Ep. 22 - NAPP at CPAC (Guests: Congressman Byron Donalds and Kira Davis)

NAPP at CPAC (Guests: Congressman Byron Donalds and Kira Davis)

Episode Transcript

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with the nap. Colin Jackson,my co host was not able to make
it, but that's okay. I'malways up for taking a free vacation.
So I am down here in beautifulsunny Florida eighty five degrees in Cleveland,
Ohio, where Colin is at itsthirty five. So congratulates for that.
Colin sucks for you. So Iam standing. I am sitting here with

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the wonderful, fantastic Kia Davis.Hello, thank you very much for taking
the time out to speak with metoday. Of course. Yeah, welcome
to Cepack. Is this here for? This is my first seva? What
do you think so far? Sofar? I'm interested? Actually, So,
I was just mentioning that I hada conversation in the Starbucks line with
two seventy year old black women fromHarrisburg, PA. And it was interesting

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their take because they had actual pointsof reference from clan years wow, growing
up in Alabama, and I hadtwo three cousins that were killed directly from
the Klan, directly from Jim Crow. So it's interesting to hear that historical
context on some of the things thatthe whole woke movement that's going on now,

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because they were basically they were saying, is that this is a lot
of the things that we're complaining abouttoday, we're put in place by democratic
laws or these other issues that werealready in place years and years and years
ago. So now come now we'relike, oh, we're gonna complain about
it, but we're gonna get onthe side of the I'm gonna say oppressors,

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but you know, we're gonna andin that aspect, So it was
interesting and they had they had totake and I had never thought about it,
is that we're looking for accept asthe black community. We're looking for
acceptance, um, from the right, from you know, Europeans, white
people, um. And but we'reputting them on a pedestal and surprise when

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they feel superior, but we're puttingthem on So that's such a good point.
Yeah. So as as also,I was like, oh, Yeah,
that's right. She's like, weput them in a position where they
can judge us and we're looking fortheir acceptance, while at the same time
saying that you shouldn't judge us,we should all be equal. So it's
contradictory. It it doesn't make sense. And I was I never thought about

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it. That's really interesting. Yeah, like I need your acceptance. I
need you and then and now afterlike write laws so you can accept me.
And and it's like, yeah,why did they get to set the
standard for what acceptance is? Yeah, looking for acceptance. Yeah, it's
one of the lady. And ifI find her, I'm gonna I'm gonna
try to interview her. Yeah.She she literally said, my life has

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mattered since nine months before I wasborn, So I don't need I don't
need someone to come tell me thatnow my black life matters because it's always
mattered. And I was like,you know what touche to have to live
like that. I was um talkingto talking to my audience on just Listen

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to Yourself, which is a podcasthere to listen to it. Just listen
to me and then just listen toyourself and listen to things you're saying but
I was telling my listeners that,Um, one thing that I find disappointing
or frustrating about conservatives and Republicans isso many of them act like they're losing,

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And I think, like, whatwould change if you decided to act
like you were winning? And Ikind of feel the same way about black
folks too, right, Like whatwould change for us if we just decided
to act like we were just apart of America? Like We're not not
to say that we should ignore I'mnot saying this that we should ignore problems

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or not be concerned or not alwaysbe you know, standing up for justice
where where it needs to be felt, But I I guess what I'm saying
is sometimes I feel like we havea defeatist attitude and what if we walked
in victory you know if that's achurch term. But yeah, yeah,
and no, but but to thatpoint, so so, Um, Now

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I have a family member. He'sfar militant, he's far far like he's
mister black power. Yeah yeah,ye, But we have conversations similar to
that, and it's like, andhe's told me he's like black people as
a culture, we don't really necessarilyworry about what the day to day lives
or white people are like, butat the same time, we want them

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to enjoy our day to day lifeand accept our day to day life.
And it doesn't make sense because ifI'm not concerned about you, then you're
then European. Doesn't matter until affectsme directly, and I think we're chasing
someone's positive opinion of us. Wewant everybody to accept black people, we
want everybody to like black people.We want everybody to acknowledge the contribution we

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made to this country. But inreality, that's just not the case.
That's just not and it's not necessary. It's it's just a situation. We're
just to a point where it's like, why are we constantly saying we were
losing or we lost? To yourpleer point, why are we saying we're
losing or we lost? And inreality, all the contributions we've made to

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this country, all the contributions wecontinue to make to this country, all
the things that we do from everyaspect of industry, how could we have
lost. We're only saying we lostbecause it's someone else's perception of us,
and we're allowing that to drive us. So we're saying we lost because we're
saying we're lost and we're chasing.Like you said that defeat is attitude simply

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because somebody else told us that welost. Like like, so it's like
you went, we went through allthe hardships that we went through, moving
moving forward, and we're making progressto I guess, be equal or viewed
as equal. But we get toocaught up in being viewed as equal and
not uplifting us to be equal.Yeah, so so where we get caught

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up in, hey, we wantyour acknowledgement once you're just you know,
justification of how great we are asopposed to just continuing to be great.
That's what I did in my positionas an editor at large for Red State.
You know it's just conservative obviously conservativeblog and even just with what I
do with JLT. Why just thisis a reason why I didn't take my

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show over to like a quote hashtaglike conservative network. I wanted like an
urban network where I could like havea different audience or reach a different audience,
but also where you know, myconcerns, like talking about this kind
of stuff would be heard. Butthe other thing is that I realized,
like my last podcast network I gotfired from I had a really bad experience.

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I got fired because I felt thatthey were not taking my position as
a black woman in the industry seriously. And then when I brought that concern
to them, they accused me ofplaying the race card, and it got
really ugly. I may have screamedand a little bit and got in my
higher register a little bit, okayuh and ran away from them in a

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huff. And I was so angry, and I said to myself, like,
I'm just so angry at being aconservative, Like I'm out here like
hustling in these streets. Nobody respectme. And and then I just was
like feeling sorry for myself, andI felt I was praying about it.
I felt like I was like,Karat, you have a job, like

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you are someone's boss, Like whyare you complaining? Why don't you do
something about it? And I waslike, oh damn, Like I actually
do have some power. It tookme a minute to realize, like I
am in a position of influence inwhere I work. Why am I waiting
for someone else to recognize this greatness? Why don't I just go out and
find it? So I went tomy bosses and I said, you know

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what, I want to start hiringblack more black writers. I want to
go out and I want us tobe purposeful about finding black writers. And
they're like, great, go doit. Tell us what you need,
Go do it. And then eventhis week at Seapack, I told my
boss is over at townhall dot com. They have a booth here, they're
sponsors at Seapack. I said,look, we never do anything for Black

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History Month at Seapack, but it'sin February every year. I'm like,
OK, let's have a Black Historypanel right our black writers in and we'll
have a discussion. They're like,great, do it, tell us what
you need. So a lot oftimes we're shooting ourselves in the foot because
we're assuming that white folks don't wantanything to do with us or on one
help, but they're not just thinkingon that level. When we sort of

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step up and be like, hey, we're here and we have these ideas
and we just want to implement them. We're not begging anybody. We're not.
You know, if I think weneed to be more proactive, I
think we need to understand the actualpower that we do have to have absolutely
and and what happens is we getso caught up in begging for those resources.
And I'm using begging specifically because youcan sugarcoat it and say, hey,

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we're the resources that we should alreadybe getting. All right, we're
not. But a lot of timeswe get caught up in the Okay,
I gotta run this pass somebody sothat we don't offend white people, right
right, So it's like, okay, let me run this pass. So
you're allowing a gatekeeper to tell youthat this isn't possible, when in reality,
if we come to the table andsay, hey, this is everything

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that we got ready, we're tryingto go with this now, it's harder
to say no to something that's alreadya completed package and ready to go.
Yeah, but you're if you're askingfor permission or you're hey, how do
you feel about this or that?Now, now it gives them ability to
be like, nah, I don'tI don't think that, and it's not
it may not even be a racismthing. It may just be they don't

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understand how this affects the culture thatwe live in every day, right Like,
So it's like, yeah, so, if for example, we say,
hey, you should have a weshould broadcast the Martin reunion type thing,
right, we should do that.That should have been that should have
been like national national holiday. Butso we say, hey, this should

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be broadcast and simulcast to cross allplatforms. YadA, YadA. They're not
gonna understand and like why, well, for the same reason you broadcast the
Friends reunion, you know, like, but but that when you come to
them, you say, hey,this is the idea, and this is
why it affects this culture. Differently, It's completely different discussion than Hey,

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what do you guys think about possiblybroadcasting a reunion? Okay, yeah,
maybe for you, Yeah, Iwas thinking, how about the show Martin
might get the urban audience, Let'sgo with Wayne Brady instead. But so
so a lot of times we allowedthat to happen simply by not, like

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you said, asserting yourself, notnot asserting ourselves in the sense of this
is what we're trying to do andand we're gonna find a way to make
it happen. You know. Agood example of this is in the nineties,
filmmaker named Mario Van Peebles. Hisfather's Marlon Van Peebles, who's a
great black filmmaker, and he wasreally groundbreaker in the industry. And then

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Mario van Peoples before Black Panther madea movie called Panther, which is about
the Black Panther, which a lotof people were getting mixed up when Black
Panther came. I saw that Mariomade a lot more a lot of money
when Black Panther came out, becauseyou got he got that royal. People
were like, oh, I thoughtthis was Black Panther. But by the
way, best movie soundtrack, BlackPanther. Excuse me, Panther soundtrack.

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It's an amazing soundtrack. Go getit. Oh my gosh. I still
listen to it to this day.Anyway, he told this story. I
was watching an interview with him andhe told the story about how when he
was shopping around I took him manyyears to get it made, and he
was shopping around Panther and he said, I got really far in this pitch
meeting. I think he was likeUniversal Studios or something, and I was

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in this pitch meeting and I waslike, here's this story about like this
amazing movement, and it's got everythingthat you want, like action, drama,
racial tension, like it's got alot of great stuff for Hollywick and
they were like, we love it, we want to make this movie,
but what about if we made themain character a white guy who wants to

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join the Black Panthers. So andthen he has to like he has the
challenge of being accepted by them,and he finally becomes like one of them
and they really make a difference.And he was like, um no,
how that work? No, no, you know, And he didn't go
like, okay, how could likeyou know, anybody would love to sell

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a movie, right, He didn'tgo like, okay, well, maybe
if we work around this and changethis. He walked away. He was
like, no, that's not thepackage. And if you're not going to
make this the way that it's intendedto be made, I will move on.
And it took him years to getit made, but eventually he got
the movie he wanted, yeah madebecause he didn't compromise on the pack.

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He came to them the full package. He's like, this is the package.
This is what looks like. That'sit. So here's how I equate
because and one of the things abouteven the nap and anything i'd do any
I'm always unapologetically black, like becausey'all not gonna let me not be black
so much, there's no point inme kind of you know, shimmying around

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it, like even right now,I gotta pick in my pocket. But
but what happens is that that compromise. It's like, Okay, I'm gonna
compromise a little bit of my blacknessso I can get in the door.
Yeah. Like so it's a it'sa deli it's a delicate cycle because it
does have to happen at some points. Yeah, but when you when you

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don't compromise, you say this iswhat it is, this is I'm and
then now again, disclaimer, yougot to be in a position to do
this because you know, if ifyou're the janitor at your local you know,
organization, and you say, hey, I want to put up this
African American flag and they're like,no, you already have that. You
know, that negotiating power. Butwhen you get to certain levels and and

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and I don't fault anyone for this, because if you got into that level,
you've had to make certain compromises,right sure, But but once you
get there and realize that where you'reat, even to your situation, once
you once you realize where you're at, now you can use that leverage,
and now you have to purposefully usethat leverage and purposely do things because now
that's that reaching back part, that'sthat you got to a certain place.

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Now I can, I can,I can get a young writer on a
panel, a young black ploer ona panel, and this may be the
springboard that they to get to thenext thing and the next thing, and
then four people down the line needto do more of this. That's that's
what I like I have. Thatwas a real moment of revelation for me,
Like I had not been thinking likea leader. I had just been
thinking about like a soldier, likeanother soldier on the ground, trying to

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scrape my way to the top.And it, I mean honestly, like
took me a hot second to realize, like, oh I no, I
have made it. You know I'mhere now and I can be an influence
and I would encourage everyone to lookaround you and see what steps you can
take. And it's hard because sometimesI feel like my folks get caught and

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like the crabs in a barrel mentalitywhere we start to feel like we're all
crawled, like we all only havethis one little barrel and we all have
to claw our way to the top, and you're gonna have to like step
on somebody to get there. AndI just don't believe in that. I
know that it exists, that mentalityexists, but I don't think the reality
has to exist. I think wecan all my friends do it. You

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know of other racist sage like wecan. Somebody you probably should interview,
And I interviewed on JLT why recentlywas Devin Jones. He is the founder
of the South Chicago South Side GOP. Oh yeah, yeah, he's a
fascinating guy. You should definitely interviewhim, and you guys will have parallel
stories to tell about being involved inlocal glps. But one of the things

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he told me was like I wassent around away for the GOP to come
to the South Side and then theyjust weren't coming, and I'm like,
well, hell, I'll just starta GOP myself. And so that's what
he did. And right now it'shim and a couple of people. But
they're really making strides in the neighborhoodbecause they understand what their neighborhood needs and

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they're not like, as he putit, I'm not organizing mask mandate rallies
because Black folks don't care about themask mandates. They think people are nasty
anyway. But I'm organizing food drivesor drives to help people pay their parking
tickets. Really practical stuff, yeahsaying, but it makes it, It
makes so much of a difference.And even in Cleveland, I do a

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lot of work with the re entrycommunity, right yeah, and then so
it turns into a lot of something. A lot of times people don't know
exactly what you need, like whatyour culture, what your group needs specifically.
But when you find that out,then you can help specifically. So
now, yeah, you may nothe may put together or you know,

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you may put together something in yourlocal area that's a um. For example,
I'm gonna tell you something. Sosomething something I did was I signed
had a book sign up drive orbook club sign up drive. Right,
I didn't have a book club.I didn't. I've never been a part
of a book club. Right,So so what our dad just went to
the local schools and I was like, hey, I'm putting together a book

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club. That another of like,oh no, that's great. Were and
I went to all black schools,all local Lagh schools. O hey,
and you know, I'm trying toput together a book club. What do
you think? Oh, no,that's great. And it was like,
well, how do I do it? Oh, we don't know. But
once you get to set up,you know, will come help because that's
something that can directly that can directlyassist them. And and I think that.
And I did an interview recently too, um and they were asking how

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can the Republican Party get into theblack community and actually, you know,
affect change. And I told themspecifically, and there's a white guy I'm
talking to. I was like,you can't just send a bunch of white
people to the hood and saying bothfor us, Yeah, that doesn't that
doesn't work because they're not even listening. They're not even receptive to what you're
saying. Like, you have toactually be of the community. So if

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you really want to get into community, go reach out to some of these
black leaders, like have an actualintellectual, logical conversation with them, as
opposed to showing up at the churchesin October, like, hey, vote
for us in November. Yeah,Like that's not gonna work. And what
happens is I think as as aconservative network, you know, Republican Party

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however you want to put it.I think it gets to the and to
bringing full circle what you mentioned earlierabout the defeatist mentality. It's for the
Republican Party. It's like, well, why go after black volks when they're
only going to vote for Democrats.So now it's like, you know,
well we lost that one. Weneed to put more Republicans there, so
that way it counteracts Oh, itdoesn't come that that type of thing.
And and and again it's like,because we're at Seapack, I'm trying to

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keep it in the conservative you know, yeah, yeah, And that's the
conversation this weekend. So it's likeit's like, in order to do that,
you have to show that you reallyhave some sort of caring about the
community, right, so you canput together a just me and Colin actually
just did a diaper drive for alocal it's a black hospital. Um that

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it's called Village of Hilling in Cleveland, Ohio. Just if anybody wants to
look at the Village of Hill inCleveland, Ohio Lakes Shure Avenue, m
But we did a diaper drive becausethey just opened, so this is a
black owned hospital. Surfing. Yeah, and when people come in to get
their child looked at. Now theyhad they can take home five six diapers.
Yeah, so we I think itwas over like four or five thousand

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diapers that we ended up donating thatthat. But it's like specific stuff like
that. So if that's a Republicansponsored event, you know, something like
that, or you just went intothe community as a Republican. We just
did it as black men. Butif we went as a Republican or as
conservative, now that helps to tryingto shift the narrative of y'all don't really

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care about us. That that shiftsthe narrative of all Republicans are white.
That's all Republicans are white. Andthen so it's like it helps to it
helps to bring up the community becausewe can do that ourselves. But then
again it also helps to kind ofshift the narrative of what conservative and what
Republican and all that stuff is.I always say, like the number one

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question I get asked by white conservativesis, um, why are black people
they live conservatively but they vote forDemocrats, which and then it's true,
like Democrats really they're all their platformsgo against everything that black people stand for,
almost everything. Maybe they talk againThey talk a good game about student

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loans because they know that that appealsto us. Everything else they do is
anti black, everything from abortion toum just pipes and syringes. I mean,
but I always say, the thingis is, like I agree,
like I share the frustration. Ido understand it. But the thing is

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is that government goes to those whoshow up. That's what I was saying.
And the Republicans are not showing upin our communities. But guess who
is Democrats And they run five toone C three's and they do um,
you know, they do like fooddrives and voter and then they attach a
voter registration drive to it. Theygo and pick up people to vote,

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go vote. You know. They'rethe reason why Georgia changed their laws so
that you can't serve food within onehundred and fifty feet of an election.
It's because of Democrats, because that'swhat they do, right. They know
that with the food comes you know, a conversation and then but they're plugged
in. That's my point in acard. That's right, they're plugged in.

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And as frustrated as that might makeconservatives, you have to deal with
reality. They're they're making inroads becausethey're there, right, so we're not
there. We need to we needto show up so as you say,
so that they know, yeah,we're on the ground and we care too.
We want to send you home withdiapers because guess what, we believe
your baby was a person from themoment that that baby was conceived, right,

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So we want to make sure thatafter you have that baby, you
have all the support that you need. You know, that's what we need
to be doing exactly, and you'llget those votes because black people aren't dumb.
It's just like stress, but that'sextremely and it turns into it turns
into it doesn't matter anyway. That'swhat the black communities is like. It
doesn't matter anyway. Whoever I votefor it, they're gonna be crooked.
No, right, voting for thecrooked side. Right, Your your perception

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is that the Republicans are crooked,and then you vote for the crooked people
to put in So now you're present, is everybody's crooked. It's like,
no, you n out. AndI'll say this on every show, like
to be an educated voter is tobe more dangerous in your area because now
you because now you know, hey, this person's voted um to increase the

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minimum sentencing rate or the minimum sentenceguidelines for minimum mandatory minimum for the sentencing
guidelines. This person's voted for thatfour different times, but then comes to
you and says, we have todo something about criminal justice reform. Yeah,
why are you raising the mandatory minimums? If? If we're doing something
about criminal justice reform, but thatpart's not spoken about. Only spoken about

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is the campaign point. Yeah,and then that's where you just talking,
which is why that's why I dojilt y right. My whole thing is
like break down the talking points.Um, all right, I see that.
My next guest is on jilty ishovering around? Are both so?
Yes, let me get Yeah,we'll wrap us up. You'll be back.

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I'll definitely be back. Yeah,I'll definitely be back. I'll be
here all weekend, all right,talking to you. I'll see you,
lady. All right. These daysit seems like everybody's talking, but no
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I am here standing with the HonorableCongressman Donald's who it was gracious enough to
give me a few minutes of histime. How are you doing today,
sir? I'm doing good. Howare you? I'm doing great? So
real quick, I know, Iknow you're busy and you're moving on.
But so my first question is toreally to Black am America. How,
how exactly do you feel that theinvasion of Ukraine from Russia is going to

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affect the black black community? Andhow should Black Americans feel with everything going
on, seeing as we're watching itfrom the fire. Well, I think
with specific to the black community,I think the invasion of Ukraine really impacts
all of America. And here's whatI'm gonna Here's I'm gonna tell you,
first of all, from an inflationstandpoint, with the sanctions that are going
to occur on Russia. It's goingto raise gas prices. And whether you're

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you know, in the black community, higher gas prices, higher home meeting,
all prices actually diminishes the spending powerin your household. Have you got
to put more money, more moneyfrom your from your budget towards putting gas
in the tank, or the heatin your house or frankly, all the
other things associated with oil, whichis basically every product we buy. Um,

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it not only has deep impacts onthe Black community, but every other
on a second level, the issueit creates, it puts America in a
more weakened position on the world stage. Um, if Ukraine continue, if
Ukraine falls, what's next is Taiwanon a fall to China. And I
think for Black America to understand thatthe most of the world's semiconductors and microchips

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come from Taiwan. So you're notyour iPhones, your computers, anything you
buy this electronic your cars. Ifthe Chinese control the microchip market, do
you think that prices are going togo up or go down? Right?
I mean, that's that's that's whythis is important to Black America, and
frankly, that's why it's important toall of America. Oh that and that
makes perfect sense. And so somy next question is is seeing as we're

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at Cepack and there's not many ofus in the building, but I know
there's even less of them where whereyou kind of be where you're at normally,
So how does it fails as ablack man? As a black man?
Can you kind of give me alittle bit of your experience in the
post Trump era in Congress where it'sa lot of it's a lot of pandering
from the other side, and you'reon not necessarily on that side. I

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mean, I think that, honestly, we're in an environment in politics where
it's just super toxic. Man.I think people have gotten into this are
you a Republican or a Democrat mindset? Are you supporting? Are you support
President Trump? Or you don't supportPresident Trump? Mindset? And people aren't
taking a step back and just beingAmericans and just thinking about the things that

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are important to you and important toyour family, important to your community.
I think that here a seapack man, it's just been loved. People just
appreciate me being here. I'll tellyou there's a lot more black people here
that I've seen in previous Seapacks.Oh yeah, so that's actually grown.
It's more and more Black Americans atSeapack every single year. It continues to
grow. You know. Do Ithink I got a part in the play

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in that, you know, maybe, But I'm just what I'm happy to
see, you know, for ourcommunity is that people start thinking about their
politics and not being afraid of whattheir politics are, not just being you
know, put into a situation whereoh, why I'm black? So I
gotta think this and think that,you know, be who you are,
because you know, you and Iboth know in the black community, man,
we got so many different thoughts onso many different things, like we're
not palytic, so we shouldn't bethat way when it comes from our politics.

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Absolutely, man, And let's Iwant to thank you for taking your
time out. I know you gotsomethhere to go. They play always pulling
at you. I just had anopportunity to hear you speak though. Man.
It's very powerful and I appreciate it, appreciate absolutely. This is Darby
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people for Black people are white liberals. They're the most dangerous for black people.
So these quote unquote progressive white wolfpeople, they are the biggest enemies
to black people because you become vulnerableto them because they you know, they
say, I got hot sauce inmy bag. You know, you know,

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they say, you know, you'renot even black if you don't vote
for me. You know, man, that that really causes us to become
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my first sea pack. It wasso interesting. I met so many interesting
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in Orlando. I'm about to thinkabout going to Disneyland, see if I
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