say, wow,
we're lucky we did not lose any satellites this weekend.
It's not over yet, but we're getting hit with the
hottest solar flares in nineteen years going on through tomorrow.
(51:54):
And maybe that's why our guest tonight he throws up.
That wasn't on my end. He throws up, and I
was doing everything I could not to lose the audio
with him here tonight. Again, I want to say, well,
thank you Tom Art Barb and we had a bunch
of new people on chat tonight. I want to thank
all of you out there and you're all official Night Dreamers.
(52:17):
Well until next Thursday, everybody, have a good one, tell
your friends about the show, and you have a great weekend.
Who's friends?
Speaker 8 (52:29):
All the night Dreamers tucking an Gary on the radio,
but maybe he's not on the side linked song is
still buying you a pose.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (52:41):
Gary's Talkshow Radio. We's it Thursday Friday night. If you
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Speaker 4 (52:54):
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Speaker 9 (53:07):
Having found possible Sasquatch evidence, namely trees driven into the
ground upside down thought to be territory markers, led me
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