November 19, 2025 • 25 mins
How close did the USA come to a nuclear war with the USSR?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
And we're back on ARVID and ZIS Radio showing Ralph
nathan Oco.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hello everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's very important to understand we're very picky about the
shows that we present to you and share with you.
And in this particular case, uh, you know, when Patty
and I communicate on a very regular basis, what do
we want to discuss? And when we did, the Cuban
missile crisis thing came up, I jumped all over it
(00:37):
because I was in Illinois and Chicago at the time
in nineteen sixty two, the middle of my high school career,
so to speak. So it affected me as a Chicago
and remember not as a Freuridian.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So but what I want.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
To do is Patty, complete your story, because you're doing
absolutely magnificent job of describing step by step, and I
think we're going to have more than ample time that
we can communicate afterwards. Cindy, you, Patty and I Ralph
to share the different viewpoints at different levels or stages
(01:16):
of our lives and what I went through when it
was in nineteen sixty two, and all the ironies of
how everything that works out, and that you know, the
little pieces of the puzzle and all of a sudden.
You got a picture, so you've you've presented some of
the puzzle pieces.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Finish her up, baby, And well, I've got to say,
the Cuban missile crisis is a really huge topic and
very much worthwhile, uh studying for everybody. So I want
to throw out this recommendation to folks. Grab your grab
your pans, grab your pieces of paper, and scribble down
(01:58):
the name Time got as one word Time Ghost History.
Time Ghost History has a great series about the Cuban
missile crisis on YouTube, so it's free to watch. It's
a sixteen episode playlist called the Cuban Missile Crisis Day
(02:22):
by Day. The episode's average about fourteen minutes and host
Indian Idell takes viewers through the crisis day by day
with two episodes giving the lead up to the crisis.
And again, the episodes are on a playlist, So you
(02:44):
can go to Time Ghost History's channel and find the
playlist called the Cuban Missile Crisis Day by Day and
you can start with the first one and bench watch
through to the last. And you know, before I don't
have an opportunity to do it again, I want to
give one more nod to Vassili Alexandrovitch Arkaipov. He was
(03:09):
a mid level Soviet naval officer who happened by almost chance,
to be on the box Trout class submarine B fifty nine.
The submarine was staying underwater for axt It was a
diesel submarine, so they needed to recharge their back right,
(03:30):
But there were American destroyers on the surface, and so
the submarine was having to stay submerged, and so it
was getting hot in there. It was getting miserable, it smelled,
it was just horrific conditions to be in. And one
(03:53):
of the destroyers decided to drop a particular class of
depth charge to encourage the submarine to come up. But
the captain of the submarine very understandably mistook it for
being a full powered depth charge, and he thought, we
(04:14):
are at war. But they're underwater, so they cannot radio
to get verification on whether or not that they were
in a state of war. And normally it would have
taken two officers to give permission to launch a nuclear torpedo,
but because our Chie five happened to be on the
(04:36):
sub that day, it required his permission as well, and
so two of the officers on the sub said, Okay,
we're in a state of war. We cannot radio to
get verification. We need to go ahead and launch our
nuclear torpedo. And he was the one man on that
submarine that said, no, no, I am not going to
(04:57):
say yes. I will not say yes until we surface
and get radio confirmation that we're in a state of war.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Reminding me of the movie uh with Sean Connery with
the submarine, I forgot the names, so Days of Hunt.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
For red ox Hove that that's what he's based on.
A true story by that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, yes, correct, But that's what this reminds me.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So what happened, Well, they they did not launch the
new obviously. Uh. They did surface to get radio confirmation,
and of course the Soviet Navy said no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
we're not at war, don't launch, no, keep that thing
in the tubes. As a matter of fact, why don't
(05:44):
you take it out of the tube and dismantled it.
You have a chance. But it really came down to
that one man, who, by the way, stayed in the
Soviet Navy and uh he uh, he reached like uh
rear admiral reached the rank of rear Admiral and and
(06:07):
he was basically in charge of the UH Naval School.
I'm not sure if it was during the Soviet era
or after the Russian Federation era began. Uh, but yeah,
he was. He was basically the head honcho at the
at the Naval academy. I you know, at that time,
(06:31):
you know, obviously a lot of people in the Soviet
navy and military and politics knew that this man was
a hero, but they could not give him public act
like they could not say, we are almost long.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So how did the how did the missiles end?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, and I'm wondering what happened the ones that wanted
to do it, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
It Black Saturday and I'm American pilot died and it
turned out that the the missile crew was not acting
with Moscow's direction, that they were actually in violation of
their orcers when they shot at the you tube. But sadly, uh,
(07:20):
you know, Anderson did did give his life for the
preservation of peace. And the other pilot was up in
Alaska and he inadvertently flew into Soviet airspace. Uh. And
so there were three events that you know, and and oh,
by the way, the Soviets very much noticed that a
(07:42):
spy plane was flying into Soviet airspace. Uh, there were
there were fighters in hot pursuit of that U two.
They were not even bothering to scramble their their messages,
like they were just talking in the open that you know,
we've got an American plane in Soviet airspace and they
(08:04):
were going to shoot it down because they had no
way of knowing is this a pilot accidentally going off
course or is this a forward aircraft in a you know,
you know, leading a bomber charge. Like they had no
way of knowing that for sure. So you had these
three things that happened that Saturday, and by the end
(08:27):
of the day, like everybody in Moscow and Washington, d c.
Were just sweating. There were military hardliners who seemed to
want a war, like they wanted a war, and you
know why, why would they have been willing to risk
nuclear war? Well my hypothesis is this, those hardliners thought
(08:52):
it was an inevitability that there was going to be
a nuclear war between the United States and the United
Soviet Union, So let's get it over with while our
stockpiles are still small enough that there's going to be
a reasonable survivability after the war. Let's just get it
done while we can survive it, because if we wait
(09:14):
another twenty years, we're not going to survive it. So
that's what I think those hardliners were thinking. I can't
prove that, but that's my hypothesis. It's Saturday, scared everybody
to death, and kruse Chef and Kennedy figured out a
way to get everything de escalated after that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And how did they do that?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, you have to understand, you got the listeners biting
all their finger nails, like what happened?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
What happened the Soviets. The Soviets withdrew their ships that
were on the way with additional nuclear missiles, and they
had made an agreement to the dismantling of the nuclear
missiles that were there. The United States promised in secret
(10:07):
to withdraw its missiles from Turkey. The the Soviet justification
for placing missiles in Cuba was because the United States
had metium range nukes in Turkey, and so the Americans said,
on the on the slide, we will remove those missiles
(10:29):
in Turkey if if you back off, you know, if
you back off your ships now, and if you promise
to dismantle the ones that are already in Cuba, which
by the way, took longer than people know, and so
they reached an agreement that everybody could could accept. Now,
Khrushchev he paid for the Cuban missile crisis with his
(10:53):
with his career. He was he was pushed out of
leadership a couple of years later. But it all started
over the Cuban missile crisis. We don't know what would
have happened to Kennedy because of course he was assassinated
the you.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Know the number.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
But I really recommended people to to go to YouTube
and to watch the Time Ghost History of documentary about
the Cuban missile crisis day by day, and there are
a number of other really good documentaries on it that
are dated over the course of a few decades. Very
(11:32):
interesting to watch. But Florida was the front line, like
Florida was the front line of what was going to
be a war. And by the way, there is a
remnant post Cuban missile crisis. The military set up the
HM sixty nine Night missile base in the Everglades and
(11:58):
that is UH that is now open to the public,
UH to you know, to go and to to see
that old UH new Nike missile base, which you know
that was two Uh. What's the name of the missiles
intercept missiles? That was an interception missile base. Uh. And
(12:22):
if you want more details about that, go to h
E V E r n p I dot r G
and I will do that one more time. E V
E r N P I dot.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
O r G.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I have never been to that missile base. I want
to go one of these days to just feel that
that moment of history.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
We're going to take a break.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Will we come back if you want to give you
a conclusion, and then let's have feedback, let's talk about Well,
I'll be happy to share everything I can remember as
a seventeen year old at the time. But there's so
many other ironic ramifications. But let me ask you. Was
there ever a movie made about the Cuban missile prices?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Oh, there have been several. Thirteen Days, Yeah, there's one.
If I recall the title correctly, it's thirteen Days has
Kevin Costner in it, and that is a very well
done movie.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well, let's talk about it. When we come back. We're
going to think of break everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
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NAKR nail file and kind of follow it because it's
all over with. Nothing happened, but the bully got backed
off and peace prevailed. We'll be right back our veteran
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Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, Patty, do you want to give a summation or
you you already did? Well?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You know, I'm hoping that we have some millennials. Uh,
and maybe you know even gen z Ers who are
listening to this. Yeah. Living through the Cold War, Uh,
you know, I was there for the you know, for
(16:03):
the last you know, a couple of decades of it.
And there was a minute of my life, about a
minute of my life when I was genuinely questioning whether
or not we were in a nuclear war. And it
was because I turned off I was heading north on
(16:23):
I ninety five. I turned off of I ninety five
headed west and lo and behold, I saw the top
of a nuclear mushroom cloud in the southwest, just about
where McDill Air Force Base should have been. And there
when I saw that, I was genuinely wondering whether or
(16:48):
not I was seeing the destruction of Tampa Bay and
McDill Air Force Base. And I stopped the car and I,
you know, looked north, and I looked south at Patrick
Air Force Base and Naval Air Station Jacksonville, because you know,
if they're hitting McDill, they're going to hit one of those.
(17:11):
And it took me not a minute before I was like, Okay,
we're not in any war. But the younger generations, I
think it's important they understand that we did live through
this period of day in, day out fear that's the
word for it, fear sure that the world could end
(17:33):
any second.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I do have this one question for you, Ralph. Did
you see President Kennedy's televised address over twenty seconds?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Okay, wow, when we've rebuilt Because Cindy and I were
talking about it, I didn't realize I was going to
get into this position about the show. But you know,
our veterans' voice is, what about fourteen thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
years old now, and we've had major historical figures here
in the studio or on the phone having conversation about
(18:03):
what they witnessed that we did not only read or
heard about. And now I'm on the other end, and
now I'm wear a different hat than the hose everything
with the Cuban missile crisis at the time. And now
let's kind of relocate ourselves for a minute. When we're
(18:23):
at the house right now, are in the office? What
size television sets are you looking at? You're looking at
flat screen forty fifty sixty, seventy eighty square inches. We
had twenty or thirty or fifteen square inches. There were
little boxes or if you had the Magnavox furniture thing,
(18:44):
maybe it was twenty four inch. They were small, and
there were black and white.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
There was no color.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And that was corner at a corner.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yes, they were not in the middle of the living room.
You're right, They're always not in the corner.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Now, I meant the size wise, it went from corn
in the corner on the screen. I don't think it
was a cross.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Correct, but they were also strategiously placed in the corners
of room, so from each angle of opposite corners you
can because many of us were watching it all at
the same time, But the caressando did not reach the
epic of the TV the preceding action, where the newspapers
and the radio they were building it up that here's
(19:25):
what's happening every day. Once the reporter's got wind of this,
So now we're looking at the Chicago Tribune or the
Chicago Sun Times, and then we're listening to WGN, and
then of course you had CBS, NBC was the CBS, NBC,
ABC and WGN, And so now this in nineteen sixty two,
(19:48):
and every day we're reading it in the paper, and
in those days, everybody was still reading the newspapers.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And then finally.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
We're told on that particular Saturday, Sunday, whatever, that President
Kennedy is going to be making a major announcement about
an explanation where and what is happening. That became what
we now know as a Cuban missile crisis. And bottom line,
(20:17):
I remember seeing the American Navy.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Imagine a t. They literally blocked a Russian.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Ship from entering the Cuban waters, literally blocked that could
not proceed, and they didn't nobody knew what was going
to happen. Is a Russian ship going to block crash
into the American or what nobody knew.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But you saw this every day.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
You heard about the U two planes, you heard about
the killing, the shooting down, and all this now is
on TV live and I'm watching it. I'm about seventeen
and a half, I'll be eighteen and January, and I
remember it like yesterday, and I got my goosebumps. But
what you reported is exactly what we saw on those
(21:10):
little televisions, black and white and the huge items and
they're on flat screen.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
They take a corner away from the living room.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
And nobody had a lot of He had one TV
and house, nobody had two or three. So the Cressando's unbelievable.
And the bottom line is we all said, and that's
one of the reasons my generation loved Kennedy, not just
because the jackie or the beauty and you know whatever,
(21:41):
it was, because he had the kahonus to stand up
at his age in his forties to Russia, the krusse
Chev and he said, ah, you ain't doing this to us. Yeah,
we've been in the Cold War for all these years.
Ah stops now because we in control. But everybody had
(22:02):
to say face now. We didn't know that at the time,
but you report it. Basically is look, you get out
of there and here's what we'll do, so kind of
make you feel a little better.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But Crucief was a done deal.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
He lost his power as a political figure in Russia.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Before we go, I want to get one more nod.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't have a lot of time to.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Major Rudolph Rudy Anderson. He was the one fatality in
the Cuban missile crisis. If any man has ever given
his life for the preservation of peace, it was him.
And you know, I'll appreciate Rudy Anderson.
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Graver sa
And we're back on ARVID and ZIS Radio showing Ralph
nathan Oco.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hello everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's very important to understand we're very picky about the
shows that we present to you and share with you.
And in this particular case, uh, you know, when Patty
and I communicate on a very regular basis, what do
we want to discuss? And when we did, the Cuban
missile crisis thing came up, I jumped all over it
(00:37):
because I was in Illinois and Chicago at the time
in nineteen sixty two, the middle of my high school career,
so to speak. So it affected me as a Chicago
and remember not as a Freuridian.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So but what I want.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
To do is Patty, complete your story, because you're doing
absolutely magnificent job of describing step by step, and I
think we're going to have more than ample time that
we can communicate afterwards. Cindy, you, Patty and I Ralph
to share the different viewpoints at different levels or stages
(01:16):
of our lives and what I went through when it
was in nineteen sixty two, and all the ironies of
how everything that works out, and that you know, the
little pieces of the puzzle and all of a sudden.
You got a picture, so you've you've presented some of
the puzzle pieces.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Finish her up, baby, And well, I've got to say,
the Cuban missile crisis is a really huge topic and
very much worthwhile, uh studying for everybody. So I want
to throw out this recommendation to folks. Grab your grab
your pans, grab your pieces of paper, and scribble down
(01:58):
the name Time got as one word Time Ghost History.
Time Ghost History has a great series about the Cuban
missile crisis on YouTube, so it's free to watch. It's
a sixteen episode playlist called the Cuban Missile Crisis Day
(02:22):
by Day. The episode's average about fourteen minutes and host
Indian Idell takes viewers through the crisis day by day
with two episodes giving the lead up to the crisis.
And again, the episodes are on a playlist, So you
(02:44):
can go to Time Ghost History's channel and find the
playlist called the Cuban Missile Crisis Day by Day and
you can start with the first one and bench watch
through to the last. And you know, before I don't
have an opportunity to do it again, I want to
give one more nod to Vassili Alexandrovitch Arkaipov. He was
(03:09):
a mid level Soviet naval officer who happened by almost chance,
to be on the box Trout class submarine B fifty nine.
The submarine was staying underwater for axt It was a
diesel submarine, so they needed to recharge their back right,
(03:30):
But there were American destroyers on the surface, and so
the submarine was having to stay submerged, and so it
was getting hot in there. It was getting miserable, it smelled,
it was just horrific conditions to be in. And one
(03:53):
of the destroyers decided to drop a particular class of
depth charge to encourage the submarine to come up. But
the captain of the submarine very understandably mistook it for
being a full powered depth charge, and he thought, we
(04:14):
are at war. But they're underwater, so they cannot radio
to get verification on whether or not that they were
in a state of war. And normally it would have
taken two officers to give permission to launch a nuclear torpedo,
but because our Chie five happened to be on the
(04:36):
sub that day, it required his permission as well, and
so two of the officers on the sub said, Okay,
we're in a state of war. We cannot radio to
get verification. We need to go ahead and launch our
nuclear torpedo. And he was the one man on that
submarine that said, no, no, I am not going to
(04:57):
say yes. I will not say yes until we surface
and get radio confirmation that we're in a state of war.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Reminding me of the movie uh with Sean Connery with
the submarine, I forgot the names, so Days of Hunt.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
For red ox Hove that that's what he's based on.
A true story by that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, yes, correct, But that's what this reminds me.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So what happened, Well, they they did not launch the
new obviously. Uh. They did surface to get radio confirmation,
and of course the Soviet Navy said no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
we're not at war, don't launch, no, keep that thing
in the tubes. As a matter of fact, why don't
(05:44):
you take it out of the tube and dismantled it.
You have a chance. But it really came down to
that one man, who, by the way, stayed in the
Soviet Navy and uh he uh, he reached like uh
rear admiral reached the rank of rear Admiral and and
(06:07):
he was basically in charge of the UH Naval School.
I'm not sure if it was during the Soviet era
or after the Russian Federation era began. Uh, but yeah,
he was. He was basically the head honcho at the
at the Naval academy. I you know, at that time,
(06:31):
you know, obviously a lot of people in the Soviet
navy and military and politics knew that this man was
a hero, but they could not give him public act
like they could not say, we are almost long.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So how did the how did the missiles end?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, and I'm wondering what happened the ones that wanted
to do it, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
It Black Saturday and I'm American pilot died and it
turned out that the the missile crew was not acting
with Moscow's direction, that they were actually in violation of
their orcers when they shot at the you tube. But sadly, uh,
(07:20):
you know, Anderson did did give his life for the
preservation of peace. And the other pilot was up in
Alaska and he inadvertently flew into Soviet airspace. Uh. And
so there were three events that you know, and and oh,
by the way, the Soviets very much noticed that a
(07:42):
spy plane was flying into Soviet airspace. Uh, there were
there were fighters in hot pursuit of that U two.
They were not even bothering to scramble their their messages,
like they were just talking in the open that you know,
we've got an American plane in Soviet airspace and they
(08:04):
were going to shoot it down because they had no
way of knowing is this a pilot accidentally going off
course or is this a forward aircraft in a you know,
you know, leading a bomber charge. Like they had no
way of knowing that for sure. So you had these
three things that happened that Saturday, and by the end
(08:27):
of the day, like everybody in Moscow and Washington, d c.
Were just sweating. There were military hardliners who seemed to
want a war, like they wanted a war, and you
know why, why would they have been willing to risk
nuclear war? Well my hypothesis is this, those hardliners thought
(08:52):
it was an inevitability that there was going to be
a nuclear war between the United States and the United
Soviet Union, So let's get it over with while our
stockpiles are still small enough that there's going to be
a reasonable survivability after the war. Let's just get it
done while we can survive it, because if we wait
(09:14):
another twenty years, we're not going to survive it. So
that's what I think those hardliners were thinking. I can't
prove that, but that's my hypothesis. It's Saturday, scared everybody
to death, and kruse Chef and Kennedy figured out a
way to get everything de escalated after that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And how did they do that?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, you have to understand, you got the listeners biting
all their finger nails, like what happened?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
What happened the Soviets. The Soviets withdrew their ships that
were on the way with additional nuclear missiles, and they
had made an agreement to the dismantling of the nuclear
missiles that were there. The United States promised in secret
(10:07):
to withdraw its missiles from Turkey. The the Soviet justification
for placing missiles in Cuba was because the United States
had metium range nukes in Turkey, and so the Americans said,
on the on the slide, we will remove those missiles
(10:29):
in Turkey if if you back off, you know, if
you back off your ships now, and if you promise
to dismantle the ones that are already in Cuba, which
by the way, took longer than people know, and so
they reached an agreement that everybody could could accept. Now,
Khrushchev he paid for the Cuban missile crisis with his
(10:53):
with his career. He was he was pushed out of
leadership a couple of years later. But it all started
over the Cuban missile crisis. We don't know what would
have happened to Kennedy because of course he was assassinated
the you.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Know the number.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
But I really recommended people to to go to YouTube
and to watch the Time Ghost History of documentary about
the Cuban missile crisis day by day, and there are
a number of other really good documentaries on it that
are dated over the course of a few decades. Very
(11:32):
interesting to watch. But Florida was the front line, like
Florida was the front line of what was going to
be a war. And by the way, there is a
remnant post Cuban missile crisis. The military set up the
HM sixty nine Night missile base in the Everglades and
(11:58):
that is UH that is now open to the public,
UH to you know, to go and to to see
that old UH new Nike missile base, which you know
that was two Uh. What's the name of the missiles
intercept missiles? That was an interception missile base. Uh. And
(12:22):
if you want more details about that, go to h
E V E r n p I dot r G
and I will do that one more time. E V
E r N P I dot.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
O r G.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I have never been to that missile base. I want
to go one of these days to just feel that
that moment of history.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
We're going to take a break.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Will we come back if you want to give you
a conclusion, and then let's have feedback, let's talk about Well,
I'll be happy to share everything I can remember as
a seventeen year old at the time. But there's so
many other ironic ramifications. But let me ask you. Was
there ever a movie made about the Cuban missile prices?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Oh, there have been several. Thirteen Days, Yeah, there's one.
If I recall the title correctly, it's thirteen Days has
Kevin Costner in it, and that is a very well
done movie.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well, let's talk about it. When we come back. We're
going to think of break everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You can now start driving, remove your fingernails and cut
NAKR nail file and kind of follow it because it's
all over with. Nothing happened, but the bully got backed
off and peace prevailed. We'll be right back our veteran
voice radio.
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Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Who X me up too?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
It does all veterans.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I's ready anybody?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, Patty, do you want to give a summation or
you you already did? Well?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You know, I'm hoping that we have some millennials. Uh,
and maybe you know even gen z Ers who are
listening to this. Yeah. Living through the Cold War, Uh,
you know, I was there for the you know, for
(16:03):
the last you know, a couple of decades of it.
And there was a minute of my life, about a
minute of my life when I was genuinely questioning whether
or not we were in a nuclear war. And it
was because I turned off I was heading north on
(16:23):
I ninety five. I turned off of I ninety five
headed west and lo and behold, I saw the top
of a nuclear mushroom cloud in the southwest, just about
where McDill Air Force Base should have been. And there
when I saw that, I was genuinely wondering whether or
(16:48):
not I was seeing the destruction of Tampa Bay and
McDill Air Force Base. And I stopped the car and I,
you know, looked north, and I looked south at Patrick
Air Force Base and Naval Air Station Jacksonville, because you know,
if they're hitting McDill, they're going to hit one of those.
(17:11):
And it took me not a minute before I was like, Okay,
we're not in any war. But the younger generations, I
think it's important they understand that we did live through
this period of day in, day out fear that's the
word for it, fear sure that the world could end
(17:33):
any second.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I do have this one question for you, Ralph. Did
you see President Kennedy's televised address over twenty seconds?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Okay, wow, when we've rebuilt Because Cindy and I were
talking about it, I didn't realize I was going to
get into this position about the show. But you know,
our veterans' voice is, what about fourteen thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
years old now, and we've had major historical figures here
in the studio or on the phone having conversation about
(18:03):
what they witnessed that we did not only read or
heard about. And now I'm on the other end, and
now I'm wear a different hat than the hose everything
with the Cuban missile crisis at the time. And now
let's kind of relocate ourselves for a minute. When we're
(18:23):
at the house right now, are in the office? What
size television sets are you looking at? You're looking at
flat screen forty fifty sixty, seventy eighty square inches. We
had twenty or thirty or fifteen square inches. There were
little boxes or if you had the Magnavox furniture thing,
(18:44):
maybe it was twenty four inch. They were small, and
there were black and white.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
There was no color.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And that was corner at a corner.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yes, they were not in the middle of the living room.
You're right, They're always not in the corner.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Now, I meant the size wise, it went from corn
in the corner on the screen. I don't think it
was a cross.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Correct, but they were also strategiously placed in the corners
of room, so from each angle of opposite corners you
can because many of us were watching it all at
the same time, But the caressando did not reach the
epic of the TV the preceding action, where the newspapers
and the radio they were building it up that here's
(19:25):
what's happening every day. Once the reporter's got wind of this,
So now we're looking at the Chicago Tribune or the
Chicago Sun Times, and then we're listening to WGN, and
then of course you had CBS, NBC was the CBS, NBC,
ABC and WGN, And so now this in nineteen sixty two,
(19:48):
and every day we're reading it in the paper, and
in those days, everybody was still reading the newspapers.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And then finally.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
We're told on that particular Saturday, Sunday, whatever, that President
Kennedy is going to be making a major announcement about
an explanation where and what is happening. That became what
we now know as a Cuban missile crisis. And bottom line,
(20:17):
I remember seeing the American Navy.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Imagine a t. They literally blocked a Russian.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Ship from entering the Cuban waters, literally blocked that could
not proceed, and they didn't nobody knew what was going
to happen. Is a Russian ship going to block crash
into the American or what nobody knew.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But you saw this every day.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
You heard about the U two planes, you heard about
the killing, the shooting down, and all this now is
on TV live and I'm watching it. I'm about seventeen
and a half, I'll be eighteen and January, and I
remember it like yesterday, and I got my goosebumps. But
what you reported is exactly what we saw on those
(21:10):
little televisions, black and white and the huge items and
they're on flat screen.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
They take a corner away from the living room.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
And nobody had a lot of He had one TV
and house, nobody had two or three. So the Cressando's unbelievable.
And the bottom line is we all said, and that's
one of the reasons my generation loved Kennedy, not just
because the jackie or the beauty and you know whatever,
(21:41):
it was, because he had the kahonus to stand up
at his age in his forties to Russia, the krusse
Chev and he said, ah, you ain't doing this to us. Yeah,
we've been in the Cold War for all these years.
Ah stops now because we in control. But everybody had
(22:02):
to say face now. We didn't know that at the time,
but you report it. Basically is look, you get out
of there and here's what we'll do, so kind of
make you feel a little better.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But Crucief was a done deal.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
He lost his power as a political figure in Russia.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Before we go, I want to get one more nod.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't have a lot of time to.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Major Rudolph Rudy Anderson. He was the one fatality in
the Cuban missile crisis. If any man has ever given
his life for the preservation of peace, it was him.
And you know, I'll appreciate Rudy Anderson.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And you know who else appreciates him. The Highwayman, the
Florida Hall of Fame high Woman, because on November thirtieth,
remember today's November twenty ninth. It's a Saturday tomorrow at
forty third Avenue and fourth Street at Temple Bus Shalom
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(23:10):
Norman Wright legacy, and you're going to see the paintings
of majority of the Highwaymen as well as the second generation.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So join us and Patty.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Fantastic job, super super job, you really did. I'm proud
of you and everybody out there. If you want to
continue talking or hearing about this, give me a call.
I'll be happy to share it with you. Nine five
four five five seven six two two six, And thank
you to the Highwayman Art Gallery at eighteen seventy two
Commerce Avenue in biro Beach, uh.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Stanley's Dan Griffiths Junior Army.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Edward Richard Hansbury First Responder.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
William Billy Columbus Driscoll, Junior Army Vietnamlord Angelo Rulford, Junior Navy,
James Fithian.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Navy, Doctor Irene Margaret Mickey Acosta Alliance First Responder.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Keith A. Thompson Navy, Vietnam, Ellen.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Lee Houpman Army Vietnam.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And our local Reverend William Buddy Lee Tipton Navy.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
God bless all of you and all of our other
fallen heroes. Thank you for your service. We proudly salute you.
Rest in peace with our blessings forever.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
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