July 10, 2025 • 47 mins
As a regular guest on Pet Health Cafe, he is always able to bring insight and new discoveries from a different perspective to add to our health journey. He shows how UTI's happen and we discuss how drugs like antibiotics can cause life-changing effects & how natural nutrition cures and prevents. ANSWERS finally!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Any health related information on the following show provides general
information only. Content presented on any show by any host
or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health
(00:30):
Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,
Bill the Pet Health Guru, And.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your
Pet Has a Voice. This is Bill, Pet Health Guru,
and I've got another exciting show for you tonight. We're
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a lot. And with that being said, tackling today a
problem that seems to be a bigger health issue than
is really out there stated in the general public. But
we see a lot of it built in our pets
and in our human population. And if any of you
saw the lead in, yes, it's a show on urinary
(01:50):
trek infections and with me tonight is going to be
my special guest, Morley Robbins. How you doing? You made
it okay now, Morley, But.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I realized what I was doing wrong. I forgot to
allow myself to get into the system. So yeah, everything
was fine.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I was yelling, plug the computer in. Plugged.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
The problem was plugged the human in.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I know, plug the human in. Plut the human in.
So how you doing? You got back from your your
little whorl Win worldwide trip.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
We had a very successful trip to France and England
and that was a lot of fun, a lot of work,
but it was also a lot of fun. Good And
then we're going to be down in another foreign country Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh yes, oh you were down there? And did you
stop in and see a good friend our engineer and producer.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
No, she's going to be mad at me because I was.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Now I'm going to tell her on the last show,
I started to let her jump in here when she
wants to make comments, so you might be in trouble.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I was late here and I didn't tell where I
was coming.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So anyway, as I mentioned, were you know you you
send me a note said, uh, you've got some information
on UTIs, and I think in the in the very
beginning here, uh, you know you're urinary track infections. My
first question is is it really an infection?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Often? Okay, it's a real deal, and I think it's
each year. I mean, the numbers are really staggering. Two
hundred million Americans have some form of kidney issue during
the course of the year. It's it's two it's almost
two thirds of the country. It's just like, yeah, wow, number,
(03:47):
the numbers are mind boggling. I've forgotten how many people
get just UTIs, but it's a very big number. I
don't know what what the incidence is in the well,
but I would imagine it does exist in a surely
prominent way as well.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well. Actually it's it's it's a commonly diagnosed issue. But
the reason I ask that question right at the very beginning,
Is it really an infection? Is because generally speaking, when
they do cultures on urine with when they diagnose UTIs,
(04:23):
and of course after they've prescribed a ton of antibiotics, uh,
there's no you know, there's there's no uh, bacterial infection,
which makes the antibiotics useless. It's actually it's more harmful
than good. But is it is it that it's a
real infection or more of an inflammation, you know, endocrine
(04:45):
type problem, which as you know with endocrine and minerals
and hormones, it's that that's a that's a really tight bond,
if you will, No, I.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Think it's a that's a good insight. The part that
a lot of people don't know about is that the
endocrine system and then so they're they're pumping out hormones.
Then we've got all sorts of neuropeptides in signaling peptides
and neurotransmitters, and they all need to be activated. And
(05:18):
every mechanism I know of to activate chemicals like that
require copper. So if you're down on copper, as most
people are, as most pets are, then you've lost a
major mechanism for keeping the organism in balance. And it's
just like, you know, we grew up with Sony Walkman's
(05:39):
that were back powered by batteries and when the battery
ran down, do we go to us a Walkman doctor
or did we just replace the battery? And in the
modern era, we're trained to go to a Walkman doctor.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, say that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
No, it's just what we don't know that all we
have to do is replace the copper in our diet
to get the system to start chiming again. That's that's
the long and the short of it. It's almost too simple,
but that's really what's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Right, Yeah, And you know, of course when we start,
when you start looking at that and how we have
to balance out the body, that all starts with detoxification, right,
and clean nutrition, clean nutrients that are actually a part
of what we should be eating, not what we've been
(06:28):
told by a pyramid. You know, it's upside down by
the way. But uh, you know, so when we're starting
out with with a number of issues that are creating this.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But I think that the unfortunate part of this bill
is that the days of clean food are gone that
oh I buy my food, it's all organic, and I
don't have to worry about it. It doesn't exist anymore,
I don't know. And they've they've dem lie both say
as a organic compound.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, isn't it amazing?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
No, it's it's I think it's it is an indication
of the times. That's how it's.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's it's actually hideous. It's it's you know, it's beyond explanation.
I mean in in my realm and in near realm
as well, that they would allow that same thing with
UH the appeal preservative now being even though it has
two chemicals that are completely banned in organic food after
you just approved it as organic. Yeah, for use an example. Actually,
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what they I think, how they're getting around with a
lot of around with a lot of this is they're
not calling an ingredient. They're actually saying, well, this is
just part of the processing of it. And that's how
they allow so much of it. It's it's you know,
playing games with the language.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It's it's unbelievable. It makes it makes no sense at all.
And so what I've got, what I've got behind me
is a chart that is from a wonderful article from
UH clinicians here in North Carolina on UTI and they
really drill into what causes the UTI. Now I'm looking
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at it looks like it's backwards. Is that right? Is
it showing up backwards?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
No, I can redefine.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
You see the word urine area. Then yeah, okay, all right,
So so what we've got here.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, I was gonna say, you can pull it in
a little bit closer. That that's a lot better. A
little bit of glare, little glare.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, how to cut that monitor?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, you're fine.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So I've got here is this is the bladder, and
then we have what are called it's called the eurohelium
and it's it's a layer of cells between the bladder,
and then you have urine right here, right, and so
these cells are protecting us. They're very smart cells or
(09:03):
epithelial cells that are in the in the urine air track.
And this little squiggly thing here, it's this is the E. Coli.
It's urine area. I've forgotten what the piece stands for,
but Asherisa Coli. That's the bacteria that causes ninety percent
(09:24):
of the infections. So that's the bad guy. And then
what we've got here is this tissue here has the
capacity to release copper, which is very important and it
can also manufacture seruloplasma, which is amazing. And for those
who have been following our conversations, they know that ceruloplasma, Yeah,
(09:49):
you're fine. The serulo plasma is the copper protein that
I think it's the brains of the outfit. To be honest,
I think it's a very very important part of our
anatomy that very few people know about. But here's the
most important part is that the copper and just the
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protein itself stop the E. Coli. But then it goes
one step farther. What Ceruloplasmi's gift to the world is
it's able to cycle and change the valance of iron.
What what the what the pathogen wants is plus two iron.
It's called ferrous iron. And what ceruloplasma does is it
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oxidizes that iron. It turns it into a plus three.
It takes away an electron and then the iron can't
be used by the pathogen and it can be put
back into circulation to help the iron recycling system. And
so we have three separate functions that are designed to
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kill the pathogen. And here's the catch this is this
is the genius of mother nature knowing how to use
copper and copper is the anti microbial element. It kills
all pathoges, fungus, virus, bacteria, and parasites. It doesn't care.
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Nobody was talking about that in twenty twenty because that
was very, very disruptive to the narrative. But the thing
is this capacity exists naturally in our body when we
have copper and retinol in our regular diet. Now, our
great grandparents had it a lot easier. It was much
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easier to find copper and retinol in the diet back
in the day. When you go back seventy five hundred
years ago, there wasn't we didn't have the competition with
ConAgra and all these big mega farming companies and food companies.
But here's where it gets really unsettling. And you mentioned
(11:58):
that when someone gets a urinary track infection, they get
an antibiotic. Well, what's the name of that antibiotic. There's
a there's a go to antibiotic that choose for almost
all urinary track infection. Do you know what it is?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Today? It keeps changing, Like on my side anyway, the
veterinary side, he keeps changing.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Okay, Well, on the human side, it's called CIP pro floxen.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yes shortened to cippro cipro.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And so the F in floxen means it's activated by fluoride.
Any drug that has an effinite any drug that has
an effinite means it's been activated with fluoride. Why is
that a problem, Because the fluoride keelates copper, So then
the cippro is locking the copper. It's destabilizing the ceruloplasmi
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and then it's it's using its own properties to kill
the pathogen. And you think, well, that's great, you got
the pathogen. But it's it's wiping out copper.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Status in humans and recurring, which.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Is why they're recurring. And people who take cipro very
often have tendonaires because the connective tissue in our body
is kept in a very strong and flexible state by
one enzyme called lyceeal oxidase. Ly cel oxidase is copper dependent,
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and what does cipro do It sucks the copper out
of lycele oxidase, so that people get tendentars, they get
a order ruptures, all sorts of problems that follow cipro.
And back in the day when we were up in Chicago,
doctor Liz had a client who is a world class
bicycler who used to hang out with a guy named
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Lance Armstrong and he got a UTI and he got cipro.
Guess what happened, eruptured his achilles tendon. Never to ride
a bike again. Life changing experience for this young man.
He was in his plate twenties, and so his whole
life was changed in an instant. And I appreciate the
(14:05):
chance to have this conversation with you because I think
this is a very common event. It's not understood in
the sense that there is a natural way to stop this,
and there's a very unnatural way to stop it, which
has profound secondary and tertiary effects on people's lives.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, you know that I use
a lot of different herbals and botanicals and things like that.
We actually do do waytile completely do a urinary blend
that seems to knock out UTIs in two to three days,
almost one hundred percent of the time. Well, of course,
what are we doing. We're feeding natural minerals through the herbs, right,
(14:48):
which is obviously carrying a fair amount of coppers in
a usable.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Forms, and it's allowing ceruoplasma to be made in the
animal's body and then you've got it. Yeah, and that's
that's beautiful, and that's as it should be. And the
challenge we face is I think over time, even those
sacred herbals are going to become less and less and
(15:15):
less potent as the impact of commercial farming takes over
the land on the planet.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah. Well, it's interesting because since you've been on last,
I think I've been on another tear. One of my
usual rants, and that when we really look at plant,
the plant based diets that we consume, and it's actually
that has put forth in it in modern agriculture and
of course the supermarket generation. Almost none of these vegetables
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existed two thousand years ago. They're all man made, so
they're not going to work the same way what you know, herbs,
at least herbs and most of the botanicals were here
two thousand years ago. They haven't been altered, so at
least we're starting out at a better, much better base,
if you will. And uh, you know, of course what
you mentioned too, with modern agricultural practices and uh, you know,
(16:11):
factory farming and uh, just a poor soil, you know,
using it as you know, depleting the soil and of
course in the chemtrails, the weather modification, all that stuff.
It's making it a much greater challenge for all of.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Us, Absolutely true. Yeah, And I think what people don't
I don't think they really grasp how much farming has
changed the availability of minerals in the food. No, and
it's just it's very discouraging to even think about much.
Let's talk about and yet that's our reality. It's just
another silent toxin that we have to put up with.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, and of course you know, as you know, of
course now is one of the other things that we're
being faced with. On the old side, of course, number one,
pharmaceutical companies are actually buying up a lot of the
good quality herbals that are out there crops and basically
burial so that they're not available. But on the other side,
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is herbals become more popular and prevalent in the in
use the demand is is basically taking what used to
be a maybe a hobby crop or a small farm
individual farm that was raising certain herbs and botanicals and
now taking commercializing that as well. On the same deplete soil,
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using the same fertilizers and in many cases using some
of the same pesticides and herbicides and fungicides and all
of that that we're seeing in other crops, and it's
making it much more difficult for us to control that.
I was listening to podcasts this morning on using natural
colors and how they use a lot of vegetable matter
(17:54):
and a lot of herbal products without and up to
in some some of the harvests, up to seventy five
percent of the harvests can't be used to make the
colors because of the heavy metal pollution that's actually in
the herb today. And you know that's you know which
is going to which is one of the things that
(18:15):
leads to these natural colors being a lot more expensive
because you're dumping half the crop or two thirds of
the crop, three quarters of the crop because it can't
be used in this type of operation. We're going to
be right back now after a quick break with more
great information.
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Speaker 2 (20:40):
Healthier and welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to
show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill
the Pet Health Guru, along with my special guests Morley Robbins.
We're talking about Copper and UTI's and a lot of
(21:04):
the things that are going to surround that. Again, we
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The chat room is open. If you're out there, go
ahead and throw your comments in, your questions in. We'll
be happy to try to try to answer whatever we can.
And during the break, I'm sitting there thinking as I'm
(21:26):
thinking about UTIs and One of the best things that
we can do, uh to help, of course is good water,
good clean ionized water, because you know it's got minerals
in it and then haven't been stripped out. And of
course if you take the floor ride out of it,
you know that that addresses part of what you mentioned, uh,
(21:49):
with the medication. But when we're talking about even gardens
and plants and growing your own stuff and the challenges
with that. If you're using city water, treated water in
a more urban area, suburban area, you're watering your plants
with fluorinated water, right, so that fluoride is actually in
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the plants themselves. And of course if you're buying the
when you're buying your vegetables, what are they using to
wash the vegetables to keep them moist in the store,
So that fluoride component is even bigger than we originally suspected, isn't.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It much bigger? Yeah? And you know, if they really
wanted to improve our health, they would stop that.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah. Well, here in Florida it has supposedly has stopped.
We'll see though.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I'll be impressed if it actually happened.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I know, Well, they have to use up all the
surplus that's there. I mean that was probably written into
the law too. You know, whatever we have, you let
us use it up, even though it's like a two
year supply. You know, that's the way government works.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
No, George is asking a fair question. Is there any
way to avoid these things? Yeah, but you've got to
leave a pretty pristine life. It's not easy to completely
detach yourself from modern society. And you've got a private
well that you can keep track of, so much the better.
If you've got land that you can grow your own
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food on, so much the better. The problem we've got
now is that lifosate is in the air. It's not
just being sprayed on commercial crop, it's it's everywhere, right,
and then there's all sorts of spraying taking place, you know,
around the world. We don't we don't know what they're using.
There's all sorts of speculation about that. So again we're
(23:37):
not trying to say there's a snake under every rock,
but there is a lot of stuff out there. What
we need to do is to get healthy. There's two
ways to get healthy. You've got to attack the guests.
This is the guest. These are guests. You got to
attack those guests. But you've got to strengthen the host.
And that's really what this chart is about. How do
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we strengthen our natural immune system to stave off these
types of events. And I think the the medical system
as we know it is solely focused on how to
attack guests. There's very little attention given to how do
we restore metabolism, energy production, immune function. And it's very straightforward.
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You've got to mineralize the body. You've got to bring
the nutrients back in and allow the body to do
what it does best. It knows once it's able to
make energy, it knows exactly what to do. Yes, allowing
that to.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Happen now, I mean you and I have had some
conversations about it, and you know, as far as supplementation
is concerned and stuff like that. You know, the problem
with most of the supplement companies out there are actually
run by or manufactured by the drug companies. Pharmaceutical companies.
A lot of garbage, a lot of toxic you know,
(24:57):
binders and anti cake agents and you know, lubri cans
and all this stuff that goes on the back side
of it. That number one negates the benefit that we
might be getting. But also when you're taking a straight supplement. Listen,
just copper. If it's not in the right form, if
it's not in a bioavailable form, you can literally throw
(25:18):
off everything else, can't you.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
And that's why you've got to be really thoughtful about
what you put in the body and make sure you're
aligning yourself with programs like the Root Cause Protocol that
have gone out of their way to deal with that
static and try to neutralize exposure to those types of additives.
It's a full time job, unfortunately. I mean the days
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of I'm taking it one a day and you've covered
all your bases that went out with the fifties, and yeah,
it's been a long time since we've had that kind
of latitude.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well in the fifties, I mean we were still eating
fairly clean food though too. That's a big big thing.
It was almost like one of the vitamins was, you know,
a set up to get us to take a whole
bunch more later on down the road, because they knew
what they were doing. Farmer companies, the chemical companies knew
what they were already going to be doing to our
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crops and our food supply. You know, they were already
doing extracts of everything, you know, between tearing apart the
milk and all the good benefits of it and all
of that and giving us some sort of chemical concoction
that they call milk instead of raw milk. I mean,
you know the same thing with meat. You know, all
meat used to be grass finished. Now, you know, to
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find grass finished meat is next to impossible. And even
when you do, they've manipulated the pastures with certain grasses,
and you know, you still don't know if it's pest
aside free, if it's actually actually you can't you almost
cannot get a certified organic pasture anymore, for no other
reason than weather modification and chemtrails.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, no, no, I guess it is not the best
we can and we bless the food that we eat
and just hope for the best.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, it's amazing that I find it's amazing that the
body and not just ours. I mean I'm talking about
all basically all animals and actually the most plant life
has adapted to a point, whether the storm, if you will,
just to stay alive, you know, I talk about you know,
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even like people that hunt and fish. You know, if
you hunted, you thought, you know, you got yourself a deer.
You know, I have clean meat, clean protein for you know,
a good portion of my at least the winter. But
today those deer around eating the GMO crops, you know,
and even if they're not, you know, and it's the
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area around it, even if they're eating the native vegetation
around it, that's still continus. The glory floss eight and
who knows what else. And you know, I just saw
that the e p A release that I used to
talk about the eighty thousand chemicals on the list is
now well over one hundred thousand. And you know, it's
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like you said, we have no way of knowing even
what what we're fighting. And you know, with my you know,
with what I do with herbals and botanicals, I mean,
I've gone to this, you know, my formulations on these
specific verbs are what we need to do. I'm going
to a greater variety, more diversity, because we have to
attack it from different ructions. And we don't really know
(28:31):
what we're attacking anymore. It's all, you know, we're you know,
shooting in the dark.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
But that's always been my observation about erbyls and botanicals
is we don't really know what is what they're doing?
We don't. We don't. We haven't been able to open
up the black box to say exactly what are they doing?
You know some of some of it, which is that's beautiful,
but it's also okay. You know. One thing that I
(28:56):
really harnessed myself to is what are the mechanisms of
action to improve energy production and immune function? I can,
I can cite chapter and verse all the different enzyme
pathways for many of them, and do all do those
erbyls work? I don't know. That's why I to go
after specific metriance the way that I do.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, And that's a good thing, because I don't look
at using herbals like as a medicine, if you will.
I know that I'm providing in that nutritional profile that
a number of different you know, sometimes literally you know,
dozens and dozens and dozens of different micronutrients, enzymes, uh,
and of course the minerals in a bioble available fashion,
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which is also the biggest problem. You know when we
see you see you know all the label said iron
well was it you know, are you chewing on a
rusty piece of steel or is it in a form
that you can actually use, you know, the copper the
same way. I mean, it's got to be. If it's
not usable, we're actually screwing up the System's.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Right, Yeah, how can I fight? And we don't know
the opponent. The opponent, the system that upon the deep
state is the opponent. And I think what you have
to do is find people like Bill, like myself who
are devoted to allowing the original factory settings of the organism,
(30:24):
the animals and the humans to regain their supremacy. And
it's very easy to get overwhelmed by the magnitude. You know,
there's a lot of things out there that we can
get really worked up about. Just focus on how you
can deal with your stress, how you can have a
very balanced diet. I tend to what I recommend typically
(30:47):
is just follow the Western eat price diet. They know
what they're talking about, and I think what you advocate
is very similar to that for the animals, and just
make sure that the key nutriants that run the metabolic
pathways and the immune pathways are being fed, and then
just get out of the way. And I think the
(31:09):
mistake that a lot of people make is they think
they have to over manage the situation. No, you just
have to be very selective about what you put in
your body and let the body do what it knows
how to do best well.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And you know one of the things, of course, you've
been in my store, and you know you've hurt me,
and we've been on the show together a lot. One
of the biggest things, not only with herbals and botanicals,
but just with food in general, is that diversity. You
have to vary that food as much as possible. Absolutely
in store, I talk about this a lot. You know,
I'm a carnivore type. I'd like a great steak. But
(31:45):
you know, when you look at at the good steaks,
you look at the filet, you look at the ribbi,
you look at the New York strip, they all taste different.
They're all different muscles, even though they're in the same
cluster together, they have different functions and be one of
the reasons it tastes different is they do have different nutrients.
So when you eat one one day and eat another
(32:07):
one another day, you just got something else that your
body maybe just like dying for actually and literally dying
for because it needed that nutrients. And by doing that diversity,
you're always getting a little bit extra of something again
in the bioavailable form right.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Absolutely, and it's just it's a day at a time,
and do it more and more. It becomes a way
of life and you don't have to worry about it
as much.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, exactly, We're gonna take another quick break here so
we have a good long last sessions.
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Speaker 2 (34:22):
Welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show where
your pet has a voice. This is build a Pet
Health Guru along with Morley Robbins, my mineral specialist. I
quote you a lot in the store. I usually as
a reference point all the time, pointing to your book.
It's like, you know, you know, we're we try to
stay on top of that and appreciate you know. It's
(34:44):
you know, when we're trying to talk to clients in
the store. Of course, you know, I've got a thousand
products in there, and it's so easy to miss one
or two or three. And I joke around with clients
a lot that you know, I wander around a little
bit because there's a there's a hunt of little gems
in there, and of course because all this stuff is
small and I use the analogy. You know, they're little
(35:06):
bottles in their little jars with little labels. It's not
like walking into Costco where you get one hundred inch
TV blasting in your face. You know, you have to
kind of do a little bit of looking and research
and that sort of thing. But going back to the
UTI thing, now, you explained how the function, how the
body functions very very well. How okay, in order for
(35:31):
that to happen in a healthy way, the body is
taking minerals from other quite often from other parts of
the body and has to move it around to be
able to defend itself. How does you know how does
that lack that deficiency of copper or that the fact
that it's bound and tied up. How does that affect
other functions and other parts of the system.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
That's a scary thought, to be honest, I mean I
put it into context. There was a world renowned metal
biologist at Florida State University and his name was Earl Freedan.
He was kind of the dean of metal biology on
the planet for about forty years. He was a major
(36:14):
major player. But he had a special interest in copper
and iron, and especially in this Seruloplasma thing, and he
wrote an article in nineteen seventy one that was very
very important. And there's a level of ceruloplasma and there's
an activity, so level would be like our height, activity
(36:37):
is our IQ. And just because someone is tall doesn't
mean they're smart, right, And so the blood testing that's
done today is all about height, nothing about IQ. And
what doctor Friedan was talking about in nineteen seventy one
is that let's say we have an ideal expression of
(36:58):
activity in you're not going to have anemia. There's no
way it can can happen. He said that when it
goes down to ten percent of ideal function, you still
will not have anemia. En percent of its capacity to
produce that enzyme function, it still won't let anemia happen.
(37:18):
If it goes down to one percent, you still get benefit.
But you're going to be beginning to see from science,
he said. And this is the punchline. He said, when
when ceruloplasmin has seven days of no enzyme expression, that's
when you get anemia. Now, why do we bring that
up Because twenty seven percent of the world thinks they
(37:41):
are an ema, which means that twenty seven percent of
the world probably doesn't have functioning seruloplasma. That's a really
scary thought. And so that protein is the chu choo
train for moving copper around the body, right, And if
it doesn't have enzyme expression, it's basically given newtered And
(38:05):
that's the dilemma is because we don't have we're not
given permission to measure the IQ of that protein. We
don't We're flying blind. We are literally unaware of the
dealing capacity of these amazing proteins and enzymes that reside
in our body. We're kept in the dark. And I
(38:27):
think you're asking a really fair and important question is
how do we impact stay on top of this? And
I think all we can do is is really lobby
to get access to this testing because I think it's
really tragical.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah, I mean blood tests today, I mean details almost
nothing in many cases once you get into some of
the very sophisticated s UF. But you know, I'm thinking, Okay,
So if I'm fighting this UTI and my body is
requesting through the whole endocrine system, I need more copper.
I need more copper. I need more copper to be
able to copper being the conductor of electricity. The two
(39:03):
most important organs are to most the two most important
bodies in the body that need energy electrical transmission is
a brain, not heart. So if I take it away
from either one of them, what's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
They're not going to work, right, And and Warren just said,
sounds like we're being handcuffed. And what are handcuffs made
of iron? Thrown out of steel? Right?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, not copper.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
And that's the tragedy, is that we are locked up metabolically,
not in our body because we can't regulate the iron.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
No, I think that's great. He's growing his own stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That, yeah, yeah, But I mean no, it's it's not.
And I mean, you know, we have to keep rebuilding
the soil. You have to keep on top of it.
We have to watch what you know, the drift from anybody,
anybody that's springing around it. And of course now we're
seeing at least more and more products, if you will,
and solutions to try to regenerate that soil, right, you know,
(40:06):
into a much more natural state. But I know, even
my challenge is down here in South Florida because you know,
most of the soil is sandy. You don't have very
much organic matter. You know, to even do a raised bed.
It's breaking down in the Florida sun in no time
at all. And you know the key, you know, you know,
(40:27):
I've had a raised bed for three years now and
I still can't stick a shovel in and pull out
enough earthworms to go fishing. It's just impossible, you know.
I remember as a kid up in up you know,
up in the western New York, if I was going fishing,
you know, you walked out, you turned on the sprinklers
for fifteen twenty minutes, you walked out with a flashlight,
(40:48):
and you could build a bucket full of worms in
like two minutes. But not anymore. And of course with
this whole thing too, I mean I'm seeing it on
the wildlife side too. I'm seeing let's or less butterflies,
less less everything, let's be the bee problem is becoming monumental.
And of course a lot of that's because the commercial
(41:10):
bee keepers are using a lot of high fruit toased
corn syrup to feed their bees. So what quality of
honey are you getting today? Unless you unless you know
your beekeeper, and things of that nature. It's it's really
really tough. But again it comes all the way down
to minerals, and I mean, you know, obviously you know,
(41:32):
good clean food of all types is especially good. They say,
we use a lot of herbals and botanicals. Like you said,
they're ancient, they still have not been corrupted. If you
will with you know the you know, man based changes
on it for yield and things of that nature. So
you're gonna get many more bioavailable minerals and things of that,
(41:54):
you know.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I think people need to know that you're an oasis.
You're you're voted to making sure people have access not
just for their pets, but for the owners as well. Right, Yeah,
the r cps and other always there are, there are
a series of oases out there. You just have to
be very selective about where you get your support and
(42:17):
make sure you understand how the game is played. And
the goal of the or of organized food and medicine
is not to keep you healthy, because there's no money
in a healthy human. No, So you've got it, you've.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Got it if you sell healthy food. That's what money is.
But you know medicine, and you know there's no health
in medicine. No, you know, it's unfortunately where we stand
at the end of the show, as always goes by
very very quickly. How can people reach you and how
can we help them get healthier?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
They can rence me through the website r c P
one two three dot org. We are on every conceivable
social media platform and welcome your active participation. We have
a community called the RCP Community or the Premium Community.
(43:13):
It's a whopping ten dollars a month, but you get
two visits of a month with me to ask questions
and have conversations, and we've got quite a robust community
that does that. We have a training program, it's called
the RCP Institute, and those who really want to take
a deeper dive happy to do that and happy to
be a part of that training. We just started. The
(43:34):
first class was today. It was very very exciting Class
twenty two. And then the second edition of my book
is coming out in November, and it's coming down the chute.
All the you know, the all the edits have been made,
the design of the book is done. It's just it's
amazing to see it come to life like that. And
that'll come out on November eleventh, and so we'll have
(43:56):
to do a in store, so that'll be a lot
of fun to be down there. Yeah, a lot nicer
than right now. I think it'd be a little hot
to be down your way.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, it's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
And then for the for the people who really want
to reach out to me personally, my email address is
my first and last name at gmail dot com. And
for the brazen few that want to talk to me,
my cell phone is eight four seven nine to two
eight zero six one. Happy to answer your questions and
look forward to our contact and that takes place all.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Right, Morley, as always as a pleasure to have you,
I thank you, thank you, thank you very much. And
for all of those that we're watching tonight and those
that are watching in the future, you know, I hope
you gained a lot of insight through this and we'll
be back again in another week with another episode of
the Pet Health Cafe. Good night, folks.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Thanks.
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Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,
Bill the Pet Health Guru, And.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your
Pet Has a Voice. This is Bill, Pet Health Guru,
and I've got another exciting show for you tonight. We're
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a lot. And with that being said, tackling today a
problem that seems to be a bigger health issue than
is really out there stated in the general public. But
we see a lot of it built in our pets
and in our human population. And if any of you
saw the lead in, yes, it's a show on urinary
(01:50):
trek infections and with me tonight is going to be
my special guest, Morley Robbins. How you doing? You made
it okay now, Morley, But.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I realized what I was doing wrong. I forgot to
allow myself to get into the system. So yeah, everything
was fine.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I was yelling, plug the computer in. Plugged.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
The problem was plugged the human in.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I know, plug the human in. Plut the human in.
So how you doing? You got back from your your
little whorl Win worldwide trip.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
We had a very successful trip to France and England
and that was a lot of fun, a lot of work,
but it was also a lot of fun. Good And
then we're going to be down in another foreign country Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh yes, oh you were down there? And did you
stop in and see a good friend our engineer and producer.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
No, she's going to be mad at me because I was.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Now I'm going to tell her on the last show,
I started to let her jump in here when she
wants to make comments, so you might be in trouble.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I was late here and I didn't tell where I
was coming.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So anyway, as I mentioned, were you know you you
send me a note said, uh, you've got some information
on UTIs, and I think in the in the very
beginning here, uh, you know you're urinary track infections. My
first question is is it really an infection?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Often? Okay, it's a real deal, and I think it's
each year. I mean, the numbers are really staggering. Two
hundred million Americans have some form of kidney issue during
the course of the year. It's it's two it's almost
two thirds of the country. It's just like, yeah, wow, number,
(03:47):
the numbers are mind boggling. I've forgotten how many people
get just UTIs, but it's a very big number. I
don't know what what the incidence is in the well,
but I would imagine it does exist in a surely
prominent way as well.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well. Actually it's it's it's a commonly diagnosed issue. But
the reason I ask that question right at the very beginning,
Is it really an infection? Is because generally speaking, when
they do cultures on urine with when they diagnose UTIs,
(04:23):
and of course after they've prescribed a ton of antibiotics, uh,
there's no you know, there's there's no uh, bacterial infection,
which makes the antibiotics useless. It's actually it's more harmful
than good. But is it is it that it's a
real infection or more of an inflammation, you know, endocrine
(04:45):
type problem, which as you know with endocrine and minerals
and hormones, it's that that's a that's a really tight bond,
if you will, No, I.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Think it's a that's a good insight. The part that
a lot of people don't know about is that the
endocrine system and then so they're they're pumping out hormones.
Then we've got all sorts of neuropeptides in signaling peptides
and neurotransmitters, and they all need to be activated. And
(05:18):
every mechanism I know of to activate chemicals like that
require copper. So if you're down on copper, as most
people are, as most pets are, then you've lost a
major mechanism for keeping the organism in balance. And it's
just like, you know, we grew up with Sony Walkman's
(05:39):
that were back powered by batteries and when the battery
ran down, do we go to us a Walkman doctor
or did we just replace the battery? And in the
modern era, we're trained to go to a Walkman doctor.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, say that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
No, it's just what we don't know that all we
have to do is replace the copper in our diet
to get the system to start chiming again. That's that's
the long and the short of it. It's almost too simple,
but that's really what's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Right, Yeah, And you know, of course when we start,
when you start looking at that and how we have
to balance out the body, that all starts with detoxification, right,
and clean nutrition, clean nutrients that are actually a part
of what we should be eating, not what we've been
(06:28):
told by a pyramid. You know, it's upside down by
the way. But uh, you know, so when we're starting
out with with a number of issues that are creating this.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But I think that the unfortunate part of this bill
is that the days of clean food are gone that
oh I buy my food, it's all organic, and I
don't have to worry about it. It doesn't exist anymore,
I don't know. And they've they've dem lie both say
as a organic compound.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, isn't it amazing?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
No, it's it's I think it's it is an indication
of the times. That's how it's.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's it's actually hideous. It's it's you know, it's beyond explanation.
I mean in in my realm and in near realm
as well, that they would allow that same thing with
UH the appeal preservative now being even though it has
two chemicals that are completely banned in organic food after
you just approved it as organic. Yeah, for use an example. Actually,
(07:35):
what they I think, how they're getting around with a
lot of around with a lot of this is they're
not calling an ingredient. They're actually saying, well, this is
just part of the processing of it. And that's how
they allow so much of it. It's it's you know,
playing games with the language.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It's it's unbelievable. It makes it makes no sense at all.
And so what I've got, what I've got behind me
is a chart that is from a wonderful article from
UH clinicians here in North Carolina on UTI and they
really drill into what causes the UTI. Now I'm looking
(08:13):
at it looks like it's backwards. Is that right? Is
it showing up backwards?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
No, I can redefine.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
You see the word urine area. Then yeah, okay, all right,
So so what we've got here.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, I was gonna say, you can pull it in
a little bit closer. That that's a lot better. A
little bit of glare, little glare.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, how to cut that monitor?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, you're fine.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So I've got here is this is the bladder, and
then we have what are called it's called the eurohelium
and it's it's a layer of cells between the bladder,
and then you have urine right here, right, and so
these cells are protecting us. They're very smart cells or
(09:03):
epithelial cells that are in the in the urine air track.
And this little squiggly thing here, it's this is the E. Coli.
It's urine area. I've forgotten what the piece stands for,
but Asherisa Coli. That's the bacteria that causes ninety percent
(09:24):
of the infections. So that's the bad guy. And then
what we've got here is this tissue here has the
capacity to release copper, which is very important and it
can also manufacture seruloplasma, which is amazing. And for those
who have been following our conversations, they know that ceruloplasma, Yeah,
(09:49):
you're fine. The serulo plasma is the copper protein that
I think it's the brains of the outfit. To be honest,
I think it's a very very important part of our
anatomy that very few people know about. But here's the
most important part is that the copper and just the
(10:10):
protein itself stop the E. Coli. But then it goes
one step farther. What Ceruloplasmi's gift to the world is
it's able to cycle and change the valance of iron.
What what the what the pathogen wants is plus two iron.
It's called ferrous iron. And what ceruloplasma does is it
(10:33):
oxidizes that iron. It turns it into a plus three.
It takes away an electron and then the iron can't
be used by the pathogen and it can be put
back into circulation to help the iron recycling system. And
so we have three separate functions that are designed to
(10:55):
kill the pathogen. And here's the catch this is this
is the genius of mother nature knowing how to use
copper and copper is the anti microbial element. It kills
all pathoges, fungus, virus, bacteria, and parasites. It doesn't care.
(11:15):
Nobody was talking about that in twenty twenty because that
was very, very disruptive to the narrative. But the thing
is this capacity exists naturally in our body when we
have copper and retinol in our regular diet. Now, our
great grandparents had it a lot easier. It was much
(11:37):
easier to find copper and retinol in the diet back
in the day. When you go back seventy five hundred
years ago, there wasn't we didn't have the competition with
ConAgra and all these big mega farming companies and food companies.
But here's where it gets really unsettling. And you mentioned
(11:58):
that when someone gets a urinary track infection, they get
an antibiotic. Well, what's the name of that antibiotic. There's
a there's a go to antibiotic that choose for almost
all urinary track infection. Do you know what it is?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Today? It keeps changing, Like on my side anyway, the
veterinary side, he keeps changing.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Okay, Well, on the human side, it's called CIP pro floxen.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yes shortened to cippro cipro.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And so the F in floxen means it's activated by fluoride.
Any drug that has an effinite any drug that has
an effinite means it's been activated with fluoride. Why is
that a problem, Because the fluoride keelates copper, So then
the cippro is locking the copper. It's destabilizing the ceruloplasmi
(12:45):
and then it's it's using its own properties to kill
the pathogen. And you think, well, that's great, you got
the pathogen. But it's it's wiping out copper.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Status in humans and recurring, which.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Is why they're recurring. And people who take cipro very
often have tendonaires because the connective tissue in our body
is kept in a very strong and flexible state by
one enzyme called lyceeal oxidase. Ly cel oxidase is copper dependent,
(13:20):
and what does cipro do It sucks the copper out
of lycele oxidase, so that people get tendentars, they get
a order ruptures, all sorts of problems that follow cipro.
And back in the day when we were up in Chicago,
doctor Liz had a client who is a world class
bicycler who used to hang out with a guy named
(13:43):
Lance Armstrong and he got a UTI and he got cipro.
Guess what happened, eruptured his achilles tendon. Never to ride
a bike again. Life changing experience for this young man.
He was in his plate twenties, and so his whole
life was changed in an instant. And I appreciate the
(14:05):
chance to have this conversation with you because I think
this is a very common event. It's not understood in
the sense that there is a natural way to stop this,
and there's a very unnatural way to stop it, which
has profound secondary and tertiary effects on people's lives.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, you know that I use
a lot of different herbals and botanicals and things like that.
We actually do do waytile completely do a urinary blend
that seems to knock out UTIs in two to three days,
almost one hundred percent of the time. Well, of course,
what are we doing. We're feeding natural minerals through the herbs, right,
(14:48):
which is obviously carrying a fair amount of coppers in
a usable.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Forms, and it's allowing ceruoplasma to be made in the
animal's body and then you've got it. Yeah, and that's
that's beautiful, and that's as it should be. And the
challenge we face is I think over time, even those
sacred herbals are going to become less and less and
(15:15):
less potent as the impact of commercial farming takes over
the land on the planet.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah. Well, it's interesting because since you've been on last,
I think I've been on another tear. One of my
usual rants, and that when we really look at plant,
the plant based diets that we consume, and it's actually
that has put forth in it in modern agriculture and
of course the supermarket generation. Almost none of these vegetables
(15:47):
existed two thousand years ago. They're all man made, so
they're not going to work the same way what you know, herbs,
at least herbs and most of the botanicals were here
two thousand years ago. They haven't been altered, so at
least we're starting out at a better, much better base,
if you will. And uh, you know, of course what
you mentioned too, with modern agricultural practices and uh, you know,
(16:11):
factory farming and uh, just a poor soil, you know,
using it as you know, depleting the soil and of
course in the chemtrails, the weather modification, all that stuff.
It's making it a much greater challenge for all of.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Us, Absolutely true. Yeah, And I think what people don't
I don't think they really grasp how much farming has
changed the availability of minerals in the food. No, and
it's just it's very discouraging to even think about much.
Let's talk about and yet that's our reality. It's just
another silent toxin that we have to put up with.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, and of course you know, as you know, of
course now is one of the other things that we're
being faced with. On the old side, of course, number one,
pharmaceutical companies are actually buying up a lot of the
good quality herbals that are out there crops and basically
burial so that they're not available. But on the other side,
(17:08):
is herbals become more popular and prevalent in the in
use the demand is is basically taking what used to
be a maybe a hobby crop or a small farm
individual farm that was raising certain herbs and botanicals and
now taking commercializing that as well. On the same deplete soil,
(17:32):
using the same fertilizers and in many cases using some
of the same pesticides and herbicides and fungicides and all
of that that we're seeing in other crops, and it's
making it much more difficult for us to control that.
I was listening to podcasts this morning on using natural
colors and how they use a lot of vegetable matter
(17:54):
and a lot of herbal products without and up to
in some some of the harvests, up to seventy five
percent of the harvests can't be used to make the
colors because of the heavy metal pollution that's actually in
the herb today. And you know that's you know which
is going to which is one of the things that
(18:15):
leads to these natural colors being a lot more expensive
because you're dumping half the crop or two thirds of
the crop, three quarters of the crop because it can't
be used in this type of operation. We're going to
be right back now after a quick break with more
great information.
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Healthier and welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to
show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill
the Pet Health Guru, along with my special guests Morley Robbins.
We're talking about Copper and UTI's and a lot of
(21:04):
the things that are going to surround that. Again, we
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The chat room is open. If you're out there, go
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be happy to try to try to answer whatever we can.
And during the break, I'm sitting there thinking as I'm
(21:26):
thinking about UTIs and One of the best things that
we can do, uh to help, of course is good water,
good clean ionized water, because you know it's got minerals
in it and then haven't been stripped out. And of
course if you take the floor ride out of it,
you know that that addresses part of what you mentioned, uh,
(21:49):
with the medication. But when we're talking about even gardens
and plants and growing your own stuff and the challenges
with that. If you're using city water, treated water in
a more urban area, suburban area, you're watering your plants
with fluorinated water, right, so that fluoride is actually in
(22:10):
the plants themselves. And of course if you're buying the
when you're buying your vegetables, what are they using to
wash the vegetables to keep them moist in the store,
So that fluoride component is even bigger than we originally suspected, isn't.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It much bigger? Yeah? And you know, if they really
wanted to improve our health, they would stop that.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah. Well, here in Florida it has supposedly has stopped.
We'll see though.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I'll be impressed if it actually happened.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I know, Well, they have to use up all the
surplus that's there. I mean that was probably written into
the law too. You know, whatever we have, you let
us use it up, even though it's like a two
year supply. You know, that's the way government works.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
No, George is asking a fair question. Is there any
way to avoid these things? Yeah, but you've got to
leave a pretty pristine life. It's not easy to completely
detach yourself from modern society. And you've got a private
well that you can keep track of, so much the better.
If you've got land that you can grow your own
(23:15):
food on, so much the better. The problem we've got
now is that lifosate is in the air. It's not
just being sprayed on commercial crop, it's it's everywhere, right,
and then there's all sorts of spraying taking place, you know,
around the world. We don't we don't know what they're using.
There's all sorts of speculation about that. So again we're
(23:37):
not trying to say there's a snake under every rock,
but there is a lot of stuff out there. What
we need to do is to get healthy. There's two
ways to get healthy. You've got to attack the guests.
This is the guest. These are guests. You got to
attack those guests. But you've got to strengthen the host.
And that's really what this chart is about. How do
(23:58):
we strengthen our natural immune system to stave off these
types of events. And I think the the medical system
as we know it is solely focused on how to
attack guests. There's very little attention given to how do
we restore metabolism, energy production, immune function. And it's very straightforward.
(24:23):
You've got to mineralize the body. You've got to bring
the nutrients back in and allow the body to do
what it does best. It knows once it's able to
make energy, it knows exactly what to do. Yes, allowing
that to.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Happen now, I mean you and I have had some
conversations about it, and you know, as far as supplementation
is concerned and stuff like that. You know, the problem
with most of the supplement companies out there are actually
run by or manufactured by the drug companies. Pharmaceutical companies.
A lot of garbage, a lot of toxic you know,
(24:57):
binders and anti cake agents and you know, lubri cans
and all this stuff that goes on the back side
of it. That number one negates the benefit that we
might be getting. But also when you're taking a straight supplement. Listen,
just copper. If it's not in the right form, if
it's not in a bioavailable form, you can literally throw
(25:18):
off everything else, can't you.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
And that's why you've got to be really thoughtful about
what you put in the body and make sure you're
aligning yourself with programs like the Root Cause Protocol that
have gone out of their way to deal with that
static and try to neutralize exposure to those types of additives.
It's a full time job, unfortunately. I mean the days
(25:44):
of I'm taking it one a day and you've covered
all your bases that went out with the fifties, and yeah,
it's been a long time since we've had that kind
of latitude.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well in the fifties, I mean we were still eating
fairly clean food though too. That's a big big thing.
It was almost like one of the vitamins was, you know,
a set up to get us to take a whole
bunch more later on down the road, because they knew
what they were doing. Farmer companies, the chemical companies knew
what they were already going to be doing to our
(26:14):
crops and our food supply. You know, they were already
doing extracts of everything, you know, between tearing apart the
milk and all the good benefits of it and all
of that and giving us some sort of chemical concoction
that they call milk instead of raw milk. I mean,
you know the same thing with meat. You know, all
meat used to be grass finished. Now, you know, to
(26:36):
find grass finished meat is next to impossible. And even
when you do, they've manipulated the pastures with certain grasses,
and you know, you still don't know if it's pest
aside free, if it's actually actually you can't you almost
cannot get a certified organic pasture anymore, for no other
reason than weather modification and chemtrails.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, no, no, I guess it is not the best
we can and we bless the food that we eat
and just hope for the best.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, it's amazing that I find it's amazing that the
body and not just ours. I mean I'm talking about
all basically all animals and actually the most plant life
has adapted to a point, whether the storm, if you will,
just to stay alive, you know, I talk about you know,
(27:26):
even like people that hunt and fish. You know, if
you hunted, you thought, you know, you got yourself a deer.
You know, I have clean meat, clean protein for you know,
a good portion of my at least the winter. But
today those deer around eating the GMO crops, you know,
and even if they're not, you know, and it's the
(27:47):
area around it, even if they're eating the native vegetation
around it, that's still continus. The glory floss eight and
who knows what else. And you know, I just saw
that the e p A release that I used to
talk about the eighty thousand chemicals on the list is
now well over one hundred thousand. And you know, it's
(28:09):
like you said, we have no way of knowing even
what what we're fighting. And you know, with my you know,
with what I do with herbals and botanicals, I mean,
I've gone to this, you know, my formulations on these
specific verbs are what we need to do. I'm going
to a greater variety, more diversity, because we have to
attack it from different ructions. And we don't really know
(28:31):
what we're attacking anymore. It's all, you know, we're you know,
shooting in the dark.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
But that's always been my observation about erbyls and botanicals
is we don't really know what is what they're doing?
We don't. We don't. We haven't been able to open
up the black box to say exactly what are they doing?
You know some of some of it, which is that's beautiful,
but it's also okay. You know. One thing that I
(28:56):
really harnessed myself to is what are the mechanisms of
action to improve energy production and immune function? I can,
I can cite chapter and verse all the different enzyme
pathways for many of them, and do all do those
erbyls work? I don't know. That's why I to go
after specific metriance the way that I do.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, And that's a good thing, because I don't look
at using herbals like as a medicine, if you will.
I know that I'm providing in that nutritional profile that
a number of different you know, sometimes literally you know,
dozens and dozens and dozens of different micronutrients, enzymes, uh,
and of course the minerals in a bioble available fashion,
(29:40):
which is also the biggest problem. You know when we
see you see you know all the label said iron
well was it you know, are you chewing on a
rusty piece of steel or is it in a form
that you can actually use, you know, the copper the
same way. I mean, it's got to be. If it's
not usable, we're actually screwing up the System's.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Right, Yeah, how can I fight? And we don't know
the opponent. The opponent, the system that upon the deep
state is the opponent. And I think what you have
to do is find people like Bill, like myself who
are devoted to allowing the original factory settings of the organism,
(30:24):
the animals and the humans to regain their supremacy. And
it's very easy to get overwhelmed by the magnitude. You know,
there's a lot of things out there that we can
get really worked up about. Just focus on how you
can deal with your stress, how you can have a
very balanced diet. I tend to what I recommend typically
(30:47):
is just follow the Western eat price diet. They know
what they're talking about, and I think what you advocate
is very similar to that for the animals, and just
make sure that the key nutriants that run the metabolic
pathways and the immune pathways are being fed, and then
just get out of the way. And I think the
(31:09):
mistake that a lot of people make is they think
they have to over manage the situation. No, you just
have to be very selective about what you put in
your body and let the body do what it knows
how to do best well.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And you know one of the things, of course, you've
been in my store, and you know you've hurt me,
and we've been on the show together a lot. One
of the biggest things, not only with herbals and botanicals,
but just with food in general, is that diversity. You
have to vary that food as much as possible. Absolutely
in store, I talk about this a lot. You know,
I'm a carnivore type. I'd like a great steak. But
(31:45):
you know, when you look at at the good steaks,
you look at the filet, you look at the ribbi,
you look at the New York strip, they all taste different.
They're all different muscles, even though they're in the same
cluster together, they have different functions and be one of
the reasons it tastes different is they do have different nutrients.
So when you eat one one day and eat another
(32:07):
one another day, you just got something else that your
body maybe just like dying for actually and literally dying
for because it needed that nutrients. And by doing that diversity,
you're always getting a little bit extra of something again
in the bioavailable form right.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Absolutely, and it's just it's a day at a time,
and do it more and more. It becomes a way
of life and you don't have to worry about it
as much.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, exactly, We're gonna take another quick break here so
we have a good long last sessions.
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Speaker 2 (34:22):
Welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show where
your pet has a voice. This is build a Pet
Health Guru along with Morley Robbins, my mineral specialist. I
quote you a lot in the store. I usually as
a reference point all the time, pointing to your book.
It's like, you know, you know, we're we try to
stay on top of that and appreciate you know. It's
(34:44):
you know, when we're trying to talk to clients in
the store. Of course, you know, I've got a thousand
products in there, and it's so easy to miss one
or two or three. And I joke around with clients
a lot that you know, I wander around a little
bit because there's a there's a hunt of little gems
in there, and of course because all this stuff is
small and I use the analogy. You know, they're little
(35:06):
bottles in their little jars with little labels. It's not
like walking into Costco where you get one hundred inch
TV blasting in your face. You know, you have to
kind of do a little bit of looking and research
and that sort of thing. But going back to the
UTI thing, now, you explained how the function, how the
body functions very very well. How okay, in order for
(35:31):
that to happen in a healthy way, the body is
taking minerals from other quite often from other parts of
the body and has to move it around to be
able to defend itself. How does you know how does
that lack that deficiency of copper or that the fact
that it's bound and tied up. How does that affect
other functions and other parts of the system.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
That's a scary thought, to be honest, I mean I
put it into context. There was a world renowned metal
biologist at Florida State University and his name was Earl Freedan.
He was kind of the dean of metal biology on
the planet for about forty years. He was a major
(36:14):
major player. But he had a special interest in copper
and iron, and especially in this Seruloplasma thing, and he
wrote an article in nineteen seventy one that was very
very important. And there's a level of ceruloplasma and there's
an activity, so level would be like our height, activity
(36:37):
is our IQ. And just because someone is tall doesn't
mean they're smart, right, And so the blood testing that's
done today is all about height, nothing about IQ. And
what doctor Friedan was talking about in nineteen seventy one
is that let's say we have an ideal expression of
(36:58):
activity in you're not going to have anemia. There's no
way it can can happen. He said that when it
goes down to ten percent of ideal function, you still
will not have anemia. En percent of its capacity to
produce that enzyme function, it still won't let anemia happen.
(37:18):
If it goes down to one percent, you still get benefit.
But you're going to be beginning to see from science,
he said. And this is the punchline. He said, when
when ceruloplasmin has seven days of no enzyme expression, that's
when you get anemia. Now, why do we bring that
up Because twenty seven percent of the world thinks they
(37:41):
are an ema, which means that twenty seven percent of
the world probably doesn't have functioning seruloplasma. That's a really
scary thought. And so that protein is the chu choo
train for moving copper around the body, right, And if
it doesn't have enzyme expression, it's basically given newtered And
(38:05):
that's the dilemma is because we don't have we're not
given permission to measure the IQ of that protein. We
don't We're flying blind. We are literally unaware of the
dealing capacity of these amazing proteins and enzymes that reside
in our body. We're kept in the dark. And I
(38:27):
think you're asking a really fair and important question is
how do we impact stay on top of this? And
I think all we can do is is really lobby
to get access to this testing because I think it's
really tragical.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah, I mean blood tests today, I mean details almost
nothing in many cases once you get into some of
the very sophisticated s UF. But you know, I'm thinking, Okay,
So if I'm fighting this UTI and my body is
requesting through the whole endocrine system, I need more copper.
I need more copper. I need more copper to be
able to copper being the conductor of electricity. The two
(39:03):
most important organs are to most the two most important
bodies in the body that need energy electrical transmission is
a brain, not heart. So if I take it away
from either one of them, what's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
They're not going to work, right, And and Warren just said,
sounds like we're being handcuffed. And what are handcuffs made
of iron? Thrown out of steel? Right?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, not copper.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
And that's the tragedy, is that we are locked up metabolically,
not in our body because we can't regulate the iron.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
No, I think that's great. He's growing his own stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That, yeah, yeah, But I mean no, it's it's not.
And I mean, you know, we have to keep rebuilding
the soil. You have to keep on top of it.
We have to watch what you know, the drift from anybody,
anybody that's springing around it. And of course now we're
seeing at least more and more products, if you will,
and solutions to try to regenerate that soil, right, you know,
(40:06):
into a much more natural state. But I know, even
my challenge is down here in South Florida because you know,
most of the soil is sandy. You don't have very
much organic matter. You know, to even do a raised bed.
It's breaking down in the Florida sun in no time
at all. And you know the key, you know, you know,
(40:27):
I've had a raised bed for three years now and
I still can't stick a shovel in and pull out
enough earthworms to go fishing. It's just impossible, you know.
I remember as a kid up in up you know,
up in the western New York, if I was going fishing,
you know, you walked out, you turned on the sprinklers
for fifteen twenty minutes, you walked out with a flashlight,
(40:48):
and you could build a bucket full of worms in
like two minutes. But not anymore. And of course with
this whole thing too, I mean I'm seeing it on
the wildlife side too. I'm seeing let's or less butterflies,
less less everything, let's be the bee problem is becoming monumental.
And of course a lot of that's because the commercial
(41:10):
bee keepers are using a lot of high fruit toased
corn syrup to feed their bees. So what quality of
honey are you getting today? Unless you unless you know
your beekeeper, and things of that nature. It's it's really
really tough. But again it comes all the way down
to minerals, and I mean, you know, obviously you know,
(41:32):
good clean food of all types is especially good. They say,
we use a lot of herbals and botanicals. Like you said,
they're ancient, they still have not been corrupted. If you
will with you know the you know, man based changes
on it for yield and things of that nature. So
you're gonna get many more bioavailable minerals and things of that,
(41:54):
you know.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I think people need to know that you're an oasis.
You're you're voted to making sure people have access not
just for their pets, but for the owners as well. Right, Yeah,
the r cps and other always there are, there are
a series of oases out there. You just have to
be very selective about where you get your support and
(42:17):
make sure you understand how the game is played. And
the goal of the or of organized food and medicine
is not to keep you healthy, because there's no money
in a healthy human. No, So you've got it, you've.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Got it if you sell healthy food. That's what money is.
But you know medicine, and you know there's no health
in medicine. No, you know, it's unfortunately where we stand
at the end of the show, as always goes by
very very quickly. How can people reach you and how
can we help them get healthier?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
They can rence me through the website r c P
one two three dot org. We are on every conceivable
social media platform and welcome your active participation. We have
a community called the RCP Community or the Premium Community.
(43:13):
It's a whopping ten dollars a month, but you get
two visits of a month with me to ask questions
and have conversations, and we've got quite a robust community
that does that. We have a training program, it's called
the RCP Institute, and those who really want to take
a deeper dive happy to do that and happy to
be a part of that training. We just started. The
(43:34):
first class was today. It was very very exciting Class
twenty two. And then the second edition of my book
is coming out in November, and it's coming down the chute.
All the you know, the all the edits have been made,
the design of the book is done. It's just it's
amazing to see it come to life like that. And
that'll come out on November eleventh, and so we'll have
(43:56):
to do a in store, so that'll be a lot
of fun to be down there. Yeah, a lot nicer
than right now. I think it'd be a little hot
to be down your way.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, it's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
And then for the for the people who really want
to reach out to me personally, my email address is
my first and last name at gmail dot com. And
for the brazen few that want to talk to me,
my cell phone is eight four seven nine to two
eight zero six one. Happy to answer your questions and
look forward to our contact and that takes place all.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Right, Morley, as always as a pleasure to have you,
I thank you, thank you, thank you very much. And
for all of those that we're watching tonight and those
that are watching in the future, you know, I hope
you gained a lot of insight through this and we'll
be back again in another week with another episode of
the Pet Health Cafe. Good night, folks.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Thanks.
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