Peter Thiel, AI & The Antichrist: Is Silicon Valley Building an End-Times God?

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billionaire Peter Teal has been holding secret lectures about the antichrist and he's preparing for a darker future

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Then you could ever imagine it involves a palantir police state surveillance system and transhumanist dreams of immortality
He's trying to brainwash the masses into it to talentarian faith
And I'm here to expose you to the truth
So stay tuned for those leaked antichrist lectures
Decoded and why Greta Thunberg Bill Gates and AI suddenly matter to the end times that they're trying to create

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[Music]
Today we're going to talk about and decode those odd statements and lectures being made by billionaire Peter Teal in regards to what he believes
Is the antichrist will cover the New York Times interview with roast
Ross
Rost Ross

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Dothat I probably missed pronouncing his last name too Ross Dothat and the secret lecture series that he completed in October
We'll talk about hyperstition symbolism boomers Teal's fear of technology stagnation and
Unlocking immortality we'll talk about the great reset Greta Thunberg
Renee Gerard's mnemetic theory and find out why these nerds are trying to kill us

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We'd look back to the New York Times interview that Peter teal did with Ross
Do that doubt that I don't know his name. We're called Ross. Oh, Ricky Ross over New York times because it'll make more sense than
the
Dispars and choppy lecture information which we'll talk about why that is
But first let's get through the briefly go through the New York Times interview with Ricky Ross and Peter teal

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You can find the full thing on YouTube. It's about an hour long ish
I'm gonna I'm gonna blast through it though, okay?
It starts with a discussion about
Peter teal's essay called the end of the future those were in 12 years ago and he was arguing
back then
How we were in this period of technological stagnation?

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This is the thing. This is the key to the whole or deal about the anti-Christ for him. Okay?
I'm gonna tell you the plots boy. I'm gonna tell you what this is all about. This is about a nerd who has fantasies of
science fiction and they're not coming true and he's mad about it
You know, that's what we're dealing with the someone gave these nerds money and

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Now they're ruining the whole world for us. So
Let me explain why I believe that he wanted all of this great acceleration of technology to continue and
On the path that Ray Kurzweil formulated in his books
If you read Ray Kurzweil he's a futurist the lead engineer Google

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He had this fantasy about
Unlocking the singularity which will look we still could it could still happen
I'm growing more skeptical of AI as the as days go by
But doesn't matter what I think it's what these nerds think it's what they're trying to do
They're trying to lock us into a digital matrix, right?
And the reason is Ray Kurzweil's got daddy issues and he wants to unlock his dead father from the dead

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Who knows that's how saying these people are weird their psychopaths and their nerds and they've got all the money and now we all go along for this ride
During the interview they talk about back to the future of the movie and
about how
Back to the future to showed you the future of 2015
You know with the flying cars and such and they commented about how this is you know wildly off and I mean this captures

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These nerds, right?
But why weren't the movies real?
Like they're they're obsessed with
Science fiction. This is what motivated and inspired the rocket scientist
You know jack Parsons and so on
and
Back to the future to actually had a lot of predictions that did work out right it did support that theory about the predictive programming and film

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Like video phone calls which we saw in 2000 on the space Odyssey as well
flat screen TVs augmented reality and
the flying cars
Apparently and I wouldn't listen to the garbage, but Elon Musk was on Joe Rogan
getting his annual glazing and
I guess Elon said that he's gonna show us a

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prototype of a flying car by the end of the year
I'll be sure to hold my breath like all the other projects he boasts and brags about that never happened
But most importantly the storyline of back to the future to with Biff was in fact based on Donald Trump
go right or Bob Gale confirm that in an interview
with the daily beast I believe was and

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If you don't know the story of back to the future to Biff was this millionaire casino owner bully
He was a bully and he was involved with politics and that apparently was based on Trump. So there was a little bit of
You know, I mean, I don't know how
predictive that was I mean Trump was pretty famous in the 80s
Is being a casino magnet and such right?

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Now what's interesting about all this is that it fits into Peter Teel's dark enlightenment stuff when we consider this
Concept we talked about pretty programming, but there's a similar concept
When you get into my dark enlightenment series there's an episode about the CC are you and they were doing research
in the 90s

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About memes becoming reality, right? This is very much tied into whole Pepe the frog kek steve van and that whole
camp of madness and
They called it super I'm sorry they called it hyperstition in
The CC are you so in a way the predictions of back to the future to they were trying to fuel up or Peter Teel wanted

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It to fuel up a reality which didn't quite happen, right?
Ross asks is he's like he wants to quantify this the stagnation that Peter Teel is so upset about and
He asked him to quantify him Peter goes directly to a
Comparison of economic factors like to prove their stagnation he says

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How are you doing versus your boomer parents when they were you know the same age and
I don't know I think that's a fair take
Because you know the boom generation they they they had it the best
I feel like they had the best part of the American dream it seems like seems like they pulled a ladder out behind them
Is what it feels like you know I?

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Could be wrong
It just seems that way seems like you could get more done, but I also do to throw the boomers a
Lifeline
I also do think that
We got by with less back then, you know I grew up in the 80s I
Group in PA with no air conditioning and like that's unfathomable today

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You know like we just didn't have things we didn't go on vacations
Like it's just the way we live today just isn't
Isn't the same like I wonder if we got rid of vacations and cell phones and internet and technology if maybe the an air conditioning like me and
Every single car was a stick shift. There was manual windows and everything. There was no air conditioning in your car

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I mean it was like it's a different world like if you got rid of all that like I don't maybe you could get by better
You don't you certainly didn't buy coffee. There was no starbees
You didn't buy stuff like that. I remember like you just
Wouldn't buy drinks. I mean, I don't know if that was just my experience or not like you just didn't we didn't go out to eat

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We didn't buy drinks at gas stations and things like that like it didn't happen
I mean it happened once in a great while, but today it's like every morning
I got to go to the 7-11 and get a monster and a hot dog or whatever people do
And it's like a crazy waste of money
That's just now we lived back then
Anyway

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Get off my old man so bucks. So Peter teal thinks that things started slowing down the 70s
and he thinks that if we don't find a way back to the future
Then all society will collapse because that's not how the capitalist system of the western world or America has functioned and
Ordinary people won't allow for stagnation. We have to have growth and this is very much if you watch Michael Moore's

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Remember the documentary is about capitalism. It's pretty good and it lays out the the
insanity of
The stock market and capitalism that there has to be continual growth. You can't just sell a good product and be like yeah every year
It's great. We make X amount of sales every year. No, no, no has to be continual growth
If there are plateaus at a billion dollars a year like that's terrible

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Has to be 1.1 billion and all costs
Fire those workers replace them with AI bots, you know
And that's why you get all this stuff
So Greta Thunberg is apparently the
Anti-Christ representative of this anti-growth type of society and

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Peter teal thinks that
That will be super oppressive right and and this goes down to like right left paradigms
Whatever your big boogie man is whatever your fear is that will
Inform your line of thinking like for Peter teal he is all in on Trump and the right wing stuff because
He thinks that the left wing stuff is really the oppressors, you know, and you could argue vice versa

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I'm not going to do today because I you know have my opinions and that's okay
Greta really
Lives rent-free and Peter teal's Ted just know that
He talks about her consistently
And I don't know enough about her to I don't really have an informed opinion on her

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I would say she seems very much like a you know, if I call Taylor Swift's an industry plant
I would say she's an environmentalist plant. I mean her story is
Seems to be out of nowhere that she's like world famous, right?
I don't know I don't know what her stances are to say if I agree or disagree with her
I mean I'm pretty much an environmentalist myself, so
I don't know what she stands for though, okay

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Now I'm gonna play clip here for you, but they talk about the idea of
Taking risks for growth and teal says that this was early
Modernity and there were these pursuits of immortality back then and even references Francis Bacon
Doesn't really make sense. He talks about how it's sort of anti-Christian. I don't really get what he's saying here

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But he talks about how in the 90s and 2000s there was this push for cryogenic freezing of people's heads like Walt Disney, right?
In the pursuit of immortality and how that's sort of gone away digolism
What is risk in the medical space look like? Yeah, you would take you would take a lot more risk
You know if you if you have some fatal disease

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That probably are a lot more risks you can you can take there are a lot more risks the researchers can take
Culturally what I imagine it looks like is early modernity where people yeah, they had
They thought we would cure diseases. They thought we would have a radical life extension
immortality was that was part of the project of early modernity was Francis Bacon condor say

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You know, it was you know, and maybe it was maybe it was anti-Christian
Maybe it was downstream of Christianity was competitive if if
If Christianity promised you a physical resurrection, you know science was not going to succeed unless it promised you the exact same thing and then
But I don't I remember 1999 2000 when I was when we were running PayPal

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One of my co-founders Luke knows like he was into Al Cor and cryonics and people should freeze themselves and
And we we had one day where we took the whole company to a freezing party, you know a Tupperware party people sell
Tupperware policies of the freezing party they sell there. Was it just your heads?
What was gonna be frozen you could get a you could get a full body or just just a head

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The chest head was cheaper. It was disturbing with a dot matrix printer didn't quite work
And so the freezing policies couldn't be couldn't be printed out, but in retrospect this was this was still technological stagnation once again, right?
But it was um, but it's also a symptom of the decline because in 1999
It was this is not a mainstream view, but there was still a fringe boomer view where they still believe they could live forever

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And that was the last generation and so I'm always anti-boomer, but maybe
There's something we've lost even in this fringe boomer narcissism where there were at least a few boomers who still
You know believe science would um would cure all their diseases
No one no one who's a millennial believes that anymore. I think there are some people who

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Believe in a different kind of immortality though right now
um, I think part of
Part of the fascination with AI
Is connected to a specific a specific vision of transcending limits
Um, and I'm gonna ask you about that after I ask you about politics
He's basically saying that the scientists thought

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We would have unlocked this immortality by now
And that makes him sad
He says he's anti-boomer because they're narcissists and the boomers were the last to believe in immortality
Ross is like yeah, but isn't there another belief in immortality that we can cover and then he teases it comes up later
and Ross was talking to him about

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Why he supported Donald Trump
And the point is that Trump was an agent of chaos
He describes it as risk and disruption
Until wanted to shake up the stagnation with this chaos and again, it's all about using the order and chaos opposing polarities very
secret society ish, right?

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Which makes sense because a lot of the people in
Trump's team there are you know, Ivy League, Yale type folks
So not surprising
Ross asks him what
Trump did in the first term to do all that to shake things up and he says Trump got people to start this conversation
to understand that something is wrong

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in our society this
basically this idea stagnation
And now all of Silicon Valley's all in on this musk Zuckerberg, Bezos all the people we saw lined up with the inauguration
You know, Google they're all
Supporting this because they think there's something in it for them
And they talk about how

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Trump's populism is exposing how inefficient the government is
Saying we could never do a manhattan project today. There can never be an Apollo today
You know, which you know says the says the guy who secretly an informant for intelligence agencies, but you know, we'll talk about that in a bit
So

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Which is also kind of weird like this is where I don't understand
Some of the stuff like the right-wing folks like teal and others say the government's so inefficient the can't get anything done. Can't keep a secret
their
wildly inefficient and they can't seem to accomplish anything yet in the same breath. They're like conspiratorial mind and they're like
They're they're talking to aliens and they've got this technology that can you know

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I'm morphing Alex Jones here a little bit. They're they're morphing into
It shapes the alien folks and they've got surveillance at all, you know
Shoot lasers into your house
I just don't understand it. I don't know how you can say both exist right but teal

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told Elon about this all he said look if Trump doesn't win
I'm moving out of America then Elon told teal
Look, there's no alternative to move to and then later Peter teal has this realization that Elon Mars's fantasy
Of going to Mars
Wasn't even a fantasy anymore because the
Because the point you're trying to say is that this woke socialist government would follow you to Mars eventually

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So that explains exactly why they want to burn it out of the ground that explains the dark enlightenment stuff
That explains why they need to tear the whole system to the roots, okay
And Ross asked him what exactly he thinks he's investing in with these AI investments and he's not sure if it'll break us from stagnation
But he wishes we were going to Mars. He wishes we were caring to mention all this stuff
Ross asked me if he believes in the super sentient AI thing and teal talks about

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The IQ and talks about ramping up intelligence and if these things can solve all the problems, right?
and
and teal
looks at this as
the savior
This AI it could be the savior to break us out of the stagnation and put us on this path of immortality, right?

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and
Ross asked if he believes that AI will lead to transhumanism and this is where
He asked if he wants the human race to endure
Seems like a softball question. Let's see how Peter Teal handles it
I feel is always an implicit acknowledgement that but for AI
We are like in almost total stagnation, but the world of AI is

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is clearly filled with people who
At the very least seem to have a more
utopian transformative whatever word you want to call it
view of the technology than than you're expressing here, right? And you you were mentioned earlier the idea that
That the modern world used to promise radical life extension and doesn't anymore

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It seems very clear to me that a number of people deeply involved in artificial intelligence
See it as a kind of mechanism for transhumanism for transcendence of our mortal flesh and
Either some kind of creation of a successor species or some kind of merger of mind and machine

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and
Do you think that's just all kind of irrelevant fantasy?
Or do you think it's just hype do you think people are trying to raise money by pretending that we're going to be
Build a machine god, right? Is it is it hype? Is it delusion? Is it something you worried about?
You I think you would prefer the human race to endure right?

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Your hesitant. Well, I yes, I don't know. I would
I would
This is a long hesitation. There's so many questions in close to this human race survive
Yes, okay, but but I also would I

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I also would like us to to radically solve these problems and and so you know, it's always I don't know
You know, yeah transhumanism is this you know the ideal was this radical transformation where your
human natural body gets transformed into an immortal body and

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There's a critique of let's say the trans people in a sexual context or I don't know trans bestite is someone who changes
They're clothes and cross dresses and a trans sexual is someone where you change your
I don't penis into a vagina and we can then debate how well those surgeries work
But we want more transformation than that. It's the critique is not that it's weird and unnatural

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It's man. It's so pathetically little and you okay when we want more than cross dressing or changing your sex organs
We want you to be able to change your heart and change your mind and change your whole your whole body
And then orthodox Christianity by the way the the critique orthodox Christianity has of this is these things don't go far enough

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Like that transhumanism is just changing your body, but you also need to transform your soul and you need to transform your your whole self
And so um right, but the other way wait wait, I sorry I I generally
agree with your
What I think is your belief that
religion should be a friend to science and ideas of scientific progress

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I think any idea of
Divine providence has to encompass the fact that we have progressed and achieved and and done things that would have been unimaginable
To our ancestors
But it still also seems like
Yeah, the the promise of Christianity in the end is you get you get the perfected body and the perfected soul

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Through God's grace and the person who tries to do it on their own with a bunch of machines is
likely to end up as a dystopian character
well uh
it's
Let's let's let's articulate this and you're gonna have a heretical form of Christianity right that says something else

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I I don't know I I think the word nature does not occur once in the old testament and so uh
You know if you if you you know um and that there is you know there is a word in what a sense in which
The way I understand you know the you know the judeo christian inspiration is it is it is it is

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It is about transcending nature it is about overcoming things and you know and the closest thing you can say
To nature is that people are fallen and that that's the natural thing in a christian sense is that
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So Peter's not too sure about his answers here
But he does know that Greta Thunberg is totally the anti-Christ and he is totally not
He just he just you know he's just not sure if the human race should survive or not

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Okay, and he hesitates a lot obviously he says eventually he's like well kind of like guess and then he
Strangely goes on to talks about transhumanism versus trans genders which he calls transsexuals and
He says it's not enough and I'm like
Wait a minute what?
Like I thought you guys were so mad about like transenders using bathrooms and existing and all this stuff

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And now it's like well, that's not enough
I'm like are you guys you guys ever get on the same page here like I don't understand what's going on here
I think it's warring factions within the right at this point and
Then he brings my religion to orthodoxy which I found extremely appalling and
Says that orthodox Christianity wants to take this even further

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With the transformation of the spirit. I'm like I mean I guess that's one weird way of looking at it
So the rostokes about the idea that Christianity would
Say that pursuing a more towny without god is sus and the people building AI don't believe that they are doing gods work at all

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And then he responds and even more meandering confusing response
Yeah, it's just you know, it's amazing how these have become the world's most powerful men, okay?
And it doesn't really answer the question it seems a throne for a loop when he says should the human race survive?
That seemed to really like short his circuits
Which should tell you everything you need to know

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And that clip went viral months ago when this interview was released
Then he you know, he's talking about Elon Musk building a billion robots, which is their new thing they want to do and
I don't know if you saw the the video clip of that neo robot that's supposed to help with house chores
But it's really just some dude in a looking through goggles into your house and doing stuff crazy crazy

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I just don't see how this technology is ever gonna get to the point that they fantasize of getting to be honest
Which is a good thing because you can't trust these nerds with this amount of power
Ross asks him what he thinks the anti-Christ actually is because you know, Teal's been talking a bunch about it
and Teal responds by talking about how
There's these existential risks like the one-world order totalitarian state

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He mentions how nukes are a threat controlled by the UN's one-world order
He talks about a film called one-world or none. I haven't seen it
And he claims that Christians see it the same way that the anti-Christ is the one-world order
fair
And the Christians either see it as we either go towards that or we go towards armor get in the end times

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Then he says it's Greta Thunberg
And it's Greta Thunberg because it's the people who warn about AI
and the people that
Want to create peace and people that want this one-world order like they all get lumped together
And if you listen to my darken laments here is we talked about how

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People like Peter Teal and Elon Musk they buy into this thing called it Rocco's
Rocco's or Rocco's Basilisk and it's this idea this thought exercise about how
If we seed an AI super intelligence God and
It becomes you know sentient or whatever and it says hey
How come some of you guys didn't want to build me how come some of you guys didn't want to birth me

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And it's gonna then punish them. So if you are anti AI
You are gonna be punished when AI becomes God
and
vice versa
Elon Musk and the people that are fueling AI and building it they will be rewarded by their new God

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I know it sounds crazy listen to my darken laments series if you haven't heard him
Ross says that if we build up AI it
Ross the interviewer
Suggest that we build up AI it will become a tool for totalitarianism
He's which means he'll get punished in the when a new AI God comes
And Teal thinks environmentalism is more likely to be the one to build this totalitarian government

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Any any commercial to Europe because they're pursuing he says they're pursuing three options the green party
Sharia law or communism and right now the green party is winning
And he says the hippies won in the 70s and that's when progress stopped that's when stagnation happened
And that's his big boogie man, right
And Ross says that the anti-Christ would use all these AI tools and palantir which is

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Was co-founded by Peter Teal military weaponry and surveillance and all the stuff and Teal says
That we've been stagnate because of all you hippies that want peace and safety
Right which he sites being something that the anti-Christ would save from the Bible
And to throw one bone here into Peter Teal

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In the great reset books written by Klaus Schwab
We covered these in late 2020 if you haven't listened to those
Klaus Schwab talks about using AI surveillance as a blockchain to monitor our energy usage and restrict it right
That's the green agenda version that's exactly we start with the green party and he ties them into Greta Thumbberg
Which I don't know maybe maybe I mean I wouldn't doubt it

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There's using the same sort of camp same vision
And and the in cities part about all this is that
The
residential usage of energy and all these resources
Isn't quite as much as the corporations and they're constantly talking about restricting
Personal residential uses of everything in Utah we do it with water and Utah they're like oh don't water your lawn

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Meanwhile like 80% of the water goes to alfalfa farms that sell it to China
Okay, how about you tell them to back off a little bit and I can protect my investment of my yard, you know
But that's how these people want to do they want to clamp down on
people and
Give handouts to the corporate corporations, right corporate welfare

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So Teal and Trump's
Version would be the Palantir surveillance police state which is exactly what we talked about in the night to 84 book club
We talked about and because this is exactly what George L. Orwell was warning us about and why he wrote the book
He was saying that totalitarianism can come from the left or the right either way. It's still totalitarianism and neither is good

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So that's the gist of the New York Times interview where he kind of talked about the anti-Christ
Which obviously to me seems like a question he
Wanted the New York Times to ask him like he planted that
Because then later
From September through October he would do a full lecture series on the anti-Christ

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Which is what we're gonna talk about now
He did a four-part lecture series in San Francisco and it was apparently like 200 bucks for tickets sold out
It was off the record so no no note taking no recording no phones no nothing
But a couple websites
claim to have gotten secret recordings of the lecture one being reason.com

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Which I don't recommend that website because their articles sucked it they said they had seven hours of content and it was like
the shortest
Uninformative take I've ever seen
So if you dig deeper you can find
The guardian did a much better article on it
They claim they also got access to the lectures

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Whatever right
So teal does these lectures with this nonprofit called acts 17 collective
Which stands for acknowledging Christ and technology and society. It's this fusion of tech
Christianity and Peter teal describes
The anti-Christ in these lecture I'm I'm gonna summit what the the guardian article says about these lectures

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Obviously, I don't have access to the lectures
But teal describes the anti-Christ as a system
That will rise in America and he's scared of this um
He said this a basic definition of the anti-Christ some people think of it as a type of very bad person
Sometimes it's used more generally as a spiritual descriptor of the forces of evil

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What I will focus on is the most common and most dramatic interpretation of anti-Christ
An evil king or tyrant or anti-Masaya who appears in the end times
Then he he apparently identifies himself as a small o orthodox Christian which makes me look back to the newer times thing and say oh maybe he wasn't talking about

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orthodox Christianity. He was talking about small o
All right
But he calls himself a humble classical liberal. I don't know about that
Because he's kind of more libertarian than anything
When teal was at Stanford he studied under a French philosopher named Renee Gerard and this Renee Gerard Gerard was

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Not to be confused with Renee gainon
But Gerard was famous for this thing called the memetic theory which is about how humans desire things
So that they can imitate one another and he wants
um
He said Gerard's theory says that we want objects
Simply because society wants objects not because we actually personally want these things

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Which kind of makes sense because that's why advertising and marketing works. That's what Edward Bernays's principles are built upon and so on
Well to understand this further
I found does the guy named Zach Slaibach who wrote up a piece on a substack in May 2025 about Gerard's memetic theory and the anti-Christ
strange enough

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Which we're like wow that's really close to what we're talking about yeah
Because Zach is a partner at the 1517 fund which was funded through Peter Teal's fellowship
G. Do you think Teal may have seen or used this or had Zach prepare this lecture for him?
could be
But the article talks about memetic theory to discuss how

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Desiring objects leads to conflict and chaos
So for peace to come about society will
Every so often use a scapegoat to blame for this chaos and this conflict for a return to peace and then punish the scapegoat right
From this religion has been brought about
When they deify a scapegoat who died for everyone's sins and this

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Was the way it worked until Christ came along because Christ died and
Um, he was revealed to be the
The victim who was God so societies
Can't scapegoat into peace in chaos and societal chaos and conflict has no way of relieving the pressure through the scapegoat because of this

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It's confusing to me too, but um the point is that societies will
You know sacrifice the scapegoat for the sins the atonement of the sins of the community Christ came along and changed that
All right
So Gerard says that
We're supposed to now instead of having a scapegoat a sacrifice for the community

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We're supposed to imitate Christ instead of imitating others desires. All right, which I think is a fair take I guess
And this teaching of Christ was spread with the Christian faith and now we since then we've got these societies that care
for victims that we've got hospitals and charities and we show mercy and justice and all these things

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However, Gerard believes that today society has become a radicalized version of Christ
And we're now obsessed with protecting victims and fighting injustices
I
I think this is the social justice warrior of the left sort of archetype right
To the point that we forgot forgiveness and humility

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And we've somehow returned to the scapegoat theory, but now the scapegoat is the oppressors
All right
And this is what the anti-Christ is a fake Christ who shows compassion, but doesn't believe in forgiveness or actual peace
And he says this is done with people that conduct wars to protect victims

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He brings the abrasions into this
Which he said look they do these abrasions and they they frame it as saving the mother
and
And who really saves the most oppressed people
This is what he says so ultra Christianity is a social order that values concern for the victim and still has the threat of the medic contagion

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But is now left without either the pre-archeic religions and rights of sacrifice to prevent destruction
Or Christian conversion to prevent destruction instead you get cycles of mnemetic violence
Driven by a desire to save the victim
But without the call to conversion and forgiveness
rivalry erupts out of a desire to save the victim

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now
Back to the topic at hand
But you have to know this because Gerard is what informs a lot of Peter Teal's thoughts
All right, and if that sounds kind of right wingy it's because it is
It becomes a point of saying like well, God maybe maybe the

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People that are trying to give food to the hungry maybe they're the anti-Christ maybe they're wrong for doing that
Is what that that seed plants
So with technology AI social media everyone is imitating each other now we have this rapid mnemetic violence
Everyone's outraged all the time or mimicking everyone's anger true. These are all true things

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And they're saying that Christ came and got rid of the escape goat sacrifices and promoted compassion which was good but society took it too far
And now we forgot that we're also supposed to forgive we're also supposed to not be violent or supposed to turn the other cheek right
And you know now we're causing violence trying to protect victims through social movements and politics the leftist movement

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In this is what the anti-Christ is the left
Preaching the peace loving compassion, but using violence to achieve it
Which is interesting because it calls into question the US military right like that's what we you know
I was in the military, but like that's what this what they do
Is like peace through
War dominance

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Which I don't know that he's wrong. I really don't
It's the same way that I
Don't believe in the death penalty because like you're not supposed to do that
Do I understand why people want the death? Oh, yes, I do people do heinous stuff, but like that's not the idea of the Christianity
So something curious here scapegoats is also a term used in jabeshelby downer

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It's king kill 33 which we also did a three-part series on I advise you to listen to that as well back in June
I think July
Where
They talk about society would murder someone for the sins of the group and that was JFK and
Now you know now we're hearing more talk about societal scapegoats and stuff
But they think that victims in this whole forgiveness cycle must convert to Christianity and if you're not baptized Christian

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You know you don't make it in and they think that the memetic desire is the only reason we try to protect victims
Because we're trying to outdo each other. We're trying to imitate one another and be like well, I'm a better
I donate more than you or whatever right
I don't know that I don't know that I disagree with some of those points. I think some of those are pretty interesting and seem

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relevant right
So back to Peter teal he says in these lectures that the anti-Christ is actually a ludite and wants to stop all science and technology
Which this is very much echoes what we talked about with the New York Times interview
He says it's people like Elyseer
Jude Kalski

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Nick Boestrom and Greta Thunberg who argue for world government to stop science
And this is the closest we get to actual names of who the anti-Christ could be according to Peter teal
He also talks a lot trash about Bill Gates being an awful person
But dismisses that he could be ever be popular enough to be the anti-Christ
You know nerd wars here

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But he mentions these people because you know, you'd Kalski is an AI computer scientist Nick Boestrom is a philosopher about technology and Greta is an environmentalist and they're all critical of AI as an existential risk
so he's like
We got to get rid of these people because we need to bring in the AI and at all cost
Because it comes out of cost which we'll talk about here in the exciting conclusion. I believe

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He then talks about numerology of the age of the anti-Christ being 66 instead of 33 which raises concerns about the
capitalistic cleapoth to me
He said Christ only lived to age 33 and became history's greatest man the anti-Christ has to somehow outdo this
I don't want to be way too literal on the 33 number. I'd rather stress the anti-Christ will be a youthful conqueror

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Maybe in our gerontocracy 66 is the new 33
But something like these numbers do occur almost mystically through a number of different context
Buddha begins his travels at age 30 and experiences nirvana ego death 33
But I had to be ecumenical and say something nice about Islam one idea that's pretty cool is when you're reborn into the afterlife

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You're born into your 33 year old self
There's 33 year old self as your best self
Livies the Roman historians 33rd chapter of the 33rd book. It announces this 33 year old conqueror
It's like Alexander at the peak of his power or even in token
The homies have a coming of age ceremony at 33
Because you know teal's obsessed with

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Frodo is when he inherits that's how old Frodo is when he inherits the ring
so again

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This idea that Peter teal is so obsessed with science fiction and fantasy
and
You know, he's a conspiracy theorist in a way right he thinks the stuff needs to manifest in the reality
Teal says there's going to be a one-world government. He calls it Leviathan that will use supreme power to force people into peaceful cooperation
He talks about baby nenn you know who

(46:25):
Being unjustly attacked by the UN because the UN is the end is part of the Santa Cruz system
Again, I don't know if I disagree with that. I've seen stuff about the UN
You can probably do a whole show about that. I guess
Anyway, the the he says as the anti crisis synonymous with a one-world order state for teal
Sorry, this is the guardian

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He also believes that international bodies including the UN and the international criminal court
Hayson the coming the coming of armageddon
Throughout his lectures, he warns of what he sees as the danger of these bodies and the harms they have already caused
In the following quotes. He's lamenting the actions of the ICC
They've started arresting more and more people

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Rodrigo de Terté the former president of the Philippines was arrested this year
They had arrest for its offer net and Yahoo and gallant
When I met net and Yahoo early in 24 about a year and a half ago
We talked about what he's doing at Gaza and the one liner he had was
Can't just dress denies Gaza you can't just fire bomb them

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So it's like come on. I'm less of a war criminal than Winston Churchill. Why am I in so much trouble?
Why is Peter Till talking about this? It's because he's plugged in okay
Epstein's biggest investment is in Peter Till's valor ventures
Peter Till is very much into the blue and lights earlier this year

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He went there for a wedding of one of his venture capitalist, but he's Zach Frankl
along with executives from Blackrock and
Net and you know who himself
Now I was covered in the news and he
It makes sense because he then in the anti-Christ lectures praises the CIA for going rogue
Because the State Department was full of communists in the 60s

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And he said this because you know Till is plugged in he was an informant for the FBI
He was buddies with Epstein
So of course he's defending the intelligence agencies because that's what all that is related to
And ironically someone also asked about the assassination of
Charlie Kirk and Thiel's response was that it was way above his pay grade

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He didn't want to talk about it because he probably knows there's something go well not there
Because there for sure is you can't convince me out of that
You see the theories about the microphone being the like the exploding pages
I believe that one right now
And you know where the exploding pages came from right

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He later talks about how fighting communism was good for holding back the anti-Christ because he associates the two together
Because again, he's trying to demonize any kind of leftist thought
And Thiel is cozy with intelligence through again, Charles Johnson
He's another one of these far right figures. He co-founded clear view AI which was in

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In the news because they have facial recognition software that they give to the police state
As well as Enrico Tario from the proud boys from the Jan 6th stuff
He was also an informant the whole Maga Cruz shady right. It's all plugged into intelligence operations. I believe
Teal you know they even prove that there was FBI

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Folks at the Jan 6th thing right
Teal thinks and and look I'm not that's not a commentary on the politics thing
I just I don't know what the angle is but I think that
They're all very closely associated for some reason
Teal thinks paying taxes is
Part of the book of Revelation when the book of Revelation talks about needing to engage in commerce with the mark of the beast

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I'll rebuttal to that where Christ says you know render under Caesar what Caesars, you know, right?
You know, I don't I don't know this anti-Christian to pay taxes
I mean like nobody likes paying taxes. I'm not like pro like yay
I mean trust me we're dual income no kids. I pay a lot of taxes

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I'm just saying like it's
There's people that say like all taxation is theft and it's like well, I guess but like don't you want roads and traffic lights and
some kind of organization around society so it's not just like
Anyway, so Teal is worried about
Trying to stay out the soapbox today. I got a lot to get there. Teal is worried about another Caesar type government

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And he's saying he's even worried that JD Vance who's his his little puppy is too close to the Pope
Didn JD Vance kill the last Pope memory shook his hand then he died
And he says he's worried about a woke American Pope Pope being you know, uh, what's his name Pope Leo the new one
Or even a OC becoming the woke American president to bring the end times

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and
He kind of wraps it up with this idea like look to fight the anti-Christ we have to use free will
Which is very libertarian of him and I also agree them on this one and only point okay
So in conclusion what was all this about first off? I want to clarify it orthodoxy
We don't put a lot of weight into the book of revelation if you if you sign up for the daily readings

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They send you Bible verses every day on email
They do not cover the book of revelation ever they go through the whole Bible
Because of this exact reason is because it can be misinterpreted to spin whatever someone wants it to say because it's full of like esoteric symbolism stuff and
People like Peter Teal fall for this right and it's hilarious that Teal is

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Spinning out over all these ideas what he's doing. He's using it to support his beliefs
By using Christianity which to me is like
That gets you the the first class ticket to the basement you know them sign
Like the thing about not paying taxes. He's trying to sort of cherry pick and he's a terrible conspiracy theorist
But that's what he's doing and he thinks the anti-Christ is someone who is going to

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Cultivate a fear of environmental problems climate change war war three AI nuclear war
So the thing they can gain power
And he believes that America is the great opposer of what they call the catacom
The
The catacom is the opposer of the anti-Christ

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Because America is very anti one-world order because we're very sovereign which is good. I actually agree with that
His big fear is this stagnation the slowdown of the technological progress that he wants so badly and why why does he want that?
You had to know where these people want to take us
I want to put us in the digital matrix

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They want to go according to Ray Kurzweil's singularity timeline and they got him move it faster
And take know that Peter teal is besties with trump and vans and Elon Musk
He founded Palantir and PayPal and funded uh Facebook and SpaceX and open AI and chat GPT all these things that are awful
I mean, he's got an agenda and what's odd is that teal's professed love of Francis Bacon and the new Atlanta

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Which he brings up multiple times in the the new york times interview as well as in the second lecture of the anti-Christ
The article didn't specify what he said but Francis Bacon was
The one pushing for this new Atlantis of this scientific
Sort of false technocracy
That is supposed to fix everything and make this utopia

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And what I think is really going on here is that Peter teal's planning the seeds
To make Christians buy into this AI god thing as well as pump more fear
Into any kind of leftist or environmental causes
Because AI is very much anti-environmental. It pumps out tons of emissions. It wrecks the air

(54:11):
Consumes all the water it requires us to do ton of electricity
To the point that these nerds are building nuclear power plants just for AI
and
He's playing chess here. He's planning seeds that all of this is necessary
And if you're against
All of this stuff you're not only not a real Christian, but you are the anti-Christ

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