S8 E20 - 50 Years of Metal Detecting with Bill Hayes on Relics Radio - Relics Radio show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, well, I guess that means I need to put
my glasses on right if we're going to start the show.
We are professionals. Hey everyone, DK here from Adventures and Dirt.
Welcome to Relics Radio Thursday night with you all joining
us those of you listening later on the audio podcast.
We want to welcome you. We see you out there.
Make sure you're dropping us a line. We see the numbers,

(00:23):
we know you're still there, so thanks. I know when
we switched over to the video portion sometimes it was
a little bit of a challenge because you can't see
what we're seeing. But I invite you to come over
and check out fifty to eighty Adventures to check out
the video portion of Relics Radio. But you can always
catch our audio on the replay the following day. So
I'm gonna bring on my co host, the co host

(00:44):
with the most You know him as mister fifty two
eighty adventures. Cheers, brother, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
That's right. Hey. You know, just a reminder, this is
Wednesday night, not Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
What did I say Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
We've been doing Thursday nights for I don't know how
many years, and we switched it to Wednesdays, and I
can't get used to it either Thursday night. That's fine.
O good, it's we're professionals here.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Come on, total professionals.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
All right, cod let's start over. We can't we can't
do that. Hang on, We're gonna start over. It's got
to be Grandma.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'm just getting old. I think that's what I'm starting
to get old.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's so good. We got a really good show tonight.
I am this is like a long time in coming
here for us to be able to have Bill Hayes
on as a guest. And how long have we been.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Talking about it. We've been talking about it forever.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah. Yeah, And finally he agreed to it. We held
him to it. He actually accepted the invitation. We held
him to do it. I don't know if that's a
good thing or a bad thing. You might. We'll see.
It's gonna be a great, great show. We had lots
of positive reaction when we posted the links out on
social media. People are like, oh, yeah, Bill's fantastic. So

(02:16):
if you guys are joining us right now, stick around
because Bill's We've got some stories. I mean, Ohio boys,
you know, we may dump you and may just make
youile boy podcasts and.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I Ohio Relics Radio. Shoot. I was just thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
What we're gonna say.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I don't know. I'm getting old. Oh did you all
I forgot? Did you in the show prep with Bill?
Did you did you get him to choose a song
you're going to have him sing tonight?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
No? No, actually yeah, he said he said he was
going to sing Yankee Doodle Dandy because he originally wrote
that the.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Rap version, the rap version or the we're.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Giving him the business and he's down in the green room.
He can't even reply back to us. He's not fair.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Come on now, Yeah, I'm looking forward to talking to Bill.
It's good to have him here with us tonight. Who's
joining tonight? Well, we had flash in the pan. Hey, Ed,
Ed's joining us, and then we got this guy here.
Huh Ohio relevant there. We're gonna talk about you tonight, buddy.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, he skated on us. He had an invitation
as well. How about detect SD Hey, we're gonna see yeah,
see you soon exactly. He's gonna be out for something.
We're gonna talk about here pretty soon. Rushed to the Rockies.
So Keith McDaniel saying hello to us. Welcome in, Keith East, Idaho.

(03:48):
Digger e I d D. Welcome in. Good to see you.
How about some dig fitty fiddy How doing man? How
about the general Sorry it was I know Mandy's candy, Welcome,

(04:10):
Hello past. We got Brandon Townsend.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Oh Brandon, good to see you man.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, thanks for coming on, right, betwn like it. We
saw Loker. Troy was on here earlier. Yeah, I'm zipping
through these. How about the Drummond Detect.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Wow, good to see you man, Thanks for coming on.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah. Drummond Detect actually sent me a picture of his
license plate. No, never guessed what he has on it. No, No,
he just got a standard run. It came with fifty
two eighty on. He's like, I got to send this
to Tony Perfect. That's hilarious. Hey, we got joining us
over on Facebook, Ohio History Hunter. Yeah, all right, welcome, Yeah,

(04:52):
welcome on Perfect Man. I've spoken with him a couple
of times. He's very very active on over on Facebook,
and we've got to get him on the show. We
keep missing pass and Cross and we've been talking about
getting him on the show and stuff. So hopefully pretty
soon here. Have you offered him some money? No, I
think he doesn't want to sing a song. How about

(05:17):
Dennis gretonchord? Dennis, Yeah, we got to say cheers to
five Malarella Hunter. That's right.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't have anything. Gosh, I was teaching you about
your small bottle of bourbon that you had earlier.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I know, I posted it right before the show there
breck Ridge, Breckinridge Distillery. Yeah, good whiskey, good good whiskey
out here in Colorado. Believe it or not, it is.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I did a I did a barbecue thing, like I
used to be on a competition barbecue team. And this guy,
they used to own this barbecue shop. His son was graduating.
So he got me and the whole team together to
come out there because we put on the show and
the whole thing. We cooked this competition barbecue and we
came out. We did this whole thing for the guy, right,

(06:07):
and as a thank you, we didn't know about it. Right,
as a thank you, the wife had gone out and
bought us all these huge baskets and in them they
had like three or four bottles of bourbon, and the
center one was this gigantic bottle of Breckinridge Bourbon, and
I had never had it before, and I tried it
and I really liked it, And now.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's one they go tos for sure. Yeah, yep. This
is the second time, second bottle I've got, because the
first one I got was really good, so I went
back and got another one. About this, I was kind
of questioning, do I get the big bottle? Do I
get you know that I don't want them to think
I'm an alcoholic or something, so I went with kind

(06:49):
of the reasonable size. So well, let's talk about this
hunt coming up next weekend.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Wait a minute, we're still we're still talking about bourbon.
We are strand hands almost some cherry cask almost brought
that down tonight. And did you see who showed up?
Great out checking what's up? How are you?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
What's up? Zach? How are you? Buddy? All right?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Absolutely, we do maybe soon, maybe soon, very soon. All right,
tell us about what's coming up next weekend?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Is it already that time? My gosh. You know, when
you plan something like Rush to the Rockies, a metal
detecting event, and you open it up to everyone and
you bring it, there's so much to plan, there's so
much to think about. And we had a meeting last
night and uh, there's still things to think about. Even
though we think we have it all planned out, it's
getting down to the wire. Tell you that if you're

(07:49):
not coming, you need to check it out. Go to
Eureka THC, dot o r G and look for Rush
to the Rockies. You can Google or search for Rush
to the Rockies. You'll find it. You can ask Tony
and I about it on email if you want. But
Rush to the Rockies is our national open metal detecting event.
May thirtieth, thirty first and June first. That's a Friday,

(08:09):
Saturday and Sunday. Boy, we have all the big manufacturers
helping us out. We have knocked our main sponsor helping
us out. Garrett came to town in a really big way,
and Mine Labs stepped up too. I'll tell you what.
Not only did they step up and sponsoring us, giving
us some cool things for some token prizes and some
raffle prizes, but they're also bringing their Masters of Metal

(08:31):
Metal Detecting contests competition to the Rush of the Rockies hunt.
So May thirtieth, thirty first and June first, man, that
is that's next weekend. Isn't it holy?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Next weekend? Yeah, following weekend.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, but you can come out. You can join the
Masters of Metal competition. Just look down below. We'll put
a link down to it down there, and yeah, you
have to register for that on mine Labs website for
the Masters of Metal. And you can get more information
over at Eureka THC dot org or just search for

(09:06):
a Rush of the Rockies has so much stuff. We
have five hunts planned, three hunts on Saturday, two hunts
on Sunday, plus a free kids hunt on Sunday, plus
the Masters of Metal going on all throughout it. You
can come and just take place in the Masters of Metal.
It's fifty dollars for a four person team, and or

(09:26):
you can you know, you can participate in both. You
could do one or the other. They're not going to
interfere with each other. But come on out and join
Tony and I. We have a lot of people showing up.
The numbers have grown and grown, so we're we're just
seeing everyone out here in Kiowa, Colorado, May thirty thirty first,
in June first. How many how many entries do we

(09:48):
have for Rush of the Rockies. What was one hundred
almost up to one hundred right now. Yeah, yeah, so
you're gonna want to be a part of it. You're
not gonna want to miss that one for sure. Yep.
All right, cool, I'm just reading the chat. I know
I was trying to catch you on the chat there too.
Let's bring in our guests. That's cool, all right, let's

(10:10):
do this. Yeah, we're allot to bring on this guy
right here.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Look at this, we've got mister Bull Hayes makes of
h's right.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
How are you Bill doing good? Yeah? Well, thanks for
thanks for coming on Relics Radio with us. I appreciate it.
Just be a lot of fun it should be. Now,
how long have you been listening to Relix Radio since
the beginning?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Pretty much to the beginning. Yeah, I'm may I missed
a couple of shows early, but you know, back when
Lloy and you know, Jeff were running things. Yeah, when
I started started listening.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, that's a yeah, that's a while. Now it's been
what eight years, I think.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
For eight years.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
He's an eighth year right now. Yeah, that's a long time.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I know I've seen you Tony and I think we're
guests on that very first season Lloy invited us on
his guest and uh, and so we've always we've been
fans from get go from them, you know, show the
same thing with you, Bill. I think I probably didn't
discover it until show five or something like that, or
four or five, and then started listening. Now you've detected

(11:33):
with Loy, right.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, Uh down d d I V. One time down
at d I V.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, digging in Virginia For those who are familiar.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
With that, I think we was at Brandy Rock at time.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, that's a real big area to hunt.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Brandy Rock.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah. I think they've been here a couple of times
for d I V. Haven't they.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
For that spot? They've probably done close to a dozen times. Yeah,
they've kept that place pretty hard. But it's a big
that you couldn't clean it.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Out right right, I was gonna say, I noticed you.
You appear to be a big fan of Roads to
the radio. We have we have matching hats. Look at that, Yeah,
I almost look at that. Yeahs of the show there.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Huh, that's right.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
How many of them Digging in Virginians have you gone to?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Bill?

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Have you been to a number of them?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I think I want about three or four years there.
But some of those where they would do like a
double you know, do one at one site and then
you know, just to shift and then you'd go the
other site. Yeah, you know, it's like five days of
five or six days of you know, digging from about

(13:08):
eight o'clock in the morning till dark.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, after for.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
A reason, so you might as well put in daylight,
you know, the sun up to sundown. I mean we've
done the same thing in England, same idea. You know,
if you're wasting any daylight and you're just wasting time, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Or anything can be anything can be great over there,
any beep, you know. So when you get on those
sites and you think about what was happening there during
the time they were there, and some of the stuff
they left behind, do you find anything interesting in your
Time's there?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Bill?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
A bunch of different bullets and buttons. I did get
down there a hank it was well, I can't remember
the name of those places there. It was a right
rat troot, you know, that was where they found that
hold two cases of Shaler bullets.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh no, kidding, I don't know if you.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Remember seeing any of that they had. I think they
found like nine and eight complete set, you know, the
Sailor's three pieces. Yeah, geez, that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
That's a good spot. That's a good spot. You were
there to see that.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
What's your dog's name? Said, Yeah, she got to protect
the house, that's for sure. Yeah, I went to Cole's Hill.
That's the only that's the only digging in Virginia I've
gone to.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I think be Yo Brand. You're all a couple of times.
Uh oh the bird, Oh yeah, there was some other
couple others like don't fair Field. I think it was
that one was a way a little ways away from there.

(15:14):
You know, it was a I think it was about
a half hour more drive you get to it. Oh
really it was a battle. You know, that had surprisingly
good you know soil there. You know, you get down
there Beauregard Brandy rock. That is the nastiest soil you've

(15:35):
ever seen. It would make you talk to yourself.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Why why is it so bad there?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's the minimalization, it's I guess it's it's like a
deteriorating iron. It's just the ground. It's just so saturated.
If you ever heard them talk about the red dirt, Yeah,
that's Yeah, that's you know, that's you can lay a
coin on top of the ground in some places and

(16:04):
you cannot hear it that h mineralized.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, it's funny you brought that up because there was
a question that just went in the chat from Dropped
and Forgotten and said, is it true you need a
PI machine for d I V I heard the noise
is bad multi and single frequency machines.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah. Most of the time you can use a regular
machine on there, you know, regular BLF, but you have
to go very slow and you have to go dig
every signal, every little blip. But you Yeah, some places
where they're not in the plowed fields, there be in

(16:44):
the woods or something, you can use a you know,
a you know v A left in there pretty easily
and get a little depth out of it there. But
out in the cloud fields the VOF is pretty much useless. Yeah, nowadays,
because they've they've cleaned out all the surface stuff and

(17:05):
you have to have something, you know, you get. Yeah,
you have to go at least a foot to get
this stuff nowadays.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, at least a foot, and sometimes a lot further
than that, and a lot further sometimes. When I went
to h Cole's Hill. I went there and met up
with Matt Howell and all his buddies, and I borrowed
a PI machine from Jeff Lubert. Okay, he let me

(17:38):
borrow his uh forty eight hundred. Yeah, and uh it
was it was interesting.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Tough to learn on the front.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
The PII machine is just totally different. You know, you
cannot pick one of them up and just go out
and went right off the bat. You just the signals,
the signals and uh pinpointing and everything. You know. It's
you know, totally different than a p I or than

(18:11):
a bo F machine and heavy.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
They're also heavy.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Do you have what PI machine to use?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Bill?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
When you go out there? Do you have a like a.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Mile I've got a I got one of the Garrett
at xes O. That thing is a tank.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, it is that around.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
You. I had finally, I you know, after using for
a day or so the first time. Uh hack you guy.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Keith from uh you know mine mind Lab dealer over
in Pennsylvania. Yeah, he had what they called a mine
Lab Pro Swing. It's like a vest with a you know,
bungee cords and that on it where you could look
it up and you know, it takes some of the
weight off, right, you know, it's almost just that, it's

(19:13):
almost what Tony, Yeah, it's almost to have some sort
of a cord or a device to go to hold.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I mean, you're you're not swinging that all day long
without one of those.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
No, that's when you you're glad to have place with
plenty of signals. That way your ears up and down
as long as between.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
That's right. You wouldn't make it if you're swinging the
entire field of only getting a few signals, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Right, I had a blast, but you're right. It was
a completely different type of dig. And then you have
the added the added excitement of if you get into
a pit.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, I never try to pit. You know. That takes
a little different style of hunting to get that. Yeah,
for sure. For sure.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
All his friends are really into it. And when I
was at Cold's Hill, I saw about ten ten guys digging,
digging a hole probably deep and probably ten feet in diameter,
and they were all taking turns and digging it out
and they were just pulling stuff out left and right,
and it was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, what's funny day? You know, when they started digging
in pits. They can actually walk off so many steps
in that and they'll find the next one. They're always
in a line up up a hill or so, you know,
they every yeah, forget how many you know feet it

(20:58):
was between the huts. Jokey dollars to count, you know,
isn't that cool? Yeah, that's that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
That's awesome. I like that.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
And when they start digging it from you just standing
there to bottom the hill and you could just look
up and you can see all the pits.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Sure. Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
When you see old pictures of some of those places too,
you see how they're all regimented and lined up, and
it makes a lot of sense. Now you got me
wanting to go back, man, I.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Gotta know, I know.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Oh boy, Yeah, it's so much fun.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well, hey, we had a we had a quick question
early on here just to kind of start things off
from Relic Jedi. Just want to know how many years
you've been swinging and then kind of what part of
Ohio you're from.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I've been hunting for I hang about fifty years now.
I started nineteen seventy five.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
That was a good year. That was a really good.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Started out, Yeah, started out with the big old Whites
sixty three t R. A big tank. Yeah, that's the
one they called the lunch box Whites. You know, you
could drop the battery door on the back. There's enough
room in the bottom the case start that you could

(22:19):
slide a sandwich in.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I gotta look it up now, man, I know right
it was the Whites sixty three Whites TR gold Master right,
gold Master.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, probably footing a half long, about sixty eight inches tall.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
It's like a Geiger counter and a straight.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Handle, you know how you know they got them now,
this was the handle was level with the top of
the detector. There's no till or nothing on it, not
at all. Risk was in a very hard position the

(23:07):
back then now we you know, we was young. We
could do that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Check it out, Tony, that's it right there.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've absolutely seen those. Wow, big handle
the top like a lunch box, and all I have
probably wasn't on button right and then and some sort
of a meeting on off.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
And u uh. It had what they called a metal
or mineral Oh you know you well, you could go
you could actually get it to pick up you know, rocks,
certain types of rocks and stuff because it had a
mineral slide on it.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Got Oh that's a good picture there.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's a long time Bill.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I was gonna say, you know what, I think I've
seen those in like antique shopping stores and.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, Bill, you've been hunting as long as Tony's been around.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yep. That's why I said seventy five was a good year.
I was born in September seventy five. See yeah, Ohio
weapon or said. I started with a sixty two Whites
or Masters that ring a bell there, Bill? Remember those?

Speaker 3 (24:22):
It looked somewhat similar. I had different buttons and you
know switches, you know back end they didn't have buttons?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah right, what got you into it?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Bill? Like, of all things? Right, where did that come from?

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah? I've always been interested in history and stuff like that,
So yeah, I think I just started seeing them on
you know, magazine or something like that. And then I
just talking to a couple of people I used to
work with, and you know, they were detecting and that's

(25:06):
how I kind of got started. That's how I ended
up with the Whites because that was what they were using.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, right, right, I wanted to show this picture you're
talking about getting started? How about this one right here?
Tell us about this picture?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, I got to know about that one.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
What's going on there? That's what you went.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, that's been a pretty old picture you can see
because it's got a Barrett patch on there. That's that's
really old. That's h you know, probably early seventies or
mid seventies.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Okay, collectors item.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Now, Yeah, we was called the the Red Legs. There
was a gang of you know, five of us that
we all went to hunts together.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
You've been on a red hands and.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Shirts and everything.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
That's so cool. What uh can you identify the machine
sitting right here?

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Actually that one right there? The blue, it's got the
blue on it. Yeah, Garrett Ady X two A yes two.
It's been repainted. It wasn't green anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(26:37):
Have you ever heard of a yo? Wear it metal defector?

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Wear it? No?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
No?

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Wear it? Do you wear It's a move? It's a mute.
It's a Garrett metal detect a white coil. Oh, you
haven't have a special adapt for the cable for the
you know, the coiled cable to make a match. But

(27:06):
it worked as good, or actually worked better than the
white the Garrett loop, because the Garrett loop, if you
bump it, you got a signal with a white sloops
your bump and he just kind of gnawed out. So
you wasn't chasing You wasn't chasing signals.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Right right?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
How did you get him to talk to each other?
You just had to get a special adapter, you said.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, you just had it. Just had to change the
pin locations. Oh yeah, you know that they were run
the same frequency, they were run everything. You know, it
just depends where it just didn't match up. So you
had to have that little piece of it was probably
about that that long. Yeah, screwed it onto the the

(27:55):
box of the detector, screwed the coil into the other end.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
When you hear that, you just, yeah, you just think
of such a different time than now. Now we go out, Yeah,
buy a detector, and it's it is what it is,
you know, all proprietary. No one would ever think of
bust in the box open and putting three or four
more wires in there and a couple of days and
making some monster, some Frankenstein metal detector out of it

(28:22):
that works better. That's back then, That's what they did.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Ohiolla hunter City calls the uh called the red legs,
the polyester.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Pirates, we were called a few other things.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, you're out there finding all the good stuff, not
leaving anything else.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Oh yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
That must have been the heyday. Wow.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, Teresa said, you look like a NASCAR guy.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Uhs. And we were. We were had a convention over
in Atlantic City. They had a treasure hunting convention at
the same time, you know, the Federation Metal Detectors. We
were state going to be staying at the Trump Castle

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there on Atlantic City. We got out there, we had
our red outfits on everything. The security guard looked at
us and said, you guys, uh, where's where's the race car?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
At grew Yeah, you look absolutely yeah, it looks like
you you you were changing tires for Dale Earnhart there.
You just need a cigarette hanging out of your mouth
and that's good. Make sure love that.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
So even the camaraderie in the community was lively back then,
you know what I mean. Yeah, but boy, you know,
you probably got on a lot of sites in those
early days that had a lot of things at him.
You know, had a lot of items at him because
things wearing the hunted out and you probably got on
some really interesting property back then.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, Tony said he's coming back. You're East Dire next month.
I think it is, isn't it. Yep, I'll take you
one of the well the spots were one hundred back
in the you know, late seventies early eighties. Found all

(30:26):
kinds of barber and a couple of seated, a couple
and eighteen o seven to to real.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, okay, I'm ready for that. I'll take that any day, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
See like, yes, what.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Sorry, we're on there.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
A little higher, a little higher, there we go.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Oh look at that crap. That is huge.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
That's a two real bill.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
That's a two real out.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
He just had it up to the camera clothes. Okay,
beautiful though.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, there's the little Dankey ones. That's a half reality.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Half real okay, right, all those all those are found
at the same site.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
No, the hat that too realite was from that site
to talk about. It was an old card picnic grove
carl Over Grant. You used to have a steam engine
shows up there and uh I got a lot of

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old barber, got one seated seated quarter and I got
the you know that's it's too real.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
M hmm. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
But you know, I thought you guys told me or
somebody once told me that there's no more relics in Ohio.
They're just hunted out.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
There's places that are hunted out and the nurse places
that you go in. If you're lucky, you get a
couple of pieces. Right, Yeah, you might hunt all day
and find you know, the place where I got the
the piece of eight. That place has been beat to death,

(32:26):
but it's still giving up. Go out there.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Is that the button sight or something like that? You
call that?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, it's the butt what to call the button foundation?

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, I think Bill marsh and somebody else actually found place.
It was a virgin site. I think he said they,
you know, two hundred three hundred buttons out of there.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Wow, wow, jeez, pretty amazing. You know what, being back
from from seventies on, I mean, you have to understand
what a virgin site is. You know, for the rest
of us now digging in twenty twenties, I hardly ever
is called a virgin site. Honestly.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, it's almost impossible to find.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah wow, unless yeah, that was some little little spot
that there's totally no idea, you know there was something there,
you just have to stumble over it.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well, actually, Ken and I do. We did have a
virgin site and we stumbled on it. Yeah. The area
had been had been actually hunted since the nineties by
archaeologists are treasure hunting club, ye, and we just kind
of we came on one site and that's what we
called the Buttonhouse, ironically, because we found a whole bunch

(33:53):
of general service buttons, a whole bunch of star carving bullets,
and it was a it was a cavalry camp on
thatacific spot and everything else around it had been hit
by the archaeologists since the nineties except for that one
small little spot, and we hunted that for close to
a year and a half. Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I found needles there, and I found you know, I
found there was forks and knives there, like period forks
and knives. And I did. I found like seven or
eight of these little needles, man that were definitely period.
I don't know. And the Colorado soil bill is very
very very loamy and very gentle on these relics, like

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they really preserve these relics in great shape. And I
think that Yeah, we even saw a map of how
the detectors from back then and the archaeologists what they
had hit and what they had found. And they never
got permission for that one lot that we happened to yep,
And we didn't know that ahead of time. We knew

(34:53):
that after the fact. So we hit this lot and
and just had a great year. And and then somebody
stepped forward and said, wow, you guys hit the spot
that we didn't hit, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, Bill in the chat says they got one hundred
and forty buttons the first day at that site, in
the same on day two. That is just that's a
busy site.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
And then look what else you put real quick said
they were everything from script War of eighteen twelve to
Egle buttons to Tom backs to Dan g such a spread.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Right used. Yeah for a long time. That's great. Yeah, Wow,
what a great sight. Wow, I got another picture I
wanted to share with you real quick. Here. I know
you got to kick out the last one. How about
this one.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
There's all red legs again.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
That's right. Look at that winning first place got the
get on.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
There custom color blue.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Do you remember what this event was or anything?

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Uh was Land of Lincoln on over Springfield, Illinois. Yeah. Wow,
they had like a two round competition. I had the
most targets, you know most. I had a two rounds, Tony.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
There's a lot going on in that picture right there.
There's a lot like that belt buckles. Yeah, really cool.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
It's a major major. Now I got a question, Bill,
why didn't you paint your Garrett red?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Back then I didn't think of that because oh I
had was a can of blue paint.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
There you go. That's funny, that's cool. That's great, man, Tony.
That we need to revive that.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, to show up. Nobody wants to
Nobody wants the competition. Yeah, nobody wants to see me
in tight red polyester pants. Though that's not a sight
anybody wants to see. I think Bill was the last
guy that could wear those.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Did you get that one picture I sent you earlier today, Fisher?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
The I did not sorry about that. Hit the wrong button?

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah you.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
See, Oh no, I didn't see that one.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Look at that. The whole team, the whole team of
the Red lad looks like.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Boys to men or some some Baxpree boys backstreet boy.
Picture right there.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Bill hold that back up. Did it say hunters, beware
on that thing.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
They're coming for you.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Oh my good stop there, red legs, don't the quiet
one has arrived. Oh my gosh, the new twelve thirty
six x two. Oh my goodness, silencer mode. Oh that's
wow wow Andy Davis, Ron David uh, Bill Dave Carter cool,
very cool.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
That is great. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Oh drumming. The text said, the name of that group
is called the Backfield.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Boys, Sackfield Boys. Perfect. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Somebody pulld us one time where we'dle those you said,
we you deliver.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
That's great. Well, I'm glad you let us post some
fun at you back then there. Bill, Absolutely, it's a
it's a lot of fun see that.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
I love seeing people that have been doing as long
as you've been doing it and hear the stories from
back in the day of just like what it was
like back then, Like, uh, how did you get your
permissions back then? Like how did you what did you
look for? Because there's there's farm fields, there's woods in.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
The woods back then. A lot of times when we
was hunting the parks and uh, you know, school yards
and stuff like that, there was you know, nobody back then,
nobody even bothered, you know, really asking for permissions. Now

(39:33):
it was public property. You know, you just when didn't hunting,
nobody bothered you. You know, they didn't as long as
you wasn't making a mess or something, they didn't care.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Huh wow. Well, so it wasn't like a lot I
mean a lot of there's not a lot of research
to get on specific sites. It was just kind of go.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
You know, like I said, it was like parks and
uh you know fair grounds and yeah, school you know
old school houses and stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Now would you find? And that was all in Ohio,
like if you always yes, Ohio.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Sometimes we'd hunt different places where we went for treasure hunts.
You know, we would do some hunting different places. Somebody
tell us you get us into.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Have you do? You have you told up how many
states you've hunted over fifty years and any ballpark figure,
I would.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Say it's easily over twenty.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Five half the half the states there You go, jeez,
that's so cool. What was it like when you know
hunting back then? You know, going to the parks you
know in say seventies and eighties, I mean you got
to be I've heard stories of people, you know, old

(41:00):
timers that have been around forever and like you couldn't
you know, leave without having five silver coins in your
pocket because it was just that's what.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah back and that wasn't really no big deal, right.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
No big deal. Yeah, I just found a bunch.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Of I got a dime. Yeah, you got a dime
that's seven years old, No big deal.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
There was a lot of times you'd have more and
more sober than you would clad.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Oh take that in everybody I know, right, yeah, right, jeez.
Here's uh, here's something came in from actually Mark, you
can see Mark. Old timers around there talked about hunting
places that are now protected and illegal, like old military sites,
historical sites back when they weren't protected. Did you ever

(41:56):
get on any of those sites?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
I never got onto that. Most of that. It was
early seventies or late sixties, you know, I guess back
then a lot of places where even national parks were
really open.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
It it was really you know, different back then than
it is now.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah. Yeah, that's for sure, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
When did you when did you get attracted to relics
or were you finding relics in the parks? And the such.
Back then since that, Ohio, I.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Get more in you know, the relics. When we you know,
with the Red Legs Gang, we'd a lot of times
we'd stop if we was in you know, some area
we had civil work, you know stuff, we would take
a little time and go do some hunting there. Or

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we would take and get together and go like on
a you know, Thanksgiving weekend, we always went and went
down around Shiloh and down in that direction. You know,
we had some friends down there and get us into
a different places to go hoting. So it was kind

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of like a once a year thing.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, you can see yourself a relic hunter these days,
or you will go the.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Yeah it's now. You know basically I don't go out
in park or somewhere like that. I go back in
the woods or flower field and stuff like that. You know,
you may come out there whole day and have a
handful of something, but it's going to be good.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be old that you get
into those places where you don't get the cross contamination
in terms of dates and things like that, so you're
not digging you know, uh uh bottle caps, you're not
digging beaver tails. You know, you're not digging aluminum cans,
you know, hopefully you know, if you're going to get

(44:18):
a signal, it's going to be an old something. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah, it's like what we call the relic hunter's pool tab. Yeah,
the shotgun bases. Yeah, the twelfth Georgia button.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yes, we have we uh yeah, they were all the
way out here in Colorado too, Yeah, that's twelfth Georgia boys.
Those guys were everywhere. My gosh. Last weekend, you know,
I found a very rare sixteenth Georgia. Not too many

(44:56):
people know that there was a sixteenth george too. And
uh I found a couple of those.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
And their cousins, the twentieth Georgia, that's right.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yeah, and I even found a real rare one, you know,
Sunday there I found a four four tenth Georgia.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Tenth Georgia. Wow, they were an elite group. They were
an elite unit.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Teresa said. Even in England you have twelfth Georgia over there,
and Bill.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Bill, you see, yeah, you see that, well then you know,
take a hole, then it pops up and you just
see that back flat. Yeah, you know the sides of it.
You know, quarter nickel or something. You think you really
got something.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Yeah, they said they're good. How many times has that happened?
How many times? I mean, if you don't get three
of those in a hunt, you know, if you don't
get three holy apps that I got a coin then uh,
and it turns out to be a headstamped, then you
know you're digging the wrong ones.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, it's hard to it's hard to separate those out.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Man, It's really it just sounds so good. They're crisp. Yeah,
sound just.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Like a coin. Yeah, you can. I can. I can
tell a lot of times before I dig, I can
say it's going to be a yo shotgun bite.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
But yeah, yeah, still fun to dig. I mean no,
I mean this guy right here, he found one that
uh what was it? The shotgun? What was that? What's
the website didn't have a picture of it? Ken found
one of those corner corner Yeah. Yeah, so they're fun there.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
You know, you can you can date them, which is
what I like. You know what I mean, you kind
of need an idea of the site you're on. You know,
if you're finding everything from twenties and thirties, your you're
you know, you know, you're probably on a twenties to
thirties or so sight, so it's kind of good to
help age the area you're in.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I can, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Have you ever dug a full metal cartridge, you know,
copper or brass for a shotguns?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Not for shotguns? Yeah, yeah, for shockuns, full shot yeah,
full checket.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Wow, geez, I've never dug one of those.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
We've dug like full like Henry Henry cartridges and sharps
and stuff like that, you know, you know, breech loading
cartridges and stuff. But yeah, never never shotgun for me.
Never a shotgun.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
No, yeah, I've gotten to One of them was kind
of smashed. The other of them was pretty good shape.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
And what's the date range on that sucker?

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I've never really you know, yeah, yeah, tried to check
it out.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
M mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
It's one of those things you bring in, you sit
it down and say, I'm gonna check us out, and
then you never get around to it.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
We had some questions coming, didn't we, Tony.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Actually, Bill just said I got a full breast twelve
George twelfth Georgia at the Button Foundation. What did you
not find at the Button Foundation. That list might be
a little bit smarter.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Okay, we should just start guessing things and skeltic kye.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
We'll see if he's got that or oh yeah, there
you go. Yeah, what do you want to go to? Uh?
For the questions?

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Let me see see there's a lot of them. Oh,
here we go. Uh yeah, Bob.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Rose Wanning, have you ever hunted in Indiana?

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Bill? Yeah, a lot of times. You used to go
over the Seymour We're down there three or four times
a year for haunts, and you know that area. We'd
go all over there. You know what part of Indiana

(49:08):
cy from?

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I don't know. He didn't say. Let let us know,
Bob in the chat, what part of Indiana you from?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
There? Yeah? There you go.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Have you ever had have you had a favorite place
you've detected?

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Bill?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Any state or any specific area that you just really
in all these nd there's nothing in all in all
these years, you you're just like, yeah, Ken, there was
this one site. Man, it just was you know, I'll
never forget it. Besides Bill's Button Button Foundation.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Yeah, actually one site is a yeah form, his farm
butts up against Shyler Battlefield. Yeah, he's a. We made
friends with the guy. You going down there all the time,
and his field. His farm is actually part of Shiloh

(50:04):
Shiloh Battlefield but not the National Park, so you know,
we can hunt in there. And we got all kinds
of different buttons and bullets out of there.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
I couldn't even imagine that. That's yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
He had a kind of a flat spot there behind
his house and that. But they used to pull the
junk cars in there and everything, and then they cleaned
them out of there, but it left a lot of
junk and you had to be able to sort through
the junk to get to the you know, the buttons

(50:45):
and the bullets.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah. Do you know who Rodney Lewis is?

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Bill hm hm names sound a little familiar.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
He's on Facebook. He's on Facebook. He's a bullet guy.
Yeah yeah, and he uh we had him on the
show here. He showed us kind of his his his
setup or his display cabinets and such, and he talked bullets, right,
he was on talking about Tony and he uh yeah.

(51:16):
He says he's got one of the largest connection collections
of Shiloh artifacts and relics, and boy, I believe because
he showed some stuff out there, and so pretty impressive
that you were able to get him that kind of
sight and find some Can you remember some of the
cooler the kind of nicer things you found there? Was
it just bullets and buttons and stuff like any kind

(51:38):
of plates or any kind of.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Never never got a plate. You know. The guy that
owned the place, he him and his son hunted it too.
So yo, they probably cleaned out the easy stuff, you know,
we getting in there work. There was one hill a

(52:04):
couple back behind his barn. The hill was they called,
We called it buck and ball hill. Oh yeah, gosh,
you know what bucking ball is? Buck shot. They were
just everywhere.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yeah, I can't lay off those either. It's kind of tough.
They sound good too.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Still hold, you're still old John Smith in the chat
or what what did he he called himself? What was
his name? Chuck Bryant? He said, hunted that Shiloh lamb
many times right next to the peach Orchard. Park Service
hates him too.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah, did you ever get a chance to hunt? Go ahead,
m I was gonna say, did you ever get a
chance to hunt?

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
With lloy in those forty four woods? Remember you used
to always hunt the forty four woods.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
No, well, I always wanted to get down there or
go hunt what was it five yeah, five Acrahola or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
five mile hollow, five mile holler.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yep. That always sounded very attractive to me too, even
getting out, even getting out on that lake. It sounded
always tempting for me to get on that lake out there,
five mile haller.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah, that was You had some stories on that place.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Yeah, he sure did.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Man, I still love listening to those.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
The uh do you do you get out much of
these days? And like you do, you usually go out
on your own. Are usually with a.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Group a lot of time to go home on or
if I can talk Bill into it, he's been busy.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Well, we don't know because he's not on here. Wink wink.
Yeah you know Bill, Bill, if you ever come on
with us and we'll bring Bill Hayes back on again, Yeah,
you'll come on as a duo. We'll talk all about
I promise you will talk all about barbecue first and
then we'll get.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
First forty five minutes. I love barbecue. We can have pictures,
we can have videos, smell vision, we'll figure that out.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
You could put a blanket over you know, so you
can just be the like the unknown comic. Remember that guy.
Oh gosh, we've got to get you in here.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Man, and we put a big over.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
In a couple of holes. Yeah, he said he was
a little little too intimidated, and come on here, Yeah,
get you on here. We're gonna get you on here.
We're gonna shame into it.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Bill. That's right, that's right. Uh, what do you want
to you next year? Can I got some stuff for it?
You want to get to the uh, to the big stuff,
to the big.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Find the big questions here they come.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Earlier in the night Bill had out here he had
made a statement that cut piece of eight was an
amazing condition. Glad I was a witness to that, and
that's definitely something I wanted to talk about tonight. So
I'm gonna pull this up here and we're gonna play
this over the top as you're telling us kind of
about what you found here. So we'll pull this up

(55:38):
and uh, here we go.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
So first of all, Bill, what is this?

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Yeah, tell us it's a eighth of of an eight real.
They took an eight real and just like cutting a
pie they cut it eight you know, equal section.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Oh they got sound on it now, but it's pretty
low yeah okay, all right, yeah, no, you're good. So
how big was it? An eight real bill?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
So people know that's about size of a silver dollar, okay?

Speaker 1 (56:18):
And massive they called these pieces of pieces of eight
pieces of eight. Yeah yeah, look at that thing.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Well this was this was out at the Button Foundation
or the Foundation house, right, yeah, that had been entered
since twenty fourteen, so like eleven years.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
And uh, that's so so amazing. What an amazing piece?
Is that your first piece of eight that you found?

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Yeah, that was the first first cut silver I got.
I have five you know real you know, got three
uh ten, three half reals, one one real and a
tr real. And then.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
The condition of it is just insane. You're able to
get now, I mean one are the odds here. So
it's cut into eight pieces and you're able to actually
get part of the date on one of one of
the eight here.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yeah that is uh.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
On's seventeen hundreds.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
And you know what the best you know, the best
thing is Ken not only the laugh and the smile
in the video, but look at Bill, like right, now
he's reliving this entire moment again, and he's doing it
from the air to ear like he's got it right there.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Look at that that, Oh man, look at that. The size,
the size comparison is really.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Crazy in the video. But well, yeah, take take a
whole silver dollar and I mean you cut that up
and man, that's those are some big pieces. And why
would they cut those into eight into eights? Why would
they cut them?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Uh? That's the way they made change.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
I was like eight real is considered like a dollar,
like a silver dollar, and then you cut it eight
pieces and you know, just yeah, fractional change.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Sure, So how roll can her see the light shine
on his hole? It was meant to be so, like Bill,
did the clouds part and the angels sing and the
light shine down on you? Did you flow? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:54):
A holler? And there when across the dirt, not seeing
that over there on the ground, It's like, is this
what I think it is?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I was going to ask you, did you know immediately
what it was? Or do you're like, wait a.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Minute, I thought I knew what it was. I was
pretty sure. You don't see too much, you know, silver
cut in that right? Your shape.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Yeah. Wow, definitely a bucket list item. Someday we're going
to find him around here in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
But it only took forty nine years to find that.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
That's absolutely incredible. Yeah, and I remember hearing in the
video that it was right really at the base of
a tree. You had to kind of maneuver around some roots,
and you had sent something about the other Bill had
found a button like right next to it.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Yeah, he found, but you're probably a couple of feet
away from it. Okay, there was a there was a tree,
there was the coin, and then there was a little
wild rose bush sticking up there. That's probably why he didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Here's another another shot here. You know, Bill actually made
it into American Digger magazine a couple of times, two
issues in a row, two issues in a row. And
there's a shot of that cut eight and uh, you know,
the one thing I wanted to point out, the most

(01:00:35):
important thing I wanted to point out about this article
was if you look down here Tony in red, you'll
see that it says what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
He was using. See that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I know you got to look closely, but I can't
see that. You can't see that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I can't see that. Whatever how long you been swinging
the day Is Too, Bill?

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Oh? Probably about two three years.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Now, did you swing the Dais one before that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Yeah? I had that for probably a good five years
or more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
So when I went from the Dais one to the
Dais Too, it really wasn't that much of a difference,
you know, there was there was some really different you
know on the tones and stuff like that and some
of that. But the Dais two was a lot more stable,

(01:01:35):
wasn't kind of wasn't really as noisy, you know, it's
the Dais one, was it it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
You know, you get to get a high on the
yeah sensitivity ned start cracking and making noise that the
days Too uh pretty much doesn't do that. Mm hmm
nless you got some really bad ground.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah, what did Bill say? He said, well, you found
that cut eight? What did he say, Tony?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Where was that? Here? Hold on? He was yelling Bill, Bill, Bill,
I got a triangle. I was like a triangle, triangle
like the triangles would play in the elementary school band,
you know that kind of triangle. Way better, way better triangle.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
He also said that He also said that his battery
died or he would have got it on his next wing?
Did he did he go away and you can't? Did
you come in and take his thunder? Is that what
he's trying to say here. I'm glad you guys have
fun together out there. For sure he had so.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
I mean, Bill Marsh has had that since twenty fourteen,
So if he didn't find it by then, it's open.
It's free game now anybody else, it's all yours. You
had the opportunity. So, boy, have.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
You updated to the new version yet?

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Bill?

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
What version on your day is too?

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
I haven't put the new one on yet. The new
one's still just beta versions, still test version right, So
I think I'm gonna wait until I get to full
you know, thing done?

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Are you on two right now?

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Yeah? Two point one? I think it is whatever the
latest was, right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
And uh sorry, Tony, we're gonna talk dais talk. We
used to outlaw Denny from coming on here and talking
about the well you put himself down in this day.
I don't know. I haven't seen him in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
It doesn't like moving over here to YouTube. You liked
the better when we're just on speaker. Yeah, he pops
in every once in a while, usually at the end
of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Yeah, I wish we could still do that on Spreaking.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
If you want to have a a night where you
don't have to talk much, just get down in here. Yeah,
he'll He'll talk the whole night and you won't even
really have to say anything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
When we were still on Spreaker, he would call in
every single week, ye without fail. And we've got to
talk to him. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
We need to have him on here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
That would be a good absolutely, because.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Then Tony and I could sip on bourbon and we
just let him go. That's right, just yeah, just ask
him what was that a little bit? Yea, what was
that like about that? Do tell us what that was about?

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Man, he's a good guy. I got to detect alongside
of him and digging in Virginia at Coles Hill. Oh yeah,
when I was there, he was over there side of me.
And I don't think we knew each other as well
then because it was it was a while ago.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
But yeah, yeah, anyways, Yeah, I've known Danny for probably
back in the early eighties, is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Wow? Yeah, guys, I tell you, man, like Ken, we
got to go to dav we need to go to
just back east in those type of events, and you
just want to be able to fly on the wall
around the people that have been in this this hobby
for that long. I mean I just am in complete
awe of what they've seen over the last you know,

(01:05:37):
for bill fifty years. Gosh, I just what an amazing community,
amazing hobby and some amazing detectorists still out there. Yeah,
still doing it, yea, I'm still doing getting on it,
still finding pieces of eight. I tell you that I
haven't found one of those. Forty two more years to
go before I'm allowed to find a piece of eight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
So you saw you saw what Larry Stevens found there, right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Oh yeah, you found that full eight on the full eight.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
He didn't get that he was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
He had the whole thing. He didn't even bother he
was right, that was That was a big chunk of silver.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
That's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
We still need to get them on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
To Here's here's another one on my bucket list. It
just kicked up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Okay, oh okay, oh cat bus first cap bus eighteen
half dime what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Eighteen eighteen thirty five, eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Thirty five cat bus half dime? Boy, those are little
little Look how beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
That is Yeah, that's a great eagle. Yeah, great eagle.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Yeah, the of that halftime. For those of you listen
on the replay, you got to come over here and
check out the video on this. I know those that
listen on the audio, like, man, we can't see it.
Beautiful beautiful coin.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Bill, but.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Run ago.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
A couple Yeah yeah, that was just a couple of
weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, man, I couldn't imagine a little squeaker.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
That was I bet.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Solid eighty five. Yeah, I mean it was probably about
four or five inches.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Yep, I think that's what mine was too. I found
h seated halftime.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Yeah, I've gotten a little one. Yeah, I got two
seated half times. And then I got the bust from Wow,
that's actually my first bust coin found natural mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
It is great, Wow, exciting, fine for sure, Like you
had to clean that one off to even see what
you had, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Come out of signed up. I went across the you
know the thing are and I could see that eagle.
I knew it was good and flipped it over and
seen that bust on there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Finally, Yeah, Bill said, was close to your house too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Yeah, it's probably yeh, from my house, it probably Yeah,
it's cloth flies be a little more than a mile.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Jeez, Wait, you by yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
I was backer by myself that time. Yeah, that's one
of those you get something. Yeah, there's nobody to all right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Right, you couldn't tell I've got a circle. I've got
a circle.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
I've got a shining circle.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Did you call somebody when you're still in the field.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
No, But I put put a picture. I took some
pictures of it, put it on Facebook, says just Dug.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
That is so cool man. Congratulations, congratulations. So what's what's
left on your bucket list? Bill?

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Yeah, come on, much that I should have had by now.
But and you know, two cent piece and a try
and not seem to get the coil over one that
and a gold coin.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Yeah, two cent piece and a trime and a gold coin.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Wow, that's that's still a gray list. I mean, that's
not a lot of people have found those anyways. So yeah, wow, yeah, trime.
I want to find a trime for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Yeah, I've gotten three of the three Nichols, but I
haven't got a you know, trime.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Now do they find large sense up in your neck
of the woods.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
You mean Ohio Weedy?

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Is that what they call him? Ohio Shoot guys throw
them in their head droows too, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
I don't go that far.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Well, Ohio Weedy's I tell you so. When I when
I first started digging, I got I kind of friended
a detectors up there, know how, named Don He's a
detection connection. And I went out to Ohio or he said,
you know, you need to come out to I'll put
you on wheat on large sense same exactly. He's like,

(01:11:03):
we found him out here like wheaties, and we were
on this field and I kid you not, there was
like between five and seven of them found just right
off the bat like before I found mine. And I
did find one, but it was like boom boom boom.
He found a trime as well when we were out there,
and yeah, but just man, they're just they went out

(01:11:24):
there and flung those things with those big coppers around
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Yeah, I would like to find one. We're not finding
many of those here in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
No, No, just.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Like to find one. Someday. I'll get out there to
Philadelphia up to Ohio and find me a Wheaedy a
big whaedy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
This looks like you need to get over to the
Button Foundation house, of course, because that's where Bill got
his trime. But he didn't find the piece of eight.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Yeah, I'd take the people.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
You made, not imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Here's a question came in from Relici ed I said,
any Morgan's Raiders sites you've detected Bill over the years?

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yeah? We did. Uh it's about three of them with
uh C W P P O. You know where they
were working. We did, uh down by Mccallsville. There was
one there, you know where we crossed the river. And
then uh did one and uh I think it was Jackson, Ohio. Yeah,

(01:12:43):
down you know it was uh trying to think where
that well, what town's that near? But uh we found
some stuff for uh. The one down at he was
called walk Ort. That's where he crossed the uh the river.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
And uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
There you know they had a monu or a plaque
set up. It was about it says that's where he
crossed the river. I think we figured out that he
crossed the river was probably about half mile up a road.
But all the stuff that was being dug up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
There gotcha, boy, said Chili coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Mm, Chili coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
It's a town in southern Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Yeah, well I don't remember it's that one or not. Yeah,
Chilli Coffee. That's uh, kind of southeast of Columbus or southwester.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
We had some other questions come in. Yeah, Jim Steele
wanted to know you ever dug a brothel coin.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Phil, I don't. I have, not, not like the token type.
I've got a couple of those, you like, you know,
heads and tails.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Yeah, there's a there's an archaeologist here in Colorado right now,
up in the mountains near US that is doing a
doing her archaeological site on a brothel location, very old,

(01:14:46):
popular historic brothel up in one of these mountain mining towns.
And man, I'm just trying to try and itching to
get up there with her help with that, and you know,
see kind of stuff we can recover and keep on
bring our metal metal detecting services to her. But being
an archaeologist, he's not too interested in that, you know

(01:15:06):
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Right? Yeah, A relic hunter says, you've never dug a
brothel token, but you spent a few. This is what
this is what they need. Marsh On here with us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
He's got a lot of comments over here in the
live chat.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
I figured he'd be off the side dark heckling.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Yeah, here's one you know you talk about, you know,
one of your best finds ever. Yes, here's one I
don't know if you can read it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
That's going to put you up here and yep, an
s l Q stand in Liberty Quarter.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Yeah, here's an on the backside. You noticed an eagle? Yeah,
uh huh No, no, no stars underneath the eagle.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
There there's two two things. One of them is the sixteen.
The other is the sixteen type one mm hmm. The
sixteen is probably the one of the lowest minage coinage
coins of the twentieth century. Only fifty two thousand of
them were ever made.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
M m my gosh, very low.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Then yeah, and then there's the other that's the seventeen
mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
That leading for show and tell here, This is great.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Yeah cool, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
No no stars under the eagle or the type one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Mm Hmmkay I learned something there, SLQ. So yeah, either that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
There, you know, the fifteen sixteen that's one of the
probably rarer coins you know, the twentieth century yeah, that
that wasn't some sort of minire or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
You know, is is that a Is that a Doug coin?

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Yeah, both of those were Doug coins. Both of them
come out the same day.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Oh gosh, oh wow. Got the sixteen then seventies.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Yeah, if the condition of the seventeen was the condition
of the you know, the sixteen was a condition seventeen,
that would have really been a good one. I mean,
big money ready probably that definitely right there? You know
the sixteen that paid for a couple of metal detectors.

(01:18:00):
Yeah nowadays, right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Is that one of your all time favorite fines? Maybe
coins wise that you found coin wise?

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Probably that, Yeah, and the two you're like, you know,
the eight real your real and the bus half time
probably my best yea coins.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
And two of those have been dug you know, within
the last six months. You're only getting better with age
and time. Here it's it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Yeah, but this is probably this is definitely got to
be my oldest fine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Okay is that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
No? No?

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Mh okay, it's broke in.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Both of those are what you call ancient copper culture.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Oh is that copper culture? Yes, there you go, copper
Joe if you're still watching. Yeah, what what were they
used for? Do you know?

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
The one I know they called it a silt you are, like,
I guess I use them for cutting or chopping or whatever.
And then the other one I heard called a gourd
or gyle or something like that. It's you know, handmade

(01:19:39):
out of float copper.

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Wow, geez, this kind of looks like it's probably a
scraper of some sort because it's kind of got the
bebbled headge on it down there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Yeah, that's such an interesting era and uh a niche
you know in terms of history.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
That's you from what I found out about it, from
what they said A d the hunter baby, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Wow, wow, how does it feel to hold something that
old in your hand? That it was a valued tool?
You know what I mean from back in those days.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Yeah, you know when when I dug them up, they
were stacked on top of each other just like that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Oh no way, really.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
They just popped about the you know, you know, they
were probably you know, eight ten inches in the ground,
right up next to a big giant oak tree.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Mm hmm. Those trees, man, they always hide the goodies,
always next to trees, man, you're gonna find some good
stuff next to the trees. Did you know what it was immediately? Bill?
Or were you were like?

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
I didn't know. I thought it was probably a revolutionary
you know. It looked like you know, that little axe
like you or something. Yeah, but uh, I got home,
took some pictures and put it on you know, Facebook air,
and then I'll start getting some and comments for a
few people that you know told me, you know, and

(01:21:25):
then another guy told me, give me a group, says,
go put post those pictures on. There is that amateur archaologist,
you know, a group and they were the ones that
actually identified it for me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Mm hmm wow. I can't even get my head around that.
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
And you weren't you weren't hunting for copper culture, right,
did you know that copper culture area?

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Yeah? But whole day I was digging, you know, flattened
out plump cans about eight ten inches deep. Oh, I
don't then I hit that. Well, but when I hit
that one, I knew it was something good because I
was when I was using that to F seventy five. Yeah,

(01:22:18):
and I went off that thing and you know, it
hit a by your ninety seven or something like that.
Just solid no, no, you know, yeah, crackle, no iron
or nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
You know, it's the first time I've ever seen it.
I seen a signal like that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
You almost don't trust it, right you. Oh that's too high,
that's just too high. I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Good it was. It was too good of a signal
not to check it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Yeah, that F seventy five was a good machine. Still
is a good machine.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Yeah, sure yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Eastad Odigger asked if you've ever found any cannon balls.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
I've got a couple of small yo like about size
of tennis ball or something. Got a couple of them.
And I've got got a bunch of frags.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Any fuses, Yeah, I've got a few brass fuses.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Mm hmm. That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
I think I found them down to Mumperville, Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Oh, no kidding, hm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Nice, very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
We have a few more questions to get through here.
Let me see, how about Jim Steele. How many silver
dollars have you dug in your career? Have you gotten
any of them?

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
And natural I have never gotten a silver dollar. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
And you know in.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
The coin hunts, and seated hunts. I probably got sixty
five or seventy five.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
One hunt over in Pennsylvania. I had I dug five
in one hunt.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Wow, geez wow. I'd love to find a Morgan that
would be just like wild, like natural. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that would be I've.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Never never found one natural.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Have you been with somebody huh?

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Have you been around with somebody else that's dug one naturally?

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Never hunting with somebody when they got one like there?

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Wow, I couldn't even have. I could imagine pulling back
the dirt and seeing that big chunker. You know, here's
the thing I probably wouldn't do. I don't think I
would trust it. I don't think I would trust my
machine showing me something that big and been like, well,
I gotta go look at it, you know, like you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Don't you don't trust your machine if you find roman so.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
I just don't know. If it gave me a big
old ninety something, if I would be like a ninety
six or ninety seven, if I'd be like, ooh, that
sounds really good. I guess it would have to sound
really good on both sides of it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
You know what I mean, yeah, just no, no no
change in the sake, no balance or nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah maybe maybe maybe, but someday you
never know. The thing is a lot of sites that
Tony and I dig, you know, Bill, if they dropped
something like that, they they found it, they went and
got it. Yeah, we're not finding too many coins in
the sites where we dig. It's very rare when we

(01:25:47):
find a coin. I mean, we're searching for him, we're
listening for him. But it's pretty rare to find any
kind of coins in some of the sites we've been
hunting because they were poor, you know, back then, and
needed every scrap they could get.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Yeah, the site there where I got that half dime,
I've got the half dime and two large sense out
of there, and probably about two dozen flat buttons, and
you know, I think a couple of you know, tom backs.
I don't think I've got any pewter out of that site.

(01:26:21):
I've got I've dug some pewter buttons before.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
What do you think is your favorite relic?

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Is it? That copper copper?

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Yeah? That relics are kind of you know, odd, just
some stuff is really you know, it just somebody else
that probably wouldn't make any sense, but you know, it's
just how old it is and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Yeah, to us, it makes sense, you know, just the history.
You're sitting there holding something that's that old. Just you
can't even wrap your head around it. Sometimes I've got
to talk about it. I've got to talk about the
elephant in the room. I just got to bring it
up on your back wall, Bill Am. I looking at

(01:27:18):
bayonets and a sword.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
Actually that's a bayonets hanging and there's actually two swords now,
one one of them, one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Oh my god, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
I was checking it out up there, and I'm just like,
is that what?

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Oh? Oh, it's full, it's complete. Sure, yeah, look at that.
Oh beautiful. Now do you get that at the military show.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
No, I actually bought this back in the sixties. And yeah, no,
not sixty told the seventies. But guy at work who
was working with in uh N c R. He had
this as his saber and three bayonets. He wanted sixty

(01:28:20):
dollars for it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Sixty dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
I couldn't get it out fast enough. And this one
here is a musician's uh stoord. I actually won that
really count Uh, Terry Smith put on, I had toke

(01:28:48):
token to that won this one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Do you go to many events, Bill, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Not as many now because there's as many and not
in the fact that I don't have, you know, anybody.
I got my brother to go with us in some places,
but you know, he's still working, so he can't get
off all a lot of him. So used to you know,

(01:29:17):
back in the eighties nineties, and that weird hit probably
twenty thirty hunts a year when you seem like some
week you know, yours summers when we was on gone
almost every weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Do you wish c Wppo was still around. I've only
heard about.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
That run, yeah, and I those were really fun hunts.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Yeah, I'd only heard about him, and I wish that
they were still around so i'd get a chance to
go home.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Yeah. I missed the first one and then I was
at the rest of them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Yeah, we out, Bill, We're getting close to the end.
I did want to kind of read a comment that
came in from Heavy Metal Detectors Kentucky. He sent a
real nice comment about you, and he just said, Bill,
I want to publicly thank you for being one of
the kindest detectors in the hobby. You're always friendly to
everyone and always make others feel welcome. Thank you, sir.

(01:30:21):
That's a very good tribute to uh, you know, to
you there, Thank you there heavy metal Detectors Kentucky. Have
you been out detecting with him before?

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Uh? Maybe if I knew what his name was. Yeah,
you know, I have a feeling I probably met him
more than one time. Sure, you just don't know him
as that Yeah, I just don't know him as that
number or that uh name?

Speaker 5 (01:30:50):
Yeah, well cool, yeah, yeah he uh yeah, I think
his name is Stuart mmm uh huh uh yeh.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Name is named the Stewart Maybe not, maybe not. We
have so many people that they send me messages and
I'm like, oh, that's who you are, you know, Oh
you're Relic Jedi or oh you know yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
Over the years, yeah, I know that you know who
they are, know whether you know tween name is yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Yeah, well cool, Bill. You've been a great guest. I
know that hour and a half goes by really fast.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
We've enjoyed getting to know you better and and and
talking about your career in this hobby and uh, I think, well, well,
if there's anything you want to party us with some
words of wisdom, uh, you know about the detecting hobby
and you know, give some tips to people what they
should do. The floor is yours, and then what we'll
do is we'll put you back down in the green

(01:32:01):
room Tony and Iland in the show, and then we'll
say our goodbye is off air.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
If that's okay, Well, I think you just yo, when
you go out digging, make sure you fill your holes.
Make sure even if you're in the woods or something
like that, you know, make sure you always try to
make it look as good as it was before you

(01:32:26):
started digging. You know, take out your trash and just
you know, get permissions and yeah, yeah, just keep on digging.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Yeah yeah, Sure is a lot of fun. And boy
we take a lot of lessons from you being involved
in it for this many years, right, Tony, Like yeah, yeah,
Like what's gonna happen when we can say that we've
been into the hobby for fifty years?

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Like fifty years?

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
Yeah, I told you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Still got forty two more to go until I get
to there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
That's right, right, I mean, Bill, though you must have
seen so many changes over the years with technology, the
amount of people that are into it, you know what
I mean, a lot of changes probably you've seen.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Yeah, I actually went from b phone.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Photo like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
A computer.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Yep. Yeah, right, that's what it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
Used to be a muffler on his stick and now
that's a computer on his stick.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
Yeah, basically what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Bill marsh added to your to your son off and
he says, and stay out of Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
He enforcer.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
He's the enforcement. Come to Ohio. He's at the border.
He's at turning your chunks for metal detectors. I could
see it. Well, So all right, Bill, thank you sir
for coming on with us. Yepsen, hang off for a second,
hang out for just a second. We'll end the show.

(01:34:14):
Great job, buddy, appreciate you being on with us.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
That was good stuff. That's awesome. I'm so glad that
we finally got him on. And yeah, we could go
another hour and a half. I mean we didn't even
talk about it. You barely touched on it. You know
how much it's changed. I want to get into that stuff,
seeing the difference of the machine, seeing you know, just
the community, how social media has changed everything, like all

(01:34:43):
those kind of different things you just got. It's just
what a what a great guy. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
That's the first time I've heard too about the community
back then. Like I've heard a lot of stories from
our Like so, our club, Eureka Treasure Hunters Club been
around since nineteen seventy three, and we have a lot
of long time detectorists in our club. They've been doing
it for a long time. And when you talk to them,
they talk about what they used to do and what

(01:35:10):
machines they've used, and they used to detect here and there,
and they used to detect there. But the first time
I've heard a story from Bill there about it was
part of this gang, the Red Leg Grang, you know
what I mean. That's so cool because it shows you
that there was a community around back there that you know,
would maybe it's very unique for back then to create

(01:35:32):
this little gang of detectorists. Nowadays you have it like
quarter Order in his group or yeah, yeah, well those
are just you know, those are just people that are
doing what Bill did back in the day. I think
we should start up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
The Red Leg.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
I told you I can't wear those.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
Throwback to Bill when you start to oh man, what
a what a great guy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
Yeah, and he did say he did say, I'm heading
out there, uh mid mid June here, and I reached
out the first thing, you know, I I reached out
when I when we made plans to head back there.
I'm going back there for for some personal things. And uh,
once I carved out some time, and I said, I
need to get a hold of the Bills and I

(01:36:24):
want to meet up with them, and I just I
just want to be there, you know, and be able
to experience that firsthand with them and stuff. So yeah,
we're gonna hopefully meet up and dig and and uh
we'll have maybe maybe I'll have some stories too. I'll
find the other seven pieces to his pieces of eight.
That's that's my Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
Yeah, you had invited me to go out there with you,
and I just don't think I can make it. But
how fun would that?

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Yeah, I'm also gonna meet up with the Thin Blue
Diggers and Detection Connection. We'll dig a little bit with
them too. So yeah, Bill, it's a great bio.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Rock Hunter said, Yep, come to Ohio. We check for
guns at the border, and if you don't have one,
we give you one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
I'm in shoot right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
That's great stuff. Man, all right, what you going on?
We'll get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Yep. Just uh. You can find me anywhere on social media,
from Instagram to rumble, uh, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, fifty two
eighty adventures. Follow me over there, leave me some comments,
talk with me, send me some messages. Love talking with
you guys. And uh, come next week, We've got we've
got one more show next week, and then we've got

(01:37:35):
Rush to the Rockies. We're gonna have tons of live interviews,
live coverage, just a whole bunch of fun through the
whole weekend. So uh, look for us next following weekend.
Out there a Rush to the Rockies. It's a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Yep. Excellent. Yeah, you can also find Tony at redleg
Gang dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
He's over there, dude. I had to come back for
that one. No, no, cake, I was gonna let you
just go off into the sunset, and you had to
make it because I know what will happen. We'll we'll
wear those red polyester leggings and then you're gonna just
start swinging. The day is too after that, that's just
not happening with.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
With a hat on your head. I won't talk any
more stuff about you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Well, maybe I will.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
But hey, everyone, thanks for joining us for Elix Radio.
It was a lot of fun having Bill on. Uh
check us out Relics Radio. Hey every Wednesday night right
here on YouTube. You have it over at Tony's channel
at fifty two eighty adventures and on my channel over
at Adventures in Dirt. But no matter where you watch from,
we enjoy you being here. Always live in the chat.

(01:38:42):
Come join us. If you're just lurking and listening in
or watching, come join us in the chat. It's a
lot of fun as you can see. But find me
anywhere at Adventures in Dirt and check out Rush to
the Rockies. You got about another week and a half
to go, Come on out, get a team together for
Masters of Metal. Come on out and bring your should
be a lot of fun. Everyone, have a great week.

(01:39:02):
If you got this weekend, go find the good stuff
and tell us about it. We'll see you next week.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Grandma's boke that too. Thank you so much for listening
to Relix Radio. We will see you back here next
week for another exciting guest.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Until then, get out and dig it all

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