S8 E30 - Metal Detecting GOLD COINS! Metal Detecting Treasure Talk on Relics Radio - Relics Radio show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So, you know, welcome to RUX Radio. Ken here from
Adventures in Dirt. You know, I'm sitting here looking at
my phone waiting for the show to start, and one
of my good friends, Cindy, just messaged me and she
said I found another grenade. So, uh, that's quite the
interesting text to be getting from one of your friends

(00:20):
here in Colorado. She found another grenade. Someday we hope
to have her on she could tell the story of
finding her first grenade. But hey, I want to bring
my co host on. What do you think of that?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Tony? I hit live to start the stream and my
phone buzzer and I'm like, luckily I wasn't on camera
because I was like, oh my gosh, another one. Anyways,
Cheers buddy, cheers man. How's your u to get Cindy
on and talk about grenades? Huh? That girl? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's funny that.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Her story of the first one is just priceless.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
It's awesome. Absolutely, we may have talked about it on
here before, but I'm sure we've mentioned it because it's
an awesome story. But uh, yeah, how's your week, man?
Wednesday's good? I tell you what? Uh talk about this? Weather.
This weather is incredible. It's like seventies overcast, and of
course it can't go digging. But hopefully other people have

(01:28):
gotten out here in Colorado and done some digging because
the weather has been just been fantastic and actuality. Like
I went out Sunday, I think, right Sunday, Yeah, yeah,
Sunday you weren't able to go. You were sitting there
party and eating lobster or crab legs and and uh
and shrimp and a whole bunch of great great things.

(01:49):
I went out digging, and uh we had weather like
this were kind of like spit sprinkled stuff for a
second overcast, and oh it was. It was amazing, is
the best man, It was amazing. I love this time
of year. So but yeah, digging recently.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah yeah, I got out, uh with a good buddy
of mine, Jason. Yeah, and Jason, I got out and
we went out and uh, he put me on some
good great permissions. We did a nice uh nice drive
out there. Beautiful country boy, I'll tell you, and uh
we're able to go after this old site that he

(02:29):
had had had put uh went out there and detective
before and found some stuff. Incredible permission towards the end
of the day, ended up meeting the landowner who doesn't
live there, you know what I mean, he kind of
comes up every now and then. And yeah, he came up,
just a wonderful guy. Man just sat there and chatted
with him and he was super interested. You want to
know about everything, you know, what what we found and

(02:51):
what we've found in the past. And he had tons
of questions for us. And we ended up trapsing back
into this canyon because we thought, oh, maybe this road
went back there, and we started like it was like
trapsing through the jungle. It was just yeah, sweat. It
got real humid back in there, but we had like
eighty degree weather. It was beautiful and it was just gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
And when you're hanging out with a friend and you're
in this beautiful God God's country like that, it's it
was awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's an absolute beautiful area up there north of us too.
So yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Mean we were finding like all like early nineteen hundreds,
you know, mid mid nineteen hundreds, nineteen twenties, all kinds
of different BIPs and bobs, you know what I mean,
Like you car emblems, you know, make up, you know,
lids and compacts and all kinds of cool stuff. So
pieces of Americana, for sure.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
That's right, that's awesome. Well, good good. We gotta we
gotta take advantage of this nice weather here coming up
here pretty soon. So yeah, we get a couple more
trips in before Colorado turns into the you know, winter wonderland.
So we'll go out. We got Uh. I've been doing
a lot of research actually, so I know we have
to get out. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
The research has been flowing man, back and forth, and
even between you and me and Michael, we've been just
sending stuff back and forth. And yeah, I sure wish
I could.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Have gotten out with you guys Sunday. I was.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I had forgotten all about this crab boil that I
had planned, this uh low country, low country seafood boil. Yeah, yeah,
people come over and stuff. But it turned out really well.
We had a good lot of food, enough to give
it the rest of it to their neighbors right here. Man,
let's not waste it.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
But wish I was a neighbor. Dang, good stuff. Hey,
let's get over to the chat and visit with everybody,
and then we're gonna We've got an incredible guest who
has a plethora of fines. I've got it all up
here on my big screen, and uh, you guys are
gonna in for an incredible show tonight for fines. I
keep looking up because this first one is incredible. But

(05:01):
uh yeah, let's get over to the chat. See what
we've got going on now. We do have to see
what's funny. We've got competition here to be the first
one to to uh to sign in with us. Right wise,
Diggers two forty seven PM, that's not even that doesn't
even count.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's wise, and that's very wise to tune in that
early because you're gonna beat everybody if you're tune in
that early.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's right. Robert Thompson says, ah, darned, I thought he
was gonna be first. He came into five point thirty five. Wow, So, uh,
mister Bill Hayes. Bill Hayes was out digging. Yeah, I
saw that he was out taking. Yeah right, Hey, Barb,
Barbara Dirt pirates with us tonight. Hey Barb, Hello, Barb
co went on with us. Uh, let's see e tech door.

(05:50):
That's an awesome picture too. Can you see that picture?

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Like, Yeah, he's ready to rock Man.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Trapped and ready yeah, ready, ready to get it all. Yeah,
speaking of South Dakota. About this guy, Oh hey there
there's detective SD. How you doing there, but no, good
to see you. Good to see you, Jason. That's right,
that's right. And Bill had mentioned that when he was
out today he dug a large brass rains guide at

(06:15):
eight inches deep with his uh D two and he
got charged uh twenty five cents for saying the D
word on the show that we're now allowed to talk
about the D word. Sorry, Bill. We're building savings, Teresa.
What we're doing is we're building up with savings to
go to Ohio to dig with Bob, with with Bill.

(06:37):
That's what we need to do here. Yeah, hey Teresa, Hello, hello, hello,
mister Bob Rose. Oh Bob welcome. I just saw this.
I like the M word right here right here. Oh hey,
look at this. Our buddy Zach checking in. Let's go in.

(07:01):
I know, great to see you man, very nice East
Idaho digger coming in there you go. We got Chris
Chris joining us, Tonicea, Chris, Tom Kingay, Tom Well, lots
and lots of people joining us here too.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Welcome everyone, jerk Claude. Good to see you.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Welcome everybody, Welcome to Relic Radio, Wednesday night, coming to
you from Colorado. Tony's down south. I'm up north. We've
got the whole state covered. Yep, nothing left here to
find in Colorado. We're finding it all, just like Ohio.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Nothing to see here. Move on, Hey, you shut you
told me. Gypsy's in town. Gypsy's in Colorado. I saw
a post on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
She was she's down about hour and a half southwest
of me, not too far, but she posted a picture.
And what did she say. It's absolutely beautiful. Weather's great.
So yeah, she's having a good time on there. If
you're turning in, I know right, see you. Welcome to
beautiful state of Colorado. Oh yeah, let's get to our guests. Man.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I can't wait to talk with Kyle.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
He's full of stories, full of some cool fines.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Let's get I can't wait to get in these pictures. Man,
it's a good one. All right, we are welcoming mister
Kyle Fittus over to Relicts Radio. Kyle, how's it going, buddy,
it's going great.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Thanks for having me here. I was super excited. When
I got the invite from.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Y'all, how could we not right been on fire?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Man?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
It's like, yeah, gotta get you on to talk about
all the excitement. And next thing you know, you start
telling us a little bit about your story and it
just keeps you better and better and more and more exciting.
And you come with the stories, you come with some pictures,
and we just love guests like that. Man, So you're
welcome on anytime.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Thank you, thank you. I need to get more pictures.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Unfortunate right, Well, if anybody saw the thumbnail, they know
what topic we'll get on to eventually. But that incredible
find that I had to put on the thumbnails. But
let's kick it off, and why don't you tell us
a little bit about you, how you got started metal detecting,
where you're at, You know your GPS of all the
locations for seated coins, you know, just the basic stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Hey, take pretty first before you get started. Tell those
kids in the background to pipe down and stay off
the couch. And if they start playing that piano jumping
on the cap, we're going to have to have a
talk with them.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, my kid's four legged right now. My actual daughter
is not here, so so my name's Kyle. I got
into metal detecting back in twenty fifteen. Actually it was
a high school friend that got me into metal detecting.
He actually had the same first job as me. We

(09:51):
started at Chick fil A and I had found like
a wheat penny or something in my drawer. He got
all excited, and I was all excited because I loved coins.
He's like, oh my gosh, dude, I have a metal detector.
I find those with metal detectors. And he's like, you
should come with me. So I ended up going with
them one day to a town in the Dallas area
and uh. He had like an A two fifty and
an E track at the time, and I had no

(10:14):
idea what I was doing, you know, I just was
like a monkey with a stick.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Eventually, and uh, A good way to describe it.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, he swung over this signal with the E track.
He's like, hey, man, this sounds good. You should dig
this one. And you know, being I think I was
like sixteen or seventeen at the time, I just started like,
oh man, I'll look back on it. I'm like, man,
I tore that dude's yard up bad, and I filled
I dug it though it was a silver pocket knife.
It was a pocket knife with a silver case, so

(10:43):
that like the silver case. Yeah, it hooked me immediately.
It was my first thing I ever dug. So ever
since then I got more progressively more and more into it.
We started door knocking like crazy, finding coins left and right,
old coins, and I really got into detecting probably, oh gosh,
twenty eighteen, nineteen twenty twenty, like right before COVID and

(11:04):
during COVID, that's when I really just buckled down and
got into doing research to find some of the old
old stuff because used to just go door knocking and
like I used to do courthouses and stuff like that,
so just like pretty like normal obvious spots, and then
got into the field hunting and just nice. I've loved
it ever since. Like I never understood why the old

(11:25):
farts are like get out in the fields, and then
you get out there and you're like, oh, this makes sense.
This is why people came out here back in the day.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Is that what you told your friend when he said, hey,
I used metal detectors to find did you say, oh,
I thought only crazy old men used it.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I was proven wrong.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
As soon as I found that pocket knife. It was
essentially his signal, but he gave it to me. He
was being a nice friend.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, amazing, And yeah that.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Holped me ever since. And we've been going together. I mean,
we've been hunting together all these years later. So it's
been it's been over ten years now.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's cool, man. So is it the uh? Is it
the history that drives you? Is it the finds? What?
What kind of like motivates you to to do? You know,
I know that you are heavy into research and putting
in the time in the miles and and you know,
boots on the ground type of thing. So, you know,
is is it the history that drives it? Is it?
Is it the just the the unknown? Is it the relics?

Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's it's a mixture of everything. I love history. It
was always the class that I paid attention to most
in school, which was not very common. Most kids like
didn't give a crap about history. So I always loved history,
reading about it and just hearing about all the cool
things that would be uh you know, talked about you know,
the Civil War especially. I love the Civil War and
in school and uh, I think a lot of it

(12:45):
stemmed from I grew up. I grew up like my
early childhood on the East Coast and was around all
those really old buildings and stuff. Like my grandparents lived
in Williamsburg, Virginia, so you can't really get much older
than that.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Uh yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Uh just remember going there, and it's just it was
always fascinated me. And then you know, I kind of
called like dirt therapy as well. I enjoy just going out,
getting to look for something I love and just turning
my brain off almost and just enjoying nature. Man. I
used to go out on hot days, but now that
I'm fat, not so much anymore. It's not as pleasant.

(13:21):
I'm more of a fair weather digger.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Now you're still a fairly young guy, Like you know,
what is like, what what do you like other friends?
You know, you get your friend that got into but
like what do they think or family even you know
what I mean, Like what do they think about this
obsession you have? Cause it's not very common, you know
what I mean? Like when you talk to you know,
guys your age and such, it's like you don't expect

(13:45):
to say, yeah, I'm in the metal.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, it's definitely not something that's very common my age,
and I think that's what's kind of driven a lot
of my friendships has been metal detecting because a lot
of people like, they'll be interested, but they won't like
want to go anywhere and do anything. And then the
people you meet that would eventually, you know, go detecting.
It's like you just immediately click because you understand why
you like it. You know, both of you. You know,

(14:10):
most people are in it for for saving history and
having fun, and so you know, you know, all my friends,
like my close close friends that I talk to constantly,
are all into detecting. I have like one or two
friends from high school that I still occasionally talk to
or play video games with, but you know, for the
most part, my close close friends are metal detecting related.

(14:31):
So and it's a good way. One of the other
things that I've found is it's a good way to
meet people who have a lot of experience in life
because a lot of the community is older, and I've
I've found really good friends who are older that have
kind of guided me in certain directions that I never
thought I would go. And it's been just a real
blessing to learn things from from some of the older

(14:54):
folks in the community. Like one of my friends, his
name is John, and I'm sure he's not watching this,
but he's a he's down like by the Austin area,
and he man like I. I called him out of
blue one day, like he had no idea who I was.
I watched this YouTube video about him digging some like
Republic of Texas button and I was like starting to

(15:15):
really get into the field hunting, and uh, I just
I like they mentioned his name in the video, and
I'll be honest with you, I kind of cyberstalked him
to find out like who his phone number. I found
his phone and I just came out of.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
You researched it. Yeah, you're you're very good, just like
Chris just said, you're good at researching.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
And I found his phone number and called him out
of blue and just like immediately INFO dumped on him
and he was just like, who are you. But once
he realized I wasn't like trying to like, uh just
like steal his spots or something, he really took me
under his wing and taught me a lot about you
know what to look for and uh, you know how
to talk to people. You know, one of the things

(15:59):
is just you know, how to be a good person
for landowners and keep the hobby alive and well because
we all have those sites that you know, people just ruin.
It's it's horrible. And so John's taught me a lot
about that and just what to look for and what
what the old the old soldiers and other things and
you know settlers were thinking back in the day. It

(16:19):
helps me get get me an insight onto how to
find sites.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I tell you, isn't it Isn't it interesting the people
that you come across in this hobby. You know, I'm
looking at the chat and this is just the chat.
But we you know, we could go off on a
whole bunch of differ people. But I but I've been
able to dig with Bill. Bill is I think two
or three, probably three or four times older than I am,
at least maybe five, I don't know. But but also

(16:46):
you know, I mean we've been hunted with Teresa, you know,
an incredible woman in the in the hobby, right, you know,
and you come across a lot of people that you
wouldn't normally have contact with or have something in common with,
you know, But there's just one small little little little hobby,
I guess. And all of a sudden, you know, you're
talking to these people every single day, multiple times a day. Yeah,

(17:09):
you know, and and the friendships and the things that
you learned from each other's just absolutely incredible. Yeah. You
know who we're digging with next, Tony No Kyle? Oh
well yeah, no, I knew that. He's like four or
five times younger than I am. See how that works.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Someday we'll be like, yeah, we're talking with that Kyle guy.
And I think Teresa earlier, I wanted to know if
you were near the Dallas area.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yes, I am in the Dallas area. I live up
kind of near Denton.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Gotcha, beautiful area.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
So a lot of detecting in Texas, Like we're talking
Gypsy and like she started, like, how many clubs has
she started? Detecting clubs here and there throughout Texas and
some of them are even still active. But yeah, she
tells me a lot. She told me a lot about
all the detecting that goes on in Texas.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, Texas. You know, everyone says Virginia is hunted, and
you know, it's hard to find things in Virginia. One
of the photos I sent you Tony that will get
into later. Was was in Virginia, but you know, I
made a trip out to Virginia and they're like, oh yeah,
someone came by twenty years ago, and you know it
wasn't anything new. But I'm telling you you can go

(18:24):
into some of the towns in the Dallas area, you know,
good door knock on a door and they're like, oh yeah,
there's been like twenty guys in the past year here
and there's nothing in the yard. You could be the
best detectors in the world and like you won't even
find like a poll tab in the yard.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Wo wow.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, it's it's rough.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Teresa Treasure Hunter wanted to mention she is her her
house is in Rockwall. Oh, Rockwall, Okay, yep, so it
must not be too far away.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
She's over like on the east side of the Metro.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah. Cool, excellent.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
She's wonderfully wonderful. If you ever get a chance to
dig with her, I highly recommend it. Wonderful person and
a lot of fun to be out there swinging with.
She got the greatest pair of the like headphones I've
ever wore in life. They're amazing, says triesa along the
top and like gold. It looked really good on Ken's
head too, did.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Hilarious. Hey, let's uh, let's talk about something. I got
a picture here, I want. I've been just salivating to
get these up here and show people.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
So and I'll do my best try to explain what
we're looking at for the audio listeners.

Speaker 3 (19:30):

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Right, So let's let's pull this first one here. There's
a lot going on in this picture. You've got lead,
you've got silver, and you've got gold. I mean, what
more can you get as a detectorist. So, uh, this
first one tell us a little bit about uh, you know,
was this all on one hunt? Yes?

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Actually this was all one hunt. And uh just fair warning,
I think two or three of those bullets weren't mine.
We just it was a group hunt. So we use
that to of prop up some of the fines. So
some of those bullets are not mine. But the coin
and the ring of mind. So I was out in
Missouri and one of the chatters, Chris Himsot you might

(20:11):
know him, I was. I was hunting with him and
a couple of other friends, uh, Becky Mackie and the
Chatterital she was there. She uh, she was there. Found
some pretty cool stuff too. But we got permission that
Chris had had. I was just looking for some civil
war stuff in the area, and I was like, Hey,
this this field looks great, and Chris was like, oh,

(20:34):
I think I know that person. Let me. Let me
reach out to him. And so he reached out, got
the permission, and we walked that field for quite a while.
We started out somewhere else and then walked into the
field where this little campsite was, and we kind of
went to like the higher ground area of the campsite
because there was a creek right there on the property

(20:56):
and we weren't really finding anything on the higher ground.
And then one of our friends went down into like
the low ground kind of like swampy area that would
flood and just dug one of those bullets next to
the set of dime and it was It was just
strange because one of the things that I'd always looked
for is like a kind of high ground for camp sites,
because you know, the soldiers didn't want to be down

(21:16):
in the muck. For the most part, our thought behind
this was it was like a single day camp, you know,
just a one day thing, and then they moved on.
But he dug that one bullet and as soon as
I saw that bullet coming out of the ground, It's like, oh,
it's on. So we started digging, dig and digging, and
those bullets are like just a fraction of what we
found there. That was just to get the photo of

(21:38):
the coin and the ring actually to the left of
the seeded dime kind of in the back you can
see there's a teardrop bullet.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I was gonna ask, so the two behind the coin,
those aren't tear drops there?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
I want to say we we id'd them as like
Bartholomew like forty something Bartholomew's or pistol bullets. Yeah, something
like that. I have to look at it again, but
we we.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I love those tear drops. Drops are so fun to find,
so beautiful. Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
You know, that was actually the first dropped one i'd
ever dug.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Was there.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
I had probably dug fifteen or so fired ones, but
I'd never dug the drop one until we got into
that camp.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Man.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, we dug a lot of round balls. There are
a ton of round balls. We think it was an
early war camp, probably like sixty one or so and
uh uh, Chris and Becky and another friend kind of
like fanned out after it slowed down a little bit,
and I just kind of dug in. I was like, man,
this is like, this is where the camp is, and

(22:39):
we hadn't found the ring of the coin yet. So
I dug in, and I dug the coin first and
was like, oh my god, that's you know, that's amazing.
I love finding that.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Was that was that your first seated No.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
No, no, I've dogged my first seated gosh coming up
on ten years ago now, But no, that was a
I was just thrilled to find that. Anytime you and
a coin in a civil war camp is just exciting, man,
because you just don't know what it's going to be.
It could be anything. And then it really slowed down,
but I just kept digging all those camp lad signals,

(23:11):
which are like super low. You know, they don't sound
very good. They're small because it's just tiny pieces of lead.
Sometimes it can be big, for the most part, it's
just like little tiny pieces. I just dug another. If
you guys are familiar with the Equinox eight hundred, that
ring was a nine to ten signal, kind of choppy
and just thought I was gonna be another piece of

(23:33):
camp lead. And I just I saw the gold. I
was like, I got gold, really love and this was
like shut up?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
So wow.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, and it doesn't have any markings or anything on
the inside. But you can't really tell them the photo
but it's like scrolls on one side and a serpent
on another.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I was going to ask you what, yeah, and then.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's the front is like a flat shield.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Wow. I see, Okay.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
I did some reading somewhere and I don't know how
true it is, but they read I read something about
them selling like soldiers patriotic rings. You can get them
in different metals, and this was potentially one. I don't
know how true that is, but it was just interesting
to read. I was like, oh, maybe that's what it was.
But there was nothing else from any period of time

(24:21):
other than Civil War where we were hunting there. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
That's what I was going to ask, like, knowing that
it was most likely a day camp with soldiers who
were the only ones. There are no cross contamination like
that legit belonged to a Civil War soldier. What an
incredible find. I mean that that the coin and bullets
are amazing, but that personalized item like wow, incredible.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I mean yeah, anytime you find something like that, it
comes to the surface and you're just like blown away.
So let's sk for audio listeners. What are we looking
at here? We're looking at a couple of round balls,
a couple spherical kind of projectiles, looks like maybe like
a three ringer, and then in the back there's a
tear drop laying there. And then you've got a you've

(25:07):
got a bullet that's got like a Ramrod compression on it,
and uh, an eighteen fifty three silver seated dime.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
It was a dime and it was a New Orleans
and New Orleans dime.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
M beautiful.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
And then this pretty little gold ring man so so
cool man, especially because you know where you're at. You know,
that's exactly who it had to come from, with the
soldiers that were there, no doubt. And it's got to
be a prize possession of yours, you know.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Oh yes, yes, I uh every now and then I'll
just bust it out and look at it and have
fond memories of the hunts I had I had with
friends before I moved away, because that was all found
up in Missouri when I lived up in Missouri.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, and Becky and Chris and the chat right now
there or just like Chris says, I was pretty excited
for him. I mean, Becky was. Becky said that Chris
was doing backflips over that ring.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
And Chris earlier said he was smiling remembering back now
living this whole thing. And that's what I love. That's
what I love him Metal detecting because you can look
at a find, you know, I can grab anything and
be like, oh, I knew exactly where I was when
I dug that, and who I was with and how
I felt when I uncovered it, and when I go
and look at it again, now I'm going right back there,

(26:30):
you know what I mean. So they're listening to this
podcast of US interview and you're you know, Kyle, and like,
they're going right back there, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
And that was the last treasure I dug before I
had the best treasure I've ever had, which was my daughter.
So man, that was the last before she was born.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Very cool. And now they all pale in comparison.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes the time, that's right, that's right. We won't tell anybody.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Except when it's two am.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I'm like, ah, no, congratulations man, than you.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Hey, the the next find you said, it's got a
pretty a pretty great story. Let's not let's not say
what it is first when we bring it up here,
I want to see if they can identify this in
the chat. So if you guys know what this is,
tell us in the chat right away, and then we
can kind of start in on the story. You said,
it's pretty good one. So you know what that is.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
That is a piece of cotton that has chain mail
on it. It's a piece of chain mail. Curious what
they call him? Curios? That was from am I getting close? No,
not getting close, not getting close?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
What do you guys think? Let us know in the chat.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
You see expand and I know that's not.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Four inches by three inches wide.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Maybe it's got shiny on it, it's.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Got inside it.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Right, Yeah, that's a coin.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
What what?

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Oh gosh with a coin inside?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah? Right right with this part, Oh my gosh, Okay,
I've got to know.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I've got to know what is it?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
So it's a it's a coin. First, I dug that
in Virginia and that's kind of why I brought up
Virginia earlier. So I dug this in the yard that
was for a house that was built in seventeen fifty seven.
The corner stone it was a it was an old
plantation house. The cornerstone on the house had a hands

(28:44):
carved date of seventeen fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
And it kind of goes back to, like I know,
the episode with Matt Howell. They have a lot of
pressure out there, probably for Civil War relics, but I
don't know how many people actually door knock out there,
because the gentleman that owned this property said, yeah, it's
probably been fifteen to twenty years since i had someone

(29:08):
out here. But when he was out there, he was
out there for like two weeks straight, so I mean
he still found a lot of cool stuff. But wow,
you know, we started there in the front yard, this
beautiful lush yard, and just walk up the pathway and
my buddy that I was with, his name was Michael.
He dug a flying eagle that was like the most
beautiful flying eagle I've ever seen. Doug, It's like jade

(29:31):
green with no or like erosion or anything. And he
dug a Civil War button same way. It looks like
it was dropped in like clay or something, you know,
it's so pristine. But this this coin purse right here,
It was along the walkway and it was like just
the most Obviously I thought it was gonna be like
a silver half dollar or a large cent and I

(29:55):
dug it out. I was super excited. I was like,
oh my god, this is my first like whole coin purse.
And I like shook it a little, got the dirt out.
I saw that there's a coin in there. I just
lost my marbles and uh and it ended up being
an Indian headpenny. I was like, oh yeah. I was like,
oh man, Like obviously it was like something else but.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Silver.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah, at least a barber man but right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
And what you see first when you started uncovering this,
did you see the snap first or the chain first?

Speaker 4 (30:26):
I actually saw the chain first, so I like it
was kind of in the side wall because believe it
or not, even though it's large, it was hard to
pinpoint because of it was a large signal.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Do you think it was like a necklace or something
or some.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Kind of I didn't know what it was at first
until I used my small shovel to get the top
out and as soon as I saw the top, I
knew what it was, and then I was excited. That
was when the juice just started flowing out. Like you know,
you started thinking about these things like oh man, like
there could be anything in there. Yeah, right, you know,
And that's part of the fun. You just never know
what you're gonna find, especially when you get a nice

(30:57):
permission and you're just like, oh man, I don't know
what I'm gonna find out here and go out there,
and most of the time it's just you know, junk,
But every now and then you get a sweet fine
like that, and it just keeps you invested.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
The best phrase I hear when I'm metal detecting is
when I bring something to my buddy and he's.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Like, do you know what that is?

Speaker 1 (31:15):
And when I when I hear that phrase, I'm like,
oh something, what is it?

Speaker 4 (31:21):
You know?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Because yeah, you know what?

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Hey, that only happens when you're standing in front of it.
Your buddy has a camera. You're standing in front of
him with a camera holding up a spoon and you're
pretending like you're eating off of it. You're being just
you know, a wise ass, right, and the guy behind
the camera goes, uh, there's writing all over that that
spoon there. Oh what, let me get up one of

(31:45):
the glasses. I thought it was just a spoon. Oh
my gosh, it's a commemorative spoon from the exposition of
in Paris.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
And yeah, that sounds very specific. That sounds like it's
very specific.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
That was just a general situation I just came up with.
That didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
That just happens to everyone.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah, you're like, Ken, you need some new glasses, man, Yeah,
you do. Explained the scene perfectly too. I was like
hanging it on my nose.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I'm like, yeah, stick it on your nose, you know,
like you're eating jello with it. Yeah. Do you remember
the year of that IHP in there inside there?

Speaker 4 (32:21):
It was eighteen ninety seven, I want to say, Okay,
so it wasn't too too old, but yeah it was.
It was a great triune.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, And man, I'm telling you, when I went out
there to Virginia, it was it was one. It was beautiful.
Virginia is a beautiful state. And I went there at
the perfect time of year. It was October, so everything
was just gorgeous and uh man, just digging out there.
Uh and like I said, the I got two permissions.
I went out there during COVID and so like no
one really wanted to answer the doors. But the two

(32:51):
permissions I got it was the same story. It was like, yeah,
you know, I've lived here forty years and I let
some guys hunt like twenty years ago or something. And
the other house, my buddy Michael I was with. Uh
we started going up the sidewalk towards the front door
and like another beautiful silver half signal and it was
a silver half. So I was just like, I was like,

(33:13):
I can't believe that there's all this stuff less than
these yards. Like that just doesn't happen in Texas, right, mm.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Hmmmm, excellent. I was looking.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
I thought I saw a question up there, But.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Where were you in Virginia? So that was in general?

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, that was that was the Shanandoah Valley what yep.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Okay, see, I lived in Winchester with Northern Virginia there Winchester, Apolow,
West Virginia and uh cherry blossoms and uh that valley
through there is probably one of the most incredible places
in the United States by far.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
You know, I love it.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
In October, oh gosh.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, and I've been to like the Front Range in
Colorado and whatnot, and like it has its own beauty
and like the deeper in the Rockies and even more beautiful.
But like there's just something about like the old grace
of the Appalachians and the Blue Ridge Mountains, like yeah,
you're there and it just it it's just so beautiful. Yeah,
it's like gentile. It's not like that the rocky crags

(34:11):
you get in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
That's right. And I mean you you're your head's on
a swivel when you're back east there in Virginia because
every every intersection, you know, you've got a historical marker,
You've got a story on these boards. Like I mean,
I don't know how you get from point A to
point B having to stop and read everything.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yep, it's a it's an amazing it's gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
When I was digging recently with my friend Jason, we uh,
we were.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
On this site that was all slate. There was this
slate rock everywhere. So you go to put your shovel
in and you just like tink, just immediately stop. So
then you go, you know, four inches of the left
chink and then you get to the backside. So your
fourth the fourth side you tried just sunk in all
the way to the hilt.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Of the shovel, and you're like man, and you.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Go to pry it up, and you think you're on
bearing like a big target like this because you see
the whole earth move, but it was actually just giant
slate rocket slate moving covering everything.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah. Nice, all right, Rocky train, Yeah, let's go. How
about this something This is on my bucket list right here.
This is a look at it's a small silver coining
got the star of David on it with a shield

(35:29):
in the middle the United States of America eighteen fifty one.
Very nice and opposite side. Look at this, it's that's
like a unique side to this. You know, no other
coins really have this type of of design with the
with you know, the three eyes in the middle, with
this huge decorative decorative scene.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Very different, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
It's completely different than than any other coin that we've
ever minted. But one hundred percent on my bucket list here,
I have never uncovered it and covered this. So tell
us a little bit about this one.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Was that your no, actually my first one, and I'm
going to back up from this, uh, this coin right here.
My first one was a week before I dug that one,
and I wasn't even in a field. I was in
yards for both of these. Wow, it was the weirdest
thing the the yard that we'll see later in the

(36:28):
presentation from some of the other finds. I dug my
first trime and when I dug it, it was like
this little, tiny, like bubbly blackened piece of something. And
my friend and I thought it was like some sort
of aluminum play money or something. But I looked at
it and I said, man, that just looks like a

(36:50):
piece of silver. So I stuck it in my mouth
and it clapped against my teeth, and I said, yep,
that's silver. I don't know if you guys have ever
done that with a silver coin, but it's like it's
a very stinct feeling when you clack the silver on
your teeth, it's like, oh, it's like immediately you just
know it's silver.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
And Ken calls of putting it in the dishwasher.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yep, and uh, I'm telling you, you cannot you cannot
tell what it was. There's like one you see how
there's stars along the edge of the crescent there, we
saw like one or two of those stars and we
were like, okay, hit the trime, just based on the
size and how it was ringing in. Funny enough, it
was in a campfire that we think Civil War soldiers

(37:31):
had made in that yard. That that trime is actually
on YouTube on a gentleman's channel. His name is Bob,
but he was looking for a trim and on the
way out. No, no, not not pastor Bob.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
His name.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
His channel name is like Fins and Fines or something
like that. Okay, we we were talking about times and
stuff beforehand, because I just dug my first and I
was like, man, I would love to get one that
has some detail on it. And he Bob was like,
oh yeah, He's like, I've never dug one, would love
to dig one. And we go out here to this

(38:12):
house and this house had been hunted many many times
by some friends of mine before I got to get
on there, and there wasn't much in the yard. There's
like some flat buttons and whatnot. And I went up
to the front walkway again like I always do, just
because I love going up the front walkways of these
old properties, and I got this signal that was just

(38:37):
like almost triple tapping, and there was like a signal
off to the side, so I was like, let me
just clear this triple tapping signal that sounded like a
zinc penny. I was like, I'm just gonna get out
of the way so I can hear this other signal
like a little bit better. Well, I got down with
my pinpointer and I didn't even use my shovel because
I just like kind of pinpoint at the ground and
it went off. So I like moved the like grass

(38:57):
and leaves out of the way and like use the
pinpointer again. And as soon as I did that, it
was a little bit wet out and the dirt just
like slid off the top of the coin and there's
just like this bright, shiny trime just sitting there. And
I was like, oh my gosh, and my friend what
I was like, dude, there's a trium like on the surface.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Wow. Wow.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yeah, that was it was literally maybe a beautiful condition, man. Yeah,
it was like dropped the day it was minted, essentially.
I know you can't tell on the photo, but in person,
it's like it's a super thick coin, like there's not
much wear to it at all.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, it's beautiful. Wow.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I was reading about it. I think it was one
of the first coins that didn't feature.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Lady Liberty m ever minted. Everyone thought it was very
unusual at first.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Teresa, I'm using the Equinox eight hundred.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
There you go, There you go, great machine man. You
probably know that like the back of your hand.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Yeah, oh dude, I could almost Like it's to the
point now where I can pretty much tell you what
I'm about to dig with it before it comes out
of the ground. Obviously, when I dug my first gold coin, funny,
we'll get to that, but I'll get to that part
of the story later. Yeah. But yeah, Like if if

(40:19):
I'm in a place and I knew that I'm on
a spot that's going to be producing something, and I
get a signal, I can almost, like, you know, fifty
to sixty percent of the time, I can almost smack
whatever's about to come out of the ground.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
By the date, Like if it's a coin with the
date and the mint mark the date.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
I haven't tried that yet, but next time I should
do that. Like I'm about to dig in eighteen forty
eight large sin.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
And then it comes up and.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Everyone whoa yeah, right right. So this next one, out
of out of all the pictures that you sent and
we talked about offline and stuff, this one might be
my favorite one. You guys listening live or even on
the replay here, stick around or you're gonna want to
look at these pictures that we've got going on here,

(41:06):
because this next story just absolutely blows me away, just
the personalized side of it. So we've got this here,
and why don't you describe it and tell us a
little bit about what this is? Uh?

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, it's a sterling silver stamped on the back, but
the front of it is like a little bar and
on that bar is a name engraved. It says c
C hemenway And on either side of that bar, it's
like a lion biting with a teeth like coming over
the bar it so.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Holding it in the in the teeth, Oh my gosh, yep, it's.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Almost dragon, right, kind of almost dragon.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Almost almost like a dragon.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
I always thought it was a lion, but you know
now that you're you're mentioning that it could be a dragon.
I just don't know what kind of influenced this gentleman.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Like these the detail on the teeth coming through holding
it in place. Yeah, and then it crossed my eyes
to it. Yeah, that's very cool man, with the wrinkles
in it. It's incredible.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah. And when I found it, I you know, at
first I saw like the lion and I didn't see
the engraving on it. I was wondering. Now, I was like,
what is this? And I could tell it was silver,
but like, I didn't really clean it up until I
got home, and I was like, I was at and
I'll talk about this spot just because it's one of
the things that if anyone knows my Facebook, I posted

(42:29):
about it because of how happy I was. I was
at a place called the Him and Way House, and
so when I saw what I had found, I just
like lost my marbles. I was so excited. I was like,
oh my gosh, like this is like so amazing. That
was like that was found in twenty nineteen, and that
was I think what really like when I found that

(42:49):
and connected it to where I was, like, you know,
you can find Indian head pennies in an ear from
the eighteen hundreds or early nineteen hundreds, but when you
can find something that's personalized to the person that used
to live there and that the house is named after
I don't know it just it just it's so.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Exhilarating, whole nother level, right, yep, Like things step up from.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
There, You're like, whoa, yeah, this is what this is.
This is what it's about.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
So how long is that thing? Probably a couple it's.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Like two two and a half inches wide, maybe like
an inch tall or so, so it's not too big.
It used to have a pin on the back, but
it's broken off and it was a little bit bent
when I dug it. That's why it's able to stand up.
It's because it's just slightly bent. So I used I
think it used to be flush. Do you want me

(43:42):
to tell them what I think it is?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah? A thousand percent. Yeah. So the story is through
your research. You obviously researched this this house, the owners,
and who this person was so and from all that research,
you kind of found some information that this could directly
uh you know, really back to So, yeah, give us
a story. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
So when I finally saw the engraving on it, I
looked into the family online and I found that this
gentleman was a the one there on the left if
you're if you're watching, he was a president of a
local college just after the Civil War for some time.

(44:23):
So the only thing I could really think of that
you know, this would be for was maybe something related
to him in the college, like a name plate, you know,
something that he would have like on a suit or something,
or maybe you know, something near his desk. I'm not
entirely certain it had a pin, so I assume it
went like somewhere on his breast somewhere.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Wow, how do you spell his last name? There?

Speaker 4 (44:49):
It's h E M M. Let me look at a
closer photo real fast.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Somebody was asking if it was the writer Hemingway. It's
not heming Way. It's it's actually spelled differently. It's heming
hemin Way.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Yeah, h E M E n w A y. It's
hem and waymon wah him hem and way.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
W a y not w okay yeah m h M
M h M E n w a y yep okay.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Hem and way okay, there we go. What's C. C. Hemingway?

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Right?

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Hem?

Speaker 4 (45:30):
And it was Charles Carrol. Heman Way was his name.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I mean, I think your deduction is like it makes sense, right,
I mean, it's got his name and that fond I'm
in love with this fond here like that is what's
what's the timeframe we're talking here? Do you remember?

Speaker 4 (45:52):
So he was the president of that like after the
Civil War, like eighteen seventies into the eighteen eighties and
then and you know, just from the font and the ornateness,
I always just dated it to the Victorian period just
because of how like over the top it is almost
I mean the Victorian period. The houses are just like

(46:12):
so beautiful, and they had an eye for design. And
whoever made that is like a brilliant piece of metal
worker like he whoever made that deserves props. I wish
I knew, but there's no maker's mark on it.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
A wow, that would have been incredible for sure, and
what an incredible piece of credible story. But the story
actually continues, right you you were at the site and
you found some more things, some more personalized items that
you can actually yeah, but wait, there's more. There's more

(46:49):
here we go, how about this?

Speaker 4 (46:51):
So I found out a lot about this house and
this property and these people through this woman who owned
this ring. Her name was Ida him and Way and
I can't remember her her middle name, but it's it's
obviously a sea of some sort but her her name
was Ida Him and Him and Way, and as you
can see inside that ring, it's I C. H. So

(47:17):
you can actually find her memoir online and it talks
about this property, growing up there from before the Civil
War and not to be macab or anything, but there's
just some really interesting things that had happened there even
before the Civil War that dealt with like, uh, you know,
the disciplinary actions on slaves and just what she thought

(47:39):
of growing up with like a slave nanny. And then
after the Civil War or even during the Civil War,
she talks about soldiers like coming into their yard and
like demanding things from the family, you know, and she said,
like we were just as scared of the Confederates as
we were of the Union Army because we just didn't know,
you know, what they were going to do. So it's

(48:01):
a very interesting read. I'm sure if you look up
her name I to Him and Way it should be
in like the Boons like historical. You can read all
about the house and the the the lady's experience is there.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
That's awesome, man, Like that, I mean two pieces that
are just absolutely stunning. Yeah, have a does have a
mark on the inside. Besides the initials.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
It just said eighteen. There was no maker's mark, it
just said eighteen for eighteen carrot. And I know you
don't really have a point of reference, but that ring
is very chunky.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
It looks chunky, it looks it looks a little smaller too.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
It's it's small, but it could fit like on my
pinky finger. But it's super thick. It's probably the heaviest
gold ring I've ever found. I mean, and it's like
it feels like a rock in your hand when you're holding.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Wow. Well, Becky in the Chad just said, I'm drooling.
I did not know this, So, you know, Teresa says,
an incredible story. Yeah, I really wanted you to kind
of tell that story from from these finds, just because
you know, most of us you would love finding an
eighteen cared gold ring, a wedding ring, you know, with initials.

(49:13):
I mean, you know, you start doing that research, but
just to have that story connection to the house and
to that time period, and then you go read the
memoir on top of it, like, you know, I don't
want to know that wasn't the best time in the
United States per se, you know, but with what was
going on with slavery and treatment and those kind of
different things, but that is that is our history. We
can't can't change that, you know. And being able to

(49:34):
read that firsthand of what her her first hand view
of that was, and you're sitting there holding this ring
of hers, Oh my gosh, man.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
It's the memoir is you know. She she talks about
these experiences, but it's from a child like view. She
was only like six or seven when the war broke out,
and or maybe she was just a little older, but
again it's that child like Ennison she talks about. And
like one of the things they she mentions was that
the father like fake beat a slave in the back

(50:04):
to like twel the townspeople because the slave had done
something that had upset the townsfolk and they wanted the
slave to be punished. Well, she said that the father
took the slave in the back somewhere and told him
to play along. And I'm sitting there reading it, I'm like, well,
that would be amazing if that happened. But it's also
she was super young, you know, I'm sure she wasn't
actually there witnessing whatever was happening. And it's just interesting

(50:26):
to read about just a perspective of from a child essentially,
because you don't get that too much for from Civil
War era time period things.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Right, Wow, beautiful, beautiful, I've seen incredible. Yeah, the chat
right now is pretty much losing their mind over not
only those fines, but that story. So I'm so so
happy you got to share that with us. We've got
a lot more to get to for sure. Yeah. So
let's see, We've got let's see. I want to get

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into this one right here.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
That also came from the same yard as all the
other the same ones.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
So wait, there's more more of a story in fact,
not only just this incredible fine, but but the story
that goes along with it.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
So this this was found, oh gosh, maybe fifteen feet
away from the ring. It's like a black it's like
a black onyx setting on gold. I want to say.
It was like fourteen carrot gold with like a really
ornate like outer design and there's like a black onyx

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inlay with some more gold like swirl patterns in the middle,
and then right in the smack middle is a gemstone
of some sort. I could never figure out what it was,
but it was kind of clearish color. I want to say,
it was like some sort of like raw emerald or something,
but I could never idea it. I gave it to

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the landowner and she was thrilled with it. And on
the back is where it gets really interesting.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
The story develops even further. Yep. The back is resumed
in here. Yep.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
I know it's hard to read if you're watching, but
I'll read it out for you since I've seen it before.
It says died twenty nine December eighteen thirty eight, and
so it's a remembrance brooch.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
And this was it looks like a Yeah, it's got
the pin area here and then at lockdown lower down
here the bottom Okay.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
To remembrance brooch. And I did some more digging, and
I want to say it was Ida's grandfather who had
passed away at that time, and I can't remember his
name for the life of me now it's been years
since I looked at it, but I want to say
it was her grandfather that died that day, and so
this must have belonged to her as well.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Grandma Ropes, Grandma Ropes Grandma's roats. Yeah, it's a it's
a beautiful piece. I know that.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Yeah, But tragically though, when we found it. Uh, that
is actually a photo of me. After I put it
back together, I found it was whole. I gave it
to the landowner because it was something that was just like,
I know, you can't tell the beauty of it when
it's in the hand there, but out in the sun,
it was just like one of the most gorgeous pieces

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of jewelry I'd ever seen.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Beautiful.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
And I gave it to the landowner and we walked
inside and we went over to the sink and started
washing it off. And I think she just put a
little bit too much pressure. That black onyx bit with
the gemstone like popped right off. Yeah. I was real upset.
I was like, oh, man, like I wish that didn't happen,
But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Wow, are you ready for a name?

Speaker 3 (53:57):
I might have a name for you, Kyle.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Sure, I knew you were. I knew you were up
to something back there.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
So Ida's grandfather was Thomas Shackelford.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Yeah, he was the one that had the plantation.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
And you're to date for did you find this date
date years eighteen thirty five? Oh, just thirty eight thirty eight?

Speaker 4 (54:21):
This at thirty eight, I'd have to look into the
thing again. But I want to say it was Ida's
relative of some sort. I want to say it was
a grandfather, but it could have been someone else as well.
I had to go to Diane's.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Probably, I was going to say, probably by Saturday's going
to have belonged to.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Their location.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Somebody will take a pictures relative is with Miles, Yeah, yeah,
he loves doing the research on this kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Yeah. And I thought about donating some of this to
the museum that was in town, but unfortunately that museum
kind of closed down, Like all this stuff is still there,
but I don't know if it does any like public
tours anymore. So I just held off on donating it
because I thought it would have been an amazing piece
to display for the town's history because this family was
very influential. They were a very well regarded family.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
M beautiful piece, very cool, wow, And I just love
the story that goes along with it, right, Like, just
incredible stuff here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I find that it's all shiny and you know, impressive looking,
and then you start digging into you see some writing
and then you figure out what it says, and you're
going down the rabbit hole with it and then it
opens up to all these other pieces you had found there,
and it's pretty pretty awesome.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
I found another interesting piece that I didn't send a
photo of, but it's a silver crescent with like a
little face on the moon, like a little crescent. So
think of like the trim crescent, thin crescent. It looked
like that, but I have like a like a like
a full circle around it. So like the crescent was

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on the one side, and then there was an opening
on the other side of the circle, so it was
like a crescent and then like a big opening, but
the circle was like the whole thing. There was just
an opening and then there's the crescent. It had a
face drawn in the crescent, like a super ornate face.
And doing some research on the county, it was actually
a very well known county for bushwhackers. They were constantly

(56:24):
going there and doing things. And I read one of
the bushwhacker accounts of their uniform. They were actually known
to have gone to this town and have stayed there
for three days. And I was reading an account that
was written in like nineteen oh four of like one
of the dudes that rode with William Quantrill and like

(56:46):
bloody Bill, and this was actually I think Bloody Bill's
he was involved in the town was Bloody Bill, and
he was talking about their uniform and they said it
was like a certain color jacket and everything, and then
they had a hat with a plume on it, and
the plume was pinned to their hat with a silver crescent.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I never could tell if that was time period or not,
or if that was what it was from. But I
also found Civil War bullets, like drop bullets and Camp
Lan That's where I think that trime came from. That
burned trime I found was in the same yard. And
one of the Civil War bullets I found it was
like a cult dragoon bullet and I had the number
four carved into the side of it, and so you know,

(57:33):
something was happening there during the Civil War. And I
found that silver crescent kind of in the area that
all that other Civil War stuff came from. So I
don't know if it was related, but it would be.
It's exciting to think it was.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yeah, absolutely. That's what I have to do when we
find these things is fill in the blanks and linked
stories together. You know, from twenty twenty five, all the
way back to eighteen sixty one, Like what we got
to connected somehow? Oh gosh, you had mentioned, uh, controls,
raiders oders wore red pants. Not to be confused red legs,

(58:14):
of course, No, I can't confuse those.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Those red legs stood out.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Those red legs stood out. How about the most recent
find that you had here? You want to talk about that?
I want to get into that one.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Sure, I'm more than that to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Oh that closed pin you mean that nineteen forty two
close he found? It was me amazing, Oh my god,
you kidding me? Like it actually still worked? It actually
it actually still worked? Can you believe it? Okay, that's
all we have time for tonight, good night everybody.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
No, we got to talk about this, this crazy find
right here. So this happened not too long ago, and
uh god, I would just need to hear to hear
excitement and all that kind of stuff here. So tell
us what we're looking at here. I think if we
see it, we know what it is. But tell us

(59:08):
for the audio listeners.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
That is a It's actually the smallest coin the US
has ever minted. It's very yellow in color. Unfortunately, there's adult.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Almost shiny it's almost shiny.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
It is almost shiny. One could almost say it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
It's it is beautiful.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
But it's a gold coin. It's a one dollar gold coin.
It's my first been looking for one for ten years.
Finally one just about a month ago. So I was
I was very very It's funny because I thought I'd
do a gold dance and whatnot. But I was kind
of stunned, like I didn't know what to say. I
was just like, I was just like I got gold.

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That was about all I could muster, and I was
just like wow, like and it kind of goes back
to what I was saying, like when I was well,
I could like guess what I'm about to dig. So
I knew I was on a site that could have
all sorts of stuff, and I was just like, oh,
this eleven twelve signal could be a gold coin. Oh,
this one could be a gold coin. Oh this one

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should be a gold coin. And then for whatever reason,
this is the only signal that I didn't even think.
I was just like, I guess I'll dig it. And
then I was just like just flung it up and
the dirt and I was just like, oh my god,
I got gold. It's just like dumbfounded, and like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I said, it take you a second like to realize
what you're looking at, like honestly, like because it's gonna
show your mind away. Yeah, I know. Ken did the
same thing when he found his was you're expecting it
to be anything but that that is probably the furthest
thing that you ever could have thought. And when you
pull that out, it you know, the connections between the

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firing of all that in your brain and like you
got to wait for everything to kind of connect up
for you to understand exactly what you just are looking at.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Yep. And just the the great lengths I went to
to get this coin was like it just shocked me
when I saw the gold edge, and like like I said,
it was the one signal that I didn't even think
to myself it was going to be a gold coin.
And funny enough, we had just started digging that day.
That was my first hole that day. Like I got

(01:01:23):
out of the car, walked like forty feet and boom,
first hole, gold coin, and I just like it literally,
I just was like I looked at it and it
took me probably three or four seconds to even say
anything to my friends and I was just like I
got gold, and like I was just like dumbfounded. I
thought I was going to get up and do like
a happy dance and like you know, act like a fool,

(01:01:43):
but it just didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
So how much longer did you look around there for more?

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Yeah, what I'll say is we we couldn't stay there
any longer because something happened. So it was like I
dug that coin and then something happened and we had
to leave, like immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Please please came and chased you off the property.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
I wish it was please.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
There you go, Oh, there you go? Yeah, And uh,
I mean this was this was the reason I reached
out to you, because you know, I'd seen this on
Facebook and social media and stuff, and I wanted to
reach out and congratulate you because again, this is this
is something that you don't expect. This is probably maybe
number one on almost everybody's bucket list to ever find
and people that have been going forty to fifty years

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of detecting have never never dug one. So you know,
I wanted to congratulate you and welcome you to the club,
thank you, and uh, you know, I I just it's
such a special special find, you know, and it's it's
just absolutly amazing. I want to look at the back too,
because we've got some interesting stuff on the back going on.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Yeah, tell us about that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
So, so, just like a brief thing, like my right
and this is it was in an old military camp.
And my theory is that the wreath is still there,
but the coin where it has the date and the
denomination of the coin, it's pretty much worn smooth. You

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can see the top of like the one for the
one dollar, and then like where the date is normal,
you can see the edge of the one but everything
else is like pretty much worn smooth. So I think
it was just a soldier sitting there, bored out of
his rocker, sitting there just rubbing on his coin. And
you know, that's the only thing I can think. I
was like, it's such an odd ware pattern that it

(01:03:37):
would wear just right there in the middle and not
anywhere else on the coin. It was like a normal
circulated coin.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yeah, almost like that was the fidget spinner of.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Its very tiny, very tiny fidget spinner.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Would he would fidget with it and just run it
rub it off, because there's no other way that could happen. Yeah,
not because that where no kause I found this exact
coin at fifty three, right, so, uh, you know, a
different year, but it's the one in the dollar in
that in that center. Are not any higher than that wreath,

(01:04:13):
you know what I mean? Or or I mean, it's
all pretty equal relief there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
So is this a fifty one? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Okay, Yeah, there's the bottom of the one. Like I'm
trying to make out these, you know, as you're talking
about the numbers. I can see the bottom of the
one right here. I don't know if I see maybe
the five right here, and then I saw the one here,
so and that was.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Like we were we were looking at it and we're
like we had to like really squint at it out
in the field to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Yeah, Ohio, roller hunter is a great idea. I could
have been trying to turn it into a love token.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
It's possible. They're like that little divot there that's not dirt.
That's like some sort of vertigrius the right here, No,
to the top left, you see that like little yeah,
that little brown mark. Oh this, yeah, that's not dirt.
That's like some sort of vertigraates or something. I tried
cleaning it off and it won't come off. It's like
stuck to the coin. So I mean it's very possible

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he could have been trying to make some sort of
weird love token.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Right, and describe what you know, back in you know,
hundreds of years ago, people making love tokens. What was that?
What was the idea behind that?

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
So my understanding it was to give to their loved
ones as like a form of love. You know, like
if you went through all the effort to wear off
a coin and then engrave it in a very intricate
way and give it to someone, it was like one
of the greatest forms of love at the time. I

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know they did something similar in England, where like they
bent the coins in certain directions. I'm not too familiar
with that because I haven't gone to England, but I've
read something about that they would like bend the one
side of the coin up, on the other side of
the coin down. Yeah, as like a love token.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
And I found a wiped coin and I couldn't idea it,
you know, I was just ecstatic. I found silver in England, right,
and it's about the size of a dimesh And I'd
put it on social media and the way that you
look at it. Somebody was like, that's a love token.
They had just on the edges, just bend it down
a little bit and bend it up a little bit,

(01:06:23):
not not you know, not very far into the middle
of it, but just right on the edge they bent
it down. And then right on this edge they bent
it up, and it was I was like, oh my gosh,
that's exactly what it is. That was exactly it. So, yeah,
the love tokens are so beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Yeah, imagine messing up. You're like halfway through the engraving,
you and just like mess up the coin.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Oh man, start over, start over.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I think he was trying to make it into a
pig spinner, that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Yeah, that's great. Yeah, he was going to jewel it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
He was going to be jewel it next put some
jewels on there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I love that idea. I love that idea that you know,
maybe he was leaving you know, the wreath and everything,
you know, intact and then just going to do something
in the middle here, uh as the love to I
think it's a great idea. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Yeah, and it's it's part of the mystery that also
is one of those things that just drives my love
for the hobby because you find stuff and you go, man,
I just wonder what this was for? What were they
doing with this? Like it's just one of those things
that you sit there and you try and figure out,
you know, what the most plausible scenario is for whatever

(01:07:44):
you're looking at like this. I'm like, when I found
it and I was out in the field and I
looked at it, I was like, man, my first thing
I said to my friends was, man, it looks like
he just sat there and rubbed on it, like forever.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Were you shocked at how small it is? It is small?

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Yeah, you know. When I found it, it actually took
me like a little bit longer to pinpoint than normal
because I was just like, it's such a small coin.
I had my pinpointer on the highest sensitivity, but I
guess it was just deep enough that it wasn't picking
it up. And then I finally got a hit on
the pinpointer, and I like, I dug down deeper than
I thought, uh, than it actually was, because I thought

(01:08:19):
it was deeper, but it was actually a little bit
more shallow, and I flung the dirt up and that's
when I saw it, like kind of fall on the
dirt on the side of the wall. I just saw
the gold rim.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Oh whoa, Oh my gosh, it's so exciting man. Yeah,
it's small.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
It's smaller than a trime, Like if people ever ever
held a small try and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Yeah, I thought so. Ohio Rolla Hunter said, is a
one millimeter smaller than a trime? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I think it's twelve millimeters is the gold coin? I
believe it's twelve and the trime I don't know if
it's one or two higher than that, but is it
pretty pretty close? It was pretty close, but definitely smaller.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
But may's looking up trime. But uh that brings me back, dude,
T was fourteen tryme was fourteen fourteen milimeters? Yeah, yeah,
the uh so brings me right back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Kyle. I found the same one dollar go coin and
same type of experience where you fling that out or
you see it and you know what it is, or
you don't know what it is, and then when you
realize what it is, like you just your world melts.
Like I had the same type of reaction physically that
you would get like if you were almost killed, you know,

(01:09:35):
a huge adrenaline rush. Yeah, completely dry mouth, immediately inability
to kind of think so well, and just kind of
like ears almost ringing, kind of a flush into your
face like it was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
It affected me big time. I just didn't know what
to do.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Yeah, I remember watching that video of your your.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
I had to back up. I didn't want to touch it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Yeah, I don't know what to do colored me because
I watched that and I was like, man, I need
to get me one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Just never would have known, never would have guessed in
a million years, especially where I was detecting. There was
just no not even not even a chance, because we
just don't find coins in some of the places we hunt.
Most of the time, we're hunting in places where we
just don't find coins.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
That's what my friend was saying. He was like, Yeah,
we weren't even thinking anything was going to happen, and
then you found that, and we were like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Oh my gosh, right, it's just crazy and go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
What was terrible about the day that I found that
gold coin is we're with a friend Beth, and Beth
at that point had found the most amazing fines on
that property.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
She found two of them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
She found some nineteen thirties navy eagle button, two of
them ten backs, and what were they doing there in
the middle of this you know, backyard in middle of Colorado,
you know, and we were just we sent pictures to
Riley and Riley was like, oh, yeah, it's a nineteen
thirties ten back eagle nighbor. But we're like, you gotta

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be kidding me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Are you talking about like the little ones that went on,
like the kepi hats?

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Oh okay, gotcha, real little, real little yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
And she found two of them, and it was like,
oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
And then I come up with that gold coin and
it kind of overshadowed things, but you know, it did
because we were excited, but still they were still just
the most amazing finds that she that she pulled there, and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
I think it went back to that property and found more.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
You guys have some great spots out there. I'm telling you, like,
just from some cursory research and not that I was
gonna come out and hunt, but it was just like
I was just interested in it because you know, trails
come from the from the east and they head west,
and so I was just looking. I was like man,
there's probably some great spots in Colorado, and I mean
all over you know, people just don't realize, like even

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places like Alabama, Mississippi, and like West Virginia, Like gosh,
West Virginia has some amazing spots too. Yeah, my my state.
I live in Texas. It's one of the things I
haven't touched on was the Republic of Texas. Like sure,
and Texas had its own army. They had their own
uniforms and buttons and stuff, and they're incredibly rare. But

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there it's so much fun to hunt for like you
just you don't I don't know of any state in
the country that just doesn't have at least a couple
sites that aren't just could be amazing to hunt, like Colorado,
you know, hell, even the Oregon in Washington, Like you
look at the Willamette Valley where the Oregon Trail ended

(01:12:33):
and that started in the eighteen thirties. There's eighteen thirties
home sites in Oregon somewhere, like you know, Like, there's
there's some old stuff out there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Sure is, you know, and it's fun to go look
for it, especially when you're able to find it right
yes off and then you're just like hallelujah, like like touchdown,
you know what I mean, It's like you know, I'll
spike the ball. Oh my gosh. It all paid off
and we found it. Like I've been recently doing a
lot more research on some of the trail systems that

(01:13:05):
Tony and I used to hunt because you know, Tony,
we got to get back on that, man, you know
what I mean, we were doing so well with it
and stuff, and yeah, we just need to further that
on because we surely didn't exhaust it, not by long shot.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
No, we scratched the surface on that trail, that military trail.
I mean the sites that the two three sites that
we were on there. We hunted that for a year
and a half. And and that's you got to figure
that's just one, one, two three sites right right within
each other. You just go up and down that trail.

(01:13:39):
Just find those those spots where they were just doing
the one the one night camps.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
You know that's near a.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Sting or something near near high yeah high ground, near water,
and and you're gonna come across you know, I think, Uh,
let's see, I met I met some friends out in
Kansas who said they had come across a one night camp,
and all of a sudden it was nothing, you know.
I mean, you're you're just trying to find it, right,
I mean, this is our general area, and then all

(01:14:05):
of a sudden it was like boom, We're on it.
And I mean there were buttons and bullets and I
mean just coming up left and right for a one
night camp, you know. And those are those are all
over the place, especially Colorado when you know they're out here,
traveling so far out here to protect against the Indians
and settlers moving and all this kind of stuff. They're
all over the place. We just got you got to

(01:14:26):
do the research and then you got to put boots
on the ground. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
And I know the East Coast has it like easier
in terms of like where because you know, when I
was in Virginia hunting, I was like, man, I feel
like I could just walk into any field here and
find something sure. And I think that's what most people
think about. It's like, oh, it would be a lot
easier to find something there. But man, like some of
the stuff you can find just in any state is
just like like in Texas, like Texas goes back to

(01:14:53):
the fifteen hundreds. There's a French fort built in Texas
in the fifteen hundreds. Like there's some old stuff here
and it's it's one of those things that you know,
most people don't even realize. I think there was a
fort that was like abandon and they buried like some
cannons in Texas and the archaeologists recently found those cannons.
And those cannons were buried in the sixteen hundreds, like

(01:15:15):
it's insane. They buried them because the Indians were like
killing everyone at the fort, and so they buried the
cannons and left and abandoned the fort and archaeologists just
dug it up. And there's like I think it was
like six or seven cannons that they just found recently.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
And it's like it's like French and Spanish and all
sorts of other stuff. So you just never know what
you'll find.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Yeah, you got some great history in Texas for sure.
For sure. We had a question come in that I
want to make sure that we do ask you about
before we run out of time. But Ohio relic hunter asked,
what is your strangest find? You know, it's putting you
on the spot, but something that's that's kind of the
strangest maybe story or object.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
I mean story wise, I could go into like all
this strange people I've met.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Oh yeah, we got to hear some of those.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Uh my buddy and I and I'll tell the town
name just because it's it's funny to me because I yeah, yeah, well,
don't go to his house. We were miners at the
time actually, so he probably should have gone to jail.
But I uh, I was out with a friend and
we were door knocking in Sherman, Texas and went up

(01:16:23):
to this guy's house and knocked. I was the one knocking.
My friend was in the car, like like barely paying attention,
I think, and the dude just answered the door butt naked,
like just nothing on it all, and me, being me,
I was just like, well, I got to ask him,
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
So hey, So he answered the door, I mean you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Have and uh, you know, I hate being this way
just because it's not like what I normally like to do.
But like I gave my spiel and he said, yep,
I just like to see what you find. So we
dubbed that house anyways. We found a lot of stuff
and I didn't want to knock on the door again.
So we just left without showing him what we found.
And like I said, I'm not not normally normally like that,

(01:17:05):
but like I didn't want to go through that again.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
So he wasn't like coming out and leaning over you
and no, no, he went back.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Over your shoulder.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Yeah, what do you got.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
In terms of fines? I don't really. I don't have
like a quarter hoarder like whitch jar thing, but you know,
I found just things in strange places, like you know,
the merry widow's condom tens that you'll find occasionally. I
found one in the middle of a courthouse lawn, like
in downtown, Like just in the courthouse lawn, Like what
was this doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Like it's like a for they were going away for
a while and they had to get everything before they left. Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
And I'm waiting to find and waiting to find a
three married widows ten with a brothel token.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
On the inside rattling around. I kept that my three
married widow ten.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
That'd be great.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
Yep. That was in a place out in like West
Texas where there's like new trees or like anything to
hide behind. So like, what would they do out in
the middle of the court out square.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Yeah. Oh my gosh, wow.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
I think our grandparents were freakier than we think.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
That's true. That's why I have eight aunts and uncles.
I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
I come from a Catholic family, so I understand me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
That's exactly that. That's right. We got one more find
I wanted to show real quick here. I think this
is probably number two on bucket listers, behind the gold coin.
But we've got an incredible silver coin right here. Oh yeah, wow, geez,
tell us what this is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
So the interesting story behind this coin is I was
out with my buddy that I was telling you about earlier,
John Sherman, and after he had taught me a lot
of different things, and I was like starting to flesh
out sites on my own and like invite him along.
I found a site that dates back to the Republic
of Texas era. And the interesting thing about the site
is it had an old family cemetery on it. Well,

(01:19:02):
in the family cemetery, one of the gentlemen that signed
the Texas Declaration of Independence was buried in that cemetery.
His name was Alcorn was his last name. And the
cemetery is super small and it had a little tiny
brought iron fence around it. So we were looking for
the home site, and our belief was that in those

(01:19:22):
old family cemeteries he was buried in eighteen forty four,
and then those old family cemeteries they wouldn't have been
very far from the actual house site. So we were
hunting like close to the cemetery. We were not in it,
just nearby. And if you saw the site, you'd understand
why we were nearby. It was kind of close quarters
over there, but I was within eyeshot of his cemetery

(01:19:45):
or his gravesite in that cemetery when I dug this.
And the interesting thing about this is that the Texas
Declaration of Independence was signed in eighteen thirty six by
the gentleman that was buried like fifteen feet away from
where I just dug this coin. So that was pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
So this is a cap bust? Is it a dime
or halftime?

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
Half dime?

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Halftime? Wow? Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
That is really cool, beautiful YEP.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
And that's what like a lot of people in Texas
don't think that this stuff is in Texas, but I'm
telling you, like you can find cap bus like I've
heard of it coming out of Kansas. I've heard of
it coming out of Iowa. I don't know about Colorado
because you and Tony and Canadallly people I know that
dig in Colorado. Haven't heard about it coming out of Colorado,
but I'm sure it has at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
It would it would be extremely rare. I think the
earliest we found was, do you have forty four forty
four forty four earliest seeded that we've seen? Yeah, so
that's not too far off from here, but but still, yeah,
it would be it'd be pretty rare. Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
And I just I know there's a lot of these
things out there. They're just they're hard to find, but
if you put in the effort, you will eventually find
something like this. It took a lot of walking to
get to where this coin was. I mean we probably
walked like ten miles that day to get there. So
just going up and down, gritting the property, looking for
a house site, and.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Then you float all the way back.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
Right, And it was a very eerie day out it
was it was super like fog, like dense fog, and
the trees down there in that county are like super
big because it's one of the oldest settled counties in Texas.
And the trees were super big, and this is dense fog,
and there's that right up wrought iron fence in the

(01:21:39):
cemetery there, and it's super quiet out and you know,
just the hum of the machine essentially found that and
I was just like, I sat down and I was
just like, wow, this is this is just amazing finding
something like this on a day like this where it's
just like just me and myself and my thoughts. My
buddy John was there, but you know, I was lost

(01:22:01):
in the thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Yeah. I love how you just kind of you know,
with the signing of the of their independence and that
guy happens to be there in the cemetery and you
find this coin, Like what an incredible story to correlate
them all together. Just absolutely I love the story.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
Yeah, and we were about ten miles from where the
declaration was signedez Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Ties it all together.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
It does. Love it, absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
So what's next for you, Kyle? Oh, it's on your
bucket list now.

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
My friend, well, with my daughter, I haven't been getting
out as much and I was telling our friends that
I was like, man, I just I would love to
come out and just hunt this site and where I
found the gold coin, and just like find a gold coin,
that was my my My goal was to go hunt

(01:22:59):
this army site and find the gold coin. And then
after that, I was like, I just haven't had the
time because I had a daughter. I've had a daughter
and a job and everything, and I just don't have
the time to get out right now. And I said,
after this trip, I'm just gonna go and and hang
up the detector for a while, just because you know,
I'm not I'm not getting out and you know, finding
stuff anymore, and I just I want to focus more

(01:23:22):
on my daughter. And so that was the plan until
I found the gold coin and that just a little
fire under my ass. And now now I'm just rare
to go again.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
The boots on the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Yeah, I was trying to be the response. I got
to keep my hobbies.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
It's important. It's important to feed, you lead your soul.
Even though you know your.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
Daughter is definitely gonna do that for sure, But.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
It won't be too long till she's able to come
out with old dad and dig your targets for you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
I'll give her the pinpoint. She can have fun there Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Look, man, you've been an incredible guest. We knew we
would have fun with you for sure, and it's been
a blast.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Thank you for sharing your stories with us and our audience.
I know they love hearing it. Like five Mile Relic
hunter Larry said, I just love listening to the stories.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
That go along with everyone's fines.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
That's what makes it. You know, if you think metal
detecting is all about what you find, you'll soon learn
that it's more about what you learn from the experience
of being with friends and finding what you find and
kind of learning the stories behind it. And the deeper
you go, you know, further down the rabbit hole you go,

(01:24:37):
the more it enhances the experience of these sometimes a
little you know, rusty pieces of metal that we find,
anything with a name or a date on it. Man,
you just, you know, it can be very thrilling once
you uncover what it is and where it came from.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
Yeah, this hobby is I love the camaraderie as well.
It's like a lifelong memory. You go out and you know,
twenty thirty years from now, I'm sure I'll look back
and just have super fond memories of what I've what
I've done with friends.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Yeah, absolutely will, man, you will someday. Hopefully we'll get together. Man,
I'd love to you sometime, I'm sure, probably in our
future at some point, I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
So look, I'm cooking up a site down here in Texas.
Let me tell you, if I find it, it's gonna
be amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Excellent?

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
So if I do find it, you're welcome to come
down because it'll be Republic of Texas military buttons there.
And uh, if I find it, you'll probably never have
a chance to dig another.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
All right, Yeah, absolutely, can't wait. That'd be amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
Yeah, and even if not, I just it's be amazing
to hear your story and see you succeed in that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
There's nothing better, man than to succeed in the research
and have it pay off, you know, because we most
of the time it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Most of the time we do the research and we
go there and we're like, oh, man, we didn't find anything.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
It's like we know we're on the spot, right, But man,
when you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Do hit it absolutely crazy, absolute crazy exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
So any last words for you and then we'll put
you down in the green room. We'll kind of say yah,
goodbyes off the air. Are you okay with that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
Yeah, I just want to say thank you so much
for having me on. I've had a blast and I
always enjoy sharing stories and meeting new people, so this
was this is fantastic. Thank you for having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Quick quick question, how old are you Kyle? I'm twenty seven,
twenty seven day wanted to know if you had mentioned gage. Yeah,
still young man, and tell you what doing great man,
having a great time and finding the goods. It's because
you've been putting in the effort. But yeah, go enjoy
your daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
The detecting will always be here for you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
So we'll see in a bit. We'll put you down below.
We'll see in just second.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Thanks buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:26:46):
Thanks who i'd say, woof And I love to hear
people that are passionate about it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Stories. I love the stories. Man. I mean, you nail
it on the head. You like, it's not about what
is it? It's it's not about what you find, It's
about what you learn. Is that what you say? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
What I said?

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
If you want the T shirt and I can send
it to you for forty three forty three yep. It's
got the DAIS two emblem on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
The back of it. Ty five cents right there. Yeah.
The stories, you know, the things that he's found have
been absolutely incredible. But the stories that are connected and
how he connects the dots. Man, what a what a
head on his shoulders and uh again, you know, we
get done with these guests and we're like, you know what,

(01:27:38):
he's one of us, man, He's just one of us.
Here's one of us. Well, you know, yeah, absolutely, you know.
So I love it. What a great guest. Man. I'm
so glad we had him on.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
Yeah, me too, man, me too.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
It's great to meet him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
I know he's been around, uh it just never had
a chance to chat with him. So that was a
lot of fun. What do you got going on?

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Man? Let's see. If you guys want to find out
what I'm up to, just join me over at fifty
two eighty adventures over on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, all
the social media, all the video sites. Come see what
I got going on and leave me some comments. I
love chatting with you guys and messay. I was messaging
with a whole bunch of people today, So I love

(01:28:18):
the interaction, love, meeting people that I normally wouldn't get
to meet, and talking about the hobby that we absolutely love. Now,
I wanted to mention REALKU before I get off, We've
got an incredible guest next week. You guys are not
gonna want to miss our guest next week. We're gonna
have a great time. I'm not going to disclose any
information about it, but you're gonna want to join us
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
It's not a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Teaser, yes, all right, yeah, and you guys can find
me at Adventures in Dirt anywhere on social media and
also over at It's about Inches and Angles dot com
where I talk all about welding on teasing. Everyone, have
a great week, enjoy the weekend coming up, Be safe,

(01:28:59):
go find the great stuff and make sure you tell
us about it. We'll see you next Wednesday with another
great guest. Take it easy. See y'all from Relic Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Thank you so much for listening to Relix Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
We will see you back here next week for another
exciting guest.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Until then, get out and dig it all

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