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December 11, 2024 53 mins
Design Thinking is all the buzz when it comes to designing our products (or more appropriately, the solutions we discover to solve real problems). But does it stop there?Our guest on the episode makes a very convincing case for what he calls Experience Thinking.

On this episode, Matt and Moshe met with Tedde van Gelderen, President of Akendi, a premier UX agency specializing in creating holistic, end-to-end experiences that enhance their clients’ products and delight users. Tedde authored the book “Experience Thinking: Creating Connected Experiences”, in which he explains the importance of going beyond just product design or service design, and focusing on the holistic approach of experience design.

In his own words, “Experience Thinking" starts with the holistic experience customers and users have with an organisation over time, then guides the enabling technologies and content to create intentional experiences. Experience Thinking should become deeply rooted in an organisation's creation processes.”Join us as we explore with Tedde:
  • His background in psychology, and how it led him to design experiences, and to found his own UX consultancy
  • Where do products fit in in the holistic approach of experiences 
  • Where do we start with experience design? 
  • The role of Design Thinking in the context of Experience Thinking
  • The missing process for service designers
  • The 4 areas of Experience Design: Brand Design, Product Design, Content Design and Service Design
  • The importance of Brand Design on both product and service, and how some organizations ignore it
  • Who should own the Experience Design (hint: it might be the Product people)
  • Designing the experience that the users will be part of and not just the GTM
  • Where we can learn and get inspiration for experiences, and how do apply it to the experiences we need to design
  • The state of the industry and the adoption Experience Design/Thinking
  • How can Product Managers start applying Experience Thinking within their organization and stakeholders 
  • And much much more…

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