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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hold on, give me a second.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Wait, wait a minute, hold on, i'se got it. Where's
this one?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Go?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hold on? Hold on, wait a minute. Hey everyone DK
here from Adventures and There. Welcome to Relics Radio, where
we're getting a little bit of a late start with
some technical difficulty tonight. You know we do. We gotta
have our grandkids come over sometimes to show us how
to hook this stuff up. And like Tony and I
always say, we are professionals. You can see it right there.
(00:33):
I'm gonna bring on my other professional right now. You're
fifty two eighty Adventures himself. The professional you had me rolling.
Oh my gosh, I did not expect to. I'll just
let you all know. He did not tell me he's
going to do that. And we came out of that
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intro and he's fumbling around.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I was laughing. I almost fell off my chair. That
was hilarious. Well that's what we were checking intro. I
like that.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How much trouble we were having with our wires and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I just had to that's hilarious, man, Good job.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Another Wednesday. Huh it is another Wednesday. Yeah, I'm getting
I'm getting used to saying Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I rarely say Thursday anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'll call you out when you mess up. Don't worry
about that.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I know you will.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Hey, welcome back to sunny Colorado, well sometimes sunny Colorado.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah. We had some storms yesterday, man, big storms.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Right this week?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You got this week? Did you get some You got
some hail, though, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We got a lot of hale. Twice twice this week.
We've been woken up at three am with an alert
on our phone saying red alert, red alert, softball sized
hail in your area, you know what I mean. And
I'm like, oh, I'm gonna wake up in the morning.
My garden is gonna be gone, but thankfully it and
it's missed us. It'sit all around us, but it's missed us.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay. I was worried you're gonna wake up to Uh.
I've seen pictures of like broken windshields and yeah, you know,
the hail going right through the windshields. I mean, it
was it was crazy. We got some we got some
heavy rain, but no hail down here. So I was
all right, And I don't have a garden, so we're good.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's been brilliantly hot though, I mean I think We're
expecting one hundred degree weather next.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Week, and yeah, into this week it's been pretty warm. Yeah, yep.
But you know what, the one good thing about this
we do not have humidity, Like freaking state of Ohio has.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Ohio has humidity. I've never been to Ohio, so I
have no idea.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Oh my lord, I was. I don't think. I don't
think I've sweat that much in years, and I'm not exaggerating.
It was probably seventy degrees out and my shirt was
completely sopping wet I had. I had sweat pouring, not dripping,
it was pouring off my face. It was stupid, absolutely stupid.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You were just out there right Like maybe everyone doesn't know,
but you just took a trip to o Hi. I
did tell about that trip.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I don't want to bring much about it, but yeah,
so yeah, I made it out there and got to
dig with a whole bunch of people. Got some people
actually in the chat that I got to dig with
thin Blue diggers. Nick. I went out digging with him
and Don from Detection Connection. We went out on Saturday
this past Saturday. Had a great time. Found some decent
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stuff for sure, some interesting fines and and just had
a really good time catching up with them. It's tough
because they hunt a lot in farm fields, so you know,
they're like, you're coming in June. You know that they
plant corn in April, and may you know that? Right,
So we got to hunt some farmhouses. But uh, you know,
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they kept telling me, you gotta you gotta get your
your podcast host over there, DK come out after Halloween.
We'll get out in those fields and we'll get on
some uh the Ohio Wheedy's. You know they call the
large Sense the Ohio Wheedyes. No, maybe we can do that.
That's yeah, that's some notice. You know, I can plan
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for that. Yeah, that would be a lot of fun. Boy,
you were you were sending me text you were sending
me messages of saying how much fun you were having
and how cool it is a great where you were
digging with and oh man, you know I made a
post on on my face on fifty two eighty on Facebook.
The trip really honestly became, uh, the five guys that
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I got to dig with, and we're gonna actually have
one of them on as a guest tonight, so we'll
maybe talk a little bit about the weekend. But I
also got to meet the two bills that are always
supporting us, that are always in the chat, Ohio Relic
Hunter and Bill Hayes. So I got to meet those
guys in person.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Did Bill Did Bill Hayes wears red pants?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You know what I told? I said, I'm so disappointed
in him. He did not wear his red pants. That's
the only reason I wanted to go dig with him.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And if you don't know what we're talking about, it
invite you to go back in the history here at
Relics Radio and find the interview with Bill Hayes. Hands
that was so and I'm glad he shared that in
pictures with us. I was pictures too, Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And then I got to so real quick before we
bring our guest on, I just wanted to say before
he can he can, you know, interrupt me in anything
before we bring him on. So I you know, I've
talked with Bill the Bills before they're here on the
podcast all the time. I talked with Nick and don
you know, offline and things like that. Now I had
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some free time and I reached out to Ohio History
Hunter and I know him from Facebook. He's very, very
very busy on Facebook, which I absolutely love. And he's
in northeastern Ohio, which is where I grew up, and
I just reached out on a whim. I'm like, hey, listen,
I've got I've scheduled, you know, out of my four days,
I've got two days that aren't scheduled. Would you have
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an opportunity maybe to take me out. I'm willing to
do anything with you because he's busy with a whole
bunch of different stuff. Sure you know what he did.
He goes, you know what, give me a second, I'll
set something up. Within like an hour, he goes, all right,
We're meeting Friday at this time at this location. I'm
gonna take you up to some sites. Just just jumped,
just jumped, took me out. I mean, it just just
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an incredible I mean, we know how we talk about
this community being so incredible, and it was incredible to
meet Scott dig with him share stories, and I wanted
to I wanted it to him to come on the
podcast and really share to kind of everybody that we
that we touch on the podcast about what he does
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for not only in metal type to community, but the
history community in Ohio as well. He's very, very busy
with a lot of different things. And in fact, he
messaged me as I was driving home and says, hey, uh,
just let you know I might be busy. I'll be
very busy tonight with the podcast. In this he's got
an interview on the news or something coming up. This
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reporter wants to talk to him, and he's like, oh, yeah,
I'll take care of it all. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Ton That's awesome man. That yeah. Great people in this
community for sure, man. And yeah, your stories like that.
So absolutely, let's bring them on and then maybe we
shout some people out after we bring them on. Initially,
maybe we can shout or do you want to shout
some people out real quick?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Now, let's let's bring them on. All right, Relics Radio,
We've got mister Ohio history hunter, Scott Power on with
us tonight. Scott. How's it going, Bud?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
How's it going? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Thanks for joining us, Scott. We appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Apologized for taking so long.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Guys. Uh, Tony nowsane first day and uh, I don't
know if I'm coming or going him.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
No, you're you're jumping on the hand grenade. I'm gonna
I'm gonna come clean. I sent the link to a
Gmail account with no l at g m ai dot
com and obviously that's not gonna go to Gmail. So
you know you're texting me, You're like, I didn't get
anything gom I goam i dot com. Gami dot com
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apparently is not a proper email address. So the the
late start tonight is completely my fault. And uh, I
appreciate you being opening and at least coming on with us.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Anytime.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Of course, we're gonna have some guy Joe jump on
from goomy dot com. You'd be like, hey, you guys,
send me this link.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Who knows where I went?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
To keep your eye in that green room down there, Tony,
that's right, yeah, yeah, yeh hey.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Uh. First off, I want you to kind of introduce yourself,
tell everybody who you are, what you do. They may
not be familiar with you, and just kind of give us,
you know, a little short about who you are.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
All right. My name is Scott power Or.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I created the Ohio History Hunter about four years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
In the area that.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I live, a lot of the farms were being bought
up and bulldozed over and sub divisions going in. I
didn't like seeing the fact that I knew there was
history being lost, and so I decided to create the
Ohio History Hunter. Work with the communities and see if
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I couldn't uncover some lost relics before they're as under
asphaltic concrete or under someone's house. And later on will
I would chance to talk about some things under houses.
But yeah, I work with mayors, townships, historical societies, museums, businesses,
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private property owners. I do a lot of history oracle sites. Uh.
I was asked to go down to Glendale Cemetery and Akarin,
my co hunter, and I went down to the chapel
for the Soldier's Chapel there and detected around that chapel.
They wanted to see if there was anything of relic,
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you know, significance there. So that was one of the
things that we've done, scuba diving drones. Uh are you
are you guys taking that out? We got we got
a severe hang on, we got a severe storm coming
through my alert.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
All right, I'm back.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I'm sorry, I reporter calling in trying to get you there, right.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But but yeah, four years that I've had Ohio History
Hunter page by the Lucky enough to build a reputation.
I do what I say, and I say what I do,
and I am you know, I've already found pretty much
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so all the coin. There's a few things I would
like the metal Detective find, but I've already had that joy.
So like when you called me up and said, you know, hey,
can I go medal?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You know, at this point, in just four years, I
get more enjoyment out of seeing others get the enjoyment
out of it. I still love it, and I'll keep
doing it for many years. But that's like when I
work with my program. I have Youth Adventures program where
I'll metal detect with autistic and down syndrome kids. One
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of the gentlemen got sponsored by Bounty hundred Metal Detectors
as a matter of that, so you know that worked
out pretty good.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And Scott, what's that called youth What.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Youth Adventures program?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I don't have a site or anything set up for it.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
It's I'll give a brief description.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Anyone free autistic or down syndrome that's into metal detecting,
or maybe into metal detecting with not knowing. Uh. We
have free hunts where the local community of metal detectors
once again be in a great community, donate coins that
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they find that they might not want the key or
are willing to donate. And we have a field we
call the Field of Dreams and we go out and
see the field and thanks to Bounty hundred Metal Detectors,
they have donated five metal detectors, youth metal detectors for
us to use and the families can come out and
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and see if this is possibly something that they would
be interested in investing in without investing in it. And
it's also a therapy, believe it or not, the autistic
children who normally kind of have maybe outburst and all
seemed to calm down. They're more concentrated there. And you're
showing some pictures of the autists. That's an autistic young
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man right there. These kids love this and they are
very good. That's my buddy right there. He was just
on Fox eight News in Cleveland with me. Uh we
were talking about his sponsorship and how good of a
hunter is. That's that's mister Aaron. That's my buddy, all right.
Looks like yeah, yes, sir, that's he. He is very good,
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believe it or not.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
He is very good, excellent well that what made you
kind of get into that and start that. I mean,
there's it's very commendable of you.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I in two thousand and thirteen, I believe it was
took off on a ten thousand mile bicycle track to
raise awareness for autistic Autistic Bicycle group. I can't remember
exactly what the group name was, but it was for
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recycling bicycles and donating bicycles to autistic children and all
that might not have the ability to get one, and
also working with them teaching them how to ride and all.
So in my thirteen states, I made it through. I
ended up getting hit by a car and that was
the end of that. So I just I just I
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don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Again.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You know, when you when you've done a lot of
things in your life, and I mean a whitewater cave, kayak, parachuting,
scuba diving, I mean I've.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Done a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
And there's these kids that like mister Aaron, that man
has the ability with down syndrome and has the ability
to metal detect what I feel like as good as
I can metal detect. And it's just amazing this. I
love sitting back and just watching the smile on these
kids' faces and and to me that that now is
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is the is the true treasure. There's a lot of
things you can find metal detecting, but I found that
seeing these kids smile and the joy that they get
out of it, and like I said, one hundred percent
free parents are there with you know, they can try
out a metal detector. So far everyone has showed up
with a metal detector.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Wow. Yeah. When we when I was out there and
detecting with you, Scott, you know, I had talked Relicks
Radio is absolutely gonna be sending you some stuff, uh
for that for that type of event. You know, our
podcast is a lot about the community, bringing the community together,
asking you know, questions. You know, it's about all of
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us in the community. And we've had some great comments
already in the in the chat here about why you're
doing what you know, what you've done, and we want
to be able to support you as well. So you know,
we'll be sending you some stuff that you can that
you know, you can give away, you can use for
the event and those kind of different things, because it's amazing.
I mean, not only is it, uh you know, getting
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getting you know, people that are challenged in some different
ways involved in some other things. That's the next generation
of all of us treasure hunters. You know, I don't
care what kind of challenges they have. You know, they
they're they're gonna be carrying it on. And you know,
you being able to support them like that absolutely incredible.
And you've got great turnout and a great event overall.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
So well, if you go to any of the Historical
Society's you will see that they're only older people. I mean,
you don't have the youth involvement, you know. And so
what I try and do with my page is make
it fun, make it entertaining, to get the kids out
of you know, get them out from in front of
the computer, get them outside, you know, go look for bottles,
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go look for old bricks, go metal detect team. Just
get outside and go enjoy a park or something.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, agreed, I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, it's important for sure. It Uh you know, there's
not enough, there's not enough young people. Look at that.
I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
That's the modern day pirates. A plug for them guys. Uh.
They I called them up and I said, look, I'm
putting on this event for the kids. Uh five of
them are four of them showed up three of them
showed I forget anyway, A group of them showed up
and they were standing around and I handled them a metal.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Detector and they were actually finding stuff. So there you
got cool.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
If people are listening Scott right now, what do you
say is that? And they kind of want to help
support what you're doing with these kids in this youth program.
What's about?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, let me let me go ahead and start right here.
I did not take donations. I did not want anybody's money.
That is not what everything is for. And my research team,
the OAHH research team, we essentially handled the funds. Now,
we do have outside guys that come in and they'll say, look,
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I've got some silver coins or whatever I want to donate.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
One of.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
One of my clients that you hunted with gave that
on their property. They gave me a bag of coins
for the hunt. I mean, that's things that I can
put in the ground, relics, so you know, something small
trinkets or whatever I can put in the ground for
these kids to find. That's that's in. Now that they
got my field up plowed corn growing in it, I
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kind of need a new spot. I did have permission
up at one of the beaches in Cleveland. But the
permission that I got didn't go far enough up the
food chain.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
So when I.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Showed up to have my first youth adventures, uh, we
were literally shut down in the park a lot. So
it was rather embarrassing, and I'm sure there was some
people really upset with me, but you know, things happened.
I did the best I could and round it's working
and we're having, you know, kids come out and do
this good.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
This is the first time we've had Yon, Scott, and
you just brushed over it. So I have to back
up and ask you. Did you say, Ohio History Hunter
research team.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yes, sir, I do have a research team.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
No, no, stop right there, Tony. How come we don't
have a team, a research team.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Sorry to stop you there, Scott, but I don't know
we need a research team.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I Todd Holtzman's been with me for three years. He
specializes and doing bell towers and working on the bells
and several states he goes up into the bell towers
does whatever he does with the bells.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
It's quite amazing.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
He took me, matter of fact, in downtown Cleveland, the
brick church, some church he took me and I have
the only video of us climbing up in the tower
of that church there on the square at downtown Cleveland.
So that's on my page. I'm not just trying to
plug my page. But you know, if you wanted to
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see that, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
But yeah, I didn have.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Justin Lynn, which he's the founder of lake Erie Fluorescent
Mineral Hunters.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Uh, he's my mineralist.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
He specializes in fossils, uh, geology, minerals, my rock guy.
Usually I lose him from metal detecting. He's off crawling
through someone's creek or something. Then there's uh Troy, you
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got to hunt with Troy, And Troy is one amazing
metal detectrist. He specializes in civil war and he's one
of the guys that does researching the old maps and
like that, and he'll go out into the middle of
a corn field and pull up silver coins. I still
it's kind of like, you know, was that a ghost
or not a ghost? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I can't explain it. But you know, I don't have
all I don't have that come a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
He he was actually at a campgrown he came in
hunted with us for a couple hours, but he went
back to a campground. He was out there prospecting.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yes, he's a gold hunter, Ohio gold hunter.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, so we might have to have him on so
we can talk about prospecting and a lot of supporters
that do that as well.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, he's they he's in the talk. I'm not sure
if it's the Discovery Channel or who it is. So
I may be overstepping my bounds and talking about it,
but uh, I think next year he might be going
up into Canada doing a gold thing for a possible
TV show.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I don't know, Oh, into Canada, Okay, yeah, I know
some people up there filming some stuff. Interesting. Well, best
of luck to him if he does. I tell you
you sounded. I got a good a good team, Tony.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I wanted to cover, you know, more basis than just
everybody battle the text and that's all we do.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Well, when we went to the Serpent Mound, that was
it was a good round area of of researchers to
have for that trip.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yes, we touch base on the Serpent Mound. Do we
want to talk about that? I have no idea what
you're talking about when you say the Serpent Mound and
many of our listeners might not either.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You want to Yeah that bit okay, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
One day my phone rang and I answered it and
it was Jeffrey Wilson. Jeffrey Wilson, as multibooks author on
Surfit Mount, he's renowned expert on the Mount, contacted me
and asked me if I'd like to come down and
muddle detect the original Serpent Mount farm property, the old
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homestead foundation.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Area there so offsite, not on the park.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
So we went down and he gave us a tour
and we met some other people, researchers down there, and
they told us some things that just, I don't know,
blew my mind. Really. I think all four of us
rode home kind of shell shocked. Not a lot of talking,
and no one talked about it. You know. It was
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kind of like you knew everybody was thinking about it,
but wasn't nobody talking about it. It was it was
a real shock to know that things like that do happen.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, describe to us. I mean I grew up in
Ohio and we were taught this kind of stuff in
elementary school and middle school. What what was? What is
or what is the super Serpent Mound in peebles.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Well they they say it's a solar alignment deal and all,
and I mean it could be. I didn't have anyone
really down there that said that it was any different.
You know, you hear a lot of stories about at
nighttime it glows.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
And h weird things.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
But uh, I'll jump right on into the to the
point is, Yeah, they they did some work down there
and had to do I don't know, about two hundred
foot of trenching to run some.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Water lines or drain lines or something. And they didn't
uncover a few hundred or a few thousand artifacts. They
uncovered tens of thousands of artifacts. And my team stood
there and talked to a person who stood there and
watched what was happening. And people were just picking up
stuff and putting it in their bondy.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And and you're talking relics, you're talking Native American, relative
American uttery. Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
They found several more bodies. There's uh, there's two bodies
that are under the walkway. A. I don't want to
give away too much because there's a book coming out
from somebody, so I'm gonna be careful in everything I say.
But in the uh, there was a light ar done
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on the head of or the egg of the uh,
the serpent there or what they call the egg, and
there's definitely something in the dead center of it that's
showing up on light arm. They had a sinkhole that
opened up near the tail of the serpent, about one hundred,
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one hundred and fifty feet away from it. And the
first thing I said was what did they find in it?
He said exactly And he said nothing. They backed dump
trucks up and filled it in. He goes, but there's
another one that's getting ready to open up. So it's
the museum. If you've ever been there, they have the
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dioramas and all like that, and some of the relics know.
Now the museum's just signs. Now it's pretty much so
all it is. I mean it was, I mean going there.
I don't want to discourage anyone from going there. The
dates on the signs are wrong, but I don't want
to discourage anyone from going there. It is an amazing
It is amazing. It's just the story behind it and
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the cover.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Ups and such.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It's just to actually see it instead of it being oh,
that's a conspiracy theory. No, and even off off of
the park there human remains are being found. So you
go out of the park anywhere and a quarter mile
around Circarcit Mound and you can find body it remains.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Wow, it's an interesting site for sure, and there's a
lot of history to it, a lot of unknown you know.
And one of the questions I asked you was, you know,
what does the state say about all these different things?
And you kind of dropped a bombshell on me. What
what did you say about.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
That that's private property?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah? How crazy? Is that? Something? Something? Again, you know,
the historical side of it, you would think that maybe
the state would have some sort of involvement in it.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Well, now the state that that's gone when we when
we did the reparations and all on. When it comes
to the Native Americans, we now for Separate Mound. There's
a gentleman and that Native American out in Utah who
makes the decisions on what goes on in Ohio and
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Serpent Mount.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Interesting. It's rough, it's difficult and h.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Well, working with anything Native American, it's it seems like
it's kind of uh, I don't know it people kind
of taboo, I guess, and all because I mean I
had one guy called at tell me that I could
go out onto a property. He said, you can only
go this one day and you can never go back again.
He said, we plowed over an Indian mouth and the
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post is on my page of the tailgate of my
truck and a five hour period is just covered with arrowheads, tools,
workings and all like that. That just crazy, And you know,
I called the guy. I did call the guy up
after that, and I was like, look, can I go back?
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And he said no, So I guess no means no,
But yeah, I do locate mounds. But yeah, it seems
that when you start talking about Native America mounds, a
lot of even property owners kind of get, you know
about it?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Is it unique? Like is it the only one shaped
like a serpent that we know of or.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well of it? You know, as I believe it's the
only one like that. I could be wrong, but there
is someone said, like I said, no expert on any
of this, but I thought someone said that they had
found possibly another one in Ohio that I don't know,
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But no, I think this is definitely the only one
in Ohio, and I believe the only one in the world.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
But again, I'm no expert. Now it is.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
They were trying to get it on Serpent Mount on
the World Heritage lest there. So I mean it's you know,
it's it's definitely a remarkable spot. And I just wanted
to say, I mean, and you'll at the park pay
The parking is like eight dollars up it, yeah, even
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though it was supposed to be free to the public.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Right. Yeah. I just pulled it up just to kind
of see if there's any other ones worldwide. I didn't
come up with anything, but it says it's the world's
largest surviving effigy mound, a type of earthwork in the
shape of an animal built by prehistoric Native Americans. It's
a massive snake like structure stretching one than three hundred
and forty eight feet long. Is considered a National Historic Landmark.
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While the exact origins and purpose of the mound are
still debated, it is believed to have been built by
the fort Ancient culture around ten seventy CE, though some
evidence suggests it could be older.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
So now that was the reason why there's discrepancy is
they did they did three core samples, and one core
sample came back with one date. The next one came
back with a really old date. Then the next one
came back and it matched the other one, and they said, well,
right there, we're done. We don't have to do any
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more testing. We have two that matched up, even though
they also had a core sample that came up with
a much older date. So that's and and there's there's
not been any other real research work done down there,
and they won't let you. Boy, I ran into some
mess just posting that I got permission for my wife
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to go down there, and I had emails and phone calls,
and I mean they you just thought I'd set a
fire to a church or something. I mean, I've never
come across anything like that. I mean, I deal with
with some crazy stuff sometimes, but in a lot of
things I do is also not on Facebook or any
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of the other pages. Not everybody's into the public and
sharing what's going on on their property. So I mean,
unfortunately I do some pretty cool stuff that I.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Don't get to share.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
But you know, I still enjoy what I do, love
sharing it, and it seems like the people enjoy what
I share.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, You've got a lot of followers over
on Facebook there.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's like that a lot I think a lot of people.
You know, we run into that a lot too. You know,
both Tony and I are like social media people and
we like to share what we can. But yeah, you
don't plan owners. Homeowners is to be like no, you
know what, and rather you're not no problem, you know, Yeah,
always a conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
To be had.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
But well, the thing is that you're asking permission, so
you can't get upset about anything.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
If you're told no, you just got to accept it.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I mean, you know, it's kind of hard to go
around and say, hey, can I do holes in your
front yard, especially if some guy who's got a you know,
a pretty decent yard.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
First thing he's gonna say is get off my yards.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Actually, I and I'll share this because maybe maybe somebody
out there is having a hard time finding places to hunt.
And all I built Ohio History Hunter by first going
to a historical society Litchfield, Ohio. They had a circle
park there, and I went to the township and I
into historical society and I said, look, can I meddle
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detect that everything I find I'll give to you. Sure,
they gave me the permission. Then I went out the
meddle It ended up being like seventy almost eighty dollars
and change, silver coins and all, which I in some relics.
I put into a nice display case and all, and
then took it to the township one of their meeting
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nights and filmed me going before the town and the
trustees there at the Township and presenting them what I found.
Instantly helped build my credit do and what you know,
posting what I was doing and all and showing that
you know, I'm And this is another thing a lot
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of you probably won't like. I don't keep what I find.
I don't. Everything goes to the property owner. Now I
have property owners that say, you know what, that's cool,
and I just wanted to.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
See keep it.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
And when I go like Litchfield or Hankley, which you
went and hunted with me, I went on their community
page and I posted that a I'm the Ohio history hunter.
I'm doing work with your historical society, which we did
because Todd was putting in their clock. And you know,
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if you have an eighteen hundreds property and wouldn't mind
me or my team coming out and medal detecting and
seeing what's fine, you get to keep it. I've got
over fifty eight or just just in Hinkley, Ohio. So
you know that's why I wasn't too It was just
the fact that that the wife with the wife gonna
let me take a little time off of work.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
That's always the biggest challenge that was.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
That was the main call was can I do this?
And I did fire. I hope she's not watching him,
but she was like, well, why is he coming in?
Is he coming to see you? I said, oh, yeah,
he's flying in just to see me. Well if he's
doing that, then yeah, you need to take the time
off and take that man out all day after what
I needed there, you go.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I absolutely wanted to come in and visit you. I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
You're Morgan, welcome to.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I got a picture there of us. Uh after we
got done detecting and everything.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Like I said, he pulled that dime out.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I was just.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Gonna say that, Yeah, yeah, what's that? I found a barber.
Yeah yeah, I found a barber, dime and a couple
works and wow some nice Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Well you did a good job because I let me
tell you, I hunted that front yard.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
There, but you had some distractions.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, that's what I was going to get to the
I guess you would say. Client had a grandson that
was going into the first grade, and so he said
that my buddy there could get a good clean hunt.
And I kind of did the distract work, and me
and him dug up matchbox cars in the front.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yonder, and then you came behind me and got ahold.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
No, he was a really cool kid.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah there he is. All right, Yeah, I'm doing work
for them. I'm I got the community together. They got
heavy equipment and everything for me, and we're going to
be moving at top a list call sandstone property marker
or whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It's about eight foot tall by eighteen inches by eighteen
inches and we're going to dig that out and move
it because the road department's coming through it, putting around
about and they're just going to come and bulldoze it over.
So that's another one, was the community projects. And now
I got on that while you were metal detecting.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I know I was. I was really excited to hear that,
especially in the landowners she had she had a house.
Uh generation amazing when you meet those kind of kind
of people that have such a strong tide to the
community for as long as they've been there. It's incredible
to talk with them and deal with them and then
help them out. Now they had they had the corner house,
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they had kind of the garage or the gas station
next to it, and diagonally they had this open field
and that's where that obelisk was. And she said, I
don't know what you can do about this, and she
took you over their show it to you. And you
know what, I don't Okay, I don't have that Nope.
But looking though, Yeah, she had asked you, you know what,
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I don't know what you can do to have held
me out, and I know you posted some stuff and
then boom you had people that were jumping with heavy
equipment right away trying to help you out.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yep. Yeah, and and and that's great, you know it.
That's that says a lot about a community when you
ask for help and people show up or you know,
or say what can I do? And uh, you know,
I try and help anybody out you know that you
know needs it. You know, That's why I don't. I'm
not out here trying to race and be better than
anybody else.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
I'm I'm definitely. Not no expert in anything.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Uh maybe in promoting myself, but you know, I just
try and motivate people to get outside having a venture.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Did that obelist have any writing on it or anything, But.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
He's all hand chiseled and all he'll have to You'll
have to go on my page just it's it wouldn't
be too far back of a post that I had
done it.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
But yeah, no, it just has to hand chiseled.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
It's kind of deck or to And someone in the
community commented that they believe that there's more on that
property and the Historical Society is going to be doing
the paper work, background research and see if they can't
find out anything about.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
What these are.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
I'll be posting updates and pictures and videos of it
on my page for you people to keep up with it.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Wow awesome, And I'll post the link to Scott's Facebook
page here in the chat. It's also in the description
of the of the podcast here too. So if you
guys go over there check scout out one hundred and
seven thousand followers over there on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
That numbers going down. I don't I mean anybody at
works in this. I've got so many fake accounts on
my page like you I noticed here? Yeah, can you
send me a friend request? I delete delete Elite. But yeah,
I mean I've I've built that following by working for it,
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believe me.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, that's a good support though. Right.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You talk about people coming together when you ask for
things and coming like I when I first met Tony,
I was just on this forums and I was like,
I've got this park. They've found quite a bit of
silver in there. And Tony immediately was like, hey man,
how come I'll come help me do that out?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Man?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
What a guy that that's that's so you know, so cool.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, And and he he invites me up to his
his area there and the turd. The first first thing
he finds is a silver coin. Wants it to me, Hey,
look what I found? Uh silver coin?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Ever, and he's like, you're not gonna say anything about
the dog tags.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
The dog tags? We we can certainly talk about the
dog tag.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, so the first house and we won't give away
too much information because it's number one. It's an incredible
site that you have permission forties. Yeah. Yeah, so we're
out there. Did I tell you it was humid? I
don't know if I had told that part of the
story's humid.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
There.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Everybody's kind of going off in their own direction and everything,
and I kind of made make an orbit around the
outside of the the mode area. There's like some woods
that kind of circle around the house and the property,
and I'm kind of going right at the edge of
the the woods there, and I come around the corner
and I hear great tone. I'm thinking, man, I'm gonna
give myself a silver corder. It sounded great, screaming. I
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dig up there's like three dog tags all together on
the same ring, like dog tags for a dog, not
it's not soldier dog tags. And I look at it
and it says like twenty ten. I'm like, ah, okay, well,
you know, not very not very old, you know, and
dogs are out running around the loser dog tags and
all that kind of stuff. So I didn't think anything
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of it. And of course, you know, at the end,
as we're getting ready to pack up and go around,
you know, to the to the next permission, and we
show the land owner everything and I said, oh, yeah,
I've got these dog tags too, and she says, oh, yeah,
that's where he buried, you know, brown dog or beady
or whatever. They black dog. Oh yeah, so I apparently,
I mean, uhhi rout hunter, you know dog grave. I
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didn't see any bones. There was no bones connected. There
was no collar like I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
But he got all the dog tags everyone.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I got them all absolutely because I'm going back over.
There wasn't any other tones left in there. I was
getting them all because I felt so bad.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Oh she was about it.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah black they black or black ear or something with
one of the.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Dogs BD yeah black dog.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Troy says. Troy says, yeah, it was black dog. But
but just it's kind of a funny story because's like,
I guess I should have told you guys about that.
And then I just felt bad because I'm like, oh,
dear lord, I just dug up this lady's dog. You
know she's gonna she's gonna kick Scott off the property.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I just screwed up the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Oh no, yeah, I got that permission. When she said
we first got there, I was like, this goes, I
don't care what you do.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
You do anything you.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Want to do.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
She property own like that man.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
The second permission was a fresh permission and that's the
one that Doubles was on. And she was the same way.
She's like anytime she goes, you know where the place is,
and uh, yeah, we showed up and it's an old
gas station and we're waiting on her to show up.
We're walking around the gas they said, there's these old
inflators everyone.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, old inslators, old bottles just sitting on the surface.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah. Oh my gosh. She was so cool, really really
nice location. Yeah, some history, but again that's a that's
a lando because you built out this this community. That's
a landolder that reached out to you, that said, hey,
I've got this property. You know you want to come
out to tech now.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Yeah, that was Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Both of those actually were contacting me and asking me
to come to their property. I very rarely will do
a cold knock or or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
I just something about going to someone's house and knocking
on the door, and in today's world, you know, you
never know what you're going to get answered the door.
But uh, it is a funny little joke on that
I've had. In the four years i've been doing this,
I've had two ladies schedule me to come out to
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the property and metal Detect.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
That the husband know anything about it find out.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, so that doesn't go well, you're just wanting to
medal detect.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
No.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
I was like, no, you're not.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
And I'm like, well, yes I'm not.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
I'm gonna argue with you.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
I've seen it go the other way too, you know
where the man is sure the males. The man's like,
oh my gosh, what have I gotten? You know, I'm
so I'm interested what you guys do, what you're gonna find?
And the wife comes home. They ain't digging in my yard.
They ain't digging in my flowers here.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
What are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (45:19):
I've got a hundred year old house here. And the
wife every time she comes home and I'm out in
the yard, she goes, why are you still metal detect
in the house. And every time I'll get I got
a new piece of equipment or whatever, like now I
got my fisher.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
I have seventy five out in the yard. And every
time I get something new, I find new stuff. So
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
It's a great machine that.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yeah, uh, dealing with Russ with Fisher and that's a
great guy right down in Texas.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Rust is a great guy. A really good guy.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
He reached out to me.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, he reached out to me and asked me, you know,
if I wanted a sponsorship. I was like sure, So
you know, we've had a couple of year relationship and
hopefully I'm doing right by Bounty Hunter and Fisher metal
detectors go to your local store online.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
They're good machines and Russ is a good guy for sure.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
I mean, I mean, yeah, you know, yeah, you can
go out. As matter of fact, that three d uh
metal detector I contacted them. Yeah right, because the one
that had the computer screen you can continue yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that nine thousand dollars they.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Didn't send you to.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Well. I asked first for our sponsorship, and then I asked, well,
I have good credit.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Do you do payment plans?
Speaker 3 (46:47):
And I was thinking four years, but now I'll be like, yeah,
two more payments and this metal detector will be mine
and it'll be three years outdated. Yeah, machines every year.
I mean, if if you go three or four years,
you know you you're kind of behind on the technology.
But I mean I started off with a with a
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cheap in metal detector, and I think anybody can use
a piece of jump and if you learn that machine
and practice I mean metal metal, but the sector is
going to pick that up.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
You just gotta figure out is that what you want
to dig?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Right? Yep? You got to figure out what the machine's
telling you and whether you dig it or not. Absolutely yep.
And And kind of speaking of of of where you
started out when you got interested in metal detecting, was
it kind of a metal techning type of thing or
was it the history that brought you into it? Like
how did you start out and what what? How did
everything evolve from there?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Uh? Well, I used to like fishing, so there there's
part of the reason. I mean, it's it's essentially dirt fishing.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
So I mean, yeah, very hard.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
I'm not I'm not looking for coins. I don't find
coins and sell coins or anything like that. I find
them and the property owner gets somewhere, I'll give them
to a kid if the property or.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
The lest we have them.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
So it's the it's got to be the history. But
I think it's the thrill of the hunt. I've got
this coming Sunday. The Strongsville Board of Education contacted me
in the Sunday, I will be going to look for
the time capsule.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
That they cannot find.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Yeah, so twenty five year time capsule and they think
they know the area, but they're not sure.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
So that's I mean, that's just one of the little
side things I get to do.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
It's you know, I have a little bit of a
A D. D problem and the not staying on one
thing and being able to.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Jump from like fighting you know, attorneys over two grave
eighteen hundred graves that they're fixing to build a house over,
or the next day you're metal detecting, you know, some
eighteen hundreds historical house for a museum, and the next
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day you're out, you know, chest deep in a river
recovering relics from an old sandstone quarry. There's so much
to do. I mean, how could you get bored when
there's so many angles that you can go at this.
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I mean, if you're in it for the history, go
out of the hundred plays. If you're in it for
the metal detecting, well that's great. I mean everybody loves
the metal detect don't they, I hope. But yeah, the
thrill of the hunt and the history of it is
why I did it.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, how much time have you spent sort of going
to historical society meetings and rubbing elbows with those folks
and other museums and such.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
Not as much as you would think I would have to.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
In fact, the Strongsville Historical Society because of the work
I'm doing in Strongsville, they will be meeting me on
site Sunday when I'm there at the school.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
I've done past projects with.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
The Historical Society there, But so far as having to
go to I mean, occasionally I'll get invited.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
Hey, we're having a dinner.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
We'd like to have you come out, and you know, yeah,
because I mean, if I'm doing work in their community,
they want to meet me. They want to talk to me,
they want to know what's going on, and that's cool.
I have no problem with that. And I get to
eat some pretty good fool food sometimes, right right.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Got to go out to Millersburg too. There's good. How
much buffet out there? It wasn't it wasn't Millersburg, but
we were out.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
There, Okay, California boy moved to Colorado, Ben to Michigan
once Hamish buffet. You gotta explain it.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
It just what it sounds like. I mean, yeah, it's
just a it's a restaurant that that uh much incredible.
Believe it or not. It was like it was called,
uh if Nick's still here in the live chat, I
think it was called Missus Yoder's Kitchen something like that.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
All right, it was a boot and everything would be
pretty fresh. I mean, you know it was.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
It was local, local beef, local chicken.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah, I'm sure they don't like McDonald's having some eighteen
wheeler back up to the back door.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
The bunch of filler.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah right, yeah, right, it was in It was in
Mount Hope, Ohio. Kitchen amazing, I mean, and yep, anyways,
quick plug for them. Sure, there you go. It's really interesting.
Flank steak, get the flank steak buffet.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Well, Scott, you were talking about giving you know, your
stuff to the landowners and stuff. That's that's awesome, you know.
And the one thing is is that the people you
get in with, they know the neighbors. You know what
I mean?
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Oh, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I started on Twitter. I started off with one house,
the Baker's house. I got they did one of the
news stations did a special on me Metal Detecting the
Baker's House.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
And before it was done.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
I had eight literally joining neighbors in that area I have.
I'm not sure how well this is gonna come up,
but this is a topographical and all the yellow is
these are all a neighborhood and all these what I
ended up with. So yeah, I mean, yeah, people, good anyway,
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good thing come to you. You know, if you're a butthole,
you know you'll.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Well, yeah, your name spreads one way or the other,
whether it's positive, right.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
You know, you want the sunnyside up or you know,
but no, I just found that just doing what I do,
be honest about it, and uh, you know, if you
have to butt heads, you know, sometimes I butt heads.
And you know, in the end, it seems like people,
you know, like my fights I'm having with the cemeteries.
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Uh seems pretty much so that people, you know, support
me on what I'm doing. But I mean, I'm not
no activist. I'm not you know. You know, I see
something and I you know, is wrong like that, I'll
call a township help, because that's what the community is
supposed to do, is say if there's a problem, let's
let's straighten that out.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
But you know, sometimes they just don't want.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
To do it.
Speaker 4 (53:56):
For whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, I was gonna say, Ken, Ken's been on some
Facebook groups for communities and and and it's gotten some
permissions as well. And you know, we've done we've done
an episode on the podcast of you know, how to
get more permissions or you know, just kind of a
just off the cuff time type of thing, and that
definitely has come up. And if people aren't using those
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resources to get the permissions, and then what I like,
I know what's happened before for Ken as well as
me on on these different communities. Those people that you
that have approached you, they get back on that community
and say, you know, oh he's awesome. You know Karen,
Karen so and so tag Karen, and you should let
him come out to your property, you know, and it
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just it starts to snowball from there. But in the
positive side, So do what's right, you know, be an
ambassador for the hobby. And and you know, like I
said to the first lady, you know, when we left
her house, I said, you know, I really want to
thank you for allowing us to come out here, because
without your permission, we can't go out and do this
what we love. We appreciate you a ton and that
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goes a long ways. I mean just just being a good, good,
all the wrong.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
Person, you know, right, I mean you got to show
the gratitude. You can't just be like all right and
jump in your vehicle and roll out, you know, spend
the time and talk to them, because, believe me, you know,
the happier they are about the experience and the more
excited they are, the more likely, like you said, that
they're going to say something to their neighbor or go
on the community page and say, hey, it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
You know, this is what they found. I suggest you
do it, but probably average, I probably have.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
At least one or two a week, if not more,
people contact me, hey I've got property. And unfortunately, I
mean like I got an email today and I was like, oh,
you know, that sounds like a great spot, and so
I googled you know, the town and it's three and
a half hours away, and I'm like, okay, okay, so
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but it's a big state and I'm only you know,
one person with my guys, and you know, they do
their own things also, you know, we do our hunts
on the weekends from time to time. Sometimes not all
of us make it, but you know, could we got
what's going on with our other history work or whatever.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Well, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Isn't it the best when the landowner enjoys the history.
Oh yeah, you can educate them on something and they're
so into it. Some of the best properties, Tony, I
have hunted is at the end when the landowner is
just like totally transfixed on what we were telling her
that her own property.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
You know, yep.
Speaker 4 (56:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:37):
I've had people ask me, you know, we bought this
house and we're not sure on the date. The date
says on the paperwork nineteen hundred. Well when I hear
nineteen hundred, that sends up kind of a yellow flag.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (56:51):
And the reason is is.
Speaker 3 (56:52):
Because when they started doing they sense us on keeping
records of wind houses were built and all if they
could and verify the actual data when that house was built,
they just wrote nineteen hundred. So a lot of the
nineteen hundred houses that I have found are actually.
Speaker 4 (57:12):
A little than that.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (57:14):
Yeah, I remodel homes.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
And you were talking about the yet humidity today it
was eighty six degrees and the humidity was seventy percent.
And right now it's a pretty good thunderstorm. Going on.
Speaker 4 (57:28):
So, yeah, it's a little wet right now, so.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
I don't know about that dry heat you guys supposedly have.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
It's nice. You don't sweat like you do in Ohio.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
They don't chave.
Speaker 1 (57:42):
Exactly. There's a lot of people in the chat right
now that are talking about all the storms going on.
Speaker 4 (57:47):
Yeah, it's pretty fast.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
More times South had to get up and head it
comes across with the alert.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know that. Judy Collins just said
frontline of the storm came through North Olmstead.
Speaker 3 (58:01):
Yeah. Yeah, and I just went through because where I'm
sitting at probably about five minutes ago. It was pretty rough.
But the room shoot alone. So that's good news.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
That's good. That's good. Yes, Thin Blue Diggers said his
power powers flickering. So but he's he's a little bit
further south than you. So it must be a pretty
big storm with all the.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
Well they were calling for tornado warnings and all hail
and and whatnot. So it was, you know, and it
was a line that went you know, completely up to
Lake Erie all the way down below Ohio.
Speaker 4 (58:37):
So I mean everybody got it, all right, He's going
to get it.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
Yeah, Yeah, I was looking at some of the questions
that came in.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
Yeah, real quick, while you're looking at that, Troy earlier
had said that I figured out what that coin was,
So yeah, remember that coin that I was.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
I thought, yeah, the mystery coin. Well, he thought it
was a large set. I thought it was not a
large set, and so we I posted a video of
the heated debate that took place over what it was
and we we didn't know, and Am the homeowner walks
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by goes, it's one of them slugs out of uh.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
Yeah, yeah, one of them slug. I just looked at him, like, really, dude,
come on, so what what? What did we come up with?
I bought one of these, Okay, on.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
My way home. I actually go to Amazon. It was
like sixteen bucks. I can pass it up. So I
measured it, and well, first off, I tried cleaning it
when I got home before I measured it. There is
no markings on it at all. I did some side light,
did some water, did some brushing, did some toothpicking, couldn't.
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I couldn't get anything off of it IDENTI file at all.
But you say it's an electrical slug, I'm gonna punch it.
I don't think it's an electrical slug, so.
Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Definitely wasn't one, because those have cress edges and all this.
Well this was like this had coin edges and it
was slightly bigger than a silver quarter.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Yep, so it's definitely a copper. I measured it and
then I did a search on the measurement size that
I got. Okay, the only thing that I could come
up with was a nineteen oh six Canada penny. H
The measurements come out exactly for the diameter of a
Canadian penny nineteen and it had to be nineteen oh
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six for some reason. That year was this exact measurement,
so it would kind of it was a little bit thick,
what I thought too thick to be a penny, a
Canadian penny, but they no other diameter dimensions come up
for that coin.
Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
So now we find Canadian coins here quite regularly. I mean,
that's that's not like God of the norm.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Right, And that's what I thought as well, like it
could fit the area for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
But because I mean I think some of the relatives
of previous owners were from Sweden or something, so I mean,
you know, you got people from out of the country
all through that property.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah, yeah, it could be. It could not be. Heck
if I know, but it was a cool fine I
thought it was. It was a largie, but it was.
It's still going to go on my display case as
finding a coin.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
You know, and I get the credit for saying it
was a foreign coin.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, you're right, you did, Yeah, Scott, those Bank of
Montreal tokens.
Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Oh no, No, there's a plethora of coins I haven't found.
I just want to find one gold coin. That's you know,
I don't care what it is, just a gold coin.
I find silver all the time, and that's you know,
like I said, you know, I find coins, and all right,
once you've dug up your ten fifty twenty mercury, you know,
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it's like, hey, it's a mercury dive, man, Okay, I
mean not that that's not exciting, but you know it's
a mercury dive. You've dug it up, right, So I
don't know, I just I guess I'm weird about that.
That's why I think I get more enjoyment out of
other people hunting and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Yeah, ru it's less about the find and more about
what we discover surrounding the find. So either on the
research we do to find permissions and discover something about
this area that we knew nothing about previously, or right,
I find something that we have to go research and
figure out.
Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
It's it's definitely part of the Metal detect team because
I mean it starts when you find that when you
find the target, all right, can start when you're researching
the land to go hunt. I mean like the kids
when they find whatever artifacts or coins that we get,
you know, give them, then they get to go home
and they get to spend more time excited and amped
(01:03:04):
up about it, doing the research on it. Any kind
of you gets. You get to prolong the the enjoyment
of it. You know, I agree, and you know, and
it's educational. That's the thing too, is because you know
you're kind of tricking the kids and to being educational.
Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
You got to learn that.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
You got to learn a to read, and you got
to do your research and you know there's there's there's
some math in there too. You know, I got twenty
five cents and so now I still can't afford a
cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Look at Tony using a caliber man who would have.
Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Thought, oh hey, yeah, you know what that's some deep
thinking right there, And I bet you, well, how often
have you came across that kind of a situation where
you just couldn't figure it out? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I thought, well, I have thought only because there was
no identififiable marks on it, that that was the only
way I was going to be able to figure it
out was based on the size. So that's the route
that I want. I really want to know what it is.
I mean, we're we're in an old site in in
uh In, Ohio, so I mean it could be it
could be seventeen hundreds, it could have been, it could
(01:04:08):
be anything. So you know, I just really want to
I want to know what it is again because it's historical,
like it's you know, it's it just it has a
lot of value to me because of the history exactly,
not only identifying it. Then then you start going down
the rabbit hole of well, what's the story, how did
he get there? Who had it? What was it used for?
How do they drop it? You know, like all those
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different things. Then they start then the story starts building
from that point.
Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
So I look at so many eighteen hundreds maps of
Ohio that when I'm riding down the road, I don't
see the McDonald's there, I see are the gas station,
I see the old school house or or something our road.
Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
That used to be there that's no longer there.
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
I mean it's and I try and explain it to
my wife when I'm driving and all, and she just
looks at me like I really should get some therapy. Yeah,
it's really excited you guys invited me, you know, to
talk to y'all, because that just means us one afternoon
that she doesn't have to hear me.
Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
I got to give her a hard time. But let
me tell you what she's.
Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
She fouled me for a couple of years on ohh
it was taking up time. We're remodeling the house. We
own a special needs the English Bulldog Sanctuary. Busy life
and working full time, and she is my biggest critic.
But she will call me our text to me at
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eight o'clock or nine o'clock in the morning and I'm
been at work since six thirty seven o'clock and she'll
be like, oh, you've got this this fake account person
comment and on this post. You need to get on
there ticket And I'm at work. Are you misspelled this word?
Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
You need to go in there?
Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
And fix that. And again I'm at work, honey, and
my boss is looking at me like, what is it now?
It's at the three legged there. Hey, we have a
three legged deer we've adopted, so we feeded apples.
Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Yeah, we can't sometimes we can't do what we do
without the support of our our significance.
Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Oh my god. Yeah that's great.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
But I want to get back to that caliper because
you know, I told I know Tony pretty well, and
I'd be willing to bet you a twelve pack and
a pizza. All right, I think you bought that caliper.
He's been measuring you see that manicor in the background.
I bet you he knows the the diameter of that shaft.
I bet you he knows the diameter of the microphone.
(01:06:35):
He's tell me I'm wrong, Tony.
Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
As long as he can sit just in that room
and he just measures up in.
Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
That room, he's like my middle finger. Let's see exactly
what that means. Let's see it, man, I know, did
you know that this pen.
Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Is exactly eleven point six five around? I bet you
you didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
You didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
See find We're gonna find pull tab you know off
of seventy six Olympia. Can he's gonna run up? Well,
let me check the diameter on, oh man.
Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
But that's to become a measurer.
Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
In freak, you be measuring full. That's what I had
heard people do this, and that's why they give those
measurements of coins so you can actually figure out what
they are.
Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
So, yeah, it is crazy they give you the weight
and everything.
Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I mean, I don't have my skill here. Everything is
packed up in in uh in my storage unit because
we're trying to sell our house to move. So I
do have a scale as well that I could actually
measure the weight on, and that was the next thing
I was going to do with it, to try and
figure it out.
Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Now, my question to you, since you've done that before,
is in weighing a coin, say a silver coin, that
the face is worn off and all, don't you weight
in that?
Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Can you not go by weight at that point?
Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
I think there's a range sometimes on some of these identifiers.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah, and I was gonna I was gonna say, tim
Ildigger says, you add or subtract a millimeter for where
on a court?
Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Right? All right? All right, So that's That's what I
was getting at advertise exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
Yeah, because I.
Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Mean if you're sitting there going, well, it's it's six millimeters,
but this is five millimeters. You know, you're but the
face is all gone and you're like, well.
Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah, the plows hit it a couple of times. It's
it's a guide. Nothing is an exact science. When you're
talking about history, it's a guide.
Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
So well, Scott, you mentioned a couple of times. I
really want to hear if you're willing to talk about it,
about this cemetery issue you mentioned kind of you know,
you've been kind of getting into this cemetery. What's it
called Columbia Station, Columbia Station. Why don't we chat about
that for a bit. I think our viewer, our listeners
(01:08:57):
would love to hear about that.
Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Okay, the cemetery there in Columbia Station is actually an
extraordinary cemetery, beautiful, amazing for photography. There is soldiers from
every war from Free seventeen seventy six, I think seventeen
(01:09:25):
seventy five. There's even an Alamo. A gentleman died at
the Alamo. They got his headstone there, all the way
up to World War two and two years ago. I
was there doing research looking for our eighteen hundreds African
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American gravesites. And if you don't know, back in the
eighteen hundreds, because of the race thing, African Americans were
not buried inside of the white or white people's cemeteries.
They were normally buried on the outskirts of the cemetery. Still,
(01:10:07):
I was contacted by a member of the community who said, well,
you might want to go have.
Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
A look around the cemetery.
Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Well, I get out there, and every time I went
back to that cemetery, I'd find three, four or five
lost grapes. There's videos of me digging inches off of
fallen headstones up dirt, two three inch roots growing across
the top of them. Well, after fighting with the township
(01:10:37):
and buttonheads, and then I had to say, well, I'm
just going to go and file a complaint with the state.
They were out there and they got the cemetery cleaned up. Beautiful.
I mean it is beautiful. One of the most beautiful cemeteries,
small ones like that that I have visited. Well, I
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do before work stops at cemeteries and just share pictures
from the cemeteries with people on my age. I call
it my pre work adventure, and I happened to decide, well,
i'm close by, I'll swing by. I haven't been out
there in a while and see what's going on. Well,
the same trees and the same thing's happening again. They're
(01:11:23):
not maintaining it. There's trees growing over the headstones all
the almost all the you go into the cemeteries, they
have the metal markers like World War two or whatever.
It tells what war you're in. That place used to
be packed. Fool of them. There was three in the
(01:11:44):
whole cemetery today. When I got back from there. They've
disappeared some of the headstones, damaged, trees and bushes growing
over some of the headstones, and there's still headstones that
are and embedded. Trees have like engulfed the headstones that
(01:12:05):
are around the cemetery there. So I was contacted after
I posted the video kind of expressing my dislike on
what it, you know, what I was seeing. I was
contacted by a local reporter. So they're doing a special
fifteen minute deal interviewing me about the cemetery not being
(01:12:31):
maintained and the issues there and why the township is
refusing to keep the cemetery properly maintained.
Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
And again, I'm not an activist, not a protagonist.
Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
I just see something that's wrong, and maybe it's morals
the way I was raised, you know, religious background, whatever,
But uh, the way we treat are dead those that
have gone before says a lot about my person and
UH humanity.
Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
So I agreed.
Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
I UH will butt heads if I have to.
Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Uh. I posted last week, Uh, I was at another cemetery.
I posted, uh beautiful pictures. One of the headstones had
a novelist on top and it had fallen over, and
I posted a picture of it. Wasn't you know, complaining
or anything. I was like, you know, that's you know,
that's kind of sad, and a bunch of people were
like vandalism. I was like, no, it looks like the
(01:13:33):
base shifted and because it's a tall obelisk, you know
it toppled over. I'm saying, there's no no vandalism. I
think within like two hours, the north Holmstead was on
my page going we'll be out there and have that
fixed by next week. Thank you for letting us know,
and I thanked them and told them I look forward
to working with them in the future.
Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
And that's the way it should be.
Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Yeah, but uh yeah, you know, I've I've gone to
town halls and you know, and quite nastally and treated
and just because for whatever reason they can't put uh
an employee an extra hour or doing some work in
a cemetery, because I could go out there right now
(01:14:17):
and clean up what's there and probably two or three hours.
But you know, the reason why it got so bad
in the first place was this right here, This is
how it started. Right So they're wanted to do an interview,
and I guess they're won because we're having a I
guess a rash of problems with vandalism and cemeteries not
(01:14:40):
being taken care of. And it seems like every few
years this little cycle rolls through of this, you know.
And I guess it's this year that they were rolling
through with the news and the vandalism and the maintaining
of the cemeteries. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I'm in the genealogy a lot, and I on a
lot of trips just to go find grave sites of
my ancestors. And I'll always clean them up, you know.
When I'm there and there is a king, my last
name is King, there's a king family Gravesite cemetery small,
small in Chicago, in Illinois, and I haven't made the
(01:15:21):
trip there yet, but somebody else in my family had
and it's all overgrown and dilapidated, and some stones, a
lot of them are hand carved. They're you know, covered
over and stuff. So one of my goals, Scott, is
to get out there and to try to get that
back to a respectable.
Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Position, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Well, Tony witnessed conversation I was having with a community
there and a member there and Ainkley about the cemetery
where it was of the fourth founding fathers of Ankley.
But the cemetery was love catered on private property. The
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current property owner is the former a former a historian
for the area. He went out to the cemetery that's
on his property, mind you, and removed all the headstones
and put them in his garage. Now I was contacted
in what a amazing coincidence. As we were standing there
(01:16:25):
talking to people, the lady who had sent me the
email about this and asked if I could do anything,
happens to walk up.
Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
Of course, my trug's got Ohio history hunter. They'd seen
that on there.
Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
So anyway, she comes over and she's like, I'm the
one that sent you that, And I said, well, maybe
someone because it's been a couple of years since anyone,
you know, most of them must have maybe someone from
the outside, you know, maybe he can come in and
bend an here or at least be able to go
in and say can I take pictures? You know, the
community wants to know, can you at least let me
(01:17:01):
take pictures? And you know they're either going to say yes,
and like, you know, they could say no, and what
can I say? Other have a nice step. But that's
kind of that's just some of the things I get
asked to do in these communities. Wow' of course every
time you do want it. Just you know it's street parks.
You know, you're getting street cred, and that street cred
(01:17:23):
is what gets people calling you and asking you to
do these crazy adventures.
Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Yeah, yep, that's true. That's a good good thing to
have people know who you are and know where to
get you. Well, look, Scott, you've been a great guest man.
I really appreciate you giving us your time. I was
really looking forward to talking to you after talking with
Tony and it's been great man, So thank you so
much for coming on with us.
Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Hey anytime.
Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Yeah, I don't have flies, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
We could keep talking, I tell you so, right, any
last words from you, and know what we'll do is
put you down in the green room. We'll say argobies
on the air, and then we'll say argobies to you
off air.
Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
If that's okay, that's want to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah, So we'll give you last words until we put
you down in the in the Uh, any words of
wisdom for us before we put you down in the
green room?
Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
All right?
Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
I guess in the metal detecting field are relic hunting
and all it comes down to your reputation, reputation. If
if you build a good reputation, people are more likely
to say yes than those that will say no. Do
what you say you're gonna do, be honest, and have fun.
(01:18:39):
I mean that's the whole point. You know, we're we're
all doing this because it is fun. I mean, many
of us are gonna want to go out there and
do something that's not fun. So I wish everybody the best.
And uh, if you don't follow my page, that's cool.
I'm not out here begging anybody to follow me. But
I am wishing everybody luck and they're endeavors and they're
(01:19:00):
hout and maybe uh you can reach out to me.
We can go hunting together. Who knows.
Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Thank you everybody, and.
Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Tony guys, anytime you're here in Ohio, you do not
have to go look for a place to hunt.
Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Just give me an hour or two and I'll happen
to dress for you buddies.
Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Well, I keep hearing that there's nothing left in Ohio.
Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
I don't know saying that, well, yeah, there's there's nothing here,
so just stay there in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
I'm still getting messages to say they tell me stay
out of Ohio. I'm not going to say sending them
in the chat.
Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Scott, hold on a minute, we'll get right back to
you down there.
Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
All thank you and thanks doing everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Thank you, Okay, thanks Scott. All right, that was great.
And that guy, you know, I started off the whole
podcast by bye saying like he literally dropped what he
was doing, made arrangements, you know, got me out on
eighteen forties house like. It's a good dude man, a
(01:20:10):
good good ambassador, you know. You know, we talk about
the kids stuff and military stuff, just a great, great ambassador,
and I knew he'd be a great guest and a
great contact. And if any has you know, things you
know out there in Ohio, you know, reach out to
Scott and get a hold of him and and you know,
(01:20:31):
take care of those cemeteries, take care of each other
in the community, and you know all that kind of stuff.
So great, guess man, Yeah, it was great. Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
His work with the autistic population, yeah, really impressed. Oh man.
When I used to teach in martial arts, I had
a group of some kids with Down syndrome that came
in and they were the I don't know, handlers, I
guess you would say, would say they were in a
home and they would say can they can you bring
them on and show them and some stuff, And I
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said sure, and took a lot of patients and stuff
and they were just like, oh my gosh. At the
end of it, they were just like almost crying, these
these chaperones and they were just like, we've never seen
him get that excited or be so focused, and you
were so patient with them and all this stuff. It
really made me feel like on cloud nine because I
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was able to give that, you know, to that kid
and see how how how he was receiving it and
how much excitement he got out of it.
Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
So it was really cool. I know there's some programs
out there, you know, we've talked about it, you know,
helping former veterans, you know, with in getting into metal detecting,
you know, autistic kids, you know, down syndrome. I mean,
you know, helping all those people out there, really expanding
our community out there and just getting involved. Fantastic stuff
and yeah, real good stuff there.
Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Cool. All right, Well let's get out of here. I know,
everyone listening, you've got to figure out how to get
on the Discovery channel, and oh and view the Discovery channel.
Like you've got at least a couple of weeks until
you need to definitely know how to get on the
Discovery Channel.
Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Why is that we kind of we kind of dropped
a little secret out on social media today. So Ken
and I did an episode of Expedition Unknown, and that's
coming out here in a couple of weeks over on
Discovery July. Second, it's a Wednesday, So you guys need
to make sure if you're still listening. I know we
got some people still here with Live with Us. Get
(01:22:29):
over on our social media, We've got pictures. We're gonna
be disclosing and putting out a lot more stuff as
we're leading up to July second. Yeah, and maybe even
do a some interviews about the show. Fingers crossed on
that one, you know, and just just some some stuff
coming up about it. It was a great, great experience,
great time for us, and we want to share it
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with everybody out there too.
Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
So yeah, so stay tuned more to come on that.
What else you got, Bud, Let's get out of here.
What else you got?
Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Yep? Just uh, if you're interested in anything, I'm up
to type in fifty two eighty adventures over in the
Google and you'll find me over on YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram,
rumble kind of all that.
Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
I'm posting stuff, having fun, interacting with people and just
really enjoying the community. So check me out over there.
Leave me a message and I'll definitely apply back to you.
Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Grandma's Poor Rope, Grandma's Poor Rope, Matt too. You can
find me everywhere over at Adventures in Dirt or my
other website called I Know How to Deal with Wires
and Electricity dot com. It's a great site. You'll go
over there. You see exactly how professional I am with
all this technology stuff, So no adventures in dirt. You
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can find me anywhere on social media, right here on
Relics Radio every Wednesday night. If you guys go out,
go find the good stuff, tell me about it. Be safe,
be good, and we'll catch you next week.
Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Thank you so much for listening to Relics Radio.
Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
We will see you back here next week.
Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
For another exciting guest. Until then, get out and dig
it all.