Nov. 08/25 - Consciousness & UFO'S : Where the lines intersect w/ Melissa Cain

Tonight we talk UFO's & Consciousness

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the Contact Medalities Expo, Melissa Kane joining us here tonight.
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a fantastic show to that we have UFO experience or
we'll say contact me as well. And founder of Contact
Modalities Expo Melissa Kane joined in as fowers one and two.
Drew Banky with dapt Ours wrap up in Our Number
three along with Steve Stockton, tells untold missing person Mysteries

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and I think of just okay and we are back. Yeah.
So Drew Banky and our three, what tells un told
miss person or uh? The after hours wrap up Steve Stockton,
who tells in told Missing Person Mysteries, We're gonna jump
right on into the show. We're not going to delay
any as we bring up our guests for the evening.
Melissa Cain, Hello, Melissa, how are you?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Rob good? How are you?

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I am doing okay, I'm doing I'm I'm actually doing
better better than yesterday. Right. That's all we can do,
That's all we can hear. So, yeah, you know you
are a friend of a friend of a friend of
the show, A friend of a couple of friends of
the show, Drew Banky h and also Dev Shakti the awesome, awesome, awesome,

(02:27):
awesome Dev Shakti, if you're watching Deb's wy you know
I love you and we'll be seeing you soon as well. Yeah,
so I understand that that. Uh you know, Deb has
come on here multiple times and we've talked about this
Contact modelogys expos. He actually invited me to come down
one time, but I'm way out in California, so it's
kind of hard to logistically make that work. But uh,

(02:49):
it's it sounds like an awesome thing. I know. Drew
Banky I think he came there to speak last year.
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yep, he was there last May.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay, So if you would mind, and actually I think
I have a graphic for this up here, if you
wouldn't mind talking to everybody really quickly about what this
is the Contact Modalities Expo.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, basically, it's a conference in the Midwest. It's so
it's in southeastern Wisconsin basically, so it's not far from Chicago.
It's about an hour and fifteen minutes from Chicago. But
you know, I'm born and raised in Chicago. I live
in Wisconsin right now. I've been here for six years,
but we poor Midwesterners have been starved. So you're on
the West coast, you got all the big conferences going

(03:32):
on forever. You got big ones, you got little ones,
you got little in between ones. We have to travel
far and wide, spending Buco bucks just to see any
of our heroes in the contact community. So literally, a
little over a year ago, I had a download to
create this expo and then it was just like boom.

(03:53):
I just started working, working, working, working on it. And
my whole thought process behind it was I really wanted
people to experience these different modalities because my history is
they've they've just changed my life to such a degree,
many different types, and I'm so grateful the experiences and

(04:14):
the way it's enriched my life that I wanted to
be able to give people the opportunity to sample different modalities,
learn different things, see what sticks, see what clicks, see
what resonates with them, in hopes that they too have
the same effect and hopefully, you know, make their life better.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
And that's awesome. And like I said, it's definitely I
want to make it to one of these and this
is next year, so I think I'm going to just
put it in my plans to try to make this
event because I loved it so much that I just
I told her that I was going to come, so
I have to do it.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
So I would love you to come, please. Yes, she
told me about that when she invited you.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
For sure, as you said, you put this together, you
wanted to assemble a lot of the great minds in
the field, being that there aren't many events out there
in the middle of the country. You have a lot
of good names on here. You know, what could a
person who attends this expot expect. And let's even let

(05:12):
me go ahead and I have zoomed in photo here.
Let's go ahead and talk about some of these speakers
that you have on this list and what a person
could expect going next year to this.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well last year and again coming up in twenty twenty six.
We have Chris Bledsoe headlining the whole thing. I've been
bugging him for years, probably about five or six years,
to see if he would just grace us at I
host little retreats too at up in northern Wisconsin. But
he finally said yes and showed up last year with

(05:41):
his family, and he's coming back again, So, I mean
it's going to be amazing. It'll be Chris, his wife
Yvonne always comes this year, Chris Junior or next year,
I should say Chris Junior is coming. Who really doesn't.
He's never really gone out too much. I think he
was at Contact in the Desert last year and it
was the last event, and that was the first time

(06:02):
he's ever been out actually being at one of these
conferences since those experiences happened to him when he was
just a teenager. Emily Bledsoe will be present as well,
and hopefully Ryan and Jennifer. Ryan and Jennifer were there
last year. We'll see if they're going to come in
twenty twenty six too. Shall I go on?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, I'm seeing names on you because I understand Jimmy
Church is m seeing this year. And I know one
thing that I've heard you say in the past about
this event is that you want it to be, you know,
not your average convention where it's not just individuals getting
up there given speeches, but you also have a lot
of other things going on at this at this expo,

(06:44):
so kind of talk about some of that stuff and
what a person can expect.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Sure, So yes, I feel like, you know, you can
hear things all day long. You know, I've read all
the books, I've watched, all the podcasts I've you know, listened,
you know, taking tons of media. But it's not until
you actually experience something for yourself that it really sinks

(07:09):
in and and and starts making the difference, you know,
when it's like real. So I really wanted the emphasis
on this event to be experiential. I wanted to tap
into these like awesome, incredible minds, you know, and then
you know, they'll be up on the big stage of course,
doing what they do best, talking and you know, for

(07:30):
an hour an hour and a half. But then I'm
encouraging all of them to to do a workshop or
two or three, or a private SkyWatch or you know,
we just put our heads together and just try to
to think of like really cool things that'll just you know,
just wake them up, you know, light them up. And

(07:50):
you know a lot of it is, you know, what they're,
what they're what they do best. You know, doctor Diane Hennessy,
she's on the stage all the time now, you know,
ever since the telepathy tapes hit, well, her and I
are talking about a workshop, you know, and I don't
know what that's going to be yet, but she's going
to be doing something really hands on with the small group.

(08:10):
So the workshops are all small, they're all about forty
people or so where they really get to know these
wonderful teachers. And it's going to be incredible. I'm so
excited about this year. Last year was great. This year
we're going to do bigger and better.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
What would you say was one of the highlight moments
from last year's expo if you had to pick one,
you know.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Well, so everybody who was siding up was dying to
see Chris do a SkyWatch, right, so he wanted to
be out. Everyone wanted to be outside with Chris doing SkyWatch. Well,
we had SkyWatch scheduled for one night, which was really stupid.
I don't know why I thought. I'm like, hey, I'm
in the Midwest in May. It's like rainy season, right,
so it was. It was raining. It was just the

(09:00):
worst night. But we all went into this big, awesome
room at this resort. Now, this resort that it's at
is this sprawling, beautiful resort that's just in the kind
of in the country, but it's really big and it's
just really nature. It's like embodies Wisconsin. So they must
have had a church in this one room because it

(09:22):
just had these big arched, arched ceilings and everything and
these big beams. And we all gathered there and everybody was,
you know, kind of like, well this stinks, you know,
and we were doing our best to just get everybody
that was going to be outside for the SkyWatch for
this one event. And Kimberly Porth led this event along

(09:42):
with the Bloodsoes and we were chanting and we were
doing breath work and it was like echoing through the
ceilings and just reverberating and it was and then Chris
started talking and everyone was just listening. We're all just
kind of sitting on the floor hanging out. To me,
I'm getting shills just think about it. To me, that

(10:03):
was extremely impactful because I think it took a bunch
of people that were really feeling you know, we had
people coming from all over the country, not just Midwesterners,
really feeling down. It just turned him around because it
was just kind of like an unplugged event, kind of
off the cuff. So that was really cool. But I
mean for me personally, just being there face to face

(10:27):
with all of these amazing people, Like I couldn't even
believe it. I was just I was like welling up
all the time because I just couldn't believe they were here.
You know, everyone had the same mission. We all were
just like doing it and it was really just it
was great.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
And you know, I often talk with Drew Bayk's here
every weekend, so you know, we talk about this a lot,
and you know, we get into a lot of consciousness
stuff is we'll be doing with Debs here in a
couple of weeks because the energy of the world just
needs it right now, and any positivity is a plus.
And you know, I named the show Consciousness and UFOs

(11:04):
where the lines intersect because in a couple of reasons.
Why Because I kind of feel like the modalities EXPO
is that as well, we're Consciousness and UFOs intersect because
you definitely deal with both subjects and you have meditations
things like that that you guys do along with having
UFO researchers speaking on the platform. And then I also

(11:27):
feel like it's the perfect you know, description for what
this phenomena is, Consciousness and UFOs and we're only beginning
to kind of break the service of what that is
to you? What is consciousness if you were to describe it?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
So consciousness itself to me? And again I've learned about well,
you know, you just learned about it as you go
through life, right, a little bit here and there, but
back in It was either twenty nineteen or twenty eighteen
at Paula Harris's Star warks Can USA convention I used
to work for her. For her convention, Grant Cameron was

(12:05):
speaking about the contact modalities. He wrote a book called
Contact Modalities, and you know, and and then also Ray
Hernandez is the person who coined the term contact modalities
in his book Mind of God. And I guess what
it is is? You know, everyone's been studying these different
modalities for decades separately, UFO experiences, ghosts, the ability to

(12:30):
remote view and like different siah abilities and telepathy and
telekinesis and stuff like that, near death experiences, these psychedelic experiences,
these journey you know, plant medicine experiences, and they've been
they've been studied separately by experts forever and ever and ever,
and now what people are realizing and these pioneers, these people,

(12:54):
these pioneers are showing that, and science is catching up too,
is that all of those things are the same thing.
They're just wearing different hats. It's all under the umbrella
of consciousness. And to me, what consciousness is, I mean,
I don't know if you want to call it. You know,
it's whatever. It's that force or that that thing. I

(13:14):
don't know, that connects us all. It's God, maybe you
can call it or whatever it is. But to me,
it's fundamental. It's what started everything. And we are just
little little blips, you know. If there's an ocean, we're
just little waves. But we're all united because we're all
the same ocean. But we're just the little waves of

(13:37):
that same ocean. And so anyway, now they're starting to
study all these modalities because there's similarities in these modalities.
They all have the same they all have similar things. So,
for instance, any one of these modalities, whether it happens
to you by accident or whether you're doing it deliberately
like a breathwork practice, oftentimes you might be visited by

(13:58):
a non human intelligence, some sort of being, you know,
whether it's humanoid or whatever you determine it to be,
who knows, But it's something they all usually give you
some sort of message too. You receive a message from
this intelligence. Oftentimes it puts you on maybe a little
spiritual awakening and also changes your life and puts it

(14:20):
on a different trajectory. And a lot of people will
also report whatever modality it is, that there's some sort
of like time space alteration that happens during these very
deep experiences. So I guess now it's just you know,
studying them under one umbrella and seeing what comes out

(14:40):
of it. But to me, you know, I had my
spiritual awakening spontaneously in twenty sixteen, and it happened one way.
But now that I've you know, met with so many
hundreds of people and I've been involved in a lot
of different types of modalities, I see that contact is
not a one size fits all type thing. What resonates

(15:01):
with me probably well may not resonate with somebody else,
but there is going to be something that resonates with
them that has the same effect.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
That is awesome. Yeah, no, that's awesome. And you know,
obviously being on the presenting end, and then you also
have the patron is the people who come into view
your take part in this expo. What has some of
the feedback been from from some of the people who
have attended.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Oh my goodness. I mean, it couldn't have been. It
was so surreal for me. So I was like sleep deprived.
I was working that I was so nervous about the
whole thing those three days, and I was just like
running on adrenaline, you know. I was just like just
wanting to make sure everything was okay and everyone was fine,
and our presenters who traveled so far to get here,
and our attendees who traveled so far to get there,

(15:54):
and so as the days kept going by, people just
kept coming up to me and introducing themselves and giving
me hugs, and it was really weird. I didn't really
notice it at first. I was just kind of doing
it like oh whoa, well, yeah, whoa. And the feedback
was amazing, and it was exactly what I had intended.

(16:17):
People's minds were blown they were It was an incredible
growth experience for them, even the ones that have been
to the big conferences, you know, and some of the
other ones that have attended those things, were just blown away.
And what really hit home for me, rob was how
many of the presenters had interesting, amazing growth experiences. When

(16:46):
I heard that, I mean the attendees, I was just like, oh, oh,
thank God, thank God. But then when I started hearing
different presenters that had interesting things happened to them, or
maybe they had a paradigm shift, you know, whether it
was small or large, that's I knew that it was really, really,
you know effective. And you know what I attribute that
to is it was built out of pure love. Seriously,

(17:10):
it was built out of pure love. It was built
out of pure passion and you know, an intent to
serve and and that's what came out of it.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Thank And so that's kind of you're actually going right
kind of where I wanted you to go, because you know,
I was going to ask when you get a group
of people like this together, a lot of big names
in the field in one place, uh, you know, addressing
the phenomena. And the way I feel about it is
like I interview a bunch of people and you know,

(17:41):
I always try to take something away from their perspective
and see what's you know, what resonates maybe with the
next person that I speak to. When you look at
all these people collectively, uh, what is what seems to
be the common goal for everyone? And what what is
driving them to want to take part in something like this.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
I will tell you every single person. And you know,
I I was warned, you know that there's some big
you know names and maybe egos, and you know, you
just got to be able to roll with it. And
blah blah blah. To me, I everyone that we had
at this last event and the people that we have
coming up, everyone just seems to be on the same page. Like,

(18:25):
you know, there wasn't any well that person's story is bunk,
and this person whatever they're saying, you know, mine's better.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
It just seemed like everybody was just working together. They
were helping each other, helping me. They wanted it to
be a success, you know, and they and they just
seemed very selfless, you know. To me, it was it
was really just a it was great. It was great
because everyone seemed to know they want they had a
mission to put on a great show for these people

(18:55):
that came, and they really did. They really did put
it a wonderful group effort together.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah. And I always ask depinding, it doesn't even matter.
It could be UFO filed, it could be Cryptid's bigfoot.
I always ask a guest, like, what is your goal
in this? What is the end result? What do you
want to see come out of this in the end?
And so I guess I'll pose that to you, like
putting these things on. Obviously I know what the drive is,

(19:22):
but what is your end goal? What would you like
to accomplish by the time you put on your last expo?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Okay, So the mission was always It started small, with
these little retreats that I was putting on, and like
I said a little earlier, I've been so changed by
my experiences and the way I live my life and
everything and raise my kids and just the way I
deal with people. My mission became to help others do

(19:52):
that as well. But the primary goal, like the end goal,
is to make the world a better place, because, like
you said when we first started talking and tonight, things
are crazy, right, and I think they're just bubbling up,
bubbling up, bubbling up. And I think once people understand
our true reality and our true nature, you know, and

(20:14):
it starts small, but then you know, it's like peeling
an onion, layer after layer after layer. Once they start
to realize who we really are, that's when the change
can happen. So I'm very optimistic about our world, believe
it or not, a lot of people tell me I'm
crazy and maybe not ignorant naive, you know, but no,

(20:37):
I don't. I don't think so. I think any person
that can change and understand what we're doing here, and
you know, how to love one another really ultimately, one
person at a time, and it's just going to spread.
It's just going to spread, spread, spread, And.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I think you know that you're absolutely right with that
and the way I feel look at it as well
as and it's tough. I mean, you know, you get
on here. I'm a pro humanity person at the start,
you know, so I love all human beings, right, so
when you have this sort of energy, you know, being
directed towards uh us human beings, it does something to me.

(21:17):
It affects me in a way on a personal level.
And you know, but looking at the silver line, here's
what here's what I'm seeing, you know, the consciousness. And
I've talked to Drew Bank about this. Previously, consciousness has
taken a back seat to UFOs uh and I think
consciousness is actually the main subject of this. Everything else

(21:41):
falls up under this Now. I think this will I
think we may realize that going through a time like
we're going through, because I think consciousness is what we
need to understand and tap into and it I think,
you know, being in a situation like this where we've
we are experiencing the worst that you could ever experience,

(22:02):
that consciousness is going to be the thing that brings
us out of.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
This exactly exactly. And you know what, in addition to
what you just said, you know, you notice that when
people start to have experiences. Now, this wasn't the case
with me. And that's why I thought it was so
weird because I had to really work hard to having experiences.
I had to work out. I didn't just have stuff
happen to me. I had to work and work and

(22:25):
work and work and work with But a lot of
times people have these experiences following deep trauma, right, that's
when stuff starts to show up or sights in the sky,
or they're taken or you know, whatever whatever the experience is,
or they have deep trauma and they go sit in
the plant medicine ceremony in search, hoping for truth and healing.

(22:47):
You know, that's all consciousness. That's consciousness communicating to us
to help. So while we are all going through all
this crazy time. Like you said that, we deeply take
person what's happening out there. I think the activity via
consciousness is just gonna get amped up because we're gonna

(23:10):
need that and we have to awaken otherwise.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, and when you have you know, this side or
that side, right, then you have moments like this that
did allow you to connect with someone that you may
not have normally connected with. And it's you figure out
the end of the day that is actually it's consciousness
that allows that to happen. And I think it's gonna
end up being okay. That's why I have to have

(23:34):
Devshakti coming here in two weeks to kind of make
us feel better, because that's what it is. But we're
actually getting ready to go into our first break of
the night here with our guest Melissa Kane. It's gonna
be awesome conversation. Guys, make sure you don't go anywhere,
and we're gonna answer some questions. See what got Melissa
into even doing this? What does she experience first consciousness
of UFOs. You'll have to wait to find out after

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and welcome some more of the people in who came
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We think we left off with Roger Murray. So Roger
Murray dropping Dolge. Okay, yes, so the oh here UFO incident.

(24:42):
Roger Murray appreciate that. We're gonna definitely talk about that later.
I have to mark that down. Let me actually save that. Also,
we had Kitty Kenny Whack, Kitty Kendy wack. Who else
is in here? We have Fap Hey, f He appreciate
you coming on in tonight. We have Star Music Anya

(25:07):
appreciate you coming on into the show tonight.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
We have.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Curtim, Hey, Kurdim, Curtim, thanks for coming on in here.
Also Mike Jones, who, Mike Jones, Mike Jones, thanks for
coming on in here tonight. We appreciate you showing on
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Miss Katherine, we have to have you here, and I'm

(25:33):
glad you decided to show up here tonight. Who else
do we have? We have Cody Eiler, Hey, Cody Eyler,
thanks for coming on in with the cool face emoji
with the thumbs up. I like it. That's positivity. Let's
get that flowing in here tonight. Let's see who else
do we have? We have Stephen Drysdale. Appreciate you coming

(25:57):
on in here tonight as well. Let's see Curt I.
I'm saying you must be colding that part of California
because Rob g Froz. Yeah, I thought we were gonna
have an issue. I thought it was gonna be an issue,
but we came right back, so we're good to go.
Let's see Justin are saying love this channel, good evening everyone, Well,

(26:19):
we appreciate you justin our thanks. We just do what
we do, and we just tried to do what we do.
As long as we have conversations that move the needle
and positively affect what it is we're doing as human beings,
then we're doing our job here. Thanks for letting us
know We appreciate you. Let's see who else has shown on?
Who else is snuck in here? Yes, Delilah, Hey Delilah

(26:41):
with the wavy hand emoji saying hey everyone, thanks for
showing up. Andrew noams trucking. Appreciate you coming on in
here tonight, sir. It is an honor. Who else do
we got here? We got moving down the list now starts. Okay,
we got rolling deeps, Rolling deeps. That sounds like a

(27:02):
new name. Appreciate you coming on in. No such thing
as bad energy. I don't know. There's a ying and
the yang, and we will talk about that tonight too.
We go ahead and mark that one as well. Let's
see pair of marvelous, pair of marvelous. Appreciate you coming
on in here, sir and dropping all Melissa's links in

(27:22):
the chat like an awesome person just always does that.
Appreciate you, sir. Who else do we have? Magnetic is?
What where you being Buddy's surprise YouTube? Didn't see that?
It's flooding chat? Yeah, I guess well he's a mod.
That's why man eeticus. Appreciate you coming on in and
I should bestow my status on YouTube manneticuts. Let me

(27:46):
all make sure to do that, sir. I don't know
why you're not a mod in here yet tomorrow, man,
I appreciate you coming on in here. Thanks for showing up.
Let's see depth nos. Appreciate you coming on in. John
Wayne Todd spoke about UFOs being demons back in the
nineteen seventies. Different perspectives. I have an outlook on all that.

(28:07):
Maybe we'll talk about that too later. Let's see. Let
me actually mark that one. Okay, and see you got
about a couple minutes good, So let's see what else
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(28:30):
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who was a UFO experience or also founder of Contact
Medeli's XBOS. You should attend if you're in the vicinity,
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the archives because they are absolutely free. So Melissa, we
ended the last segment there and I was posing the
question saying, okay, let's see for consciousness in UFOs, what
did you experience first if you and mind kind of
going into any experiences you may have had which even

(31:06):
led you up to thinking about creating this Contact Medelli
us XPO.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Okay, sure, so when I so really well, I'll go back.
I'll go back because I think this is was something
speaking to me, it was consciousness, definitely. But when I
was a child, I between ages of seven years old
and about twelve something like that, I used to have
these experiences where it'd be like a nightmare. I'd wake

(31:35):
up in the middle of the night. But what I
would be seeing as I'm awake, I'm not seeing. My
eyes are open, but I'm not seeing anything in my room.
What I'm seeing in front of my face is like
the snow from an old TV, you know, in between channels.
It'd be like that, that staticky snow looking and I
would see that, and then I would see in the

(31:57):
middle of it a horizontal line that was like a
heartbeat line, you know, And when the feeling I would
have and then on the sides of my peripheral vision
there'd be these visions flying by me. And as that
line was nice and straight, I would feel safe, like
everything was okay. But then it would start to like

(32:18):
crankle up like that, and somehow it was tied to
my breath and I felt like I was going to die.
So I was up, you know, seeing this, trying to
walk around, screaming for my mom and dad. They'd come
and grab me and bring me to bed. And anyway,
long story short, this went on recurring like all the
time for many years and never knew what it was.

(32:38):
But it was absolutely terrifying. And I mean it was
one of those feelings where you're dissociated, like I'm out
of my body, like I wasn't. I didn't feel like
I was in my body. I didn't know where I
was whatever. So then it stopped, and then you know,
life went on. You know, everything went on just kind
of kind of normal. Grew up, you know, went to school,

(33:00):
did my thing. You know, in my twenties, I moved
to downtown Chicago, you know, lived downtown, had a job
in radio advertising. You know, I was having ball, having
a great time, met my husband, had kids, got married.
You know, everything's just kind of fine. All of a
sudden in twenty sixteen, we're watching We're living in the

(33:24):
suburbs now, got little kids around, and we're watching cable
television and he was flipping through the channels and one
of those documentaries come up, of the UFO documentmentary I've seen,
you know, on and off my whole life. Kind of
By the way, I've always had a vague interest in
UFOs because my grandparents used to have major sightings like
daytime in huge silvercraft you know, nighttime sightings, huge mother

(33:50):
crafts with lights. But they weren't into it. They would
just tell me, oh, yeah, well we saw this thing
and wow, it was pretty cool, pretty neat. So I
kind of knew about these things, and I was interested
in him. I thought it was kind of cool. So
in twenty sixteen, I asked my husband, I'm like, oh,
stop on that channel. I want to show jameson my son,
you know, a UFO video. Something clicked in me. I

(34:15):
don't know what it was. I don't know the specifics.
It's completely unremarkable, but I went back into our den
immediately and I started getting on social media and looking up.
I'm like, are people still seeing you?

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Foot?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
What is going on in the UFO world? And I
was hooked from that moment for until today. That's all
I live, breathe, movie, watch book, read television, don't do
anything else. My entertainment is that. And what's interesting is
the first things I saw, the first like articles or

(34:51):
maybe Facebook posts, whatever it was, was all about Stephen Greer.
It was all about doctor Stephen Greer and his movie Serious,
And I remember not really wanting to like invest an
hour and a half of my life at that moment
in the movie series. But it just kept coming at me.
So I'm like, okay. So I watched it like that
night or maybe the next day. I was absolutely blown away.

(35:16):
I could not believe, never heard of CE five, could
not believe that people were actually able to connect. I mean,
I was like, made my husband watch it the next day.
He was like, Wow, that's pretty cool. You know, he's
just kind of like, oh whatever, He's not like me
at all, kind of a skeptic, but he's come a

(35:38):
long way. So that's where my awakening went into. It
went into the area of CE five exclusively. So I
started reaching out to like everybody I could see that
did that on Facebook, started learning the protocols, start, you know,
got doctor Greer's app. Started meditating. I never meditated in

(35:59):
my life. I don't even know if I've heard of it.
I might have heard of it. I never meditated in
my life. Learned how to do that listening to the
crawd for I mean, I did this for eight months.
That's why I was telling you earlier that you know,
these people that just have the Mothership land in their
front yard are so luckier. I thought they were so
lucky because I had to work work, work, work, work,
work work. And then finally, after about eight or nine months,

(36:21):
I was in upstate New York on a camping trip
and I saw my first flash bulb and so that
was the first time I actually saw a UFO after
working at it really really hard.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Wow, And so you know, explaining what you mean a
flashbulb or is that what you mean? So like just
a okay, nothing.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
That stays, you know, not those but the kind that
just go power last.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Some people say they power up. I guess is when
they yeah, exactly, okay, a moment like that, right, So
you know, because I myself, I like to take drives
and I'm just one of those guys. So there's a
couple of places that I like to go to just think.
And it's a lookout point over the city I live
in Bakersfield here and you can see wide open skies

(37:11):
here in California. So me, you know, I've been into
the subject for a while and I would go out
there all the time and I'm just like, let me
see something. I should be able to see something. And
I'm there day after day after day nothing. So explain
how important it is to, you know, for the meditation
piece of this, like to make that actual connection. Because

(37:32):
I know there's a lot of people out there that
really really want to see something, and you know, they
look up and they just don't see anything. What would
you recommend that they do?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yes, I think the meditation thing is key. Again, not
for everybody. You're gonna have people out there that say
I never meditated day in my life, and I go
out there and they come out you know all the
time you hear that. But for me, I am a
perfect example of somebody that's never saw ghost, never nothing
my whole life. Just that weird those dreams, those fast

(38:03):
dreams when I was little. But I had to work
at it. I mean work at it. And the meditation. Seriously,
I've been meditating like constantly since twenty sixteen. It wasn't
until like two years ago or a year and a
half ago that I could actually say, hey, I do
meditate now. I slowed down that you know, incessant chatter

(38:24):
that's constantly just you know, you have to quiet your brain,
you have to quiet yourself. And for me, the way
to do that is I had to follow instructions. I
was not capable of doing it myself. So the greer
app helped because he gave you steps, he gave you meditations,

(38:45):
he told you what your intentions should you should try
to make it be. He told you everything. He had
these crop circle tones. So I was really good at
following rules. So that's what I did, and eventually it happened.
And you know, but what's really weird, And I thought
about this just recently. So I was living in the

(39:06):
suburbs of Chicago, and I was surrounded by Midway Airport
on one side of me and Ohair Airport on the
other side of me. For the most part, right, never
saw anything in the sky for those eight or nine months.
But it wasn't until I went to upstate New York
where the skies were like beautiful. But you know what
was going on that whole time that I never even

(39:27):
put I never connected the dots until years and years later,
Like you know, six years later, there was all kinds
of contact happening inside my house, but I wasn't paying
attention to it because I was super fixated on having
that UFO shiny light in the sky thing. That's what
I wanted, So I look back now, during all this

(39:50):
meditation I was doing, I'd have all kinds of flashing
lights on and off in my house all the time.
I lived in an old house. I thought immediately, pooh
pooh that you know, that's just electrical problems. You know,
we got an old house. Probably need to get some
new electrical I would have compasses that not work some days,
and some days they would work in my house. So

(40:10):
doctor Greer's app I think has a compass on it,
and I had some other compasses. There'd be certain days
where the compass would say, you know, I'm facing south,
but I know I'm facing north. Then the next day
it would fix itself. But then other times weeks would
go by, then the compass would not be working again. Again. Well,
I thought it had to be a broken compass. I

(40:30):
didn't realize then. Also, one time I had an appliance
like blow up, and the appliance fix it guy who came,
he said, I've never seen an appliance like so fried
like this, except when a house was struck by lightning.

(40:52):
Our house was never struck by lightning. It was never
nothing like that. But there were these like electrical phenomena
happening all the time. And then the one thing that
I do remember going, okay, wait a minute, this is
something right now. I was reading something about how sometimes
people are able to walk outside down the street and

(41:12):
they look up at the street lights and the street
lights start turning off, you know, as they walk. So
I just had read that in a paragraph in a book,
and then like maybe ten minutes later, I walked over
to this window where we have this very annoying street
light that like shines right in the window. Boom, it
went off. But every time any of these things happened,

(41:38):
I'd my ego mind would immediately, oh, that's not it,
that's not contact. You're not But I wasn't paying attention.
Now years later, I pay attention to everything, the most
subtle things, and sometimes those are the most beautiful and
the most amazing. So I guess that was a super

(41:59):
long story to say that everybody can do it. Follow,
you know, if you need help, follow instructions that these
great teachers, not just career there's a million of them,
you know, great teachers give you to do it, but
be open to other things. Don't be very rigid minded,
because you might find out that you're having contact on

(42:19):
a whole other level. But it just doesn't look like
you're expecting it to.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
That's perfect. I'm glad you explained it that way, you know,
and looking at it because my the way it happened
for me is I was into this UFO subject that
I was hosting this other show, and hat still hadn't
had an experience to talk to this guy who claimed
to be this reptilian channeler is what he said he was.
And he said and he you know, he's telling his

(42:46):
story and he's looking at me, and he could tell
that maybe I'm not buying everything that he's saying, right,
And so he he asked me, I guess it gets
to him to where he stops in the middle of
a sentence, and then he asked me, would you be
open to meeting one of these beings? And I was like, yeah,
sure of course I would, Yeah, definitely. And so, you know,

(43:09):
he didn't say anything about it after that, but I'd
say within seven days from then, I had a sighting
where in my backyard I had forty seven objects in
the sky at one time. Now, the thing for me
is is that that UFO sighting happened. First, then I
had weird things in the house happened afterwards, And so
when that realization hit me, I started thinking back, I'm like, Okay,

(43:34):
did I have anything previously that I could point to
now and say, Wow, that might have been something, But
there wasn't anything for me. So for you to have,
you know, the sighting and then be able to go
back and look back and reflect on like incidents that
you can now potentially connect to the phenomena, what did

(43:55):
that do for you in that moment? Like, how did
that change the way you think about the phenomen it?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Really? I just you know, I'm like, dang it, I
wish I would have paid more attention. I wish I
would have given more credit to those things instead of
just fighting it. But you know what, that's what we
do as little humans. We do that. We fight it.
Here's another example that happened maybe three years ago. So
all these so now my BFFs are Debs right and

(44:24):
Kimberly Port and all these amazing contact workers that I've known,
and now we do contact work together. We do CEE
five retreats, we do all kinds of cool stuff. Right,
So those people that are very sensitive and very gifted,
you know, they see things all the time. They see
like beings, shadow beings, eight foot tall bird people, you know,

(44:47):
vortaxes or vortices, whatever the word is. They see things,
you know, all the time. So we'd be out at
this retreat that I would host once a year out
in the north woods of Wisconsin, beautiful, beautiful area, and
you know, they're all talking, all these senior contact workers
or veteran contact workers, they're always talking about that stuff.
And I made it my intention for this particular retreat, like,

(45:11):
you know what, I want some of that. You know,
I'm now at this point, I'm seeing all kinds of
lights in the sky all the time, just walking outside
my door. They show up all the time. So that's
very commonplace for me at this point. So I told
Jeff Sell, who's a veteran contact worker, I said, you know, Jeff,
I want to see what you guys see. You know,

(45:32):
I want to see like some ground lights or some
tree lights or just something or vortex. I don't know. Literally,
there's a group of thirty of us. We're in the
woods at our field site and all of it, and so
it's darkish. These little pinpoint lights about two feet off

(45:53):
the ground are showing up for everybody. I'm not the
only one the whole groups them. What do I immediately say, Oh,
it must be some sort of glow worm. Immediately I
put that out there. Okay, Now, in the back of
my head, I'm like, what if it's not a glow worm.
I don't even know what a glow worm is. But

(46:15):
you know what I did see one time when I
was in southern Indiana. I know that fireflies will have
their larva and they're in like the ground, but this
looked totally different. This was like a white light, like
whitish blue pinpoint and then when you walked up to it,
it would go out, and then when you stepped back,
it would turn back on. And they were in like bundles,

(46:35):
and some of these, Like Maddie, another veteran contact worker,
She's like, oh, I see some of your little pinpoint lots.
There's a whole bunch in that tire, and you know,
and we're walking around. But I put it out there
immediately to the group that oh, those were glow you know,
some kind of glow worm. I went back home after
the retreat was over, and I researched for hours to

(46:57):
see if I could find anything in orthern in Wisconsin
that was could do that, and there's nothing. There's like
some kind of cave in Australia that you can go
in underwater. You have to like swim a mile and
then you see these blue lights under there. There's nothing.
So that again another long story. I was your ego
immediately just knee jerks into telling you it's nothing, it's normal.

(47:23):
It's but I've come a long way and that now
I don't default to that now. My default is booh,
what could it be? And then I'll see if it's something,
you know, normal. But yeah, it's just about being open.
It's about being really open and sometimes it's really hard.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yeah, you talk about that that rational mind is what
it's stinking it something. But that's okay because you kind
of should go through that thought process anyway before just
jumping to its something anomalous or extraordinary. So that's actually
and it's the thing because this is another thing, Like
I always feel like the senses that we have as

(48:01):
human beings are used. They're supposed to be used to
answer questions like that, right, the senses that we have,
which I also call superpowers as well, But you know,
what do you think the So let me ask you this,
especially with the CE five, so you're making this consciousness connection.
You figured out how to get all that chatter, get

(48:22):
your mind to completely be silent and get into that
meditative state. So you contact Craft in this instance. Have
you ever had any information come along with any of
those experiences or has it just been craft?

Speaker 3 (48:37):
I have not. So I've had messages come to me
in different ways, you know, like a download of information
you know, in other settings, but not from the Craft.
Now other people around me have, you know, and you know,
and obviously I these people that channel the Reptilians or

(49:02):
that channel like dev Shakti, the Star Teachers or Betshar
or any of the people that channel all that message,
I really gabble it up because I feel like that's
unfiltered information, you know that. I think it's super credible.
But no, So to answer your question, no, I've not
had a message like that, like some profound, awesome message.
But maybe that'll be my next goal.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
See that's the thing. And I'm there with you. And
that's why I ask you, because there's so many people
that talk to that they've had these downloads or they've
had these direct conversations with extraterrestrials, and I just haven't
had that right, so I can only ask questions about that.
But I and part of me fears that that's the
next step. But I don't know if fears is the

(49:45):
right word. But I've had so many different things happen
that relate to the phenomena that extraters some sort of
contact thing. It's definitely seems to be the next thing
that is probably gonna happen. What do you think about
that that, you know, are you afraid of that? Or
how do you how would you look at, you know,
waking up in the middle of the night to go

(50:06):
use a bathroom and you have this contact event in
your hallway.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Okay, so I was just going to tell that story.
I automatically tell them no three am, no no no, no, no, no no.
And I still I'm still like that, you know, as
much as I I know that the ones that are
around me are benevolent, loving, they're probably part of my
spirit guide team, you know, they're all like rooting for me, like,

(50:32):
oh girl them, I still don't want them showing up
in the flesh in my bedroom at three in the morning.
You know, I still have a lot of that childlike
and I blame those weird nightmares I had as a child.
You know, I still have that at night, but during
the day, if I'm walking down the street walking my dog,
I would love I would love to have a daytime

(50:54):
sighting like that. And I even even haven't had a
daytime craft sighting either. All of my craft sightings have
been at night or dusk. Never like a good old
fashioned nuts and bolts, you know, cigar tic tac or see.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
I gotta share. I gotta share with you. Maybe it
could be tight or some other time. But that sighting
I'm telling you about the forty seven objects. It was
at twelve in the afternoon, clear blue sky, not a
single cloud in the sky, so and they flew directly
overhead and I got him on film, so I have, yes.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
I definitely have to see that. That is amazing. Now,
that would be like the mac Daddy of sightings.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
But it was one of those moments where you know initially,
and I'll just briefly tell the story real quick. I
was in the house, I was in the studio at
my home and my girl was outside. She was on
the phone, I guess, and she came running in there,
and she was like, you should come outside. Something weird.

(52:01):
And I'm like, well, like what, like, tell me what,
and she just wouldn't say. She was like, you should
just come outside. So I came outside and I look
up in the sky and I see this ball of
what I think initially are birds, because they're in a
ball and they're kind of just doing this, You're like
like mosquitos, like a ball of mosquitoes. And I'm sitting

(52:24):
there and I'm like, oh, those are birds, and she's
like no. She was like, I've been watching them and
you could see they have this metallic shine on them.
And I stood there for a little longer and I'm like,
oh my god. Okay, So I run in the house
and I go get my camera and I come back
out thirty second time. As a lapsed. It was they
were probably at the ten o'clock position in the sky.

(52:46):
Initially by the time I came out, they were in
a formation almost like a v, almost like birds, and
they were flying directly overhead. They were maybe five hundred
two one thousand feet in the air. So I'm filming
them and then I'm also looking at them directly. They
are these spheres with these black objects sticking out the
bottom of each and every one of them, and I'm

(53:08):
sitting there and I'm like, what in the world is that?
And so I'm sitting there and it's going over to
maybe about the twelve one o'clock position, and they all
disappear and the thin air just gone, and I sit
there with my girl in the moment, I'm like, do
you realize what we just saw? Like, do you realize
that what that just was? And it was just that

(53:29):
moment of realization that these things are here every day
in our skies and they're just ready for you to
see at anytime. So it always blows my mind hearing
some of the people that say that they haven't seen anything,
because it's like they're right up there. All you got
to do is look up. But we'll finish that thought
because we're actually at the end of the hour right
now with our guests Melissa Kaing, Guys right here, it's

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phobo slash at space out Radio. So getting back into
the conversation, Melissa, what would you? How would you? So
let's do it. Okay, You've had your own experience. You
also had the Contact Modalities Expo with all these awesome speakers,

(01:00:43):
or you know, really coming from a place of research
and experience, what have you gathered? If you had to
sum it all up, what do you think the phenomenon is?
Or what do you think the purpose of them visiting
and con What do you think this is all about?
Your idea?

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Okay, well, I just think based on the information I've
received from you know, you know, we all receive information
in a lot of different ways. But I feel like
the phenomena is our true reality. It's it's our truth,
and I think as we I feel like our species

(01:01:23):
is very primitive, no offense to us, but I feel
like we're just evolving and we are where we are.
But I think we're at this pinnacle, now, this point
where we are all starting to realize who we really are,
and that's what's going to make all the difference. So
I think the contact is going to increase for everybody

(01:01:44):
on the planet. I think it's been increasing, you know,
quite a bit over the last you know, several decades.
And I think I think these beings or you know,
whatever they are, I think they're trying to help us along.
I think they really are, because there's a lot of
there's a lot of you know, sadness, and people are
afraid out here on this planet with what's going on.

(01:02:06):
But I think as we work our way through it,
I think they're here to help us. But because of
free will, they can't really intervene so much unless nuclear
threat or something like that where we actually threaten space
time itself.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Yeah. Yeah, And you know, I'm feeling in the same
way as well. I mean sad to say, but it
just feels like we're we're heading towards some sort of
climactic situation and it's just unsure of what that thing is,
you know, being a person that has you know, recently
come into this in the city, recently, within lasting years.

(01:02:48):
So I consider that recent. But you know, I know
for me when I first got into this, it was
really for me. Back in twenty seventeen, they heard a
story where they said they were trieved off world vehicles
and I read that headline and then I read it
again and I was like that that means something not

(01:03:09):
from Earth, and so I immediately I started jumping down
a rabbit hole. You know, a lot of people give
people who are new a bad They have a bad
outlook on us newbies because they feel like, we don't
know anything about the ufology. This all you don't study
the history. Well, actually, I beg the difference because that's
immediately what I did was jumped into the history of ufology.

(01:03:32):
And there are some really awesome moments in the history
that stand out for me. What were and you said
you two as well, So what were some of those
What was one of the incidents that stands out for
you where you were just blown away when you came
across that Well, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I started, like you it all. I think for most people,
it starts in that nuts and bolts area. You know,
you just start looking up the old cases, you know,
you start learning about the new cases and everything. I
feel like you know, all the regular crash cases or
crash retrieval stuff. I mean, that was all very interesting,
but it's it was that like subterranean et thing that

(01:04:15):
like underground you know, civilizations and races and the reptilian thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Really.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
You know, my husband still will not acknowledge that at all,
but I you know, I know, I know they are here,
their primary they were here before we were here. So
that kind of stuff, that that sub underwater in the earth,
that kind of stuff really blew my mind when I
started reading about it initially. But you know, as the

(01:04:42):
nuts and bolts thing, as you as you continue to
you know, research these things, then you start you start
going into that direction of what the ets are saying
to you, the ets that we've had in our possession,
or or the people the experiencers actually communicate with. That's
I think the messages is what took me along and

(01:05:03):
then started that spiritual journey, which is what I ultimately
wound up having.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
So when you talk about crass retrieval, was obviously the
most famous when everyone knows is Roswell thanks to Stanton Freeman,
by the way, because obviously if he didn't do the
work that he did, we probably would never know about that.
But the one for me that really ticks all the
boxes has been like the aerial school. It's just it's

(01:05:28):
the children. Contact moments are just so powerful for me
because I always pose the question why contact children? Like
what was the purpose of you know, going to a
school to talk to kids about this? When you think
about that case, like what do you take away from that?
What's wow about that? Or what would you if you

(01:05:50):
had to throw an idea out there on why they
would contact children over the adults. There's probably a good
answer to that, But what would be your answer?

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Well to me again, Yes, so I was saying earlier,
how like the channeling information is so unfiltered and really credible.
Also quantum hypnosis information that comes out of that really credible.
I forgot about the children. Yes, anytime a child delivers
that kind of message, why would they They're not making
it up. They're scared out of their wits, you know,

(01:06:22):
And I feel that the ets, I mean, they should
probably go and they probably do visit many children that
we just don't even hear about. But they have to
go where the future is because you have to start in,
you know, planting those seeds young so that they grow
up and understand deeply the message and about you know,

(01:06:43):
caring for one another, caring for our planet, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
And I want to go a little deep here. This
is for me still an ongoing sort of idea because
of the moment that we're in. But you know, you
try to think why we are in the in this
current moment, like how could this? How could we be
allowing what's happening to happen. Why aren't more people attempting

(01:07:09):
to try to shift what's going on? And why are we,
you know, purposely being taken through this moment. And I'd
done a show and I brought this up a few
shows ago. But I had done a show about a
year and a half ago, Spring twenty twenty four, where
the cut I posed a question on what would world

(01:07:31):
powers do in the moment of like an imminent contact
event where they either it happened already or it's about
to happen, it's imminent. And I asked a question, would
world powers be willing to blur the line of democracy
in order to impose like martial law on the citizens

(01:07:52):
to for the control narrative right? Because you would think
a lot of people think that once contact happens things
they're gonna go crazy. You're going to lose control of
the people, The powers that be all of a sudden
lose their status and control over the situation. So if
they knew of something, and we could take this back

(01:08:13):
to the potential meeting with Eisenhower back in the fifties,
that maybe they know something's coming up and then so
they're preparing to uh set up a climate where they
can control the people, you know, prior to this event
or something coming to fruition. And you say that on

(01:08:33):
the on the cusp of a three I at list,
which is still we don't know exactly what it is,
and it just gets weirder by the day, Like, is
there could you see a place where the powers that be,
not wanting to lose their power, would be willing to
blur the lines of democracy in order to control to

(01:08:55):
keep that power. Do you see a world where that's possible?

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
I see, well, first of all that, so I don't
even go there. Okay, I I feel like, yes, anything's possible.
They are completely insane. They're they're completely insane, so I
think they will try everything. However, I am of the
mindset that, and I follow this from Bishar and others

(01:09:22):
that have said this. You know, there are two different
timelines happening.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Okay, we're on one timeline and now there's timeline going
this way, and then there's a timeline going this way.
And I feel that if you stay in your positive
frequency again, I'm getting woo woo here on you now.
You know, if you maintain that high vibe, so to speak,

(01:09:46):
and that positive frequency, I believe you do your own reality.
And I've been going through like a like a reawakening
these past several months, you know, and it just feels
very true for me that I feel like we all
create it. So what you're experiencing right now, we're creating it.

(01:10:06):
Doesn't mean you're necessarily going to be affected by it.
You're observing it, and it's and it's teaching you lessons
and it's changing you anyway. It's very deep. So I'm
going to stop now, but I feel that anything's possible
in this world. I do think that the dark forces

(01:10:28):
will pull out all the stops, but I think it
is up to us. And I think that's why we're
all accelerating at a super rapid pace. And according to
what everybody says, all the all the you know, the
et messages. We're already there. It's just a matter of
getting through these bumpy roads now. But we are on
the road to where we're supposed to be, to that

(01:10:49):
fourth dimension or wherever we're going, the good route, the
good route.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
In okay, and so good right, good, all right, here's
the thing with good and and and someone has mentioned
this earlier, but you know, there's a yin and a yang,
you know. And I'm one who believes that when we
think about the universe as a whole, from this from
one end to the other, that there are a lot
of consistencies there that we experience here on Earth. So

(01:11:18):
night day, firewater.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Of oviduality, right right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
So with that being said, I would have to think
that there would be some element of malevolence out there,
right And so if that's the case, when you look
at three I at Liss, if this were to be
something alien out of you know, from alien technology derived
from what do you think what do you think that

(01:11:47):
type of impact would have on individuals here on Earth, Like,
what do you think that would look like if it
turned out to be something technological with their sights on
this planet.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
And we and we and our powers that be admitted
it or or.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Well, I think they would. They wouldn't have a choice
in that moment, right right, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
I think it would be a rough road. Back in
the day, I used to not think so. I used
to think, we're ready, We're ready, We're ready for this.
We we we can handle it. I just think that
there's going to be a lot of people that won't
be able to, at least in this incarnation. But I

(01:12:30):
feel truthfully that we have to for ourselves.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
It's like it's like the airplane, you know, and the
airplane's going down. You know, you want to get that
oxygen and put it on yourself first before you put
it on your family, right, because you have to be
okay before you can take other people.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
So I am a firm believer that if we do
our own inner work, and I mean in shadow work,
ugly work, you know, to to learn our lesson, to
you know, release those blocks, and to thrive as a positive, loving,
compassionate being who understands in their heart the unity that

(01:13:11):
we all are. You can't possibly not love somebody else.
You can't possibly not love somebody because they're from another country,
from another planet, because they look different. You know you
love them because you know they are you. So if
we stay down that road, and if this message reaches
as many people, I mean, it's it's going to start
to ripple, it's going to grow exponentially. We're gonna knit

(01:13:35):
that all in the butt. But if this three I
at list thing, I don't know. I don't know what's
going to happen. I feel it's on more of a
vibrational level than something that's going to be out there
that's going to be really super obvious and big and bold.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
I don't really know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Yeah, so you know, because the thing is is that
if and this is why Ivy Low is all over
the news right now, because it's like it's not a
it's not really ah you know, saying that it is
something alien technology, but it's just saying that there's always
the possibility, Like we know that things are here currently,

(01:14:16):
so it wouldn't be too far off to say to
something coming from interstellar space could likely be related to
something that we currently are seeing here going on right now.
And so with that being said, if it were to
be this close to us, and we're sitting here just
you know, all just thinking everything is love and light,
and I just feel like a lot of people, I
want it to be love and light, because that's just

(01:14:38):
how I am as a person. But you know, you
have to look at the other side of it, because
if this thing were to pull up to Earth and
it was not love and light, then we'd be in
big trouble because no one has prepared for the event
that that these beings are coming in and not being
you know, that are not benevolent. So uh, it's just

(01:14:59):
something that I think everyone should think about. But at
the end of the day, you know, I would hope
that they're here to be friends with us and to
enlighten us. I definitely think we are going through an
enlightening period right now. And you have to ask yourself
for what though, you know, for it, is it so
we could be friends and go out to the galactic

(01:15:21):
you know, federation or whatever a lot of people say,
or is it or is it just so that we
can unite and just prepare for whatever is coming, whether
it's malevolent or benevolent, just uniting as a planet it
is a species, just to confront whatever, you know, whether
it's whether it falls on either side.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Right, No, I agree, I don't know. You know, I
hear that too about the love and light thing. You
can't be all love and light and just keep these
blinders on. But if you go go deep, like philosophically
and understand that you are creating your own reality. So
like right now, I'm looking at you and interacting with you,
but it's all my creation. And if I understand that

(01:16:04):
I am deeply protected and and and loved, then I
know everything's going to be okay in my world. And
because I'm good inside, what I'm projecting out there is
good outside. So it's it's a crazy thought. It's a
crazy thought, but I'm going with it. You want to

(01:16:25):
know why? You want to know why I'm going with that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Why is that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Because we're here, we're we're here to play, we're here
to have fun, we're here to thrive, We're here here
to have compassion and love for one another. And that's
what I'm going for. And if I die tomorrow, I
want to die a person who's having a good time,

(01:16:48):
trying to help others, trying to serve and trying to love.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
And that's it, you know, you know, when I and
I think, just me coming from that, looking at both sides,
sometimes I feel bad, you know, coming with the perspective,
because I know a lot of people out there just
don't want to even entertain them malenless silently. I know,
you know, I'm happy in doing what I'm doing is

(01:17:14):
a human and I'm happy in my spouse that I'm in,
and I just rather not, I just rather not deal
with that. But the thing is is that you know,
and I've said this to Drew, we go back and
forth on this all the time. It's just that if
we are in an event where the presence that when
we have this contact moment ends up being malevolent, then

(01:17:35):
all of a sudden, you have so many people that
didn't prepare for this, so now that the people who
did prepare for this now have to take on the
people that didn't prepare for it. And it's like, Okay, maybe,
you know, if we're all coming into this with open mind,
maybe everyone could have been at least prepared or at least,
you know, had gone through some thought process on what

(01:17:56):
they would do if something came that was malevolent. Because
you're talking about family and protecting family, and that's good.
That's going to be a number one thing. So it's
just you know, I think it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
But you know what, we have to worry about that regardless.
We have to worry about that on our own soil.
We have to worry about crazy people harming ourselves and
our family. We have to worry about countries, We have
to worry about humans, you know. But the messages that
come from the ETS, including Bashar, including you know, I'm
using him a lot because I follow his his stuff

(01:18:29):
a lot, even from Greer, even from from anybody else,
Lisa Royal, you name it. The ets that are able
to now, they they're not saying that there aren't bad
ones out there or at least indifferent that would just
love to just you know, use us for all of
our resources, you know, anything that they need, they'd love

(01:18:51):
to get. But we are protected. We are protected. And
you want to know what else I'm going to show
you something like that?

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Yeah, yeah, do you see this?

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
This is my pendulum and bring up here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Oops, so we bring that up on stage.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Okay, Okay, one of my pendulums. I have several, I
have many, Okay, I started using this. I bought this
in twenty nineteen, at Paula Harris's Star Wars convention in Nevada,
and I bought it because I thought it was cool
looking and I realized I could use it as a pendulum.
So I've been working with my pendulum for years, and

(01:19:29):
probably the last two years, I've really really developed a
relationship with it. I mean, I trust it implicitly. We
have people that are appearing at the expo presenting like
Megan some solar glow meditations. Who uses dowsing rods. She
uses them in the same way you use pendulums. When

(01:19:50):
you have a connection with something like this, it taps
into your higher self, ascended masters, other beings. Who knows
who comes through? You know, you can find out who
comes through. But I've been able to use this for
so often, for so many years that I know it's
given me the right answers because I have history now,

(01:20:11):
I can look back at things that it said and
I was like, nah, but it wound up being true. Anything.
Any of these these types of questions that you're asking
and talking about right now, the ones that concern me
and that keep me up at night, and they do,
I'll go straight to my source, because this is my intuition.
It taps into my intuition. It's the way I can

(01:20:32):
get answers. Other people, you know, like might be able
to you know, hear it in their head, or you know,
they might have different ways of doing that. This is
mine and I am told time and time again if
I'm having some sort of scared moment or fear based
time or whatever it is, whether it's about world events,
whether it's about something going on you know, personal in

(01:20:54):
my life, I go to this and it always, always
always reminds me when asked that I am infinitely protected
and that I am safe, infinitely protected, and that I
am safe. So because I have such a belief in this,
and whoever it's talking to, I know that, and I've

(01:21:15):
just adopted that because it keeps me going. It keeps
me going, and that's what it's all about, keeping going
so that you're strong enough to put that oxygen mask
on other people that need it. And whether the comet
or whether a three I at liss has et tech
on it or not, whether it's malevolent stuff happening or positive.

(01:21:39):
Even if positive benevolent beings come down, half the world
is going to completely freak out and they're going to
need us anyway, because their paradigm is going to completely shift.
Everything is going to be crumbling down on what they
believe in, their organized religion and everything else too. So
we're going to be there for them. And as long
as we continue to do our work with the oxygen
mask and keep doing our inner work, and you know,

(01:22:01):
understanding that there are dangers and stuff out there, but
you keep your eye on the ball, you keep your
eye on the positive, you keep your eye on love
and source or whatever you want to call it, God
will be there to help everyone else as there, you know,
as they think that their ship is sinking, you know,
And I do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
That as a I do that as a mental exercise
because when I have someone that it looks at the
phenomena from more of a positive, benevolent perspective, I like
to challenge that because I would I like to hear
what the answer to that is and does that sound
you know, like something that that is reasonable? And it does,

(01:22:42):
and it you know that just believing in and being
stronger than being the strong person to help the weaker
person is sort of what I'm taking away from that.
And that makes sense because I think that in a
moment that that we have catastrophic disclosure if it just
happens tomorrow that there are We're gonna definitely have to

(01:23:03):
help some people across the line just even wrap their
mind around what is actually even happening. Just for starters,
so I get it exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Do you remember that movie? Did you see the movie?
Keep looking up?

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 6 (01:23:16):
Or yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Yeah, yeah, oh look up?

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
You remember that end where what's his face? Qt was
praying as the world was ending, and Jennifer Lawrence, who
are the other ones? I don't know, but he he
was the only one who was just sitting there in
prayer as the asteroid or whatever it was was hitting,
you know, And you know that's that's the way it is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
You know, you can kind of out of your control,
just like being at peace with with what's going on. Yeah,
I get that. We're going into our final break here
of the night guys with Melissa Kane right here spaced
out radio after hours radio show with me your host,
mister robb G. Right after the break, we're gonna get
into your questions. I know I have a couple here
to make sure we get more of those in your

(01:23:59):
put with all caps we'll ask them right after this
break space out radio. After I was radio showed me
your hostess, Rob G. We'll see you right back here
after the break. All right, we are crystal crystal clear,

(01:24:24):
and uh yeah, guys, definitely put in uh your questions here.
Let me see. I know, I got a couple here
and uh we riders d G. They we'll talk about

(01:24:45):
that again in our three with Drew Banky. I know,
Drew bank you wanted to talk about three Atlas. You say,
Three Eyed Atlas has gotten weird even more. Yeah, yeah,
And supposedly there's like a companion object with it, which
is trouble. Hear that that that just can't and the
companion object also is not does not have a tail

(01:25:06):
on it, and they're unsure on what's going on here.
And that's why I asked, because if this, if below
was even you know, he's giving it forty percent, I
think still right now. But God, if something were to
pull up, you know, right here, right now in the
next few months, it's like, either this is gonna be
the best time we ever had or it's gonna be

(01:25:29):
the worst time we have it. It's gonna be one
of the two. And it's like, you know, I think
they said March is when it goes closest to Jupiter.
I think goes closest to Earth I think at the
end of December or something like that. But it kind
of deviated from its course too, which was another thing
they were looking forward to see if it would deviate
from its course when it went around the Sun, and

(01:25:51):
it did. It's sort of deviated and it's on a
sort of different trajectory. They said, not really much. It
isn't too much off from its original but it's still
has deviated and now it has this companion object, which
is crazy. And it's like, hopefully it's not what people
are saying it is, but then hopefully it is. Because

(01:26:12):
I kind of do want to just kick the door
open on this and just get it over with. It's like,
because how can we now get to that next stage,
the post disclosure, if we don't have that moment we
need that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
We got to go through the moment. You're right, we
gotta go through the moment. It's got to come here,
whatever it is, whatever it is, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
And I'm looking forward to it right because I want to.
I just think it's a moment where humanity gets a
chance to restructure sort of what we have built thus far.
Because we're all born into this society, we think it's
just supposed to be this way, and it's not. Actually,
it's not. Actually, yeah, you know what I mean, that's

(01:26:56):
not our nature.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
People will say, well, it's human nature to be warring.
It's no, it's always been that way because we've lived
this and you look back a thousand years and they
were living it then. But if you look at the
timeline that we've even been a species, it's literally a
blip on the radar. So when we in a thousand years,

(01:27:17):
when we look back at that time and we'll be like, oh,
that was just a little short time. Seems like an
eternity for us because we're living it every day. But yeah,
I'm with you. I'm looking forward to it, you know.
I'm just there's nothing we're going to be able to
do about it anyway if it is bad, guys, So

(01:27:40):
we're just going to have to help one another.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
And or you can get to your cave first, you know,
before everyone else gets to it, because and I always
recommend that anyway, because just asteroids just there's so many
different reasons why you should have a plan, whether it's
something terrestrial here on the Earth world, you know, nuclear
war for fair because best believe the powers that be

(01:28:05):
have bunkers that they are going into.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
They all got them. Yeah, they're still digging them all over. Yeah, exactly, and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
They're when the event or when the what is it,
the s h t F s h TF. Yes, when
the s h t F, they're going to lock those
doors and they're not going to let you in, Okay,
So they have a plan, and it's just it'd be

(01:28:31):
smart for you to have a plan because who wants
to be stuck out here on the surface of you know,
with all nuclear fallout or whatever we might be facing.
So it is sad, it's sad to think about, and
it's tough to think about. But I think, you know,
tough conversations are the ones that move the needle, just
just having the conversation, just knowing that you have an idea.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Yeah, at least for sure, I don't have any bunkers though,
I have no bunker.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Yeah, I'm just looking. I told somebody, I was like,
just I was like, there's so many extensive cave systems
here on Earth, which people think there are aliens that
live down there? Why not you know at least know
where one is in your vicinity, just if you had to,
for whatever reason, go into one. You may not ever,
but you know what if you have, but it's good

(01:29:22):
to know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
It's good to prep. I got I got prep food
under in my basement right now. I got two batches
of prep food from whatever company is. So I yeah,
I think about this stuff, you know, but I think
about it in a way like, Okay, well, does it
hurt me to buy this prep food thing? No, I'm
gonna buy it, Not gonna dwell on it, but gonna
have it, go feed my kids for at least a

(01:29:45):
little while if the shit hits the fan.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
There was a point in time where I did not
I used to look at watch Dousday Preppers ten fifteen
years ago, and I was just like, that will never happen,
Like what are you guys doing? Okay, financial collass, Okay,
it's not gonna happen, none of these. But I was
disillusion until I saw something like the pandemic and we
go through that and the two days the world is crumbled,

(01:30:08):
but here we go. We're coming back right now, all right, everybody,
welcome back space Out Radio to a half hours radio show.
We're on the back half of the second hour. We
only have like twenty minutes left here with our guest
Melissa Kane, who is a UFO experiencer also founder of
the Contact Modalities Expo, which will be coming up May
of next year. Make sure if you're in the vicinity,

(01:30:29):
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get into I just we had Drew BANKI had posted
a question and let's start off with Drew's question here.
He said, how did it feel when it hit you

(01:30:52):
that your conference was a success manifestation realization moment?

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
It felt amazing, felt surreal, like I felt like, you know,
I literally felt floating. You know, it was amazing, but
it just it was just amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
But you know what if I recognized the small little manifestations,
you know that that work out, and you know, if
you acknowledge them all the time, whether they're you know,
getting a good parking spot, you know, in front of
the ball game or you know, wherever you're at. You
acknowledge these little wins, then a big win happens and
you're just like, yes, thank you. I knew you had
got my back, you know, because I don't feel like

(01:31:32):
I did it, even though I did build it on
my own. I used my pendulum constantly. You know, I
had my team of spirit guides helping me. And I
know that sounds bizarre, but it's so true.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Do you ever speak at your own events as a speaker?

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
No, I've never. I've never spoken at an event. My
little retreat. I'll do a little uh, a little ceremony
because Drew and his beautiful wife Ella inspired my love
for ritual and ceremony. Talk about two people that do
a damn good ceremony. So I do a little ceremony
at my retreats. But no, I don't speak at the events.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Yeah, yeah, me and Drew Baks we're going to connect
to some point here. We've been talking about it for
a while. I definitely want to experience one of those
ceremonies too, So that will be a thing now when
you and actually, let me bring this back up on
the screen for everybody So this is the contact Medeli's
expert that we're talking about here, that Melissa is the

(01:32:33):
founder of all these great speakers. She's going to have
Jimmy Church m seeing this thing. Chris bled So probably
doing some awesome C five stuff along with the dev shocked.
He bringing good energy. And I'm just pointing out people
that I do know. A lot of these other people
I'm not familiar with, but I'm pretty sure that they're
awesome as well, Otherwise they wouldn't be set up to speak.

(01:32:58):
But you know, you're the conduit, right, so you you know,
and I tell everybody everyone has a part to play
in disclosure and kind of moving the needle and it
could you know, you're putting on the event. You're creating
the space for all these minds that come together and
have this conversation. Do you record this and what do
you are you putting it out as a videot recorded

(01:33:19):
video for later or how does that work?

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
The expo? Yeah, so we are having some of the
main presentations will be recorded. The keynote presentations will be
recorded and will be put put on our YouTube channel
for everybody to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Okay, so is last year is one up there? Right now.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
No, we didn't record last year. I had to. I
was like drinking from a fire hose. I had to
make sure that I did, you know, the basics. But
it was always on the docket to do in twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Is this your second or third?

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
This one will be upcoming?

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Is my second second? Okay, this is going to try.
It was the very very first and maybe we'll talk
to you afterwards. I don't want to see, like, what
is the Does the turnout seem to be growing because
it seems like in the public, just the whole idea
of what the extratrustrial presence is here, seems like more
people are being open to it. Seems like, you know,

(01:34:17):
a lot of news outlets are now covering it without
the stigma, and it just seems like it's more out
there now. And I'm seeing reporters asking really good questions
and really seeming like they are like they really want
the answers as well. Are you getting that when you
look around? What do you think about that the media

(01:34:37):
language point?

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
Yes, you know, we have a lot of people that
show up that are just curious because they've been following
the New York Times and you know, these things that
have been coming out in since twenty seventeen. But they're
not all in, you know, but one when they come
to an expo like this. So, for instance, a wonderful
gentleman who lives in LA or he lives in he

(01:35:00):
lives in California. I thought he was an LA but
I don't nowhere. But he came to my expo and
he couldn't believe it. He was curious, knew a little bit.
He wanted to dip his toe in. He came to
the expo Loves Chris Bledsoe, and then following the expo,
he came to my retreat, which was at the end
of August right after that, and he is just like
blossoming like a rose. He's just just can't just gobble

(01:35:24):
in it all up, just from all different directions. And
he was one of those people who just you know,
was like something piqued his interest and he figured he'd
check it out. And now he's just like WHOA. So yeah,
there's a lot of that going on nowadays. And you know,
when you have like people like doctor Diane Hennessy, who's
a neuropsychologist from Harvard, you know, like these brainiacs, it

(01:35:48):
gives this stuff credibility too. So I have friends that
I grew up with. The wife is a doctor in psychology.
The husband's an ex military guy and he's like a
banker now and he's all into the conspiracy stuff and whatever.
But but she's not. She thinks he's crazy and she
thinks I'm crazy in a loving way. But they can
both come to this expo. Because I just was telling

(01:36:09):
him the other day, I'm like, good, Donnie, you can
come too and see all the cool stuff that I love.
But then Kirsen can sit and talk and listen to
doctor Diane Hennessy, who will speak that language, you know.
But you know, there's so many different people with so
many different backgrounds here in this group of presenters that
there's really something for everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Last year we had Dan Breuley, who is like the
master of breath work. He's been teaching breath work for
fifty three years. He's like, he's like as big as
like a whim Hoff type. He's lived with oh show,
he's done it all. He's been in the met Tibet
in the mountains with the monks, and you know, he's
done it all. And he came and did my event

(01:36:53):
because he was kind of curious about it because I
was taking the online course, a breathwork course, and which
really people that want to learn to meditate or want
to have their contact experience heightened breath work. Oh that
took me to the whole other level. But anyway, he
came to this event, and you know, people who followed

(01:37:16):
him which were kind of like more mainstreamy kind of
helped self helpy people, you know, because Danbrulay Tony Robbins
was his client is his client. Dambrulay teaches Olympian Olympian
swimmers and Olympic athletes. He trains NFL teams and stuff,
so he's very much more on the mainstream kind of.

(01:37:38):
So people came that were followers of him, but then
they had this whole other world open up to them.
UFO is something that they've never even considered in their life,
and now they're seeing how it's not only relevant, but
it's probably true and it's a major, a major thing.
So I forgot my appointment, you know, when we.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
And Ashley, I know one of our viewers brought this
up earlier, Roger Murray, but uh, being that you're from Chicago,
and we're talking about you know, one of the big
moments in UFO history obviously is the UFO siding at
the O'Hare airport in Oh yeah six. Were you there
during that time and do you remember it being part

(01:38:22):
of the news cycle?

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
Which year was it was that in two thousand and six? Six, Yes,
two thousand and six, So yeah, I was. I was
in Chicago, and I remember that this was before my awakening,
So while I would have been very I captured on
the news and I was like, oh, that's pretty awesome.
But again, it wasn't that big a deal for me.
I was in like I had just gotten married. I

(01:38:45):
think we were renovating our house. I was like pregnant
with my son, so you know, there was a lot
of real life stuff going on at the time. But
Sam Mouranto, who is in the bottom left of this,
he is a the director of move for Illinois, the
bottom left, and he's the one who covered that case

(01:39:05):
extensively when it happened, So he'll probably be speaking about
it at the expo because he was like all the witnesses,
all the you know, airline people and the pilots and
da da da da dah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Do you feel like, because I feel like when they
put themselves on display like that, that they are attempting
to contact humanity, like there is something they're wanting to make,
some sort of connection. It would appear because they could
watch from somewhere else. They don't have to watch from
one hundred feet above the tarmac, So it's like it
seems like that. And then there's a you know, the

(01:39:42):
school incidents and a bunch of other incidents where it
would appear that they're just trying to make this direct contact.
What do you think about that? Do you you know,
obviously it doesn't seem that we're ready for that, but
do you think that we're probably missing something as far
as we are missing the message. Maybe we're missing the message,

(01:40:04):
but maybe our government isn't and maybe they're the ones
that are stepping in and making the contact moment. Do
you feel like any of that is going on?

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
I feel like these ets who are millions of years
ahead of us and intelligence, wisdom and everything, the ones
that are coming in close contact to us, who are
allowed to because we're supposedly being protected by whatever, the
Galactic Federation or whatever. I think they're doing this to

(01:40:37):
wake us up they're doing this on purpose because while
there might be you know, one hundred people there who
saw that craft or whatever, maybe ninety of them saw
it and just thought it was some kind of weird,
cool thing, but ten of them might have had their
entire life just blown out of the water and completely changed. So,

(01:40:59):
because they can't really interfere too much, obviously, because of
the will, the free will that we have, they're just
showing up whenever they can. And I do believe it's
one hundred percent deliberate, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
I just always have asked for that moment where we
get like, for instance, the top CE five pressure, which
I guess we could probably consider Chris Bledsoe maybe to
be to fill that spot. Then also a top channeler
out there, and just have this moment where we get
you know, this done in front of the world all
at once at one time. Have you ever thought about

(01:41:36):
that or considered setting something like that up.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
That is a brilliant idea. It's awesome. I think even
if we did something so major like that, I feel like,
you know, since we're talking a lot about the powers
that be, I think they will do everything there in
their power to not let that message go out, they'll
create some kind of false flag that'll have, like right

(01:42:01):
during this huge amazing moment between Chris Bledsoe and Basha
or whatever, they'll create some kind of world crisis that
takes everyone's attention off of the awesomeness and the truth
and put it on some kind of negative bs and
the messages will go down the tubes. It's happened time
and time again when there's been some big, awesome, profound

(01:42:24):
things in the contact world, and then they'll some you know,
pandemic will happen or something will happen that will take
our mind off of it, get us back into our
little shivering human form, and they regain control.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
And I feel like that has been the status quo
up up till now. It just feels like right now
that because of this whole thing, that a lot of
people are being able to see through the veil now
and see the tricks that are being pulled, Like we
know this within this community that they do this. They'll
you know, slight a hand look over there, so we

(01:43:00):
know that they do that. But I think that in
this moment, because we're like everyone is going through it,
and I think the world is affected by even what
we're going through here in the United States. But it
just feels like a moment where people are now being
able to see through that trick, and so it would
be the perfect time to have an event like that

(01:43:23):
where you have everyone's attention, they're no longer falling for
the look over there, and we were able to sit,
you know, do this on a national or a global stage.
And the reason why I say that is because there
I feel like in order to really make some sort
of movement or shift within humanity is going to take

(01:43:45):
a moment where we have everyone's attention. And there's only
been a couple events like that, like the pandemic, we
had everyone's attention, so it'd been perfect to deliver a
message during that time. Then we had everybody's attention again,
which I didn't think it would happen that quickly. But
during the drone situation back in January, where everyone's looking

(01:44:06):
at this one thing, everyone is having this fear, they're
wondering what this is, So that'd have been a perfect
time to kind of inject the which kind of it
did the UFO conversation into that, But it's just like,
you know, and it just feels like because we're going
through this moment as a whole, as humanity, This would
be the perfect moment to like do something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
I agree with you. I agree. You know Chris Bledsoe,
you know, he's been doing such hard work and trying
to get in front of the government. He had UFO
sightings with some top dog excuse me people right in
front of the Capitol building, which got some press and
got some you know, stuff out there. He was just
with Sammy Hagar last weekend and then had dinner with

(01:44:52):
Margot Robbie, and I mean he's trying to you know,
and they're inviting him. They're inviting him to go there.
He's going with his wife and he's showing them what
he does. And you know, the method behind his madness
is when you get these influencer types, you know, on
board and to experience it for themselves. That's the way

(01:45:16):
they're going to deliver the message to the masses, because
the government's never going to do it. He's never going
to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
You're saying the same down said that exact same thing.
I say. It's going to take you know, or you
have someone like a person with a million followers on
TikTok that can get to a million individuals, and you
have if you pick like ten of the most influential people,
you got a good chunk of the population that that

(01:45:45):
you'd have their attention. And then also, you know I'm seeing,
which is also a cool thing to see, is that
I'm seeing you know, influencers try to take that on
right now in this moment where they may have never
talked about aliens at uf ever to their audience or
on their channel, and they're kind of shifting into doing that,

(01:46:05):
and it's like, Yeah, it's like it's an exciting thing
to see. I'm seeing political channels that are now you know,
kind of delving in a little bit to the UFOs
and at least presenting it to their audience. So I
think that's a good thing. Is definitely something that we
need to have. And but you know, the powers that
be is we'll call them shadow government governments. They want

(01:46:27):
to keep us so segregated and separated that we can
never come together and have the moment that we need
to have. And that's why it's so important to take
advantage because that structure that they've set up is so
strong and it's been here for so long, there's only
so many different things that could break that up or

(01:46:47):
allow the people to break out of that trance for
a moment. And it's like events like that are big events.
And it's like even with the three Eye at Lis
it turns out to be nothing, it's still something everybody's
looking at, and it's like, Okay, we have everyone's attention.
And I think that's why I applaud av Low for
at least stepping out there, because the story would just
be there's a comment passing by and nothing else to

(01:47:10):
think about here. But at least Ivy Low took that
moment when everyone is looking to say, hey, it could
be this other thing though, you know what I mean,
and it at least opens that part of people's minds.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
So yeah, I frankly, when I heard that he did
say that, I was surprised and very happy.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Yes, yeah, so, you know, like I said, with all
these experiences that you have here, we're trying to get
Chris Buts on the show. You know, he did something
big that I thought was pretty big when he had
this CE five event at I guess it was in Washington,
d C. During the last hearings, And I'm just.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Front of the Capitol building.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
You would have thought that got some sort of press.
I don't know how that didn't make, you know, news.
I don't know what it would have taken to kind
of take that to the next level, but he did
right there in front of the government. Like, but I
guess they know. I guess it's because they already know.
So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
how to feel about that. But every time we miss

(01:48:10):
an opportunity, it's like, dang, you don't know when that
next opportunity would be.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
It's going to come.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Yeah, right, so what do you do? What do you
do about that?

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
I think we just need to keep on trucking. We
need to keep doing it, you know, and different people.
You know, Chris is now, you know, he's had his
experience his way back in two thousand and seven, but
it's only since he wrote his book and maybe the
last five years or so that he's really getting out
there and really you know, talking to a lot of people.

(01:48:40):
There's always going to be new people coming up, you know,
and we just have to reach as many. Again, it's
it's stuff like this, it's stuff what you're doing, what
you're doing now through media. You know, one of the
things that Sid Goldberg is going to be at the
expo as my guest, but he doesn't want to present,
but I really want to encourage him to speak about

(01:49:01):
or even Jimmy could speak about this, or you could
speak about this. How media itself is a contact modality.
It's what woke me up boom just seeing a silly documentary.
But this this kind of work where we reach as
many people as possible and just plant those little seeds.
Some of them are going to grow, some of them aren't.

(01:49:24):
But it's the only way that the job is going
to finally get done.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
I think you know what it's it's it's I appreciate
that and opening that up, you know, because I think
they're some of the most important voices. You know, may
not be these top names. It could be just your
average person out there that has thought this through and
has some great ideas or some perspectives that will add

(01:49:49):
to the conversation. So I appreciate you even you know,
making an offer like that. And I would love to
come and say something if I do show up there.
If it's just a couple of words, that'd be fine
with me. Have to give a whole speech. But right,
I just feel like everybody has a part to play
in this, and you know, it may not be a speaker.
I tell people all the time. You know, you're at home.

(01:50:11):
You know, we're doing a lot of this stuff from
our couches, from our living rooms, and it's like that
might be the thing that you could do. Maybe you could,
you know, just organize something within your little area, within
your group of friends or within your family members, or
at least have the conversation or just bring someone to
one of the shows. You know, that could be the

(01:50:33):
part that you could play in this. And it's just,
you know, I just want everyone to know you don't
have to be this big speaker or have a show
or be a guest in order.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
To what You're totally right. And that's what we were
talking earlier about me holding the space. You know, I
was immersed right after my awakening and see five and
then all had all these great teachers as my best friends.
Deb's being one of them. Can pour the bunch of people, right,
They're all amazing teachers, teachers, They dive deep and they teach, teach, teach,

(01:51:06):
And for a while there, I'm like, well you know,
I don't. I don't teach, you know, I don't teach.
I've got little kids, I've got a business, I run,
I got all these things. But I'm really passionate about it.
But what I realized is that I have a knack
for bringing people together, bringing the right people together that
are heart based, you know, love based, profound in their vein,

(01:51:28):
you know, whatever they is. They're teaching. And that's a
really good job for me. And it's an important one.
And you know, just people around me that support my work,
you know, that's a really big thing. Just just supporting
someone who does the work is a huge job because
it lets that teacher, you know, like a blood see

(01:51:51):
or any of these people. It lets them keep going.
So every they're no job is too small, like you said,
you know, talking to your friend, talking to your neighbor,
having a little book club, or bringing them to a show,
all that's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Huge, huge, And what would you leave, like, what type
of message do you want to leave, like the audience
with here tonight, just as far as the phenomenon goes,
or even the speaking towards the contact modalities expo either.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
Or well, first of all, I want to thank you
so much. I loved being here tonight. Rob You are great.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
I love it so much.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
You're such a gifted question or interviewer. I would just
like to leave everybody with the message that you know,
it is scary out there. It is can be very
very frightening. But the one of the biggest takeaways from
this event, and not only from the presenters but the

(01:52:52):
attendees of course, is the sense of community that you
get when you when you get yourself out and walk
to an event like this in person and meet your tribe.
Because so many of us are going through these various
stages of awakening and these various stages of you know,
I don't know what's happening here, I don't know what's

(01:53:13):
happening with the world. But when you get together with
other like minded people and you really show love and community,
that's the answer to all of it. So I urge you,
whether it's our event or any event close to you,
be with people, because that is what breaks all the barriers,
all the boundaries, is that face to face, you know,

(01:53:34):
seeing that we are definitely much more the same than different.
When you're together face to face.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
Love That great way to end it Contactwidealitesexpo dot com. Guys,
is where you can find Melissa. Kay, Melissa, you've been awesome,
Thanks for coming in. Have a great rest of your night.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
Thank you, Thank you.

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Take care.

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we appreciate and love the fact that he's part of
the show. Let's jump right on into it.

Speaker 10 (02:00:29):
Welcome to Tales Untold and Missing Person's Mysteries on spaced
Out Radios after Hours. My name is Steve Stockton, and
I'm here to take you on a journey of mysteries,
legends and true stories. Come join me on this strange
adventure of tales untold and missing person mysteries. Hello friends.

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This episode, we're gonna be discussing Rocky Mountain disappearance and tragedies. Now,
the Rocky Mountains, also known simply as the Rockies, are
major mountain range and the largest mountain system in North America.
The Rocky Mountains formed eighty million to fifty five million
years ago during the Larida mitorrogyny, from which a number
of plates began sliding underneath the North American Plate. The

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angle of subduction was shallow, resulting in a broad built
of mountains running down in western North America. Of the
one hundred highest peaks in the Rocky Mountains, seventy eight,
including the thirty highest, are located in Colorado, ten and Wyoming,
six in New Mexico, here in Montana, and one in Utah.
Public parks and forest lands protect much of the mountain

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range and their very popular tourist destinations, especially for hiking, camping, mountaineering, fishing, hunting,
mountain biking, snowmobiling, skiing, and snowboarding. Being in the Rocky
Mountains had been said to literally make people feel like
they're on top of the world, or, as John Denver sang,
Rocky Mountain high. Today, though the breathtaking views and scenic

(02:01:59):
landscapes of the US gorgeous Mountain Range aren't the reason
we're bringing you this video. There is something else entirely
and something entirely sinister in what we will be discussing
with you today. Bizarre and tragic deaths and disappearances in
the Rockies are far too common, and because most national
parks don't keep very good records of they're missing and deceased,

(02:02:20):
if they keep any at all, we think it necessary
to review this information and a few of the very
many cases like this. Between nineteen fifteen, when Rocky Mountain
became a National park and twenty fifteen, a total of
three hundred and forty four park visitors have died as
a result of accidents, car crashes, heart attacks, and various

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other reasons. Included in those statistics are sixty stunning fatalities
associated with climbing Long's Peak in particular. While, of course
we can't dig into every single one of these tragedies
in this short video, let's dig a little deeper into
just a few of them. Are the bizarre and strange
deaths and disappearances in the Rocky Mountains. The average age

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for those that have died on the mountain is thirty
two point five. The oldest person to die was seventy
five when he slipped on ice along the narrow section
of the Keyhole route. There are also two sixteen year
olds that died on that peak, one in nineteen thirty
two and the other in nineteen eighty. A total of
nine victims were teenagers, which represents fifteen percent.

Speaker 1 (02:03:26):
Of all deaths. This data was collected back.

Speaker 10 (02:03:29):
In twenty thirteen, and as you can imagine, at least
a few more deaths of teenagers have occurred at one
point another from.

Speaker 1 (02:03:36):
One thing or another since then.

Speaker 10 (02:03:38):
During the first decade of the twenty first century, eight
fatalities have been recorded. However, the deadliest decade was the
nineteen seventies, when the mountain claimed the lives of thirteen people.
Mountaineering in particular, can be one of the most dangerous
outdoor activities one can take part in when out in
the Rockies or on any mountain range for that matter.

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Despite these, however, people have been climbing for thousands of years.
It's the perfect thing to do if you have a
great love of the outdoors and a spirit of adventure
to go along with it. Some have said that while
out in Mother Nature, as scenic as the views from
so high above the rest of the world. Are you
start to realize how absolutely insignificant you are in the
grand scheme of things. It's very humbling, I reiterate. However,

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it's also extremely dangerous, and one tiny mistake or misstep
can cost you your veried life. Take the case of
Matthew Burkelow, who, on June ninth, twenty fourteen, at around
two o'clock in the morning, got into his Honda Fit
and drove an hour from his home to the Long's
Peak trailhead. The twenty five year old hiker planned on

(02:04:46):
summoning the Front Range's most prominent fourteen thousand foot mountain
and returning to Fort Collins in time for his afternoon
shift at a King Supers Pharmacy, where he was a
certified pharmacy technician. He had his whole life mapped out.
He would study physics at CSU and then attended pharmaceutical school.
He made the summit, but he unfortunately did not make

(02:05:07):
it off the mountain alive. Matthew Burkelow became the fifty
ninth fatality on Long's Peak, one of, if not the
most deadly peaks in Colorado. Matthew was born and raised
in Georgia, but according to his load ones, Colorado simply
stole his heart. He didn't have a cell phone, as
he believed he had no use for one. He didn't

(02:05:27):
have credit cards either. He was building websites at the
age of eight, however, and his family insisted he was
a stringent planner in everything he did, so what happened
on the mountain. Matthew was an experienced hiker who had
recently started ice climbing and had completed the Appalachian Trail
two years before his fatal journey. His family reported that

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he was a meticulous planner who treated the mountains with
tremendous respect. For months, Matthew had planned the twenty one
and sixty mile Appalachian Trail track from Georgia to how
much food he needed, where he could restock supplies, how
many miles a day he could manage, Where he'd meet
his wife, Hayley, who would drive from Tennessee on the

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weekends with fresh supplies, and they'd spend Saturday nights together.
His father said of his son that anything Matthew did,
he excelled at and if he couldn't be the best
at it, then it wasn't for him.

Speaker 1 (02:06:22):
Back to that faithful day.

Speaker 10 (02:06:24):
In June twenty fourteen, Matthew's extensive planning and collection of
the newest invest outdoor gear earned him the trail name Fancy.
He climbed the fourteen two hundred and fifty nine foot
tall Longs Peak alone in winter conditions that would caution
hikers to include crampons, a helmet, and an ice axe.
He had indeed packed all those things except for the helmet.

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After recovering Matthew's body, Rocky Mountain National Park Search and
Rescue rangers investigated the fatal accident. Piecing together what clues
they had at her disposal, they found photos of Matthew
smiling on the summit. After two previous unsuccessful attempts, it
reached Rocky Mountain National Park's highest point and the fourteenth

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most difficult fourteener, which are peaks fourteen thousand feet or
high or higher in the lingo of the climbers, among
the fifty four in Colorado, as rated by fourteeners dot com.
Despite the calendar showing the month of June, Long's Peak
still exhibited winter conditions. On the evening of June eighth,

(02:07:28):
just hours before Matthew let fort collins for the trailhead.
Rocky Mountain National Park closed the high elevation Trail Ridge
Road to it being covered in a new sheet of ice.
About a foot of snow covered the trough, the narrows
and the ledgis section of the keyhole route, and the
home stretch, a steep slab of granite near the summit
had many sections slick with ice.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
Matthew fell from the.

Speaker 10 (02:07:53):
Section of the mountain, a series of narrow ledges with
a drop off of two thousand feet or more. Sadly,
Matthew wasn't this particular spot's first victim either. It already
traversed the steep home stretch and the snowy narrows, and
had nearly reached the keyhole, the final hurdle before the
simple scrambled down the boulder field. It should have been

(02:08:13):
easy going from there back to his vehicle, but Matthew fell,
perhaps on a slick section of snow or ice, or
maybe because of tired legs or a brief second of inattention.
He fell approximately six hundred feet and his body was
found in a rocky outcropping below the mark section of
the trough. Chances of surviving a fall of that magnitude

(02:08:33):
are extremely slim, said Rocky Mountain National Park Eastristrict Ranger
Mark Pete. Matthew's body was flown to the helipad at
Upper Beaver Meadows in Rocky Mountain National Park and transferred
to the Boulder County Corner's Office looking back. Perhaps the
most famous person to perish on the mountain was Agnes Vale.

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On January twenty fifth, nineteen twenty five, she became the
first woman to climb Long's Peak in the winter. While
making her descend along the Keyhole route, Vale slipped and
fell about one hundred and fifty feet. Exhausted and running
out of steam, Agnes assisted She needed a short nap,
but froze to death before her hiking partner could bring help.

Speaker 2 (02:09:15):
Back.

Speaker 10 (02:09:17):
Today, just below the Keyhole is the Agnes Vale Shelter,
built as a memorial to miss Veil. The shelter also
serves as a refuge for hikers and climbers in need.
Another notable death occurred way back in eighteen eighty nine,
prior to the park even being established. A man named
Frank Striker was descending down the home stretch on the

(02:09:38):
Keyhole route when a loaded pistol fell out of his
pocket and discharged it into his neck. Some say this
was carm at work, as the twenty eight year old
was taking pleasure and launching large bowlders down the mountain
while climbing up himself. The newspaper account at the time
said he announced his intentions of sending off a particularly
huge stone just before the accident occurred. Continued to cling

(02:10:00):
to life for ten more hours while his companions attempted
to transport him.

Speaker 1 (02:10:04):
Down the mountain on a makeshift litter.

Speaker 10 (02:10:07):
He died of his injuries shortly thereafter. Now, there is
so much more statistically that we could look at to
try and make sense of these senseless tragedies. Even the
well prepared and most obsessive compulsive have accidents. Nobody goes
mountain climbing or hiking expecting to never make it back
home to their loved ones alive. Let's discuss some other tragedies,

(02:10:30):
ones that didn't have to do with climbing. There are
literally thousands of ways to die on the mountain no matter.

Speaker 1 (02:10:37):
What you're doing.

Speaker 10 (02:10:38):
Committedly, however, being in nature and being careless is almost
always a recipe for disaster. Being unprepared is also a
surefire way to get yourself in trouble out there in
the woods.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
What about the unexplained?

Speaker 10 (02:10:52):
This video wouldn't be a complete video if we didn't
mention at least one of the more strange and bizarre,
unexplained deaths that happened in the Rockies. Take the mysterious
disappearance of Keith Reinhardt. Keith was a sports reporter at
the Daily Herald in Chicago in nineteen eighty eight when
he announced he'd be taking the next ninety days off
to fulfill his lifelong dream to spend some time living

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in the Rocky Mountains. In a letter he wrote to
a friend, Keith stated, I love these mountains and want
to live in them before I die. So he took
off for Silver Plume, Colorado, a small mining town of
two hundred that sits inside the ira Appahole National Forest
at the foot of the Rocky Mountains.

Speaker 1 (02:11:32):
Ironically, and more.

Speaker 10 (02:11:33):
Than just a little eerily, Keith had another reason for
wanting to visit this particular tiny little mining town. In
addition to fulfilling his one dream, he was also hoping
to achieve another. This was to write a novel about
the disappearance of Tom Young. Tom was another man who
just happened to have disappeared from that same exact mining town,

(02:11:54):
But in September of nineteen eighty seven, he immediately opened
an antiques or in the building which used to house
Tom Young's bookstore. He wanted to get a feel for
Tom's life so he could more easily and authentically write
about him. Late one afternoon, severely hungover from a previous
night of heavy drinking and having fun, Keith Reinhart went

(02:12:15):
to hike Pendleton Mountain and never returned. More than one
hundred people logged over ten thousand hours searching and never
found a clue as to what had happened to him.
Sometimes the answer is there is no answer, ryin Hart's widow,
Carolin O'Donnell told The Daily Herald in two thousand and eight.
Sometimes there really isn't, not that any answer could ever

(02:12:38):
be satisfactory enough. Surely for the deceased person's loved ones.
To have to reconcile yourself to the fact that someone
so important to you and that you love so much
is gone and never to return again must be hard enough.
But to have to make sense out of the fact
that somewhere so incredibly beautiful, scenic, and mostly peaceful and
serene is the cause of that person, since demids it

(02:13:02):
bothers the mind and has to be quite unbearable. So
in closing, make sure went out in the woods, even
if you're just camping, or if you are hiking, climbing,
et cetera, whether you're in the national parks or even
in your own backyard, that you're well prepared and careful.
If you absolutely must go alone, always be sure to
tell at least one other person where you're going and

(02:13:24):
when you expect to be back. A lot of people
even go so far as to give a time that,
if they haven't yet returned, that the authorities are to
be called. You can find so many safety tips online
these days, so please do your own research before going
out into the wilderness. There you have it, folks, just
a few of the strange deaths in the Rocky Mountains.

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I look forward to your comments, but please keep it
friendly and respectful. In the meanwhile, be good to yourselves
and each other, and I'll see you just a little
farther on down the trail. I'm Steve Stockton, and I'll
talk to you next time.

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
Steve Stockton tells him told miss person mysteries once again. Awesome,
awesome stuff, Steve, thanks for being the part of the show.
We do appreciate that. And uh yeah, just just taking
care of each other.

Speaker 3 (02:14:16):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:14:16):
That's That's always a good message to end off with,
because we go ahead and get ready to jump into
our after hours wrap up with none other than the
guy that you all know, the guy that you all love,
mister Drew bank You Lord, you're a little monster, the
man I'm gonna eat you.

Speaker 6 (02:14:36):
Get in my demaheadt.

Speaker 5 (02:14:48):
You lost?

Speaker 1 (02:14:55):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, After Hours wrap up with Drew
Banky in the building, Drew Ski, how you been yo?

Speaker 2 (02:15:04):
Yo yo? What a great conversation.

Speaker 1 (02:15:06):
Huh. I was gonna say the same thing with an
awesome conversation. Melissa came with the contact modelities I spoke
you were uh you were offered a spot there to
speak last year, which you went in and did. How
was your experience there?

Speaker 2 (02:15:22):
It was great? It was great. You know, getting to
meet Chris face faced, that was, you know, changed my
perspective of him what I had and yeah, I got
to know. I talked to him. We messaged back and
forth pretty often. We just messed in today just a
few hours ago really, so some of the relations and contact.

Speaker 3 (02:15:47):
That was there.

Speaker 2 (02:15:49):
Yeah, and and just to speak a little bit about
weird things that happened around it, Like I got there,
so that they the speakers there, they really take she
really takes care of them. She puts them. They all
have their own like room or share a room in
this hotel, so it's kind of and the conference is

(02:16:11):
all in the same area, so most of the people
are staying on site, and uh so it's a really
nice setup. But uh the point is they book your
room for you, Like you get there and you know,
you just tell like tell them you're a speaker, and
tell them your name, and they have a room already

(02:16:31):
ready for you. My room, like just to start off
with was eleven eleven, so it was right to begin with.
It was like signs for me like this was, you know,
where I was supposed to be and things like that.
And there was other things that happened that was just
really cool to witness. There was a U and to

(02:16:53):
hear Chris tell the story in person, and you know,
it was nice to see and and other people too.
You know, obviously I've been around Debs before. We've I've
known Debs and Melissa for you for about five or
six years. We met around the same time. I was
out there leading a retreat for her years back, and

(02:17:14):
that's how we first met. So but yeah, Dev's with there,
and I attended her presentation and stuff like that and
her meditation and witness her channeling. It was pretty cool.
And she's going to be back again this coming year.
So yeah, if anyone wants to like experience devshak To
in person is going to be a good one. And

(02:17:35):
some of these other names just to explain, like, there's
gonna be like telepathy tapes, like just to on the
other side that little hand. I think it's uh, I
can't read the name, but that's uh. Like I think
that's the mother of the telepathy tapes. And then you
have the doctor Hennessy with the telepty tapes.

Speaker 6 (02:17:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:17:56):
Sarah Cosmos is going to be there. Like there's a
lot of amazing headline names. So it's gonna be good.
And you know, I'm sure Chris is going to share,
you know, the origin story, how it all happened again
in person so and other things. So and I'm sure

(02:18:16):
he's gonna be doing another Skywash I didn't. I didn't
get to experience the skywash because it kind of got
moved around because of the weather and all that. But uh, firsthand.
But yeah, he's uh, he's been doing it so and
doing it and proving it.

Speaker 1 (02:18:31):
So yeah, and that's pretty much all you've asked for, right,
I mean, when it comes down to this is show
improve and hey, let's see the evidence. Right. So if
he's going out there, he's doing this in front of people, Uh,
you know, you can't really what can you say? What
can you say unless you know it's been rumored. Obviously

(02:18:52):
the doctor Steve mcgreer is going to lengths as to
pre set up things to happen at particular events. Now,
obviously there's ways that you could go about seeing if
that's what a person does or not, has done or not.
And I would assume that, you know, learning from from
that previous incident that someone has I would hope checked. Uh,

(02:19:14):
you know, Chris Bleds on something like this made sure
that you know, someone putting it put up in the air,
you know, ahead of time, in order to make this
sighting happen. But uh, you know, I'm I'm on the
team of until I see something that says that that
that that he's not doing this, I'm gonna I'm gonna,
I'm gonna go, along with the fact that he's able

(02:19:36):
to call these things in and you know, the only
here's a lot of people be like, oh, well that's crazy.
Why would you just go You're not even out there
to experience it. But at the same time, we understand
what consciousness is. We talk about it all the time.
We understand the consciousness is something that we experience, and
it's very likely what these extraterrestrials experienced too, because that's

(02:19:59):
how the these connections are being made to begin with.
Not just see five, but but even when some people
talk about downloads or you know, other scenarios where yeah,
you kind of just thought it up or you kind
of just connected through through your bout you know what
I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (02:20:16):
Good, No, no, I totally get it. I totally get
It's the just having those moments, those epiphany moments, you know,
And it could be you know, number sequences like I
was just talking about, like checking in and being the
room number being eleven eleven, like right off the bat,
or or other things.

Speaker 6 (02:20:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:20:35):
I'm but two, I've met Chris in person at all
I can say, like my personal take on it, he's
a legit person that had legit experience, and who am
I to and who am I to question someone's mission here?
Maybe Hinton is to call these things in and bring
attention in like that, which he's doing, like and he's

(02:20:58):
he's bringing a spiritual context to it, like you know,
a religious or or should I go as far to
say prophetic like context to it. And you know that's uh,
it's all positive, like like I'm telling you from when
I what every vibe that I got from he's a

(02:21:19):
very positive person that's had a profound experience and got
asked to do a profound thing. How can I believe
that because I'm going through it myself, like I'm you know,
I've been I've been giving green light to talk about
like what I'm going through, you know openly I'm going
through a very similar thing right now. So it's I
can't like discredit someone else. And plus, like you know,

(02:21:42):
everything that I've seen him accomplishing, it's it's all positive.
He's he's bringing a consciousness aspect to what's happening in
the sky and whether it be you know, connected through
a spiritual uh demigod or anything like that, Like, uh,

(02:22:04):
it doesn't it doesn't matter, like how the message is
like when you're there, like when you're around him, you
know yet that he's had a genuine experience and anyone
that's had a genuine experience. You know, he talks about
how it's it was hard for him to tell his
story and how he got ridiculed. Man, I like, who
everybody that's ever had an experience and went to share

(02:22:25):
it like they've everyone has been ridiculed by somebody, you know,
And it's just so you can relate, you know, and
you can you can you can feel the vibrations all
I got to say. And yeah, we're in a prophetic time,
like we're going through there's Native American propheties that it

(02:22:46):
said that we were literally restart. There's Native American prophecies
that are unfolding before us. And you know, it's it
is really happening right here in this moment. Like that's
all I can say.

Speaker 7 (02:22:57):
I was.

Speaker 2 (02:22:57):
I was speaking to uh to bear Cross yesterday and
I was setting at our kitchen table and I had
the big window looking out looking at the creek and
then our woods that we have. And so one of
the spirits that are really connected to the Whippy Ceremony,
and particular Chief bear Cross is a coyote spirit. And

(02:23:21):
I'm looking out there, and I'm not lying like I
had to look a few times to make sure I
was seeing what I was seeing. But it was a
coyote walking across right on the other side of the
bank along the creek. And he stopped and looked at me,
and as I was speaking to bear Cross so and

(02:23:42):
then he kept going. I had to catch him a
few times. I got off my phone tried to get
a picture of him. I couldn't get a picture of him,
but I was questioning what I was really seeing. Man,
it was so profound in that moment.

Speaker 1 (02:23:57):
And as we're going to break here, we're actually going
to break last break of the night here. Uh, we'll
come back and have you explained. You know, some people
understand what that means to have that, Kyle Die take
a look at you. So we'll kind of elaborate on
that and a lot more after this break here. Make
sure you don't go anywhere spaced out. Radio that after
that was radio showing me your host, mister Roberg, will
be back here with Drew Bank you after hours wrap

(02:24:18):
up and end of the night off with some UFO
and weird news. We're gonna also talk about three I
Atlas when we come back, because there's some weird stuff
going on there. Make sure you come back. If you leave,
make sure you come right back. Spaced Out Radio, We'll
see you back in a minute. All right, we are

(02:24:42):
clear crystal clear. Yeah, Well this was awesome man, Kay
Tammidelli's expo. You know, like I said, I this is
far enough out right, because I know last time I
talked to deb so we were like promoting the event,
it was like gonna happen in a couple of months
or something like that, not really a lot of time
to prepare. But shoot, we're in November here, has a

(02:25:05):
good six months out something like that, six seven months,
So I really want to attend one of these events
and and you know, just have that moment to say
a couple of words, you know what I mean. So
I think I might try to, uh, but I know
Space Out Radio is doing their the Vegas thing in May,
and I think it's just like it was last time,

(02:25:27):
and that was another conflict that was right during that time.
So I got to see when our dates are for that.

Speaker 2 (02:25:33):
I sure was. I remember that it's a because it's
it's the very first weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:25:38):
Then in May. So yeah, tomor Man, you're right, Devs
is that she's nint she is. That's why she'll be
here in two weeks. Uh, bring you some really good
energy we needed. It's time for that, and uh, you know,
we need an energy shift. And I don't know, you know,
we live in our lives and so busy day to

(02:25:59):
day day to day that we don't have time to
sit and meditate, is Melissa was talking about earlier tonight,
and you know, maybe DEVS can kind of she always
does bring some of that that positive energy into the building.

Speaker 2 (02:26:13):
Yeah, no doubt she is. Uh you know, she's definitely connected.
And that's just uh, you know what. What takes me
back to what Melissa was talking about during interviews about
how uh and the reason I asked just a little backstory.
The reason I asked that because I was there when

(02:26:36):
and I saw it when it hit her, like it
all come together, and like because she's been working on
that conference for like a year or so, like like
uh Melissa was and debs DEVS was part of it too,
like that Debs helps in the background too a lot
and a lot of other people. But Melissa worked a
lot on it, I know, I know for a faction.

(02:26:57):
To see her go from thinking about talking about it
and then making it manifest, it was just beautiful to
be to watch it, to know Melissa during that time
frame because I knew, I seen her, I know her
when she first talked about that and it was just
a thought, and to see it when it manifested. But
I was there to be able to be there at

(02:27:22):
the conference and to see it hit her that that
dream become a reality. It was it was just it
was just beautiful to see this. So that's that I
kind of set that question up because I knew, I
knew like what what it all meant, because I got
to see it all in the background and everything. But yeah,

(02:27:45):
but the little things, you know, meeting meeting Dubs, like
all those years ago, and when I first met Dubs,
I knew that we would be friends for life, you know,
and uh, you know, uh, I think the very first
ceremony that we hosted up there, Melissa had it was
only hawk at that time. I don't think. I don't

(02:28:06):
think I remember was even here yet, but Hawk was
just a baby, and she gave Hawk a stuffed animal
that was an alien stuffed animal that if you touch
his toe's eyes lit up. And they wore that thing
out for a long time, and finally the batteries finally
went out on it. But yeah, the little things that

(02:28:31):
lead up to it, you know, and yeah, man, it
just makes me think, like all the interactions, you know,
like looking back what I've said before, like Hindsight's twenty
twenty that, well, doesn't that mean that like if we
see that pattern, if everything like lines up in the
background like in our past, why can't we see that

(02:28:52):
pattern in the future. And like you can start to
see it. It takes a while to shift your perception,
but you can start to see that person option forward
and I think, uh, you know, I think that's what
she was touching on a little bit. But you know,
that's that's what I'm I'm working on now, and I'm
seeing it, you know more and more, you know, just

(02:29:14):
just with seeing the signs all the time, you know,
and even you know, speaking to bear Cross, you know
he's talking about you know, watch watch the signs all
the time, and the more and more I do watch
the signs and this is you know, quoting Melissa almost
verbatim what she said, just just watching the signs and
following you know, you know, source or the flow of

(02:29:36):
the universe. The more and more I do that that
the signs are all there, dude.

Speaker 1 (02:29:41):
Yeah, yeah, already. Man, I'm experiencing things from the outside
looking in. But I know exactly what you're talking about.
Coming back right now? All right, everybody, welcome back paints
Out Radio, the After Hours radio show. We're on the
back half of hour number three. We are on the
home stretch right here, would you making After Hours wrap up?
You want to thank our guests tonight again Melissa Kane

(02:30:03):
with contact medalities EXPO for coming in having an office
conversation tonight if you missed it, dubbing archive absolutely fre
YouTube dot com forbus Flash and Satout Radio. As we
get ready to jump into the last twenty minutes here, guys,
we're almost there. We're almost there as we get back
into the conversation. So you know, one thing we were
obviously you were elaborating over the break on some of

(02:30:26):
the experiences that you had, things you saw where you
were at the contact medalities expo, and you know, I
always appreciate and uh and I'm always impressed and always
like to uh, you know, kind of put in the
forefront individuals that that that you can consider putting together

(02:30:47):
an event like this is a selfless sort of thing.
I mean, it's for the right reasons. You know. She
saw where she could fit in to making a difference
in getting the conversation out there and make sure that
there was a place where, you know, all of these
different individuals could come deliver their message. And so she
plays just a big a part as in any speaker

(02:31:10):
that would show up there. So I always want to
plaud that and tell everybody out there, as we said
earlier tonight, like everyone has a part to play. It
could be very small, it could be which may seem small,
but was still at the end of the day, a
very big thing to do. And you don't even have
to leave your house to do it. But you know,

(02:31:31):
I implore everyone out there to find something to do.
If you haven't done anything, just think about what could
I do to kind of make this thing move forward
from where I am, you know, not having the ability
to travel across the United States and go to certain things.
What can you do from your home? What could you
do to make a difference from a right where you're at?

(02:31:52):
And you know, I think it's a really powerful thing.
And I would always love the platform individuals like herself
and other people who are showing that it, you know,
or putting effort out there into the world to make
U this thing happen.

Speaker 2 (02:32:07):
Yeah, no doubt. I mean she's the story of of
of her having you know, the download and you know,
the the balance of of preying on it but also
putting in the physical effort to manifest it. And you know,

(02:32:30):
I think that's it. That's an important thing to to
speak on in a manifestation. Manifestition is it someone wiggling
their nose like you know, the old uh bewitched thing
from back in the day. They wiggle their nose and
something pops. Doesn't work that way? Like the the division comes,
whether it become a dream or a download and meditation

(02:32:50):
or a plant medicine ceremony or whatever. She she touched
on all that, but you know, having and then having
enough faith and in that vision to actually be putting
forth physical energy to make it happen. And man, she

(02:33:12):
worked hard at like she really did. She She put
in a lot of hours and like I said, when
when it finally hit her, you know, seeing Chris and
Jimmy up on stage, they did a thing. It was
it was between two ferns, and it was every seat

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was taken, and I was standing in the back and
and uh watching watching it, and you know, just to
see her look at look at that, like every seat
in the room and everyone standing around the back, like
for your first conference. That's that's a huge thing, you know,
it's and she really went out on a limit on
a lot of things and to make it happen, and

(02:33:54):
it just goes to show like and she's reaching a
lot of people.

Speaker 3 (02:33:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:33:58):
That's you know, for whatever whatever your view is on
Chris or Jimmy or any any of the people they
are at the conferences, Like everybody has different viewpoints, you know,
back and forth whatever. But I can tell you there
was a lot of people that went there that had
like experiences afterwards, you know, of just just the vibe

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of being there.

Speaker 1 (02:34:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:34:22):
I did a few things there with pendulums. I had
a pendulum and a dowsing rod exercise where I did
the same thing that I did have done on here
where you put the pendulum in the dowsing rod over
an object, and the way you speak on it, you know,
move it back and forth, use that lighter. Did that
same thing in person there, you know, and people were

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just you know, really come out to me afterwards and
said that that that really like blew their mind, you know,
like that really opened up something in their mind. And
that's the whole point of like and uh, she even
spoke on you know, Melissa spoke on this in her interview,
you know, pointing out that this is one of the
this is a conduit too. But that's that's why I
you know, I spend three hours in this room back here,

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away from my family on the weekends doing this like it.
I'll get paid a dime for It's just for knowing
that being part any any part I can do of
being a condo at this point I need to do
because I know what's happening with me is pretty profound,
and pretty soon I probably won't have I won't probably

(02:35:28):
won't be doing these nightly things, probably within the next
year sometime, because I'm gonna have step into a different
role soon. But yeah, the couty is very important to
getting back to what I mentioned before the break about
the county. The reason that Couty is very important.

Speaker 6 (02:35:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:35:46):
And I've seen some of the comments there's people talking
about Heyoka spirits and stuff like that. Yes, certain tribes
and certain bands do consider the Cooty Spider and al.
They all have different meetings depending on what bands you
are or what beliefs you are. But the the Ghost
Nation in in Lakota, and this is like people that

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do you whippy ceremonies mostly and they've been they traced
them back and this is like their band are the
survivors from Wounded Knee, So like the the Masker at
Wounded Knee, they were there and this is some of
the survivors of it. So they're all it's like a
medicine band. But they believe that Coyote. And this is

(02:36:31):
a story that comes directly from Chief Bear Cross and
it was it was cited publicly on Aubrey Marcus podcast,
so it was it was nothing that's been said in
a secret you can you can hear it for yourself.
But he talks about the Kyote spirit and how his
teachings from his elders. They talk about the Kyote as
a savior for the planet. And the reason you hear

(02:36:55):
them howling at night is they're howling to the star
people and telling that and letting them know that this
rock is still occupied to not send a big stone.
So they say, whenever the couty stops howling, uh, the
star people won't know that this rock is still occupied
and they will send a big, big stone. And that
is pretty much a direct quote from what he stated

(02:37:20):
on this Opera Market podcast. So this that's he said.
Every uh, every animal has a certain job and everything
like that. And like I said, it can be different
depending on what tribe and even what band within the
tribe you you're you fall under or or believe in,
or or practice under. But yeah, the window at the

(02:37:44):
that means ghost nation in Lakota. They that is da
Coady is is howling to the star people.

Speaker 1 (02:37:55):
Wow. That that is awesome. I'm always dropping knowledge bombs
and and and to appreciate that perspective, you know what
I'm saying, because we always talk about how the Native
American perspective is definitely likely one we should be leaning
on when answering questions like what is consciousness and what
are we dealing with here? What's the actual reality that

(02:38:16):
we should be focused on here on this planet. So
it's always awesome to hear that from you and appreciate it. Now.
I wanted to get into this real quick before I
jump into the news, because there was people who wanted
to hear about three I at Lias. This is some
weird stuff going on. I know you wanted to talk
about that like last week, and I'm glad we waited

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a week sort of because it's finally visible again. And
let me read this quick story real quick. Astronomers have
found a mysterious new object flying between hostile alien threat
and Earth. The new object is right in between us
and three Eye outlets. So they found another object that's
they're calling a companion object. Another object been found flying

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between the potentially hostile comic three Eye Atlas and our
small planet. Like this year hasn't been eventful enough up
in space, there's more drama going on. Astronomers have recently
found yet another thing floating about and this too doesn't
have the tail for comet say that three times. According
to the experts, little thing is zooming between us and

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something that another scientist has worn could be an alien mothership.
Discovered back in July. Three eye Atlas was dubbed as
being a strange object Harvard Harvard professor Avi Lobe by
Harvard professor Rovi Lobe, who claimed that there was thirty
to forty percent scenario where it could be something other
than a naturally formed object. Since then, three Eyeatlys has

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continued on this erratic path deep in space, and we're
not going to find out if it's aliens.

Speaker 4 (02:39:51):
Not.

Speaker 1 (02:39:52):
For some time, Lobe shared it seems to be behaving
rather unusually as an approach to Sun, and he went
up one step forward by taking name it NASA over
their response to it. Low criticized NASA's apparent refusal not
to release a series of high resolution images captured of
three eye outlets in October by a camera on board
the Space Agency's Mars Reconnaissance orbiter. However, that's just because

(02:40:15):
of the US government shut down preventing them from being
able to do so. While we can't see the possible
alien mothership, we can see the mysterious new objects scientists
have named C twenty twenty five V one boresaw moving
between three eye outlasts and Earth with no tael. The
comment was found to be one hundred and five million

(02:40:37):
kilometers away from Earth, or a little under one astronomical unit,
which is about five and a half months away. Its
closest approach to Earth is thought to occur on the
eleventh of November twenty twenty five, which is in a
couple of days a few days here, when it passed
about one hundred and three million kilometers away from us,
which is safe distance away to see it in the sky.

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While only just recently cropped up in the space seeing
and scientists have confirmed that C twenty twenty five V
one Borsov originates within our own Solar system and most
likely came from the distant Orc Cloud. According to data
for jpo's small body database, CE twenty twenty five V
one Boresov, it's following a highly unusual orbit with an

(02:41:20):
eccentric se eccentricia, ecentricity of one point zero and the
inclination of one hundred and twelve degrees at present. This
means it's traveling along a steep elongated trajectory around the
Sun and will reach close point to the sun perry

(02:41:41):
helium on the November sixteenth. Now, if you want to
see it in the sky and just know that Boresaw's
light takes nearly six minutes to reach us, and the
comet rises at four one am, peaks at ten oh
one am, and settles at four three pm. See, if
you want to see it, you make sure you're there
on time and looking from under clear sky. So three three,

(02:42:02):
I Atlas has this companion object? What do you think
about it? Is this aliens? Is this companion object?

Speaker 7 (02:42:10):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:42:10):
What do you think about that? Just hearing that news
after all the other anomalies we've heard up to this point.

Speaker 2 (02:42:17):
Well a few things. One, this is the first I've
heard about it. Two who picks out those names? Three?
If this was a movie trailer, I would definitely watch
the movie.

Speaker 1 (02:42:32):
Because you probably should because you know, when we and
here's the thing, I Belo was going throughout this time,
and he hasn't went far. He's always stayed right at
dead line and said, Okay, it could be something weird.
Likely it's just something normal and natural. But but then
he says okay, and there's been three anomalies. Next you know,

(02:42:53):
a week goes by. Okay, there's a fourth anomaly that
just doesn't make sense about this thing. We're all the
way up to like the tenth and nominally tenth anomalist
action that this thing has done that is not normal
or natural when you compare it to other comments that
have come through our thing here. So it's like, okay,

(02:43:13):
at this point, NASA needs to release the images. Apparently
Kim Kardashian is trying to step in and help get
NASA to prompt them to go ahead and release the images.
I'm wondering why they just don't do it and kind
of just squashed the conversation. It's gonna be clear what
it is in that image, I'm sure, and they've been
saying behind the scenes, NASA has been saying, it's nothing

(02:43:36):
to worry about. It's just, you know, we hear all
this noise everyone's making about it, and from what we
have seen, it doesn't line up with any of that.
It appears to be a comment. Okay, well let's see
the images.

Speaker 2 (02:43:50):
Yeah, yeah, shout out to Kim Kardashian for her work
for humanity. But yeah, I don't know, man, Like it's uh,
I do know. There's a lot of stuff going on
right now. Like there's a lot of people praying in
the background, man, and there's like especially there's you know,

(02:44:11):
keep coming back to it, but the Native American community,
not just in uh. And if you're on my socials
and stuff, I posted some videos of some Brazilian elders
that are in our neighborhood right now. And yeah, everybody's
praying on on a large scale right now, and it's
it's very interesting to be, you know, on both sides

(02:44:31):
of it, you know, being you know, seeing the mainstream
and uh, seeing the chitter the chitter chatter on both
sides of it. And it's all talking about the same
thing of a big moment coming, and there's a lot
of people getting ready for it. And there's a lot
of a lot of a lot of magic happening that
I've been witnessing. I'm sure other people have. I know,

(02:44:53):
I know you touched on a little bit of just
weird things happening. It seems like we're coming to a
crescendo on it. And yeah, who so, who knows? Who
knows what these at their rocks, at their spaceships. Like
I said last weekend, regardless, they're opening up channels inside

(02:45:14):
people's brains and beings, regardless of what they are, because
they're opening up questions of possibilities.

Speaker 1 (02:45:22):
And let me go ahead and answer this here because
I know Anti Gangster was one that was asking about
this earlier. It is you know, seems that they're pushing
an agenda, you know, interstellar spaceship et cetera, et cetera.
And then also ask like who else buys what ovid
Willis says, And I said, you know, the thing is
is the thing to take away I think is that
we putting this aside. We already know we have other

(02:45:45):
things that are here in our sky now that are
here right at this moment that aren't from here. So
because of that, that allows us to take that next
step further and say, wow, this is a weird thing
coming in from deep space. And and you know, based
on the fact that we know these other things here,
we have to at least, you know, give this thing

(02:46:08):
space to flush out to be whatever it is. So
I don't know if they're necessarily I don't think there's
an agenda behind it at all. I just think it's
really responsible thinking, a responsible way to approach this knowing
that we have already this phenomena here we don't understand,
and then if this was any way related to it.
Five kilometers long. It should be something to be concerned

(02:46:31):
about until we know it's not. You know that it's
something natural, so it's definitely something you should keep on
your mind. No one's gonna know exactly what it is
until we see it and get, you know, physically see
what this thing is. NASA I think as far as
anybody probably knows more, obviously because they have the best photograph.
But the thing is is that you know, even with

(02:46:54):
that photograph, it's come back from around the sun now.
So now we're gonna be able to track it at
different stages at least through I think March of next year,
so we're gonna have other people who have opportunities to
see if what the data NASA releases is correct or not,
or if they're trying to run some sort of play.

(02:47:15):
I think we'll know for sure by March of next year.

Speaker 7 (02:47:19):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (02:47:20):
Last things I heard about it was it changed changed
speed and changed direction a little bit. And I know
there's some type of date coming up, which is two
weekends from now, which is what when I will be
setting again with Chief Bearcross. Will be two weekends again
from now I'm traveling to go meet him again, so

(02:47:44):
it's that weekend come up. But there's also it said
like it's current speed and approach and everything. If it
were to make an approach at Earth, it would come
around December, I think December twenty ninth or something like that,
which it's just ironic. It would be because you know,

(02:48:06):
nobody's going by calendars, you know, where there's there's only
a small group of humans that's actually going by you know,
a twelve month calendar.

Speaker 6 (02:48:16):
You know this.

Speaker 2 (02:48:17):
You know it's not a it's not a worldwide thing.
You know, the world don't eat. The world of humans
doesn't even agree on upon it, so so why would
anyone else. But it's just weird how things like line
up and dates line up and stuff like that. So
it says December twenty ninth, but it could change a
little bit and it could be New Year's and you

(02:48:39):
know what's everybody doing New Year's They let off fireworks,
So so it'd be like a grand arrival if it
did come like at you know, around New Year's uh
over New York City. You know, that would be like
an Independence Day type uh display it. It'd be crazy.

(02:48:59):
So who knows what we're in store for? Is it
is it connected consciousness. How is it? I don't know,
Like what's that look like?

Speaker 1 (02:49:09):
I don't know, But.

Speaker 2 (02:49:12):
Yeah, we're in We're in some amazing times. Regardless of
what Three Eye Atlas is or any parts or anything
that's a company in a we're in amazing times regardless.
I can guarantee you that facts facts, and we're gonna
have We should be having Sir Brian Bowden here for
tomorrow's conversation, So this is gonna come back up because

(02:49:33):
it definitely something that I want to get his perspective
on as well. So we'll be continuing Three Eye at
Let's talk tomorrow night, So make sure that you're here
for that.

Speaker 1 (02:49:43):
So because it's weird and and we just don't know
what it is, hopefully you know, the shutdown ends and
we uh NASA then is allowed to go ahead and
show us this photo because according to below, they should
be able to show it to us now. Uh, but
they're NASA is standing behind the shutdown saying that's the
reason they can't show us. I guess, what does one

(02:50:07):
have to do with that?

Speaker 2 (02:50:08):
That's ridiculous. What does one have to do with the other?
You know, that's that's that's just obvious.

Speaker 1 (02:50:12):
That's what makes that's what breeds conspiracy theories when you
do stuff like that. I mean, why would you just
not release the information? Forget to shut down has nothing
to do with the other. He even said, the person
that's working on this at NASA isn't even employed by NASA,
so you're not even affected by the shutdown. So they
should be able to release the information. So but we'll talk.

(02:50:35):
We'll talk more about this tomorrow. I do have a
last question for you, Drew bank you for I'll let
you go here. This is tomorrow. Man was asking will
Drew be attending contact modalities next year?

Speaker 2 (02:50:48):
I don't have any plans right now, so I don't
have any plans at the moment.

Speaker 1 (02:50:53):
All right, all right, well, we're gonna get ready to
shut this thing down. Appreciate you, Drew Banking With that
hours wrap up, all someo Molsta talk to you tomorrow, sir,
See you right back here, same time, same place. All right, man,
take care, guys, Drew Banky with the after hours wrap up,
we're getting ready to bring the ship on home right now.

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You know, once again, I want to take a step back.
I always like to think everybody that has come on
into the show, whether you're listening out there on radio
or if you're here in person Tonight Live. We do
appreciate everyone coming together because this is how we move
the needle, having these type of conversations, getting together, bumping
ideas off each other, because why because no one knows

(02:51:34):
the answers. And once again, you know, if you ever
come across someone that appears or comes across as if
they know the answers, then you probably should be going
the opposite direction, right, And I think we should really
be focusing on it, you know, I think the main
thing we should be focusing on is the fact that

(02:51:56):
we know these things are here. Right, leaning on some
historical cases where we know contact has occurred, going as
far as saying where they're from or what you know,
specifics that may not be pertinent to the current conversation,
I think we could leave out for later, right, Let's
focus on the fact that they're here. But once again,

(02:52:18):
I definitely want to thank Melissa Kane coming on and
with the Contact Modelities Expo being awesome, and we want
to thank Steve Stoctor tells and told mister person Mysteries.
We want to thank Drew Banky is always coming in
without ours wrap up. We love his perspective. We also
want to thank the man that you hear right there,
mister Ron Bumble Football, because he is the one that

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