Ep. 159 - Norwegian Werewolves - Paranormal Punchers

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On those servers, Yeah, theservers, the code there could be
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you know. And the funny thingis our topic today is where Wolf

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Viking Werewolves? Which Nash this wasyour pick yep. We're also going to
talk about the movie on Netflix calledViking Wolf. Nash this was your pick
yep. And these are all rightup Day's alley, so many days away
and can't be on the show.We picked topics. He with one topic.
I want to make him jealous soyou never want them to leave again,

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All right? Are you ready todive in to Viking werewolves? Hold
on, this is Nash's pick.Nash, would you like to kick things
off? It sounds like Alicia,you should help kick things up. I
did not take my magic mind this. Sorry, all right. So,

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in Norwegian folklore, the werewolf orwe're okay, I need to preface everything
with some of these words will mispronounceyes and offend anybody exact and I apologize.
So in Norwegian folklore, the werewolfor borrow is a type of shape

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shifter or ham looper. What hamloper? Okay, I'm assuming that's how you
say it, but it's that's ashape shifter. Um. Now, there
is another type of shape shifter iscalled a man Jordan or man bear.
It was once believed that certain peoplecould transform into a wolf or a bear,

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but it was usually because this abilitywas due to a curse given to
them by trollmen. But also Iread or came across that a curse or
their actual sorcerers. Yes, thatcan change. Now I have said they
can transform into wearing wolves or Idon't know where I found this passage or
house bears house bearers that it couldhave been a translation issue, but I'm

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like that one word isn't enough,right you imagine, like you're you,
you can transform into a how spare? I don't know what that just hanging
out the house watching the Simpsons drinkinga beer. I don't know, I
don't know what I mean. Ikind of I think it's pretty cool.
I could be domesticated bears. Yeah, yeah, you know, I wonder

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if you could teach a house bearto like some some people tease their dog
to go get them a beer outof the fridge. What if you had
a house bear doing that. Myeah, especially since they can stand on
their back to Yeah. All right, Sorry, I feel like that did
derail it slightly. It's all goodthough. That was funny, all right.
So I also came across the Norwegianwerewolves. They don't have the same

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characteristics as werewolves of like literature orfilms. Um, so very different.
Yeah, these werewolves they don't needthe moon to change. Um Now,
whenever I show my moon, mywife's attitude does change a little bit.
So that's different though, Well that'sfor other reasons. Yeah. See,

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they don't know. They don't needthe moon to change into a wolf,
but do often become more Nobody needsthe moon to change into a wolf.
That'd be horrible, that's right,okay, but do often become more ferocious
and wolf like in the evening,so like it's more of an evening type
of thing anyway, Yes, itis. Even though they can't control changing

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into a werewolf, they can usuallysense when it's going to happen as well.
When they change, they actually puta skin on, like a wolf
skin. Yeah. And because ofthis, you can apparently cure a werewolf
by finding and burning the skin orstabbing it. Yeah. So I was

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reading the exact same thing, andI'm thinking to myself, I just that
whatever that idea, I think we'regoing to come back to that. Okay,
there's some other things later in whatwe're talking about that will kind of
double back into what's happening with wolvesin Norway right now? Well, you
know that is one of the manymiss Or legends involving the were wolf is

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these furs. It's the story ofa Sigmunder and Siven sinful, the Sigmund
and sing vote lead myth. Imispronounced all that, and I apologize,
but it is the story about afather and son du Well that were thieves.
So they found there was this,uh, this house of this wealthy

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people, and I think nobody wasthere. So they snuck in and they're
these wolf hides like above the fireplace, and they're like awesome. They took
them and they just felt like compelledto put these on, and then they
kind of transform, you know,they got their long teeth, they started
walking on all fours, and theywere overcome with this blood rage, and

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they went on at killing spree.Uh, and they ran into a group
out in the middle of the foes. They werewolf their heck out of those
people. And in this blood rage, Sigmunder turned on his son and killed
his son. And then when hetook the hide off return to human form,

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and I feel like he felt like, oh, this is horrible,
and I one story, he usedsome herbs and elixirs toy. Uh.
So they were like, all right, uh, we need to burn these
pelts. We should never put themback on. And they burned the pelts
and that's the story hopefully. Yeah, it was that the same kind of

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the same story you can get basically. Yeah, um yeah, I read
that it was luxurious wolfskins. Sothey were like, well, obviously we
need to take these because they're cool. But anyway, uh. In some
of the folklore also the werewolves,Um, they're almost always men. It's

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not usually the females that this ishappening to you, But there is a
female shape shifter. It's called themayor. Now, the mayor will sit
on their victim's chest while they're sleepingand give them bad dreams. Yeah,
that's exciting, I know. Soso I think that's called something else,

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but I might have a different namehere in the States. Um, but
Mark, when you wake up,if Alicia is sitting on your chest kind
of doing this weaving thing in yourbrain, I mean, that's just it.
I mean, I don't you knowwhat. I don't think what you
do. I don't want to knowwhat you would do. I want to
talk about it. You guys areinto whatever you're into now. Also,

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silver is not a deterrent um forNorwegian werewolves and it doesn't really affect them
at least what I was finding,like, it doesn't really do anything for
them. Well, actually, goingback to the whole Mayor thing, it
said that in their folklore that ifa pregnant woman Okay, now, this

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is if a pregnant woman crawls througha cult membrane. Oh yeah, I
did read that and I decided notto put it in my notes. Yeah,
now what that exactly means and howyou would do something like this,
right, I don't know. Andwhat the hell they're referring to as a
membrane, right, and the logisticsbehind this I'm excited to watch. Um

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Oh really yeah, well not likeI don't know. I'm just confused by
the whole thing. I didn't know. You're over there in the corner with
your popcorn. I'm like, letme see how this happens. Didn't we
have a cult membrane around so Idon't know. So, uh, a
Coults membrand the pregnancy when when there'sa birth, the birth would be totally

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painless for the pregnant woman. Uh. And then that's how you would have
one of two things, either theboy which you turn into a werewolf,
or the mayor being born. Okay, so just no, if you're at
the hospital and you're giving birth andthe nurse brings over a cult like I

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maybe in a bag or something.I'm a logistics I don't know, a
large cult membrane. I'm thinking morelike a uterus kind of a thing,
right, I don't know, andjust like puts it over your head and
makes you walk through it or crossthrough it. It could be better than
painting, now you know. ByYeah, you don't need any any other

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kind of drugs. They just needa cult membrane. Yeah, now that's
great, Dad. So werewolves they'renot as common in Norway as like trolls
or other mythological creatures, like inall their stories and stuff like that.

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Um. And there was no likewerewolf trials here, like there wasn't France
or Germany. Um. But theNorth sagas Um. They had a big
influence on werewolf folklore in Norway,especially with stories of people who can turn
into something else. Um. Ofcourse this is more of a magical power
versus a curse placed on them,um, but also Vikings. They were

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very obsessed with wolves as well aspeople who could become them, and even
had them as symbols representing their society. Yeah, I'd like to talk about
the berserkers. Oh yeah, Iwas just gonna get into that. That's
so cool. Well tag team.Uh So, these warriors known as again

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I might mispronounced this um, wouldwhen they were going into battle. According
to Viking sagas, they would bitetheir shields and make these uh these howls
fight with even with their fingernails,and supposedly experienced no pain pain in battle.
And instead of armor, they wouldwear wolf pouts and they would just

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go and do their berserker thing souh to the point where it would cause
like any towns they rated to starthaving these tails, calling them like you
know, legends of this wolf orthis man who became like a wolf,
and but they were legendary this uhthe wolf wolfdar uh that an eighteenth century

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poet uh wrote a little diddy aboutthem. Uh wolf coats they call them
that. In battle bellow into bloodyshields. They wear wolves hides when they
come into the fight and clashed theirweapons together. We need dave at this
point to put some metal. Yeah, but no, like I guess some

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of the English towns that were theywould call them where uh uh or were
being an old English word for manwhere or were wolves man wolf? Okay,
in berserk their berserk directly translated translatesto bear cloak. So that's where

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the berserker, which is awesome becausewe always hear, you know, playing
D and D we're going to you'regoing to rage and you're going to berserk
mode kind of a thing. Andyeah, and that's actually where the berserk
mode came from, was these guyswearing these bear cloaks, right yeah,
the expression to go berserk, itactually comes from this. So that's awesome,
right, well, and actually therewas another story of now this is

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another uh this is a ninth centurysaga uh from Sogan, Norway with you
oh yeah, be'all so yeah,I'm not bad. That could be better,
sure well our Norwegian listeners right now, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, I apologize. Now itlooks like good old ulf Ulf as described
as both a hammer hammer hammer ramarhammermar and a what was the one you
had then up dar dar en darThat's probably what it was, and While

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he's often in high spirits in themorning, good old Yolf gets more and
more stollen in the evening, givinghim the name veld Kveldulf evening wolf.
Yeah, Yulf's son Grimmer is ofkind of similar. At one point,
the household in the Householder are playinggames and Grimier starts off a week.

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But but because he's an elderly man. What he started off week? Because
he's an elderly there you go.But as the evening goes on, he
gets stronger and wilder, until healmost kills his own son, Egil in
a fit of uncontrolled rage. Egil, for whom the saga is named,
also inherits these traits as a berserker. Nice. For a second, there

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sounded like I've seen this tap godown before when my grandpad be drinking bourbon.
Right, yeah, yeah, itwas granddad, dad and son.
They were all playing games or something. Household, Yeah, the households playing
games. Nice, And it saysnone of these men's are explicitly described as

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werewolves, and their wolf's traits maybedescriptors of their attitudes or behaviors. However,
there there was seemed there did seemto be some kind of a physical
change, at least in the termsof their strength. So they berserked out
nice over some games. Yeah,so they were doing festivals. Maybe sounds

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like the every name all right,sounds like the average game of monopoly.
That's right, that's true. That'strue. It starts slow and it picks
up and then all of a suddenyou're throwing pieces across and yeah, nice,
fine, you win, Grandma,Damn slum lords. And there was
even there was even some imagery thatI came across where I guess great show

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it on the podcast. Yeah,well, I'll describe where Odin is sitting
with his two birds, you know, two ravens, but he hugging in
my name, hugging and mugging Idon't know my name, hugging in money.
Yeah, like yes. But alsonext to him were two wolves.
I don't remember ever seeing the twowolves. No, I don't remember that.

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No Gary, Yeah, yeah,it's Freky and Jerry. Jerry could
could be g e R. II'm assuming Jerry is it Jerfy Garry m
hmm, is a jiff or agift? I don't know. I don't
know, I don't know, butI uh they were they were uh Odin

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was the god, and I guessthere was one where he had to feed.
He was feeding one of them.Uh well, what I came across
is that he would share all ofhis food to the wolves, but he
would keep the wine for himself.Yeah that's right. How you doing,
right, smart man? Like yourstyle. So so the question I have

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is how did because wrapping it backto what we're going with with like werewolves
and dawning the skins. Okay,so in the beginning, it takes me
back to the beginning and say,well, they weren't like people who transformed.
They were either wizards or they dawnedthe cloak, you know, like
the wolf skin. So that kindof led me through, led me to

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a spot where it's like, well, that's why they're practically the wolves in
Norway. They're like super it wasextremely endangered or something. They there's practically
no wolves there whatsoever. I'm imaginingbecause people were killing these wolves trying to
get their first so they could gowere wolf go berserk, not like you

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know last year or anything like that, but I mean, you know,
over time, they were just killingthe population so much that there's just none
left. Yeah. Now, Ididn't look into the I didn't look at
the into the hole. How manybears there are? But I imagine people
with a wolf because they might bea little easier to kill them a bear
and that's it's a house bear.That's it's a house bear, and that

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that bear needs to pay some rent. So if you had a house bear,
what would you name them? Youthink there's like bear breeds that have
like the face of a pug whereoh yeah, like different breeds like a
little bear. What I called myhouse bear? Well y, yeah,
if so, if you had likethe like a like a poodle version of
a bear, yeah, what werethe bears? Would you name your bear?

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If you had a house bear,would you name it bear bear?
Okay? Well, I like,uh yeah, yeah, it's easy.
Be like, hey, Barrett camehere, they have it something weird.
What would you name your weird?Though? I think I named Steve.
Steve, Steve, Steve the bear. I mean'd be great parties, Yeah,

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Steve, he'd be everybody's best friend. Yeah, house bear. You
could ruffle his father, you couldruffle his feathers. Yeah, occasionally you're
like, oh Steve, just DaveHenry your hand next to his mouth,
don't worry. He doesn't bite.He will pull back. You will pull
back a nub if you put yourhand next to his mouth. So,

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did you guys come across anything?Did you guys come across anything with with
like sidings? Because I don't havea heck of a time just uh just
tails. Yeah, okay, Um, listen, due, did you I
have one about? Uh? Well, there's two not a husband wife?

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Yeah, well I Basically the generalstory or theme for the werewolf legends is
that a husband and wife are outin the field working. The husband tells
the wife what to do if shesuddenly encounters a massive wolf or bear,
and then yeah, exactly, andthen he just mysteriously disappears. It doesn't
take long before she is attacked bya wolf or a bear. The wife

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she defends herself and hurts this animal. The husband then comes back suddenly and
he but he's now bearing a surprisingmark or wound where the wife had hurt
the animal before, and basically thisconfirms to her that he is indeed the
animal. So a lot of thestories are kind of in that fashion.

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Yeah, this is a similar onewhere a hamlet deep in the forest scene
opens. Um, there there isa dude named Lassie and his wife.
And one day he went out inthe forest to get some wood and he
had forgotten to do like whatever prayerto pour it off trolls. Yeah,

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so poor last or Lassie was transformedinto a wolf by a wicked troll.
Yeah. Yeah. Now his wifehad mourned the loss of her husband.
One Christmas Eve, a very poorbeggar woman came to the door, and
the wife was very sympathetic and andfetter, and the old lady said,

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you would probably see your husband again. You know, he's not dead,
just wandering in the forest as awolf. Towards nightfall, the wife,
I guess she was going out tothe pantry to get some meat or something,
and there's a wolf and it kindof raised itself up with its pause

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and look sad and hungry. Andthe wife said, if I was sure
thou wert my own lessie, Iwould give thee a bit of meat.
At that very moment, the wolfskinfell off, and her husband stood before
her, and the clothes he worethat morning when he wandered into the woods.
Okay, okay, okay, Soin D and D, when you

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are when you change shapes from ato b to something else you have the
option to to where you know thatthe clothes becomes part of you, you
know, or your armor becomes partof you or you you know, depending
on the DM, it'll fall tothe ground whatever. That was the only
story that I saw that the actuallythe clothes stayed with the wolf. I

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mean, the pelt is part ofthem, and I don't know how the
pelt would stay on, like you'respenders or hooks or something. Yeah.
Out In that case, the storyfelt like whatever, he was cursed,
but with this pellet which he couldnot remove, something needed to and in
this case it was his wife's loveI'm assuming helped lift the curse and that's

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why the pelt fell off him.Otherwise it would stay intact and he would
just be Roman as a wolf.That's what I kind of got again.
But love, are you saying loveconquers all? Yeah? Of course.
Happy Valentines Day in April? Yea, every day. This is one.

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We'll just keep replaying it, that'sright. Yeah, Now, because I
just thought, I thought more.It kind of took me away from people
changing shape and to like these thesewolf pelts are enchanted, like to kill
a wolf in skin it and thenI guess enchanted. I guess that would
then enchant it or something like that. Well, I don't know. They

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did talk about like people that turnedinto where wolves there it's because they're cursed,
so like the skin cursed, andthat's what I don't know. The
question then becomes, why did therich people have a cursed pelt in that
one story right hanging up above thefire, unless they are scheming against some
things, or do they kill thewolves and want to do like a bear

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skin rug just with wolves and theywalked in and they're like, yo,
check out our rugs, you know, or the thiefs like, yeah,
you're not down here front Steve thehouse bear. Well, I think that's
no. I see that just justthe idea of having a wolf pelt laying

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around, you know, a fullyskinned wolf. It's just I don't know.
I don't Maybe it's just a dayin the age now, and maybe
you know, hundreds of years agoor however long this was actually happening,
you know, in their in theirin their tails, you know, maybe
it was commonplace to go kill awolf and and take its fur. I

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don't know. And then how wouldI get enchanted? I don't know.
I don't know. You have toomany questions, so many questions, right,
so many questions? Or did ordid Fenreer and Odin like bless all
the wolves there? Fenrier did notbless wolf? Yeah? No, and
we I mentioned it earlier. Okay, So again, the wolves, as

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we we've learned here, have beenin part of the mythology. Right,
It's not like there's any reports ofwerewolves or over here in America we have
a lot of dog man. Yeah. But since we did bring it up,
Uh, Fenrier was the demonic ourson of the demonic god Loki in
the passage I found here, Uh, the son of Loki and giantist anger

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Boda. But uh Fenreer it withthe strength, fearing the strength and only
evil that it could only be evil. The gods bounded with a magical chain
made made of the sound of cat'sfootsteps, the beard of a woman,
the breath of fish, and andother occult elements. Right. Okay,

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so like that was funny. Yeah, so a magical chains footsteps. Um.
So when this chain was placed uponFenrier, Fenrier bit off the hand
of the god Tiaru. So thenFenner was gagged with a sword and destined
to lie bound to the rock untilRagnar Rock. Yeah, when Fenner will

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break his bonds and fall upon allthe gods. Yeah, because he's the
destroyer, he'll eventually swallow Odin.Fenrier will devour the sun uh, and
he will swallow. He will fightand swallow Odin. And then I guess
Odin's son, Vidar Wolven, hisfather stabbing the wolf to the in the

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heart, not the Hulk, notthe Hawk. It's not the hawk,
Vidar, and it's not Thorn.But yeah, so I mean that's so
the wolf is embedded in the Norsemythology. I found it interesting. Again,
the pelts was fascinating well, AndI was just thinking that because there
was, you know, in allthe werewolf movies, including the one we're

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about to talk about in the secondhalf. I don't think I've ever seen
one where there is like a cursedpelt and when somebody like I could see,
like you know, taking that,somebody finds it, maybe they want
to make a coat or even ahat or something out of it, and
that sets the transformation in mode.No one's done that now, I trademark
doing it right now. And maybesomeone you know, maybe it's this movie

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I haven't seen, but I foundthat most about some of the stories we
talked about. You know what cursepelts, Uh, it actually made me
think of the order. It wasa TV show that we watched. Yes,
they could do that, Yeah,and they did. They had pelts
that they put on and they becamelike the pelts of like ancient werewolf.

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Yeah select somebody, right, Yeah, it wouldn't just attach to somebody that
it had to select who it wantedto wear it. So now you could
see him wearing the pelts at all. But the pelt pelts did somehow a
tune with it, and you couldn'ttell that person was wearing right now.
One of the things that yeah,so all right, someone did do it.
Check up um and kind of theI was thinking that, you know,

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as I was doing my studying,who the two wolves that were on
the out side of Odin the Jerryand Freki I guess Frecky and fin Rear.
They were used synonymously in a loto tails. So I have think
that, Okay, well Odin's thisis just me thinking like he's just chilling,
you know, he's doing his thingand he's feeding the dogs. You

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know, the feeding the wolves whatever, and he's just doing Odin stuff,
you know, whatever the Odin stuffthat is, and he's like, these
are good dogs. He's petting hisdogs, and he says like, I
don't know what happens, but maybehe just enchanted friend Rear and that led
to some belief or something that wolfpelts because fenders a wolf, you know

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that all wolves are descendered from fenRear or something like that, and his
skin would gain the power that Fenrearhad. I don't know. I was
trying to make some kind of alogical jump from one of the others.
As you can see, I washaving a hard time doing good job.
There's probably a lot of things wedidn't get right or miss some details and

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facts. And if any of thisis interesting, go look it up.
There's a lot of mythology here toour friends over Norway. I'm sure we
massed a few things. Yeah,and hey, if you if you want
to correct something, you know,Parl punches it gmail dot com. Let
us know. We would love to, you know, be educated and learn
more about some of these myth thismythology, these legends. Yeah. Yeah,

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if you know anybody who's who's hadan interaction with a werewolf or turn
into a werewolf or has a pelt. That that's maybe maybe what they do
in the evening, and they wouldlike to be on the show. Do
you know, And if you havea pet bear named Steve, please let
us know. If you have ahouse bearer, I would like to build
hire show around you. That wouldbe awesome. I still would love the

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house be awesome. Well, Idon't think having a I don't think you
can. I don't live inside ahouse with a bear would actually work out
for you. Well, you'd haveto use you have to like potty tram
good luck to use to use theactual toilet. Can you imagine waking up
and if if you potty trained yourhouse bear. Yeah, it'd be like
that Cottonell commercial. They're all justusing it. Check it out. Maybe

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that's where they got the idea from. Oh there you go, all right,
I guess On that note, weshould probably take a quick break and
we're gonna come back and discuss themovie Viking Wolf and some other little things
we're gonna throw around to have fun. So we'll be right back, and
we're back. We're back right Duringthe break, Nash Hatty massive hamstring crampst

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crying like a little baby. Ohmy gosh, we got to roll around
on the floor scram Okay, VikingWolf the movie on Netflix before we jump
in. Just's like, hey,we have a Patreon if you like to
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And like I said, totally onedollar wasn't an extra threshold. Last what
we did was that a Patreon pick. No, we're gonna actually just start

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letting our Patreon members picked the moviebecause yeah, I picked Extra Terrestrial and
that was it was bad. Itwasn't horrible, but what did you think?
I kind of hated it. UhWell, I picked uh We Are

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Still Here, which I think isa good movie. Ye. We The
first movie we talked about on thisshow was Grave Encounters, which I love.
So I guess we're well, itdepends on your point of view,
but I think we're at least twofor four matter what good watches. He
didn't think this one was in thegood category. Oh wait, that's right,

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we're gonna do a movie review impossibleViking Wolf on Netflix. So this
is about and I don't think i'llsay a name, right. Uh it's
th h A l E. Ithink they were saying, uh Tula.
Yeah, So she's seventeen, justmoved with her parents to a small town
and her mother has a new joband the local police. After a student

(34:15):
is killed brutally at a party,Tula attends. Uh. After a student
is killed brutally at a party,Tula attends. She becomes a key witness.
Was to kill her an animal?A wolf? What a wolf?
A wolf? Wolf? Wolf?I thought you said wolf. And that's

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the description from IMDb. So yeah, the movie opens, let's do the
good first, and there could bespoilers, so we'll let you know when
the tune out. UM. Theopening of the movie where Viking dues their

(34:58):
their ransacking Normandy. What was thenormity? I think? And they're at
this monastery and a monk begs himnot to go into this one door.
Of course, the Vikings like,yeah, because that's where all the treasury
is. We're clearly going in there. And the leader, I forget his
name, but he comes out goodbrandy, He comes out with this with

(35:22):
this adorable little wolf pup. Youdidn't think it was adorable as I did.
Now it was kind of terrifying.Angry he was snarling was But the
it's all subtitled it says um thatthey didn't realize they just unleashed hell Hound.

(35:44):
Yeah, and as the Vikings gotin their boats. By the time
they made it back to their homeland, all the Vikings on that boat were
dead and the hell hellnd jumped offthe ship and disappeared the deep woods of
Norway. Yeah. Yeah, Now, badass opening. I was in.

(36:06):
I was digging it right right,that's a great opening. And then then
we got the last of the movie. About the rest of the movie did
not live up to that beginning,but let's just jump in so I know,
it sounds like you this was yourpick, and that's cool. It
sounds like you were loving it.I enjoyed this movie as werewolf movies go.
I think it's probably one of thebest werewolf movies around. Although they

(36:30):
completely changed all of like how tobecome a werewolf, the history of the
werewolves, how they became, thewhole nine yards. Everything changed in this
movie, was it? I don'tknow, I disagree. I saw they
were pulling from a lot of werewolfmovies. Yeah, yeah, the biting

(36:51):
to have it go from one ofa little more zombie than, you know,
than normal, with like all thebiting and the infections and stuff.
Yeah yeah, all right, nowfull disclosure. You can watch this movie
in with subtitles. Yea. Butwe found Netflix. She did go and
you can change it over to Englishdubbing. So that's the way we watched

(37:12):
it, so we didn't have toread. Yeah. Well, so I
watched it both ways. Okay,okay, so you watched a choice.
Actually you've got two and a halfthree times love this Well, I watched
it last night. You're the reasonit's like number one movie on Netflix.
So I watched it a little whileago and I was like, oh,
that's interesting, that's cool. Ireally at the very end was like I

(37:32):
really enjoy this. So after thesuggestion, I'm like, you know what,
let me build up on the movie, not let me just make sure
that I'm dialed in. So Iwatched it again last night and then I
was like, hey, Evans,since you're gonna be on the show,
let's watch it, you know,watched this movie and he was like yeah,
okay or whatever, and it didn'twatch it last night, so we
watched it again today. He becausehe's Levan, does not look through it

(37:58):
was all right, I could havebeen doing something else. Well after the
after we at the Viking Viking opening, I think it says like one thousand
years later, yeah, yep,yeah, And that's where it just puts
us in current current time with Tulaand her parents. Um, and her
mom's a police officer. Yeah,yeah, she's a police officer. What

(38:20):
her stepdad was artist? Hell,we just noticed that the dad really appreciated
like hardcore rap. Yes, okaythat that took me out of a little
bit. I was like, wow, there was one time the sound time
like like there is no way thatthis dude was listening to this rap song.
Yeah, I just felt like outof place. Like it's because we're

(38:43):
watching the English version right watching theno it was the same song in both
versions too. You could understand it. It was in English. So going
back and I'm like, maybe theyjust did that because it's like a like
a like if you smell coffee,it kind of like wakes you up or
something like this just to pull youout of the ease that your mind was
sinking into. You know, everybodyhas different musical tastes, so yeah,

(39:06):
yeah, I agree, this dudetotally could have been into that. It
just didn't It didn't fit. Itdidn't quite fit. Yeah, and so,
and there was one other thing thatdidn't quite fit that I'll talk about
a little bit. But um,so, the daughter she goes to a
party, there's an attack. Shegets bitten first at the party though.
Uh she gets to the party andeverybody is a just a jerk right out

(39:30):
of the game. And I'm like, I just felt like the movie saying
like, all right, take alook now, because they're all the ones
about to get murdered by the wolfbecause they're all jerks. Did you see
the beer that she took out ofthe fridge to the party? Yeah?
And were they just sixteen ouncers?Those cans look bigger they were. They
said a six pack. It wassaid the six packs, So it must
have been a six pack of sixteensor something. I thought they were like

(39:52):
nineteen twos. They looked much bigger. They were Brooklyn's best. Did you
see that? No? I didn'tknow, Yes, No, I was
like, oh, hey, Iknow that beer right on? Okay,
nice. So she went to theparty, had a great time with a
bunch of douchebags, and then itwas kind of like sullen. I don't
think, no, no, no. She was kind of in a funk
because I guess the guy that sheliked had a girlfriend whatever. So she

(40:14):
went off on her own and thenshe was walking by and then just witnessed
the attack. And I did likehow the girlfriend got sucked into the woods,
because yeah, I like the offcamera's terror. I'm a big fan
of that, you know, andit kind of did that right there.
Well, you know, being alittle budget movie, I'm like, okay
again watching this, thinking about themovie we want to make big Foot Ridge.

(40:36):
You're gonna need to do some stufflike that because you know, it's
expensive, expensive to have like agreat costumes, CGIA. But I like
it. It does lend a littlebit self to his terror because you didn't
see what it is yet it's right, you know, something's out there letting
you know it's ferocious, right,and so they probably could have kept it
off screen the whole time the wholemovie. So then she's bit she goes

(40:59):
she's she starts her process of changing. Now, what do you guys think
of her changing process? Well,well, possibly seeing something similar in Ginger
snaps way when her face started changing. Just to look at that a little
bit um, But are you referringto that was very very slow. Yeah,
I was gonna say that seems kindof unique to me as far as

(41:21):
like where willf movies go? Itwasn't a quick change, right, It
was something that happened over what aweek or for days something like that.
But so, Evan, you didn'tlike her character to begin Yeah, I
thought she was just kind of annoying, well most sixteen and seventeen year old
more than average. Why because shewas like Moby or she was just Yeah,

(41:45):
she was just kind of Moby.And just like I'm pretty sure she
was Moby because her dad died andher mom remarried. I think she's Moby
because she thought she was the starof the movie. But it seemed like
her mom. I'm pretty sure moviewent from La then all of a sudden
was just We're focused just on hermom trying to figure out what's going on,

(42:06):
And I'm like, all right,I guess her story is sort of
done. Uh, I guess shehas to develop her angst and whatnot.
And then some of the guys thatthat that as kind of teasing her while
they get asked. You know,that's good, you know. And then
uh, she got a little sister. The little sister comes into play a
little bit later, a little sisterhearing impaired young ladies. Yeah, earned

(42:31):
the step dad and we're a goodlike little team there. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, And I liked uh.I did like how that played in
the end, uh using sign languageuh with the wolf. I don't want
to spoil it too much, butit was like, all right, I
like how that's playing in uh.But yeah, no, it quickly became

(42:52):
more focused on her mom going todifferent crime scenes, right, trying to
figure out what's going on. Huntin the veterinarian yep um. I was
like, okay, the crazy dudewith one arm lefty. Oh yeah,
the werewolf hunter worst character. Yeah, I would agree with that. The
character is a little like whoa dude? Wait? All right, all right,

(43:14):
I want to hear what you're saying. Give him. But he comes
and he's missing arm. You're thinking, oh, he's already battled werewolves.
No, because we wolf if hehad, maybe he figured out maybe one
took his arm and he cut whoknows um, But he didn't. That
was it. He came in said, I'm a werewolf hunter. I don't
know. He went off to thebar because we had to see him again

(43:36):
for the longest time. Didn't hedidn't he give her a silvery, give
her some silver bullets. Yeah,he showed her one that put some in
her pocket of her coat. Butand then when he dushed up later,
It's like, I assume this guywould come in with like, uh,
you know, a crossbow, you'rethinking of silver tip, like he'd becoming

(43:57):
looking like a swear or or helsing. Yeah, But because he was talking
that I've been hunting wearables, furblah blah blah. And I'm like,
all right, this guy, he'sgonna be like a you know, integral
part of this movie. Nope,No, he wasn't. And I noticed
also too that the uh you know, when he gave her the bullet and

(44:20):
she's and he's like, use thisbullet whatever, and then he I'm gonna
use the air quotes secretly put thebullets in her pocket. So when we
went back today and watched it,how would you say, okay. I
was just like, they're this serious. Because when we went back and watched
it today, I had with thevolume termed up, you know, after
don't fairly well, and was like, that wasn't quiet at all. He

(44:43):
when he took the inn the secretso it was just like, Okay,
there's two people in an office,doors closed in an office. He's they're
just talking to another and she's doingpaperwork or something like that. He takes
out a box of AMMO and dropsit in her pocket and I'm like,
oh, you're like he's over hereshaking like a Moroccan. What is that?
Yeah, it drops in her Andif if that was dropping something into

(45:06):
my part, into my coat whichis over on a coat rack literally you
know, six feet away, eightfeet away, and be like, hey
man, would you put me?Be like where do you Especially if you're
a police officer, you'd be likewatching this strange fella. You would not
take your eyes off until he wasout out of the building. The whole
time. I was like, thiswouldn't fly in America. And he only
had one arm, so it wasn'tlike he was doing some kind of like

(45:29):
a stealth move with like you know, doing he had one arm. You
just watched the one arm and hegoes dude, like she'd be like,
hmmm, I don't see anything here, but what she was so focused on
looking over the documents. She hada lot of paperwork. So when before
we go there, I really needto know where because I thought the Wearable

(45:51):
hunter um offered nothing, nothing atall. The story the bullets. Yeah,
that was it. That was it. But why did you like him?
I just he was just like thekooky old dude who just like drives
his van just he dies by tryingto run over the rights. Oh no,
you thought that was awesome. I'mlike, he's a werewolf hunter,

(46:12):
right, he told her how tokill the wewolf. That's that's that's his
choice. Like maybe the car hadsilver on it and then he had been
Yeah, it obviously did not.Werewolf hunter should have rolled up out in
front of the building, got outwith his silver bullets and everything armed,
and then came in there kicking thefront door in. Uh. And I
was like, dumb, dune,dumb, No, No, he saved

(46:36):
the day by not even being awerewolf hunter. Was on his phone and
drove into the side of a building. No, and he didn't save the
day. No, but it wasfunny, like I was really hoping that.
I was like, all right,right, and she's not gonna trust
him for a bit. Then espentiallyshe does and she realizes he's awesome.
And at the very end of themovie he's dead. But guess what she

(47:00):
has to be the were wolf hunting? Right, that would have been awesome,
right, the mantle gets moved on, Yeah, kept saying about killing
the bloodline. Yeah, but wedon't know how many, you know,
I feel like it would be asit takes is one person to just get
a bite and then bite one moretoo, it could be like four or

(47:22):
five people bitten. It would bereally hard to shut down the bloodline.
Now most of the victims didn't justget a biting again, exacinitely, keep
making sure no one who's really gettingaway, right, So what do you
guys think of the interaction when whenthe when the mom meets the wolf face
to face in the mind in theminds, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(47:45):
I mean the first time, Wow, the first thing in pots in my
head is like, wow, theydidn't have a CGI budget. I thought
the practical effects were pretty good.They were all right, they were Okay,
the effects were pretty it's and thenshe fell back and then did the
whole get the bullet thing or whateverI thought when she first because because because

(48:08):
it was my through time watching themovie and Evans first, we end up
sliding into like a like a likea Mystery Science theed or three thousand kind
of the thing and giving comments throughoutthe whole thing. So she pokes her
head up what you knew was gonnahappen, and the wolf was right there,
and I was just you just reachedup and go a good boy,
you're a good boy, and youget a little scratch behind the head before
he takes off your hand, youknow, fell back. That's not what

(48:31):
she did. That's what she shouldhave done. It could have saved her
life. I thought she was gonnado like a kind of like collapse the
mine in on him and kill himkind of thing, you know, like
the movie would have been done intwenty minutes the end. Well, no,
because then they do. Either way, they do kill the werewolf,
and then it's like, okay,they did the thing. We're halfway through

(48:52):
the movie. What's gonna happen?You know? Speaking of that, I
felt like it took forever yep toget to that scene in mind where we
saw the wolf. Yeah, LikeI was like, I was like,
all right, I understand, likeslow burns are building up. Took attention
and telling the story. But thismovie is a title was called Viking Wolf,

(49:15):
right. I really thought by nowwe would see wolf again or another
took or a Viking for something,or a Viking or a wolf with the
Viking, like maybe a modern dayViking. There were like no Viking side
of the intro. Yeah, yeah, like I'm sure there's like modern day
wolf. Isn't the half half thebiorn? Yeah, he's like something that

(49:39):
dude, it looks like that guyshows up to help out because he's a
modern day berserker and he's there tohelp because he would have been also a
wearing wolf hunter. That would makemore sense, yeah than the old dude
with an RV with the silver likeaxe blade or something hacking and slashing and
before he would fight the werewolf,he put on some pelts and got in

(50:02):
that and then we saw that flashand that's the end of the movie where
the berserker modern day the werewolf andthere's going at it. Dude, Yeah,
that's the movie. I want tosee. So right after she kills
the wolf in the mind comes myfavorite part and my least favorite part almost

(50:25):
identical at the same time. Somy least favorite thing that I liked was
the veterinary expert, the predator expert, who looked like a class aide in
some class Yeah yeah, and likesomebody painted on his I mean I turned
to Evan because he got a littleof the stash going, and I'm like,
his stash is not much better thanyours, and he's the expert.

(50:49):
I was like, all right,he kind of looked like an intern from
California. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't buying his
expertise. But then my favorite partcame when the wolf is dad and he's
got the claw and he's like examiningthe clawn and it looks at where the
claw came from and there was afingernail coming out. Yeah. I kind
of like that. I like thatspot a lot. It was a little
subtle thing and I was like,oh, I love so this used to

(51:12):
be yeah a human Yeah, umyeah, I like that, but I
still don't think it paid off.No. Um. I also I read
that and I think you mentioned this, Um, the autopsy scene was kind
of reminiscent of Jaws. Yeah.In fact, some of the dialogue during

(51:34):
that autopsy scene was directly translated fromthe from Jaws. Really yeah, so,
and apparently there's several homages to Jawsin the movie. So for that,
I say kudos. I didn't evencatch any of that, but go
figure, did you say you've neverseen Jaws? No, I haven't seen

(51:55):
a long long time. Maybe Ineed to go watch again, but yes,
I will always recommend that. Yeah. Yeah, So after that scene,
then it goes back to what Itgoes back to her dealing with her
going through the changes and whatnot.And I liked I just kind of liked

(52:17):
how they did her change. Notnot the actual changing of it when you
actually morph right there, but thelittle parts that were getting like her hearing
was getting better, you know,she was feeling queasy and you know,
yeah, but I was like,so so much of this is familiar.
In fact, I can't remember whatI was originally thinking last night we watched

(52:37):
it, but now I'm talking aboutlike it similar reminds me a little bit
when Toby McGuire got bit by theSpider Oh yeah, Spider Man, Like
he's like, all of a sudden, he's here. He's getting better,
and he gets more muscular. Iwas like, okay, again, it's
very I've seen this done before indifferent movies. Yeah. Yeah. And

(53:00):
then I mean fast forward to youknow, she goes full wolf. You
know, I wasn't super wild abouther actual transformation. It was okay,
you know, it was it wasall right. But then I thought,
it's kind of cool, how youlike. There was a one scene where
she had her hood up and allyou could see is the wolf stout,
snout sticking out. I thought thatwas kind of Yeah. Yeah, the

(53:22):
hood up. As we know fromevery movie out there, especially in the
Marvel universe, the hood up hideseverything. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
you're both a villain and you're extremelywellhood hidden with her hood up. It's
just the way it works, right, Okay. Yeah, and then they
couldn't catch the wolf took off.She took off as the wolf. She

(53:45):
didn't kill her sister, which wasnice. She didn't kill her her little
sister. Well, the sisters lookout for each other rights, right,
that's right, that's right. Andthen uh yeah, the guy runs into
a building and she takes off theends up in a tunnel. I think
that's kind of a tunnel or somethinglike that. See I miss a I
stepped out. Yeah, the there'slike the tunnel scene. Yeah, and

(54:10):
then there's the scene where the olddude dies, and that's the scene where
the old dude dies, his lastscene where they eventually shoot her with the
tranquilizer, and then her mom shootsshe though she didn't do it. You
didn't hear a gunshot. And thenat the end, she still has the

(54:32):
bullet and she puts it next toher daughter's picture at the end, and
I was looking online and people arequestioning whether she actually shot her daughter or
not. I took it as shedid, and that was like imply like
putting the bullet next her daughter waslike implying that she yeah, okay,
so yeah, I guess I thoughtwe were gonna tell you when we were

(54:55):
gonna get into spoilers, but thatwe didn't tell you, and now we
just would you the whole movie.But he told you, so you don't
have to watch it. So Itook the bullet next to the picture.
As you know, I let yougo that one time you got away,
but next time we meet your ass'sgrass m that's resting, you know,

(55:15):
because I'm the hunter now or somethinglike what of our Patriot members Andy gave
us a review, and I reallydo think this is overall pretty accurate.
Okay, so Viking Wolf sure wassomething. Everything about this feels exactly as
you would expect from a straight toNetflix movie. Yes, it was predictable,

(55:39):
and it never really addresses any oftools problems. It doesn't even really
address the town's werewolf problem. Theghost scenes seemed like an afterthought and added
nothing to the context of the movie. Overall, it lacked originality. Yeah,

(55:59):
the go scenes were kind of pulleddirectly from a werewolf in Paris or
werewolf in London, an American werewolf. That's it at actually step favorite movie.
It's awesome. Yeah, and uhwhere he's sitting talking with the dead
people. So I kind of waslike, Okay, she's having some issues,
she's having some PTSD kind of athing. Yeah, and I've seen

(56:21):
other things on the line. Twopeople just saying about you know, it's
it pulls from this movie, pullsin this movie. It's like, there's
nothing really original about true. Butso so the question that I put to
that is can at this day andage. Can you do a werewolf movie
that's one hundred percent original with concepts? Yeah, we just had one right

(56:42):
with a liking berserker modern day.Well, yeah, that is also a
werewolf hunter and he dons the wolferand goes berserk to fight and defeat these
werewolves. Dude, Netflix, man, know you one of original paralol punchers
wearable movie call us? Yeah,I liked your guys. Is I know

(57:05):
last night when after we watched it. Um, what I said was I
wanted a movie about the opening scene. Yea, and yeah yeah, yeah,
what happened on the boat? Whathappened with something like I want to
know what happened? Like a prequel? Maybe? Yeah? Why no,
no, no, do not Netflix, don't give it. Don't give the
money for a Viking Wolf prequel.Give us the money to do uh wolf

(57:30):
Berserker? Yeah? And how zerkerwolf? How did they how did the
the the the monks catch or howdid the wolf get the wolf? Wolf?
It was like a baby wolf.Yeah, and and why did that?
Why did the guy carrying the wolfthe wolf pop out? Have to
do it? Have to make itlook like a little like a muppet.
And the wolf with the monks andmaybe just be sitting around drinking beer.

(57:52):
Maybe the wolf would have not beenmaybe it would have gotten nice. Not
house bear, but their household wolf. Oh nice, the abbey wolf.
Nice. You know, did theycatch a witch? How was it summoned?
Because it was just a pop soit just how to get there?
Yeah? Months, did they killa witch or something like that? Once

(58:14):
we do berserker wolf, that woulddo monk wolf. Oh nice. I'm
gonna tell how the monks, youknow, Brewin Beery got a wolf like
that or was if they were secretlyevil monk. Well, all right,
we all were talking about the movie, but I'm really curious of how you
would rate it. I'm gonna actuallystart with Evan what oh he forgot he

(58:36):
was on the podcast. I'd rateit like probably like a six or seven
out of ten. That's actually that'sgood. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna I'll say that because Ifeel like yours high lish. Yeah.
I would say there's like moments inthe movie that I did enjoy. Um,
Like I said, the transition fromhuman too wolf that took a while

(59:00):
and that was kind of unique tome. So I would I would probably
give it about of six maybe ohokay, um, so you know,
uh Andy and our discord had saidmaybe pre game, but not too much
because there's subtitles, which now Iwas like, oh no, But then
I found the English so we pregame. It didn't actually make it better

(59:22):
for me. I think I justfor some reason, I wanted to always
just point out things that I didn'tlike. Maybe I never sat back and
just enjoyed. So for that,I probably say at least the way I
felt from beginning to ms like veryfive out of ten. Really okay,
Yeah, it's just very middle ofthe road for me. I actually gave
it about Yes, I'm gonna bethe highest. I gave it about a

(59:45):
seven and a half. Okay,you know, I it's not the best
werewolf movie. Maybe I don't wantto give it a mate. You know,
eight is way too high, rightI think I think eight is too
high, and seven I think it'sbetter than a seven. So I'm a
seven and a half. So Ithink that it was enjoyable. I like
the I liked the bringing new waysto come up with the werewolf floor,

(01:00:07):
how how the werewolf came to Norway? You know the history of it that
they don't transform back and forth itwas that was a new idea that this
stay you know, more like adisease than anything else. Um, yeah,
I enjoyed it. I get aseven and a half. Okay,

(01:00:29):
Yeah, don't take our word forit. If it sounds like something you
want to check out to watch it, make up your own mind. But
the next one movie we pick,it's gotta literally be we all have to
be six or high again. Wekeep having these movies where we're like,
I don't know, we gotta havea really solid one. I think I'll

(01:00:51):
keep watching really bad get worse andworse. Yeah, I'm okay with that,
as long as we know we're movingin. We're watching like American big
Foot was bad. Yeah. Butif we were like, hey, we're
watching bad movies to have fun withit, and we're gonna we're gonna do
an MST three, K I'm okaywith that, then I would recommend Bird

(01:01:12):
Deemmick or was it the uh whatHands of Manos? What was the one
that we watched the I can't eventhink of the title of it now.
We watched a really bad movie aboutman They were like it like a cult
about a cult and they had ahand as there. Oh wow, okay,

(01:01:34):
oh my gosh, I can't eventhink of it, but that was
It was like a solid two maybea one. Yeah. So we've come
across some bad ones. We're gonnatry to get some good ones that still
fit in the theme of the paranormalwe're talking about. Stick with us,
we'll get one, you'll get getPromise we'll get there. Uh, you
know, uh, thinking about whereit was and thinking about the you know

(01:01:58):
the vikings. Have you know wherewolves where bears? There's where ravens,
but also a d and d ravenLov has where raven lot of Uh?
Is there any animal if you couldchange back and forth, specifically if you
could do it at will and itwasn't on a full noon, uh,

(01:02:20):
and you had control? Is therean animal you would want to be able
to change into? But I alsowant to know why? And not just
so? Do you think I wantto know why that is an animal you
want to change? What you woulddo in that form? Hence the why
you would want to be this creature? What kind of a where creature would

(01:02:42):
you want to be? And why? Um, well, one that I
wouldn't want to be that. Ijust think it's kind of funny, Well
you are Nash's kid, because that'snot the question. I actually asked what
I would want to be. Mprobably like a bird or something a burger,
yeah, okay, flight would butspecifically, but is there things you

(01:03:07):
would want to do? Eat bugs, seeds, live as a bird?
Okay? Mmm, aware creature thatI wouldn't want to be fish? But
why and why specifically that animal?Well, if it's if it's the and
why, then I'm gonna say ahouse cat. Okay, it could be

(01:03:30):
yours too. Okay, it's okay, because the life of the house cat
is freaking awesome. Oh my gosh. Why not? If if it was
like if I was in D andD and it was more of like an
action scenario or whatever, then Iwouldn't pick a house cat. You know,
I would probably go with either werewolfor a were tiger, you know,

(01:03:52):
that would be the way to go. But or wear bear, but
or wear ape or you know,something like that. But if it was
and why and it is, I'mgonna go with the housecat. Well,
he took mine something different. Multiplewear cats? Okay, Well, I
maybe not am wear a pug,wear a hamster. No, I definitely

(01:04:15):
want to be a cat because Ican land on my feet. I'm always
on my feet. Um, andyou're the kind of a hole that would
just just push stuff off. That'sthe life for me. But no,
you uh, the humans they feedyou and maybe they'll touch you if you'll
let them. But whatever, it'slike a worshipping thing. Yeah, we

(01:04:40):
know, really worship our animals,right, m So I would be into
that they have the life. Theyget to sleep a lot, and they
get fed and yeah it's good.It's a good spot. Yeah, I
like it. Yeah. What aboutyour Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing
with you having bird, but I'mthinking like maybe where eagle, like a

(01:05:00):
majestic big bird, but not bigbird. Wow, not a house bird,
Ostrich, Let'll teach you how todo the alphabet. Um. But
you know for flight, yeah,you know flight, you know an eagles
dive into water grab fish like dish. Yeah. And then I could just
change back and be like, man, what a what an awesome day.

(01:05:23):
I am now ready to go towork because I've already been flying soaring with
the eagles. Okay, okay,yeah, yeah, I see nothing I
was gonna turn anything vicious. Igot a but a but a where grizzly,
you know, fishing, fishing salmonout of the stream, you know,
fresh salmon like sushi. That'd beawesome. It could be a dolphin.

(01:05:43):
Dolphin they they're they're not afraid ofsharks. They actually beat the crap
out of sharks. What about aweear shark where fish you just well,
because it's a problem with that isthen you transform and then there's no water
around and you die. Well,I mean, if I did say that
it's up to you when you transform, well, you don't need a full
moon. So if you're like,transform into a shark when you're on dry
lands, what are the practical usesfor being a shark? Like you're not

(01:06:11):
gonna be in like the water doingyour taxes and you're like, ah,
shark form would be useful. Well, I hope when we all transform into
these creatures because we are sick ofdoing things like taxes, and that's why
we transformed again, get away andand sharks, you know, if they
stop swimming, they just die.They don't die, they fall asleep.
Well no, because they can't breathe. They have to swim forward to breathe.

(01:06:33):
You know what I'm gonna amend I'mgonna amend my weear cat. Okay,
go ahead to them a groundhog,A weare groundhog, We're groundhog.
Have you ever seen a skinny groundhog? True? I haven't seen a lot
hit on the road, though that'sbecause they're done well, I don't know
where you're going with. Why youwant to be aware groundhog? Then,

(01:06:54):
because they lead the life. Theywaddle around, they eat their food,
and they just go back to wherever. It's kind of like similar to be
the house cat, just not trappedinside. They like all die miserably though
that's just because they're not aware.But if you're aware groundhog, then you
would just know you aware where groundwhere, because we still have our human

(01:07:15):
brains telling us like, don't tryto cross the road right here, this
is a bad idea. Don't dothat. So like an old joke,
why did the chicken cross the roadto prove to the possum it could be
done there you go, wow,wow, dead crickets? All right,

(01:07:38):
Well there you go. What wouldyou transform into if it's right? And
if you want to go onto Patreonand help us fund our brand new werewolf
movie. Yeah, we need agood name for it, Berserker Wolf Wolf
that verse. They're always popular,right, movies that have verses in them.
Sure, where question mark? Doyou think we could like, uh

(01:08:00):
make a short to shoot, likea four minute proof of concept? Yeah?
Of this? Yeah? M Netflix? Serious? You seem to be
like you give Adam Sailor money todo, like all kinds of movies all
the time, and they're usually likerating like thirty percent of rod Tomatoes,
Like when we would get you thirtyfive percent with our movie, I mean

(01:08:24):
looking a little Nikki for Pize's sake. I mean, come on, that
was a terrible movie. Yeah.Yeah, you got a lot of money
for that movie. Yeah, he'sthe sad man, that's right. Yeah,
so we could do it, andwe could have Adam Netflix. If
we make Adam Sailor the Berserker,then terrible idea. That's a terrible idea.

(01:08:45):
All right? Any final thoughts onthis? Uh? Heaven? What
are just viking? Is? Anything? In general? Is our sign off?
Dad? You probably got some opinions, don't you? Yes to you
a fool? Yeah, Well I'mokay, I'll shift it. Give you
time to think. I'm just givingyou the question. I don't well,

(01:09:08):
Bark already gave you the question.Well, no, and I'm giving I
like the idea of the of theViking werewolf. I after doing all the
research that we did and looking atit, I'm a little more intrigued to
look at wear bears because that seemsbut if it's kind of similar to what

(01:09:28):
it is, it's like, well, maybe they just don't have a lot
of were creatures in Norway. It'snot just something that I don't know,
but I think it's pretty cool.I like the idea of donning a skin
instead of just a full transformation.You know, my O D and D
character takes on attributes of the creaturethat he turns into. It doesn't do
a full transition, kind of digon that it took. I enjoyed it.

(01:09:50):
I enjoyed it, and and Ienjoyed the movie too. It's a
fun It's a fun one that youcould drink. You can pre game,
game and then post game while you'rewatching. And it's good enough, more
than good enough. I didn't chea. No, I agree with you.
The um the wear bear was alittle interesting. I was like, whoof,

(01:10:13):
we should totally focus on this aswell, But well, why didn't
you tell us? I listen?I was there. I was thinking about
it too, but it says foranother episode. That's right, that's right
anyway. Yeah, it was interestingto go down you know, the research,
go down the research. Uh,there's more we can learn for sure.
Um and maybe because we didn't offshoot into the wear bear and stuff

(01:10:35):
like that. Movie wise, Uh, if you want to watch a Viking
movie, there's a movie called TheNorthman with Alexander scars Guard and he is
a berserker and he done some pellets. I can't remember if he was bear
or wolf. Wasn't it a wolf? Yeah? So yeah, now go

(01:10:57):
back and rewatch that and see whathe does. Yeah, well understand that
a lot more. Yeah, thatwe talked about this. Um, that's
a good movie. That's a littleslow on our See, so you got
dolpe pre game focus and if you'regonna if you're gonna look at the Norwegian
you know, mythology and whatnot,we're kind of missing the boat even talking
about we're creatures. We need tobe talking about trolls. Yeah, that's

(01:11:21):
the one. Yeah, that's thetopic we'll do. And David's back,
Yeah, so he can contribute,but he's gonna be sad he missed all
this. Yeah, so Evan,your your final thoughts. I mean,
I feel like out of all theNorth Norse mythology stuff, the werewolf side,

(01:11:41):
like like you guys were saying,the troll stuff would have been way
cooler. Yeah wow wow wow brorephrase you would have had way more material.
Yeah. Possibly so. So thewear bear and the were wolf are
kind of the shallow and of thepool. Yeah, and the yeah and
the trolls are the deep enm youget into, like the trolls and then

(01:12:02):
like the that's on the list.All right, all right, well,
thank you for spending your time withus. Hope you had a good time.
But we put a smile on yourface. If you like us,
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(01:12:25):
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