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Captain G.S. Steckling is the Curator / Director of the sixty-year-old plus George Adamski Foundation,(SpaceVoyager LLC) one of the oldest enduring worldwide U.F.O organizations in existence. A Universitygraduate, veteran 30-year Airline Pilot (Ret) with more than 23,000 hours of flight time across the globe;also, an amateur astronomer, author, and lecturer, he emphatically shares his extensive UFOexperiences and history. Upgrading his father’s 1981 book We Discovered Alien Bases on the Moon intobook 2 in 1997, and extensively adding to the Adamski book Behind the Flying Saucer Mystery (book 2)republished in 2015. He continues speaking worldwide, while maintaining an extensive UFO archive andresearch program. And he remains resolute on emphasizing the importance of preserving and educatingthe public regarding “accurate” UFO historical information and documentation - accentuating scientific factand reasoning, versus the trending populism towards the substitution of “science fiction, wishful thinking,or vivid imagination, increasingly distorting this field.Steadfast, he remains concentrated on the reality and vital importance of the substantial, undeniablecontributions and benefits of extraterrestrial visitations, and the necessity of our own vibrant space program.


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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 5 (00:41):
The unknown is calling. Welcome to night Dreams, Forbidden Realm.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Coming to you from that great Northwest in the forest
near gig Harbor, Washington. I'm Gary, the host of Night Dreams.
I hope everybody's having a great week. And I tell
you this is getting crazy. I'm not going to talk
about politics, but I'll tell you what in my whole lifetime,
I've never seen a circus. What going on now? You know?

(01:10):
Jock Lay just came out with a statement which a
couple of people wrote articles about, basically talking about well,
ufology has totally changed. Long gone as the investigators would
go out on foot and go investigate the farm lands,
the rural areas where supposedly UFOs crashed or landed. You know,

(01:33):
they don't do that much anymore. They go onto the
internet and they research and they call themselves investigators. What
do you think about that, mister JC.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
It kind of reminds me the one so called research
you had on years ago that was in the Bigfoot
And remember you asked him, well, how many times, how
many hours have you spent out in the woods doing
this or that money? He said, Oh no, I do
it all from the computer.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
And that was a big shock. How can you be
a Bigfoot investigator, investigator anything sitting at a desk just
googling it. That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (02:13):
Yeah, and then you got to rely on the information
that you're getting is legit.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
You're not.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
You know, there's no human fuel to it. There's no
gut reaction, there's no get to see the witnesses reactions
and how they respond and physical evidence and on and on.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well you know that again, like I said, the days
of going out and investigating, and that's what they would do.
They would go out and investigate everything, and they don't
do that anymore, and that's doing so much damage. Well,
tonight we're going to be talking about on the show,
well ets UFOs on the Moon and the oceans. So

(02:49):
here's a little information about a fantastic guest.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Tonight, Captain G. S. Stickling. It's the curator director of
the sixty year old plus Georgia Dempski Foundation Space Voyager LLC,
one of the oldest enduring worldwide UFO organizations and existence.
A university graduate veteran thirty year airline pilot retired with

(03:16):
more than twenty three thousand hours of flight time across
the globe. Also an amateur astronomer, author and lecturer, he
emphatically shares his extensive UFO experiences and history, upgrading his
father's nineteen eighty one book We Discovered Alien Bases on
the Moon into book two in nineteen ninety seven, and

(03:38):
extensively adding to the Dampski book Behind the Flying Saucer
Mystery Book two re published in twenty fifteen. He continues
speaking worldwide while maintaining an extensive UFO archive and research program.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Well, Glenn, welcome back to this show. It's been a
while since you've been on. How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (03:58):
My friend and James, both of you. It's a pleasure
to be back on the air with you, and the
pleasure to interact with your listeners as well, which I
would expect are frevently looking for some tangible, rational and
logical information and basically interaction concerning this field.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, one of the things we're going to talk about
aliens and UFOs and bases on the moon. But why
would aliens be on the Moon.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, first of all, the Moon is the most logical
observation post to keep an eye on or to monitor
the situation that are going on on this planet. Doctor
Carl Sagan himself, he is quoted as saying that the
Moon is the best platform upon which to observe us

(04:57):
and I believe, and I think they're substantial. So photographic
evidence and space program evidence and also archaeological evidence from
civilizations that have traveled through our Solar system in the
past that have established lunar bases and lunar facilities upon

(05:19):
which they can monitor how we are conducting ourselves on
this planet. And that can continues to this day. These
bases have been photographed and examined. If you look in
my latest book, The UFO Reality Can Truth Prevail, It
has a photograph from the Mount Wilson Observatory where you

(05:42):
can literally see the construction extending itself through Gassendi Crater
ninety degree angles. Tubular constructions. These constructions going through the
crater walls and extending through the crater walls and out
the other side. And this is only one example. With
the many type of facilities that are there on the Moon.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's kind of scary. You know, nas is talking about
going back to the Moon, not to land in twenty
twenty six, to circle the Moon again, and then they're
saying that by hopefully by twenty seven land on the
Moon again. And you know, again they always say this stuff,
but it never seems to happen.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Glenn Well, we have to understand several things. First of all,
we have to understand that there's a program called Project
Horizon that Colonel Crusoe spoke about in his book The
Day After Oswell, upon which the Pentagon had allocated funds
and technology to set up a lunar base, and that

(06:49):
started in nineteen fifty seven and had a ten year
window in order to construct a facility with about twenty
personnel by nineteen sixty seven, and all events and purposes
that was successful. They had put that base on the Moon,
and that our astronauts from the Apollo program didn't know

(07:12):
about it until they actually saw some of their own
people there. So from the first Apollo missions on there
was some kind of shall we say, hurt feelings because
they were not really the first Earth people on the Moon.
We had already established ourselves on the Moon. And I

(07:32):
believe that's absolutely correct. We have already working basis on
the Moon, and that there is no need to publicly
go back and stir the pot because there don't want
this to become exposed. And to have current photographs and

(07:52):
current proofs released, that shows that there's a great deal
of discontinuity and hypocrisy on our own space program. And
this extends not only to the Moon, but this program
of misinformation has been very pervasive going to the other

(08:15):
planets in our Solar system and what have you. It's
a two tier system. Since we are officially denying anybody
comes to visit us, and the unbelievable proof I mean
tens of thousands of pictures around the world by every
security and government agency, religious organization, and motion picture films

(08:36):
and actually crafts themselves and pieces of sausage. I mean.
To say that these things don't exist has become total
lunacy to anybody who has an ounce of a desire
to actually read true information. So what happens is by

(08:57):
denying that they carried that over in order to deny
what's out in space and our solar system, because it
wouldn't do to declare that there's life in our solar system,
because the first thing would say is, see, we told
you that's where the UFOs are coming from from the
people who are coming to visit us. So the whole
thing has to be a intertwined program of misinformation and

(09:20):
lies in order to convince the people that it's not
worthy of their attention, and then they take it, and
then they promote and push our attention into deep space
and they say, oh, well, you know, maybe in Alpha
century or better Articular or Wolf three point fifty nine
or whatever, things are different, and we keep finding exoplanets,

(09:44):
you know, and solar systems far beyond ours. But what
happens is is that it also continues to promote the
notion that everything is so far away that it's not
really worthy of our attention, because by the time anything
gets there and get it's back, hundreds of years if
not longer, have passed. And so people say, oh, well,

(10:07):
you know, a big deal that doesn't affect me, what
have you? So it's a very clever contrived composition in
order to manipulate and manifest the whole notion of extraterrestrial intelligence.
And anybody who has any inkling about biochemistry and astro

(10:30):
chemistry and biology knows that the entire sequence of life
exists in space and it rains down on all the
planets throughout the entire universe and cosmos. We get the
same chemical process, the same evolutionary triggers, and so to
believe that we are alone is laughable.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well, you know, it really is. And can you imagine though,
when they're asking us landed on the Moon and they
sew these huge craft. That tells me that our technology,
what we see and what we hear about is basically
like the right brothers. You know it's their first aircraft
because it is to have technology. And the other thing

(11:15):
is a lot of these so called UFOs we were
seeing could be coming back from missions to the Moon
to Earth again.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well I know, Well, the multiple telescopes that we had
over the many decades, we witnessed twenty to thirty mile
long crafts on the Moon in the floor of the
crater Archimedes, literally stretching from rim to rim, or the
entire diameter, which is greater than thirty miles. There were

(11:45):
three of them, and that the astronauts reported as well
the audio channel there they said, oh my god, look
at the size of these crafts and they're huge, enormous
what have you? And when you look at this, this
only makes sense because when you build in a space,
then you have the ability to construct without any of

(12:07):
the gravitational forces, the weight forces that are problematic upon
a planet because we have to fight with so much
energy to oiste payloads into space that contain the small
construction facilities that we put into the International Space Station

(12:27):
and satellites and things like that. When you construct in space,
you don't have that issue. Now, the Moon has had
much stronger gravity than we like to admit. The Newtonian
one sixth gravity composition or mathematics is entirely false, and
it has been proven, and it has been published that

(12:48):
it has been proven to be false because one sixth
would mean that the Moon's neutral gravity point would be
at twenty five thousand miles. It is really, in reality
at nearly forty five thousd and miles. That's in von
Barn's book The History of Space, Rocketry and Science. This
is also in the National Geographic and all over. When

(13:10):
you go and look now, you will see that these
new numbers do not contrive to be what we have
been telling the public. So even though the lunar gravity
is about sixty sixty four percent, it still allows for
significant construction. And also if you're constructing outside the planet

(13:32):
or outside in lunar orbit, you can produce some machines
and spaceships that are far beyond our comprehension. So the
idea is is yet that's even though we have advanced
technically very very quickly, and this is due to the

(13:53):
help of our space neighbors and their influence and their help,
we are still at the very early stages of what
it takes to actually travel space distances safely and efficiently.
We are so used to our science fiction fantasy shows,
star treks, you know, star Wars and things like that.

(14:16):
You know, they have in a way, they have oversimplified
things simply so that people can continue to fantasize without
having to address the very real issues of what it takes.
A civilization that can travels deep space is many, many
thousands of years technologically and sociologically beyond ours, and it

(14:40):
will be nothing that we will be able to do
of any real concentration. You know, I don't think our
civilization even lasts that long. His identalization on this planet
is only hundreds of years. Very few have lasted longer
than that. So so we have to give them credit

(15:01):
for what they have obtained and have developed in order
to travel space. And yet we continue to promote that
they are idiots and morons and lizards and all this other.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
What's wrong with the lizard people.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Because they don't have the mental acuity to be able
to build anything. I mean, look at this on Earth.
What animal has the largest brain? And I let people
think about it for a while. I won't make it
too difficult. It's a sperm whale. It has the largest brain.
Yet even with its largest brain capacity, it still is

(15:44):
relegated to the ocean environment. It doesn't come out of
the ocean and start walking around land and building rocket
ships and space computers and and you know everything else
airplanes and what have you. So it is we are,
we are catastrophically minimalizing, but it truly takes to travel space.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
And then, of course, well Glenn, here's the thing that
you get all these people talking about Grace the Lizard people.
This this, you know, it's a figment of somebody's imagination
that created that if you went back in time. Seriously,
I mean, yes, I know we're being visited, and I

(16:29):
just don't know by who. We don't know by who,
And I don't trust anything I hear from the Congress
on upology of trying to get to the bottom of this,
because is this a circus? It's running around. They're not
saying anything.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
That's absolutely true, because all we have done is perpetrated
innumerable people in this UFO field who are talking total nonsense,
promoting total nonsense, total fantasy. They provide no proof, no substance,

(17:06):
no rationality, no science, no nothing. If it blurts out
of their mouth they believe, then then it should be
accepted verbatim. And it's absolutely garbage, is what it is.
And it continues to be an accelerate to be a
greater extent of nonsense simply because the science fiction subject

(17:31):
continues to be the driving force behind it. Whatever comes
out on the media science fiction. You wait two weeks
and all of a sudden somebody pops out and said, oh, yeah,
you know, I had the same thing happened to me
and blah blah, blah blah. That's why when Valet says,
and I'm not a huge fan of Valet, but the
point is is that when he says, is that no

(17:54):
investigation going on? That's to some extent because there's no
reality to what these people are claiming. And it's a
lot easier to claim it on the Internet, where you
don't have to provide any sustance, whereas that out in
the field, investigators were actually looking for tangible evidence to
support the claim, and nobody wants to do that anymore

(18:18):
because to a great extent there's very little going on.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Oh yeah, and you know another thing, it's like what
you do here is especially with Congress, you know the whistleblowers.
Let's face it, well, I know somebody that knows somebody
or I know somebody who saw it. They don't come
out and say, hey, this is what we I seen
that or this guy furnished proof to me. I was

(18:44):
just told what this guy saw, this guy said this
this guy, and you know what, it's not getting us anywhere.
And you know a lot of these cold so called whistleblowers.
Can I be honest with you, I wouldn't buy a
roll of toilet paper from what they say with it.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, absolutely, And the biggest bait that they use is
they pull some Schmoe out and he says, well, I'm
dying of this and this, so I'm going to tell
you about all the secrets that occurred to me when
I was supposedly an intelligence agent. Or the best story
yet about the guy who has recurrreited in the fifties

(19:21):
and went to Eisenhower's White House but Eisenhower told him,
mind you, the president of the United States and only
five star general tells him, oh, I can't go to
Area fifty one, but I'm going to put you on
my Air Force one, which used to be a Connie
Constellation at that time, and fly you out to Area
fifty one and then you can see it and do
this for yourself. And this guy who's not even a

(19:43):
private I mean, and that people actually buy into this
absolute garbage, and so that there are two things. One,
I'm dying and I'm going to tell you everything I know.
And it never occurs to people that these people are
if they're dying, and they seem to be alive for
a hell of a long time. Before and don't seem

(20:06):
to be gone yet. But if they are, they are
enticed by uh uh uh, which we call promotion of
wealth for their families and things like this that give
them the thought that, well, well, what the heck, I
can say what I want and uh and uh, nobody's

(20:26):
gonna know, and you know everybody will will profit from
it or the next big sucker punch is what I
got to tell you is so unbelievable inflammatory that they're
trying to kill me because of it. That's garbage too,
because if the intelligence community wants you dead, you're dead.
It's I mean, with witnessed a month ago that if

(20:48):
you don't like what somebody has to say, somebody shoots
them and it's over with. So consequently, if anybody makes
this claim that they're you know, they're dodging the intelligence
communities because what they have to say is so explosive
and so revealing that itself is a key indicator that
what they have to say is absolute Bs.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Look, I'm gotta jump back here. Do you feel Roswell
actually happened?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Absolutely? Roswell happened, and the history of Roswell and I've
talked and interacted with many people who had to do
with that, and Georgia Damsky knew several of the scientists
that were at Roswell, and I've talked to other military
people since, and yes, absolutely the craft crashed, it skipped,

(21:35):
it impacted and then flew on and impacted again. When
they got there, they found the bodies of the alien pilots.
One was still partially alive and we shot him dead
on site. So after that there were no live bodies
taken from the crash site. Nobody taken the area. Fifty

(21:57):
one interrogated and put into a jail which wouldn't hold
them to begin with. No aliens walking around with the
American Indians preaching all kinds of this and that these
are all coveyats to the story that people have had
it on there to promote their misinformation and disinformation because
they know that nobody is going to be able to
step forward and disprove them. The government is never going

(22:20):
to release the information of what happened then. And mind you,
that's not only one instance. We have the Cape Girardo
incident that happened in forty one. There are in many
other circumstances in Russia and Mexico and other places where
these crafts have had mechanical problems and for lack of
a better word, crashed. So yes, Roswell was absolutely a

(22:46):
bona fide incident that was very quickly twisted. And this
is once again another method of promoting misinformation. For people
who are familiar with the Robertson Commission nineteen fifty one,
afterwards came out the so called MJ twelve or Majestic
twelve findings. When you read that document, the initial part

(23:11):
of it has some quantitative information, but the remainder of
that document is total propaganda fabrication. And it's a very
once again simple method of using things. Use an existing
thing that people know has some substance to it, and
then use it as a vehicle to push all the

(23:32):
other garbage that you're trying to confuse the people with
attached to it. Roswell's that MJ twelve's that so many
other different reports and studies as well as that has
been because you've had so many zoom magnet saucer. My god,

(23:52):
the list is about a two dozen of all the
so called studies that all the military and intelligence organizations
have conducted. I mean, let's face it, if there was
nothing to it, you make one study, that'd be the
end of it. You wouldn't do it twenty four times. No,
and then close open end to the back end of

(24:14):
that and tell you well, we're not investigator and we're
not looking any longer. Come on, people, do you really
believe that?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well, you know, again, what you hear and what you
know is two different things. You know, I think that
really the government or the black deep state of government
loves it, but all the people spreading all this stuff
because it keeps it so confused and they don't have
to answer it. And actually, I really feel true disclosure

(24:42):
is not going to really happen in my lifetime.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
No, it will never happen. And I actually had an
intelligence officer say to us already in the late seventies,
he said, we don't need to go out with men
in black anymore or any of these agencies to try
to tim date witnesses and to deny things, because frankly,
the UFO community is working over time internally to totally

(25:11):
screw it all up. When I turn on the television
and I look at the History Channel or some of
these other programs by certain producers and we all know
them by name. They are constantly bombarding the people with
garbage simply because they've got to have something to put

(25:32):
on the program.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
No otherwise it makes some money.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Well, well, of course that you've got to run a
program to make money. And that's the underlying emphasis. To
make money, not to educate people, not to provide any truth,
not to provide any progressive statements. No, they don't want
any of that. It's the Mullah, the narrow, and.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
That's what has come down to. Now question how long
did it take you to write your last book?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
My last book was on a accumulation of my entire
lifetime in this particular field, and that of my parents
and family, and to some extent Georgia Damski as well.
And so it is a chronological history of the many
things that we did and experienced, my father going before

(26:23):
twenty two scientists and NASSA, before major freemen at the Pentagon,
and the British House of Lords with Lord Clankarte, and
in Voice of America all over the world Japanese National television.
I mean, when I started to write the book, I
started to remember things that I had put on the
shelf for a long time. But I've included there the

(26:46):
interviews with scientists that I've had, the interaction with some
of these government officials and agencies, and I will say
that there is a number of them that sincerely would
like to release information and would sincerely like to educate
the people. But they're being manipulated just the same as

(27:07):
we are. The only difference is for them that manipulation
is much closer to the chest. And so I think
the first part of the book is eye opening as
far as what is actually going on in the UFO
field worldwide up to date. And then the second part
of the book, it's called reality Check. This deals with

(27:31):
a chronology of UFO sightings going back several thousands of years.
It deals with the Moon situation, the gravity, the fact
that we have found archaeological evidence and current evidence not
only in the Moon but on Mars as well. It
is also addresses the the what's the best word to say,

(27:57):
the misinformation behind so called abductions and cattle mutilations. I mean,
all of these are being manipulated in order to excite
the imaginary processes of the people who want to truly
believe that somebody is coming here and that your DNA

(28:19):
is in blood is so special it is as common
as slurpees at seven eleven. Yeah, well, how manywhere?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I always look at this, if etser coming down to
get DNA, how many millions of times do they have
to abduct people to get their DNA? If they're so
far technically advanced, they would only have to do it
a couple times and they would have the whole, you know,
everything they need. But my question to you is how
many weeks, months, years did it take you write your book?

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Oh? It took me once I sat down two years
to write the book. And then I'm happy to say
that the book has been picked up by publishers in Italy, Spain,
France and hopefully in the Far East. Here in the
near future, it is out in those languages, along with

(29:11):
as you mentioned in your promo, the book Behind the
Flying Saucer Mystery too. I redid that included all the
newspaper archives from the Danski world tours and all the
sightings that happened and were published in the papers of
the many different countries he went to a following his
world tour, and all of that brought that up to

(29:35):
current event and speed. And so I'm happy to say
that these publications are seeing a revival, not in the US.
In the United States, they don't want anything to do
with that. If I write something completely kooky, you know,
like a certain writer from Australia, If I write total fantasy,

(29:57):
then that happy to wrap themselves around. But when you
start providing answers and providing technical data and proof, then
here in the US they don't want any part of that.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
But you know, here in the US, I have had
so many guests on that wrote books on you apology right,
and I'll ask them how long did it take you?
I've had everything from the weekend to maybe a week
or two. How can anybody write a book in a
weekend or a week or two unless they use the

(30:34):
whole AI system to do it, they can't do it. It's impossible.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Well, even if they had ghostwriters, they can do it.
I remember listening to some UFO personalities saying, well, I
have now written my twenty fourth book, and I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, it's up to thirty five.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Now, Oh, it's up to thirty five now, sorry about that.
You know, things happen quickly. But the idea is that
if you once again nothing is based upon personal experience.
Everything is hearsay, everything is in you window, everything is
third or fourth party, uh, you know, promoted, it's it's

(31:15):
it's a sham.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I mean it is, but you know what, I don't
want to interrupt you, but we need to take this break.
We'll be back with Glenn in about three and a
half minutes. So dope, go towhere, we'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
There's a very loud squeal in your microphone.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
Oh oh oh.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Everybody was fifty.

Speaker 7 (32:03):
Those gets the fastest lighting.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
In fact, it was a lead fat But they are export.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Timing from China town.

Speaker 7 (32:23):
They were jumping, they were jumping them down.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
It's a fun and checking can never by any.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Bon diving into the headlines have the mysterious and unexplained.
This is the unseen news with guide ticker, where the
extraordinary is just the beginning. Unidentified flying objects continue to

(32:53):
make headlines around the world. Here's a quick roundup of
three countries reporting strange sightings. Is just the past week.
In the United States, a former Air Force fighter pilot
says he nearly collided where a glowing rectangular object at
thirty thousand feet over Wyoming. The craft had no wings,

(33:14):
no exhaust had moved in ways that defied known aircraft behavior. Meanwhile,
in Washington, DC, a star shaped anomaly appeared on weather radar,
sparking brief panic and conspiracy chatter. Officials later attributed it
to a likely radar glitch, but some remain unconvinced. Over

(33:36):
in Perth, Australia, hundreds of witnesses spotted a bright, fast
moving object zigzagging across the night sky. Social media lit
up with videos showing a LFE that changed direction sharply,
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Speaker 1 (36:50):
Why her, Glenn, that a man just divorced his wife
because she took his radio and hit it for he
couldn't listen to the show anymore. Well, you know, let's
get down to well, also, underwater basis. There's so much
talk about underwater basis. What's your take on that one, Glenn.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
There are several locations around the planet where there are
underwater facilities. These are not areas which are permanently occupied
and populated. These are facilities upon which these crafts can
come and go in a more safe environment that is

(37:30):
not so saturated by the type of air traffic control,
radar environment, space command tracking, and things like that. That's
part of it. The other part of it is that
they are openly collecting scientific geophysical data on our planet,
and in order to get good data, they go to

(37:52):
the deepest parts of the ocean where the mantle pieces
between the many different continents are meeting and then being
pushed under and what have you. You have a fracture zones,
earthquake zones, a volcanic activity that pushes up from that.
This all indicates scientific data that is collected in order

(38:15):
to determine the state of health of the planet. Another
way of this is people have reported outside of Mexico
City the volcano what they call Popo because it has
a longer name than that that I can't pronounce. But
they see craft go fly inside the volcano. They are
immune to any of the destructive forces and then can

(38:38):
go in and determine what's going on on our planet.
And they have determined, this comes directly from them, that
our planet is in a downward cycle, a degeneration cycle.
This is not only on our planet, but this is
solar systemic. This is happening with our sun as well,
and so they are trying to determine the longevity and

(39:01):
the health of the conditions of the planets within the
system and how long this solar system will continue to function.
And so yes, they have underwater facilities, but so do we.
We have several naval facilities that have been constructed underwater,
one right off the California coast here in about five

(39:23):
hundred feet of water. And so you know, they're not
the only ones who are using the depths of the
ocean in order to give them some respite and some
camouflaging because of the aggressive nature of who we are
on this planet. And so yes, between lunar bases, underground bases,

(39:46):
underwater bases, there are facilities throughout the planet, and they
are not always all active, and the amount of activity
changes over time depending on there can as well. You know,
they people tend to forget that they got things to
do too. They have lives, they have things to learn,

(40:08):
science and religion to learn, and they have a purpose
for in existence and not just to be there to
babysit us. We think we're so important that anybody is
coming here in order to take care of us or
save us from ourselves. And while they are willing to
help us, they are not willing to force us to

(40:31):
make the changes that we need to make. If that
doesn't come internally, then too bad.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
The other thing that I just want to jump in
on that because what you said, here's my feeling, and
I get a lot of people mad at me every
time I say this. I'll get a couple hundred emails
by tomorrow for saying this again. Here's my point is,
look at humans. We have been fighting NonStop killing each
other from the get go, and it hasn't changed. Now.

(41:02):
I can't believe just because somebody's way more intelligence, they
could still have that same trait. So I can't believe
every et it comes and knocks on our door are
friendly and not looking for good.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Well, well, wait a minute, here, you have to also
look at something else. As I mentioned before, in order
to come here, you need to be at least four
or five thousand years in in advance of our technological development.
That also means that, even if it's not congruent to
the acceleration of science, sociological development also has to at

(41:42):
a certain point mime or parallel that development, because if
it doesn't, they destroy themselves. And obviously they have it.
Whereas we have walked the edge of nuclear destruction several
times because of our stupidity and arrogance and aggressiveness. So
since they have been a lot longer around and have

(42:03):
successfully traveled not only this system but all over the
place in the cosmos and collected data and research and
learn things that interacted with other people, this means that
you start to shed your barbarianism. Right. We are no
longer living in the Amazon jungle clumbing on edges each

(42:25):
other over the head and eating each other as cannibals
as a certain period of time.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
The wait a minute, they did that in Washington, DC.
I have to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Well, that's figuratively, that's true too. Maybe it would be
better if they did it, you know, in actuality, because
then things would get done at a little different pace.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah. Yeah, But again, if you have advanced with ten
thousand years, four thousand, or one hundred thousand years of advance,
could they not look at some time one of those
races could look at us, come down here and just
like a you know, AI is really scary because it
makes decisions now because I was talking to my doctor,

(43:07):
it makes a decision if you're going to get treatment
to keep you alive or not. By the insurance companies
they use that they take your age, in your condition,
and how long you're going to live, and they make
that decision if you're going to get that operation or
what that treatment you need. Again, if with these ets,
could they not look at us as nothing more than insects,

(43:29):
and that they look at what we're doing is get
self destructive and maybe push that little button and do
it for us.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Absolutely not. First of all, the only reason that you
have the AI situation you have here, or let's face it,
the only reason that you have the type of disparity
on this planet that doesn't exist on others is because
you are totally encompassed within the capitalistic profit system. And
I'm not promoting socialism or communism, but what I'm saying

(43:59):
is when you put a monetary value to everything, down
to the butterfly that flies around or what have you,
then we are determining something's worth based upon a perceived profitability.
And that is our immense mistake, because if somebody decides

(44:21):
that your life isn't worth anything because you're not providing
me with a profit, then off you go. That's the
Canadian health system. I have a my wife's relative. She
died of cancer. And the Canadian health system, whom the
politics promotes and we won't say their names because we
just saw them on CNN, who promotes such a wonderful system,

(44:43):
is all bunk. They basically told her, well, you have
three options. Either take the treatment we gave you, but
it won't help you. Two, you can go to another
country like the US and get a better system, but
it's all out of your pocket. Or you can just
do the decency of an expiring after a certain amount
of time so it doesn't cost us anything. And she

(45:05):
ended and she ended up dying after a year because
of it. The reality of what things are versus the
pure imaginative twisting that is being promoted on the American
public is beyond comparison. But to go back to this,
they the more you travel, the more you see the immense,

(45:30):
amazing accomplishment and overall reach of the creative intelligence, god,
whatever you want to call it, that that has constructed
what has, what is, what exists. So they don't believe
in making biases or being discriminatory. For them, the idea

(45:55):
of making a decision on who is an aunt and
who isn't, or who is worth keeping and who isn't
is so outside the realm of their own thinking. They
would They wouldn't even think of that. It is total nonsense.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
But they don't help us either.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Looking help us all the time. They have helped us
out of two, if not three, nuclear conflicts. They have
helped us technologically to reach to the off our planet.
They have helped us and interacted with organizations in order
for the betterment of societies on our world. The only

(46:34):
difference is they don't come to force it upon you.
Nothing can be accomplished by an outside force forcing it
upon you. That's the only time that people on this
planet would ever finally drop their particular biases and discriminatory
practices to unify against an outside first. They do that,

(46:58):
but they would never do that in order to promote
a betterment within their own world. But I agree with you,
you let not confuse that.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Well, what we need is that movie. It was made,
I think it's fifty six or in the mid fifties,
you know, the day that there's stood still. We need
a craft to come down and turn off all the
electricity worldwide and then do a speech. If you don't
do this, you're not going to exist anymore.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
No, that's not was the emphasis of the movie. First
of all, that movie was in nineteen fifty one, fifty
two and two. They said they came down and said,
here are the potential consequences of your irresponsible actions. What
you do on your planet is your business. But if

(47:46):
you take your aggressive tendencies out into space to affect
our peaceful societies, then that's something else. Yeah, So that
was that was not the emphasis of that movie. That
movie was quite different in reality. Part of that movie
actually happened. In fact, one of these craft landed in
the base, a base in Alaska, and the four top

(48:08):
leaders at that time all flew there to interact, and
that was that was Roosevelt, Stalin, de Gaulle, and Churchill.
And so they have come amongst us numerous times. They
came to us during Eisenhower's administration. The Damsky took him

(48:29):
out to the air base in California where the craft
was sitting on the tarmac. He did the same thing
with Jack Kennedy in sixty two. So to say that
these people haven't come to help us is the mist
but the misstatement of the year.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Okay, then I eat crow. But here's the thing too,
we haven't listened to what they had to say then
their bible.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Okay, all right, so let me ask you a question.
You are sitting at home, You're having a nice barbecue
in the backyard, and everything is peaceful. The people you
invite of are having a good time. Next door to you.
You hear them yelling and screaming, throwing plates at each other,
shooting at each other, and what have you. Are you
going to go over there and knock on the door.

(49:13):
Are you going to say hell with that? I'm gonna
wait until those people actually wake up or learn to
behave differently. But I'm not gonna go over there and
impose myself upon people who are not willing to make
any adjustment.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Well, the reason I'm not going to go knock on
their doors, I'm scared they're gonna shoot me.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Well, well, that has already potentially happened here as well.
We have shot at them with missiles, with guns. We
you know, we have not always been successful, but we
have shot a couple of them down, and they there
was one incident where there was a cruiser or destroyer.
The bottom of the saucer has a lens in it

(49:57):
that you can look through and when and it's like
a flyer or an iris of an old camera that
closes and opens, and when you open it, the spacecraft
becomes vulnerable because they have to nullify the force field
system around that. And ordered them to look out, and
we shot a shell up in there and we killed everybody,

(50:19):
and the thing dropped into the water. Another one of
these crafts came along, went into the water with a
magnetic elevator, picked it up. Both of them flew out
of the ocean, and it carried it off into space.
If it would have been us, we would have destroyed
everything and everybody in sight. They could have done that,
but they don't do that. And that's hard for people
to understand because we have been taught purposely that everything

(50:43):
that comes from space is horrific, monsteric, or aggressive. Every
sci fi other than the day of the airstra still,
every sci fi program is exactly what they're doing. They're
bombarding the people's minds and brain waves with this so
that you don't go and interact with the craft of

(51:04):
at lands that you don't have peaceful interactions with the
occupants of they come out because they know our governments
and intelligence communities, militaries know they can't control that, but
they can control your fear meter. And if they scare
you out of your mind, then you will never approach

(51:25):
anything of beneficial interaction.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Well, what's your take if one landed in LA for example,
a craft, and what do you think would happen? How
would the public respond, and how would the government respond.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Well, remember we had the forty two incident what's called
the Battle of La which they had the craft fly
over and there were spotlights on it and we were
raining artillery shelves upon it because we are all worried
that the Japanese were going to come and attack the
mainland of the West coast of the United States. But
that was just a fleeting incident because there were so

(52:04):
many photographs. In my book, I have the Project Blue
Book release of photographs from the Mount Palomart telescope in
nineteen forty nine over a period of one week where
the astronomical people up there, the staff took pictures of
these crafts flying by information and all sorts of things

(52:27):
there and they're amazing photographs. And you know where I
found those photographs. I found those released in Europe out
in the United States of America. So if we believe
that this is a free country with a free press.
You are totally mistaken. And so consequently, if something would land,
what would you think would first happen? Just like in

(52:49):
the day of the Aarsta, still the military would come
and quarantine the area, not for them coming to be
with us. We're worried about our own people going to
be with them because they can no longer be influenced
and told how to think and what to think, and
so it us.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I still think it would be mass panic because they've
been brainwashed out. They've been brainwashed from all these podcasts
saying that all ET's are bad and that you know,
all the garbage has spread. I think the average person,
you know who would freak out. I know I would.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah, I wouldn't freak out. I'm waiting for it. In fact,
I got a friend of mine who's off world right now,
and I keep wondering if he's going to send his
friends by so I can have a little interaction or
a little fly by. But anyway, the idea here is
that yes, there would be panic, because that's what we
have programmed the people to be. And that's why. Here's
another reason, that was why they don't come and openly

(53:50):
interact with us because they know that we cannot. We
are not mentally at a point where we can handle
the situation. So many people say, oh, well, why don't
they just come and why don't they just reveal themselves?
And we are so intellectual now and we can handle anything.
And the reality is we can't handle a damn thing.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
No, we can't. We're still cheap. And I use the
word sheep because that's what humans are. You know, our
time is winding down. Do you have a website you
want to share or anything?

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Yeah, I have the website of a dam Ski Adamski
Foundation on one word dot com. If anybody is truly
interested in what we have to stay and I have
to stand for. If you go to my name Glenn
Steckling on YouTube under the channel, you will find about
fifteen videos which include the motion picture films of a

(54:48):
damn Ski shown before our government agencies, as Colonel Freeman said,
some of the best he'd ever seen in civilian hands,
and a number of programs, including one dealing with the
book and my father's work in the field and what
have you. So you can find that all there, and
let me remind the people quickly. When you speak about
spacecraft that look cubic rectangular triangle, this is our stuff.

(55:13):
This is not extraterrestrial. Extraterrestrial crafts are either cigar shaped
or saucer shaped, and that is due to the propulsion
system that allows them to travel faster than the speed
of light by many times over. Anything that is hard
edged or has protrusions or any type of projections on

(55:33):
the hull, that is not them. That is US and
has always been US. At about sixty five percent of
what is reported these days is all our craft.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Most likely you're right on that one again, your latest book,
and then I'm going to say you have a great weekend.
It's coming up.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Okay, you can find the UFO Reality Can Truth Prevail.
It's on eBay, It's on Amazon, the publishers blurb dot com.
You can get it there in either hardcover or soft cover.
That is probably one of the most reasonable prices because
the publisher sets that price. We also have one of
the books there for Amazon, but Amazon Jack's the price

(56:16):
so high that it has to be completely different listing.
So when you go in there you'll see three listings. Obviously,
take the most reasonable priced one and then don't hand
over more money to Amazon's yacht owner than it has
to be. So you can find that there and also
on a booksape dot com and it's three hundred and

(56:39):
thirty pages filled with authentic, verified pictures, information, letters to
the government, their answers. If you want something that gives
you truth, you'll find it there.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Well, Glenn, thank you so much for coming on short notice.
And I really appreciate you being back on, and we'll
have to get you back on in near future.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
We will always a pleasure to be with you guys
and to speak about this subject in a reasonable manner
and to give people some something to truly find some
truth and foundation about. And I look forward to doing
it again. And you take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
You too, my friend. You take care Okay, bye bye bye?
Well JC, Who do we have coming up on the
next week?

Speaker 6 (57:29):
Next week, we have mister Timothy Phillips coming on. He
is the former director of a ro O and he
is going to be a fascinating guest.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah, and anybody else next week or is that it?

Speaker 6 (57:43):
That's the only show we have for next week. But
followed up the last week of October on the Thursday,
the thirtieth, we have mister Joe Clifford coming on talking
about shadow people. And then on Halloween rolling out the month,
Friday the thirty first, we have Thomas Jane coming.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
On, Actor Thomas Jane.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
Yeah, actor Thomas Jane's always a great guest when he's on,
followed up by mister Ron Fitzgerald telling us listen, he's
gonna tell us some scary vampire stories. And there's a
lot of them out there.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
You know a little bit about Ron is he's an
actor too. He's played in a lot of horror movies.
And again you know he's a magician too, and he
has that flaming casket where he puts a beautiful girl
into it, sets it on fire. I've been trying to
get my producer to do it, but he won't do it.
And he's gonna tell us a lot of scary Halloween stories.

(58:37):
So we again Thomas Jane, the actor, you know, the Punisher,
Deep bluecy and on and on in movies and TV shows.
It's going to be a great show on the thirty
first of October. And I hope you all tune in
again the show you catch us on, well, your favorite

(58:57):
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Eastern and then Friday you'll catch us at seven pm
Pacific time and ten pm Eastern Time on Fridays. So
I hope everybody has a good one and anything you
want to say to the listeners before we go, bye bye.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
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