UFOs And E.T. Dr. Bruce Rapuano

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Referred to by some as bent and bent time and
could possibly obliterate targets, bend reality and alter the very
flow of time. Are these rumors based in truth or
are they just the latest wave of high tech conspiracies.
We'll get to the bottom of it now. While Kratzios
did not go into specific experts, believe and I have

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that right here that he may have been referring to
experimental programs in quantum computing AI and advanced military tech
projects that remain hidden from public view. Of course, as
of now, there's no official confirmation of these more extreme capabilities,
but the silence from official channels is only fueling more questions.

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One thing is certain, at least in this reporter's eyes,
something big is happening behind the scenes. Whether it's scientific
breakthrough or science fiction. We'll keep our eyes on it,
you bet we will. This is Guy Ticker of the
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Speaker 2 (01:26):
Talk Radio the best in paranormal radio. Well, thank you, John.
Well you would you know, jac would you want to
go back in time? Do you believe what is coming
out of well Washington, DC, we talked about it last week.
But would you want to go back in time? We're
forward in time or do you believe we can even
bend time?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
I think we've been messing with time for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
I'd go back to you know, maybe eighteen seventies or
you know, or maybe nineteen sixties where I got some
little bit of intel and make sure I take a
lot of old money, put down some bets.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, yeah, I would like to you know what, I'd
like to go back to the seventies, great music, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I wouldn't want to go back to the eighteen hundreds
with your personality. You know, you'd be walking down the
street and somebody's gonna pull their gun out and shoot you.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Oh yeah, I'm mean the not going to live long and.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
You wouldn't want to have that type of blowjob, would you?

Speaker 3 (02:26):
No, that's that's that's a one of No.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I wouldn't want to go back where they have you know,
medieval times, you know where they can put you on
the rack not to barbecue. It make you like if
you're five foot four and they want to make you
six foot four, Yeah, then.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
They you know, they say, hey, we're going to quarter
to you, and that that's not a good thing either.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Now the seventies is good, mid mid seventies would be
really good. Well, you know, tonight we got a great show.
Let's find out a little bit of information about our guests.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Doctor Bruce wrap you on them. Earned a BA degree
from the University of Pennsylvania, where he majored in neurobiology
and minored in psychology, a PhD in neuropharmacology from the
University of Connecticut, and a jd from New York Law School.
Doctor Rapuano has conducted independent biomedical research as a cell

(03:17):
biologist at internationally recognized medical institutions, including the Memorial Sloan
Kettering Cancer Center and the Hospital for Special Surgery, both
located in New York City. He's authored or co authored
thirty scientific articles in peer reviewed medical journals. He's published
articles on topics such as the role of membrane phospholipids

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in nerve function, the skeletal effects of cancer, metastasis, metabolic
bone diseases and the coordinate surface, electrical, and biological properties
of titanium alloy implant materials. Doctor Rapuano has also worked
concurrently as a medical research scientist and Associate radiation safety
officer at the Hospital for special SURCH. Most interesting, however,

(04:03):
maybe his book Dominion Lost, a Scientist's Own Alien Abduction,
a bumbshell nonfiction book, which is the only first person
account to date of UFO alien abductions authored by a
mainstream American scientist.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Well, Bruce, my friend, how you been. It's been a
while since you've been on.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's been a minute or two. I'm great, Gary.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
You've been staying out of trouble. I mean you're in
a big apple, so I mean, well, yeah, but you
know a lot of things you can do into the
big apple to get in trouble.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
That's for sure. I try to stay out of it though.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well that's a good move, you know. Again. You know,
we've been hearing so little about disclosure lately because other
things that's going on with the tariffs and everything else.
I mean, what's your feeling about are we going to
get real disclosure because we haven't got anything. Really.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I'm sorry to say you asked me my opinion. But
I'm sorry to say, as each week, as each month
goes by, as we talk more and more about disclosure,
I'm getting less and less optimistic, you know. I The
more I think about what they know, what we can
speculate on and make an educated speculative speculation on what

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the government knows, the more I feel it's too big
a story, too wild a story for maybe the public
to handle, and it can.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, we just.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Promises notions of reality to such a severe degree, I'm
getting more more skeptical.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Gary, I'm really septical. But you know, again, how naive
is the public when you want disclosure. Let's go back
to pre biblical times, even the biblical times, Let's go
back even before that. You know, when the hair Man
cave men were walking the earth in the caves and
they the drawings in the caves where somebody was flying

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in some type of suit on some type of equipment.
I mean, how would they ever comprehend and draw something
like that unless they've seen it. I mean, we have
had disclosure from the minute man started walking this planet.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
And yet we're still in denial.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
That's the yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
And they actually have active programs to h you know,
to not only prevent disclosure, but to you know, for
the past fifty years, to marginalize, even ridicule anyone who
talks about the subject. And so it you know, it's

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it's it certainly seems. And and we know if if
those of us who study uphology know that it's it's
a deliberate attempt, at least on the part of the
American government, uh, you know, to prevent people like you
and I from being taken seriously, let alone you know,
allowing a government official or a military official to give,

(07:08):
you know, give any information about what they what the
government knows.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
So I you know, like I say, I've got some hope,
but it's it's it's been diminishing over the past few months.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, yeah, because they promised all these promises and none
of it has really come true. I mean, they're not
keeping us updated anymore, you know that. That's right. We're
talking about Ukraine, we're talking about the terrorists, we're talking
about Washington, d C. We're talking about you know, social security,
but we're not talking about uphology munch anymore. And you know,

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the thing is, there's even people coming out of the
woodwork now, which it's really more confusing the whole subject.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yes, you know, there was talk before the election, is
shortly after the election, that this particular administration would be
you know, maybe one of the most, if not the
most transparent regarding the subject of UFOs and U A
p s. But it's it's the same old story. Where
as soon as the president, any president, any party get

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gets briefed on what the military, what I'm military with
the Pentagon knows, especially with respect to all the myriad
military applications, of what they've learned about this phenomenon that
we can't divulge to our public because we'll end up
divulging it to some other adversaries. The impression I get

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from this administration is that, you know, they're they're they're
going to be very very careful, as careful as any
other previous administration at not disclosing what could really compromise
us in a military sense, if you know, some adversary
like Iran or North Korea is able to uh, you know,

(08:53):
to to leverage this uh this this knowledge and use
it against us at some point in the future.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
So but you don't, you know, But here's another thing.
At Bruce. That has really slowed down is people coming
out and saying that they were abducted. That has slowed
down here lately.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, what I've yes, it's true. I don't see as
many people coming forward and having press conferences, are being
asked to join press conferences. You know, even even some
of the scientific conferences that that publicly state that they're
open to every aspect of the phenomenon very rarely invite abductees,

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whether they have technical backgrounds like I do, or or
the you know, the the lay person as it were.
They don't seem to encourage people to come forward and
tell their their abduction accounts. And you know, there I've
noticed there have been a few people that have published books,

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some quite compelling it. You know, you've I've interviewed a
number of people in the in the family of Chris Bledsoe.
I believe you had also had Chris on your show.
Though there's been some compelling stories that have been published.
But beyond the publication of the book and and those
and those individuals, you know, making the podcast circuit, it

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seems that almost no one in the mainstream media shows
any interests so let alone let alone the government. So that,
you know, I mean, I think I shared the discouragement,
the tone of discouragement that I'm that I'm hearing from you.
I have that as well. Well.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
You know, I just got an email, well a letter
from somebody a few days ago that you know, I've
been getting a lot of emails from the listeners and
and telling me there's stories you know about you know,
productions or UFOs or whatever. This person was driving late
at night from Moscow, Idaho. He was going to go
to Spokane where he worked. He found himself than Yakama.

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And no, he didn't even realize he was in Yakama too.
He was there to make the turn to go into Yakama.
And and you know, this person is a very professional person.
And again he had loss of time. And you know,
that's a long distance between Yakama and Spokane, or Spokane

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to Yakama. That's a long drive. I don't know how
somebody could drive and not realize they're driving it.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Right, another evidence another example of miss of missing time possibility.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, I replied to him, I said, maybe you
were abducted and then then they put you back in
the wrong area.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
There's no doubt that it's still happening. And I think
you were alluding to the fact that maybe we're maybe
the frequency abductions seems to be down from what it
might have been a decade or two ago.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
But but are they I'm still are they?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
I'm still you know, I'm still hearing from you know,
hearing accounts of people that have had abductions, you know,
when they were in their childhood or twenty or thirty
years ago, but even even from people in Generation Z.
You knows, as I meet more people, as people contact

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me because because I've published the book The Dominion Lost,
and I appear on other other other podcasts in this
particular area, you know, I'm finding out that people in
their twenties and thirties are are having very similar experiences
to people of my generation. And it's there's not a

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lot of them, but you know, at least it lets
me know that the that the that the phenomenon is
still happening. But you know, I have to agree, maybe
not to the same degree that it that it happened,
you know, a generation or two ago, but could it
be that's certainly true, But Bruce.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Could it still be happening as much as his people
now are it's more scared to talk about it than
they were in the past, you know, before the excuse
is well, you know, people you know would kind of
think that you're weird. But with all the things going on,
maybe people don't want to, you know, bring attention to
themselves right now because I hate to say it, if
you bring attention to yourself, you could be deported out

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of this country.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
I didn't think of that, Dary, but I know it's happening.
I mean, I've had people Generation X, Generation Z, you know,
when we shared stories, had the same things happened to
them that happened to me, you know, aspects of the
abduction phenomenon, what I call the core abduction scenario, whethers

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unexplained bleeding or strange implants that have been reported you
know now for fifty years or more. You know, I
meant young people that just report to me remarkable similarity
to what I've experienced, to the point where the two
of us have to shake our heads and say, you know,
I'm not as shocked, but the younger person is usually

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shocked to say, wow, I mean that happened to someone
else other than me. I said, yes, it's happened to
thousands of people and and you know, but you know
your your point. I'm sorry to say, maybe maybe a
valid one that maybe they're you know, more afraid than
never to come forward and say something strange or controversial

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about what they experience.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Well, they could be deported. They could Mars or Venus
or Saturn. They could be deported too. That's the safe
way to say it, if you really think about it.
I mean, people are now, like I said, you know,
we were having a big movement on upology, you know,
and now like with everything that's going on, it's not

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as much. Even if you go on X or you
go on a lot of these platforms, the regulars are
still posting, but you're not seeing many other people. And
you know, again, just think about it. I I have
a friend who has friends who claimed that they were
abducted in planet or you know that they might not
even be humans. I mean, and I don't need to

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hear that from one person. I hear it from a
lot of people that you know, through their lives they've
noticed some strange things going on.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
They I guess they don't believe it because no one
knowing in the media, knowing in our government. Although they'll
talk about the subject of UFO, of UFOs and UAPs
know one at heavy level, from the government to the media.
I won't say that about certain areas of the media,

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but for the mainstream media, very few elements want to
touch this subject of alien abduction even today. You know,
I thought that, I thought that might change. But I
know that the fact that I published a book not
about UFO close encounters, but about close encounters as well

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as alien abductions means I'm not going to be sought
out by a lot of elements, many elements of the
of the mainstream media, because they still don't take it seriously.
And as you and and as you and I know,
this can be potentially for the human race a fatal
mistake not to take this particular subject seriously. I'm afraid

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that that happens far too often.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I really think it does. Do you like this? You know? Again,
we got more listeners and different listeners all over the world,
by the way, than we had the last time You're on.
Can you explain what happened to you?

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Well?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I had a number of, as I said before, episodes
where I had close encounters with the UFO and experiences
beating strange, short humanoid beings that look like the classic
classic gray aliens three and a half to four foot tall,

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disproportionately large heads. They were actually white in color, and
I saw them a number of times throughout my life,
like the great majority of abductees. But the first experience
I can recall happened at the age of six years old.
Where I'm in bed, it's the summertime. I'm nodding off
to sleep. I see a strange looking airplane outside my window.

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I thought that I've never seen an airplane like this before,
and I strangely fall asleep, and I wake up and
I'm board. I'm not in my room anymore, seemingly, I'm
board a UFO surrounded by dozens of these Like I say, bahuld.
It's three and a half to four foot tall humanoids

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and lying on a table, the classic abduction scenario where
the abductee is on a table in a room that's
very much like some human clinical environment. I thought I
was in a hospital. And you know, I've had other
close encounters where there were multiple witnesses to a UFO

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that was within five hundred feet of us, that was
so bright it was almost hard to look at, and
in fact was two and a half three times as
large as the full moon. And this was when I
was ten years old, And there were very strange aspects
of this particular episode where everything got quiet. This is

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very characteristic of UFO close encounters. They call it the
oz syndrome. I couldn't hear the animals anymore, of the crickets,
the grasshoppers, and a number of things happened that caused
me not to see what others had seen. After the
UFO had left and we kind of, you know, shared

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details of what we had witnessed. Clearly, I hadn't seen
a number of features features of the UFO, and someone
had reported that I was missing from the scene for
a period of time. This again was another of my
not only a UFO close encounter, but another of my
abduction experiences. And I've had a number of other experiences

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where again I have missing time. And if whatever I
can recall, it's always meeting or having experiences with the
same type of alien being, same stature, same same frame,
that that we now know as the classic great alien.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
What do you think they're doing? I mean, again, if
we go back in time, how many people do they
need to keep abducting. It can't be just for DNA
unless they're trying to alter our DNA of humans on
this planet. What do you think is going on?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
But what you just said, Gary is it touches out
the only theory at this point that makes sense to me.
And if we're talking thousands and some UFO investigators, some
of the most respected abduption investigators, I think this could be,
This could involve millions of people. The only thing that
makes sense to me is that since there is so

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much evidence that there is some type of a genetic
program where a hybrid species alien human hybrid species, I
call it a transgenics because what they're doing is they're
introducing novel genes or alien genes into the human genome,
and they're doing this for thousands or millions of people

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because they want to increase the frequency of these genes
in the Homo sapien population for some unknown reason. For
all we know, and I'm not the first to say this,
and I won't be the last. This is part of
a process that has been ongoing in our species, not
for thousands, but for millions of years. It's possible that

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human beings arose from these types of genetic experiments that
were done by some advanced civilization that's come to the Earth,
and our stock or genetic stock is continue to be
upgraded by the same species or different species even till today.
For what purpose, I can only speculate. We can only speculate.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
But you know, again, I was reading a science journal
a couple of years ago. You know that men being
able to cause pregancy is going down that at its
rate in the next couple of hundred years, it's going
to be if you're a female want to have a baby,
it might be really hard and you might have to,
you know, have to go for your gene poll to

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be able to find somebody to you know, And what
is going on with that? Could that be some of
the manipulation that they might be doing.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
To possibly you know, maybe they're trying to create an
altered human genome, a new race to replace the rest
of humanity. And they would be advantageous in terms of
their purposes if they could, if they could increase the

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number of human beings that have these you know, novel
or alien genes in their genome, and well, I'm to
replace the rest of us that don't have the don't
have the gene.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I was thinking maybe the ones that do have the
alien DNA, they will be able to take over eventually,
where the non alien DNA will not be able to.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Right, you know, and if perhaps in the latter group
their numbers are dwindling, and and you know, ultimately the
population will shift for a number of reasons. Now, the
other possibility is that, you know, if if if the

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rest of humanity who are not abducted are not expendable,
which I you know, which I there's there's you know,
not much evidence that to support that. That that that's
that's the view, that's the view of the aliens. But
in that case, then what they would what the aliens
probably would try to promote, or at least it would

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would be in favor of what would be the breeding
of the abductees, not the abductees, but the human alien
hybrids with the rest of the population, so that these
genes can spread throughout the entire human race. But you know,
as you said, this decrease in fertility and especially in

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the part of the male of our the males of
our species, would kind of work against that. So I
can't really say what what that's attributable to whether that's
just something that's related to our diet or whether that's
the result of some conscious genetic manipulation by by an
advanced DT civilization. Well, I know are not sure.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Our DNA is constantly changing, and that is very interesting too,
because I was reading the Science Journal here this last
week that you know that the DNA has been making
some major changes here in the last decade, so a
lot of people don't even realize that. So it's being
altered one way or the other.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Well, it happens slowly, you know, it's for for over
many many generations, thousands of generations for you know, the
most advantageous traits to be selected for in a population.
What the aliens are doing is in the in the
course of just several four five generations, they're accelerating evolution,

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I believe by and we don't know what genes are
involved by these genetic manipulation experiments. So you know, there's
some view on the part of the aliens to accelerating
human evolution for our benefit or for their benefit, which

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isn't We really don't have any evidence scientific at least
that would bear on that question.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, there's so much on this topic. We need to
take a break and we come back Bruce. I have
a lot of questions to ask you, and we might
take one or two callings here later during the show.
But first we got some good music, so we'll be
back with Bruce in about three minutes.

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And we are back. Hey, Bruce, Yeah, a lot of
things again going on with When you think about abductions,
how about implants again, There's so many people that you know,
go to the doctor, go to the hospital, and then
some strange things appear in their MRI or X radies.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I have to go back to this story I told
you a few minutes ago because it really startles me.
You know, I had many years ago read Raymond Fowlers
The Andreasen Affair, about the story of Betty Andreasen who
had so many abduction experiences, and I'll never forget how

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the implants she described placed in her nasal cavity by
a humanoid that was very similar to in appearance to
the Grays. And I remember remember, since I was six
years old, the same implant being in my nasal cavity,

(30:52):
the fact that it was spherical two to three millimeters
in diameter, it had rough edges or projection on the surface.
I remember this my entire life since then. And then
to me the generations Z person or X, and have
him tell me that I couldn't. I couldn't sleep for

(31:16):
a nine or two after I read your book because
I can remember the same implant and just like myself,
I can't. He confessed he has no idea where it
came from. Now, in my case, I speculate that it
must have something to do with my abduction experiences, but

(31:37):
he doesn't have any consciously recalled abduction experiences, just symptoms
of the correbduction scenario. So this is, as you said,
quite common. Roughly ten percent of abductees report having some
type of implant, either behind the ear, inside the ear canal,

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underneath the eye, or in the nasal cavity. So this is,
you know, a relatively common aspect of abductions. And my
book I speculate on as to what possible purpose of
these implants might be. But really, you know, we don't
have it. We have little or or no hard science

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on retrieved implants. A number of implants have been retrieved
from abductees. There radiosotope ratio has been studied, their metallic composition,
but still there have been no there's been no scientific
data that would allow the investigator to to distinguish the

(32:43):
implant from something could that could have been could occur
terrestrially or manufactured here on earth. So no smoking gun
yet with respect to these implants. There are one or
two cases where, you know, the data is very suggestive
that it's it's a manufacturing, manufactured device that has some

(33:06):
function some functionality like a wireless radio transmitter, but very few,
very few cases like that.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Well, when Whitley Strieber was on our show last and
by the way, he'll be on I think next Friday again. Uh.
You know, he is getting messages and and and in
like a text form from his implant. And you know,
for years he didn't understand how his implant was working.

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And it's only been the last couple of years that
he's actually kind of merging with the implant. And it's
so it's it's communicating with him and giving him information.
And I'm just wondering, have you talked to other people
that have had implants saying that they're getting information of
all kinds stuff.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
That's a remarkable story from Whittley Streeper. You know, I
can't say that I have I can't say that I've
heard anyone claim that they have noticed any difference in
their memory, cognitibilities IQ or any other faculty that was

(34:17):
you know that they associate with having an implant. But
it's remarkable the number of people that have found out
through neuroimaging studies, through MRI or CT studies of the brain,
and they have the implant. The radiologists can't identify what
the object is. And yet on a number of occasions,

(34:40):
the abductee, like Whitley, has decided they're going to live
with it in no case, whether they found it in
their ear but behind their ear, but they would never
consider having it removed unless it was very dangerous to
their health, because they feel they seem to have been
made to Understan and Gary that it's it's having that

(35:04):
implant serving a larger purpose. Now, of course, I always
refer to this as potentially Stockholm syndrome, where the abduct
the captive person is identifying with the motives of the
abductor and they've been convinced that, you know, by the
maybe aliens that have abducted them, that you know, what

(35:26):
they're doing is part of some grand plan that's going
to benefit humanity. As I said, I'm always going to
be always going to be skeptical about that. But briefly,
I just want to say that I've done a lot
of research, and there's a lot of material in my
book to meaning Lost about the potential for these implants
to function as some type of brain computer interface that

(35:49):
can accept information transmitted remotely from an alien AI computer
for whatever purpose, to to to educate, to give humans
more knowledge, or to you know, look at the looking
at the other side of the coin, to the control
humans by controlling the brain.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, maybe they're doing a trial right now, for you know,
they can't what is time? An hour on our planet
could be who knows on another planet, So the prospect
of time, you know, we have to rule that out.
But again, maybe there were subjects right now, test subjects
for maybe later on. How about mind control or something

(36:32):
in that nature. Yes, again, so many people I've interviewed
they say the same thing. Oh, aliens, they abducted me.
They took me on board of a crafty, they prodded me,
they stuck things into me, they opened me up, they
examined me, and then after they were all done, they
gave me a tour of the craft and said, you
got to tell your everybody you know on your planet

(36:56):
that if you don't make these changes, you're not going
to be around own. But yet it was like, oh,
now we're buddy, buddy. After they kidnapped you, tortured you,
and put you for all that, and who knows if
they were implanted on top of it.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I don't subscribe to the theory that these implants are
part of the program, our program of accelerated evolution. In
other words, it's being done for our benefits so that
we can be you know, we can be incorporated into
the cosmic community and be more welcome there and be

(37:33):
able to interact more effectively with more advanced civilizations. I
you know, I talk a lot about the potential in
the hands of human scientists as well as ets for
these types of devices, these brain well in theory brain
computer interfaces, potential for just as you say, mind control,

(37:59):
to be able to make human beings loyal subjects of
some advanced civilization and do their bidding and perhaps be
part of some plan for altering the course of human events. Perhaps,
you know, you alluded to the fact that there have

(38:21):
been communications to abductees that human beings aren't good stewards
of the planet. We're not taking care of the planet.
And you know, these visiting ets from some distant galaxy
may have a stake in the planet our natural resources
and they've got to they have to get handle on

(38:41):
the dominant species that may not be taking good care
of those natural resources that they need, and they may
have to exert more and more control over human beings
in order to protect the stake they have on our planet.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, you never know, it could be going on. And
what in DC right now believe or not. Anyway, we
got a color. Who do we have?

Speaker 6 (39:05):
This is Tom?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
By Tom, how are you doing?

Speaker 6 (39:08):
I'm doing okay. My question for your guests is I
have read and I would like to know if he
can corroborate this one way or the other that ever
since Kennedy, when a president is elected and he is
briefed by the CIA and other entities that they are

(39:32):
told in no uncertain terms that they are not to
tell they are briefed, but they are told not to
discuss the disclosure issue because it would impact national security
in a major way. And they're told very strongly not
to do that. And I was just wondering what his
take on that is.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Okay, Tom, he'll tell you on air.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I definitely, I definitely think that every president since Harry
Truman has been briefed and has essentially been told that
as far back as nineteen forty seven, the US military
was aware of very very important military applications for the

(40:23):
technology that's associated with the crash UFOs, and I think
very soon after Roswell, if you follow the work of
the late Lieutenant Colonel Philip Corso, many components of UFOs
have been farmed out to various universities, private companies for

(40:49):
reverse engineering. And I think it's probably the most compelling
reason even today for any administration, for any president to
be very circumspect about what he would consider divulging to
the public, because you know, I think that's these technologies

(41:09):
are such breakthrough technologies could not only radically transform the
way we use energy or provide us with limitless amounts
of energy, but they also can be used to generate
weapons that we cannot even imagine even today, and to
have those fall into the hands of some roe state

(41:32):
would be what could lead to the end of humanities.
To me, I believe that's the that's the most compelling
reason against disclosure by any any executive administration, at least
at least in America.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Well, I also feel that if they came out and
told us the truth tomorrow, then everything they've ever told
us on a lot of different subjects, we're not going
to believe the government anymore, and we're going to the
government's going to lose control. All Yes, Okay, we got
another color. Who do we have?

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (42:06):
This is Barb, Hi Barb. How are you doing this
Thursday night?

Speaker 6 (42:09):
I'm doing all right.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
First, I want to thank the guests for coming on.

Speaker 6 (42:16):
And let him know I really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
And I wanted to ask him, how did you find
out you had an implant?

Speaker 6 (42:24):
And do you still have it?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
It's a great question, It's great great questions. I had
a period in my life where I had my first
conscious recollection of an abduction, and within days or weeks
of that particular experience, I had a flashback where I

(42:50):
could remember exactly the shape, the size, the structure of
the implant, and not only that, but to have an
emotional reaction associated with this particular memory. And that was
based on the fact that I can remember being told,

(43:11):
be careful, this implant confault out of your nose. That's
how I knew it was a nasal implant. If you
sneeze to too forcefully or blow your nose too hard,
and you know. So That's that's how I was able
to draw the to connect the dots in terms of
all the experiences I had that let me to believe

(43:33):
that I not only I was abducted, but I had
a nasal implant. Very close to that period of time,
I had an unexplained serious nosebleed or I had a
telepath of communication, for my belief was one of the
abductors informing me to be careful, don't let anyone find
out that you had this nose bleed. And I ran
to the bathroom, as if under command, washed off all

(43:56):
the evidence just as my family was entering the apartment,
so I'm able to remove the evidence so they didn't
discover what had happened to me. And in telling this story,
I think I need you to repeat your second question.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
She's already off the line. Okay, Now the thing when
this happened, did you tell your parents or any you know,
relatives afterwards or friends afterwards that you found this object
in your nostril?

Speaker 3 (44:24):
This has been a common common, you know, result of
all these experiences is that I don't feel or as
if I'm I don't feel any urge to tell anyone,
Or is it almost as if I've had some post
hypnotic suggestion not to tell anyone? You know. The feeling

(44:50):
I get is is it's if a parrot or an
authority figure has communicated to me, be very very quiet
about what happened to you. It's very analogous gary to
victims of sexual abuse who are or were kept from
communicating anything of what happened to them to any adults.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Well, a lot of it, because you know, when you
go like sexual abuse, it's because they feel ashamed, so
they don't want to go and tell anybody, and it
takes a lot to pull them out. Did you feel that.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Way, yeah, right right. I find that in my situation,
it's really a sense that that feels something akin to
a postmotic suggestion. For some reason, I just feel no
urg I felt no urge as a child to tell anyone.
I integrated it. I found found some way to integrate

(45:46):
it into my life at that young age by convincing
myself that I had surgery in a very strange hospital
to remedy these very painful ear infections I had had
again at the age of six years old. But why
I never discussed that with my parents, I can't really explain,

(46:11):
as I've tried to give explanation. I only mentioned it
to one person in my life, and that was to
my surgeon. At the time I was about to go
under anesthesia. I asked my ear nose, and throat surgeon
I was having my tonsils and andoids rooms, I said, doctor,
can you tell me something? Why didn't I have to

(46:32):
have two surgical procedures, and he looked at me as
if I had two heads. He'd never answered me. He
looked so startled. I'll never forget the look kind of
his face, because I thought that the abduction event and
my experience on board the UFO, surrounded by dozens of
these alien beings, was in a hospital, and I had

(46:54):
had some type of procedure done, as I said, you know,
for the purpose of treating or curry my ear infections.
So other than my ear nose and throw surgeon, I'd
never mentioned anything to anyone about what happened to me
at that period in my life.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah, it would be really hard to to communicate what
happened to you too, because you know they're going to
think a kid that age has a really great imagination.
Don't forget, I don't know your age. But you know,
even if you were born in the sixties, you know,
what we saw on TV growing up was what Loss
in Space, Star Trek, all kinds of B movies from

(47:32):
the fifties and early sixties. So, I mean, there's a
lot of contamination that people go through. And you know,
if you started saying, well, hey, I was maybe abducted
or they did this. They're gonna just okay, this kid
has a vivid imagination right right now, people, is there
certain individuals out there are more targeted for repeated abductions

(47:58):
than other people?

Speaker 3 (48:00):
So let me let me see if I understand your question.
Are you Are you asking the question whether particular abductees
are subject to more well experiments, Yes, subducted more often.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Some abductees seem to be more abducted more often than others,
right repeated.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
You know, I can only speculate. I know there's a
lot of evidence that that the the ets involved show
a lot of interest in seem to show a lot
of interest in specific certain bloodlines. You'll find that and
an abduction research has shown this. It's very likely if

(48:44):
you've abducted that your children or your your parents will
have you know, they won't associate with the alien abduction,
but will have had very similar experiences. Now, you know,
it's possible that they for the purposes of their genetic experiments,

(49:05):
they need to find a using human beings as the
background strain. If they're trying to do some type of
genetic pipulation, they need a certain genetic makeup, a certain
genome to use as subjects, and some individuals may not
fit the genetic profile for whatever reason, for the types

(49:27):
of experiments they're doing. You know, in human research, we
use you know, for preparing genetically altered mice or rats.
We always work with the same background strain, with the
same in a range of genetic traits. So I don't

(49:48):
scientific reasons for this.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I don't want to scare anybody, Bruce, But what do
we do with those mice, rabbits and other monkeys and
dogs and cats? What do we when we're done with that?
What do we we dispose of them? Don't we?

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Well, we we don't. We think of them as a
much lower species than our species, and we dispose of them.
And I you know, this conversation has has come up before,
but it's it's my hope that we're we are seen
as one of the intelligent, technologically capable species of our

(50:24):
part of the universe, and therefore, you know, there we
might be treated a little bit differently.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
But here's the thing. I've heard from so many people
through the years that claim that when they were abducted
taking aboard a craft, they either heard other people screaming
and pain, they seen like tubes with you know, human
like bodies in them, you know. And also they've seen

(50:53):
I've heard it from numerous people through the years, body
parts and they seem like they like young, younger people
too for body parts. So I mean, that is all
this possible because we again people are looking at these
Oh there's only one species or one type of you know,

(51:13):
humanoid it's coming to this planet. It's just grays. But
I don't believe the ones that look like dinosaur part
I don't or insects, I don't buy those. But I mean,
but again, we could be being visited by others that
have other motives.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I have to get to the basic part of the
of the this alien abduction story, which is that many
of UFO investigators have talked about the agreement that President
Eisenhem were supposed to be with the aliens, that they
would we would allow them to subduct an experiment of

(51:52):
human beings in return for technology. And you know the
story of what was supposedly happened in the deep underground
military base in Dulce, New Mexico, where you know, the
aliens are supposed to do not harm human beings as
part of this agreement. Just conduct experiments or turn them
unharmed to their homes. But the military found out that

(52:14):
wasn't happening, that in fact, they were doing things like
you were alluding to a minute ago, and and there
was a conflict, an engagement between the aliens and some
Special Forces soldiers that did not end well for the
Special Forces soldiers. So there's a there's a number of
stories and a number of accounts that would that would

(52:36):
tend to support the contention that at least one or more,
as you say, there may be multiple civilizations conducting experiments
on human beings, but there's at least one or two
of them that in terms of the way they're treating
human beings, their intentions can only be viewed as hostile.

(52:59):
If that's how they treat you in beings, what would
be the next step?

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Well, look at this. You were a young kid. What's
six years old when this happened to you. Okay, just
think about what would happen if somebody came in your
house and took a six year old away and did
whatever they did to you. They would be locked up
for the rest of their life. That would be the
end of it. And these they don't care how old

(53:26):
you are. They don't care. If you're a baby, they
don't care, if you're a six year old, or a
twelve year old or a seventy year old, they don't care.
They don't care if you're male or female. If they're
going to take you for whatever they're doing, and you're
marked to be one of them, and you're marked. I
really think that the people are being abducted. It's a tree.

(53:46):
It goes into where a family has had repeatedly abductions
going back and who knows how long, because like a
lot of people like you, and a lot of people,
they don't go on and say to well, hey to
their wife, you know, and I was years old I
was abducted. Or you go up to one of your employees,
you know, or one of your coworkers and say, you know,

(54:06):
I was six years old. I was abducted and taken
on a spacecraft. And they did you know what, You
wouldn't be having that job very long, and you wouldn't
have pians very long, and you might not be married
very long.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Agreed. I don't know if I've ever told you the
story about my grandfather.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
We got to jump in here. Can you hang? Can
you hang in for another fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I certainly can't.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
And this story is that my grandfather, at the age
of forty two, had a nasal infection. He had a
blood clot and and a blood signus behind the nasal
cavity called cerebral venus thrombosis. Chances of that are one
in ten million of that happening and nineteen thirty two, however,

(55:02):
that infection infection arises in an air sinus called the
sphenoid sinus, again behind the nasal cavity. And guess what,
that's the exact sinus that's used for an avenue of
surgical approach by human neurosurgeons to take out pituitary tumors.
So in that case, that particular procedure for removing pituitary

(55:26):
tumor is not has causes this cerebral venus thrombosis at
a much higher incidence. In fact, one out of every
one hundred, five out of every hundred surgeries lead to
this particular type of infection. So that leads me to
speculate that my grandfather have no dental procedures, no infections,

(55:49):
no medical issues at any time before he developed this
particular condition where the infection spread to the mininius of
his brain and that took his life, which again only
happens one out of ten million times. That instead he
might have had some type of surgical intervention not by

(56:11):
human doctors but by alien doctors that happened to go wrong,
especially in the age where there were no antibiotics in
nineteen thirty two. So do I think there were many
people that through well through we call it aatrogenic effects,
the effect of the scientists or surgeon that have lost

(56:34):
their lives in the midst of an abduction that when
we never hear about. I do, and I think one
of them was my grandfather.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Well yeah, you know again, anytime that you take a
person and you abduct him and even implant, the fear
that that person goes through. I mean, you think about it,
that a lot of people could sucome just from that,
from a heart issue or what have you. Now I've
heard from people that you know that Timothy Colin, that

(57:03):
the late doctor Roger Lear removed implant from him. And
I still have the image that Timothy sent me years ago,
and it was analyzed and yes, that the compound was
a lunmin in some other compound, but the structure could
not be compounded on this planet. A acetote rachel it

(57:25):
could not have been formulated on this planet. In other words,
the other metal they put with it would not bound
to it.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
In a similar vein. One of the most common finding
with these implants is that they're they're they're illuminatum. There
most of the elemental composition is aluminum, but at such
a high percentage it could not be manufactured at that

(57:56):
high percentage. In other words, no human manufacturing process could
make that pure an amount of aluminum. And that's happened
a number of times with a number of implants, clearly
indicating the implant was manufactured but not here on Earth.
So what does that tell you? Somebody else made it?

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, but the thing is, we got to figure out
what it's being used for. Again, Whitley claims that he
has been getting signals off of his implant, you know
telecommunications where they're actually sending him information off of it,
and for years he couldn't actually figure it out. And
now he's slowly figuring out they're trying to communicate with him.

(58:38):
But again, it's like if you try to communicate with
a chimpanzee. A chimpanzee's only going to understand very little.
So a human if they're trying to, you know, communicate
with us in a level that you know, giving us information,
especially digitally or however they're doing it, we're not going
to digest it.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
More than that. What if they're stimulating the brain in
certain ways that foster more connections that actually rewire the brain,
so it's not simply transfer knowledge, but it's actually transforming
the cognitive faculties of the brain. You could you could

(59:22):
you could result in human beings having having not just
enhanced cognitive abilities, but novel abilities that no human beings
have extra sensory abilities, ability to read minds that you
know that really had nothing to do with with information transfer,

(59:43):
but actually have something to do with the innate functioning
of the of the human brain. That's something that could
be involved, I think. So it's could be targeted by
the by the implant.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Now I'm not saying all psychics are real or mystiques
are real, but there is a certain percentage of out
there at aims to be able. And there's been tests
done and a couple of major colleges on it where
they're more perceptive to things. And maybe, if I wonder,
here's the problem. They probably never were checked for implants.

(01:00:14):
I'm just wondering if some of these people that have
these gifts and stuff like that, you know, they should
be actually checked to see if they've been implanted with
the MRI or some type of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Well, you know, the MRI studies have shown, leaving this
side the issue of the implants, that people who are
very intuitive and abduction experiences have changes in the wiring
in a certain area of the brain and the basil ganglia.
Both both both sets of individual individuals have the same

(01:00:49):
changes that are very rarely seen in other populations of
human beings, suggesting that you know, maybe this is you know,
something that was innate to those individuals, or maybe they've
been modified some way, their brains have been modified by
interacting with with with advanced alien beings. But you know

(01:01:13):
that that suggests that whether or not something is being
done to alter the human genome, which alters the human brain,
whether that's done for our benefit or or whether that's
do to facilitate inter our interactions, our communications since we're
using the normal sensors or or extra in an extra

(01:01:34):
sensory manner. That certainly seems that there is now from
the neuroimaging studies, some some real hard scientific data indicating
that the brains of abduction experiences are different, and there
are stories that continue to continue to go on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Their brain winds have been altered. I've read that now here.
Here's the thing I've said so many times also on
this show, is you know there's reporting centers, you got
mouf On, you got this, you got this, you got
you know the government, you know now where you can
actually you know, report a UFO whatever. But there's nothing nothing.

(01:02:13):
Here's the point. There's been thousands and thousands of people
who have claimed that they've been abducted. It has destroyed
their lives. Where they go a bet at night, they're terrified,
male or female, they go a bet at night and
they're wondered, am I going to be abducted while I'm sleeping?
Am I going to be taken again? And they have

(01:02:34):
to live with that the whole rest of their life.
There's nobody they can turn to. There's nobody they can
go get really help. Is there no government agency? I know, hey, hey,
one hundred UFO help. I mean, there's nothing there abduction help.
There's nothing there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Well, I know people at move On that say that
they specialize in dealing with the abduction cases, that's their areas.
But specializing, well, what have they done in that in
the area you mentioned in terms of uh, you know,
providing some type of you know, outreach to these these

(01:03:13):
people and not just studying them as a you know,
a scientific subject worthy of investigation, but but you know,
doing something much more humane than that. I don't see
that as you don't as you as you fail to
observe that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
There's no help for these people, is none?

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
And that destroys their life. I've talked to some of
these people that have claimed that they've been implanted or
abducted multiple times, and they're not just terrified against themselves,
they're worried about if they have children, and if they
have children, is their children being abducted? And just having
to live with that thought is really scary, And it's

(01:03:56):
no If you go up to your doctor and do
you know what your doctor going to do? They're going
to hand you a bottle or a prescription for a
bottle of medication. Hey, you got schizophrenic, You're you know
you got this, you got that, you need this. They
don't take it as real.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
They're never going to be believed even today. It takes
a rare individual like doctor John Mack, the Harvard psychiatrist,
but I who is the leading one of the leading
UFO abduction investigators. But that type of individuals is very
very rare. And you know, I have to tell you

(01:04:37):
that I have made other scientists aware of my experiences
and express an interest in collaborating with with groups. With
this particular group of scientists and was well, they turned
a cold shoulder to me as soon as they found

(01:04:58):
out of my operiences. And they probably were interested initially
because of my scientific background. Still as soon as you
mentioned the word of abductee, than the interest is eliminated.
Well interesting though, over there, they don't want to have
anything to do with it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
They don't. You know a lot of people I known
lost their jobs because they told their coworkers I think
I was abducted, and it got back to their boss
and the boss goes, well, you know, we've got to
find a way to get rid of them. I mean,
it's one thing to say, well I saw a UFO. Okay,
that's cool, but you know, again, we are naive as

(01:05:36):
a society not to believe that people are being abducted. Now,
there's certain a group of people out there. They want
their one minute of fame, so they're going to make
up stories. I had one on a couple of years
ago that had a book that was being produced by
a major book publishing company, and the publisher was listening
on and I caught the lady in so many lies.

(01:05:59):
The publisher got a hold of my producer and they said,
there were you know, we already produced the books, were
pulling them. They're not going to go out circulation.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
But there's those type of people. But there's the other
people like you. And I can name so many like
Timothy Colin, Terry Lovelace, and you know, a whole bunch
of people that I really believe their stories that something
happened to them. They And again, like I said, who
you go to the help? That's that's the whole thing is.

(01:06:31):
There's no place you go to your doctor. Even I
know one person I can't mention their name, but a
few years ago went to the doctor. The doctor removed
the implant out of the patient. And then the patient
who's kind of famous in acting said to the doctor, well,
what is it? I don't know, but I'm going to

(01:06:52):
send it to the lab. Now. He didn't have any
medical issues to have that implant where it was at.
But he called the doctor a couple of weeks later
and said, well, where's the results from that you sent
into the lab. Well, let me call the lab because
you know, we haven't heard back from it. Never got
to the lab.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
The lab denies ever getting it. And im it's not
just from him. I've heard that from other people for
the years too, that they had implants. They went to
the doctor, and then the doctor at that point after
they removed the implant and they, you know, they they
made some type of story up about their implant. They
didn't want them as a patient anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
I've heard of missing fetus syndrome with the abduction researchers,
but I've never heard of missing implant syndrome. Oh yeah,
I wonder who's responsible for that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Well maybe you know, when they send it to the lab,
the lab gets it and they go, oh my god.
And you know, I'm sure they have some protocol on
certain things, so who knows what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
To be a lot of very serious significant applications of
these implants. And as I say, I'm wondering about the
discoveries we haven't heard about because people want to keep
a secret. And I mentioned the wireless transmitter that they
can see under. They think it's a wireless transmitter that
they can see under an electron microscope of you know,

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that's attached to an alien implant. But what about all
the other findings of functionalities perhaps that are never divulged
for because of the fact that they want to keep
this so that they're keep a secret, so that the
company or the company they're working with can be the

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first to you know, reverse engineer and make the big money.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
I don't even know if it's that, but maybe again too,
who knows how many people have been implanted, But I
really think that anybody who's been really truly abducted and
taking a board and experimented on, I willing to bet
they were implanted. I can't see that they were put
back on the Earth, not implanet.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
My estimate, if there's a million people abducted, one hundred
thousand of them, one hundred thousand of them on average
probably have been implanted.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
And that's the scary part, you know, again, what for
what reason? You know, we do sence, you know, implant
you know, animals, you know, fish, all kinds of birds,
and all kinds of things to find out how they
survive in their environment and what their life is, basically
like with radio and all that stuff. But this again,

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we don't understand the technology what they're actually looking for.
Are they trying to put a map of human civilization together,
or are they trying to alter a human society or
are they trying to alter in a way to end
the society over a period of time and change the

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society over to hybrids. There's something else.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
I wish I could remember his name, Maybe you do.
The director of the CIA under Richard Nixon was the
one that wrote about use of cybernetic control of human
beings for the purpose of, especially in young children, to
stimulate or accelerate their intellectual development. Cybernetic control, in other words,

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sounds an awful like an implant to me. So if
the CIA was drawing up plans, you know, for these
type of studies fifty years ago, you know, can you
imagine the capabilities that an alien civilization might have. The
way I describe it in my book is they would
have a technology that would allow them to play the

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human brain like a piano. If that's what if we
can do. You know, if Elon Musk can simulate a
certain part of the brain so that you know, he
can restore function quadriplegic or paraplegic, imagine what an advanced
civilization could do with their brain machine interfaces.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Well, think about must down the future, you know, not
just that. Could you imagine getting implanted with a chip?
Do you know if you really and this is going
to get kind of like out there a little bit.
But from the standpoint, they could actually control your thoughts
in some ways.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
They can control your thoughts. They can make you forget
what they want you to forget. They can implant false memories.
They can with an implant do what they were doing
in the matrix. They can create a virtual reality. You
wouldn't have to be hooked up to a machine, but
you could. Your entire experience can be manufactured, fabricated by

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the remote transmission of a signal from a remote AI
to a little chip that's no more than two or
three millimeters that's implanted somewhere in your brain or your
nasal cavity. Well, it's a good way to believe that
will happen maybe in the next fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I think it's probably about five to ten years out seriously,
And what I'm scared it's going to be mind control
where they can actually can control the society if there's
certain you know, thought, give this society certain thoughts and
to control them. And that's the scary part. You know.

(01:12:34):
It's like some of those movies that were made like
The God I can't think the name of it, but
where again, where they use mind controlled chips and this
movie was made like twenty five years ago. It's some
of these people who wrote these scripts and stuff really
conceived for in the future.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Amazing visionaries. But the scary part is if it can
be done and there's a military application for it, it's
going to get done. It's going to get done here
or what are two other countries in the world. What
it's It's like AI, you can't put the genie back

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in the bottle. We're going to have artificial general intelligence.
We're going to have super a g I that's far
superior to us. And I think we're going to have
implants just like the one the ones you described, and
that's who's in whose hands are they going to be?
That's scary, that's the question.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
That's scary.

Speaker 7 (01:13:30):
It is and I've read a lot about that and
Dominu lost in terms of how the how those that
type of implant could work with material, how it would work,
what material would use, what type of energy would project into.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
The brain, And it's a it's a very very unique
type of research on how a potential alien implant could
work inside the human brain.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Well, they could actually make all everybody happy, you know,
take accept what's going on when it could be really
bad to control the society. You know, they accept what's
going on. Hey, turn your best friend in, do this,
do that, you're doing it and you have no control.
But again, with these AI, I really think AI is

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going to be the downfall of man eventually. I really
feel that. But with these alien implants and all this
stuff it's happening. I'm telling you, we're not being told
the truth. And I don't think they're going to tell
us the truth. And what's scary is again, some of
these people that have had you know, like Whitley or
these other people I talk about, something is going on.

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They're trying the ets or whoever they are or trying
to communicate, but we're not intelligent enough yet our brain
to decipher what they're trying to say.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
They're programming us to believe we're here from Alpha Centauri,
from Alpha Centauri, and we're here to help you. And
that's what, as you say, many abductees believe they're to
cure our diseases, to make us better than we were.
You know, let's really carefully, very carefully examine the evidence

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of that. I know there have been a couple of
books written about it by experiences, but let's let's look
closely at that. As you know, I keep using the
words skeptical, but I'm highly, highly skeptical of that particular postular.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Are you going to be writing another sequel to your
book or anything?

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
I'm thinking about it. I have to find out the
correct direction to go in terms of the type of
research I want to do for the book, and you know,
what I think can make the best contribution at this time.
You know, almost anything would would be a contribution if
it's done carefully enough and you have the right background,

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because we're certainly not going to get the information from
the government.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Well, that's where I'm frustrated. You know, I watched this circus.
That's what it was to me. Congress was a circus
on this UFO disclosure. There was nothing talked about, well,
people being abducted and what they've gone through. And that's
I think should have been another thing. It was right,
should have been equal to all these reports. Come on, people,

(01:16:23):
we have proof that we've been visited before biblical times?
What more do you want? More proof you have? But
you know, again, I've had people on my show, Bruce
that you know, when I talked about Roswell, you know
what they say, that doesn't count. That happen back you know,
in ancient history. What okay, what we're talking about today, today,

(01:16:45):
twenty years from now is ancient history. What more do
you want for proof that we're being visited? The carvings
on the walls, you know, scriptures, you name it, We
talk about this stuff. I mean, it's a again, we
are being visited. Our technology, but we had on this

(01:17:06):
planet going back a thousand years, two thousand, five thousand years,
we didn't have that technology to do that. We've had help.

Speaker 6 (01:17:14):
We have.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
There's your proof right there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
But look at the missing piece of the puzzle that
everyone is ignoring. I can't remember, maybe you do whether
Congressman annapoline A Luna said they were going to interview experiencers.
But if you want, you know, you can acknowledge that
we're not alone. But if you want to find out
why they're here, talk to the experiencers. Talk to the

(01:17:40):
people who have been abducted. They've had some extensive communications
from the ETAs who abducted them that might shed a
lot of light on what their agenda is. Don't ignore them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Yeah, well, you know again, they always say, if we
don't change the way our planet is going, we're not
going to be here. Well, we already know that, but
there's some other motive behind this. It really is. Hey, Bruce,
what is the name of the book? How can they
find your book? And do you have any media where
people can get a hold of you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Well, I'm on Facebook Dominion Lost. Actually you can just
search Bruce Edward Rapuano. But the book is available on Amazon.
I have two books. I have both of the same
titled Dominion Loss as Scientist's own Alien Abduction Encounters and
the bluebook you see on the bottom has a lot

(01:18:36):
of scientific analysis of how I think the implants work,
how the UFO gravity propulsion system works, and a lot
of other very interesting scientific analysis before the viewer, excuse
me for the reader who just wants to read about
my UFO close encounter and abduction experiences. The top book

(01:18:59):
does not have all those scientific studies and and that's
why I have two different books for maybe two different
types of interest in this in this UFO alien abduction phenomenon.
They're both available on Amazon Dominion Loss to Scientists Own
Alien Abduction and cameras well.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Bruce, I want to thank you for coming back on
and maybe not so far distant. You know, we'll get
you back on and we can continue on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Always a great conversation. I really enjoyed it. Gary, thanks
for having me on.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Okay, you have a great weekend that's coming up. Will
you too, sir?

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Take care of yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
I'm trying well. JC. Who's our guests tomorrow? What are
we going to be talking about tomorrow on the show?

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Well, wait for my thing here.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
Mister Paul Bartholomew is going to come on and he's
going to be talking about he's a researcher, investigator, but
he's going to be talking about bigfoot cryptis, UFOs, paranormal when.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
You name it, Gary, it's all going on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Well, it's going to be a good Friday night now
next week, depending if I have to go in and
have surgery, which I'm hoping that the bypass. Who do
we have on? If I If I don't have the surgery, Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Well, Whitley Stripper coming on next week, that's going to
be exciting.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
He's always got some good stuff. And then Nelson.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Asmen is going to be on talking about the spirits
of a kindred Spirits of a Titanic tale, the Titanic.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
The ship that went down. It was unthinkable, right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
That's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
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