October 23, 2025 • 47 mins
Health Coach, Michele Regev, asks Bill the questions that we have all been confronted with. Are grapes and chocolate a deadly poison, are raw diets loaded with parasites, and how about cleaning products we use in our homes. The truth on these and many other "rules" is revealed here.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Any health related information on the following show provides general
information only. Content presented on any show by any host
or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health Cafe,
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where your Pet has a Voice.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and
welcome to the Pet Health Cafe to show where your
pet has a Voice. This is Bill the Pet Health
Guru with you for another exciting podcast into your pets
health and into your health as well as always, I
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we can. The chat is open so you'll be able
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to throw in your questions as we go through some
of the mythology of pet care, some of the good
and bad things that we've been told on how to
care for our animals and things like that. And for
this show, I'm bringing in our health coach Michelle as
a basically a customer and a client for over fifteen years.
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So I think you're there, aren't you there, Michelle?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yes, I am good evening, Bill, good evening everybody. Thank
you so much for having me on again. I really
would love to educate your people on all of these myths.
You know, how I talk to everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Should do of them, Bill, And of course you're also
teaching our children, which they need to know this stuff upfront,
because you know, the kids spend most of their time
with the animal, not the adults, and so if they
know the proper things the you know, the what's good
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and bad and what's ugly, you know, we can then
get them off on the right start with any you know,
pets that they might have, and of course as they
grow up, they'll be able to do things right and
not have to suffer like so many pet owners today
with the cancers and you know, the diabetes and all
the skin problems and dental problems and all that stuff
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that we see every single day that we have to
try to fix. Absolutely, And with that, I think you
said you have about two thousand questions for me tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I wrote about forty myths after you know, having spoken
to so many parents and friends and relatives, I did
all these things, and myth number one but from raw
diets and harbor dangerous bacteria like salmonella and E. Coli.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well you're gonna hit me with the big one right
up front. That's great. The interesting thing about this is,
you know, and it's going to depend on the manufacture,
the supplier and that sort of thing, whether the food
is clean or not, what the quality is going to
be like. But in general, of course I know it
at Biocomplete Natural Diets and at my Paleo pet, we're
only using real, good, clean, human grade foods. But when
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it's sold to a pat it's got to be labeled
not for human consumption, because the Department of Agriculture has
determined that if your intention is to give it to
your pet, it can no longer be human. Great, and
it's all about licensing and things of that nature. Basically,
if to come, if your provider is using the same
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meat that you buy every single day at the supermarket,
or better, which is what we do, we go with
it next step higher. You shouldn't have any pathogens. I
remember we had a this is about ten twelve, maybe
fifteen years ago, we had an inspection by the US
Department of Agriculture and it was local and state and
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federal inspectors, and I had a sticker on my deli cases.
We had the real deli case for pets back then,
and I had on their E coli and salmonella free
USDA inspected and the local inspector went through the ceiling,
Oh my god, we didn't check your foods. I said, well,
it's on the box, and then she didn't believe that,
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and I took her back in the cooler and the freezer,
and I said, there's your stamp that says and it's
on your website, So am I to believe that it's
not if you inspected it. The federal inspectors thought that
was rather an interesting question that I posed for them,
because obviously a lot of these inspectors don't know and
they just keep trying to break your chops. But basically,
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if you use normal safe food handling, you know procedures,
you're not gonna have a problem. And to be honest,
the salmonella and E coli warnings are so outdated because
you're got every one of us have salomona and eal
like inner gut for digestion, and basically it's transmitted true feces.
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So unless you're pooping on your counters, you.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Know there are people too with cutting boards, and hurry
up for when we're making our own exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, of course you've heard me say this, this this
one thing I probably had a thousand times. If you
heard it. One your dog licks their butt and then
kisses you on the lips and you're still alive.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Other myth, okay, myth number two. I gotta get rolling.
We have a lot. Don't worry everybody. We'll get to.
So dogs shouldn't eat raw or cooked bones, especially chicken
or turkey bone.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's again, think about their wild cousins. They consume the
whole animal. Now, their wild cousins do not cook the meat.
That's true. However, sometimes when they go back to a
kill several days later, that meat has been dried out,
sun dried, or just dehydrated basically by the weather, and
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those bones but basically get crunched down. The only bone
that I've really seen problematic are big, and I mean
big turkey leg bones, and it's not because of anything
that it does see intestine. I mean in sixty years,
we've never seen and I've had several veterinarians on the
confirmed it a gut tore up by bones, because that
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gut is really, really tough. But those hollow leg bones
on a turkey have a tendency to get stuck on
their K nine teeth, and then they're fighting to get
it off, you know, and it's just an annoyance more
than anything else. But that's a that's really the only one.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Snuckle bones I understand not to give them because they
can also get stuck on their teeth knucklebones.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Knucklebones are generally pretty good the femurs. If they're cut
too thin on a big one, I've seen them get
hooked over the K nine teeth. Again, that's because of structure,
but that's usually not a problem. Veterinarians will also tell
you not to feed them because you might, especially on
the long bones of the leg bones femurs, that they
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might break a tooth. Well, the reason they're eating bones
is because they need calcium. If you break a tooth,
you're already deficient in calcium. So you know, it's kind
of an oxymoron that they tell people. You know, it
makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Thank you, So myth Number three, dogs should be given
rice when they have diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You should use Elmer's glue instead, because that's basically what
rice does. It's a starch, it's glue, and not only
does it firm up the stool, which is that's what
they're trying to accomplish. But first off, dog stool should
always be soft and almost watery because the elimination process
in nature has to be very quick. You don't want
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them straining and you other going and become somebody else's food.
The other part of that, though, is that rice, because
it converts to sugar, sticks to the intestinal wall and
the wall of the colon, and then as it's being
cleaned out, it's literally peeling that dermal layer that's in
the gut off and now you've got blood in the stool.
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It's not dangerous, but people freak out. But that's a
natural part of it.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I mean, I really don't eat much rice. There's arsenic
in it, and I just it's.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well, that's the other problem too. How is it raised
as a gmo? Is it sprayed with like fasse eight?
How is it prepared? You know, all these things come
into play with this stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Would you recommend pumpkin if your dog, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It's the same problem, said, I mean, it still turns
the sugar, it's still carbohydrate based, so you've got the
same types of problem. Yes, yes, you're the body is
trying to get rid of something that's bad. It's not
the food, it's something that's already bad in the body.
It's better to let it run now. If you want
something to comment down. If it's really really mucasy and
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really really watery, which is what diarrhea is, it's basically water.
You know, the body's pushing all that water out to
clean itself out. And I use things like natural cures
like slippery elm powder or or marshmallow root powder. Those
are natural and actually help create a better mucous lining
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in that gut a dog is.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Eating the grass. Is that also beneficial?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, basically that's part of the cleansing process, becau they're
trying to get something in their body that they can
literally vomit most of the time, because when you stop
and think about it, with all the toxins around us,
the body produces a lot of new kiss. Dogs can't
spit it up like we do, so they have to
get something in there that the body is going to reject,
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and as it rejects it, it's grabbing that mucus. And
when you look at that pile on the floor, it's
almost all mucus, and you know there might be some
food particles, but again depending on what they're feeding. If
you're feeding a raw diet, a species appropriate diet, there's
not going to be much food there. If it's a
kibble diet, you know, you might have a lot. And
of course the problem with both the diarrhea and the
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kibble and the vomiting with kibble is we're dehydrating the
body because they're putting a dry food into that body
and there's no moisture to be able to utilize it.
And that's that's an important thing, especially with cats, because
cats are a desert animal. They're designed to get all
their moisture from their food, not from a water bowl.
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Dogs can curl their tongue and lap up water. Cats
literally go to the water bowl, they dip their tongue
in and getting a drop at a time. You know,
I joke around with a lot of my customers. I said,
if you know, if I'm trying to get you know,
we're out on a date and I try to get you,
give you a couple of martinis, but you can only
drink at one drop at a time. I'm gonna be
there forever.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That's funny myth Four Sweet potatoes and vegetables should be
added to every food, whether it be dry food, species
appropriate diet.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's interesting because I was listening to a podcast earlier today,
which is one of many that I listened to. But
dogs and cats are carnivores. They cannot break down those
vegetables very well. Yes, over time, they have a they
have to do so that you can use some of
that carbohydrate matter, but it's very inefficient and it actually
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creates more digestive issues. The what I found interesting is
they're now telling us, as humans who are omnivores, to
cut back on the fruits and vegetables because of the
high sugar content. And you know sugar creates inflammation.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Huh No, more broccoli from my sister's dog. She loved.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No. And of course, you know, as you've heard me
say before, these vegetables today, especially the vegetables, the fruits
not so much. But the vegetables are all man made.
They are not found in the wild, so they don't
have the same energy and digestibility that ancients would, and
the ancients would be things like different herbs and botanical
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So if you think your animal needs, you know, something
on the green side, look at the ancient vegetables of
the different herbs and botanicals, and then search them out
for what they carry, the actual nutrients. That's the important part,
because they are right yea rolina, yeah, kel.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
They love it. I don't put it on their food,
they really, They'll tell me, yeah, they do. Mid five.
Number five dogs should never eat grapes or chocolate.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh my god, that's that's interesting because number one in
the wild. Where would wolves get chocolate. I mean, that's
something that we should not be feeding our processed foods.
It's not about people. Food is about the processed foods,
and chocolate happens to be one of them. When you
look at most chocolate today, you know, actually the cacao
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that we make chocolate with is a great antioxidant. And
yes it does carry the theobromide, which is toxic, but
in small amounts it's it's not harmful. I mean, I've
running across dozens and dozens of cases over the years.
It's not hundreds where dogs have eating the whole tray
of brownies and you know the best the worst thing
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that happens to them is, you know, you take them
out for a walk and you know you got to
clean up a little extra poop. Grapes. On the other hand,
they might eat one or two in nature because you
know that there is a natural plant, it is a
natural fruit. But again, they won't eat that if their
body is in balance, if it's out of balance with
vitamins and minerals, they won't. So you know, if you're
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if your dog is you know, bothering you while you're
eating either one of these products, A small amount's not
going to bother them.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Is good?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Should it be? Can it be less? I mean I
don't eat.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, it runs up and you know the things I
see that that actually the cacao on our part, anything
over seventy seventy five percent is healthy. And you know it. Actually,
it's funny because we don't we don't realize that modern
chocolate with the a these chocolate bars and everything else,
it's made cheap. It's full. It's not only sugar, and
it's refined sugars and high fruit, toast, corn, sorup. But
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it also contains a lot of different waxes and other stabilizers,
so it won't melt on the shelf. And it's not
the cacaw that's the problem, it's all the other things
that are in that there other ingredients.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Okay, silt, don't, don't be mad. But number six, I
have to say the V word.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, Well, we already know you're talking about those preventive
things that come out of a syringe, right, Okay, that
I made, Yes, I made. I made a special note
about that because first off, people don't realize what's in them.
There's all kinds of antibiotics and sorbitol and tissue from
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other animals and DNA from other animals, and preservatives, aluminum, mercury, squalen,
all this stuff that are actually all poisons. Now do
they work? Actually, there isn't a study out there that
shows any of them really work. That was a legitimate study.
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There's been a lot of made up stuff, you know,
even on the human side, and for since they since
the first ones came out. And part of the issue
with that too is if it really is a p
if that statement were true, how do we know where
natural immunity stops and acquired kicks in. And that's why
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that's how the whole thing with the you know, six nine, six, eight, ten,
twelve week old you know animals keep getting this repeated
is because we have no idea. We have no idea
where mom's immunity stops. And the body also has specialized
cells that are memory cells. And even though it's not there,
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you know, and a tighter and if you're doing it's tighter,
that doesn't mean that the body, that the body, the
mitochondria don't remember it. And that's what we're finding out.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Don't even do it for newborn babies.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, absolutely not. You know, start mom out before she
gives birth on a good species appropriate diet. I have
several different protocols that I've been following for decades and
decades that get your pups off to a great start.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Excellent, thank you. Myth number seven, you should immediately run
to the vet. And if your pet is vomiting or
has diarrhea, like, hurry up, get in the car and run.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
That's only true if you like to spend money on nothing,
because there's not a procedure that they do that is helpful.
For the most part, that you can't do at home.
That vomiting and diarrhea are nothing more than housekeeping. There's
something bad inside the body, it's got to get out.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
When you go to the the animal hospital, the first
thing they try to do is they use an anti
diarrheal to it up. Plug up that end. They give
them antibiotics. They have no idea what's causing it, so
that's just you know, actually creating a worse firestorm. They
then add in fluids even if the animal is not dehydrated,
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especially if you're a species appropriate diet, because that's their
only real concern. And then they give them an anti
vomiting drug because it's going to try to get rid
of all the antibiotics and the anti diarrhea, because the
bad stuff is still in the body. Why would you
want to keep bad stuff in that body? Get rid
of it as quickly as you can.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Here, people are afraid.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yes, I mean, you know people when they so call
have food poisoning, or they have a hangover, or you know,
all these kinds of problems. You're actually sitting there praying
to get it out of your body. And as soon
as it happens you're cured.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Right, So myth number I don't even know this is
thirty eight and I flipped it over the counter. Flea
and tick sprayse work wonders. You know, heartworm and fleet tickments.
Are they beneficial?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Okay? First off, all of them say they do not
prevent anything, and yet you're being sold at. You're putting
a poison inside the body on the off chance that
they might pick something up. The scientific proof is that
you're trying to prove a negative and you can't do that.
Your animal could go his whole lifetime and never be
bit by a mosquito that's got heartwarm. Your pets could
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go a whole lifetime with never being having a tick
on their body. Fleas are another story. They may pick
them up. Fleas are hitchhikers. They they love immune suppressed
animals for their meals. That's what they're there for. They're
there to drink blood, a blood meal. They'll jump on
And I joke arout this all the time. If that
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animal is healthy, that blood tastes like crap to them,
like going to a bad Chinese restaurant, which I know
that picking in the Chinese, you know, but it's like
going to a bad restaurant, you'll never go back. The
fleas won't go back, they don't want to be there.
And the body also produces compounds that repel them naturally right.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And when they eat a species appropriate diet that fleas
really don't.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Want to And you're building not only not only don't
they like it, but you're also building up a heavy
dermal layer. It's hard for them to drill down to
get the blood. And on the heartworm, on a heartworm
part of it. Whenever I addressed veterinarians at conferences and
meetings and stuff like that, on the heartworm thing, first off,
we can control that with different botanicals, which biocomplete has
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been doing for decades. But on the other side of it,
I always ask them when was the last time you
were bit by a mosquito? Everybody raises their hand, and
then I had the caveat on the top of your head.
Mosquitoes don't like hair, you know, I mean they would
they would stay away from you completely with you got
a little bit more hair. You got a lot more
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hair than I do, but they love your shoulder.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'll grow hair so I don't get any of Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Listen, we missed the first break. Let's go to that
break right now and kill it.
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Speaker 2 (23:07):
And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show
where your pet has a voice. This is Bill, the
pet health Guru, along with our health coach Michelle, helping
me out with asking me a ton of questions on
the mythology of you know, everything that we've been told.
It seems like in medicine has been backwards and the opposite,
and to me, it seems like it's all about making money. So,
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you know, this is the issue that I run across again.
I want you to share, like and subscribe. The chat
room is open. Just go ahead and pop your questions
in and we'll try to answer all of them. Okay,
let's get back to Michelle.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Prior to the break, we were talking about heartworm, flea
and tick. So I live in a wooded area and
I do spray my dogs with some natural things that
I put together. You know, essentral oils. Do you recommend that?
Do you think that's a good idea?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Essential oils we have to be a little bit careful
with because those can be toxic as well. I know
the companies that promote this stuff say they're safe on animals,
but it depends on the quantity. And you know, a
light spraying when you're going out, I mean I like
to use something like any of the mint family and
a tea. Just make it a you know, in a
water solution. You know, you can do the same thing
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with lemon grass and catnip and stuff like that, because
it's not going to be harmful to the body. It's
not going to build up the essential oils. That the
worst part with essential oils is that they use them
the house in a diffuser, and of course everything that
goes up in the house has got to come down,
and they don't clean the floors, and you know, you
get that layer after layer after the layer of these oils,
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and they can be toxic.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Even if they're organic and come from reputition.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's so. I mean, all plants have
toxic components to them. That's how they keep the bugs
away from them.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay, well that goes in That segues into our next
myth about isn't it important what we clean our floors with,
what we clean our homes with? Some absolutely are they
just throw you.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Know, absolutely, our pets live on the floor. They live
on our furniture. And if you get you know, most
of the floorings, most of the furniture first off, is
coated in flame retardant, which is the number two contaminant
that they find in cats in their blood work. And
so this is very you know, and it accumulates over time.
I use an example like I had a client come
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in one time and said that you only use one
of these you know, handle things I don't want to
mention the name to clean the floor, but he only
uses it around where the dogs. Yeah, it's it's not
a mop with vinegar or anything, but he says I
only use it there. Well, if he's doing it, and
he was doing it like every day after they ate,
well that's in a year's time, he's got three hundred
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layers of those chemicals where the dog is eating. You know,
do you think that's gonna pick it up? You know,
I mean the dog walks over, he's standing on it,
he comes off, he licks his paws, he's cleaning himself.
Same with our cats.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
You know, don't think that you wash our clothes with
the same thing, because our dogs are my dogs. You
could see my babies over there. I put a sheet
on the couch. She's on the sheet and I washed that.
It's non toxic chemical.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, you have to ca.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Okay, are we ready that I'm dogs eat grass to
cleanse themselves. We spoke a little bit about it, but
is that the only reason they eat grass?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
That's the primary reason usually, but they will also eat
inappropriate things everything from grass and weeds to sticks and stones, socks, panties, clothing.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
But we know that when we're out there in the
woods taking our leisurely walk, how do we know what
they're eating is appropriate? Does the dog?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
We have to guess. But if we're feeding in a
species of appropriate diet, it takes a lot of the
guests work out. And the other thing with that is
that diet should be varied. It should be a rotational diet,
not feeding the same thing every day like they primarily
do with these kibble type foods and even the canned foods.
You know, you have to have that variety so you're
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not building up allergies, which is nothing more than toxins,
and so the animal doesn't come down with deficiencies as well,
the lack of the right minerals or the minerals and
the right balance.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Your next myth, hats should never eat dog food. I
know that's true of the sipple.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well to a certain degree. That's right because most dog
food is an inferior quality to cat food. Cats need
higher protein levels, usable proteins, and are much more finicky
about it because they're an obligate carnivore. Our dogs are
what we call an opportunistic carnivore, which means they scavenger
again they'll eat, you know, the socks. And we had
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one dog that we when they had a blockage, ended
up with a tea that he had swallowed a TV remote.
So well, plastic taste, yeah, well, the plastics tastes are
sweet in nature to their taste, so it tastes like
sugar and they become addicted just like we do.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Wow, that's strange. Do cats state touringe? Is that one
of the reasons I remember reading cats.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And dogs both need tourine. And but here's the kicker.
When you cook meat, it's found in meat muscle. Meat
primarily the heart muscle is actually the highest in turine,
but when you cook it, it totally destroys it. So
the only option that they have in a commercial food
is to add a synthetic form of it, which doesn't
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really help. And by the way, most of the synthetic
are made in China. We're going to Chinese people again, right.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
For Chinese people, I'm sorry. Dry food cleans your pets teeth.
Kibble cleans your pets teeth.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I dispelled that back in the early nineteen eighties when
the reason that we ended up with dental problems is
because they took the meat out of kibble. Basically, we
used to always have to add meat, canned meat, or
our own meat to the kibble to get them to
eat it. Meat enzymes dissolve tartar. When we took that out,
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there's no enzyme there. The sugars are. They don't have
emilise in their saliva, so they the sugars just stick
and that creates that calculus that tartar. And they came
out with a whole bunch of dog foods back in
the eighties that were all crunchier for clean your teeth.
No diet today has that on there because the FTC
(29:56):
said that was false advertising. It did not actually can
attributed to the dental problems, and of course the dental
problems are now a major income for most veterinary clinics.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Would you suggest, like Manuka honey or regular raw honey,
just rub it on their gums.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
If they've got tartar build up, the honey will help
break that down. It will also knock down the bad smell.
It softens the tartar and you can usually just wipe
it off with a gauze on your finger. Of course,
if you're doing recreational bones, those those scrapes things like
chicken necks, turkey necks, rib bones, the softer bones. But
(30:33):
it so will scrape, get tartar off and keep them clean.
And you've got the meat ends on. It goes along
with that. So the dual do the honey the honey.
If you've got a bad problem, I do it every
day until we get most of it off, and lets say,
it'll turn it soft and gummy and you can just
wipe it off or take a dental pick, you know,
depending on if your dog will allow you to do that.
(30:54):
Normally they're not too bad on your fingers, but you know,
cats are more of a problem because I don't like
to put my hands in a cat's mouth because they
might not take it out. So that's a little bit tougher,
and that's why they need to be on that meat diet. Also,
chunks of meat will also help that because they have
to get them quite often with raw fad. If there's
a ground diet, we find that the front teeth are
(31:15):
perfectly white. The bat teeth that will get a little
bit tarder because there's no meat enzymes getting out. They're
tearing and swallowing. So if I give them bigger chunks,
they have to chew on it. That puts that enzymes
out there and that breaks it down.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Veterinarians always say life stage appropriate diets, uppy kitten senior formulas,
they're the way to go. How can we explain to
people who get new puppies that those that is not
the way to go.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Well, first off, when you look at it, ninety percent
of the foods that are out there are for all
life stages, so we know right away they're inappropriate. There's
only actually one kitten and one puppy food, and that's
mom's milk, and that's how they all start. There should
be there's you know this whole. That's another one of
those myths that we have to wean them between six
and eight weeks. No, you know, there's no rush to
(32:06):
get them out the door. You let them nurse until
they're done. And you know, nursing moms or previously nursing
moms know that the longer you can keep your baby nursing,
the healthier they're going to be.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Interesting. I won't tell you how long I nurse for,
but okay, that's another podcast. Miss cat hats should.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Drink milk they can Okay, Again, there's another liquids just
like bone broth. But again they have trouble bringing in
enough because they don't lap it up. But if you
mix it with the food, yes, it should be raw milk.
Only never never, never that process stuff, because it's not milk,
it's you know, And again that's another way that they've
(32:47):
hijacked our vocabulary. They are naming of things. You know,
they take stuff, they change it and then call it
what the original product is, and we don't most consumers
wouldn't know the difference.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Would you How about raw goat milk? Would you think
that would be better?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Any any milk is fine. It could be goat, it
can be cow as long as it's raw, could be sheep, camel, water, buffalow.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Also, would you suggest giving well.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You're using that you're kind of doing as a supplemental feeding,
so you know, a couple of times a week is fine.
You know it's gonna give them extra vitamin D and
extra calc that whole calcium blend of minerals. So I
mean it's going to be very very you know, health
related to that, and of course it's going to help
out their gut because raw milk is loaded with natural probiotics.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So if that was my next myth. Cats to vomit
are just six, so it's normal for them to vomit.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That yes, and we have to remember that the bad
stuff in the body didn't just come from their last meal.
It's in their environment. A lot of these toxins came
down in mom's blood when they were see grandma's blood.
It goes generation and we find stuff that was you know,
I know that with the ivermetin product on horses. We
(34:05):
found toxic levels of ivermetin when they were ten. The
horses were ten generations down. And it wasn't in the
gut it was supposed to be killing parasites. It was
literally in the muscle tissue. Okay, we're gonna be right
back after this quick break.
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Speaker 2 (36:02):
And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show
where your pet has a voice. This is Bill along
with my special guest Michelle, and we're answering as many
questions as we can. I know you've got you probably
haven't gotten a third way through your list or any.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I'm looking like my next myth or maybe not bang
and neutering prevents cancer.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
My simplest way of putting it is Number one, there
are no spare parts in the body. The body needs
them all for very specific reasons. And it's not just
about you know, with about sex. It controls growth, a
bone formation, all these other things. Now, if I take
out the testicles or the uterus on a dog, will
(36:48):
that prevent cancer in that area, of course, because it's
not there anymore. But it doesn't prevent cancer overall. And
I get usually thrown out of veterinary offices when they
tell me that it's essential to prevent this. And I
look at the veterinarian or the staff and I say, well,
you know what, I never want you to get lung cancer,
so therefore, let's remove your lungs. You know what the
(37:08):
results of that would be, There's no life without it.
But that's how But that's but I mean, that's the
same principle. That's the principle behind it.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Wow, Okay, so myth number nine hundred, that's what my
myth was. So lumps, lumps and bumps and our dogs
and our pets, are they cancerous? Are they cancer every lump?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Basically yes? Basically yes, because cancer sells those lumps and
bumps that make those up are deformed, dying, and problematic cells.
The body puts them in this very specific places to
try to get rid of them. That she's gonna use
this to be a weak spot in the body. And
(37:54):
basically when you're on a dog, especially in cats, it's
going to be on the outside because the body is
pushing those bad cells out of the body to get
rhythm ready to get rid of them. And we have
they like views. So what happens with cancers, okay, is
we have to take a look because cancer cells are
actually designed to eat poisons, toxins, So we have to
(38:17):
look at what poison have we been putting in that
body and where's it coming from? Is it coming from
process ultra processed foods. Is it caused by all these
preventative medicines and medications you know? Is it from our environment?
You know, the lawn chemicals, our cleaning compounds that you mentioned.
All these things take a toll and the can cancer
(38:38):
only develops when that body gets over its normal load.
Humans make twenty five thousand cancer cells a day, and
as long as we stay in our toxic load where
twenty five thousand can handle it, naturally we're healthy. When
it goes over that toxic load. Now we have a problem.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
And it's important to state that if we remove those growths,
then they're going to keep coming back better.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Exactly because yeah, we haven't gone after the clause. You
have to treat the whole body, and of course if
by all complete, we've got different herbals and botanicals and
the hetogenic diet and things of this nature that are
very very important, and they are actually designed to let
the body heal itself. That's the only thing that heals.
No drug heals anything. It's the body has to do
(39:27):
the work itself and we just have to support it.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
As a testimonial, my job, a golden dude will not
this one, this American bully. She had lumps and bumps,
and now as a result of using the herbs, her
lumps and bumps are going away, so thank you. Pets
should eat two to three times a day.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That's up to up to the individual owner. Basically, in
the wild they never know when their next meal is coming,
so sometimes they will get two meals a day if
it's small meals. If they do a big kill, they'll
just stay there and gorge themselves until they're so full.
There is no set rule on that you know, on
puppies because they're growing so quickly. In kittens, I will
(40:11):
sometimes do multiple feedings when they get to be adults.
One feeding a day can be fine.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
What if they're still looking like they want to eat to.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Just yeah, then we just add more food to it.
We let them do a gorging meal. The other thing
we have to remember is if we're feeding three or
four times a day, that digestive track is working twenty
four to seven. You want them to eat, digest and rest.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
That's like people like an intermittent fasting. Yes, okay, So
if they do not eat because that's their own free
will and they don't want.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
To eat for three or four days, I don't panic.
I watch the behavior of the animal. I watch the
behavior of the animal. If it looks like there's something
else going on, then we start to investigate. But we
can also look at different supplemental feedings for energy and
or uh, you know, bacterial problems things of that nature.
Things like raw honey which is a quick pick me up,
(41:07):
and of course natural antibiotics in itself and a probiotics
in itself.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
So people who would like to change over from dry
food to raw food. I know it's been said, oh,
you should wait a few days or just feed a
little bit out of time. I just went all in.
I just did it and it works.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
You did it right. You did it right, because that
mean when we will understand that. So when we when
we travel, we get off the plane in a strange country,
you're eating what's there. There is no transitional diet. It's
either eat or don't eat. And your body's gonna get
rid of certain tops and you're gonna get certain cleansing.
So you know, just be just understanding that's part of
(41:46):
a natural process.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
It's not you'll understand when the dog is eating raw
for the first time, they are haven't going through diarrhea.
Can I have one more? Two more? Okay? Another myth.
Probiotics are an absolute must for your pet.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
They're in the food, especially raw dairy, and those are
also sometimes when they they'll eat eat dirt because the
soil is loaded with soil based probiotics, which are actually
the healthiest should we be And and actually I just
put it in a little bit extround there. Most of
(42:22):
the probiotics that you buy for dogs are the wrong kind,
and they're already dead, so it's not going to do
any good except into your wallet.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Should we be giving dogs salt in Malayan salt, Baja gold.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Salt, no table salt, but yes, the natural salts, heavy
mineral salt a little bit on an occasional basis. That's
important as well.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Okay, Garlic and onions will make your dogs sick.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
The same thing is a chalcolad. Okay, they've got compounds
in them that can be dangerous if they're done in excess.
The study that was done on dogs with garlic, it
took forty five whole clothes that at one time to
get a beagle sick enough that we might have lost
(43:09):
them forty five at one time. You have to eat
a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
They have a lot. What about brewers yeast they.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Have bies is a byproduct. You have to remember that's
a byproduct.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Don't do that up. Dogs eating poop at poop.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Is normal, it's not normal. But because we're feeding such
poor proteins in the food, Okay, that poop is probably
more digestible and more nutrients in it than the food
that they're feeding out of a bag.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Hey, ear wax and your dogs is normal.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It's a sign that you've got a lymphatic problem. The
body's detoxifying. If you've got a lymphatic problem where it's
pushing things out of the ears. Paul looking and chewing
a land problems things like that, that means there's a
liver problem on top of it. And we're down to
like the last minute and a half two minutes of
the show.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I think I did it.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
You did it, We did it.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
I got all of them.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Good and then I'm glad. I think I think we
did a great job of getting a lot of stuff
out there. I hope that the audience appreciates it, that
we hit some of the key points that they're looking
at as well. Again, I get every week with this podcast.
It's like I run out of time and I could
keep and I'm sure you could keep going for another
(44:25):
another hour with no trouble at all. Thank you, Yes,
And hopefully, like I said, this helps out of course,
I'm available at my Paleo pat and and you know
pet HEALTHFA all my social media and everything. People can
reach you.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
How Facebook Michelle reggaev on Facebook would be the best
way to reach me. As you know, I'm a holistic
health coach and I now.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Do pets and one and one of the things I
want to just end this with is a lot of
these principles apply to humans as well. And with that
being said, I want to thank everybody for watching and
listening and hopefully you've got a lot out of it.
If you have more questions, don't hesitate to contact us
and we'll be back with another different show sometime soon.
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See you later, Bye bye, thank you, thank you.
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where your Pet has a Voice.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and
welcome to the Pet Health Cafe to show where your
pet has a Voice. This is Bill the Pet Health
Guru with you for another exciting podcast into your pets
health and into your health as well as always, I
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(01:17):
to throw in your questions as we go through some
of the mythology of pet care, some of the good
and bad things that we've been told on how to
care for our animals and things like that. And for
this show, I'm bringing in our health coach Michelle as
a basically a customer and a client for over fifteen years.
(01:42):
So I think you're there, aren't you there, Michelle?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yes, I am good evening, Bill, good evening everybody. Thank
you so much for having me on again. I really
would love to educate your people on all of these myths.
You know, how I talk to everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Should do of them, Bill, And of course you're also
teaching our children, which they need to know this stuff upfront,
because you know, the kids spend most of their time
with the animal, not the adults, and so if they
know the proper things the you know, the what's good
(02:20):
and bad and what's ugly, you know, we can then
get them off on the right start with any you know,
pets that they might have, and of course as they
grow up, they'll be able to do things right and
not have to suffer like so many pet owners today
with the cancers and you know, the diabetes and all
the skin problems and dental problems and all that stuff
(02:41):
that we see every single day that we have to
try to fix. Absolutely, And with that, I think you
said you have about two thousand questions for me tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I wrote about forty myths after you know, having spoken
to so many parents and friends and relatives, I did
all these things, and myth number one but from raw
diets and harbor dangerous bacteria like salmonella and E. Coli.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well you're gonna hit me with the big one right
up front. That's great. The interesting thing about this is,
you know, and it's going to depend on the manufacture,
the supplier and that sort of thing, whether the food
is clean or not, what the quality is going to
be like. But in general, of course I know it
at Biocomplete Natural Diets and at my Paleo pet, we're
only using real, good, clean, human grade foods. But when
(03:35):
it's sold to a pat it's got to be labeled
not for human consumption, because the Department of Agriculture has
determined that if your intention is to give it to
your pet, it can no longer be human. Great, and
it's all about licensing and things of that nature. Basically,
if to come, if your provider is using the same
(03:55):
meat that you buy every single day at the supermarket,
or better, which is what we do, we go with
it next step higher. You shouldn't have any pathogens. I
remember we had a this is about ten twelve, maybe
fifteen years ago, we had an inspection by the US
Department of Agriculture and it was local and state and
(04:16):
federal inspectors, and I had a sticker on my deli cases.
We had the real deli case for pets back then,
and I had on their E coli and salmonella free
USDA inspected and the local inspector went through the ceiling,
Oh my god, we didn't check your foods. I said, well,
it's on the box, and then she didn't believe that,
(04:39):
and I took her back in the cooler and the freezer,
and I said, there's your stamp that says and it's
on your website, So am I to believe that it's
not if you inspected it. The federal inspectors thought that
was rather an interesting question that I posed for them,
because obviously a lot of these inspectors don't know and
they just keep trying to break your chops. But basically,
(05:00):
if you use normal safe food handling, you know procedures,
you're not gonna have a problem. And to be honest,
the salmonella and E coli warnings are so outdated because
you're got every one of us have salomona and eal
like inner gut for digestion, and basically it's transmitted true feces.
(05:25):
So unless you're pooping on your counters, you.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Know there are people too with cutting boards, and hurry
up for when we're making our own exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, of course you've heard me say this, this this
one thing I probably had a thousand times. If you
heard it. One your dog licks their butt and then
kisses you on the lips and you're still alive.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Other myth, okay, myth number two. I gotta get rolling.
We have a lot. Don't worry everybody. We'll get to.
So dogs shouldn't eat raw or cooked bones, especially chicken
or turkey bone.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's again, think about their wild cousins. They consume the
whole animal. Now, their wild cousins do not cook the meat.
That's true. However, sometimes when they go back to a
kill several days later, that meat has been dried out,
sun dried, or just dehydrated basically by the weather, and
(06:24):
those bones but basically get crunched down. The only bone
that I've really seen problematic are big, and I mean
big turkey leg bones, and it's not because of anything
that it does see intestine. I mean in sixty years,
we've never seen and I've had several veterinarians on the
confirmed it a gut tore up by bones, because that
(06:47):
gut is really, really tough. But those hollow leg bones
on a turkey have a tendency to get stuck on
their K nine teeth, and then they're fighting to get
it off, you know, and it's just an annoyance more
than anything else. But that's a that's really the only one.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Snuckle bones I understand not to give them because they
can also get stuck on their teeth knucklebones.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Knucklebones are generally pretty good the femurs. If they're cut
too thin on a big one, I've seen them get
hooked over the K nine teeth. Again, that's because of structure,
but that's usually not a problem. Veterinarians will also tell
you not to feed them because you might, especially on
the long bones of the leg bones femurs, that they
(07:32):
might break a tooth. Well, the reason they're eating bones
is because they need calcium. If you break a tooth,
you're already deficient in calcium. So you know, it's kind
of an oxymoron that they tell people. You know, it
makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Thank you, So myth Number three, dogs should be given
rice when they have diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You should use Elmer's glue instead, because that's basically what
rice does. It's a starch, it's glue, and not only
does it firm up the stool, which is that's what
they're trying to accomplish. But first off, dog stool should
always be soft and almost watery because the elimination process
in nature has to be very quick. You don't want
(08:14):
them straining and you other going and become somebody else's food.
The other part of that, though, is that rice, because
it converts to sugar, sticks to the intestinal wall and
the wall of the colon, and then as it's being
cleaned out, it's literally peeling that dermal layer that's in
the gut off and now you've got blood in the stool.
(08:36):
It's not dangerous, but people freak out. But that's a
natural part of it.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I mean, I really don't eat much rice. There's arsenic
in it, and I just it's.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well, that's the other problem too. How is it raised
as a gmo? Is it sprayed with like fasse eight?
How is it prepared? You know, all these things come
into play with this stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Would you recommend pumpkin if your dog, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It's the same problem, said, I mean, it still turns
the sugar, it's still carbohydrate based, so you've got the
same types of problem. Yes, yes, you're the body is
trying to get rid of something that's bad. It's not
the food, it's something that's already bad in the body.
It's better to let it run now. If you want
something to comment down. If it's really really mucasy and
(09:21):
really really watery, which is what diarrhea is, it's basically water.
You know, the body's pushing all that water out to
clean itself out. And I use things like natural cures
like slippery elm powder or or marshmallow root powder. Those
are natural and actually help create a better mucous lining
(09:42):
in that gut a dog is.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Eating the grass. Is that also beneficial?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, basically that's part of the cleansing process, becau they're
trying to get something in their body that they can
literally vomit most of the time, because when you stop
and think about it, with all the toxins around us,
the body produces a lot of new kiss. Dogs can't
spit it up like we do, so they have to
get something in there that the body is going to reject,
(10:08):
and as it rejects it, it's grabbing that mucus. And
when you look at that pile on the floor, it's
almost all mucus, and you know there might be some
food particles, but again depending on what they're feeding. If
you're feeding a raw diet, a species appropriate diet, there's
not going to be much food there. If it's a
kibble diet, you know, you might have a lot. And
of course the problem with both the diarrhea and the
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kibble and the vomiting with kibble is we're dehydrating the
body because they're putting a dry food into that body
and there's no moisture to be able to utilize it.
And that's that's an important thing, especially with cats, because
cats are a desert animal. They're designed to get all
their moisture from their food, not from a water bowl.
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Dogs can curl their tongue and lap up water. Cats
literally go to the water bowl, they dip their tongue
in and getting a drop at a time. You know,
I joke around with a lot of my customers. I said,
if you know, if I'm trying to get you know,
we're out on a date and I try to get you,
give you a couple of martinis, but you can only
drink at one drop at a time. I'm gonna be
there forever.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That's funny myth Four Sweet potatoes and vegetables should be
added to every food, whether it be dry food, species
appropriate diet.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's interesting because I was listening to a podcast earlier today,
which is one of many that I listened to. But
dogs and cats are carnivores. They cannot break down those
vegetables very well. Yes, over time, they have a they
have to do so that you can use some of
that carbohydrate matter, but it's very inefficient and it actually
(11:44):
creates more digestive issues. The what I found interesting is
they're now telling us, as humans who are omnivores, to
cut back on the fruits and vegetables because of the
high sugar content. And you know sugar creates inflammation.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Huh No, more broccoli from my sister's dog. She loved.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No. And of course, you know, as you've heard me
say before, these vegetables today, especially the vegetables, the fruits
not so much. But the vegetables are all man made.
They are not found in the wild, so they don't
have the same energy and digestibility that ancients would, and
the ancients would be things like different herbs and botanical
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So if you think your animal needs, you know, something
on the green side, look at the ancient vegetables of
the different herbs and botanicals, and then search them out
for what they carry, the actual nutrients. That's the important part,
because they are right yea rolina, yeah, kel.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
They love it. I don't put it on their food,
they really, They'll tell me, yeah, they do. Mid five.
Number five dogs should never eat grapes or chocolate.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh my god, that's that's interesting because number one in
the wild. Where would wolves get chocolate. I mean, that's
something that we should not be feeding our processed foods.
It's not about people. Food is about the processed foods,
and chocolate happens to be one of them. When you
look at most chocolate today, you know, actually the cacao
(13:25):
that we make chocolate with is a great antioxidant. And
yes it does carry the theobromide, which is toxic, but
in small amounts it's it's not harmful. I mean, I've
running across dozens and dozens of cases over the years.
It's not hundreds where dogs have eating the whole tray
of brownies and you know the best the worst thing
(13:47):
that happens to them is, you know, you take them
out for a walk and you know you got to
clean up a little extra poop. Grapes. On the other hand,
they might eat one or two in nature because you
know that there is a natural plant, it is a
natural fruit. But again, they won't eat that if their
body is in balance, if it's out of balance with
vitamins and minerals, they won't. So you know, if you're
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if your dog is you know, bothering you while you're
eating either one of these products, A small amount's not
going to bother them.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Is good?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Should it be? Can it be less? I mean I
don't eat.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, it runs up and you know the things I
see that that actually the cacao on our part, anything
over seventy seventy five percent is healthy. And you know it. Actually,
it's funny because we don't we don't realize that modern
chocolate with the a these chocolate bars and everything else,
it's made cheap. It's full. It's not only sugar, and
it's refined sugars and high fruit, toast, corn, sorup. But
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it also contains a lot of different waxes and other stabilizers,
so it won't melt on the shelf. And it's not
the cacaw that's the problem, it's all the other things
that are in that there other ingredients.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Okay, silt, don't, don't be mad. But number six, I
have to say the V word.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, Well, we already know you're talking about those preventive
things that come out of a syringe, right, Okay, that
I made, Yes, I made. I made a special note
about that because first off, people don't realize what's in them.
There's all kinds of antibiotics and sorbitol and tissue from
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other animals and DNA from other animals, and preservatives, aluminum, mercury, squalen,
all this stuff that are actually all poisons. Now do
they work? Actually, there isn't a study out there that
shows any of them really work. That was a legitimate study.
(15:48):
There's been a lot of made up stuff, you know,
even on the human side, and for since they since
the first ones came out. And part of the issue
with that too is if it really is a p
if that statement were true, how do we know where
natural immunity stops and acquired kicks in. And that's why
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that's how the whole thing with the you know, six nine, six, eight, ten,
twelve week old you know animals keep getting this repeated
is because we have no idea. We have no idea
where mom's immunity stops. And the body also has specialized
cells that are memory cells. And even though it's not there,
(16:33):
you know, and a tighter and if you're doing it's tighter,
that doesn't mean that the body, that the body, the
mitochondria don't remember it. And that's what we're finding out.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Don't even do it for newborn babies.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, absolutely not. You know, start mom out before she
gives birth on a good species appropriate diet. I have
several different protocols that I've been following for decades and
decades that get your pups off to a great start.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Excellent, thank you. Myth number seven, you should immediately run
to the vet. And if your pet is vomiting or
has diarrhea, like, hurry up, get in the car and run.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
That's only true if you like to spend money on nothing,
because there's not a procedure that they do that is helpful.
For the most part, that you can't do at home.
That vomiting and diarrhea are nothing more than housekeeping. There's
something bad inside the body, it's got to get out.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
When you go to the the animal hospital, the first
thing they try to do is they use an anti
diarrheal to it up. Plug up that end. They give
them antibiotics. They have no idea what's causing it, so
that's just you know, actually creating a worse firestorm. They
then add in fluids even if the animal is not dehydrated,
(17:50):
especially if you're a species appropriate diet, because that's their
only real concern. And then they give them an anti
vomiting drug because it's going to try to get rid
of all the antibiotics and the anti diarrhea, because the
bad stuff is still in the body. Why would you
want to keep bad stuff in that body? Get rid
of it as quickly as you can.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Here, people are afraid.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yes, I mean, you know people when they so call
have food poisoning, or they have a hangover, or you know,
all these kinds of problems. You're actually sitting there praying
to get it out of your body. And as soon
as it happens you're cured.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Right, So myth number I don't even know this is
thirty eight and I flipped it over the counter. Flea
and tick sprayse work wonders. You know, heartworm and fleet tickments.
Are they beneficial?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Okay? First off, all of them say they do not
prevent anything, and yet you're being sold at. You're putting
a poison inside the body on the off chance that
they might pick something up. The scientific proof is that
you're trying to prove a negative and you can't do that.
Your animal could go his whole lifetime and never be
bit by a mosquito that's got heartwarm. Your pets could
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go a whole lifetime with never being having a tick
on their body. Fleas are another story. They may pick
them up. Fleas are hitchhikers. They they love immune suppressed
animals for their meals. That's what they're there for. They're
there to drink blood, a blood meal. They'll jump on
And I joke arout this all the time. If that
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animal is healthy, that blood tastes like crap to them,
like going to a bad Chinese restaurant, which I know
that picking in the Chinese, you know, but it's like
going to a bad restaurant, you'll never go back. The
fleas won't go back, they don't want to be there.
And the body also produces compounds that repel them naturally right.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And when they eat a species appropriate diet that fleas
really don't.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Want to And you're building not only not only don't
they like it, but you're also building up a heavy
dermal layer. It's hard for them to drill down to
get the blood. And on the heartworm, on a heartworm
part of it. Whenever I addressed veterinarians at conferences and
meetings and stuff like that, on the heartworm thing, first off,
we can control that with different botanicals, which biocomplete has
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been doing for decades. But on the other side of it,
I always ask them when was the last time you
were bit by a mosquito? Everybody raises their hand, and
then I had the caveat on the top of your head.
Mosquitoes don't like hair, you know, I mean they would
they would stay away from you completely with you got
a little bit more hair. You got a lot more
(20:35):
hair than I do, but they love your shoulder.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'll grow hair so I don't get any of Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Listen, we missed the first break. Let's go to that
break right now and kill it.
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Speaker 2 (23:07):
And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show
where your pet has a voice. This is Bill, the
pet health Guru, along with our health coach Michelle, helping
me out with asking me a ton of questions on
the mythology of you know, everything that we've been told.
It seems like in medicine has been backwards and the opposite,
and to me, it seems like it's all about making money. So,
(23:31):
you know, this is the issue that I run across again.
I want you to share, like and subscribe. The chat
room is open. Just go ahead and pop your questions
in and we'll try to answer all of them. Okay,
let's get back to Michelle.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Prior to the break, we were talking about heartworm, flea
and tick. So I live in a wooded area and
I do spray my dogs with some natural things that
I put together. You know, essentral oils. Do you recommend that?
Do you think that's a good idea?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Essential oils we have to be a little bit careful
with because those can be toxic as well. I know
the companies that promote this stuff say they're safe on animals,
but it depends on the quantity. And you know, a
light spraying when you're going out, I mean I like
to use something like any of the mint family and
a tea. Just make it a you know, in a
water solution. You know, you can do the same thing
(24:25):
with lemon grass and catnip and stuff like that, because
it's not going to be harmful to the body. It's
not going to build up the essential oils. That the
worst part with essential oils is that they use them
the house in a diffuser, and of course everything that
goes up in the house has got to come down,
and they don't clean the floors, and you know, you
get that layer after layer after the layer of these oils,
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and they can be toxic.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Even if they're organic and come from reputition.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's so. I mean, all plants have
toxic components to them. That's how they keep the bugs
away from them.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay, well that goes in That segues into our next
myth about isn't it important what we clean our floors with,
what we clean our homes with? Some absolutely are they
just throw you.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Know, absolutely, our pets live on the floor. They live
on our furniture. And if you get you know, most
of the floorings, most of the furniture first off, is
coated in flame retardant, which is the number two contaminant
that they find in cats in their blood work. And
so this is very you know, and it accumulates over time.
I use an example like I had a client come
(25:35):
in one time and said that you only use one
of these you know, handle things I don't want to
mention the name to clean the floor, but he only
uses it around where the dogs. Yeah, it's it's not
a mop with vinegar or anything, but he says I
only use it there. Well, if he's doing it, and
he was doing it like every day after they ate,
well that's in a year's time, he's got three hundred
(25:59):
layers of those chemicals where the dog is eating. You know,
do you think that's gonna pick it up? You know,
I mean the dog walks over, he's standing on it,
he comes off, he licks his paws, he's cleaning himself.
Same with our cats.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
You know, don't think that you wash our clothes with
the same thing, because our dogs are my dogs. You
could see my babies over there. I put a sheet
on the couch. She's on the sheet and I washed that.
It's non toxic chemical.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, you have to ca.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Okay, are we ready that I'm dogs eat grass to
cleanse themselves. We spoke a little bit about it, but
is that the only reason they eat grass?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
That's the primary reason usually, but they will also eat
inappropriate things everything from grass and weeds to sticks and stones, socks, panties, clothing.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
But we know that when we're out there in the
woods taking our leisurely walk, how do we know what
they're eating is appropriate? Does the dog?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
We have to guess. But if we're feeding in a
species of appropriate diet, it takes a lot of the
guests work out. And the other thing with that is
that diet should be varied. It should be a rotational diet,
not feeding the same thing every day like they primarily
do with these kibble type foods and even the canned foods.
You know, you have to have that variety so you're
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not building up allergies, which is nothing more than toxins,
and so the animal doesn't come down with deficiencies as well,
the lack of the right minerals or the minerals and
the right balance.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Your next myth, hats should never eat dog food. I
know that's true of the sipple.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well to a certain degree. That's right because most dog
food is an inferior quality to cat food. Cats need
higher protein levels, usable proteins, and are much more finicky
about it because they're an obligate carnivore. Our dogs are
what we call an opportunistic carnivore, which means they scavenger
again they'll eat, you know, the socks. And we had
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one dog that we when they had a blockage, ended
up with a tea that he had swallowed a TV remote.
So well, plastic taste, yeah, well, the plastics tastes are
sweet in nature to their taste, so it tastes like
sugar and they become addicted just like we do.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Wow, that's strange. Do cats state touringe? Is that one
of the reasons I remember reading cats.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And dogs both need tourine. And but here's the kicker.
When you cook meat, it's found in meat muscle. Meat
primarily the heart muscle is actually the highest in turine,
but when you cook it, it totally destroys it. So
the only option that they have in a commercial food
is to add a synthetic form of it, which doesn't
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really help. And by the way, most of the synthetic
are made in China. We're going to Chinese people again, right.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
For Chinese people, I'm sorry. Dry food cleans your pets teeth.
Kibble cleans your pets teeth.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I dispelled that back in the early nineteen eighties when
the reason that we ended up with dental problems is
because they took the meat out of kibble. Basically, we
used to always have to add meat, canned meat, or
our own meat to the kibble to get them to
eat it. Meat enzymes dissolve tartar. When we took that out,
(29:34):
there's no enzyme there. The sugars are. They don't have
emilise in their saliva, so they the sugars just stick
and that creates that calculus that tartar. And they came
out with a whole bunch of dog foods back in
the eighties that were all crunchier for clean your teeth.
No diet today has that on there because the FTC
(29:56):
said that was false advertising. It did not actually can
attributed to the dental problems, and of course the dental
problems are now a major income for most veterinary clinics.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Would you suggest, like Manuka honey or regular raw honey,
just rub it on their gums.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
If they've got tartar build up, the honey will help
break that down. It will also knock down the bad smell.
It softens the tartar and you can usually just wipe
it off with a gauze on your finger. Of course,
if you're doing recreational bones, those those scrapes things like
chicken necks, turkey necks, rib bones, the softer bones. But
(30:33):
it so will scrape, get tartar off and keep them clean.
And you've got the meat ends on. It goes along
with that. So the dual do the honey the honey.
If you've got a bad problem, I do it every
day until we get most of it off, and lets say,
it'll turn it soft and gummy and you can just
wipe it off or take a dental pick, you know,
depending on if your dog will allow you to do that.
(30:54):
Normally they're not too bad on your fingers, but you know,
cats are more of a problem because I don't like
to put my hands in a cat's mouth because they
might not take it out. So that's a little bit tougher,
and that's why they need to be on that meat diet. Also,
chunks of meat will also help that because they have
to get them quite often with raw fad. If there's
a ground diet, we find that the front teeth are
(31:15):
perfectly white. The bat teeth that will get a little
bit tarder because there's no meat enzymes getting out. They're
tearing and swallowing. So if I give them bigger chunks,
they have to chew on it. That puts that enzymes
out there and that breaks it down.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Veterinarians always say life stage appropriate diets, uppy kitten senior formulas,
they're the way to go. How can we explain to
people who get new puppies that those that is not
the way to go.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Well, first off, when you look at it, ninety percent
of the foods that are out there are for all
life stages, so we know right away they're inappropriate. There's
only actually one kitten and one puppy food, and that's
mom's milk, and that's how they all start. There should
be there's you know this whole. That's another one of
those myths that we have to wean them between six
and eight weeks. No, you know, there's no rush to
(32:06):
get them out the door. You let them nurse until
they're done. And you know, nursing moms or previously nursing
moms know that the longer you can keep your baby nursing,
the healthier they're going to be.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Interesting. I won't tell you how long I nurse for,
but okay, that's another podcast. Miss cat hats should.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Drink milk they can Okay, Again, there's another liquids just
like bone broth. But again they have trouble bringing in
enough because they don't lap it up. But if you
mix it with the food, yes, it should be raw milk.
Only never never, never that process stuff, because it's not milk,
it's you know, And again that's another way that they've
(32:47):
hijacked our vocabulary. They are naming of things. You know,
they take stuff, they change it and then call it
what the original product is, and we don't most consumers
wouldn't know the difference.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Would you How about raw goat milk? Would you think
that would be better?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Any any milk is fine. It could be goat, it
can be cow as long as it's raw, could be sheep, camel, water, buffalow.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Also, would you suggest giving well.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You're using that you're kind of doing as a supplemental feeding,
so you know, a couple of times a week is fine.
You know it's gonna give them extra vitamin D and
extra calc that whole calcium blend of minerals. So I
mean it's going to be very very you know, health
related to that, and of course it's going to help
out their gut because raw milk is loaded with natural probiotics.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So if that was my next myth. Cats to vomit
are just six, so it's normal for them to vomit.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That yes, and we have to remember that the bad
stuff in the body didn't just come from their last meal.
It's in their environment. A lot of these toxins came
down in mom's blood when they were see grandma's blood.
It goes generation and we find stuff that was you know,
I know that with the ivermetin product on horses. We
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found toxic levels of ivermetin when they were ten. The
horses were ten generations down. And it wasn't in the
gut it was supposed to be killing parasites. It was
literally in the muscle tissue. Okay, we're gonna be right
back after this quick break.
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Speaker 2 (36:02):
And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show
where your pet has a voice. This is Bill along
with my special guest Michelle, and we're answering as many
questions as we can. I know you've got you probably
haven't gotten a third way through your list or any.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I'm looking like my next myth or maybe not bang
and neutering prevents cancer.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
My simplest way of putting it is Number one, there
are no spare parts in the body. The body needs
them all for very specific reasons. And it's not just
about you know, with about sex. It controls growth, a
bone formation, all these other things. Now, if I take
out the testicles or the uterus on a dog, will
(36:48):
that prevent cancer in that area, of course, because it's
not there anymore. But it doesn't prevent cancer overall. And
I get usually thrown out of veterinary offices when they
tell me that it's essential to prevent this. And I
look at the veterinarian or the staff and I say, well,
you know what, I never want you to get lung cancer,
so therefore, let's remove your lungs. You know what the
(37:08):
results of that would be, There's no life without it.
But that's how But that's but I mean, that's the
same principle. That's the principle behind it.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Wow, Okay, so myth number nine hundred, that's what my
myth was. So lumps, lumps and bumps and our dogs
and our pets, are they cancerous? Are they cancer every lump?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Basically yes? Basically yes, because cancer sells those lumps and
bumps that make those up are deformed, dying, and problematic cells.
The body puts them in this very specific places to
try to get rid of them. That she's gonna use
this to be a weak spot in the body. And
(37:54):
basically when you're on a dog, especially in cats, it's
going to be on the outside because the body is
pushing those bad cells out of the body to get
rhythm ready to get rid of them. And we have
they like views. So what happens with cancers, okay, is
we have to take a look because cancer cells are
actually designed to eat poisons, toxins, So we have to
(38:17):
look at what poison have we been putting in that
body and where's it coming from? Is it coming from
process ultra processed foods. Is it caused by all these
preventative medicines and medications you know? Is it from our environment?
You know, the lawn chemicals, our cleaning compounds that you mentioned.
All these things take a toll and the can cancer
(38:38):
only develops when that body gets over its normal load.
Humans make twenty five thousand cancer cells a day, and
as long as we stay in our toxic load where
twenty five thousand can handle it, naturally we're healthy. When
it goes over that toxic load. Now we have a problem.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
And it's important to state that if we remove those growths,
then they're going to keep coming back better.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Exactly because yeah, we haven't gone after the clause. You
have to treat the whole body, and of course if
by all complete, we've got different herbals and botanicals and
the hetogenic diet and things of this nature that are
very very important, and they are actually designed to let
the body heal itself. That's the only thing that heals.
No drug heals anything. It's the body has to do
(39:27):
the work itself and we just have to support it.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
As a testimonial, my job, a golden dude will not
this one, this American bully. She had lumps and bumps,
and now as a result of using the herbs, her
lumps and bumps are going away, so thank you. Pets
should eat two to three times a day.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That's up to up to the individual owner. Basically, in
the wild they never know when their next meal is coming,
so sometimes they will get two meals a day if
it's small meals. If they do a big kill, they'll
just stay there and gorge themselves until they're so full.
There is no set rule on that you know, on
puppies because they're growing so quickly. In kittens, I will
(40:11):
sometimes do multiple feedings when they get to be adults.
One feeding a day can be fine.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
What if they're still looking like they want to eat to.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Just yeah, then we just add more food to it.
We let them do a gorging meal. The other thing
we have to remember is if we're feeding three or
four times a day, that digestive track is working twenty
four to seven. You want them to eat, digest and rest.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
That's like people like an intermittent fasting. Yes, okay, So
if they do not eat because that's their own free
will and they don't want.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
To eat for three or four days, I don't panic.
I watch the behavior of the animal. I watch the
behavior of the animal. If it looks like there's something
else going on, then we start to investigate. But we
can also look at different supplemental feedings for energy and
or uh, you know, bacterial problems things of that nature.
Things like raw honey which is a quick pick me up,
(41:07):
and of course natural antibiotics in itself and a probiotics
in itself.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
So people who would like to change over from dry
food to raw food. I know it's been said, oh,
you should wait a few days or just feed a
little bit out of time. I just went all in.
I just did it and it works.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
You did it right. You did it right, because that
mean when we will understand that. So when we when
we travel, we get off the plane in a strange country,
you're eating what's there. There is no transitional diet. It's
either eat or don't eat. And your body's gonna get
rid of certain tops and you're gonna get certain cleansing.
So you know, just be just understanding that's part of
(41:46):
a natural process.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
It's not you'll understand when the dog is eating raw
for the first time, they are haven't going through diarrhea.
Can I have one more? Two more? Okay? Another myth.
Probiotics are an absolute must for your pet.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
They're in the food, especially raw dairy, and those are
also sometimes when they they'll eat eat dirt because the
soil is loaded with soil based probiotics, which are actually
the healthiest should we be And and actually I just
put it in a little bit extround there. Most of
(42:22):
the probiotics that you buy for dogs are the wrong kind,
and they're already dead, so it's not going to do
any good except into your wallet.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Should we be giving dogs salt in Malayan salt, Baja gold.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Salt, no table salt, but yes, the natural salts, heavy
mineral salt a little bit on an occasional basis. That's
important as well.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Okay, Garlic and onions will make your dogs sick.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
The same thing is a chalcolad. Okay, they've got compounds
in them that can be dangerous if they're done in excess.
The study that was done on dogs with garlic, it
took forty five whole clothes that at one time to
get a beagle sick enough that we might have lost
(43:09):
them forty five at one time. You have to eat
a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
They have a lot. What about brewers yeast they.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Have bies is a byproduct. You have to remember that's
a byproduct.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Don't do that up. Dogs eating poop at poop.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Is normal, it's not normal. But because we're feeding such
poor proteins in the food, Okay, that poop is probably
more digestible and more nutrients in it than the food
that they're feeding out of a bag.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Hey, ear wax and your dogs is normal.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It's a sign that you've got a lymphatic problem. The
body's detoxifying. If you've got a lymphatic problem where it's
pushing things out of the ears. Paul looking and chewing
a land problems things like that, that means there's a
liver problem on top of it. And we're down to
like the last minute and a half two minutes of
the show.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I think I did it.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
You did it, We did it.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
I got all of them.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Good and then I'm glad. I think I think we
did a great job of getting a lot of stuff
out there. I hope that the audience appreciates it, that
we hit some of the key points that they're looking
at as well. Again, I get every week with this podcast.
It's like I run out of time and I could
keep and I'm sure you could keep going for another
(44:25):
another hour with no trouble at all. Thank you, Yes,
And hopefully, like I said, this helps out of course,
I'm available at my Paleo pat and and you know
pet HEALTHFA all my social media and everything. People can
reach you.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
How Facebook Michelle reggaev on Facebook would be the best
way to reach me. As you know, I'm a holistic
health coach and I now.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Do pets and one and one of the things I
want to just end this with is a lot of
these principles apply to humans as well. And with that
being said, I want to thank everybody for watching and
listening and hopefully you've got a lot out of it.
If you have more questions, don't hesitate to contact us
and we'll be back with another different show sometime soon.
(45:12):
See you later, Bye bye, thank you, thank you.
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