On today's episode of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture with Isaac Weishaupt podcast we continue with our "Conspiracy Classics" series looking at George Orwell's 1984! We'll wrap up the rest of the book and unpack Big Brother's strategies for mass surveillance, corporate collusion with the government, controlling our thoughts, memory holing reality, MSM doublethink and how other Dark Enlightenment concepts! Winston falls in love (big mistake), two minutes of hate during Hate Week, seeds of rebellion land Winston into the dreaded Room 101, and Great Reset concepts of "Freedom is slavery"!
In Parts 1 and 2 we'll go through the book and in Part 3 we'll talk about who George Orwell was and how 1984 is happening now through the Dark Enlightenment!
In Parts 1 and 2 we'll go through the book and in Part 3 we'll talk about who George Orwell was and how 1984 is happening now through the Dark Enlightenment!
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In the second episode of the 1984 Book Club conspiracy classics, we break down the rest of Orwell's dystopian prophecy and compare it directly to the world we're living in today.
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From mass surveillance and corporate government collusion to psychological control, digital memory holes and media driven double think, 1984 is a blueprint for the dark enlightenment.
Is Big Brother now Big Tech? Are we living through two minutes of hate on our feeds every day? The parallels will shock you and they're hiding in plain sight. Join me as we continue our journey through the reddest pill of them all.
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Now for some reason, you're stumbling upon this episode. This is part two of our 1984 Book Club. You're going to want to go listen to part one.
We're going to go listen to part one, we went through part one of the book. There's three parts of 1984 Book. We covered part one in episode one and now we're going to cover part two and three in episode two.
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And then stay subscribed because we're coming back with episode number three where we talk about who George Orwell was and we see if in fact we're living through a 1984 dark enlightenment.
Plot spoiler, probably so. Probably so. So, you know, and I'm just picking up where Alex Jones left us all behind. You know, he used to be the guy that warned us of all this stuff and I'm apparently he says everything's great now.
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I don't believe that because I read this book and now I'm fired up. Okay. So I got a lot to read to you today and this is the second part. The first part was a lot of reading.
But it's important because I'm going to get you to this book in less than two hours. And the book, like I said in part one, it's fine.
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I mean, I struggle with fictional books anyway, but I find it to be kind of boring. So I'm going to try to just give you the bare essentials of what's going on so we can have a educated conversation in part three. All right. Let's go.
So we are in 1984 we're in part two of the book chapter one.
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He wins in our protagonist. He hooks up with the dark hair and one. You know, the one that's he was talking about he wanted the slice of throw while she was bustin nuts. What?
And this woman's been following him. And now he wants to hook up with her. Because remember at the end of part one of the book, he went and rented an apartment that doesn't have a tele screen like he's going off grid sort of right.
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Because he was struggling with this idea of rebelling against the system. He really doesn't trust big brother. And he's like man, something's wrong here, something right. And he goes to rent an apartment because he wants to sort of, you know, dabble.
So him and old girl with the dark hair, they got to keep this thing on the DL, right.
And they suggest the reading suggests like she could be some kind of intel agent in my personal opinion when I read it. So I'm like, trust this lady. I don't know.
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She covertly gives Winston a photo of paper that says I love you. And they do this very secretly. They have to make sure the tele screens don't see any of this because we talked a little bit about
the idea of sex in the world of 1984 and has to be expected they looked out upon it, right. Anything that restricts the ranges of consciousness, that's what big brothers about.
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They're like no fun, sexy time, no words, right. All these words are expanding your range of consciousness. We got to keep you stupid and uneducated.
That's their goal because if you're uneducated, they could fill your head with nonsense conspiracy theories, if you will.
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So that's chapter one. And chapter two, Winston and Julia, we finally get dark hair's name. Her name is Julia.
Winston and Julia, they they they've been messing around. They finally get it in their, they're sneaking out to the countryside. His wrist game is ultra strong. He says, I hated the sight of you.
I wanted to our AP EU and then murder you afterwards.
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Two weeks ago, I thought of seriously smashing your head in with a cobblestone. If you really want to know, I imagine that you had something to do with the thought police.
The girl laughed delightedly, evidently taking this as a tribute to the excellence of her disguise.
Not the thought police. You didn't honestly think that.
Yeah, my man's a weirdo dude. I don't know how he ended up getting any chick to hang out with him, but here we are.
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Apologies for my voice. I'm an extra Alex Jonesy today at the cross it. We did a high intensity workout. And I know I got Fran cough.
So this ought to be fun. My apologies in advance, but I got to get done. I got to get this episode recorded. All right.
So Julia, she works with a bunch of spies, turns out she does have intel connections.
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She works with the junior anti sex league. This is all like government propaganda stuff. Big brother.
And at the end of the chapter, he Winston says how all the emotions get mixed together and they don't have a pure emotion like love.
And this is very much like that range of consciousness thing. It's reducing the number of words we use.
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It's a very utilitarian. I would dare I say tech bro fantasy.
Lack of emotions, lack of empathy. That's what they're all about.
Okay. And they say that having sex is actually a political statement for our main character for Winston.
And he's basically saying, look, I control my body. I control my sexy time. Not you big brother. F off.
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So now we're in chapter three. Winston and Julia, they agreed to keep me up, but they got to keep changing up the locations and so on when they meet up to keep a secret.
Julia, we find out 26 Winston is 39.
They're it's given my boy Leo de caprio. All right.
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You know Leo's great. I anyway, Julia where I was at the defend my man Leo, you know, he's hanging out of daddy parties. He's he's messing around with girls in their 20s. I'm like, come on Leo.
Get it together, buddy.
Julia works in the fiction department writing novels.
And in the porn O sec.
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The cause of my retarded out porn O sec and part one making porn O for the pearls of the proletarians.
And she was making titles like spanking stories.
When I read you from the book, he learned with astonishment that all the workers in porn O sec except the heads of the departments were girls.
The theory was that men whose sex instincts were less controllable than those of women were in greater danger of being corrupted by the filth they handled.
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They don't even like having married women there she added girls are always supposed to be pure.
Here's one who isn't anyway.
Then we move on and this is kind of an important part of the book here. They talk about.
How they're indoctrinated to believe sex should be done not for pleasure not for love but for duty to the party which I asserted in part one that's kind of Elon Musk talks right.
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Elon's talking about like oh we need to make children for the future of this country.
How is that much different?
Tell me how that's much different.
Okay.
Because in 1984 it's like the whole idea of 1984 you know to give you a little sneak peek is adoration of your your government slave master.
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Adoration for big brother for the party.
So everything you do needs to be thinking of them you're supposed to be having sex like oh yeah this is for our president or whatever you know like it's crazy bill.
The party the government thought that sex perversion ends up in creating hysteria.
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And when you make love you feel good and relaxed so they are suppressing the sex drive in order to steer that energy into the party.
And the majority of the book says unlike Winston she had grasped the inner meaning of the party's sexual puritanism.
It was not merely that the sex instinct created a world of its own which was outside the party's control and which therefore had to be destroyed if possible.
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What was more important was that sexual private privation induced hysteria which was desirable because it could be transformed into war fever and leader worship.
But it was when you make love you're using up energy and afterwards you feel happy and don't give a damn for anything.
They can't bear you to feel like that they want you to be bursting with energy all the time.
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All this marching up and down and cheering and waving flags is simply sex on sour.
If you're happy inside yourself why should you get excited about big brother in the three year plans and the two minutes of hate and all the rest of their bloody rot.
That was very true he thought there was a direct intimate connection between chastity and political orthodoxy.
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Further how could the fear the hatred and the lunatic credulity which the party needed in its members be kept at the right pitch except by bottling down some powerful instinct and using it as a driving force.
The sex impulse was dangerous to the party and the party had turned it to account.
They had played a similar trick with the instinct of parenthood. The family could not actually be abolished and indeed people were encouraged to be fond of their children in almost the old fashioned way.
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The children on the other hand who we learn about in part one being snitches were systematically turned against their parents and taught to spy on them and report their deviations.
The family had become in effect an extension of the thought police.
It was a device by means of which everyone could be surrounded night and day by informers who knew him intimately.
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This is like the idea David Ike talks about in I believe it's freedom road he talks about the prison without the bars and how it's easier to control us by having us police ourselves.
I think he describes it as if there's one wolf you can kind of corral the sheep with one wolf but not that well if there's too many sheep.
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So what you got to do is program the sheep to warn each other to be like hey don't go over there don't do this don't do that don't do that don't do that.
And that's kind of that's kind of what what this future looks like and the sexual puritanism is kind of like very hand I don't know I never I shouldn't say that.
I've only seen a couple episodes of handmaid stale but it sounds kind of like that I could be wrong about how they depict sex.
(11:21):
But think about this it's you know there's all these reports of studies about how the amount of sex people are having is going down and you've got this prominence of in cells and in cells.
I mean predominantly lean one way right and it could be that they're taking advantage of that sex drive this is probably some kind of Freudian cycle analysis.
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But my point is is that 1984 they were talking about this exact idea.
I will talk more in part three.
So we finally find out why these kids are snitches the children are turning against their parents so that they could become an extension of the thought police in order to snitch on each other which is very much what David I talked about right.
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So it now we're in chapter four Winston and Julia they're using the room that Winston's renting to you know sexy time.
They talk about how they love real coffee and real food because they can't get that in their 1984 world their vociana they hate the party they hate big brother oh dear coffee I do hate big brother maybe maybe I'm in 1984.
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Then we're in chapter five remember sign me I never did know how to say his name I didn't even bother looking it up my apologies s. Y. M. E.
He was the guy that was writing that new speak dictionary remember he was like oh see me gray we're going to reduce the number of words and it's such a waste for people to have all these flowery words.
Well he's gone vaporized it's murder.
(13:01):
Ja Role selling up at the 1984 book club yeah he's gone see you see you never loser what do you do.
And we find out that the government's prepping for hate week all right because remember in the first part we talked about two minutes of hate where they they show that goldstein guy the rebellion dude and everyone's like we hate him and it's supposed to sort of as we learned redirect the sexual energy into hatred of the enemy.
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Which therefore makes use to port of your government big brother so they're prepping for a thing called hate week you know like haters ball they got the haters ball I hate you I hate you I don't even know you.
And they have a new song called the hate song right and you know Julia starts talking about fake news and again this 1984 written in 1949 back then no one doubted the news at all.
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So like that's pretty telling that because today's news on the left and the right you know fake news all around it's all bought paid for by billionaires I'm not saying that everything the news says is alive not I'm not saying that at all.
But but I am saying that they filter everything through a bias they choose to omit certain stories they choose to make certain stories the top headline and it's all feeding the narratives of stoking a two party system right which I'm against vehemently against.
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I'm registered unaffiliated I vote third party often and yeah I just think that the two party system is just a way of leveraging that Haguey and dialect.
Save this for part three got a lot to get through.
And Winston's trying to tell her the media is.
Charge to call out other countries as enemies and how they abolish the past listen to what said here.
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In some ways she was far more acute than Winston and far less susceptible to party propaganda.
Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening because remember Winston lives in Oceana there's only a few continents and Eurasia is a different continent they're told they're the enemy and they're supposed to hate them right.
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The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the government of Oceana itself just to keep people frightened.
This was an idea that had literally never occurred to him.
She also stirred a sort of envy in him by telling him that during the two minutes of hate her great difficulty was to avoid bursting out laughing.
She's like ultra OG granola woke right she not falling for this nonsense.
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The whole time Winston is like I don't know I kind of don't think it's true he's more like me.
I don't know man something's weird as she's already down the rabbit hole she's like bitch please.
It's all fake news.
But she only questioned the teachings of the party when they in some way touched upon her own life.
Often she was ready to accept the official mythology simply because the difference between truth and falsehood did not seem important to her.
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She believed for instance having learned it at school that the party had invented aeroplanes.
In his own school days Winston remembered in the late 50s it was only the helicopter that the party claimed to have invented.
Doesn't years later when Julia was at school it was already claiming the aeroplane one generation more and it would be claiming the steam engine.
Because you remember bar one Winston at this whole thing of like dude I know the government didn't invent a plane it's been around long before that.
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And when he told her that aeroplanes had been in existence before he was born and long before the revolution the fact struck her as totally uninteresting.
After all what did it matter who invented aeroplanes it was rather more of a shock to him when he discovered from some chance remark that she did not remember that oh she had a four years ago had been a war with East Asia and at peace with Eurasia.
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It was true that she regarded the whole war as a sham but apparently she had not even noticed that the name of the enemy had changed.
I thought we'd always been at war with Eurasia she said vaguely. It frightened him a little.
The invention of aeroplanes dated from long before her birth but the switch over in the war had happened only four years ago.
Well after she was grown up.
He argued with her about it for perhaps a quarter of an hour.
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In the end he succeeded in forcing her memory back until she did dimly recall that at one time East Asia and not Eurasia had been the enemy.
But the issue still struck her as unimportant. Who cared she said impatiently.
It's always one bloody war after another and one knows the news is all lies anyway.
Sounds very reminiscent right.
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The news is so manipulated that it almost renders it useless and that's the struggle of these people out there like I don't even know what's real anymore and I feel that pain too.
I wish I grew up in the 50s and 60s with Walter Cronkite and I was just like yeah that's what happened sounds good buddy.
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Nowadays you got to consume ten different sources and put it through filters and be like okay what bias is what.
Chapter six.
O'Brien remember he's the inner party guy.
He starts recruiting Winston into the rebellion and he's talking smack about Simon.
He's sort of like signaling right so you know.
And in the book they talk about the process of rebellion and there's a process that they view this rebellion as why they have a thought police and you can't think these things because thoughts lead to writing which lead to action.
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Okay. And the book it says he knew that sooner or later he would obey O'Brien summons perhaps tomorrow perhaps after a long delay he was not certain what was happening was only the working.
Out of a process that had started years ago the first step had been a secret involuntary thought the second had been the opening of the diary he had moved from thoughts to words and now from words to actions.
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The last step was something that would happen in the Ministry of Love he had accepted it the end was contained in the beginning.
Because Mary wrote that diary was like down with big brother right he was thinking it and then he wrote it down and now look at look at this guy trying to get him in the rebellion.
Chapter seven.
When's it keeps having dreams about his mother in this golden country pasture that kind of matters later.
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For some reason my brain goes the the Elisinian fields I don't know.
Do that what you will and he talks about how if they get caught you know falling around their cooked there's good as dead they know this.
And they talk in the book of the all they're going to torture us they're going to they're going to you know forces to confess Winston says.
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Hey the party can't make me not love you it's it's the one thing they can't do right I can always love you I can say this I can say that the love will always be there.
Hold that hold the beer okay.
And any any basically is on his like you think I'm going to say things but you don't have to believe it right they can make you they can't get inside you enough to make you believe things you can say whatever okay.
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All right let's keep that energy up when you're in the torture room Winston chapter eight they go to a Brian's house and he's like look I can turn off these tele screens.
It's our drop in knowledge because you know that because they're trying to recruit Winston into the rebellion okay shall I say it or will you he said I will say it said Winston probably that thing is really turned off yes everything is turned off we are alone.
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We have come here because he paused realizing for the first time the vagueness of his own motives since he did not in fact know what kind of help he expected from a Brian it was not easy to say why he had come here.
He went on conscious that what he was saying must sound both feeble and pretentious.
We believe that there is some kind of conspiracy some kind of secret organization working against the party and that you are involved with it.
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We want to join it and work for it we are enemies of the party we disbelieve in the principles of in sock.
We are thought criminals we are also adulterers I tell you this because we want to put ourselves at your mercy if you want us to incriminate ourselves in any other way we are ready.
So now oh Brian's like I bet you know real recognize real.
(21:42):
I don't Brian introduces at this point Winston and Julia into the resistance the rebellion okay.
I think they call it the brotherhood which is confusing because you got big brother as the government aka the party now you have the brotherhood which is the rebellion.
They start drinking some wine they never heard of wine and this is part of the restricting consciousness right get rid of drugs any kind of mind expanding hallucinogens alcohol anything right.
(22:13):
It's a virgin which I don't get like what they can get drunk off gin they can drink drink the wine I don't really get it.
And oh Brian's like hey you ready to die for this and of course they're like hell yeah bro and he gives them the book right and the book is written by Goldstein that's the guy that they all hate as the two minutes of hate guy the haters ball that are like hey hey hey hey hey hey.
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Well he wrote a book and the book reveals the truth it talks about controlling the people all right listen to this and the book he says.
Excuse me he filled the glasses and raised his own glass by the stem what shall it be this time he said still with the same faint suggestion of irony to the confusion of the thought police to the death of big brother to humanity to the future to the past said Winston the past is more important.
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Agreed O'Brien gravely done done done okay chapter nine.
And this chapter is massive and it's probably the one that needs the most attention appropriately so and I would argue that this was Orson Wells aim for this whole book is just to say this chapter to everyone okay so it's kind of important.
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Pay attention locking folks this hate week thing it's coming to an end and it was of course full of hate on your Asia the enemy the new enemy and they're hanging war criminals and so on and the party switches it up and they say oh you know what we've always been allies with your agent it's East Asia were beefing with it's always been East Asia straight up lion right to their faces and the the brain dead sheep are like you know what you're right.
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You know what I like what you're saying I agree it has always been East Asia huh.
It's like it's incredible right.
Winston he read the book which is titled the theory and practice of all a garcol collectivism alright.
And the chapters have interesting titles ignorance is strength and war is peace which are the party slogan so it's deliberately unpacking each talking point like like war is peace okay.
(24:24):
This is how deep deep back says.
In one combination or another these three super states are permanently a war and have been so for the past 25 years war however is no longer the desperate annihilating struggle that it was in the early decades of the 20th century.
It is a warfare of limited limited aims between combatants who are unable to destroy one another having no material calls for fighting and are not divided by any genuine ideological difference.
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This is not to say that either the conduct of war or the prevailing attitude towards it has become less blood thirsty or more chivalrous.
On the contrary war hysteria is continuous and universal in all countries and such acts as our API and G looting the slaughter of children the reduction of whole populations to slavery and reprisals against prisoners which extend even to boiling and burying alive.
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I looked upon as normal and when they are committed by one's own side and not by the enemy meritorious but in a physical sense war involves very small numbers of people mostly highly trained specialist and causes comparatively few casualties which I mean that kind of sounds like how war is done today.
If you watch G.I. Joe, I watch G.I. Joe growing up like heavily and they're always shooting at each other the red and the blue bullets and like no one ever dies.
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No one ever dies.
Not saying that they should I'm just saying like that's how it goes.
The primary aim of modern warfare in accordance with the principles of double think this aim is simultaneously recognized and not recognized by the directing brains of the inner party is to use up the products of the machine without raising the general standard of living without raising the general standard of living.
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Ever since the end of the 19th century the problem of what to do with the surplus of consumption goods has been latent in industrial society.
Now double think it's explained later in the chapter better I'm going to explain I'm going to redo that part now because you got to understand what he's saying here.
To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them to forget any fact that has become inconvenient and then when it becomes necessary again to draw back from oblivion for just so long as it's needed to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies all this is indispensable necessary.
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Even in using the word double think is necessary to exercise double think.
And the idea is that they're blatantly lying and they're I mean just pull stuff out of their butt to convince you to follow their agenda.
It's like how um you know certain people ran for positions to expose the Epstein list and then now it's like not I just a hoax just fake news and we're everyone's like what are you talking about.
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And it's like hey there's no video camera footage of Epstein sell then they're like hey we got footage of Epstein sell what.
And then they're like oh but it's missing a minute just getting here's a minute it's like bro this is crazy because they want full and utter adoration and idolization of the party.
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And to just support whatever it is they say.
And then they're like what are you talking about?
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The book also talks about the cycles of humanity always running with the elites and the pours you know your high middle low class in the middle class eventually over throws the high class and then they they become the high class while the low class the polls always stay poor.
And the party was able to make sure that the middle class could never do this that they can never achieve power or wealth and of course the low class polls they stay distracted so they don't even want any of these things.
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And the book says this under this lies a fact never mentioned allowed but tacitly understood and acted upon namely that the conditions of life in all three super states are very much the same.
No she and the prevailing philosophy is called in sock in your age it's called neo bullshivism and in East Asia it is called by a Chinese name usually translated as death worship but perhaps better rendered as obliteration of the self.
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The citizen of ocean is not allowed to know anything of the tenants of the other two philosophies but he's taught to ex exe create them as barbarous outrages upon morality and common sense.
Actually the three philosophies are barely distinguishable and the social systems which they support are not distinguishable at all.
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Everywhere there is the same pyramid structure the same worship of semi divine leader the same economy existing by and for continuous warfare.
It follows that the three super states not only cannot conquer one another but would gain no advantage by doing so.
And this makes me think about how confusing it is to hear about how you know fascism the worst thing ever communism the worst thing ever and they're both on opposite ends of the spectrum.
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One's heavy right one's heavy left yet they both end up identical with the totalitarian government dictator and you know oppressive regimes that never leave the office right.
And double think is about accepting contradictions that the party presents like wars peace which bill Cooper talked about the idea of keeping sovereignty through a strong military which I believe mostly saw like maybe I'm brainwashed.
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It says the essential act of war is destruction not necessarily of human lives but of the products of human labor wars a way of shattering to pieces or pouring into this stratosphere or sinking in the depths of the sea.
And the materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable and hence in the long run too intelligent boom boom boom.
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Pfff rrrr rostafari horn.
Too educated and this is why I'm always like man I support education no matter how that looks.
Just don't go into debt unless you can unless you can you know make that up over a lifetime of wages doing a better job.
But to just to just what I don't like about the conspiracy movement is this idea of.
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Craping on the idea of college of higher education of reading of consuming the news like it turns into real black pill territory and it it ends up being like well the only person you should listen to is me.
Not only one you should listen to you know college is just indoctrination and I get it like there's very much like leftist dances that you can consume in some colleges that's not that was in my case well maybe it was.
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Maybe it was to be fair.
But that doesn't make it wrong okay the whole thing I had learned in college in every course I took in fact my my senior thesis was.
The class I took right before it was like this whole idea of continuing education after college and the importance of lifelong learning like that was a major theme in college was you got to keep learning that's why I started the illuminati watcher blog forever ago.
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Because I was just used to reading researching regurgitating and you you kind of become condition for it and addicted to it in a way so after like six years of doing that like drinking from a fire hose about engineering mathematics and philosophy and all my generals that I took.
I didn't it felt weird like I remember I got them a school and I had a two year break before I started grad school and I was like well now what do I do and I started learning Texas Holden miles playing poker online which you could do back then I don't know if you can anymore but it was banned for a long time.
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I was playing penny like I mean I'm talking like I low twenty bucks in there and make it last a month or two.
The hell maybe even longer and I just thought well this is kind of a waste I just felt like a waste of me it wasn't enriching so anyway like colleges what gave me that because I was a real dumb I mean I wasn't ever I'm not a stupid human being like I was always pretty good at comprehension and reading and all that stuff.
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But like I'm not I was a lot dumber before college that's a fact that's a total fact anyway the point is the party the system the oppressors love the uneducated they love it because then they then the because as human beings we crave truth and we look for information right.
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And if they're like hey don't trust none of these people but you can listen to us we got this you know this platform will tell you what to think they love that.
So Winston is reading all of this from the book from Goldstein's the book and Julia realizes like oh snap there's a tele screen behind a picture on your wall.
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Uh oh it's the thought police that's right this apartment he was writing turns out fake news there they were they had a tele screen the whole time that's not good.
They were voyeying the whole time part three look at we're cruising right along chapter one part three Winston's in lockup right.
And he thinks he may be in the ministry of love with a bunch of other thought prisoners they don't really detail but they basically get arrested because the the tele screens excuse me.
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Perhaps maybe his own mothers in there because he's dreaming about his mom right.
And O'Brien said they don't save any rebellion folks to get caught but what they will do in the brotherhood in the rebellion they're going to send you a razor so you can you know Epstein out.
And knowing the very beginning of the book Winston talks about how hard it is to get razors and shoelaces which are you know the primary weapons for the Epstein treatment in the prisons.
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Now chapter eight of part chapter eight part two O'Brien talks to Winston listen to this he says we never help our members at most when it is absolutely necessary that someone be silenced we're occasionally able to smuggle a razor blade into a prisoner cell you will have to get used to living without results and without hope you will work for a while you will be caught you will confess and then you'll die those are the only results that you will ever see there's no possibility that.
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That's where it cuts off.
I should have cut that last sense off sorry those are the only results that you will ever see.
So Winston he's in there and he sees a poet he knows named ample fourth and ample fourth is getting dragged to this room 101 which I found to be interesting symbolism here because we saw room 101 in the matrix.
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In the Nostek prison sense this is similar right they're both trapped in a trapped in hell.
And Neil is the one right he was the neo fight the one to change it all.
So I'm thinking in the book I'm like is Winston going to be the one is he going to be one that breaks down the big brother.
We're going to find out one of course being the foundational number.
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So Winston he sees old his neighbor Parsons in there and you know even he was a real loyal guy to the party what happened.
You didn't hear much about Parsons I cut out a lot of the stuff in the book.
Well what happened was Parsons daughter snitched on them do these damn kids worship Parsons is glad that he got turned in.
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He's like oh man you know I was worried I was going to get to rebellious I was saying you know I was in his sleep he was saying down with big brother that was enough to get him arrested but he's all thank goodness they stopped me before I went too far.
They're all cucks for the government.
O'Brien comes in and we find out that he got arrested a long time ago so now it's like wait a minute what.
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Okay chapter two Winston he's getting tortured he's getting beat up he starts admitting to stuff like he's like oh I'm sorry yes I admire capitalism I love sex you know.
But not all the crimes that he's accused of so they're like you're going to confess to all the crimes full so they take him to a torture room and I thought I was confused because I thought the torture room was room 101 but it's not okay.
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They hear a different torture room and strangely enough O'Brien's in there and he's now orchestrating torture electrical stuff.
Zappin and he keeps wanting Winston to confess to all these conspiracies that he believed her wrong stuff like how he saw the photo evidence that he would have when he was burning things of the ministry of truth all this you know his thoughts about the airplane all that stuff.
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And Winston he starts singing rage against the machine I'm just joking this is what he says in the book there's a party slogan dealing with the control of the past he said.
Repeat it if you please.
And he says who controls the past controls the future who controls the present controls the past repeated Winston obediently who controls the present controls the past said O'Brien nodding his head with slow approval.
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Is it your opinion Winston that the past has real existence they debate what the past is at this point but O'Brien tells him what's up he says Winston that reality is not external reality exist in the human mind no where else not in the individual mind which can make mistakes and in any case soon parishes only in the mind of the party which is collective any mortal whatever the party holds to be truth is truth it is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the party.
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That is the fact that you have to relearn Winston.
Then O'Brien he he's gone you know big speech do you remember he went on writing in your diary freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two makes four.
Yes said Winston O'Brien held his left hand it's back towards Winston with the thumb hidden in four fingers extended how many fingers my whole up Winston or.
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And the party says that is not four but five then how many.
Four.
Oh he's being a brat you're being a bad beat up the brat beat up the breath.
With the baseball.
O'Brien he keeps.
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I'm trying to I'm trying to jazz this out folks I mean I know I don't normally do that I got to jazz it up because it's kind of boring content but this last part is the best part of the whole book alright.
And we're getting real close.
So O'Brien keeps torturing Winston he's like bro you got to say the five fingers thing and I'm holding up four fingers you're going to say five fingers he keeps doing that.
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And then he drops the coldest thing ever I'm trying not to swear because I'm trying to build my YouTube here he drops the coldest line ever on Winston listen to this.
The first thing for you to understand is that in this place there are no martyrdoms you have read of the religious persecutions of the past in the middle ages there was the inquisition it was a failure.
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It's set out to eradicate heresy and ended by perpetuating it for every heretic it burned at the stake thousands of others rose up why was that because the inquisition killed its enemies in the open and killed them while they were still unrepentant in fact it killed them because they were unrepentant.
Men were dying because they would not abandon their true beliefs naturally all the glory belonged to the victim and all the shame to the inquisitor who burned him later in the 20th century they were called they were the total they were the totalitarians as they were called they were the German Nazis and the Russian Communists the Russians persecuted heresy more cruelly than the inquisition had done.
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And they had imagined that they had learned from the mistakes of the past they knew at any rate that one must not make martyrs because they exposed their victims to public trial they deliberately set themselves to destroy their dignity they wore them down by torture and solitude until they were despicable cringing when wrenches confessing whatever was put into their mouths covering themselves with abuse accusing and sheltering behind one another whimpering from mercy.
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Yet after only a few years the same thing had happened over again the dead men had become martyrs and their degradation was forgotten once again why was it in the first place because the confessions that they had made were obviously extorted and untrue we do not make mistakes of that kind all the confessions that are uttered here are true we make them true and above all we do not allow the dead to rise up against us.
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You must stop imagining that posterity will vindicate you Winston posterity will never hear of you you will be lifted clean out of the stream of history we shall turn you into gas pour you into the stratosphere nothing more remain of you not a name and a register not a memory and a living brain you will be annihilated in the past as well as in the future you never you will never have existed damn well you gotta be like that old Brian.
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Why you got to do him like that because remember this whole thing of like destroying history and vaporizing people that's why they do it you gotta go you gotta never existed otherwise people are going to be like dude the party is they're they're terrible.
They got martyrs and victims and they can't have that so Brian he is Winston with a new device that straps to his head and a wife says brain numb and now when Winston sees the five fingers he's like okay I'm good now and so Winston is asked if he is any questions and Winston asked about Julia and Brian who turned out to be a double cross agent right.
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Oh Brian's like bro she betrayed you and he's like damn man you know because he was in love with her.
Chapter three Winston still being tortured.
Oh Brian says he actually collaborated in writing Goldstein's the book what that's right.
It's conspiracy on conspiracy on conspiracy. Oh Brian says it was all nonsense.
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There's no way for the trolls to rebel because the party will reign forever and the party seeks power for its own sake.
Not to govern people and tell them what to do necessarily alright he explains it in his little lecture he gives.
Now I will tell you the answer to my question is this the party seeks power entirely for its own sake we're not interested in the good of others we are interested solely in power not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness only power.
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Pure power what pure power means you will understand presently we are different from the oligarchies of the past and what we know what we are doing in that we know what we are doing all the others even those who resembled ourselves were cowards and hypocrites.
The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives.
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They pretended perhaps they even believed that they had seized power unwittingly and for a limited time and that just around the corner their lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal.
We are not like that we know that no one ever sees power with the intention of relinquishing it power is not a means it is an end.
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One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship the object of persecution is persecution the object of torture is torture the object of power is power we are the priests of power he said God is power.
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Illuminate confirmed they want to be gods they don't want to just like big rules they want something beyond that they want to be gods.
And Brian like these last couple chapters like spill all the beans he says you know the party slogan freedom is slavery has it ever occurred to you that it is reversible slavery is freedom alone free the human being is always defeated.
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It must be so because every human being is doomed to die which is the greatest of all failures but if you can make complete utter submission if you can escape from his identity if you can merge himself in the party so that he is the party then he is all powerful any mortal.
The second thing for you to realize is that power is power over human beings over the body but above all over the mind power over matter external reality as you you would call it is not important already our control over matter is absolute.
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We control matter because we control the mind reality is inside the skull you will learn by degrees Winston there is nothing that we could not do invisibility levitation anything I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to I do not wish to because the party does not wish you must get rid of those 19th century ideas about the laws of nature we make the laws of nature.
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Now to say reality is inside the skull is very much referencing the Plato's Republic and the what do you call it the cave the parable of the cave what do they call it it's everything everything is going on is in the mind right they are seeing a movie on the wall of the cave and then the one guy gets out and he is like brother is a whole world out here and everyone in there is like another isn't.
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That's what they are doing they are they are controlling their mind controlling their thoughts controlling reality and this whole idea of freedom of slavery in my interpretation is basically the world economic forms great reset idea you will own nothing and be happy you will be a slave and you will be happy with your freedom.
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Then Brian says the most sort of summarizing explanation of what we need to look for if we worry about this nightmare future and again cold blooded as what he says ours is founded upon hatred in our world there will be no emotions except fear rage triumph and self abacement everything else we shall destroy everything already we are breaking down the habits of thought which have survived from the world.
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Which have survived from before the revolution we have cut the links between child and parent between man and man and between man and woman and this is where a lot of the conspiracy will get into that breakdown of the family structure and this is kind of where that comes from.
No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer but in the future there will be no wives and no friends children will be taken for their mothers at birth as one takes eggs from a hen the sex instinct will be eradicated
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procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card we shall abolish the orgasm our neuro oh no our neurologist are at work upon it now there will be no loyalty except loyalty toward the party there will be no love except the love of big brother there will be no laughter except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy there will be no art no literature no science when we are omn nipotent we shall have no more need of science there will be no choice.
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There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness there will be no curiosity no enjoyment of the process of life all competing pleasures will be destroyed but always do not forget this Winston always there will be the intoxication of power constantly increasing constantly growing subtler
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always at every moment there will be the thrill of victory this sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless if you want a picture of the future imagine a boot stomping on a human face forever.
Oh man I didn't think that I didn't say that right damn I didn't think the what he got sink in the delivery there what he actually says is imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever I guess it's not stomping for some reason I thought stomping now you know are we seeing any of that happening I don't know stay tuned for part three where we'll break it all down
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and Winston he looks in the mirror and he looks you know wrecked and emaciated Orion says look at you we did this to you and guess what your mind is the same sorry ass state this is why Orion gets the big old house in the wine because he breaking
and it's breaking falls down all right next is chapter four they send Winston Winston goes back to Jen pop with the promise that someday they're going to shoot you and end all this it's like okay some to look
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forward to I guess so for weeks or months he's not sure he's doing this thing is kind of brainwashing into this he's trying to lean into this still struggling the book says this he had no difficulty
in disposing of the fallacy and he was in no danger of succumbing to it he realized nevertheless that it ought never to have occurred to him the mind should develop a blind spot whenever a dangerous thought presented itself the process should be automatic
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instinctive crime stop they call it a new speak he said to he said to work to exercise himself in crime stop he presented himself with propositions
the party says the earth is flat I'm not making that out that's what it says in the book the party says the earth is flat the party says that ice is heavier than water and train
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himself and not seeing or not understanding the arguments that contradicted them it was not easy it needed great powers of reasoning and improvisation the
arithmetic or a earth boy the earthmatical problems raised for instance by such a statement as two and two make five or beyond his intellectual grasp
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it needed also a sort of athleticism of mind and ability at one moment to make the most delicate use of logic and at the next to be unconscious of the
crudest logical errors stupidity was as necessary as intelligence and as difficult to attain
so is that flat earth thing a whole side up to see who susceptible to mind control maybe maybe that's what's going on there
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pretty interesting but he's able to winston is able to mentally put himself into that golden pasture that golden country pasture and think about mom and all this stuff
so he's sort of dissociating during this whole torture sequence but he's still missing july still loves her just like he says like they can't take that away
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and they're having a straw to get Winston to go full brainwash and a Brian comes into check all right we're almost done
tell me Winston and remember no lies you know that I'm always able to detect a lie tell me what are your true feelings towards big brother I hate him you hate him good
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the time has come for you to take the last step you must love big brother it is not enough to obey him you must love him
he released Winston with a little push towards the guards room 101 he said uh oh finally we get to room 101 the dreaded room 101 now which O'Brien and we're in chapter five now
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room 101 now which Brian O'Brien tells him this place is the worst thing in the world it's the prisoners greatest fear whatever that is so for Winston it's rats
and they put a salt type contraption of a cage attached to his face with rats in it would you like to play a game and they strap it on and they proceed to do the worst thing ever
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take a listen to this the mask was closing on his face the wire brushed his cheek and then no it was not relief only hope a tiny fragment of hope
too late perhaps too late but he had suddenly understood that in the whole world there was this one person to whom he could transfer his punishment one body that he could thrust between himself and these rats
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and he was shouting frantically over and over do it to Julia do it to Julia not me Julia I don't care what you do to her tear face off stripper to the bones not me Julia not me damn they broke them
remember he was like I will love you forever baby and I was like put I don't want these rats put them on her chapter six I think this is the last chapter last chapter and we're done we made it
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so Winston after snitching and sort of you know conforming he gets out of prison
and he's living the life the party wants just drinking his little gin predictable little schedule at the bar where he plays chess they're always preserving the corner table for him that like this is good for you
he suspects the bar is under charging him because the party surely is facilitating this preferred way of living for Winston because he could be dangerous so they're like let's keep this full pacified
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well Winston he doesn't spend much time thinking on anything anymore and he's writing two plus two equals five on a dusty table he recalls the story of how he saw Julia after their prison or deal and he approached her and there was this cold distance between them and Julia says I betrayed you
and they talk about how they were given this torture that they could transfer to the other person and how it does this weird mental thing that makes you no longer love that other person after you do this
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so the party knew this the whole time they say they should meet again but Winston realizes you're like I don't even care he's not interested anymore
he's more interested in going back to the chestnut tree cafe to drink and play games and he recalls a statement from earlier in the book where it said under the spreading chestnut tree I sold you and you sold me
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and Winston then has a flashback of walking down the torture halls of the ministry of love when we finally figure out why it's called the ministry of love
he was walking down the white tile corridor with the feeling of walking in sunlight and an arm guarded his back the long hoped for bullet was entering his brain he gazed up at the enormous enormous face
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40 years had it taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark mustache a cruel oh cruel needless misunderstanding
oh stubborn self-willed exile from the loving breast two gin-centred tears trickle down the sides of his nose but it was alright everything was alright the struggle was finished
he had won the victory over himself he loved big brother the ministry of love turns out is about loving big brother and loving the state your oppressor
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In the second episode of the 1984 Book Club conspiracy classics, we break down the rest of Orwell's dystopian prophecy and compare it directly to the world we're living in today.
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From mass surveillance and corporate government collusion to psychological control, digital memory holes and media driven double think, 1984 is a blueprint for the dark enlightenment.
Is Big Brother now Big Tech? Are we living through two minutes of hate on our feeds every day? The parallels will shock you and they're hiding in plain sight. Join me as we continue our journey through the reddest pill of them all.
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Now for some reason, you're stumbling upon this episode. This is part two of our 1984 Book Club. You're going to want to go listen to part one.
We're going to go listen to part one, we went through part one of the book. There's three parts of 1984 Book. We covered part one in episode one and now we're going to cover part two and three in episode two.
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And then stay subscribed because we're coming back with episode number three where we talk about who George Orwell was and we see if in fact we're living through a 1984 dark enlightenment.
Plot spoiler, probably so. Probably so. So, you know, and I'm just picking up where Alex Jones left us all behind. You know, he used to be the guy that warned us of all this stuff and I'm apparently he says everything's great now.
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I don't believe that because I read this book and now I'm fired up. Okay. So I got a lot to read to you today and this is the second part. The first part was a lot of reading.
But it's important because I'm going to get you to this book in less than two hours. And the book, like I said in part one, it's fine.
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I mean, I struggle with fictional books anyway, but I find it to be kind of boring. So I'm going to try to just give you the bare essentials of what's going on so we can have a educated conversation in part three. All right. Let's go.
So we are in 1984 we're in part two of the book chapter one.
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He wins in our protagonist. He hooks up with the dark hair and one. You know, the one that's he was talking about he wanted the slice of throw while she was bustin nuts. What?
And this woman's been following him. And now he wants to hook up with her. Because remember at the end of part one of the book, he went and rented an apartment that doesn't have a tele screen like he's going off grid sort of right.
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Because he was struggling with this idea of rebelling against the system. He really doesn't trust big brother. And he's like man, something's wrong here, something right. And he goes to rent an apartment because he wants to sort of, you know, dabble.
So him and old girl with the dark hair, they got to keep this thing on the DL, right.
And they suggest the reading suggests like she could be some kind of intel agent in my personal opinion when I read it. So I'm like, trust this lady. I don't know.
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She covertly gives Winston a photo of paper that says I love you. And they do this very secretly. They have to make sure the tele screens don't see any of this because we talked a little bit about
the idea of sex in the world of 1984 and has to be expected they looked out upon it, right. Anything that restricts the ranges of consciousness, that's what big brothers about.
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They're like no fun, sexy time, no words, right. All these words are expanding your range of consciousness. We got to keep you stupid and uneducated.
That's their goal because if you're uneducated, they could fill your head with nonsense conspiracy theories, if you will.
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So that's chapter one. And chapter two, Winston and Julia, we finally get dark hair's name. Her name is Julia.
Winston and Julia, they they they've been messing around. They finally get it in their, they're sneaking out to the countryside. His wrist game is ultra strong. He says, I hated the sight of you.
I wanted to our AP EU and then murder you afterwards.
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Two weeks ago, I thought of seriously smashing your head in with a cobblestone. If you really want to know, I imagine that you had something to do with the thought police.
The girl laughed delightedly, evidently taking this as a tribute to the excellence of her disguise.
Not the thought police. You didn't honestly think that.
Yeah, my man's a weirdo dude. I don't know how he ended up getting any chick to hang out with him, but here we are.
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Apologies for my voice. I'm an extra Alex Jonesy today at the cross it. We did a high intensity workout. And I know I got Fran cough.
So this ought to be fun. My apologies in advance, but I got to get done. I got to get this episode recorded. All right.
So Julia, she works with a bunch of spies, turns out she does have intel connections.
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She works with the junior anti sex league. This is all like government propaganda stuff. Big brother.
And at the end of the chapter, he Winston says how all the emotions get mixed together and they don't have a pure emotion like love.
And this is very much like that range of consciousness thing. It's reducing the number of words we use.
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It's a very utilitarian. I would dare I say tech bro fantasy.
Lack of emotions, lack of empathy. That's what they're all about.
Okay. And they say that having sex is actually a political statement for our main character for Winston.
And he's basically saying, look, I control my body. I control my sexy time. Not you big brother. F off.
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So now we're in chapter three. Winston and Julia, they agreed to keep me up, but they got to keep changing up the locations and so on when they meet up to keep a secret.
Julia, we find out 26 Winston is 39.
They're it's given my boy Leo de caprio. All right.
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You know Leo's great. I anyway, Julia where I was at the defend my man Leo, you know, he's hanging out of daddy parties. He's he's messing around with girls in their 20s. I'm like, come on Leo.
Get it together, buddy.
Julia works in the fiction department writing novels.
And in the porn O sec.
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The cause of my retarded out porn O sec and part one making porn O for the pearls of the proletarians.
And she was making titles like spanking stories.
When I read you from the book, he learned with astonishment that all the workers in porn O sec except the heads of the departments were girls.
The theory was that men whose sex instincts were less controllable than those of women were in greater danger of being corrupted by the filth they handled.
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They don't even like having married women there she added girls are always supposed to be pure.
Here's one who isn't anyway.
Then we move on and this is kind of an important part of the book here. They talk about.
How they're indoctrinated to believe sex should be done not for pleasure not for love but for duty to the party which I asserted in part one that's kind of Elon Musk talks right.
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Elon's talking about like oh we need to make children for the future of this country.
How is that much different?
Tell me how that's much different.
Okay.
Because in 1984 it's like the whole idea of 1984 you know to give you a little sneak peek is adoration of your your government slave master.
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Adoration for big brother for the party.
So everything you do needs to be thinking of them you're supposed to be having sex like oh yeah this is for our president or whatever you know like it's crazy bill.
The party the government thought that sex perversion ends up in creating hysteria.
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And when you make love you feel good and relaxed so they are suppressing the sex drive in order to steer that energy into the party.
And the majority of the book says unlike Winston she had grasped the inner meaning of the party's sexual puritanism.
It was not merely that the sex instinct created a world of its own which was outside the party's control and which therefore had to be destroyed if possible.
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What was more important was that sexual private privation induced hysteria which was desirable because it could be transformed into war fever and leader worship.
But it was when you make love you're using up energy and afterwards you feel happy and don't give a damn for anything.
They can't bear you to feel like that they want you to be bursting with energy all the time.
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All this marching up and down and cheering and waving flags is simply sex on sour.
If you're happy inside yourself why should you get excited about big brother in the three year plans and the two minutes of hate and all the rest of their bloody rot.
That was very true he thought there was a direct intimate connection between chastity and political orthodoxy.
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Further how could the fear the hatred and the lunatic credulity which the party needed in its members be kept at the right pitch except by bottling down some powerful instinct and using it as a driving force.
The sex impulse was dangerous to the party and the party had turned it to account.
They had played a similar trick with the instinct of parenthood. The family could not actually be abolished and indeed people were encouraged to be fond of their children in almost the old fashioned way.
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The children on the other hand who we learn about in part one being snitches were systematically turned against their parents and taught to spy on them and report their deviations.
The family had become in effect an extension of the thought police.
It was a device by means of which everyone could be surrounded night and day by informers who knew him intimately.
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This is like the idea David Ike talks about in I believe it's freedom road he talks about the prison without the bars and how it's easier to control us by having us police ourselves.
I think he describes it as if there's one wolf you can kind of corral the sheep with one wolf but not that well if there's too many sheep.
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So what you got to do is program the sheep to warn each other to be like hey don't go over there don't do this don't do that don't do that don't do that.
And that's kind of that's kind of what what this future looks like and the sexual puritanism is kind of like very hand I don't know I never I shouldn't say that.
I've only seen a couple episodes of handmaid stale but it sounds kind of like that I could be wrong about how they depict sex.
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But think about this it's you know there's all these reports of studies about how the amount of sex people are having is going down and you've got this prominence of in cells and in cells.
I mean predominantly lean one way right and it could be that they're taking advantage of that sex drive this is probably some kind of Freudian cycle analysis.
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But my point is is that 1984 they were talking about this exact idea.
I will talk more in part three.
So we finally find out why these kids are snitches the children are turning against their parents so that they could become an extension of the thought police in order to snitch on each other which is very much what David I talked about right.
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So it now we're in chapter four Winston and Julia they're using the room that Winston's renting to you know sexy time.
They talk about how they love real coffee and real food because they can't get that in their 1984 world their vociana they hate the party they hate big brother oh dear coffee I do hate big brother maybe maybe I'm in 1984.
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Then we're in chapter five remember sign me I never did know how to say his name I didn't even bother looking it up my apologies s. Y. M. E.
He was the guy that was writing that new speak dictionary remember he was like oh see me gray we're going to reduce the number of words and it's such a waste for people to have all these flowery words.
Well he's gone vaporized it's murder.
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Ja Role selling up at the 1984 book club yeah he's gone see you see you never loser what do you do.
And we find out that the government's prepping for hate week all right because remember in the first part we talked about two minutes of hate where they they show that goldstein guy the rebellion dude and everyone's like we hate him and it's supposed to sort of as we learned redirect the sexual energy into hatred of the enemy.
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Which therefore makes use to port of your government big brother so they're prepping for a thing called hate week you know like haters ball they got the haters ball I hate you I hate you I don't even know you.
And they have a new song called the hate song right and you know Julia starts talking about fake news and again this 1984 written in 1949 back then no one doubted the news at all.
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So like that's pretty telling that because today's news on the left and the right you know fake news all around it's all bought paid for by billionaires I'm not saying that everything the news says is alive not I'm not saying that at all.
But but I am saying that they filter everything through a bias they choose to omit certain stories they choose to make certain stories the top headline and it's all feeding the narratives of stoking a two party system right which I'm against vehemently against.
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I'm registered unaffiliated I vote third party often and yeah I just think that the two party system is just a way of leveraging that Haguey and dialect.
Save this for part three got a lot to get through.
And Winston's trying to tell her the media is.
Charge to call out other countries as enemies and how they abolish the past listen to what said here.
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In some ways she was far more acute than Winston and far less susceptible to party propaganda.
Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening because remember Winston lives in Oceana there's only a few continents and Eurasia is a different continent they're told they're the enemy and they're supposed to hate them right.
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The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the government of Oceana itself just to keep people frightened.
This was an idea that had literally never occurred to him.
She also stirred a sort of envy in him by telling him that during the two minutes of hate her great difficulty was to avoid bursting out laughing.
She's like ultra OG granola woke right she not falling for this nonsense.
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The whole time Winston is like I don't know I kind of don't think it's true he's more like me.
I don't know man something's weird as she's already down the rabbit hole she's like bitch please.
It's all fake news.
But she only questioned the teachings of the party when they in some way touched upon her own life.
Often she was ready to accept the official mythology simply because the difference between truth and falsehood did not seem important to her.
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She believed for instance having learned it at school that the party had invented aeroplanes.
In his own school days Winston remembered in the late 50s it was only the helicopter that the party claimed to have invented.
Doesn't years later when Julia was at school it was already claiming the aeroplane one generation more and it would be claiming the steam engine.
Because you remember bar one Winston at this whole thing of like dude I know the government didn't invent a plane it's been around long before that.
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And when he told her that aeroplanes had been in existence before he was born and long before the revolution the fact struck her as totally uninteresting.
After all what did it matter who invented aeroplanes it was rather more of a shock to him when he discovered from some chance remark that she did not remember that oh she had a four years ago had been a war with East Asia and at peace with Eurasia.
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It was true that she regarded the whole war as a sham but apparently she had not even noticed that the name of the enemy had changed.
I thought we'd always been at war with Eurasia she said vaguely. It frightened him a little.
The invention of aeroplanes dated from long before her birth but the switch over in the war had happened only four years ago.
Well after she was grown up.
He argued with her about it for perhaps a quarter of an hour.
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In the end he succeeded in forcing her memory back until she did dimly recall that at one time East Asia and not Eurasia had been the enemy.
But the issue still struck her as unimportant. Who cared she said impatiently.
It's always one bloody war after another and one knows the news is all lies anyway.
Sounds very reminiscent right.
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The news is so manipulated that it almost renders it useless and that's the struggle of these people out there like I don't even know what's real anymore and I feel that pain too.
I wish I grew up in the 50s and 60s with Walter Cronkite and I was just like yeah that's what happened sounds good buddy.
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Nowadays you got to consume ten different sources and put it through filters and be like okay what bias is what.
Chapter six.
O'Brien remember he's the inner party guy.
He starts recruiting Winston into the rebellion and he's talking smack about Simon.
He's sort of like signaling right so you know.
And in the book they talk about the process of rebellion and there's a process that they view this rebellion as why they have a thought police and you can't think these things because thoughts lead to writing which lead to action.
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Okay. And the book it says he knew that sooner or later he would obey O'Brien summons perhaps tomorrow perhaps after a long delay he was not certain what was happening was only the working.
Out of a process that had started years ago the first step had been a secret involuntary thought the second had been the opening of the diary he had moved from thoughts to words and now from words to actions.
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The last step was something that would happen in the Ministry of Love he had accepted it the end was contained in the beginning.
Because Mary wrote that diary was like down with big brother right he was thinking it and then he wrote it down and now look at look at this guy trying to get him in the rebellion.
Chapter seven.
When's it keeps having dreams about his mother in this golden country pasture that kind of matters later.
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For some reason my brain goes the the Elisinian fields I don't know.
Do that what you will and he talks about how if they get caught you know falling around their cooked there's good as dead they know this.
And they talk in the book of the all they're going to torture us they're going to they're going to you know forces to confess Winston says.
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Hey the party can't make me not love you it's it's the one thing they can't do right I can always love you I can say this I can say that the love will always be there.
Hold that hold the beer okay.
And any any basically is on his like you think I'm going to say things but you don't have to believe it right they can make you they can't get inside you enough to make you believe things you can say whatever okay.
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All right let's keep that energy up when you're in the torture room Winston chapter eight they go to a Brian's house and he's like look I can turn off these tele screens.
It's our drop in knowledge because you know that because they're trying to recruit Winston into the rebellion okay shall I say it or will you he said I will say it said Winston probably that thing is really turned off yes everything is turned off we are alone.
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We have come here because he paused realizing for the first time the vagueness of his own motives since he did not in fact know what kind of help he expected from a Brian it was not easy to say why he had come here.
He went on conscious that what he was saying must sound both feeble and pretentious.
We believe that there is some kind of conspiracy some kind of secret organization working against the party and that you are involved with it.
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We want to join it and work for it we are enemies of the party we disbelieve in the principles of in sock.
We are thought criminals we are also adulterers I tell you this because we want to put ourselves at your mercy if you want us to incriminate ourselves in any other way we are ready.
So now oh Brian's like I bet you know real recognize real.
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I don't Brian introduces at this point Winston and Julia into the resistance the rebellion okay.
I think they call it the brotherhood which is confusing because you got big brother as the government aka the party now you have the brotherhood which is the rebellion.
They start drinking some wine they never heard of wine and this is part of the restricting consciousness right get rid of drugs any kind of mind expanding hallucinogens alcohol anything right.
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It's a virgin which I don't get like what they can get drunk off gin they can drink drink the wine I don't really get it.
And oh Brian's like hey you ready to die for this and of course they're like hell yeah bro and he gives them the book right and the book is written by Goldstein that's the guy that they all hate as the two minutes of hate guy the haters ball that are like hey hey hey hey hey hey.
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Well he wrote a book and the book reveals the truth it talks about controlling the people all right listen to this and the book he says.
Excuse me he filled the glasses and raised his own glass by the stem what shall it be this time he said still with the same faint suggestion of irony to the confusion of the thought police to the death of big brother to humanity to the future to the past said Winston the past is more important.
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Agreed O'Brien gravely done done done okay chapter nine.
And this chapter is massive and it's probably the one that needs the most attention appropriately so and I would argue that this was Orson Wells aim for this whole book is just to say this chapter to everyone okay so it's kind of important.
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Pay attention locking folks this hate week thing it's coming to an end and it was of course full of hate on your Asia the enemy the new enemy and they're hanging war criminals and so on and the party switches it up and they say oh you know what we've always been allies with your agent it's East Asia were beefing with it's always been East Asia straight up lion right to their faces and the the brain dead sheep are like you know what you're right.
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You know what I like what you're saying I agree it has always been East Asia huh.
It's like it's incredible right.
Winston he read the book which is titled the theory and practice of all a garcol collectivism alright.
And the chapters have interesting titles ignorance is strength and war is peace which are the party slogan so it's deliberately unpacking each talking point like like war is peace okay.
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This is how deep deep back says.
In one combination or another these three super states are permanently a war and have been so for the past 25 years war however is no longer the desperate annihilating struggle that it was in the early decades of the 20th century.
It is a warfare of limited limited aims between combatants who are unable to destroy one another having no material calls for fighting and are not divided by any genuine ideological difference.
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This is not to say that either the conduct of war or the prevailing attitude towards it has become less blood thirsty or more chivalrous.
On the contrary war hysteria is continuous and universal in all countries and such acts as our API and G looting the slaughter of children the reduction of whole populations to slavery and reprisals against prisoners which extend even to boiling and burying alive.
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I looked upon as normal and when they are committed by one's own side and not by the enemy meritorious but in a physical sense war involves very small numbers of people mostly highly trained specialist and causes comparatively few casualties which I mean that kind of sounds like how war is done today.
If you watch G.I. Joe, I watch G.I. Joe growing up like heavily and they're always shooting at each other the red and the blue bullets and like no one ever dies.
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No one ever dies.
Not saying that they should I'm just saying like that's how it goes.
The primary aim of modern warfare in accordance with the principles of double think this aim is simultaneously recognized and not recognized by the directing brains of the inner party is to use up the products of the machine without raising the general standard of living without raising the general standard of living.
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Ever since the end of the 19th century the problem of what to do with the surplus of consumption goods has been latent in industrial society.
Now double think it's explained later in the chapter better I'm going to explain I'm going to redo that part now because you got to understand what he's saying here.
To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them to forget any fact that has become inconvenient and then when it becomes necessary again to draw back from oblivion for just so long as it's needed to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies all this is indispensable necessary.
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Even in using the word double think is necessary to exercise double think.
And the idea is that they're blatantly lying and they're I mean just pull stuff out of their butt to convince you to follow their agenda.
It's like how um you know certain people ran for positions to expose the Epstein list and then now it's like not I just a hoax just fake news and we're everyone's like what are you talking about.
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And it's like hey there's no video camera footage of Epstein sell then they're like hey we got footage of Epstein sell what.
And then they're like oh but it's missing a minute just getting here's a minute it's like bro this is crazy because they want full and utter adoration and idolization of the party.
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And to just support whatever it is they say.
And then they're like what are you talking about?
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The book also talks about the cycles of humanity always running with the elites and the pours you know your high middle low class in the middle class eventually over throws the high class and then they they become the high class while the low class the polls always stay poor.
And the party was able to make sure that the middle class could never do this that they can never achieve power or wealth and of course the low class polls they stay distracted so they don't even want any of these things.
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And the book says this under this lies a fact never mentioned allowed but tacitly understood and acted upon namely that the conditions of life in all three super states are very much the same.
No she and the prevailing philosophy is called in sock in your age it's called neo bullshivism and in East Asia it is called by a Chinese name usually translated as death worship but perhaps better rendered as obliteration of the self.
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The citizen of ocean is not allowed to know anything of the tenants of the other two philosophies but he's taught to ex exe create them as barbarous outrages upon morality and common sense.
Actually the three philosophies are barely distinguishable and the social systems which they support are not distinguishable at all.
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Everywhere there is the same pyramid structure the same worship of semi divine leader the same economy existing by and for continuous warfare.
It follows that the three super states not only cannot conquer one another but would gain no advantage by doing so.
And this makes me think about how confusing it is to hear about how you know fascism the worst thing ever communism the worst thing ever and they're both on opposite ends of the spectrum.
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One's heavy right one's heavy left yet they both end up identical with the totalitarian government dictator and you know oppressive regimes that never leave the office right.
And double think is about accepting contradictions that the party presents like wars peace which bill Cooper talked about the idea of keeping sovereignty through a strong military which I believe mostly saw like maybe I'm brainwashed.
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It says the essential act of war is destruction not necessarily of human lives but of the products of human labor wars a way of shattering to pieces or pouring into this stratosphere or sinking in the depths of the sea.
And the materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable and hence in the long run too intelligent boom boom boom.
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Too educated and this is why I'm always like man I support education no matter how that looks.
Just don't go into debt unless you can unless you can you know make that up over a lifetime of wages doing a better job.
But to just to just what I don't like about the conspiracy movement is this idea of.
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Craping on the idea of college of higher education of reading of consuming the news like it turns into real black pill territory and it it ends up being like well the only person you should listen to is me.
Not only one you should listen to you know college is just indoctrination and I get it like there's very much like leftist dances that you can consume in some colleges that's not that was in my case well maybe it was.
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Maybe it was to be fair.
But that doesn't make it wrong okay the whole thing I had learned in college in every course I took in fact my my senior thesis was.
The class I took right before it was like this whole idea of continuing education after college and the importance of lifelong learning like that was a major theme in college was you got to keep learning that's why I started the illuminati watcher blog forever ago.
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Because I was just used to reading researching regurgitating and you you kind of become condition for it and addicted to it in a way so after like six years of doing that like drinking from a fire hose about engineering mathematics and philosophy and all my generals that I took.
I didn't it felt weird like I remember I got them a school and I had a two year break before I started grad school and I was like well now what do I do and I started learning Texas Holden miles playing poker online which you could do back then I don't know if you can anymore but it was banned for a long time.
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I was playing penny like I mean I'm talking like I low twenty bucks in there and make it last a month or two.
The hell maybe even longer and I just thought well this is kind of a waste I just felt like a waste of me it wasn't enriching so anyway like colleges what gave me that because I was a real dumb I mean I wasn't ever I'm not a stupid human being like I was always pretty good at comprehension and reading and all that stuff.
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But like I'm not I was a lot dumber before college that's a fact that's a total fact anyway the point is the party the system the oppressors love the uneducated they love it because then they then the because as human beings we crave truth and we look for information right.
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And if they're like hey don't trust none of these people but you can listen to us we got this you know this platform will tell you what to think they love that.
So Winston is reading all of this from the book from Goldstein's the book and Julia realizes like oh snap there's a tele screen behind a picture on your wall.
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Uh oh it's the thought police that's right this apartment he was writing turns out fake news there they were they had a tele screen the whole time that's not good.
They were voyeying the whole time part three look at we're cruising right along chapter one part three Winston's in lockup right.
And he thinks he may be in the ministry of love with a bunch of other thought prisoners they don't really detail but they basically get arrested because the the tele screens excuse me.
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Perhaps maybe his own mothers in there because he's dreaming about his mom right.
And O'Brien said they don't save any rebellion folks to get caught but what they will do in the brotherhood in the rebellion they're going to send you a razor so you can you know Epstein out.
And knowing the very beginning of the book Winston talks about how hard it is to get razors and shoelaces which are you know the primary weapons for the Epstein treatment in the prisons.
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Now chapter eight of part chapter eight part two O'Brien talks to Winston listen to this he says we never help our members at most when it is absolutely necessary that someone be silenced we're occasionally able to smuggle a razor blade into a prisoner cell you will have to get used to living without results and without hope you will work for a while you will be caught you will confess and then you'll die those are the only results that you will ever see there's no possibility that.
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That's where it cuts off.
I should have cut that last sense off sorry those are the only results that you will ever see.
So Winston he's in there and he sees a poet he knows named ample fourth and ample fourth is getting dragged to this room 101 which I found to be interesting symbolism here because we saw room 101 in the matrix.
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In the Nostek prison sense this is similar right they're both trapped in a trapped in hell.
And Neil is the one right he was the neo fight the one to change it all.
So I'm thinking in the book I'm like is Winston going to be the one is he going to be one that breaks down the big brother.
We're going to find out one of course being the foundational number.
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So Winston he sees old his neighbor Parsons in there and you know even he was a real loyal guy to the party what happened.
You didn't hear much about Parsons I cut out a lot of the stuff in the book.
Well what happened was Parsons daughter snitched on them do these damn kids worship Parsons is glad that he got turned in.
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He's like oh man you know I was worried I was going to get to rebellious I was saying you know I was in his sleep he was saying down with big brother that was enough to get him arrested but he's all thank goodness they stopped me before I went too far.
They're all cucks for the government.
O'Brien comes in and we find out that he got arrested a long time ago so now it's like wait a minute what.
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Okay chapter two Winston he's getting tortured he's getting beat up he starts admitting to stuff like he's like oh I'm sorry yes I admire capitalism I love sex you know.
But not all the crimes that he's accused of so they're like you're going to confess to all the crimes full so they take him to a torture room and I thought I was confused because I thought the torture room was room 101 but it's not okay.
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They hear a different torture room and strangely enough O'Brien's in there and he's now orchestrating torture electrical stuff.
Zappin and he keeps wanting Winston to confess to all these conspiracies that he believed her wrong stuff like how he saw the photo evidence that he would have when he was burning things of the ministry of truth all this you know his thoughts about the airplane all that stuff.
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And Winston he starts singing rage against the machine I'm just joking this is what he says in the book there's a party slogan dealing with the control of the past he said.
Repeat it if you please.
And he says who controls the past controls the future who controls the present controls the past repeated Winston obediently who controls the present controls the past said O'Brien nodding his head with slow approval.
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Is it your opinion Winston that the past has real existence they debate what the past is at this point but O'Brien tells him what's up he says Winston that reality is not external reality exist in the human mind no where else not in the individual mind which can make mistakes and in any case soon parishes only in the mind of the party which is collective any mortal whatever the party holds to be truth is truth it is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the party.
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That is the fact that you have to relearn Winston.
Then O'Brien he he's gone you know big speech do you remember he went on writing in your diary freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two makes four.
Yes said Winston O'Brien held his left hand it's back towards Winston with the thumb hidden in four fingers extended how many fingers my whole up Winston or.
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And the party says that is not four but five then how many.
Four.
Oh he's being a brat you're being a bad beat up the brat beat up the breath.
With the baseball.
O'Brien he keeps.
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I'm trying to I'm trying to jazz this out folks I mean I know I don't normally do that I got to jazz it up because it's kind of boring content but this last part is the best part of the whole book alright.
And we're getting real close.
So O'Brien keeps torturing Winston he's like bro you got to say the five fingers thing and I'm holding up four fingers you're going to say five fingers he keeps doing that.
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And then he drops the coldest thing ever I'm trying not to swear because I'm trying to build my YouTube here he drops the coldest line ever on Winston listen to this.
The first thing for you to understand is that in this place there are no martyrdoms you have read of the religious persecutions of the past in the middle ages there was the inquisition it was a failure.
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It's set out to eradicate heresy and ended by perpetuating it for every heretic it burned at the stake thousands of others rose up why was that because the inquisition killed its enemies in the open and killed them while they were still unrepentant in fact it killed them because they were unrepentant.
Men were dying because they would not abandon their true beliefs naturally all the glory belonged to the victim and all the shame to the inquisitor who burned him later in the 20th century they were called they were the total they were the totalitarians as they were called they were the German Nazis and the Russian Communists the Russians persecuted heresy more cruelly than the inquisition had done.
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And they had imagined that they had learned from the mistakes of the past they knew at any rate that one must not make martyrs because they exposed their victims to public trial they deliberately set themselves to destroy their dignity they wore them down by torture and solitude until they were despicable cringing when wrenches confessing whatever was put into their mouths covering themselves with abuse accusing and sheltering behind one another whimpering from mercy.
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Yet after only a few years the same thing had happened over again the dead men had become martyrs and their degradation was forgotten once again why was it in the first place because the confessions that they had made were obviously extorted and untrue we do not make mistakes of that kind all the confessions that are uttered here are true we make them true and above all we do not allow the dead to rise up against us.
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You must stop imagining that posterity will vindicate you Winston posterity will never hear of you you will be lifted clean out of the stream of history we shall turn you into gas pour you into the stratosphere nothing more remain of you not a name and a register not a memory and a living brain you will be annihilated in the past as well as in the future you never you will never have existed damn well you gotta be like that old Brian.
(45:21):
Why you got to do him like that because remember this whole thing of like destroying history and vaporizing people that's why they do it you gotta go you gotta never existed otherwise people are going to be like dude the party is they're they're terrible.
They got martyrs and victims and they can't have that so Brian he is Winston with a new device that straps to his head and a wife says brain numb and now when Winston sees the five fingers he's like okay I'm good now and so Winston is asked if he is any questions and Winston asked about Julia and Brian who turned out to be a double cross agent right.
(46:06):
Oh Brian's like bro she betrayed you and he's like damn man you know because he was in love with her.
Chapter three Winston still being tortured.
Oh Brian says he actually collaborated in writing Goldstein's the book what that's right.
It's conspiracy on conspiracy on conspiracy. Oh Brian says it was all nonsense.
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There's no way for the trolls to rebel because the party will reign forever and the party seeks power for its own sake.
Not to govern people and tell them what to do necessarily alright he explains it in his little lecture he gives.
Now I will tell you the answer to my question is this the party seeks power entirely for its own sake we're not interested in the good of others we are interested solely in power not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness only power.
(47:02):
Pure power what pure power means you will understand presently we are different from the oligarchies of the past and what we know what we are doing in that we know what we are doing all the others even those who resembled ourselves were cowards and hypocrites.
The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives.
(47:26):
They pretended perhaps they even believed that they had seized power unwittingly and for a limited time and that just around the corner their lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal.
We are not like that we know that no one ever sees power with the intention of relinquishing it power is not a means it is an end.
(47:48):
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship the object of persecution is persecution the object of torture is torture the object of power is power we are the priests of power he said God is power.
(48:11):
Illuminate confirmed they want to be gods they don't want to just like big rules they want something beyond that they want to be gods.
And Brian like these last couple chapters like spill all the beans he says you know the party slogan freedom is slavery has it ever occurred to you that it is reversible slavery is freedom alone free the human being is always defeated.
(48:37):
It must be so because every human being is doomed to die which is the greatest of all failures but if you can make complete utter submission if you can escape from his identity if you can merge himself in the party so that he is the party then he is all powerful any mortal.
The second thing for you to realize is that power is power over human beings over the body but above all over the mind power over matter external reality as you you would call it is not important already our control over matter is absolute.
(49:12):
We control matter because we control the mind reality is inside the skull you will learn by degrees Winston there is nothing that we could not do invisibility levitation anything I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to I do not wish to because the party does not wish you must get rid of those 19th century ideas about the laws of nature we make the laws of nature.
(49:39):
Now to say reality is inside the skull is very much referencing the Plato's Republic and the what do you call it the cave the parable of the cave what do they call it it's everything everything is going on is in the mind right they are seeing a movie on the wall of the cave and then the one guy gets out and he is like brother is a whole world out here and everyone in there is like another isn't.
(50:06):
That's what they are doing they are they are controlling their mind controlling their thoughts controlling reality and this whole idea of freedom of slavery in my interpretation is basically the world economic forms great reset idea you will own nothing and be happy you will be a slave and you will be happy with your freedom.
(50:30):
Then Brian says the most sort of summarizing explanation of what we need to look for if we worry about this nightmare future and again cold blooded as what he says ours is founded upon hatred in our world there will be no emotions except fear rage triumph and self abacement everything else we shall destroy everything already we are breaking down the habits of thought which have survived from the world.
(50:59):
Which have survived from before the revolution we have cut the links between child and parent between man and man and between man and woman and this is where a lot of the conspiracy will get into that breakdown of the family structure and this is kind of where that comes from.
No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer but in the future there will be no wives and no friends children will be taken for their mothers at birth as one takes eggs from a hen the sex instinct will be eradicated
(51:27):
procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card we shall abolish the orgasm our neuro oh no our neurologist are at work upon it now there will be no loyalty except loyalty toward the party there will be no love except the love of big brother there will be no laughter except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy there will be no art no literature no science when we are omn nipotent we shall have no more need of science there will be no choice.
(51:55):
There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness there will be no curiosity no enjoyment of the process of life all competing pleasures will be destroyed but always do not forget this Winston always there will be the intoxication of power constantly increasing constantly growing subtler
(52:17):
always at every moment there will be the thrill of victory this sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless if you want a picture of the future imagine a boot stomping on a human face forever.
Oh man I didn't think that I didn't say that right damn I didn't think the what he got sink in the delivery there what he actually says is imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever I guess it's not stomping for some reason I thought stomping now you know are we seeing any of that happening I don't know stay tuned for part three where we'll break it all down
(52:55):
and Winston he looks in the mirror and he looks you know wrecked and emaciated Orion says look at you we did this to you and guess what your mind is the same sorry ass state this is why Orion gets the big old house in the wine because he breaking
and it's breaking falls down all right next is chapter four they send Winston Winston goes back to Jen pop with the promise that someday they're going to shoot you and end all this it's like okay some to look
(53:30):
forward to I guess so for weeks or months he's not sure he's doing this thing is kind of brainwashing into this he's trying to lean into this still struggling the book says this he had no difficulty
in disposing of the fallacy and he was in no danger of succumbing to it he realized nevertheless that it ought never to have occurred to him the mind should develop a blind spot whenever a dangerous thought presented itself the process should be automatic
(53:58):
instinctive crime stop they call it a new speak he said to he said to work to exercise himself in crime stop he presented himself with propositions
the party says the earth is flat I'm not making that out that's what it says in the book the party says the earth is flat the party says that ice is heavier than water and train
(54:21):
himself and not seeing or not understanding the arguments that contradicted them it was not easy it needed great powers of reasoning and improvisation the
arithmetic or a earth boy the earthmatical problems raised for instance by such a statement as two and two make five or beyond his intellectual grasp
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it needed also a sort of athleticism of mind and ability at one moment to make the most delicate use of logic and at the next to be unconscious of the
crudest logical errors stupidity was as necessary as intelligence and as difficult to attain
so is that flat earth thing a whole side up to see who susceptible to mind control maybe maybe that's what's going on there
(55:11):
pretty interesting but he's able to winston is able to mentally put himself into that golden pasture that golden country pasture and think about mom and all this stuff
so he's sort of dissociating during this whole torture sequence but he's still missing july still loves her just like he says like they can't take that away
(55:34):
and they're having a straw to get Winston to go full brainwash and a Brian comes into check all right we're almost done
tell me Winston and remember no lies you know that I'm always able to detect a lie tell me what are your true feelings towards big brother I hate him you hate him good
(55:55):
the time has come for you to take the last step you must love big brother it is not enough to obey him you must love him
he released Winston with a little push towards the guards room 101 he said uh oh finally we get to room 101 the dreaded room 101 now which O'Brien and we're in chapter five now
(56:18):
room 101 now which Brian O'Brien tells him this place is the worst thing in the world it's the prisoners greatest fear whatever that is so for Winston it's rats
and they put a salt type contraption of a cage attached to his face with rats in it would you like to play a game and they strap it on and they proceed to do the worst thing ever
(56:43):
take a listen to this the mask was closing on his face the wire brushed his cheek and then no it was not relief only hope a tiny fragment of hope
too late perhaps too late but he had suddenly understood that in the whole world there was this one person to whom he could transfer his punishment one body that he could thrust between himself and these rats
(57:10):
and he was shouting frantically over and over do it to Julia do it to Julia not me Julia I don't care what you do to her tear face off stripper to the bones not me Julia not me damn they broke them
remember he was like I will love you forever baby and I was like put I don't want these rats put them on her chapter six I think this is the last chapter last chapter and we're done we made it
(57:42):
so Winston after snitching and sort of you know conforming he gets out of prison
and he's living the life the party wants just drinking his little gin predictable little schedule at the bar where he plays chess they're always preserving the corner table for him that like this is good for you
he suspects the bar is under charging him because the party surely is facilitating this preferred way of living for Winston because he could be dangerous so they're like let's keep this full pacified
(58:13):
well Winston he doesn't spend much time thinking on anything anymore and he's writing two plus two equals five on a dusty table he recalls the story of how he saw Julia after their prison or deal and he approached her and there was this cold distance between them and Julia says I betrayed you
and they talk about how they were given this torture that they could transfer to the other person and how it does this weird mental thing that makes you no longer love that other person after you do this
(58:44):
so the party knew this the whole time they say they should meet again but Winston realizes you're like I don't even care he's not interested anymore
he's more interested in going back to the chestnut tree cafe to drink and play games and he recalls a statement from earlier in the book where it said under the spreading chestnut tree I sold you and you sold me
(59:10):
and Winston then has a flashback of walking down the torture halls of the ministry of love when we finally figure out why it's called the ministry of love
he was walking down the white tile corridor with the feeling of walking in sunlight and an arm guarded his back the long hoped for bullet was entering his brain he gazed up at the enormous enormous face
(59:31):
40 years had it taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark mustache a cruel oh cruel needless misunderstanding
oh stubborn self-willed exile from the loving breast two gin-centred tears trickle down the sides of his nose but it was alright everything was alright the struggle was finished
he had won the victory over himself he loved big brother the ministry of love turns out is about loving big brother and loving the state your oppressor
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