Ep. 18 - Chaos at the Border, Misplaced Redistricting Complaints, Nicki Minaj vs the Left

Chaos at the Border, Misplaced Redistricting Complaints, Nicki Minaj vs the Left

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happens to all of us. Sothat's where we're at Episode eighteen. We
don't get right into it. Segmentone, we are actually going to talk
about conservatives favorite topic to talk about. Other than how Joe Biden is failing
us as a president. The secondfavorite topic is the border, of course,
and now we're not talking necessarily abouta border wall, but the influx

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of immigration that is happening just outsideof del Rio down in Texas. For
those of you who do not knowDel Rio is a border city. I
didn't know del Rio was a place, did you know that hard? I
knew del Rio was a place,and and I've been I've been saying this
this this same topic. Man.They they act like they haven't been crossing

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here forever, right, right,So what's actually going on in Del Rio
is that right now, there arethousands of Haitian migrants as they're calling them.
Now. I'm not sure how youknow that if they're undocumented and it
have not been vetted, that areactually taking refuge under the International Bridge,
and in the last couple of weeksthere's actually been an influx of about twelve

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thousand migrants that cause the mayor ofDel Rio to declare a state of emergency
the friday before we're recording this podcast. Before we get into uh migration and
and and how migration policy impacts USas a nation, I think it's really
interesting to consider. H wait aminute, I got noise. Sorry about

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that. Um, it's interesting toconsider that this port of entry as it
is is actually controlled by one city. That's an interesting concept right up,
to think that one city is nowplaced in control of immigration into the United
States. But here here's my question. How did twelve thousand human beings know

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to go to this one specific spotto get into the country the question?
And then at that point you labelthem as as a Haitian, which they
may be. I don't know thepath or trajectory they actually came through.
This may be the path that hatethem saying, I don't know how to

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how it works. But my pointis it's twelve thousand people knew to come
to this one specific spot. Whyis it? Why Why aren't we looking
at the fact that twelve thousand peopleknow to come here to try to get
through the border, and that's that'sa small army. You have twelve thousand
people, that's a small army.How would why aren't we looking at the

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fact that they know how to getthere? Well, there are some people
that would argue that it is umand someone that he said this to me
on Twitter, Uh, it's it'salmost inhumane to argue against people moving from
one place to another for a betterlife. And and and I would say
that, you know, I thinkthat person would answer where they looked at

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a map and that was the easiestway to get here. But that doesn't
really make too much sense for twelvethousand people to know that this one place
was the best part of entry.Um. And you know, that really
goes to our larger question of theBiden administration. Um and what has been
a question for any administration in themodern era? Would it be the Barack

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Obama administration, the Trump administration?How do we deal with immigration policy?
For me, I look at immigrationpolicy as a utilitarian, constructed concept.
Right, We're trying to do themost good for the most people. Us
as humans, we want to helpeveryone, but at a certain extent,

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you know, at a certain point, I should say, we have to
consider what America's going through. Right. We're in a global pandemic where you
know, there's vaccine mandates that we'lltalk about later. Um, you got
to wear a mask everywhere. Weare in a terrorism situation with the failure
of Afghanistan and all that stuff overthere, and and and what the left

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would even say, we have domesticterrorism as well. Um, and then
we're in a financial fallout from thatpandemic. You know, when we talk
about people coming into this country,we need to be aware of all those
things and balance those things out,right, But what do we But here's
my question, though, do wedo? Are we the ones that actually

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need to be looking at this oris this the job of our administration and
our elected officials. So if ourelected officials as their job, this should
be I don't know, I don'ta priority number will say two or three,
will say top, top five,top top border security and immigration for

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sure, for sure. So sowhen you when you look at if this
isn't one of your top five priorities, regardless of what your priorities were when
you got in the office, whyaren't you addressing this. So yeah,
yeah, yeah, if you're failingat this, because you're failing because this,
they're gonna try to blow this upbecause it's Haitian and the imagery and

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all those type of things, andwe can get into that, but the
imagery of it, of it's theHaitians coming across at twelve thousand of pop
now waiting at the border, asopposed to it's been a consistent thirty five
hundred Hispanics since I don't know,early this year, just because I've been
told not to put dates on things. So yeah, yeah, it's been

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it's been a consistent flow of hispanicAnd you can lift the numbers up as
you like, but it's been consistentflow of Hispanics. But now of a
sudden there's twelve thousand waiting at theborder. It's like, oh, you're
waiting at the wall. They're waitingto come in. But the border security
as a whole has been terrible thisentire time, and why isn't that a

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bigger issue? And I don't disagreethere, Listen, I think with a
lot of things. Uh. Ihave a reporter a friend that used to
talk about how we get news inthis country, and it used to be
you know, imagine the wall andsomeone standing on the top of the wall
and looking over the wall and saying, Okay, I'm gonna talk about that.
Um. Now, with social mediaand us having all these platforms like

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podcasts and video on our phone,now things get thrown over the wall,
right. So I actually think whenyou ask a question of why are we
just talking about it now, Ithink it's because of our access to social
media and because of the pandemic,it made us a little bit closer to
that. I think the imagery,as you spoke of earlier, is why
we're talking about this issue now.And you know, when I saw it,

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I was like, every American shouldbe disturbed by this one, because
you know, immigration, for whateverreason, illegally or undocumented or unvetted,
is a assault on all laws ofour land. And if you don't agree
with that, you know you're lookingat twelve thousand people crossing a body of

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water. That is a perilous anddangerous situation. So either you care about
the laws of the land or youcare about these people's safety, you know
we have to put a stop tothis at some point for one of those
two reasons, And to your point, though harder. I think the reason
that we are talking about it nowis because we actually did see that imagery.

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America looked at that end. Everyonefelt something, whether you felt like
we need to open these borders andwe need to let everyone in, or
we need to figure out how tostop this immigration, how to stop the
demand side of it, which isa point I bring up with conservatives all
the time about, you know,persecuting the people who are going to employ
these individuals once they come here,because no one's coming to America if they

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don't think they can find a job, if they can't take care of their
families. We need to be persecutingthe people just as much as we're seeing
people back to the country that comefrom We also need to persecuting the people
that are employing these individuals so thatwe lower the demand, so people don't
think they could just come through delRio and get a job and be able
to take care of their families withnot going through the proper process. So

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I mean that that's where I'm kindof looking at this imagery. I mean,
what did this invoke for you whenyou saw those images? No,
And and that's the point, isyou what you're saying there's you're saying there's
nobody wants to work. But however, you're letting in another the x amount
of thousands of people per week thatneed jobs in order to sustain life as

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opposed to so then you're saying,hey, at the same time, you
guys need to raise your minimum wage. But raising minimum wage while you're letting
in more people mathematically just doesn't makesense, no, because there's all it's
gonna be somebody to take those jobs. That that goes to the economic impacts
of immigration. Um. You know, I will say, you know,

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just on like a personal level,Um, I'm a darker skin African American
heartpert. I don't know if youknew that. I'm I'm like, I'm
I'm I'm I'm like brown, rightright, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm brown. I'm brown, rightright, Okay, all right, he's
taking a shot. But I definitely, I'll say, had a more emotional

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um reaction to those individuals crossing uhthat body of water when when those individuals
meling in or how they look umwas more similar to mine. And it
really struck a chord with me andI really again had to go back to
the utilitarian argument of I want todo the most good for the most people,

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right, I don't know how muchgood is going to be done for
those individuals by coming here now,mind you, they are reportedly coming from
Haiti. Haiti is going through alot right now. So I do want
those people to be able to getprosperity and safety for their family. But
here's here's my question though, isthis an attempt to invoke emotional response for

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immigrants as a whole in general.And it's like, it's like, because
you've had an influx of hispanients,I think we can say that the data
shows there's influence of the Spanish.Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that
later in the show. Actually,right, so you have Asian influx of
Asian and bills and laws in placefor the Asian community, and then so

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now it's like you have the plightof the Haitians and not saying that this
is not I'm not saying in thesense of this is not a real situation
for those that are going through it. That's not at all what I'm saying.
I'm a bit of how certain storiesare painted in the media, and
I guess us and just the perceptionof it in general, right, and

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how it plays so is thisn't possiblyan attempt to vote some sympathy for the
immigrant community as a whole in general, and that is that when in there,
that's trying to that people are tryingto push in there, and you
know, you know, to behonest with you, I think it would
be a result of that. Idon't know, but it was necessarily the

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intent. I don't think any administrationwants those images out of distressed migration.
Um. But what I will sayis that it definitely worked for me.
I was definitely more concerned. Um. But you know, overall, I

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think that you said something earlier aboutthis being an American problem, and you
know, whether we're talking about Afghanistan, whether we're talking about Mexico, whether
talking about Haiti, America can't bethe lifeboat for everyone. And we can't
do it alone. Right, Sowe're gonna if we're gonna try to stop

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you know, illegal immigration, weneed to be being able to try to
create prosperity in other places so peopledon't have to feel they need to illegally
cross a body of water, puttingtheir families in danger to get that prosperity
and that's not something American can doin its own. We're gonna need partners
to be able to do that.And for me, I think looking at

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that, you know, image imagerywas more of the thing that I ended
up thinking about when I got intomy utilitarian bag of Okay, I want
to do the most good for mostpeople. How do I do that?
I don't think open boards is another way to do that. Um.
I don't think arbitrarily letting everyone hereinto the country is doing that. But
I will say that, you know, the gathering in del Rio, it's

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something that we all should be concernedabout for various reasons, um. And
and it's something we need to bediligent about it. And and this is
another moment where you can say,all right, COVID, the economy,
all these things at now, immigration, um, the Biden administration has a
lot of work to do there.So now, I mean, I think
that's kind of where my thoughts ondel Rio kind of end. Yeah.

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Yeah, if they want to doit, they probably don't even want to
really do it for real. Yeah, Yeah, it might not be a
priority. I think maybe bashing,bashing black celebrities maybe the priority of the
Biden administration and hopefully we we needa distraction. We need to distract you

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somehow, some way, So sohere you go, There you go.
So don't be distracted by del Rio. Understand that immigration policy is why this
is happening, and as Americans,we all need to be up to date
on what our immigration policy is andreally be thinking critically about is it working.
Because I think what we're seeing inTexas right now proves that whatever immigration

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political podcast. This is the Knapepisode eighteen, not another political podcasts.
You are in the Knap segment too. We're still here, harper Man.
What did the Browns played today?Did we get away in today? Absolutely?

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The Browns played today and we werehu. Yes, I'm glad you
said that they finally ran the balllike they were supposed to. I'm glad
that happened. I'm with that.Good good job to throw the Browns in
a random episode. But no,no, no, no, no,
one day we should actually talk aboutsports. I mean, um, but
something I saw today was just howmany people went out tailgating. And you

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know, in Cleveland we have thisthing called the Cleveland Unicipal Lot. And
when I tell you the Cleveland UnicipalLot was wall to wall people, you
would have thought this was pre COVID. How many people were out there,
how many people responded to the Brown'shome opener. The community loted sacred ground,
The community lot is sacred ground.COVID does not exist at the Brown's

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Home home opener. And for whatI saw, there were actually a lot
of brown people there. H Soyou know, in this segment, we're
actually gonna talk about something else thatbrown people in particular need to be responding
to. And that's the US Censusfor those of you who do not know
the sense, it is conducted everyten years. It contributes to everything about
how many resources coming in your community, what type of support you get from

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the government. But the last onethat we don't talk about that often is
actually redistricting. And redistricting is aprocess that's going on across the country.
If you're a leftist Democrat, youare essentially saying that redistricting is a racist
process. You're saying that it issplitting up communities that we are providing underrepresentation.

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Uh. What I would argue assomeone who's following these things, someone
who actually worked to get responses forthe US Census, is that the responses
to the US Census actually directly affectand deal with the problem that most of
the country or or or Democrats inparticular, are bringing up right now.

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So I wanted to talk about brieflywhat the response rate for the US Census
was last year was and how that'saffecting us now. Very very very fifty
thousand view in the county we livein, Cayahauga, the response rate was
about fifty six percent. That's uh, just a little bit over one out

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of two people. In Cleveland,the figure was only fifty percent, so
that's exactly one out of two people. And in black suburbs like East Cleveland,
the response rate was even lower,somewhere in the thirties or forty depending
on what you're asking about. Now, why is that important? Well,
essentially, districts are drawn based uponhow many people live in those districts.

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What we're looking at in Ohio inparticular, is that districts are either being
cracked or packed. If you're listeningto some of the historical civil rights organizations,
and what they're saying is that they'reeither splitting up communities or packing all
communities in one place so that theydilute the voting power of African Americans.

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What I am arguing is that whenAfrican Americans in particular are responding at a
rate and we'll just use Cleveland aboutfifty percent, we're always going to be
underrepresent underrepresented. And this goes tosomething we talk about all the time on
the NAP about people profiting off ourpain, people using our causes for their

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own political gain, and it's justreally disappointing that we're not talking about Okay,
registering looks like this because of underresponse rates from African Americans in particular
in communities that resulted in what thesedistricts going to be redrawn at so hard.

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What do you think did did yourespond to the census and what do
you think about you know, thedistrict lines being drawn as they are and
supposedly undercounting or underrepresenting particular communities.Well, I think it's more effect of
having an accurate account. And nowthe motives behind having an accurate account now

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that you know, because remember thecensus this year failed During COVID, you
had you had you had everyone basicallyat home. Yeah, everyone at home,
so when you were doing you canmail your senses in. You're not
doing nothing else. Everybody's on quarantine. You got one of the most accurate
accounts probably in history, because youhave everyone. You have everyone at home,
so you have the census and youhave the voting. That's why you

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ended up with more people voting thanyou thought you had because you had every
you have more people voting in general. I mean, there's some other stuff,
but I'm not even going into thevoting thing. But the sense of
it's just the fact that you havemore people, you have more accurate account.
So now that you have a moreaccurate account, you can carve out
districts. Now you can see whereeverybody. Now you can see where everybody's

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at, you can see where evenget an accurate demographic data and say,
okay, well, now it goesto intent and motive for land development.
It goes to intent and motive forwhenever political connection need to be made or
have been made, or agreements andthose type of things. And that's the

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problem with the census in the senseof they provide funding as well. So
the good coin is that they providefunding for those schools that need it,
because now you know that they needed, You know that there's more African Americans
in this particular community because you knowwhat they needed, as opposed to I
know it's African Americans in this community, so I can move them out and

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take over the community. So that'swhy that's what I mean. But it
goes to intense So that's the onlyonly thing that's the good and the bad
part about having an accurate account ofthe people that's in those specific communities and
areas. That's when you fall intogentification. Yeah, I don't disagree there.
I think that when I think abouthaving an accurate account, I I

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just argue that if only one outof every two people are responding, how
accurate it is that account Relatively.I'll give you that the response rates have
probably went up because people are arearound and voting. But I mean,
even if you look at voting insome of the last elections we've had here,

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uh, you know, we hadseventeen percent of people show up in
this Clevelandnicipal election. Voting but votinga census are different though, because the
voting is still an action item.Census isn't really an action item. Census
is sending something in the mail ornot even having to leave your house in
some cases, because some people thatare doing doing a census, you know,

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I was one of those people actuallydoing that. But I would say
the same thing about voting though,like you can if someone puts an apps
andtee request in your hand and itcan come to your mailbox, the same.
But the point I think you're tryingto make it a sense of urgency
right when the census comes around everyten years. I don't think particularly African

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Americans thinks about this. Their urgencyof responding to that right, like we
don't think about Okay, if Idon't respond to this census, if I
don't get my entire community respond tothis census, we may lose a minority
repress in that district. You know. And and I think the Ohio constitution
as they've been changing it now,I mean, in particular, or you

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can't split up Kaiha County more thanyou could draw two lines split it up
three ways. You can't split upcities like Cincinnati in Cleveland. But what
ends up ended up happening, though, is even though they put those kind
of rails on how these districts arebeing redrawn, the fact remains that when

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we're not responding in the way weneed to, you know, that allows
them to say, all right,I'm not going to split up Cleveland,
but I'll add insert other city thatdoesn't have such a minority population into that
district, right to make up thesenumbers, because when they're drawing districts,
they're trying to get to some magicnumber of population. But again, if

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only half of the population is responding, then that's not actual representation. So
you know, conservatives like to saytaxation without representation will yeah, taxation without
representation. Will What we're facing rightnow is that we don't know who is
in these communities to accurately represent them, right, So, how are we

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actually going to get the representation thatreflects the community if we don't know what
that community looks like? Um AndI think a lot of people are upset
with the redistricting, but they're notlooking at where this comes from. Uh,
you know, and you know,people don't live in the neighborhood.
People don't live in the neighborhood.These state legislators probably had never been in

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the East side of Cleveland. Allthey see is the data. Uh.
And and what we have a lotof institutions doing now is rallying people and
saying this is wrong, this iswrong. But how are you going to
say somebody's wrong for doing the mathor the data you gave it? Truey,
sure, I agree, I agree, I agree and that and that's
the problem. But at the sametime, they can pacify us, and

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I think that's what ends up happeningin the black community, is they give
us something to pacify us without actuallydoing it based off the numbers that they
were given. They just give ussomething and it's not it's never enough because
it's not based off any real data. It's just exactly exactly as for something
here, here's something, as opposedto basing it off the real data and

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saying, Okay, you need thisfor survival, So I'm going to at
least give you this and a halfif you need this for survival. Whatever
this ends up being, I don'twhatever the numbers end up being, but
this and survival. So now I'mgoing to give you this and a half
so that way you can survive.And now whatever you do with the half
is on you. But I knowyou can at least survive because I gave

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you. And you know, Ithink this episode has been a lot about
a lot about balancing two schools ofthought, because you know, I get
that, I get that, andI get you know, well, you
know people aren't responding Solf, justjust give them a district. But the
other part of me is like,that's not good stewardship of government, right,

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that's not good stewardship of government resources. Uh. I want government that's
making decisions based off of uh fact, not feelings. Um and and and
my feeling is that okay, thiscommunity of huff but you're gonna get you

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votes. Remember, feelings get youvotes. There you go, that's right,
you're right, you're right. Votesthe facts don't get you votes.
Feelings is what gets you votes.And then voting that feeling is what gets
what gets people that don't have thesubstance or content because I again, I've
been told to be more politically correct, so and in order to express what

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I'm saying. But the people thatlack the substance or content, they go
to more feelings, and they supplementthe content for the feelings. And then
that's why you get the extreme circusthat you get sometimes. And you know,
I agree, and and and aswe go through these elections, I
mean, we've been through a mayriage, Primary've been through a special election.

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I think that the people who endup winning these elections understand that they understand
that, hey, these are thefacts. The facts are that some people
don't vote, but I know thatsome of these people may vote if I
give them a feeling. You know, um, and and you're right,
You're right. The substance of thisconversation is to say, look y'all,

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we ain't feel out these senses.We ain't send this back in. We
don't get that back so we can'targue with what they're doing down there in
Columbus. But that's not what peoplewant to hear. People want to hear
that the state legislators and the RedistrictingCommission is racist. They want to hear.

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You know, it's easier, it'seasier to create the villain than it
is to actually be the hero umbecause the hero means you got to actually
solve a problem. What they're doingright now is they're making math, they're
making arithmetic, and I'm I'm aboutto get on my like super conservative school
board soapbox, but you can't makemath racist. Man, you can't do

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it. You can't do it becauseyou're not helping anyone in that process.
Well, here here's what I cansay. I agree with you somewhat.
And then when I say, someoneyou can't make math racist, but you
can manipulate numbers in order to proveyour point. And whatever your motive is
behind your point, that's what yourmotive is behind your point. But you
can use numbers to prove your pointand exclude numbers that that that don't so

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that that that is one point aswell. No, no, and and
and and as we close this segment, I think, I think what certain
individuals are doing when it comes toredistricting, when it comes to making noise
about how these districts are drawn,is that they're excluding the finite data that
was actually reported, right, They'reexcluding that fact and they're including will you

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know that miss Maybel been living overhere for twenty five years, and you
know that Miss Irma been living overhere for thirty five years, and you
know that they got fifteen grandchildren onthis block and they're not being represented.
But again, man, I saythis all the time, is that as

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as voters, as Americans, particularlyAfrican Americans, we need to stop listening
to the beat of what these peopleare saying and really listen to the lyrics,
because there's no way that anyone who'sactually singing from the real song book
of what the census says can saythat these districts are drawn in a way
that excludes people that are actually counted. So I guess at the end of

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segment, too, what does theNA gonna say. The NAP is gonna
say the census is now another nineyears away, But we need to be
doing in communities to get the representationwe need. We want the district that
we want to see redrawn, aswe need to be making sure that people
understand that when the census comes,when people come to your door, you

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need to answer because in a yearafter that, you're gonna see some results
that you may not like. Andthe only people we're gonna have to really
blame is ourselves. Segment two,Episode eighteen, Not another political podcast.
One, most segment to go.You're in the nap. Not another political

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podcast. This is the Knap.Segment three, not an a political podcast.
Episode eighteen. You're still in thenap, man, hard We I've
impressed with us. Man. We'rehaving tough political conversations right now. I

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mean, like like deep ones,bro, like we we we're going through
it for the last two episodes.So I just want to applaud you,
uh because I couldn't do it bymyself. Man, this is this is
good stuff. Uh No, man, this is fun. Man. This
is always as a good time.So this is this is great. Yeah,
you know I need you, man, I don't know. You know,

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I don't do nothing the format ofanything. If anybody knows, I
don't do nothing the format of anything. That's all college. I just I
just I just come in and herun the plays. I just shoot,
Yeah, just shoot. So this'sgonna be one of you you can really
just shoot on. Uh you knowuh we um. We talk about hip
hop a lot. We say thisis the podcast where culture meets politics,

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and we had a great example ofthat with Miss Nicki Minaj uh formerly of
Young Money. Uh. You know, she she's everything. And I don't
want no problem for the barbs beforeI start this segment. I just want
to put that out there. Yeah, I don't need no I don't need
no unicorns on the Twitter or noneof that stuff, because I ain't got

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no problem with Nicki. But apparentlyNicki has been having some problems with some
of the health authorities throughout the worldat this point. Nicki Minaj went on
Twitter sometime last week and alleged thather cousin's friend was having some uh testicular

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implications after taking the vaccine, theCOVID vaccine, as essentially she was She
was not saying she was anti vaxjust that everyone should be aware of it.
Uh. That came off of hernot being allowed to go to the
met galla because she was not vaccinated. Yeah, the met Galla by itself

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could have been a whole m segmentwhich you might use for upcoming episode in
my theme right real quick, andnot to cut you off the I would
be insulted. And if I wasnicky as at Nikki's status before we get
into the political part of it,but at Nikki's status, if somebody told
you, if you're at your status, let's bring it all the way down

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a skill kline, because what peopledon't know Colin is a local celebrity,
so right, he's a local celebrity. So but con at your status,
if somebody was like, hey,you can't get into you can't get into
Angelo Mellas because we got something elsegoing on, or you're not vaccinated,
you would feel some type of waytoo. Whether you was vaccinated or not,

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just your status would make you feelsome type of way that they wouldn't
let you win. I don't disagree, and I don't you know. I'm
not in support of vaccine mandates.I believe everyone should make their own personal
choice. Nikki went on record tryingto advise everyone to make their own personal
choice to pray about it. Shegot some backlash from uh the media,
particularly one Miss joy reid Um.They went back and forth on Twitter.

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Actually hard Um and the Barbs attackedGeory Reid Um and you know, the
Trinidaddy and government which is where Nikki'sfrom, actually did a whole study and
went to try to find the rootof this claim. They claimed they didn't
find anything. That's all finding good. What I want to talk about,

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Harp, it's kind of um thebacklash that Nikki got. Nikki was accused
of being red pilled, which islike a bad thing in America, which
is when you start thinking like conservativethinking critically in some instance. Uh,
they tried. You know, Inever knew what red pill was. Yeah,
I didn't even know that was areal term until they start using it

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for Nicky. Yeah. Yeah.And then you know what's crazy is my
thing is that they they just notthat they just picked Nikki, but in
the sense of of you guys aretrying to label somebody. Okay, let
me let me back it up.What happened to what happened to my body,
my choice? You know what I'msaying, What happened to my body

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my choice? That's an interesting point. They were bringing that up in Texas,
like about the Texas abortion law,like in the same news cycle,
So the same news cycle. Yougot my body, my choice. But
then Nicky says, hey, I'mI'm still cautious about the vaccine. Uh.
She never says she wasn't taken,and she just says she wasn't sure
about the vaccine because she knows someonethat had a physical reaction to the vaccine.

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Regardless of what that physical reaction mayhave been. He has a physical
reaction to that vaccine. So therefore, I'm not sure what type of physical
reaction it may happen my body,seeing as I don't have those same parts.
If she had said that in thatway, how then you see what
I mean? So yeah, asthe villain, But it still comes down

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to and now I'm not on mybody my choice to issue itself. I'm
not. I'm not speaking on mybody my choice to issue, except I'm
just simply comparing the two in theaspect of if one thing would be considered
what goes on when my body shouldbe my body, why wouldn't the other
things somewhat cross over in some waysomehow. Yeah, and that's what it's

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not being said. But yeah,it's still you attack her, and it's
especially a black woman at that youall the way go into this being a
black woman in that sense of Butthat's that was my initial thought when I
when I've seen it, And thatmay have been off from wherever the narrative
was going, but that's kind ofwhere that was kind of where my initial
thought was when I've seen it.Oh, yeah, they try to get

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they try to get Nikki all theway out of here, all the way
up to the president trying to getNikki all the way out of here.
But if you remember, this iswhat the and then he needs to find
something else to do. What thebody man like you like you ain't got
nothing else to do? This isthis is why I'd be This is my
point. It's all this other stuffgoing on in this world. We just

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talked about all these other things goingon right in the United States, and
this was us after kind of justweeding them out and just picking a couple
and just picking a couple of topicsto talk about for the show. But
it's all this other stuff going onin the world. But you worried about
why Nicki Minaj is not getting getin the vaccine and even if you say

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she got an influence her circle iswhat million people are so if that there's
more barbs than that, it's alot of bars. But I see what
you're saying, though it's not it'snot the same thing. But this is
what happens. But this is whathappens when black celebrities in particularly get off
the reservation. Yeah, Nikki hadtwenty two million followers on Twitter. Okay,

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I know, yeah, yeah,take that back, take that back.
But you know, you know,it'll be interesting to see if Nicky
says storm the Capital, what willhappen? That ain't That's not a good
point for us to talk about thatshe got that type of She ain't got
that type of following. She ain'tgot that. Her demographics aren't that them
twenty two million. It may besomething in there, but I don't know

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if any of them going to theCapitol. Did you get to have a
different type of base to do that. Yeah, but back to the issue
of uh, Nikki getting canceled.So they try to cancel Nikki. Uh,
But this is what happens when blackcelebrities get off the renovation. I
don't even know if y'all remember whenuh, like you just look at the
president, any black celebrity I eversaid anything positive about the president about President

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Trump during his presidency was immediately castaside. So I think that that that's
an element that we need to thinkabout the censorship. But I think you
know what was interesting about that censorshipand that that attempted cancelation of of they're
not to be high. Oh thebarbs, dude, don't do that.
I don't want no problems. Idon't want no problems. I don't want

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no problems. But when they tryto, yeah, we held or refreshed.
This is Yeah, the thoughts andstatements by Colin Jackson and those of
his and his alone, go ahead, Man, I don't I don't need
that type of problems. Man,right, right, right. But but
in Nikki's cancelation, uh, Nikkiended up making some unlikely friends and conservatives.

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Um. And I think that's somethingthat we need to talk about.
Is particularly we're talking about culture,hip hop culture and black culture. Um.
We've satten on the show many times. Black people as a whole,
our conservative minority as a whole areconservative. But it's interesting inogy ideology,
ideology not there, but by ideologyyou when you really sit down to speak

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to people, that's really where they'reat so it's socially interesting. So it's
it's an opportunity there, uh forconservatives to understand. Look, I'm not
gonna may not agree with you onpoint one point two, but on point
three there's some common ground there intothe bridge there. So I'm interested to
see what type of conservatives come outand try to befriend Nicki Minaj. I

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think it would be really interesting tosee Canadas did grif Grifter of the Year
right there. So it's already started, you know. But at the end
of the day, whether you agreewith NICKI get to cancel, whether you're

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interested in seeing what benefit there isbetween conservatives reaching out into hip hop culture
on issues that they may agree on. I still don't think that we should
be listening to celebrities for our medicaladvice about how to raise our children.
That's a little shot at NASA.I don't think we should be doing any

(41:50):
of that. But I just thinkthis whole idea that Nikki making a question
or having a question or questioning MinaI created this whole Twitter sphere debacle,
um, and it's something for conservativesto be aware of. Uh, you
know, you might find your allyin some interesting places, maybe on Young

(42:13):
Money. Uh, maybe singing asong about anacondas who knows. Man,
it's very interesting to me. Uh, just a whole Nikki situation. Hart,
what do you think? No,nick Nikki is I'm still curious of
how Nikki got on your radar anyway, How did how did that? How
did that happen? Whose grandchild orum Stafford? Yeah? What what Stafford?

(42:38):
Grandchild hits you to Nicki Minae whereshe was even on your timeline?
Who showed Joe Biden the tweet?Yeah? What's Stafford? What? Stafford
was responsible for explaining Luke? BecauseJoe was a Cardi B person, remember
he yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, So he was like, wait,
they're different. So he's been sohe've been on team Cardi B. So

(43:00):
hold on, maybe we've missed that. We should have maybe seen that coming.
He made his allegiance with Cardi Bearly and then now and he's rotten.
Maybe that's what it is we missed. Joe Biden is team Cardi B.
This is information you can only findout on not another political podcast.

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Listen, y'all man ask questions critically. Joe Biden ask questions, think critically.
We all want no smoke with themgoos uh or no smoke with the
bar. I don't want none ofthat. I'm just saying, Joe Biden,
every chance I get there, yougo. And we want you all

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think critically. We want you allto be aware, we want you all
to be counted, we want allyour voices to be heard, and we
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Episode eighteen, Segment three, notanother political podcast. We will see you
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