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On today's episode of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture with Isaac Weishaupt podcast we’ll cover the occult symbolism of Netflix’s KPOP Demon Hunters! We’ll talk about symbolism of Saturn, Chaos Magick, mantras, alchemy of the Golden Honmoon, opposing polarities concepts “when darkness finally meets light”, occult geometry, Faustian bargains, and the power of approaching one’s shadow
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The record breaking Netflix film K-Pop Demon Hunters is encoded within a

(00:04):
cocktail of spiritual evolution and today I'll break it down for you as we decode
Saturn, chaos and the golden Hanmoon as symbolism for the new gold
native of connected into Korean shamanism, theosophy, the Pleiades, and even Stephen
King's it to reveal how this film is showing us a metaphysical war between
light and dark through the opposing polarities of male and female with music as
a weapon. My name is Isaac Wiseop. I've been covering hidden-accal messages and

(00:26):
pop cultures since 2014 and you're listening to the accult symbolism in
the podcast.
You know I just run with it. Sometimes I can I can wrap and fire those
intras out and it's smooth as butter and sometimes you know I don't and I
leave it in there because I'm just a I'm just a guy in his room.

(00:50):
Today we're gonna cover the accult symbolism of K-Pop Demon Hunters and it's
gonna be real interesting because we're gonna cover a lot of the themes
that we've covered over the years Saturn, chaos, magic, mantras, the power of the
spoken word alchemy, goat and with the bobbins.

(01:10):
You know you'll hear a phrase in the movie when darkness finally meets light
that's goat with the bobs, goat and with the bobs.
Accult geometry, the Faustian bargain selling one's soul. I mean it's all here.
It's all here. The power of approaching one's own shadow. Oh boy and if you've been
with me long enough you know that we covered all the Kobe Bryant books that he
wrote about the kids books he wrote it's the same thing. It's the same thing.

(01:34):
And as usual we're gonna start out with my film analysis like do a little
pre-game questions for people who are like what the hell is a K-Pop demon Hunter?
Well should you watch it first? At first you know I had some
I had some family some young family members over and they wanted to watch this
movie and when it fired up I was like oh this is not my cup of tea.

(02:00):
You know because it's like a what do you call it? Anime not anime it's um you know it's
graphic you know like a cartoon right and so the first time the first 15 20
minutes I was like oh boy I'm in for a rough ride here but then it got better and
it was entertaining enough I was like okay it's pretty good you know about two
thirds in I was like all right wrap it up already you know

(02:23):
the run like this about a hundred minutes as you know close to my perfected 90
minutes I'm like okay not bad but then and I noticed all these themes in there
and I was like okay I'm gonna have to watch this again for the the show for my
people all right and on the second viewing I actually like the significantly
better because I kind of understood what they were getting at a little bit

(02:44):
better I mean I'm don't tell nobody I might have felt a little bit of a motion
which I promptly stuff down like a real man so should you watch it I would say yes
it's not my cup of tea but it was pretty cool story pretty unique uh it's a
piece of pop culture moment right because it's the most watch original title in

(03:06):
Netflix history uh over 300 million views in the US the soundtrack is blowing up
on the pop charts over three billion streams globally and literally just
just it asks all the news that this they're gonna work on a sequel that is
gonna be dropping in 2029 which won't matter we're all gonna be shoved in the

(03:26):
singularity by then into the matrix who cares but yeah I say it's worth it
you know now normally we during my pregame we talk cast and crew
I mean I don't know none of these people are mostly Korean though I want to
recognize with Ken Jung who plays Bobby he's like the agent character for this

(03:47):
band called the huntrix which we'll talk about uh he was the dude from the hangover
with the uh you know micro thing the mini obelisk
and he he uh he's a medical doctor in real life so that's crazy and that's it that's
it that's all I got for pregame so if you're ready to start decoding we're
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I supported alone for that is it not all right okay that's enough let's get into movie plotspoilers
coming up plotspoil is coming uh kpop demon hunters all right they introduced this the whole
theme of this movie is about this female three three member band called the huntrix
Korean kpop right they call they call pop music in Korea kpop I guess I'm not well versed in it

(07:38):
although I just spent a year deployed there in the military so I know that they don't speak
Korean they speak hungul um I can speak a little bit of it enough to get by but huntrix is the world's
most popular band in this show right and they are the hunters and the narrator starts out and explains

(07:59):
what's going on with this whole thing and and and what they're up to right now you'll notice that the
stage shows some pretty interesting symbolism if we if we get take some shots of it and take a look
at it right and I'll put the images on the video so you can see it you see the the citernian hexagram

(08:21):
satan of course the deity of time and measurements comes from the adversarial set from the outer you
know I talked about all this in the dark path if you're not aware of that and I'm also going to do a
satan deep dive for you guys here in the next give me three six months satan being the god of
constraints and the force of chaos which is kind of interesting considering that this Hanmoon is a

(08:44):
sort of enveloping sheath which you're going to hear I'm going to play the clip they they they set it
all up for you there the basically the huntrix are trying to build the Hanmoon the golden Hanmoon this
sheath that covers the earth and protects it from the demons all right and this sheath was actually
what satan was doing to the earth back in the gold the supposed golden age of the occult they believe

(09:07):
that satan enveloped the earth in its golden purple or its purple haze during what they call the golden
age so the Hanmoon is very similar it's a sheath covering the earth on the stage you also see the eight
pointed star that's the star chaos magic star chaos symbolizes chaos magic also utilized by an

(09:30):
artist and your asianisms like Alexander Dugin which we've talked about plugged into the steep band
and network back in 2020 when I interviewed professor bent title bomb and by the way everything that
dude was saying in his book war for eternity about steep band and my man was on the money years ahead
of his time and we talked about it in that interview obviously the the symbols using dungeons and

(09:54):
dragons in the illuminates of thana teros chaos magic group which was created by Peter Carroll right
Peter Carroll's a big name in chaos magic and that name of the group that he founded it combines the
ideas of sex and death and the opposing forces for achieving magical consciousness and it uses elements
of crowley's thalima tantra magic and stuff and people like robert Anton Wilson and tim leery and

(10:18):
william burrows were all into this stuff okay so chaos magic is a real thing it's a very major
component of the occult all right so when you see all that stuff in the opening sequence on the stage
you kind of think okay I see that that's a symbol well there's a meaning to it and we're going to
unpack that in the conclusion so let's take a listen to what the narrator says is going on and

(10:41):
setting up the movie for us the world will know you as pop stars but you will be much more than that
you will be hunters
demons have always haunted our world stealing our souls and channeling strength back to their king

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team up until heroes arose to defend us born with voices that could drive back the darkness
singing songs of courage and hope but hunters are more than warriors

(11:28):
our music ignites the soul and brings people together with this connection the first hunters created
a shield to protect our world the home one
every generation a new trio of hunters is chosen to fulfill our ultimate duty a barrier so strong

(11:53):
it is impenetrable that will keep demons and schema from our world forever the golden
honmoon and now that duty falls to you that victory is within your reach it is your voices your song
that will create the golden honmoon yes so we heard that there are these demons that steal souls

(12:19):
for their king guima and there's these voices that can fight back certain heroes certain selected
ones and these are the hunters and their voice the spoken word and the music that they create
unites the people to create the honmoon this shield this sheath the inner planetary force

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in to protect the world from demons all right and every generation a trio of hunters are assigned
to maintain and build this golden honmoon to try to keep the demons from the world so they can't steal
our souls okay so hunters and honmoon equal good demons equal bad all right we're talking about
of how these hunters use the power of God they use there's an angel belief in the power of the

(13:07):
the spoken word and that's what mantras are all about that's you know we hear that God used to
create the world through spoken word he said let there be light in kabbalah they talk about numerology
and words and how you know certain letters and the the the formulation of those letters have certain
powers even goes back to nosticism abracadabra which is you know a magical incantation means as I speak

(13:33):
I create which is where the nostic gods name comes from comes from a braxis ties into abracadabra
now the honmoon is apparently not a real thing in korean mythology because I looked that up but I
did find a post on kin em draws that tumblr that talks about how the word is a combination of young

(13:55):
hon which means soul or spirit and moon which is a term for a door or a gate so honmoon could mean the
soul gate so either way we're introduced to this trio of hunters called huntrix that's the
female band and it's a combination of hunter with the latin suffix x meaning it's a feminine

(14:17):
and they are tasked with using their voices to create the golden honmoon and you've got three band
members you've got mera who's the lead dancer she's the black sheep of her family you got zoi who's
the rapper for burbank and then you got roomy she's kind of the main character right now her mom died
when she was a baby and her mother was in a hunter's group prior right so she was born into this it's in

(14:44):
her bloodline now fun fact the director of this movie the daughter is named roomy and she actually
plays the voice of the child roomy in the film then you've got another character you've got a
Celine this is the the females manager that assembled the group originally and she also plays the role

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of being the what do you call it like the foster mom for roomy so huntrix they're on their private plane
and it turns out there's some demons in the skies as humans managing the flight and they're trying
to basically stop the huntrix from performing stopping them from using the spoken word right to build
the honmoon so the hunter's girls call them out big fight song sequence the works right and you have

(15:34):
to understand this is very much like a you know geared towards children it's a cartoon so we're
going to skip through a lot of stuff right because it's not relevant they can tell that these people
are demons up because of these patterns on their skin that form on their body okay
then we flash over to hell and gweema is there and he needs demons to kill huntrix as we already know

(16:00):
because once that golden honmoon gets built the demons are done forever so he don't gweema doesn't want
that this guy named genu is in hell and he shows up with a guitar and a tiger and he shows up he sings
about how gweema is the ruler that needs to feed on souls to have strength but his fire is about to
go out when this honmoon this golden honmoon gets built and genu wants to create a demonic boy band

(16:27):
to counter the forces of the female hunter huntrix band an opposing force right and genu has this
history of gweema that we'll hear more about later but as demon boy band they aim to steal the
huntrix fans so that they can't complete the golden honmoon genu also implies that like in exchange for

(16:48):
this he wants to erase some of his memories sounds like eternal sunshine of the spot is mined
little mk ultra-esque and notice that the homelands final stage is gold which is actually the final
stage of alchemy right turning lead into gold so the huntrix they wrap up their world tour and they
plan on taking a break but roomy she's like a grinder man she's a hustler she wants to put out a new

(17:11):
single already called golden and they talk which I've seen applies the golden honmoon they talk about
what they want to do and Zoe says look I just want to watch these turtle documentaries and we actually
saw earlier there was a a turtle in the film kind of buried in there and this is important because
the symbolism of the turtle is very much tied into what I'll talk about in the conclusion it's

(17:36):
deeper than you could ever imagine we also notice in their apartment they have a checkered
board floor the checkered pattern floor which is of course the opposing polarities again we talk
about this all the time the freemasonic lodges have the the Moses pavement and it's very important
for understanding the duality nature of reality for these people roomy tells them that look we're

(17:59):
going to promote this new single called golden all right and they show the video starts off with
a ray of sun golden sun over roomies left all seeing eye right the enlightenment of the occult ways
we see the roomy has these markings that the demons do so it's a little bit strange right she's
been hiding it this whole time nobody knows about this so she's part demon it seems what's going on

(18:25):
you're going to find out roomy is practicing for the song golden and her voice starts cracking and
it's apparently linked to these demon marks showing up on her body as she flashes back to being raised
by Celine and she sings about when the darkness finally meets the light and she asks Celine her you

(18:48):
know mother her stepmother or whatever if hunters kill all the demons and if that includes anyone
with those patterns like regardless like the do they even care if the demons could be good basically
is what she's asking and Celine tells her that look your part demon because your father was a demon

(19:10):
but your mother was a hunter so you kind of got both but you're going to be a good person you're
going to be a hunter and you're going to seal the golden Han moon and you're going to banish all
the demons and when you do that the marks will be gone right so she's a hybrid she's a hybrid of
good and evil and roomy wants to share this information with her bandmates but Celine is like no kid

(19:32):
you can't do that until those patterns are gone they won't understand and her demon side appears
to be coming out she's singing her her demon voice starts you know cracking through she's trying to
hold it together she has to cancel their performance but she says like look look for real for real
I'm going to get it together for the big idle awards that's this sort of that's the big the big

(19:56):
climax of the movie is these these idle awards as everything goes towards all right so she's like look
I'm going to get it together for the idle awards let's just chill and so on
Ruby name say it's it you need no introduction so a problem with your voice yes so we need one of

(20:16):
your awesome tonics something that will work super fast okay let me see
uh-uh in order to heal apart we must understand the whole
I see I see no actually I don't see very strange you have lots of walls up whoa he's so good right

(20:44):
so many walls walls I don't have walls uh yeah you do he is kind of good I'm just trying to stay focused
hmm focus is good but focusing on one part leads to ignoring other parts making you separated
isolated oh oh emotionally close off yes yes she's also a workaholic doesn't how to relax

(21:05):
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wow I can't believe you got all that wisdom just from looking at her hmm I see
wait why are you looking at me eagerness to please maybe a little too eager what

(21:29):
I'm not like that you guys with Tommy Fowse really like that right oh I see
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right okay how does this help me get my boys back as I said to treat
the part we must understand the whole that's great no but I thought we were here just for your

(21:54):
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as always so the girl so the girls go to an herbal doctor to get some remedies for her voice
maybe I'm part demon my voice is giving out and he says that in order to heal a part of you you have
to understand the whole and this entire dialogue is about how she's got these walls up she's suppressing

(24:55):
something what could she be suppressing it's her shadow right and he talks about how she's ignoring
other parts of herself again implying that she's ignoring her shadow inside and to fix the voice
she must understand the whole she must know thyself which is a main theme in occultism
the doctor sells them some tonic turns out he's a fraud whatever they're walking out and they see

(25:19):
this group of four you know very attractive young men and they're this new boy band called the
Saja boys and this is G new and three other demons okay basically and they're there they're
trying to steal all the hunter's fans and they they sort of have an interaction and there's this
moment of attraction between roomy and G new whatever and the Saja boys they perform for the locals

(25:45):
they perform the song called Soto pop and you know the girls are able to see that they these
this boy band Saja boys they have the markings are like oh they're demons and what strangers in the
movie they say their magicians they say their magicians first because there's a relation there right
there's a relation to a magicers is all about interfacing with the angels and demons so

(26:07):
oh and by the way Saja means in in in in hong ghoul in karee and it means lion or grim reaper apparently
and what's interesting is that lion in astrology is Leo or the Leo's gate which is happens in
august and it's the power of serious and Babylonian magic and if you're like bro what you talking about

(26:31):
listen to my film analysis about weapons that just came out what last week because we go deep into
that kind of stuff and also the grim reaper of course a depiction of Saturn like I said that's what
this is all about so the Saja boys there are again super popular they're doing a little tv shows doing

(26:51):
little hot sauce shows or whatever and they're showing up and huntrix is like whoa they're they're
taking our whole fan base which is exactly what their plan was they have some battles and genus sees
that roomy is part demon and when they're sort of having a battle so he actually helps her he helps
her cover up her exposed marking so that her bandmates don't see it and it's interesting because the

(27:16):
bandana he ties around her exposed demon markings is checkered pattern again with the opposing polarities
so huntrix they see that the Han moon is now getting weak and they figure out that Guima actually
sent these Saja boys to steal their fans now they're on to it right and you'll notice again another

(27:37):
reference to a turtle Zoe is wearing a shirt that has turtles on it
roomy then sees a bird with a tiny hat and you'll see on the bird with a tiny hat you also see that it
has the the circle with the dot in the center that's the symbol for the solar right like you see with
the target logo it's an ancient symbol for the sun and the tiger cat thing delivers this message

(28:02):
from genu says hey i want to meet up and we find out that genu told Guima he's going to use his knowledge
of roomy being part demon in order to manipulate her in order to manipulate her shame and to take advantage
of her a demon girl also hunter hiding walking around free in the human world just hunter not demon

(28:30):
the how's your parents that's none of your business huh i know what it feels like to have them feel
you're a demon demons don't feel anything is that what you think that's all demons do feel feel our shame
our misery it's how Guima controls us do you not hear me in your ear what are you talking about
you're lucky i'll never forget the first time i heard him that was 400 years ago my family was extremely poor

(28:59):
and miserable i had a single position to my name an old bee pal so i busked the streets but it didn't
get me anywhere i was desperate we were starving then i heard him you can't do anything for
your family you're not good enough for them but i can help you be good enough overnight my fate

(29:21):
was changed i was praised for my voice even by the king himself my family and i live in the palace
grounds our bellies were finally full our clothes clean we were happy but the patterns they kept spreading
until they consumed me and i was condemned to the demon world prisoner of gima for all eternity

(29:42):
my family lost everything and without me they were even worse often before
every day since i've been haunted by the memory of failing them you left them left them behind
failed them these are a constant mind of my shame a shame i can never escape

(30:04):
so genu meets her tells her you know gweema controls all the demons through fear and shame and that's how
gweema sold his soul to him in order to save his family or genu i should say
and the shame of that failure is what keeps him trapped in hell which is actually pretty smart
i've heard a lot of people talk about the afterlife being a sort of manifestation of what you

(30:26):
depicted being which is kind of weird right but shame is in fact a real controlling factor i've taken
enough years of therapy to know that shame is a trigger that makes you show not at your best right
but what we're talking about here specifically is genu took the fowl steen bargain and this is just like

(30:49):
the crossroads in exchange for the musical abilities he sold a soul to the devil same thing he sold a soul
to gweema so hunter's decides like we're gonna write a new song f this golden song we're gonna write a
song called takedown and that's how we'll defeat the saja boys and the lyrics are much different than
golden it's not positive it's negative they're being drugged down into fighting and talking about

(31:11):
hating these people and so on also in this exchange there's a the rapper girl talks about how she has
23 notebooks which is interesting because of the 23 enigma of discordianism and the law of fives
that everything happens in in fives not super relevant to my theory but i wanted to point that out

(31:32):
so roomie starts to question the lyrics and why they're so full of hate and the bandmates like no
we do hate them they're demons and we want to send them back to hell for eternal suffering
but roomie she's kind of called feelings for genu and she's part demon and none of these girls
know any of this so she's questioning all of this now roomie meets up with genu again as she proposes

(31:54):
that they help that saja boys help the huntrix win the idle awards so they can complete the Han
moon which will actually block gweema and genu could stay safe in this world he doesn't have to go
back to hell so they kind of agree on that the huntrix are practicing for the idle awards roomie

(32:14):
is really tripping on singing this song with all the hateful lyrics she meets it with genu again
talks about her shame but since she met him her voice is getting fixed up like he's making her feel
okay about who she is and they sing a song about the power of shame keeping you in hell you know
and how you have to like kind of move past that meanwhile gweema gweema he's watching all these

(32:40):
all hell now he pulls genu in and warns me like you better not help roomie and he starts turning up the
shame to level 11 on genu to keep him in line telling him look like you betrayed your own family you
loser and he's like okay yeah you're right so the huntrix meet up and they debate even singing this

(33:00):
song take down and they decide look we should just sing golden because that's the best parts of
us anyways stay positive right so then we finally get there the third act it's the idle awards
soja boys are supposed to open up and it's a competition between soja boys and huntrix as
it who wins the idle awards soja boys are supposed to open up but they're fighting each other so

(33:20):
they're like huntrix you guys got to take the stage and they're up there they're singing golden
but then we find out that the two other girls in the band aren't actually them they're actually
demons and the music switches over to take down and the demons tear off roomies sleeve and now everyone
in the crowd in the world can see that she's got demonic marks and then they start getting into her

(33:44):
head she starts bugging out she runs backstage then her real bandmates come up and they see her demon
marks and now they're they're tripping on her they're wondering if she's double timing them the whole time
she begs them not to leave but they do sad times then roomie goes to find genu and he tells her

(34:06):
that he was a liar and he tricked her and he repeats the story the guimont told him that he betrayed
his whole family and how he talks all shamey about how they're just demons and they deserve to live in
hell right now he's like yeah I deserve to stay in hell I don't even want to be up here
so everything's a mess idle awards gets canceled huntrix breaks up and the demons are running wild

(34:31):
they're whispering in everyone's ear in the world they're including Bobby their manager
telling everyone about how they're all failures and then it's persuading them to go to the big stadium
and watch a the saja boys are going to do an impromptu concert and everyone's kind of mindlessly
walking towards the stadium and notice that the the logo for the saja boys is a line inside of an

(34:55):
inverted pentagon a pentagon of course the exterior version of the pentagram tying us into the
inverted pentagram like in the church of satan where did several shows on the order of nine angles
over the years which utilize geometric shapes like this in their rituals you know the church of
satan was originally called the order of the trapezoid because the geometric shapes they provide a

(35:16):
map for these these magicians they want to interface with they use it as a guide map to traverse
various concepts kind of like how sigil or symbol speaks to the subconscious right so the pentagon
or the pentagram it represents the microcosm or the human will so anyway everyone's having these demon

(35:39):
voices whisper to him about all their shames and fears Celine she's back at the big tree in roomy
goes to her and tells her to kill her she deserves to die roomy thinks Celine wasn't accepting her
because she made her hide the marks instead of just being like hey you know what you're a demon like
show the world so now she's kind of mad at Celine and she's like look I just wanted to cover these up

(36:03):
until you could build the golden ha moon and save the world sorry right it's complicated
so the saja boys that get everybody into the stadium they're doing their little performance
singing about how the people need them to be their idols and the lyrics are literally about
people being on their knees for these new idols the song is called your idol and the lyrics are about

(36:26):
making obsessed listeners listen repeatedly to the idol and giving their soul to them right
giving their souls up I mean this is a shot fired at the music industry I believe
maybe even some more of the destructive types of music you know like your drill rap or country music

(36:47):
that's right I said country music it's destructive it because it is virtual labor song is about
embracing alcoholism as if that's something to strive for anyway and I'm just saying like I like
rap music so people are always like oh it's just degenerate music and like it is like that's I'm
not defending it but don't tell me country music is any better I've listened to it I tried getting

(37:11):
into country music I was like every song is about alcoholics crying about this and that and the other
anyway so anyway the roomy shows up and gweema he's talking trash but roomy she's got a little song
she's got a little song about how she shouldn't have been suppressing her dark side and her demon scars

(37:32):
this whole time and the song is called what it sounds like and you know you'll notice the stage also has
the the similar three paths with the pentagram for the Saja boys instead of the Saturn chaos magic
but gweema doesn't want them to sing this song right because the lyrics are about not covering up

(37:53):
our true inner self covering up the colors inside her head and so on right so gweema he starts
attacking roomy geno shows up to saver he takes all the gweema's he and he helps her defeat gweema which
pulls all the demons out of all the people that are turns out all the people in the stadium were
infected by devils and they start banishing all the demons and the song ends with lyrics that say when

(38:18):
the darkness meets the light so hunters completes the Hanmoon all as well the world is saved day new
muah they are finally in the back house they wanted some couch time but they see their fans and they
decide they're gonna continue performing they're gonna keep grinding all as well that ends well great
little ending now let's talk about in conclusion it's about shamanism okay director Maggie Kang said that

(38:48):
it's about the real culture in korea of shamanism she did an interview and she said that she said
shamanism kind of exists in every culture so it's a really good thing to spring off of it was a really
great idea to do that and have it to be rooted in a real practice and i looked into this because i
didn't know any of the stuff i looked into a korean shamanism is a pagan religion going back a thousand

(39:11):
bc and they called the shaman the moodang and most of the moodang are women like 80%
and the moodang shaman are the intermediary priests right between this world of the next they really
they really did do or they still do i guess conduct songs and dances for these gods so that's real right

(39:33):
and the moodang shaman they have one type that of shaman that do rituals to become possessed by entities
right some of the shaman just make contact pretty wild stuff but the mythology of the creation of
korea is about a deity having a son named dangoon who comes to earth to create the first korean kingdom

(39:56):
anyway the moon dang are chosen from the deity and the people that are chosen to do this they go
through this process in order to be confirmed right and on wikipedia they talk about it says the
neophyte must ultimately perform an initiation ritual to open up the mal moon the gates of speech that

(40:19):
will allow them to receive the words of the spirits this right is called the nareem gut it involves the
neophyte performing the appropriate chance dances and oracles to invoke and convey inspiration from the
deities this initiate fails to perform this correctly with the deities failing to open their mal moon
they will again they will have to perform it again major update folks i've had to move my online

(40:44):
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nay nay ring gut before being recognized as properly initiated ritual specialists.
now i was looking up these dades because i was like okay this is very much occulted you know
like yoga means to yoke and it's about unionizing with the deity it's in lords that the left hand
path in the book they talk about different strategies to make contact and be absorbed into these

(43:01):
higher powers well one of those dades is called the chill song which is the spirit of the seven stars
of the big dipper and the irsa major constellation from this you got to stick with me for the side tangent
give me five minutes well maybe less in my book the dark path there i did a chapter on analyzing the

(43:24):
lyrs to led zeppelin stairway to heaven we talked about the lyrics pointing to an occult system
magic coming from the power of the spoken word aka the logos that creates the world
through the emanation of god's mind right you know in in led zeppelin say with the words you can get

(43:45):
what she came for sometimes words have two meanings that's what they're talking about i think
so staring at heaven is an actual it's the name of an actual occult practice
and it's about ascending the shock reports from the base to the crown it's the traversal of the
candlestick tree of life from melcooth to kethore and the Egyptian pyramid text and the chines

(44:10):
they call this walking on seven stars and the time of the big dipper and the great bear and so on
right and the great bear constellation is believed by the theosophists to compliment the seven stars of
playdees it's the opposing plierty right the pliedies are the seven sisters and they believe that

(44:31):
they can that entities can send cosmic energy through serious we talked about serious earlier right
with leos gate serious sun earth down to the integrated ascended masters and finally for all of mankind
and the big dipper was considered the seven spiritual fathers playdees was the seven spiritual
mothers so you've got these opposing plieries male and female just like in the movie in kpop with

(44:56):
the saja boys and the huntrix and if you if you're really into this i can't recommend enough peter
of venda wrote a book called the dark lord and he goes deeper than you could ever want to go it's
super dense about this process of the stairway to heaven of activating the seven chakras

(45:17):
being switched on through Kenneth grants rituals and they do this in order to awaken the kundalini
right and they the reason they want to awaken the kundalini is because they believe that you can have
opposing polarities inside your mind you can have the female and male tantric you know sexy time

(45:38):
the shak ti is the kundalini and the shak ti ascends when you unlock the the shakra points to the
cranial vault where she the resides and they creates what they call the alchemical wedding
and it's supposed to unlock superpowers and bring about the elixir of life and immortality and all
kinds of crazy stuff okay so you can like you can really you can really dig deep into it but

(46:04):
you know peter of venda goes deep into this idea and ties it into samarians and the Babylonians and
and even in kabbalah and he's really deep into the necronomicon which allegedly he wrote
and it all ties into the big dipper and the plieides and so on and it's the idea that through the power
of serious and these energies they can sort of manifest different things right

(46:26):
these these systems of magic are very important to the people that pay attention to the stuff that
understand what's going on I don't understand because I'm a tourist I'm trying to figure it out too
well what's funny is that when I was reviewing my notes from the dark lord I also saw an explanation
about the powers of sound I'm going to read you from the book mantras are syllables or words that

(46:54):
have specific associations with deities or spiritual qualities they can be as short as a single
syllable abesha or seed mantra or as long as a sentence or a verse their valued lies in the
manipulation of sound sound is vibration and different mantras because of different combinations
of vowels and consonants vibrate at different rates when spoken and these levels can be adjusted

(47:17):
to the use of volume and pitch they also help to quiet the mind by replacing chaotic inner voices
and random thoughts with a string of seemingly meaningless syllables thus essentially short circoning
the language centers of the brain now if you didn't catch it what I'm saying here is that the demons the

(47:41):
shame that they talk about in this movie they can quiet it through the spoken word through the singing
of their songs like golden right now here's the big part about the pito the vena notes I'm going to
read you okay mantras asanas and mudras and prana yama are all designed to counteract the normal

(48:02):
functions of the mind and the body obviously occultism is not about reinforcing our basic instincts
for survival but in violating them as much as possible so to sum all that up the seven
sisters of the pliades is part of the spiritual evolution of mankind manipulating sounds or

(48:23):
vibrations can be used as part of this process keep that in the back pocket as we shift a couple
gears into turtles right the turtles we talked about the symbolism it's in the film a few times
you know Zoe's wearing the shirt a couple times in the movie they talk about one to watch the
documentary about turtles and all of that I believe is on purpose this is symbolism of the creation

(48:46):
of our world the mythology of ancient cultures believe that there were these cosmic turtles
that the earth is built upon and if you look at the depiction of it the shell is the dome
and the belly is the flat earth so the turtle is the chaos matrix upon which order can be formed
it's the original god because they're always talking about chaos in order as these opposing

(49:10):
polarities from which they can create new realities but that represents you know the turtle represents
patience because the turtles live a very long time they move very slowly which is kind of how the world
evolves and it's got relations to Saturn which is also considered the source of chaos from which the

(49:31):
world can be built and it relates to the alchemical process because it's a slow continuous refinement all
right now I have a history of this turtle thing just constantly dropping in my lap when I did
I've interviewed professor Diana Pasalka twice she gave me the privilege of doing such

(49:53):
once for each of her books she's got a third one coming out soon that I can't wait to read and ask her
about and I've even taken one of her she has online courses you can take I've taken one of those it was
phenomenal she is one of my favorite people to talk to all right she was on Joe Rogan even right so

(50:14):
when I was researching Diana Pasalka's stories like in encounters right that's her second book
there's a section on AI and neural networks and there's a person named Iowitli who researches
neural networks as she believes in what they call a cosmic perceptual network it's a mix of human
and non-human and it connects all living things in all worlds into a universal language

(50:40):
and they talk about a pattern of creation relayed in a story about a turtle who shall get struck and
it expands through different rings and we also talked about this in American cosmic her first book
with the invisible college and this guy named Tyler D who visited a friend who had a piece of a
UFO in his backpack and his friend said I had a dream about the contents of your backpack I dream

(51:06):
there was a separate universe that you carried in it a universe that was created within this universe
that who knows where the universe was created had very much the essence of turtles all the way down
to say something and you got to listen to listen to my interviews with her listen to that first
American cosmic interview and you can understand we have a exchange about this turtle thing

(51:26):
to say something is turtles all the way down as another way of saying it's a continuous process
of evolution with no final stage of completion and this was a term popularized by Bertrand Russell
when someone told him that the world is flat and it rests on the back of a turtle he replies by asking
what the turtle is standing on and the woman says it's turtles all the way down right it's this

(51:50):
sort of recursive infinite process then another piece I'll throw at you it steving kings it which is
one of my favorite stories ever it's it's the story of Pennywise but it's actually a story about
matter and this adversarial turtle that vamits up the whole universe into creation during what they

(52:12):
call the ritual of chud and matter in is the turtle that exists in the macroverse you know the
larger universe and created the whole world it was the adversary of matter and it was the brother
and in the book during the ritual of chud which is the the final battle with the spider it

(52:33):
in the 1950s we hear that it has an eternal energy manifested from matter in bill is in
the ritual of chud when he sees a final other that was the creator of the turtle so it's kind of
turtles all the way down there too so you got both the final outer and the matter in and they're

(52:54):
watching as it devours things and I'm going to read you a passage from the book suddenly he thought
he understood it might it meant to thrust him through some wall at the end of the universe and into
some other place with that old turtle called the macroverse where it really lived where it existed

(53:16):
as a Titanic glowing core which might be no more than the smallest moat in the other's mind he
would see it naked a thing of unshaped destroying light and there he would either be mercifully
annihilated or live forever insane and yet conscious inside his homicidal endless formless hungry
being and there's so much to unpack there we don't we're not going to go into that it sounds a lot

(53:41):
like approaching the abyss and outster crow crowlies corones on when we talk about the other you talk
about the adversarial forces this ties me into my dark enlightenment series where we talked about the
CC are you talking about these demonic forces they called the other they call it different term but
it was something about the other but it's all very interesting that this would all connect to now

(54:02):
there's this so but what I'm saying is that the turtles is more than just the reasons brought up
in the movie kpop is on purpose now we're going to tie this together in a very strange and obscure
reference in 2021 I did a film analysis of the movie bliss on amazon and the characters in the movie

(54:25):
if you haven't seen I don't think this is a plot spoiler but the characters they stay in a hotel
called the hotel Pleiades and in that movie they also use the line its turtles all the way down
which I thought was kind of interesting and in it we talked about theosophy and blood that

(54:45):
Helena Blavatsky and how in her book the secret doctrine and dialogues she says that these
Pleiades are the most occult constellations that exist they are very occult because they are
connected with all the Rishis too they have an interchange of thought with the Rishis and I don't
understand what that means I dig around online I'm trying to understand more about this and I found

(55:08):
an article on Blavatskytheosophy.com about the Pleiades to try to understand a little bit more
and this is what it says it might firstly be useful to explain that there is a constellation called
Ursa Major also known as the great bear the big dipper and the plow in india is referred to as the
Saptariishi which means seven Rishis the Sanskrit term Rishi means a sage or saint it consists of seven

(55:36):
bright stars the Saptariishi have a connection both in Hindu mythology and esotericism with the Pleiades
the Pleiades also known as the seven sisters as a star cluster located in the constellation of
Taurus and although having several thousand stars there are said to be six of particular brightness
and a seventh which is hidden or not visible to physical sight in the secret doctrine Blavatsky

(56:04):
and her eight-ept teachers explain as to the mysterious constellation of the seven Rishis is in
the great bear if Egypt made them sacred to the oldest gentricks Typhon india has connected all
these symbols ages ago with time or Yuga revolutions and the Saptariishi are intimately connected
with our present age the dark Kali Yuga she goes on to say that in the Bhagavad pirana scripture

(56:30):
that they call us the great circle of time and it's represented as a tortoise and across the tortoises
lines are the seven Rishis and what I think it's saying is that the great bear is talking about cycles
of time and the final age of mankind which is the Kali Yuga that everyone thinks were currently

(56:52):
living in and this takes me back to the steep banan thing because that's what informs his world
view and a lot of the what do you call traditionalism folks that subscribe to that you have to get into
the title bomb things I put a link in the show notes Isaac all right I'll put a link in the show notes
for the Ben title bomb interview and the first or second Passalke interview okay

(57:19):
so what are we talking about with all this nonsense let's wrap it up okay
we're talking about go with the bobs we're talking about women in this movie are trying to create a new world
and without the demonic influence that it currently has in the Kali Yuga dark age and they do this by

(57:41):
taking advantage of opposing pleridys it's referenced many times in the movie right roomy is the
opposing pleridys herself she's part demon she sings like when darkness finally meets the light
the main theme of this film is her approaching and accepting her shadow side the demon side
we heard her band made s acknowledge how she has all these walls up and the doctor said you have to

(58:04):
become whole which is by the way very much Carl Young's talk about why you need to do shadow work
and we saw several checkered patterns with the floors and the bandana that covered up the markings
they also struggle with two potential songs this thing at the final scene one is positive that's golden
one is negative that's takedown and they choose the path of positive

(58:28):
but it's only when roomy confronts her shadow that she can create a positive world and build and complete
the Han moon so it's possible that what we're witnessing is the creation of a new world in kpop demon hunters
right that's what all the turtle symbolism about the fact that the shaman created the golden Han moon

(58:49):
which i interpret as the golden age because that comes after the kali yuga that's what Steve
bandana and the traditionalists Alexander Dugan and all these folks are talking about
they think that this is the final stage of the alchemical process and this links into all that talk
about blavatsky about the playities being part of this kali yuga process which she believes she was
living through as does everybody else it seems because kali yuga is the time of the dark age its

(59:14):
corruption it's chaos and bandana is utilizing all that archetypal symbolism and that's what we're
witnessing with trump as the chaos candidate showing the darkest age of corruption spiritual ignorance
right yeah and don't pick on me trump himself said he's like i don't think i'm going to heaven right
he plays a role in the archetypal uh you know ritual that we're all going through

(59:37):
to bring about the golden age that's what he said he was doing it just doesn't look the way you
think it looks right and the idea is that there will be a setup for a golden age from this
the teckelites will claim that this golden age is going to come through their AI,
singularity, digital matrix which i don't believe but in kpop demon hunters they show us the end of

(01:00:00):
the dark age of the kali yuga when they banish the demons from our world and allows to connect with
one another with good vibes they choose positivity they choose acceptance accepting even demons
right because that's what romian she's part demon they are the turtles creating the new world
utilizing the vibrations of sounds and these are again based off real life shaman who also looked to

(01:00:26):
these energy sources of the pliedies and the big dipper for the these opposing polarity energies
of the active and receiver male and female which is what you see in the movie the males versus the
female the receiving female forces of huntrix using the active male force of the saja boys
in order to bring about the golden Han moon you know it's like electricity you've got a positive

(01:00:51):
charge with a negative potential and you need both to create the circuit to create the magic to
create the reality and these two opposing forces can come together to create and in this story
the this is cue the the full house piano moment it's about creating a better world it's about

(01:01:15):
getting rid of this demonic force of shame and being ashamed about who you are and accepting yourself
for who you are this is one of those examples of an occult practice that isn't about embracing evil
because it's not always exactly like that it's a little more complicated sometimes it really is just
about taking the positive path which is what i talked about in my book The Dark Paths with my own

(01:01:37):
individuation type process so that's what the movie is about according to me but thanks for listening
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(01:02:00):
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