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Speaker 4 (02:44):
I was on TikTok quite a bit here this past week.
And I tell you, between the politician side of it
and the uap ufo, flying discs, flying sauce or whatever
side of it, it's getting so bizarre. Now you don't
again the comet the three I Atlas. If you listen
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to a lot of these people on podcasts and on
TikTok in Abby Low kind of left it kind of
blank there about what it was for a reason, I
really think. But here's what's going on, folks, is that
people are panicking. They're thinking that this is not a comet. Now,
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first thing, I want to tell you, it's shooting out
methane gas, but it's shooting out nickel also, which is
kind of weird. But again, it's not coming from our
solar system, our galaxy. We don't even know where it
originated from. But people are thinking, oh my god, it
is an alien craft and it's going to come and
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attack Earth. And then today on TikTok and again I
heard it on three or four podcasts. By tomorrow b
hundreds of podcasts claiming that this is a good one, James,
think about this. They're claiming that in Area fifty one
aliens escaped for the first time, and the reason why
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they escape there's really scared because there's bad aliens on
the three Eye Atlas. Hell, what do you think about
that one? My friend?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
That sounds like humans putting their concepts and thinking into
how aliens are in interdimensional beings would think it's ridiculous.
I don't think none of it's true personally, but that's
just my opinion. Yeah, I've seen all this stuff you've
been speaking of. It's all over the place about e
or the Atlas, and also there's video out now that
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released from the Roswell incident and all kind of Russian
UFOs and just everything all.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Well, the one I like is where the person can
sit in their living room and wish a UFO would
appear above their house and oh my god, there's one
right over there. Now. Like I was saying before we
went on the air, do you think, seriously if I
was an alien in my little spacecraft? You remember the
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Martian TV series back in the sixties. Yeah, yeah, okay,
where the guy crashed on Earth and became friends with
this reporter. But here's what I'm thinking of, my favorite Martian,
that's what the name of the show was. But think
about that, if I was a alien flying out in
space doing what I was supposed to be doing, right,
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do you know how many times I'd have to come
back to this fricking Earth Because people are sitting there saying, Oh,
I wish you would appear over my house.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Yeah, well, I guess it's all about intent and all this.
But I will say this much. One of the people
that called them in is going to be a guest
on a show in the middle of next month. So
that's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
A good one. Well, I will find out how he.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Does it first hame. We're gonna find out first time.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, how he does it. But do you think seriously,
if you think about that, think about it would take
litterally millions of UFOs going around our planet to be somemons.
That's all they do is say someone's when they come,
when people summon them, just to show that we're here.
That's all right.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yeah, well apparently they're all around us all the time,
like multiverse or whatever it could be. There's all kinds
of theories. We don't really know.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Well, I do know a lot of people either need
to take some drugs or maybe they ought to quit
taking some drugs.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Something new.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I don't know. It's become a circus. Can I tell
you that? A circus out there on TikTok and all
these podcasts. You know, what we try to do here
And what I do, folks, is I try to bring
on lushitimate guests, good topics, and then I leave it
up to you to make the decision. I'm not going
to sit there and make all this spuel about all
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this other stuff. We got enough problems going on right now.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
No.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
No, Well have you seen the price of a stake lately,
especially depending if you live in New York or on
the West Coast. I mean, the price of meat is
gone crazy, the egg price is gone up. And grocery bills.
You know, when you go to the grocery store and
buy food, plan on spending next your twenty thirty dollars
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every time you go shopping, because inflation it's got out
of hand. Well, you know what we need to do.
Let's find out some information about our guest. What do
you think, Well, what do you think?
Speaker 8 (07:33):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I said, yeah, let's do it. Okay, let's do it.
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Andrew Vishago is a lawyer, writer, public speaker, media personality,
and former presidential candidate, best known for serving as a
US chrononaut in Project VEGASUS during the advent of time travel.
Andrew Vishago also served in Project Mars during the Advent
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of interdimensional travel.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Well, Andy, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 8 (08:10):
Excellent?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Gary, Well good, and I'm glad you're feeling better and
all that. So what do you think is going on
about eufos right now? In general?
Speaker 8 (08:21):
I think we have to remember that they are not
extraterrestrials in spaceships, but interdimensionals in time ships or on
time ships. I think they were always in possession of
time trial. That's why we had to achieve it and
we have.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, you know, that makes a lot of sense because
the last time I had Mitio Kaku on the show,
he said, we're so close to cracking the next dimension,
and if that means portals would exist, parallel universes would exist.
So that makes maybe you think they're you know, like us,
just in another dimension in another time Zoneslutely.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
They seem to show evidence of this.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah, So what do you think about some treaties that
were made by certain presidents with ets.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Well, the greata Treaty of nineteen fifty four is really
the critical one. What President eisen Hour, the person who
allowed us to win the war against the the Acxis powers,
decided to do is trade the abduction of our human
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beings here for their technology, and that relates to the
discussion I had last time I was on with you
about the fact that my dad said that the aliens
wanted to meet the children of our project people. That hour,
I believe was the alien human liaison that was going
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on in Project Pegasus. Through the program, I meant to
Tall Grace, one of the types of viziants most frequently.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Now you mentioned these tall Grays, can you kind of
describe what they look like? And roughly? How you know?
You were young at that point, so I mean, anybody
probably over by seven was tall, But I mean how
tall do you think they were?
Speaker 8 (10:23):
They were about seven feet tall. They looked like Han
Chinese about evolved a million years or so. Douglas Dwayne
Dat Dietrich, the researcher, told me that they were from
a Riparian environment in northern China.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Interesting, Now again, what does their face look like?
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Pretty much like Asian people in the world today. But
they were very tall, and the female was rather skittish.
The male was a little bit more calm and contained.
But for years I thought of my dad saying the
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aliens wanted to meet the children of our project people,
and I realized he wasn't talking about the children of
Dark officials on Project Pegasus. He met the children of
the alien Maison project that was going on.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Interesting now again, I want to get back to you. Also,
what they looked like a little bit more so they
looked Asian, So they didn't have this big huge head
with alman eyes.
Speaker 8 (11:53):
No, they looked more earth like than that.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
That stands the reason their limbs where their arms longer
than humans or out of a portion or anything.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
I would say, No, they looked like you know, Han
Chinese about evolved by about a million years. Maybe that's
what they were.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
That's possible, that is very possible. I really think that
we humans were created by off world creatures.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Well, I think that that hybridization has been going on.
That I think was the significance of the greata Treaty.
I think every every present since Sizenhower has been ratifying it,
and that's been to give them our genes, to take
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those genes to other worlds and make hybridized humanoids.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Now when we did and we still are. What president
signed this first treaty.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
I believe it was President Eisenhower, who was the thirty
fourth president. I wouldn't even be surprised if the assassination
and President Kennedy was related to that. I would cite
a doctor Michael Sala's book, Kennedy's Last Stand. And I've
always wondered about President Eisenhower's statement that the American people
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would not be Now what did he say stampeded? That
has never made any sense. That's always been ignored in
the assassination literature. But what did President Eisenhower mean by
saying that the killing of JFK was not going to
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cause the American people to be stampeded? To stampede it
from what to what? It's a very strange comment.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
It is. Now, do you think that Eisenhower was forced
into this signing this treaty?
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Yes, I think he could have even won the Cold
War as a result of getting their technology in exchange
for our genes, because certainly they got that and we
got their technology. So I think, in fact, my dad
was talking about alien human liaison.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
That is really you know, when you think about that
is kind of scary. I mean, I just wondered. You know, again,
it depends on what you read and where you read it.
I just wondered, did the aliens when they bosely met
with Eisenhower. I wonder if there were threats if he
didn't sign this treaty, bad things would happen to our planet.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Could have been that as well. I mean, they're clearly many,
many thousands of years in advance of our technology. But
so he did get their technology, and I think that
gave us a tremendous advantage over other major powers. So
this is an important juncture in history.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It is. But you know, giving us a certain technology,
you know, I dislike me if I was giving my
whatever enemy or whatever, I would never give him the
most up to date technology because that could come back
to haunt you. And I'm just wondering in that case,
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the technology they gave us and the types of technology
they made sure they didn't give us enough.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
Well, we didn't have any standard to measure what they
were giving us. And our presidential leadership of that era
was allowing our citizens to be abducted.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
In what way? Were they being abducted? Andy?
Speaker 8 (16:21):
They became party to the alien abduction phenomenon, and their
genes were being harvested. My vision problems may result from this.
I was camping on the shores of lock Vapede or
Rapid Lake in English, and one of my sisters pointed
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out this what she thought was some kind of not
spacecraft but helicopter or something. And it got closer and
closer across lock Rapede, which is in the Verondering National
Park in Quebec, Canada, and it was an alien craft.
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And it landed in the campsite next to us, and
we all started running towards it. But I was the
youngest of a family of seven. My father was the
oldest of that brood, and then he was frozen, and
then my mother, and then my siblings, all four them
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in order of birth, with the oldest being the third
to be frozen by the ets, and then one of
my brothers the next oldest, and so forth, all the
way down to me. And I looked around and they
were all frozen, and I walked towards the craft and
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it opened up, and it was very much like that
Unsolved Mysteries where there were two alien craft face seeing
two other alien craft, and then they decided to begin
experimenting on my eyes, and they actually placed hypodermic needles
in my eyes.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Wait a minute, now, Andy, they took you into the craft,
did they put you on did they tie you down.
I put you down on a table.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Yes, and she said, calm down, We're not going to
hurt you. But that was the summer after my fifth
grade year, and then by high school I was beginning
to get visually impaired, very visual impairment that I'm bedeviled
with now. So the alien abduction experience is not neutral.
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There's been damage to the people taken, and I believe
I might have been one of them.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Did they do anything else than putting needles in your eyes?
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Well, that's the main scientific activity that went on. But
how did they know the age of my whole family?
They got it right for every last person. How did
they know that they land on some strange planet in
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the middle of nowhere and they knew that my dad
was the oldest, born in nineteen twenty three, my mom
was born in nineteen twenty five, and then all the
way down the list through my older siblings and then I.
They got it right. They got seven people's respective age correct.
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That shows how intelligent they are. How did they know
who was what age?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
That's interesting now, is that possible when they put those
needles in your eyes they were downloading your thoughts because
you know they always say your eyes there the windows
to the world.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
I don't know what they were looking for, but I
don't think it was very healthy for my vision. I
think it damaged my vision.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Did you have nightmares afterwards?
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Actually?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
No, No.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
I had a lot of alien contact in our house,
both in New Jersey and then in California. And I
think I wasn't afraid of the experience because there was
so much of it when I was a youngster.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
How old are you when that started?
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Oh? I was in the crib when that started.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
How about in California?
Speaker 8 (20:57):
How old are you then? I? I had just done
a year of college. And how they done a year
at U see San Diego?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
How are they coming to you?
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Then one just came in the bedroom and he was
sort of like a doctor, and he looked like he
looked at a keloid scar in my chest, and then
went back into the hall and brought two younger, smaller
they looked like med students, and said something an alien
about my my scarring on my chest. Probably said look,
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the time travel with this one is causing blah blah blah,
causing that keloid scaring.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Now a question I have too, Andy, You know you
did the time traveling with Pegasus. Now do you think
that could have labeled you some way? With aliens out
there to monitor you.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
I think they were checking me out because I was
traveling frequently in the noetic environment that they travel in,
so I would say yes, wow.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
And how long did it did you have visitors?
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Oh? Boy, I think a bill about age eighteen.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Do you remember your last time when they came and visited?
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Yeah, it was that. In fact, I had the night
blindness and with the night paralysis, and that was the
last time I was contacts.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
That is really interesting and kind of really scary. On
the other side of this, now, going back to this treaty,
I mean, you know it was this treaty also were
they could aliens abduct people and you know, and experiment
with them and not return them.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
No, I don't think that was that. Basically, the agreement
was that they would be able to abduct our citizens
and harvest their DNA and in exchange, we would get
their technology. But how do we know what we got.
What standard of comparison was there? There wasn't one. But
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that was in fact something that was signed again and
again by every present since then.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
That's really that other.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
President Trump has signed it, and whether not signing it
caused the phenomenon in New New Jersey this year. Is
the drones that were seen over New Jersey is an
interesting question.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Well, you know it's circulating all over the internet right now.
Where we took one out, We had a drone with
a missile on it, and we supposedly took out a
huge orb which then you know was destroyed, but then
out of that came a whole bunch of orbs.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Yes, but I wonder if refusing to sign the Greata
Treaty was in fact the reason why the drones were
being brandished the way they were.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Well, was it like show of force?
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Yeah, it's kind of a show of force or an
attempt to intimidate President Trump. I could see him refusing
to sign that treaty, maybe even rescind it.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
That is, you know, when you really think about what
is going on, I mean, ah, we're not even like
you know, with the Congress. You know, I watched the
last circus of the Congress. I called a circus because
we're still not getting information. Now. A lot of upologists
come out there and you know, they whatever they think
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in their mind, Oh yeah, we got all this information.
But here's the problem. It's all Heresay, no one has
come out and said, look, here is the proof right here,
and come out to the public. I would think a whistleblower,
if he came, you know, is supposedly whistle blowing. You know,
then if they're fearful of their life, then you know,
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why are they whistleblowing. They should be going out to
the public and saying, here's the proof.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Well, we even know that the aliens were showing interest
in our aerospace families and investigating them. In fact, they
aware of the medals that electrical engineers and so forth
who work on the space race, what substances they were using,
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like mo lived in them. So that was allowing them
to abduct the children of our aerospace community, our astronauts,
our engineers, our aerospace engineers and so forth.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I don't think we're Do you think we're ever going
to be told the truth about this? I mean, come on,
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
If there's presidential leadership, we will. That's why I promised
to offer when I ran in twenty sixteen, but mister
Trump was running and had a lot more money to win.
I don't know. I think because of the greata treaty,
they feel compelled to continue, you to get advanced technology
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from the extraterrestials and continue to give them genes.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
That that is the alarming when you think about what
is going on, because I heard horror stories about you know,
supposedly in this one treaty that Eisenhoer's signed, that they
could abduct a certain amount of people. And then you know, again,
you know, how do we know that these ets care
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about us, about our human race. Maybe they're creating something
that's going to be bad at some point. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Well, as I said, they're not. We're not being visited
by extratreustials in spaceships, but inter dimensionals and time ships.
So they were always fairly passive, but I had contact
with them. They're not all in Area fifty one. The
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four that I saw were Edward's Air Force base, and
the injury to one of them mirrored their craft. That
was a very strange element. He was laying on the ground,
lying on the ground, and the ship had the same
pattern of physical injury as one of the extraterrestrials.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Okay, we need to go on break. When we come back,
let's talk about that because that tells me that maybe
the matter of these craft are biological. So we'll be
back with Andy or Andrew right after this. So we'll
be back in about three minutes. You're listening to night
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back with Andrew and you know I again, you know,
I remember the old TV series Firefly, you know, where
the craft was actually biological. Now I always wonder, I
think maybe these crap are biological?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
What do you feel?
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Well? That one was he was. He was injured in
precisely the same way that the craft was damaged. And
I reported that to CIA. My assignment was to go
there and just look into their room and use my
idetic psychlic ability to discern how they felt. And I
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reported back to CIA that the lead et was just
incredibly homesick and he was using every ability he had
to communicate that homesickness to me. And I advise them
to let them go and let them go go back
to their home planet. But they were damaged in tandem
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with their craft, So that thinks the question, how did
that happen? How did they do that? But they did.
There was one of them laying on his side in
the middle of the room, who had damage to his
limbs and so forth. That was directly proportional and in
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the same areas as their craft.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
That makes me wonder could these ets actually then be
part of the craft or the craph part of the et.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
I don't know it was one of the other, but
it was definitely a significant finding.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Now, what did these ets look like?
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Sort of medium sized grays? You know, we say the grays,
but there are there are thousands of grays. Well one
of the ones that are residents the most are the
tall grays, the small grays, the the uh the Nordics,
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and the Amphibians, and but there are about forty different
types that are visiting us.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Now, how about all these people? You know, I still
don't how can I say this without getting people mad
at me? But you know when you mentioned grays that
people think of the big head with a big, huge
almond eyes and a small slit for the mouth. And
you know when I did research years ago on it
that started from a guy's drawing back years ago. Do
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you feel do you do any of them look like that?
Speaker 8 (37:37):
I don't know. I mean I've seen different types, so
we can't say that they're all similar. I mean, I've
seen an orange, I've seen different types of small grays.
I've seen the small grays compared to the tall ones.
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I don't think they're all similar. They are all from
different star sisms star systems after all.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, and the makeup of their planet it could be
totally opposite of like what ourth is, so, I mean
that could have a lot to do with it. The
gravity could have a lot to do with it, and
all that. The way they look and their DNA and
all that.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
But right, the tall Grays told me we were trained
during that kind of summit meeting we had near the
Monzana Weapons storage area near Albuquerque, to say, on our planet,
we have areas of outstanding natural beauty like Yusemite and
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the Grand Canyon and Niagara Falls. What areas of outstanding
natural beauty do you have on your planet? And they
said an area of beautiful sand dunes when you're coming
in to land on their planet. I remember that.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Well, don't forget if their planet is like that to them,
it could be just as beautiful as Mount Everest or
Mount Rainier in our country or our planet.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
Absolutely, they definitely had a different kind of humanoid attachment
to their home planet.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Did you ever get the feeling what they think about
humans in general?
Speaker 8 (39:35):
No, I think they were. I think they were studying us,
and I think that doctor John Ma's theory that they
were trying to make humans on Earth a little bit
more earth in and environmental was certainly manifest in my life.
You know. I became a writer for the Coast Do Society.
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I earned three advanced degrees in environmental affairs. So I
think that they were trying to make us do our
best to save the Earth. They recognize the value of
the of Earth's environment.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Has any of the ets actually come out and said, look,
your days are numbered on your planet Earth because what
you're doing to it. I mean, you know, we've had
Captain Paul Watson, you know, from Whale Wars and what
he does to save the whales. I mean, he's been
on the show quite a few times through the years,
and he said, our oceans are dying and that creates
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most of our auction. People don't believe it. They think, oh,
they're the rainforests and all that. Where we get our auction.
Auction comes to the plankton of the oceans. If the
oceans die, we will die, and we're killing our oceans,
Our streams, are lakes are with pollution and everything. At
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this rate. We don't need a nuclear war in twenty years.
In twenty years from now, this planet is going to
be horribly hard to live in and live on.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Well, Gary, when I visited twenty forty five from nineteen
seventy two, there was evidence that oxygen was becoming beginning
to become depleted because the buildings were just crammed with houseplants.
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That was a very market. So we should worry about
what's going on relative to oxygen supply on Earth. I mean,
twenty forty five is only what twenty years away.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yeah, that's what's scary. Sometimes I wonder if the ets
are just like making a documentary about the Earth and
gathering as much information while we're still here in like
the next twenty thirty years from now, you know, the
planet could be totally inhabitable, and then they have a
record of it, like you know, like a record keeper.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
Well, I think that they are urging us to take
a more earthy or environmental perspective on our own planet.
They recognize the beauty and the value of Earth and
wish to save it as much as study us.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Well, you are transported to Mars in Pegasus and all
this stuff. Can I ask you a question, do we
have the capability or you think by now we have
the capability If something comes down to it, they could
start transporting a certain amount of humans to a livable planet.
Speaker 8 (42:57):
Well, I think that was always a possible outcome of
Project Mars. But I don't believe Aliens have told us that.
I think they expect us to save our home planet ourselves.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Well, I don't see it at the point it's going.
That's the scary part. Now, when you were on Mars too,
is there you know we're told there is not enough
auction on Mars to survive, to even breathe. Is that true?
Speaker 8 (43:31):
No, there's enough to breathe, And we all had We
all had oxygenation devices that we then discarded. In fact,
there were people smoking on the surface. Now I'm not
a smoker, so I didn't do that. But that was
not a singular activity. It was going on by a
number of the Mars astronauts. But there were moments of
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hypoxia and of tunnel vision. But you can breathe on
the Martian surface. And there's kind of like a the
color of kind of a baby blue boy's blanket to
the sky.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
So I think we've been lied then too about Mars,
haven't we.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
It seems like it it's more livable than has been publicized.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Well, you know some of the pictures and then naturally,
you know, NASA pulls them down or says, oh, that's
this rocks or this or that. I mean, you know,
here about a year ago they found like a side
of a hill on Mars, a entrance that it was
perfectly like like a doorway going into you know, into
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the side of this mountain or to whatever it was,
and that when you look at it and zoom into it,
it looks like it was actually a way to go
into it. And then they found here just read some
bones that they were overtook a picture of it, and
then you know that got out on the internet. Then
(45:06):
NASA pulled it off and then came back, oh it
is this rocks. I mean, I think again we're being
lied to you about that planet.
Speaker 8 (45:14):
Well that's the rock is perspective. That's always been the
ignorant position on Mars. I'm still waiting for my Space
Medal of Honor when I when I saved the life
of Bernard Mendez, one of my fellow astronauts, I was
told by CIA that I would be awarded the Space
Medal of Honor. So I'm going to be planning to
(45:40):
send a message to President Trump, Hey, when I'm going
to be getting my Space Medal of Honor for saving
a fellow astronauts life on the surface of Mars.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
I think what Trump needs to do not just to
come out and say that, hey, we're being visited. I
think he needs to come out and talk about some
of these programs that we've been to Mars. We had
young people on Mars, we did this on this planet,
we had things undone on the Moon. I think the
public needs to hear it.
Speaker 8 (46:15):
I totally agree, And that.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Would be the major, the biggest disclosure of anything, wouldn't it.
Speaker 8 (46:23):
Well, we need presidential leadership about what we've really done.
I promised that when I ran in twenty sixteen. But
the intervening presidents who did win the election could have
done that, but they haven't.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
No, but Bill Clary and Hillary both said I watched
him on Saturday Night Live or whatever, so it was
they said quote unquote that when they became when Clinton
became president, or he became president, he would tell the
population about UFOs and give him the real truth. And
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you know, it never happened. And all these presidents that
come out when they ran for presidents, see they said, well,
I'm going to tell the population, but it never happens.
Speaker 8 (47:14):
Well, there's been a few presidents, because there was George
Green or Gabriel Green, myself and a few others. And
what they're really doing is they're kind of dropping these
public limited hangouts and then moving on so they can
later say, well, we talked about that. I mean, there
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was a statement made this last year that the United
States now had the ability to manipulate time and space,
and they just hit that and then moved on.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Yeah, it was like a little teaser in the news
about that. I remember that, right.
Speaker 8 (47:58):
That's how they're handling it. But they have to stop
worrying about how people are going to respond because people
have seen so many science fiction films and so forth
TV shows that they're ready for the truth.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
You know, you got as a young kid and the
program you're in, you went back in time, you saw
Washington and actually was able to meet you. You know,
went back in Lincoln and all that. You know, when
he was going to be assassinated. But you think that
after all these years, time travel has advanced a lot more.
Speaker 8 (48:43):
It probably has. I don't know what they've done, but
I mean, I'm obviously persona non granted from the perspective
of the program. But the program must still exist in
some form. I fell apart in the early set seventies,
like nineteen seventy four, and then was rebuilt.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
Why did it fall apart.
Speaker 8 (49:08):
Because one of the program engineers had a heart attack
on the way into work, so his reporting requirements fell apart,
and they all kind of hid. They all kind of
took off for the woodwork and avoided even acknowledging that
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they were in the program.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Now, if I could go back in time, Andy, could
I alter event? Could I go back and help prevent
Jesus from being killed?
Speaker 8 (49:49):
No, you cannot change the past. You can only fulfill it.
But why can't you can do it?
Speaker 4 (49:57):
Why can't you change it?
Speaker 8 (50:03):
That's a little bit hard to explain, but it's basically
the Grandfather paradox is. Also, let's say the kill Hitler paradox.
How would you know? How would you know to kill
Hitler to prevent his awful rise to power. If you
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killed him before he rose to power.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
Well, I mean it looking dirty. If I could go
back in time and kill Hitler, I'd go back during
World War One when he was a sergeant, and I
would assassinate him at that point before he.
Speaker 8 (50:43):
Then he wouldn't become the fearsome individual who would deserve
being killed or be sought to be killed.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
But if I knew he was going to be that
person and I assassinated him, then then you know, maybe
it wouldn't have turned out the way it did and
all these innocent people you know, were slaughtered.
Speaker 8 (51:04):
But you see, there's the paradox. You'd have to allow
him to become that to then seek to kill him
before he came that. So manipulating in the past by
changing it is very difficult. It's a little bit easier
with future events. You know, for future presidential candidate tells
(51:28):
us that he or she is, then we have a
motive to join their campaign and work for their election,
and then proto causation works on their behalf. But retro
causation is more difficult because the very Hitler you would
seek to kill would need to be allowed to come
(51:52):
to power in World War two and not World War One,
and not as an obscurity needs portrait painter, in order
to become the monster that he became to then have
the motive to kill him.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
That is interesting. You know also too, and you know
this recently they said, you know again that I read
in the Science Journal about six months ago. They said,
now they get they're almost positive you can go forward
and backward in time. Now, you know scientists up to here.
Recently he said, you can know you can't go forward
in time, you can only go backward in time.
Speaker 8 (52:33):
Well, I've done both, so that's not really an informed opinion.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
Okay, how did it feel when you went back in time,
Let's say, when you went back to the Lincoln uh
before he was assassinated. What did What did it feel
like as a young child.
Speaker 8 (52:56):
It felt like like normal human experience. It was certainly thrilling,
because I would know the times I was in the
real treat actually was meeting General George Washington and apprising
him to retreat his troops from New York Harbor, which
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I did by going from Oh boy, I guess I
was in the third grade and I went back in
August of seventeen seventy six. It was very thrilling to
me Washington. I didn't meet Lincoln. I just saw him
(53:41):
sitting on his balcony seating, and I saw him in
Missus Washington, a Missus Lincoln coming into Ford's theater.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
Now, when they sent you back, did they send you
back in that era clothing? Or are you in.
Speaker 8 (53:59):
If they had to? I was dressed as a Union
bugle boy when they sent me back to Gettysburden and
the Josephine Cobb image was produced.
Speaker 4 (54:13):
They got a photograph of you, don't they?
Speaker 8 (54:16):
Yes, and that's me.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
Yeah, I've seen that and it doesn't definitely looks like you.
But how about when you went back to Washington. How
are you dressed then?
Speaker 8 (54:28):
I wasn't dressed with specialized clothing.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
How did they react when you met him? I mean,
how it his aides and everybody else? Did they think
you were a spy?
Speaker 8 (54:42):
He couldn't. He couldn't fathom what we meant by time
travelers from your own future, even after we gave him
the year nineteen seventy and he said, Andrew, that that
is your name, right? He said, very much like King
Charles was fighting for the rights of an englishman. After all,
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he said, if I go from say New York City
of Philadelphia, I can walk or perhaps take a horse
or ride in a carriage. But what do you mean
by time travelers for my own future? How would I
be traveling in time? And he just didn't get it.
(55:24):
So I gave him this hologram to show Ben Franklin,
and he agreed that Franklin would be interested because it
was such an interesting artifact from the future, kind of
like the two dimensional holograms that were then being featured
on the cover of magazines National Geographic and so forth.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
Did you tell him? Did you tell me that he
was going to become the first president of the United States?
Speaker 8 (55:55):
Yes, I explained all that.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
How did he take that?
Speaker 8 (56:00):
Look at it with a plumb He was sort of
mystified as to who we really were, and he asked
me a number of times whether we were angels, and
I said, no, no, sir, I'm a time traveler from
your own future. And he said, Andrew, I don't I
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really think that my mind wrapped around this phrase you using.
And he finally then just understood who we were, and
he stood up ramrock straight and said I shall order
the retreat immediately. It was quite impressive. The four words
(56:44):
that I've used to describe him was, let's see, it
was courageous, idealistic, and I'm trying to think of the
name of that, that desky head. But he was very decisive,
(57:13):
that very he was very a very sort of courageous,
decisive leader. He was quite an amazing person to meet.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
That is so interesting. Hey, Andrew, our time is up.
Now you're going to come on every two weeks and
give us updates on time travel, some of your stories
that what you were involved with and what's going on.
Am I right?
Speaker 8 (57:48):
That's correct?
Speaker 4 (57:49):
Well, you know, I think that audience is going to
look forward to that.
Speaker 8 (57:53):
Yeah. And by the way, the Project Pegasus and the
time travel program resulted from the July fifty two overflight
of our nation's capital with Extra trustrial craft because we
knew that they had Tesla teleportation or something like it. Yeah,
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so the twish issues were related.
Speaker 4 (58:25):
I think that connects it to the dots there. Well, Hey,
I want you to have a great weekend, will you
as coming up?
Speaker 8 (58:32):
I will?
Speaker 4 (58:33):
Gary, Okay, I want to thank you so much for
coming on tonight.
Speaker 8 (58:38):
All right, Well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (58:39):
Okay, my friend, you take care, Okay, take care Gary
Well JC tomorrow what we're on live on where.
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We don't want to miss the show.
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Now.
Speaker 4 (59:02):
He was a flight surgeon for NASA, and you know
he also flew a lot of craft, helicopters and even
well maneuvered a attack submarine nuclear powered.
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Yeah.
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I was on TikTok quite a bit here this past week.
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That sounds like humans putting their concepts and thinking into
how aliens are in interdimensional beings would think it's ridiculous.
I don't think none of it's true personally, but that's
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been speaking of. It's all over the place about e
or the Atlas, and also there's video out now that
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released from the Roswell incident and all kind of Russian
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Well, the one I like is where the person can
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Martian TV series back in the sixties. Yeah, yeah, okay,
where the guy crashed on Earth and became friends with
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that's what the name of the show was. But think
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space doing what I was supposed to be doing, right,
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do you know how many times I'd have to come
back to this fricking Earth Because people are sitting there saying, Oh,
I wish you would appear over my house.
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Yeah, well, I guess it's all about intent and all this.
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A good one. Well, I will find out how he.
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Does it first hame. We're gonna find out first time.
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Yeah, how he does it. But do you think seriously,
if you think about that, think about it would take
litterally millions of UFOs going around our planet to be somemons.
That's all they do is say someone's when they come,
when people summon them, just to show that we're here.
That's all right.
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Yeah, well apparently they're all around us all the time,
like multiverse or whatever it could be. There's all kinds
of theories. We don't really know.
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Well, I do know a lot of people either need
to take some drugs or maybe they ought to quit
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Something new.
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I don't know. It's become a circus. Can I tell
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these podcasts. You know, what we try to do here
And what I do, folks, is I try to bring
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this other stuff. We got enough problems going on right now.
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No, Well have you seen the price of a stake lately,
especially depending if you live in New York or on
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You know, when you go to the grocery store and
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every time you go shopping, because inflation it's got out
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Let's find out some information about our guest. What do
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Oh?
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I said, yeah, let's do it. Okay, let's do it.
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Andrew Vishago is a lawyer, writer, public speaker, media personality,
and former presidential candidate, best known for serving as a
US chrononaut in Project VEGASUS during the advent of time travel.
Andrew Vishago also served in Project Mars during the Advent
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of interdimensional travel.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Well, Andy, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 8 (08:10):
Excellent?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Gary, Well good, and I'm glad you're feeling better and
all that. So what do you think is going on
about eufos right now? In general?
Speaker 8 (08:21):
I think we have to remember that they are not
extraterrestrials in spaceships, but interdimensionals in time ships or on
time ships. I think they were always in possession of
time trial. That's why we had to achieve it and
we have.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, you know, that makes a lot of sense because
the last time I had Mitio Kaku on the show,
he said, we're so close to cracking the next dimension,
and if that means portals would exist, parallel universes would exist.
So that makes maybe you think they're you know, like us,
just in another dimension in another time Zoneslutely.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
They seem to show evidence of this.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah, So what do you think about some treaties that
were made by certain presidents with ets.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Well, the greata Treaty of nineteen fifty four is really
the critical one. What President eisen Hour, the person who
allowed us to win the war against the the Acxis powers,
decided to do is trade the abduction of our human
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beings here for their technology, and that relates to the
discussion I had last time I was on with you
about the fact that my dad said that the aliens
wanted to meet the children of our project people. That hour,
I believe was the alien human liaison that was going
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on in Project Pegasus. Through the program, I meant to
Tall Grace, one of the types of viziants most frequently.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Now you mentioned these tall Grays, can you kind of
describe what they look like? And roughly? How you know?
You were young at that point, so I mean, anybody
probably over by seven was tall, But I mean how
tall do you think they were?
Speaker 8 (10:23):
They were about seven feet tall. They looked like Han
Chinese about evolved a million years or so. Douglas Dwayne
Dat Dietrich, the researcher, told me that they were from
a Riparian environment in northern China.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Interesting, Now again, what does their face look like?
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Pretty much like Asian people in the world today. But
they were very tall, and the female was rather skittish.
The male was a little bit more calm and contained.
But for years I thought of my dad saying the
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aliens wanted to meet the children of our project people,
and I realized he wasn't talking about the children of
Dark officials on Project Pegasus. He met the children of
the alien Maison project that was going on.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Interesting now again, I want to get back to you. Also,
what they looked like a little bit more so they
looked Asian, So they didn't have this big huge head
with alman eyes.
Speaker 8 (11:53):
No, they looked more earth like than that.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
That stands the reason their limbs where their arms longer
than humans or out of a portion or anything.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
I would say, No, they looked like you know, Han
Chinese about evolved by about a million years. Maybe that's
what they were.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
That's possible, that is very possible. I really think that
we humans were created by off world creatures.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Well, I think that that hybridization has been going on.
That I think was the significance of the greata Treaty.
I think every every present since Sizenhower has been ratifying it,
and that's been to give them our genes, to take
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those genes to other worlds and make hybridized humanoids.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Now when we did and we still are. What president
signed this first treaty.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
I believe it was President Eisenhower, who was the thirty
fourth president. I wouldn't even be surprised if the assassination
and President Kennedy was related to that. I would cite
a doctor Michael Sala's book, Kennedy's Last Stand. And I've
always wondered about President Eisenhower's statement that the American people
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would not be Now what did he say stampeded? That
has never made any sense. That's always been ignored in
the assassination literature. But what did President Eisenhower mean by
saying that the killing of JFK was not going to
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cause the American people to be stampeded? To stampede it
from what to what? It's a very strange comment.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
It is. Now, do you think that Eisenhower was forced
into this signing this treaty?
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Yes, I think he could have even won the Cold
War as a result of getting their technology in exchange
for our genes, because certainly they got that and we
got their technology. So I think, in fact, my dad
was talking about alien human liaison.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
That is really you know, when you think about that
is kind of scary. I mean, I just wondered. You know, again,
it depends on what you read and where you read it.
I just wondered, did the aliens when they bosely met
with Eisenhower. I wonder if there were threats if he
didn't sign this treaty, bad things would happen to our planet.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Could have been that as well. I mean, they're clearly many,
many thousands of years in advance of our technology. But
so he did get their technology, and I think that
gave us a tremendous advantage over other major powers. So
this is an important juncture in history.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It is. But you know, giving us a certain technology,
you know, I dislike me if I was giving my
whatever enemy or whatever, I would never give him the
most up to date technology because that could come back
to haunt you. And I'm just wondering in that case,
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the technology they gave us and the types of technology
they made sure they didn't give us enough.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
Well, we didn't have any standard to measure what they
were giving us. And our presidential leadership of that era
was allowing our citizens to be abducted.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
In what way? Were they being abducted? Andy?
Speaker 8 (16:21):
They became party to the alien abduction phenomenon, and their
genes were being harvested. My vision problems may result from this.
I was camping on the shores of lock Vapede or
Rapid Lake in English, and one of my sisters pointed
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out this what she thought was some kind of not
spacecraft but helicopter or something. And it got closer and
closer across lock Rapede, which is in the Verondering National
Park in Quebec, Canada, and it was an alien craft.
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And it landed in the campsite next to us, and
we all started running towards it. But I was the
youngest of a family of seven. My father was the
oldest of that brood, and then he was frozen, and
then my mother, and then my siblings, all four them
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in order of birth, with the oldest being the third
to be frozen by the ets, and then one of
my brothers the next oldest, and so forth, all the
way down to me. And I looked around and they
were all frozen, and I walked towards the craft and
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it opened up, and it was very much like that
Unsolved Mysteries where there were two alien craft face seeing
two other alien craft, and then they decided to begin
experimenting on my eyes, and they actually placed hypodermic needles
in my eyes.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Wait a minute, now, Andy, they took you into the craft,
did they put you on did they tie you down.
I put you down on a table.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Yes, and she said, calm down, We're not going to
hurt you. But that was the summer after my fifth
grade year, and then by high school I was beginning
to get visually impaired, very visual impairment that I'm bedeviled
with now. So the alien abduction experience is not neutral.
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There's been damage to the people taken, and I believe
I might have been one of them.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Did they do anything else than putting needles in your eyes?
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Well, that's the main scientific activity that went on. But
how did they know the age of my whole family?
They got it right for every last person. How did
they know that they land on some strange planet in
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the middle of nowhere and they knew that my dad
was the oldest, born in nineteen twenty three, my mom
was born in nineteen twenty five, and then all the
way down the list through my older siblings and then I.
They got it right. They got seven people's respective age correct.
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That shows how intelligent they are. How did they know
who was what age?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
That's interesting now, is that possible when they put those
needles in your eyes they were downloading your thoughts because
you know they always say your eyes there the windows
to the world.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
I don't know what they were looking for, but I
don't think it was very healthy for my vision. I
think it damaged my vision.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Did you have nightmares afterwards?
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Actually?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
No, No.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
I had a lot of alien contact in our house,
both in New Jersey and then in California. And I
think I wasn't afraid of the experience because there was
so much of it when I was a youngster.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
How old are you when that started?
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Oh? I was in the crib when that started.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
How about in California?
Speaker 8 (20:57):
How old are you then? I? I had just done
a year of college. And how they done a year
at U see San Diego?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
How are they coming to you?
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Then one just came in the bedroom and he was
sort of like a doctor, and he looked like he
looked at a keloid scar in my chest, and then
went back into the hall and brought two younger, smaller
they looked like med students, and said something an alien
about my my scarring on my chest. Probably said look,
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the time travel with this one is causing blah blah blah,
causing that keloid scaring.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Now a question I have too, Andy, You know you
did the time traveling with Pegasus. Now do you think
that could have labeled you some way? With aliens out
there to monitor you.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
I think they were checking me out because I was
traveling frequently in the noetic environment that they travel in,
so I would say yes, wow.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
And how long did it did you have visitors?
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Oh? Boy, I think a bill about age eighteen.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Do you remember your last time when they came and visited?
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Yeah, it was that. In fact, I had the night
blindness and with the night paralysis, and that was the
last time I was contacts.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
That is really interesting and kind of really scary. On
the other side of this, now, going back to this treaty,
I mean, you know it was this treaty also were
they could aliens abduct people and you know, and experiment
with them and not return them.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
No, I don't think that was that. Basically, the agreement
was that they would be able to abduct our citizens
and harvest their DNA and in exchange, we would get
their technology. But how do we know what we got.
What standard of comparison was there? There wasn't one. But
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that was in fact something that was signed again and
again by every present since then.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
That's really that other.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
President Trump has signed it, and whether not signing it
caused the phenomenon in New New Jersey this year. Is
the drones that were seen over New Jersey is an
interesting question.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Well, you know it's circulating all over the internet right now.
Where we took one out, We had a drone with
a missile on it, and we supposedly took out a
huge orb which then you know was destroyed, but then
out of that came a whole bunch of orbs.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Yes, but I wonder if refusing to sign the Greata
Treaty was in fact the reason why the drones were
being brandished the way they were.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Well, was it like show of force?
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Yeah, it's kind of a show of force or an
attempt to intimidate President Trump. I could see him refusing
to sign that treaty, maybe even rescind it.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
That is, you know, when you really think about what
is going on, I mean, ah, we're not even like
you know, with the Congress. You know, I watched the
last circus of the Congress. I called a circus because
we're still not getting information. Now. A lot of upologists
come out there and you know, they whatever they think
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in their mind, Oh yeah, we got all this information.
But here's the problem. It's all Heresay, no one has
come out and said, look, here is the proof right here,
and come out to the public. I would think a whistleblower,
if he came, you know, is supposedly whistle blowing. You know,
then if they're fearful of their life, then you know,
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why are they whistleblowing. They should be going out to
the public and saying, here's the proof.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Well, we even know that the aliens were showing interest
in our aerospace families and investigating them. In fact, they
aware of the medals that electrical engineers and so forth
who work on the space race, what substances they were using,
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like mo lived in them. So that was allowing them
to abduct the children of our aerospace community, our astronauts,
our engineers, our aerospace engineers and so forth.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I don't think we're Do you think we're ever going
to be told the truth about this? I mean, come on,
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
If there's presidential leadership, we will. That's why I promised
to offer when I ran in twenty sixteen, but mister
Trump was running and had a lot more money to win.
I don't know. I think because of the greata treaty,
they feel compelled to continue, you to get advanced technology
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from the extraterrestials and continue to give them genes.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
That that is the alarming when you think about what
is going on, because I heard horror stories about you know,
supposedly in this one treaty that Eisenhoer's signed, that they
could abduct a certain amount of people. And then you know, again,
you know, how do we know that these ets care
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about us, about our human race. Maybe they're creating something
that's going to be bad at some point. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Well, as I said, they're not. We're not being visited
by extratreustials in spaceships, but inter dimensionals and time ships.
So they were always fairly passive, but I had contact
with them. They're not all in Area fifty one. The
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four that I saw were Edward's Air Force base, and
the injury to one of them mirrored their craft. That
was a very strange element. He was laying on the ground,
lying on the ground, and the ship had the same
pattern of physical injury as one of the extraterrestrials.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Okay, we need to go on break. When we come back,
let's talk about that because that tells me that maybe
the matter of these craft are biological. So we'll be
back with Andy or Andrew right after this. So we'll
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back with Andrew and you know I again, you know,
I remember the old TV series Firefly, you know, where
the craft was actually biological. Now I always wonder, I
think maybe these crap are biological?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
What do you feel?
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Well? That one was he was. He was injured in
precisely the same way that the craft was damaged. And
I reported that to CIA. My assignment was to go
there and just look into their room and use my
idetic psychlic ability to discern how they felt. And I
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reported back to CIA that the lead et was just
incredibly homesick and he was using every ability he had
to communicate that homesickness to me. And I advise them
to let them go and let them go go back
to their home planet. But they were damaged in tandem
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with their craft, So that thinks the question, how did
that happen? How did they do that? But they did.
There was one of them laying on his side in
the middle of the room, who had damage to his
limbs and so forth. That was directly proportional and in
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the same areas as their craft.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
That makes me wonder could these ets actually then be
part of the craft or the craph part of the et.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
I don't know it was one of the other, but
it was definitely a significant finding.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Now, what did these ets look like?
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Sort of medium sized grays? You know, we say the grays,
but there are there are thousands of grays. Well one
of the ones that are residents the most are the
tall grays, the small grays, the the uh the Nordics,
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and the Amphibians, and but there are about forty different
types that are visiting us.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Now, how about all these people? You know, I still
don't how can I say this without getting people mad
at me? But you know when you mentioned grays that
people think of the big head with a big, huge
almond eyes and a small slit for the mouth. And
you know when I did research years ago on it
that started from a guy's drawing back years ago. Do
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you feel do you do any of them look like that?
Speaker 8 (37:37):
I don't know. I mean I've seen different types, so
we can't say that they're all similar. I mean, I've
seen an orange, I've seen different types of small grays.
I've seen the small grays compared to the tall ones.
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I don't think they're all similar. They are all from
different star sisms star systems after all.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, and the makeup of their planet it could be
totally opposite of like what ourth is, so, I mean
that could have a lot to do with it. The
gravity could have a lot to do with it, and
all that. The way they look and their DNA and
all that.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
But right, the tall Grays told me we were trained
during that kind of summit meeting we had near the
Monzana Weapons storage area near Albuquerque, to say, on our planet,
we have areas of outstanding natural beauty like Yusemite and
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the Grand Canyon and Niagara Falls. What areas of outstanding
natural beauty do you have on your planet? And they
said an area of beautiful sand dunes when you're coming
in to land on their planet. I remember that.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Well, don't forget if their planet is like that to them,
it could be just as beautiful as Mount Everest or
Mount Rainier in our country or our planet.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
Absolutely, they definitely had a different kind of humanoid attachment
to their home planet.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Did you ever get the feeling what they think about
humans in general?
Speaker 8 (39:35):
No, I think they were. I think they were studying us,
and I think that doctor John Ma's theory that they
were trying to make humans on Earth a little bit
more earth in and environmental was certainly manifest in my life.
You know. I became a writer for the Coast Do Society.
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I earned three advanced degrees in environmental affairs. So I
think that they were trying to make us do our
best to save the Earth. They recognize the value of
the of Earth's environment.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Has any of the ets actually come out and said, look,
your days are numbered on your planet Earth because what
you're doing to it. I mean, you know, we've had
Captain Paul Watson, you know, from Whale Wars and what
he does to save the whales. I mean, he's been
on the show quite a few times through the years,
and he said, our oceans are dying and that creates
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most of our auction. People don't believe it. They think, oh,
they're the rainforests and all that. Where we get our auction.
Auction comes to the plankton of the oceans. If the
oceans die, we will die, and we're killing our oceans,
Our streams, are lakes are with pollution and everything. At
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this rate. We don't need a nuclear war in twenty years.
In twenty years from now, this planet is going to
be horribly hard to live in and live on.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Well, Gary, when I visited twenty forty five from nineteen
seventy two, there was evidence that oxygen was becoming beginning
to become depleted because the buildings were just crammed with houseplants.
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That was a very market. So we should worry about
what's going on relative to oxygen supply on Earth. I mean,
twenty forty five is only what twenty years away.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yeah, that's what's scary. Sometimes I wonder if the ets
are just like making a documentary about the Earth and
gathering as much information while we're still here in like
the next twenty thirty years from now, you know, the
planet could be totally inhabitable, and then they have a
record of it, like you know, like a record keeper.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
Well, I think that they are urging us to take
a more earthy or environmental perspective on our own planet.
They recognize the beauty and the value of Earth and
wish to save it as much as study us.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Well, you are transported to Mars in Pegasus and all
this stuff. Can I ask you a question, do we
have the capability or you think by now we have
the capability If something comes down to it, they could
start transporting a certain amount of humans to a livable planet.
Speaker 8 (42:57):
Well, I think that was always a possible outcome of
Project Mars. But I don't believe Aliens have told us that.
I think they expect us to save our home planet ourselves.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Well, I don't see it at the point it's going.
That's the scary part. Now, when you were on Mars too,
is there you know we're told there is not enough
auction on Mars to survive, to even breathe. Is that true?
Speaker 8 (43:31):
No, there's enough to breathe, And we all had We
all had oxygenation devices that we then discarded. In fact,
there were people smoking on the surface. Now I'm not
a smoker, so I didn't do that. But that was
not a singular activity. It was going on by a
number of the Mars astronauts. But there were moments of
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hypoxia and of tunnel vision. But you can breathe on
the Martian surface. And there's kind of like a the
color of kind of a baby blue boy's blanket to
the sky.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
So I think we've been lied then too about Mars,
haven't we.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
It seems like it it's more livable than has been publicized.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Well, you know some of the pictures and then naturally,
you know, NASA pulls them down or says, oh, that's
this rocks or this or that. I mean, you know,
here about a year ago they found like a side
of a hill on Mars, a entrance that it was
perfectly like like a doorway going into you know, into
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the side of this mountain or to whatever it was,
and that when you look at it and zoom into it,
it looks like it was actually a way to go
into it. And then they found here just read some
bones that they were overtook a picture of it, and
then you know that got out on the internet. Then
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NASA pulled it off and then came back, oh it
is this rocks. I mean, I think again we're being
lied to you about that planet.
Speaker 8 (45:14):
Well that's the rock is perspective. That's always been the
ignorant position on Mars. I'm still waiting for my Space
Medal of Honor when I when I saved the life
of Bernard Mendez, one of my fellow astronauts, I was
told by CIA that I would be awarded the Space
Medal of Honor. So I'm going to be planning to
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send a message to President Trump, Hey, when I'm going
to be getting my Space Medal of Honor for saving
a fellow astronauts life on the surface of Mars.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
I think what Trump needs to do not just to
come out and say that, hey, we're being visited. I
think he needs to come out and talk about some
of these programs that we've been to Mars. We had
young people on Mars, we did this on this planet,
we had things undone on the Moon. I think the
public needs to hear it.
Speaker 8 (46:15):
I totally agree, And that.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Would be the major, the biggest disclosure of anything, wouldn't it.
Speaker 8 (46:23):
Well, we need presidential leadership about what we've really done.
I promised that when I ran in twenty sixteen. But
the intervening presidents who did win the election could have
done that, but they haven't.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
No, but Bill Clary and Hillary both said I watched
him on Saturday Night Live or whatever, so it was
they said quote unquote that when they became when Clinton
became president, or he became president, he would tell the
population about UFOs and give him the real truth. And
(47:01):
you know, it never happened. And all these presidents that
come out when they ran for presidents, see they said, well,
I'm going to tell the population, but it never happens.
Speaker 8 (47:14):
Well, there's been a few presidents, because there was George
Green or Gabriel Green, myself and a few others. And
what they're really doing is they're kind of dropping these
public limited hangouts and then moving on so they can
later say, well, we talked about that. I mean, there
(47:35):
was a statement made this last year that the United
States now had the ability to manipulate time and space,
and they just hit that and then moved on.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Yeah, it was like a little teaser in the news
about that. I remember that, right.
Speaker 8 (47:58):
That's how they're handling it. But they have to stop
worrying about how people are going to respond because people
have seen so many science fiction films and so forth
TV shows that they're ready for the truth.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
You know, you got as a young kid and the
program you're in, you went back in time, you saw
Washington and actually was able to meet you. You know,
went back in Lincoln and all that. You know, when
he was going to be assassinated. But you think that
after all these years, time travel has advanced a lot more.
Speaker 8 (48:43):
It probably has. I don't know what they've done, but
I mean, I'm obviously persona non granted from the perspective
of the program. But the program must still exist in
some form. I fell apart in the early set seventies,
like nineteen seventy four, and then was rebuilt.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
Why did it fall apart.
Speaker 8 (49:08):
Because one of the program engineers had a heart attack
on the way into work, so his reporting requirements fell apart,
and they all kind of hid. They all kind of
took off for the woodwork and avoided even acknowledging that
(49:32):
they were in the program.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Now, if I could go back in time, Andy, could
I alter event? Could I go back and help prevent
Jesus from being killed?
Speaker 8 (49:49):
No, you cannot change the past. You can only fulfill it.
But why can't you can do it?
Speaker 4 (49:57):
Why can't you change it?
Speaker 8 (50:03):
That's a little bit hard to explain, but it's basically
the Grandfather paradox is. Also, let's say the kill Hitler paradox.
How would you know? How would you know to kill
Hitler to prevent his awful rise to power. If you
(50:24):
killed him before he rose to power.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
Well, I mean it looking dirty. If I could go
back in time and kill Hitler, I'd go back during
World War One when he was a sergeant, and I
would assassinate him at that point before he.
Speaker 8 (50:43):
Then he wouldn't become the fearsome individual who would deserve
being killed or be sought to be killed.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
But if I knew he was going to be that
person and I assassinated him, then then you know, maybe
it wouldn't have turned out the way it did and
all these innocent people you know, were slaughtered.
Speaker 8 (51:04):
But you see, there's the paradox. You'd have to allow
him to become that to then seek to kill him
before he came that. So manipulating in the past by
changing it is very difficult. It's a little bit easier
with future events. You know, for future presidential candidate tells
(51:28):
us that he or she is, then we have a
motive to join their campaign and work for their election,
and then proto causation works on their behalf. But retro
causation is more difficult because the very Hitler you would
seek to kill would need to be allowed to come
(51:52):
to power in World War two and not World War One,
and not as an obscurity needs portrait painter, in order
to become the monster that he became to then have
the motive to kill him.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
That is interesting. You know also too, and you know
this recently they said, you know again that I read
in the Science Journal about six months ago. They said,
now they get they're almost positive you can go forward
and backward in time. Now, you know scientists up to here.
Recently he said, you can know you can't go forward
in time, you can only go backward in time.
Speaker 8 (52:33):
Well, I've done both, so that's not really an informed opinion.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
Okay, how did it feel when you went back in time,
Let's say, when you went back to the Lincoln uh
before he was assassinated. What did What did it feel
like as a young child.
Speaker 8 (52:56):
It felt like like normal human experience. It was certainly thrilling,
because I would know the times I was in the
real treat actually was meeting General George Washington and apprising
him to retreat his troops from New York Harbor, which
(53:18):
I did by going from Oh boy, I guess I
was in the third grade and I went back in
August of seventeen seventy six. It was very thrilling to
me Washington. I didn't meet Lincoln. I just saw him
(53:41):
sitting on his balcony seating, and I saw him in
Missus Washington, a Missus Lincoln coming into Ford's theater.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
Now, when they sent you back, did they send you
back in that era clothing? Or are you in.
Speaker 8 (53:59):
If they had to? I was dressed as a Union
bugle boy when they sent me back to Gettysburden and
the Josephine Cobb image was produced.
Speaker 4 (54:13):
They got a photograph of you, don't they?
Speaker 8 (54:16):
Yes, and that's me.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
Yeah, I've seen that and it doesn't definitely looks like you.
But how about when you went back to Washington. How
are you dressed then?
Speaker 8 (54:28):
I wasn't dressed with specialized clothing.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
How did they react when you met him? I mean,
how it his aides and everybody else? Did they think
you were a spy?
Speaker 8 (54:42):
He couldn't. He couldn't fathom what we meant by time
travelers from your own future, even after we gave him
the year nineteen seventy and he said, Andrew, that that
is your name, right? He said, very much like King
Charles was fighting for the rights of an englishman. After all,
(55:02):
he said, if I go from say New York City
of Philadelphia, I can walk or perhaps take a horse
or ride in a carriage. But what do you mean
by time travelers for my own future? How would I
be traveling in time? And he just didn't get it.
(55:24):
So I gave him this hologram to show Ben Franklin,
and he agreed that Franklin would be interested because it
was such an interesting artifact from the future, kind of
like the two dimensional holograms that were then being featured
on the cover of magazines National Geographic and so forth.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
Did you tell him? Did you tell me that he
was going to become the first president of the United States?
Speaker 8 (55:55):
Yes, I explained all that.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
How did he take that?
Speaker 8 (56:00):
Look at it with a plumb He was sort of
mystified as to who we really were, and he asked
me a number of times whether we were angels, and
I said, no, no, sir, I'm a time traveler from
your own future. And he said, Andrew, I don't I
(56:22):
really think that my mind wrapped around this phrase you using.
And he finally then just understood who we were, and
he stood up ramrock straight and said I shall order
the retreat immediately. It was quite impressive. The four words
(56:44):
that I've used to describe him was, let's see, it
was courageous, idealistic, and I'm trying to think of the
name of that, that desky head. But he was very decisive,
(57:13):
that very he was very a very sort of courageous,
decisive leader. He was quite an amazing person to meet.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
That is so interesting. Hey, Andrew, our time is up.
Now you're going to come on every two weeks and
give us updates on time travel, some of your stories
that what you were involved with and what's going on.
Am I right?
Speaker 8 (57:48):
That's correct?
Speaker 4 (57:49):
Well, you know, I think that audience is going to
look forward to that.
Speaker 8 (57:53):
Yeah. And by the way, the Project Pegasus and the
time travel program resulted from the July fifty two overflight
of our nation's capital with Extra trustrial craft because we
knew that they had Tesla teleportation or something like it. Yeah,
(58:19):
so the twish issues were related.
Speaker 4 (58:25):
I think that connects it to the dots there. Well, Hey,
I want you to have a great weekend, will you
as coming up?
Speaker 8 (58:32):
I will?
Speaker 4 (58:33):
Gary, Okay, I want to thank you so much for
coming on tonight.
Speaker 8 (58:38):
All right, Well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (58:39):
Okay, my friend, you take care, Okay, take care Gary
Well JC tomorrow what we're on live on where.
Speaker 6 (58:49):
We're on live on YouTube, and I'm going to tell
you something. We have doctor Gregory Rogers coming back on
and he's got a perfectly of different stuff to talk about.
We don't want to miss the show.
Speaker 8 (59:01):
Now.
Speaker 4 (59:02):
He was a flight surgeon for NASA, and you know
he also flew a lot of craft, helicopters and even
well maneuvered a attack submarine nuclear powered.
Speaker 8 (59:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (59:15):
Not many people in this world can say they drove
one of those.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
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Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Uh no, just glad that you're you're better and looking
forward to a new season of Night Dreams Talk Radio.
Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Yeah, and you know, I had a little bit stage
fright coming back on the show here tonight.
Speaker 8 (01:00:23):
I know.
Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
But you know what it's like getting on that old horse?
You did great?
Speaker 8 (01:00:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
Well I never got on a horse, but I got
on a cow. Does that count?
Speaker 8 (01:00:31):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (01:00:31):
Does?
Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
Can you imagine the horse goes e and a cow
goes oh?
Speaker 6 (01:00:38):
Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
But I can tell you they can. They can jump
and run fast when you get on one.
Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
Oh yeah, I rode many of bronks my day.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Yeah. I was five years old. My brother put me
on a cow and uh the cow didn't like it.
Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
No, they never did.
Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Yeh. That's why I don't drink milk. Well, everybody, Betty,
have a good one. We will catch you tomorrow on
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