Veteran's Day

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're tuned to Evergreen Media Network. I am Cydy Schwartz
and this is our Veterans Voice radio show with your
host Ralph Nathan.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'll go hello, everybody. I'm excited today for you. Now,
today is November eighth. Well, what's that big deal? Well
after eight? What comes nine? Right? And then ten? And
now the big deal? What's November eleventh? Everybody, that's the

(00:38):
big deal. So Cindy and I plan this well in
advance so that we can be with you the weekend
before and remind you about Veterans Day. Now, if you
think about Veterans Day, you also automatically think of Memorial Day.
So what I'm going to do today, I'm not going

(00:58):
to play mister profe, Yes sir, I'm going to play
mister entertainment. With Cindy's help. What I want to do
is not going to a lot of facts unless unnecessary,
but I want to regress a little bit. I want
to go back about give a take to twenty twelve
or twenty thirteen, twenty eleven, twenty twelve, So you talk

(01:21):
about fourteen to fifteen years ago, a thirteen to fourteen
years ago, and my ex partner and I Larry Wapnick
and I were already doing radio show and Vlarry is
going to do Veterans Day in Sebastian with the military
and yours surly. Ralph is a Jetsons in Fort Pierce

(01:46):
doing a veterans show there, and that evening I'm talking
to Larry and I asked casas Larry, I got something crazy,
this is stupid, maybe, but I got a question for you.
Did you ever get the feeling up in Sebastian that
people really don't know the difference and distinguish what is

(02:07):
Memorial Day as compared to Veterans Day? And he said,
it's funny that you asked me because you had the
same feeling that they too.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, and that's nationwide, Yes, it's yeah, nationwide.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Maybe the easiest way I can help you remember Memorial Day,
your memorialize when somebody has passed away.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
So and we see it, Ralph, you and I and
we've talked about it on shows that so many organizations, media,
on and on. It will expound happy Memorial Day didn't
with all of the fireworks, and she didn't. And it's
not it's exactly the opposite.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
You remember last year you came in here you were,
you were you were ticked, you were burning because you
were someplace and the flag was dilapidated, and the martis
said happy Memorial Day.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, yeah, it was a place that should have known better.
I don't want to be judgmental, but I was really
surprised that that's where it was.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I say, have a good Memorial Day. Yeah, that's the
best I can come up with. But Veterans Day. So
Memorial Day really what it is. It started in the
eighteen sixties, grew out of the Civil War, and Memorial
Day commemorates specifically in honors those who have died in

(03:34):
military service.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Memorial you know what it's like to me, Ralph, I
just thought about this. It's like if you go to
if you go to a funeral, because that's what that was,
and then you have a wake and the people like
play homage to and respect to the people that have passed. Yes,
that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
And by the way, you know, let's take a minute. Everybody,
you know, all of us have the same problem. We
know somebody has passed and now we're going to go
pay our respects, and we all feel like we got
to say something. Sometimes you've just been there holding their
hand or giving them a hug or a kiss, or
licking in their eyes and letting them look at you.

(04:15):
That's the best message you can give them, because you're
saying I'm here for you, I feel for you, and
I'm sorry. But if you do feel like you've got
to say something, please don't say I've been there and
I know how you feel, or I feel so bad
and here's what me I should get. Don't don't. They
don't want advice, they want solace, they want sympathy, they

(04:38):
want compassion. At that moment, all you can do is
look at them and say I'm so sorry, I love
you and I feel for you, and if there's anything
I can do, call me and move on.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
But mean it, yeah, yeah, Well it's the company and
the socialization of it. And I don't mean that disrespectfully.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
That's why it's just a coincidence that we're talking. But
I'm not. You know, we so you understand on an
our show, everybody, we have forty eight minutes and you
got twelve twelve, twelve for the commercials. At twelve, I
mean not twelve twelve minutes. Forty eight and twelve is
sixty so but so we're very conscious of it. But

(05:22):
Cindy and I I Cindy. All I can tell you
is I've had a lot of partners and a lot
of different relationships where the sports, entertainment, hobby, work life,
and I just want to say thank you. You have
no idea how pleasure it is that I can call
you I got a scheduling problem, or I call you

(05:42):
and I can't do something, can you help me? Or
I just freeze up and I know you're going to cover.
So thank you. I just I don't want you to
ever think I take you for granted.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Now I don't feel that way. Thank you my.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Pleasure for my heart. Now. So why is Veterans Day
observed and what does it signify? What it's it all about.
We've told you about Memorial Day, and we're not going
to go into the may in the days. We're going
to talk about Veterans Day. That's the happy day, well
the major really the veterans. They used to be called

(06:16):
Armistice Day until in the nineteen fifties. But we'll get
to that. It's really observed annually in November eleven. We'll
get to it. The minute honoring the military veterans it
doesn't say death, it doesn't say deceased, it doesn't say
date died. It's honoring military veteran. If you have served

(06:38):
in the military. Fortunately, if you passed away, we honor
you in Memorial Day. But on Veterans Day, we honor
all those who have passed away and who are still
alive and possibly even active. So we're saying thank you
to all the veterans of all categories of branches. Of course.

(07:02):
Uh so, the World War One was called the Great War. Well,
give me a bottle of booze. Hit me on the
head with the baseball bat, chop me in the feet,
knock me down, kick me in the head, and I
will still not understand on any war can be called
the Great War. I'm sorry. There's nothing great about a war.

(07:23):
Nobody wins.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, there's no winners. I think it's because of the
theater of it.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
You know, with the mass size of it.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Correct, that's what I that's what.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I never looked into it, because honestly, I don't think.
I think in my mind is closed. I just don't
want to call it the Great War. Call it the
Tyrrellle War, but don't call it the Great War.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, because you're thinking it as an accolade, and I
don't think it is. I think it's a designation that
it was so many people involved. Look at the One
Hundred Years War.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
It's like an adjive instead of a pronoun. Correct. Okay,
So the major hostility is World War One. The end
the war's over on the eleventh hour of the eleventh
day of the eleventh month, November eleventh, at eleven am
in nineteen eighteen, that's when the armistice went with Germany

(08:12):
went into effect. Armistice Day was renamed Veterans Day in
nineteen fifty four when ex General President President Eisenhower signed
the bill. And honestly, Armistice was good for World War One.
Veterans Day is good for entire history of all of

(08:32):
our veterans. And God bless all of you for serving
in the American military. But we're going to have a
lot of tidbits here talking about the Veterans Day, which
because of World War One. So the just the mere
fact that we could talk about it, to share it

(08:53):
with you is wonderful. So in nineteen thirty eight, Congress
approved moved that on November eleventh will be a legal
holiday quote a Day to be dedicated to the cause
of world peace and to be thereafter celebrated and known
as Armistice Day. Nineteen thirty eight. Nineteen fifty four, President

(09:16):
I has now signed the Congressional bill that became Veterans Day,
and it's been known as Veterans Day since now. Originally,
this is something you want to you have to everyone understand. Originally,
the scheduled celebration for November eleventh was every year on

(09:39):
November eleventh. But in nineteen seventy one the Uniform Monday
Holiday Act, where they wanted to place holidays on Mondays
so you'd have a three day weekend. So the Uniform
Mondayday Monday Holiday Act move Veterans Day to the fourth
Monday of October October twenty fifth, Actomber twenty third, and

(09:59):
so on. But nobody liked it. And that's what's so
great about this country. We're able to make changes. In
nineteen seventy eight, finally it was moved back to its
original celebration November eleventh. Now, while the legal holiday remains
November eleventh, if it falls on a Savary Sunday, then

(10:20):
it goes recedes back to the day before Friday. Or
the next day Monday.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
I always thought that was odd that they not to
get back to Memorial Day, that there was always when
I was a kid, you know, one hundred years ago,
it was always May thirtieth, and that's you're right, and
that's now it's part of them. It's always stayed part
of the Monday holidays. So I always wondered about that,
Now do.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
You when you would? Now I'm older than you are.
But when I went to school, I remember Memorial Day
the schools were closed. In Veterans Day the schools were closed. Yes.
And now I went to Grammar School from nineteen fifty
eight because I came here in nineteen fifty seven because
I came here from Israel, so fifty seven six and
we're still called elementary school and then high school. But

(11:03):
you still had those two holidays. And I remember when
in Grammar School, the Jeffrey Theater used to have specials
on Memorial Day, Veterans Day, Columbus Day. I think for
a dollar or something, you could be in the movie
house the theater all day.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, way they did that where I was as a
kid too. I want to say Election Day we were
off too. I think school was closed on election day.
I went to school in New York, So I'm.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Going to make you laugh. You just said election day, right, Yeah,
now everyone's off on election day for the next quession anyway.
Uh So, what I want to do is today is
we're going to take a quick break after this. What
I want to do when we get back, We're gonna
I'm not going to go through all the details of

(11:50):
the reasons of the war. I'll give you just a general,
real quick, uh outline, without specifics except a couple. But
what I do I want to discuss with you is
what did we learn? What did we learn from World
War One? And we didn't learn it after World War One?

(12:10):
We learned it way after World War One? And you
have no idea what I'm talking about. So good, We'll
take a break and when you come back, we've got
some interesting items to talk to you about. And we
have a very special memorial at the end of our
show before taps, from our hearts to our veterans. We'll

(12:30):
be right back appropriately our Veterans Voice Radio, your radio,
your show.

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Speaker 1 (14:15):
And welcome back to Orbit and Zoys Radio showing Ralph
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Speaker 2 (14:19):
Thank you for being with us. I have to explain
to you, Cindy and I would love to play a
lot of other songs, but since we've gone to podcasts, uh,
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pleasant music that's appropriate because they're all copyrighted.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
And here we got to be mindful, so we have
to be read.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
That's why I forgive us that we just have a
problem with the music that we would like. So what
did what? What was? What? What did we learned? What
caused the war? World War two? World War one? Excuse me? Well,
part of the problem was that, uh, well we'll first

(15:02):
let's go backwards. What did we learned from World War One? One?
Is that diplomacy and I think we're proving that nowadays,
to some excepense, diplomacy must be exhausted before force is used.
That war is unpredictable, and that the consequences I'm reading
and the consequences of war can be devastating for all involved.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I e.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Quote my quote, there is no winner in the war.
Everybody loses. A war developed that World War One led
to the development of new technologies, establishment of international organization
i e. League of Nations, which later on was replaced
by the United Nations, a withdrawing of global political map,

(15:47):
and profound social cultural changes the war. World War One
also revealed that modern warfare required new military strategies. And
that's one of the reasons sometimes you get the impression
that the military throughout the world is all gung ho
for war, because that's when they get a chance to
use new technologies, new strategies, new soldiers. World War one

(16:16):
is airplane, submarines. And then international relations and political systems
are needed to adapt changing times. But what really to
me the most significant, and you'll see them as weren't
coming from because you've heard this before. In another way,

(16:37):
the World War One is over. The United States entered
it almost at the end, but the end of the
World War One, the United States was recognized and became
of respected world power for the first time internationally.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
It superseded angles.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
And that leads to the next thing. What does well
we boys all you I don't know about you ladies
and women, but we boys have all been fighting. We're kids.
We fight right or wrong, it's a immaterial But what

(17:21):
so a bully picks on you, beats you up, it
leaves you there right, Or a bully comes to you
and he wants to beat you up, and you punch
him in the face and anywhere else. You beat him.
Now he's down and you're still up. And what do
you do. You bend down, You give him a hand

(17:44):
and help them get up. And now you've established a
new relationship of mutual respect and therefore communication and assistance.
So now what am I talking about? What did you
Notedge States towe after World War Two? Opposite of what
we did in World War One? We beat out daylights

(18:08):
out of Germany, We kicked out you know what out
of Japan. And they were the bullies, weren't they. And
we bent down and we picked them up. And they
have become our allies, nearly our best friends. Internationally Germany
in Japan, World War One was the opposite. Germany was

(18:30):
accused and had to sign legal document at testing that
World War One was their fault and they're responsible for
the costs of the lives and the devastation of World
War One. And what we did, the League of Nations

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and the Versailles Treaty of nineteen eighteen is we tied
their hands, we tied their feet, we clocked up their factories,
and we said, now pay us back. And Germany says,
but we can are hands are tied, feet are tide,
and we're broke, and we're broke, we have no money.

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And this is early nineteen twenties, late nineteen ninety not
even depression yet. And now you put pad locks on
a factory, and you told us what we can't do.
And then comes Hitler and says, hey, you we're not
going to take this. We're not going to take it.
And he cuts the shackles off and you unlocks and says,
you know what, screw you guys. We're gonna build a

(19:32):
machine and we're gonna blame all of you for causing
us what. We we're so poor. Forgive the analogy if
it's obnoxious. That's another way of explaining NiFe. Hitler would
have been a positive God what he could have done
for this world, but he was a negative. He had
to have a dog to kick or dogs. Point is,

(19:54):
we devastated Germany and we made him pay for it.
World War Two is a direct effect and caused by
the results of World War One.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
They paid for it.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
The whole world paid for it, absolutely, because there comes
to World War two.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Now world War two, but first let's go to World
War One. Now we know World War two is the
worst in the history of the world as far as
how many people died. I don't want to get into
too many details, but world War One I had so
many countries involved because if you remember back to eighteen

(20:35):
hundreds Europe, there were no final lines, there were no
solid line. They're all dotted. They kept moving back and forth.
All the countries kept on fighting each other. So what
I'm going to do is just to understand the total
number of military and civilian casualties of World War One
about forty million, and that's nothing compared to World War Two.

(20:59):
Estimates range for fifteen to twenty two dead about twenty
three wounded military personnel. About two thirds of the military
deaths in World War One died in battle. Now there's
a ton of lists of how many what do you
call countries were involved. Let me just give you an

(21:21):
approximate some of the countries, and you had Allies in
the Central Powers. Allies were the good guys. Central Powers
were the Germany and the bad guys. Now here. This
is something Cindy you explained to me because these countries,
some of these countries were far away from Europe, but
they were involved in World War one and two. Australia

(21:44):
lost about sixty thousand soldiers. Canada lost about seventy sixty
five thousand, England about a million, the British Empire a
million and a quarter, Belgium one and thirty thousand, France
a million and three quarters. Really yeah, wow, almost two million,

(22:06):
Greece one hundred and seventy thousand, Italy a million. Two
that's the good guys. That's after Mussolini was killed or before.
Excuse me. Romania, of all places, Romania six hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
And that's a tiny country.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Russia two point nine million, almost three million, Serbia a million.
Total Allied Powers about ten million Central Powers Austria, Hungary,
two million, Bulgaria one hundred eighty five thousand, Germany two

(22:47):
point seven million Ottoman which is a bunch of different
little countries put together three million total Central Powers, seven
million people soldiers, so many people from the two sides.
So I tried to give you some of the reasons.
If you remember. Also, by the way, you had the

(23:09):
Luke Archibald Ferdinand that was assassinated, You had the Lusitania,
the Germany torpedoed, and I think like fifteen or fourteen
hundred American people died, but we didn't declare war. Then
it was towards the end of the war that we
have Americans became involved. But I want to talk to

(23:32):
you about the Treaty of Versailles because that ended the
military and then entered the into the peace conversation about
World War One. So think about what we've been telling you,
because I'm going to keep coming back to what have

(23:52):
we learned? I keep saying that I just did that
with Patty a few weeks ago. What did we learn?
If you can learn from mistakes and the mistakes are
not for naught, we did learn and the treaty of
her side will talk about. So we're going to take

(24:12):
a short break and when we come back, we'll talk
about the Treaty of her sides and the ramifications of
the piece in overview of World War One, the prelude
to World War Two. And then we will have our
heartfelt feelings sincerely from Cindy in my heart to our

(24:37):
veterans and share it with you with flanders Field. Ah,
what's flanders Field? We'll tell you before we'll be right back. Everybody,
thanks for being with us. The Pretty m