Nov. 11/25 - Is Disclosure Dead with Stephen Bassett - Spaced Out Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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if you can find them on our website. We have
a giant name in the UFO world coming at us
tonight from the Paradigm Research Group. Steve Bassett will be
here momentarily to get into the world of disclosure. Are

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we close? Are we not? What is happening? Heat will know?
Then in our number three swamp dweller will join us
with another creepy story. Follow that up. Robin Haynes will
be here for the UFO report. Let's get right to it,
shall we. Stephen Bassett is one of the most recognized
political activists in the world of pushing for UFO and
extraterrestrial disclosure. As the founder and executive director of the

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Paradigm Research Group, Steve has spent decades working to end
government imposed truth at bargoes surrounding the UFO phenomena. Bassett
has organized multiple disclosure press conferences at the National Press
Club in Washington, d C. Briefing journalists, researchers, and political
leaders on evidence of extraterrestrial presence. His passionate advocacy, media appearances,

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and public testimony have helped move the ball forward from
the fringe into the mainstream, inspiring a new generation of
truth seekers. Through Paradigm Research Group, Steven has continued to
campaign for formal congressional hearings on UFOs and the experiences
of military and civilian witnesses. His ongoing mission is to

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hold governments accountable and push humanity toward open in contact
and transparency. Paradigm Research Group dot org is the website
Let's Bring them on in. My good friend, Stephen Bassett.
It is always a pleasure to have you on spaced
out radio, my friend, how are you, Dave?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I'm fine by the way that read you just put
out was that's way better than my bio. So like,
send me, send email that to me, please, I want
to use.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
That will definitely better. I will definitely email that to you.
You know, for our people who are tuning in maybe
for the first time, never heard of you. And there
are a few people, probably about seven in the United
States that have never heard of you, no offense, Just
seven out of the three hundred and forty million seven
have never heard of you. For those seven people, how

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did this journey begin for you?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, first of all, this couple of things, just a
couple things out of the way I read the room.
That's why I decided to wear my hat here, right.
And the other thing, Dave, is that you're you're leading
graphics are starting to get a little strange.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Have you noticed that my leading graphics?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, the leading graphics. You know, when the show just
really going and they do that graphic stuff, that cool stuff, right,
getting stranger each time I come on, A little stranger.
This is saying, right, and so uh and then the
last thing is this. I this is the first time
I've ever worn this hat on a podcast. And uh,
I don't know if the letters are right or wrong.
Let me just put it up there and you tell

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me if they're right or wrong. Can you read them? Whoops?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Let me take a look here. That job is top secret.
I don't know what something I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Even I don't know what I'm doing right, my job
is top this this is I think this says a lot.
I mean there's a lot of guys and girls over
there at the Pentagon and then the deep Legacy programs. Yeah,
because I got this on Team Move for like three bucks,
I should buy like a thousand of them and just
ship them over there and say, hey, here's the hat
for you guys. It's going to be it'll be great
where it's all come in and wear it one day.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I agree, man, I agree. You've tackled UFOs for the
better part of thirty years now, and yes, and you
have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly in
everything being an activist. Regarding this subject, what has life

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been like for you the last couple of decades trying
to bring formality to this subject life.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
What is this life you speak of? I'm not I'm
not really familiar with that. Is that involve stuff? I mean,
there are things that are supposed to happen or something.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
No.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I basically took a vow of you know, celevision and
everything else to serve this issue thirty years ago and
kind of entered it like it was a monastery and
gave up all desires for personal belongings and stuff and

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all that kind of unnecessary things and just pursued this issue.
It's kind of been like that, maybe a little exaggerated,
but this is not unusual for activists. Sometimes you literally
have to get everything else. Yet if you didn't have it,
you don't get it, and if you do have it,
you get rid of it. But you can't do this

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and still have a life. That's not always the case.
There are a lot of activists that are doing both,
and it's fine, and there's a lot of different types
of activists out there, but there are certain things, certain
issues that are so massive and so involved that if
you get in, that's it. That's all you do. So
this is all I've been doing for thirty years, and

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I've never been happier. I did a lot of different things.
In the first was it forty nine and wasn't so
happy much an accomplishment, But the problem was I was
seeking happiness or seeking something, you know, that the American
dream and all that kind of thing, And I realized

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it came to me slowly, but I realized that if
you really the shortest path to I think happiness and
reasonable satisfaction is to serve it. Serve. There's many ways
to do it, some are harder than others. But if
you decide I'm just going to serve other people, serve
an issue, something bigger than yourself, and devote to it,

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it's really pretty effective to pretty much make you feel
relatively good every day you get up. And I didn't
find that until I was forty nine and thirty years later.
And you know, it hasn't all been wonderful, but it's
never been in doubt, nor have I had any really
second thoughts. And I'm still committed to the issue and

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will be to the end. So that's kind of it.
It's just, you know, I don't I don't. I don't
know if this is how common, This isn't big issues,
but I think it is so I have a lot
of colleagues that have let more normal lives, and they
look at me a little funny. It's all right, it's okay,
But that's kind of been my path to serve and
I'm gonna that's all I'm going to do for the

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rest of my life.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
You have been one of the most passionate people about
this UFO subject. I don't believe you've ever seen one.
In fact, I believe you've told me you've never seen one.
But this is a subject that is very much at
the top of your heart. As you just said, the
way life goes sometimes is funny because a lot of

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times we, you know, as kids, we choose what we
want to be. I want to be a firefighter. I
want to be a doctor, I want to be a pilot,
whatever it may be. I'm pretty sure you didn't have
UFOs on your BINGO card when little Stevie Bassett was
running around the playground.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Oh no, Well, well, look I didn't run around the
playground much. I was a withdrawn kid, didn't really get
out a lot, study got good grades. That kind of kid.
Nobody knows what that's like anymore. But apparently you know,
we're a lot like that back then, and read and
I read science fiction. So I read lots of science

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fiction in my early teens as opposed to playing four
thousand hours of PlayStation or whatever, which creates a wholly
different person, no question about it, that a person that
maybe not hasn't been described yet on the evolutionary charts.
But and that science fiction was powerful. It was the
golden age in the fifties, golden age. Some of those

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stories are still being done now. Dick and Heinlenz stuff
is now being made into Netflix series and it holds up.
So that was always there, and then that naturally has
a little more interested in math and signs and stuff,
and so kind of go down that road. And because
I wasn't well, because I was engaged in those kinds

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of things, the UFO stories that turned up, the articles
and what have you, got my attention without questioning. And
then the movie started. I mean when I was the
first one, I think the very one of the very
first movies in big theaters was The Dailers still but
it might have there's one other, but it was about
fifty one, and so I was, uh, oh, what was
I I was like five, So there's a good chance

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I saw it like the next year, but it maybe
I didn't see it untill it was on TV. I
might I might have actually seen it on TV, maybe
a few years later, I don't, maybe saw it in
the theater. But that's one of the very first movies
I saw on this subject, and I liked it. And
then more came and I liked those, and so that
kind of takes you down that road, all right, But

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it was cool and I felt pretty comfortable that this
was actually real. But this was fiction. So in my
later teens, when I read articles like about the Betting
Barney Hill, I was quite comfortable with them. I'm thinking, yeah, yeah,
that's that's that was an abduction or whatever you want
to call it, and citing and so forth that I
heard about so and I took note, but it never

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occurred to me, oh, you need to make this your
life's work. No, so and that. I just went on
and studied, got physics, physics degree. But there was no jobs, frankly,
and I wasn't a particularly good friend of mine. And
it was like that late sixties, nineteen seventy and all
hell was and I was mostly in Washington, all hell

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was breaking loose. It was a weird time. It was sex, drugs,
and rock and roll, and again, because of my weird personality,
I managed to miss out on all three of them.
So you know, this is this is the making of
a weird disclosure activists many decades later. So I don't
have an easy answer for you, Dave, but the sum

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total of it all made it possible for me to
jump into the most important issue in the world in
history and actually have a role to play a part meaningful.
A lot of what's happening now is being taken over
by heavy duty people with lots of degrees and careers
and business and finance and government and what have you.

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They've moved in finally because some seventy some years of
research and effort by people that didn't have those kinds
of credentials a few did endlessly pursuing this issue is
set it up for them to do it. And that's fine,
but I'm a little concerned about that.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I work.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Well, let's put it this way. There's a change of
guard going on, and the question is what's happening to
what's going to happen to all the people that have
put their life into this issue, their heart and soul
in many cases a lot of the money. I don't know.
They're going to have to work hard to try to
stay in the game as we move into the post

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disclosure world. There's no easy way around that. Some are
just going to say, hey, you know, I did my part,
now I'm going to retire or whatever. I don't think
we're going to be seeing any awards from mainstream culture
once the big shots have taken over. But that's why
I'm big on us giving awards to ourselves to each other.

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That's why I had six conferences back in the aughts
and gave away thirty six some awards at six ward banquets,
which you know, and they were they were not trivial.
I mean, they were very carefully thought out. And I
still have a few back behind me that I wasn't
able to give out. But if I can hold another
ex conference next year, I'm going to dig up some

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relatives and hopefully present those awards in person to the
relatives of some very important people. So we're going to transition.
It's going to be awkward for somebody that's maybe in
the fifties that have really devoted decades to this. It
may be a little tougher than me because I'm almost eighty.

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So it's not like GI. I don't want to be
shoved aside and miss out on decades of you know work. No,
I'll be pretty happy. But I think I have a
shot at making some headway in the post disclosure world.
In fact, everybody in the field has a much better
chance than if disclosure had happened back in the eighties
or nineties. And the reason is the podcast revolution, the

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radio online revolution, you name it. It has changed everything
so that almost everybody who really wants to can be
on a camera and a microphone and talk about what
they're doing. They can even hold their own show and
so forth. And so the general public, the citizens, science research,
a citizen researcher, activist, journalists, witnesses and contactees never had

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a better opportunity to be able to tell their story
and get involved. So in that sense, it's a plus.
And so we'll see how it shakes out, and it's
going to shake out day because things are about the rock.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Steve. You have seen the disclosure movement change so much
from this being fringe media to fringe topics that were
only discussed at the hours between nine PM and four
thirty am to becoming mainstream headline news topics at times. Okay,
And you've also seen, as you mentioned, a shift in

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the paradigm of who is covering this from individual journalists
and activists and researchers and experiencers to mainstream scientists, university professors, astrophysicists,
government officials, three letter agencies everything above this. A lot

(16:33):
of people will say that it's gotten out of hand
with the amount of academia and the amount of government
officials and military officials who who have really taken over
the cornerstone of this subject and left the grassroots behind.
How do you like that movement, because realistically, it's only
happened in the last eight years.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Correct, most more has happened in the last eight years
than in the previous seventy. As far as things getting
out of hand, no, I think they're way in hand.
All the effort that everyone was doing all those years,
freedmen and the you know, uh oh God, going back
to Rupe health and and and all all the researchers

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that we know and love that have passed. Everything they
were doing was to get to the point where the
mainstream politicians and scientists and academics and mainstream media would
treat the issue appropriately right and not not bow to
either intentionally knowing what they were doing or simply because

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they just assumed that what they were being told by
the government was true, and not do that right. And
we've done it. We achieved it. It really broke eight
years ago. But there was progress over the years. I
can each decade I think was a little better than
the last, though there might have been a dip or
two in there, but the forties, fifty sixty, seventies, eighties

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pretty much advancing a little bit important ways, but the
government pretty much had control. And when the where the
government really probably should have known that the game was up.
The question was just a matter of time was given.
There had already been like sixty years, well, let's say

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fifty three years of citizen engagement on this issue, maybe
a thousand, two thousand books written, documentaries, thousands and tens
of thousands of sightings, organizations formed, and so forth. It
was totally employed fifty three years. And then towards the
end end of the twentieth century, along comes the Internet
and websites and email and the ability of people to

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communicate at warp speed. And then along comes social media,
which even intensified it even more with more and more
people engaging the issue on social media. And then comes
the podcast revolution, and that's game over basically, right, So
the idea that there's somehow contained, the idea came to
concept keep people from getting involved, create a ghetto around

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the entire intellectual ghetto around the entire Internet and all
the podcasts, so that anybody that brings it up, Ah,
you're laughing. No, So from that point forward, they were
in a losing game. It was just a matter of
when they were going to give up. And so that
starts the end of the twentieth century and starts picking
up speed, makes a reasonable progress, couple of major setbacks,

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and then in twenty seventeen kaboom totally expected, not surprising.
Who led the charge at that point we know their
names turned out to be well, particularly ten people, particularly
three or four of them were dominant and have remained
very much in front. It could have been another group.
It just happened to be them. They made history. They

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will go down in history.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Some people well don't like them, some do don't care.
They made history and have had lead the charge. And
then along the way, more people have joined in, and
so it's escalating very quickly. In the last eight years,
I have logged in ten thousand mainstream articles on this subject,
which is pretty good, except in the previous years, going

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back from then, I've only logged in about eight thousand
articles going back to forty seven. Now I understand if
you go back in time, it's a less access and
I can't link to them. But let's just say that
media coverage is off the charts, and so you've got that,
and so we have worked very hard to get to

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this point, and then the question is closing out the deal.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Right.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
It's like in football, five yard line, very tough, very difficult.
That's when the defense who want to win the Super Bowl,
they really tough enough. So those last five yards are difficult,
and they have been difficult in this case. But I'll
tell you as much as you want to know about
where we are right now and why we're right close
to a number of things, some good, some bad. But

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I'm telling you in the next sixty days there could
be historic I think they're going to be talking about
them for a long time.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Why do you think the next sixty days are going
to be important. We got three minutes to go before
the break.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, right, okay, I will give you the three minute
prologue to that. We've got major developments in the et
issue or in the political side. We have major developments
in the research side. We have significant developments in the Congress, right,

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and we also have very extraordinary standard political things about
to go boom. So I'm not just referring to the
UAP issue, disclosure issue. There's other stuff going on. A
lot of it's coming to a head. It's going to
go boom, and that's going to be part of why
this area, this era sixty days. Rather, he's going to

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be given a lot of scrutiny because there's can be
so much stuff to cover, so many interesting exotic things.
God knows where we're going to land it comes spring,
I don't know. It is also the possibility of another
war too, and the end of another war, and possibly
an escalation, and all of this is literally happening right now,
one of the and probably the most volatile political time

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in the history of the democracy. Though I don't know
much about the lead up to the Civil War, which
is pretty intense, but what I've read, well, the world's
more complicated now. So while it might have been intense,
the modern world and everything else makes what would have
been intense there five times more intense. And so this
we're just in it. I mean, we are in it,

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and we're barely able to keep up. Even the media
cannot keep up. It's an absolutely insane time in political
American political history, and nobody's quite sure where it's going
to land. But a lot of that's going to happen
in the next sixty days is that three minutes they
get it.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well, you did it in two, which is really nice,
Which is really nice.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
I got to talk slower, Dave. I've really got to
work on.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
That, Steve. I love your positivity over the years, because
for many people out there, this subject seems so bleak
and running around in circles that there is a I know,
you don't care about what kind of disclosure we get,
but there's a lot of people who are concerned about
a controlled disclosure, whether or not a catastrophic disclosure would

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be better for you know, this topic to come out
rather than the hidden secrets that the US government especially
does not want to give up on this. We're going
to get your comments on all of this and more
as we head off to break here at the bottom
of the hour. Here Steven Bassett, he is a legend

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in the UFO community. For more than thirty years, he
has been an activist at Washington, d C. Trying to
scramble up politicians, alphabet agencies, whoever he could to try
and get this UFO topic taken very very seriously on
the hill in the Capitol, and whoever would listen, he

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will talk to them, because, as you can hear right now,
he's a guy who just knows how to keep a
sentence going. Stevin Bassett, Paradigm Researchgroup dot org. This is
spaced out radio. We'll be right back everybody.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Legend means old.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
All right, We're clear. I got that in there too.
Legend means old. That's good.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
How many good mood tonight day? We're gonna have a
good time. Got so many things that I think your
your audiences does not know about. They can't know if
unless they're spending their life on social media and reading
any article that comes out, they can't. They can't know
about a lot of them. And so we're gonna tell them.
It's gonna be cool. My job is top secret. By

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the way and I and I don't know what I
knew what I was doing, Man, I'd have some bucks
in the bank's or a retirement phone, a car outside,
probably at least one mistress, and still doing all this shit.
But I'm not that skilled. I don't have a don't
have I don't have all the necessary skills to do
all of that, so I don't.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Well, you know what any car will do as long
as it runs.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
I believe that too. But eventually I got rid of
both both of my clunkers, which are killing me, driving
me crazy. You couldn't afford to fix them because I
understood where I lived, and you know where I was
operating DC and so in Burbank in California, I didn't
need a car. And then once I got rid of them,
you start, by necessity, you start mastering all the little tricks.

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You understand the metro link out in LA. Then you
get you understand the buses, get the senior passes like
thirty five cents right, And then in Washington we got
the best metro there is and buses and you and
then if in a in a pinch, you got Uber,
you got Lyft. I've gone three and a half years
without a car. I have not missed it. I have

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saved thousands of dollars. You know, I'm not going to
die in an accident unless some you know, some car
runs into my bus. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Have you. Have you driven in one of those driverless
cabs yet?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Not a chance in hell.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I'm When I was in San Francisco last year for
UFO con with with Lorian Fenton, I saw them for
the first time and I was like, there is no
fricking way that I am getting into a CA with
no driver.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, but you know you're a sensible reasonable By the way,
one of those just ran off of our cat that
was beloved in the community. He was like the cat
of this wonderful store and they just ran over it.
And hope they sued that company for like ten million.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
It's it's kind of like this. I get on a plane,
I have no control, and I know that. I also
know that the pilots are very, very skilled, all right,
and so if something happens, it's it's it's unfortunate and
it didn't I didn't cause it. Now you get in
a driverless car, all right, you're in the same rough

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situation in the sense that what happens, you're not going
to cause it, right, and so you're gonna die because
of that car. But to not even have a driver
and so you're gonna die because of a glitch and
the software, that frigging thing. That's not way. That is insane.
Plus it's just stupid. There's so much money that could

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be invested in making all cars incredibly safe. The driver
car is incredibly safe, I'm requiring it and so forth.
But no, we're going to spend billions upon billions of
dollars to have drivers cars because a bunch of manned
babies running these billion dollar companies just have to have
a toy and they'll make it and most of the

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money be wasted. Then put a lot of drivers out
of work. Yeah, that'll help. And the only way it'll
really reduce this, and it could would be if ninety
percent of the cars out there were driverless, we might
see the thirty thousand a year death toll come down.
But how long is that going to take? Meanwhile, we

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could we could make driving in this country much more
safer and cut that death toll in a half half
in much shorter time. So it's just more American stupidity.
What can I say?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
I like driving? I do. I love driving.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I like it. I like it. It's just that the
cost and the problem, the pains and the hassles and
everything doesn't And again, by the way, if I want
to experience driving, I go and rent a car, to
rent a car, drive across the country.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
True, And I'm still saving a ton of money. But
to have a car every day, I have to take
care of it, have to fix it, have to pay tickets,
have to garage it, have to park it.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I just want to I just wanted jets and smobile.
We're in twenty twenty five. Why do we not have
flying cars by now? That's what I want?

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Well, no, no, I'm sure we're gonna we're gonna have
flying cars and they're gonna be driverless flying cars.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Problem you get it, and.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
No pilot takes you out, and it's like, you know,
if it works, great, If it doesn't, nobody's gonna care.
And the only way that driving self driving cars will
be able to keep going, meaning they're going to keep
making more. The only way it's going to happen is
the government is going to have to pass one of
those laws that exempts the manufacturers of those cars from
lawsuits if one of them creates an accident.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I hear you there, Steve, hold on, hold on right there.
Thank you tonight to Kitty Katty, whack Aj and T
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(31:21):
Where are we going with disclosure? Is it moving forward?
Is it dying? There's a lot of people talking and
speculating on both sides, but the ever positive Steven says,
we're getting closer by the day. Steve, Welcome back to
spaced out Radio.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Ever positive, ever positive. Dave, no no, no down, no
upside to you know, uh, extreme pessimism.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Oh, your dry humor just makes me laugh, it does.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I know it does. Let's let's let me just give
you a quick survey just to just to give people
the bigger picture of what's what has led us to
right now, just for this year. Okay, let's just go
back to early in the year, very quickly, not a
big deal. The new president was about to be inaugurated
on the twentieth January, and then five days before his

(32:11):
son HAPs to have a very popular podcast millions of views,
I believe, partially because his father promotes it on his
You two channel. Right, And so yeah, it's five days
the inauguration. Who should I bring on as a guest?
How about Ross Colthart and Lewis Alazando talk about UAP
and stuff for a whole two hours. That was no accident. Okay,

(32:34):
get it all right, Yes, let's move forward in time,
and in May we had I think I think it
was May. We had a very substantial briefing and one
of the congressional briefing areas, but it wasn't under oath
and it was put on by the UAP Disclosure fun
had about six or seven witnesses testify. I had an
audiences live cast out. A lot of interesting things were said.

(32:58):
Just pick one reps and early Eric Burlison, who I
really like, who is really helping to lead this issue.
He's a very straightforward guy, very honest, very town to earth.
Didn't have now no pretense. He wants to ask something,
to ask it, and so he turns to Eric Davis
and he says, you know, I'd heard that there was
the different kinds of exitstials, maybe five or six different kinds.

(33:18):
And Eric, inside a congressional breathing area, briefing room one
of the rooms, just turns to him and says, Oh, yeah,
we got the grays, we got the reptiles, we got
the Thords or whatever the hell he called him, And
I'm going and this is going live, this is being broadclass.
I'd say, that's that's cool. Eric got a lot of
press on that one that was in me and then
later on in the year we had another hearing, all right,

(33:41):
a significant hearing with four witnesses, one of which is
George Knapp put a pin in that that was a
big deal. A lot of people don't know how big
a deal it was. Uh, we can go back to
that later, but there you move on. And then things
got really interesting. Okay, and understand, folks, I've been, I've been.
I've given and maybe fifteen sixteen hundred interviews since in

(34:03):
the last thirty years, and I doubt I have made
what I would call a clear partisan statement, maybe twice
by accident. Okay, I don't go partisan in this issue.
You know, get me drunk in a bar, you might
hear some interesting things, but I don't drink much either.
So just understand there's nothing partisan here. And so, in

(34:25):
rapid succession, here's what happened. JD. Vance goes on a
podcast called Ruthless and a couple of nice ladies and
having a good time. They're asking him. Before you know
he's talked about UFOs. Before you know it, he's talking
about the fact that he's obsessed with him, right, wow,
And he just happens to be the vice president. That's

(34:47):
never happened before. And so I'm going, whoa, what is
going on here? Was that an accident? It was like
he just felt like doing a podcast, and hey, I
let's talk about UFOs now. Vice President's not gonn to
talk about something like that, right, like going on and
talking about I know, you know, you know, weapons in space,
right just because he felt like it. No, So it

(35:10):
was only six or seven or eight days later another
podcast the name I don't have in front of me
right now, but who's there, well, just another the person
in the administration, the Director of National Intelligence since this
over all of the intelligence agencies, that would be Toulsa
Gabbert's Last Time My Talk, and she talks about the

(35:32):
subject UFO whatever ET's given her thoughts on it, generally
not knocking it down. Wasn't quite as strong as JD.
Vance's statement, but it was it was important, and I'm going, Okay,
what's going on here? I'm getting excited, all right? And
at my age, that's dangerous. Took his ANX. I was okay,
and I said, what's going to happen next? And it

(35:54):
wasn't but a couple of weeks when a third podcast
brought on a important person in the administration. It was
Anna Paulina Luna, who is key to this issue, chaired
one of the hearings. She's on the Oversight Committee and
the subcommittee, and she had been made the head of
the task force on declassifying federal secrets. And if you

(36:15):
don't think that's a very intense task force, it's going
to get a lot of attention, or from the get go,
well you're not paying attention. So she is a major player.
So she goes on a podcast. Let's see which one
wasn't Dave Scott's Space Dad.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
Wasn't Space?

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Oh? Rogan? If she wanted Rogan, right, I understand he's
a large audio and that was the podcast that her
boss went on that may have possibly got him elected.
And so she is on Rogan, millions of people watching,
millions more goan to watch later, and she gets into
the UFO, of course she does. She gets into what

(36:54):
she was doing in the Congress. She starts talking about
that she's seen document, she's talked to witnesses. She basically confirms.

Speaker 7 (37:01):
Again that there's there's non humans here, there's non human tech, right,
and then she, you know it starts really getting warmed
up and she starts speculating you know, I think they're
multi dimensional.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
This is a a Polina lu doing on Rogan It
goes out to millions. Okay, So I instantly concluded and
did about fifteen interviews putting forth this very simple statement
based on common sense. I have no inside to the
White House. Believe me. I couldn't get in there if

(37:34):
I wanted to, though it is two blocks from my office,
which where I'm at now. It's just two blocks over there.
If I were to go outside with a driver and
a ball, I could probably hit a ball into the
White House, you know, compound, which of course would not
be well received. But the point is that I am following,
and so I concluded this the idea of the extraterrestrial

(37:58):
presence being dealt with by the president is in play
in the White House. It's in play. Somebody wants to argue, fine,
go ahead. I don't care, right unless you've got another
explanation why a vice president, a Director of National Security,
and a key person in this issue in Congress is

(38:20):
going on podcasts and talking about it and then the
son of the President gets into it just before they
are coming. Come on, let's be fair, let's be reasonable.
So it's implay what does that mean. It means that
we have at least reached a point this year, which
I think is only becoming more defined as we move

(38:40):
close to the end of year in which and it's
not it's not I think, to the point where I
would like it to be, because I think there is
an optimal way to get this done. But it's acceptable
where the President of the United States could walk out
on the patio, sit down under one of those umbrellas

(39:01):
with a my tie and some reporters in front of them,
and say, I can confirm that what you've been hearing
is true. We have non human technology, we have programs investigating,
and there were non human pilots. And that is disclosure. Bame,
that's it. You didn't say anything else. That's disclosure Capital D.

(39:21):
The formal confirmation of a head of state of what
I believe is the extra trustrial presence. Within a week,
a number of other heads of state will have jumped
right in making similar statements. And it's the only question
of which governments get stuffed out first.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Steve, do you believe do you believe that other governments
of the world have been told to keep quiet on this?
Because this is a United states matter to announce the world.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, I know, I don't. I don't put it that way.
I you know. I mean, you can tell countries to
do things, uh more and more if you're if you're wise,
you will incur them to do things. It's called diplomacy.
But well, I've said many times this is all part
of the Truth in Bargo. But just what you said earlier,
it's all a part of the Truth in Bargo, which

(40:10):
is incredible. The story of the Truth Embargo is one
of the great stories of all time. If the MacArthur
Grant people would just hit me with a MacArthur Grant,
I would then use that money in my Hollywood contacts
and make the ultimate documentary about the whole damn Truth Embargo.
They got the ets, Yeah they're cool. But I'm talking
about how the government dealt with this issue and everything

(40:32):
that went on, which we don't know a lot because
the records are buried under some hotel in Las Vegas.
But the point is is that is that that's a
hell of a movie, all right. So anyway, no, and
I've repeated this many times. If I could write a book,
it would be in the first chapter. It's like in

(40:53):
nineteen forty seven, we got a crash vehicle. We might
have gotten around that time a crash vehicle from italy thirties,
but we know for sure we had a crash vehicle
in Roswell, and they put out a press release say
they had it. Boy, if that press release had never
gone out, let me tell you, things would have gone
very differently. So we oh Blanchard and Walter Hunt a

(41:16):
enormous appreciation for the fact that they just did what
seemed right to do, all right. And so at that
point the US government knew we had a craft vehicle,
and we had ets, we had one of them was
alive in telepathic which is another matter that went somewhere.
But the whole country was riddled with Russian spies, right,

(41:37):
you know, they knew about they knew about the Manhattan Project,
they probably had people in it, they knew about the
Trinity Test, all that stuff. And they found out, I'm
sure about the Roswell probably sooner than the press did,
and so right away that so knew that we had
a vehicle if they didn't already have their own, all right.
So that's all in play, and of course, very rapidly

(42:00):
simultaneous with this other interesting development. All the people that
were privy to the actions of nations, which is the
intelligence communities and the high level government, knew that missiles
were going to be built, bombs are going to be built,
and we were going to be facing a potential third
world or it would be nuclear. So, in other words,

(42:23):
a nuclear armswace was humming and it was inevitable and
we were going to have serious problems there. They knew
all that. But we had the first nuclear weapons. The
Russians had the second nuclear weapons. And so the Western
world is looking at us and going, Okay, you were
ke defeating the Nazis, You've got the early nukes, your

(42:43):
economy is going like crazy. You're the most powerful nation
in the world. Nobody on this planet is in a
better position to defend us against the inevitable Soviet threat.
It's coming, right, And so for their attitude is whatever
you want to President, whatever you want the United States,
we're with you. You don't want us to talk about this,

(43:04):
no problem, right, you don't want us to go there,
no problem. We are deferring this to you until such
time you feel it's appropriate. And that's why they have
stayed in line and nothing really has changed. Please don't.
I'm sure UK doesn't think for a second that that
modest little nuclear weapons program they have and a couple

(43:28):
of submarines whatever the hell, is going to save their assets.
Not all right, we are the only thing that prevents
grotesque actions against our wonderful allies, and so they have
not changed their mind yet. Okay, Now the other countries.
As I've stated, and again I haven't done major research,
this is mostly common sense. If someone has inside information,

(43:50):
write a book, I'll read it. But we quickly had
two major enemies, China and Soviet Union. China got the
nukes later, but they got them, and so why didn't
they disclose? They could have. It would have been cool
that had gotten a lot of credit. And the only
answer I can give is this. They were rigid ideological

(44:15):
control states very early on, stayed that way, and only
only things started to get a little loose, maybe as
you got into the nineties. The point is that there
were ideological control states. And how do you keep people
in mind by making them focus on the party, the
red book and the leader. And don't give us any grief, right,

(44:37):
stick to the concepts, stick to the basics. We'll be Okay,
you go wandering off in the wilderness or get weird.
We don't like that. And so the idea that the
Chinese people would learn in the fifties or the sixties
that my god, there's other civilizations out there. There's actually
entities from those civilizations here cruising around doing stuff that

(44:57):
the Chinese people can't do. It's not inducive to a
I ideological controlled state. China wet nuts over people practicing
filing gong. Somehow they thought that was going to bring
down the Chinese Communist Party. A lot of people went
to jail. Same thing with the Soviet Union. Stalin was
too busy, having seven thousand statues made of them. I

(45:19):
think he had the record. I think he still has
a record, six or seven thousand statues Stalin, you know,
and the party line, and so that the Russian people
were not going to find out about the et presidents,
not from the Soviet government. They want him to stay
in line, do your job, don't give us any crap.
And so you put all that together, and you've got

(45:41):
a global embargo in which the US is the lead
in a sense in terms of the amount of activity
going on and so forth. Because of Roswell, I guess.
And because we're a democratic republican people have a lot
of freedom, and we kind of led through these seventy years.
Other nations have kind of got in a little bit right.

(46:03):
Russia did a lot of research, a lot of research
in China. People weren't being harassed for doing that kind
of research as long as they did not get political right.
And the net result is, as of twenty twenty five,
no head of state has ever formally confirmed that there's

(46:23):
ETS here or there's non advanced non human technology here
to be politically correct, and there's craft, and we have
the craft, no head of state has done it. And
that because of that, the potential for this issue to
change and alter our world, advance things in many ways,
really present interesting opportunities, has not happened. It's all been

(46:46):
classified like so many other things. And the result of
that lie, which if it could have been maintained as
a absolute lie, meaning nobody knew, right they told you
this and you said, okay, but no, And there's stuff
like that. The government has plenty of things like that.
They are totally secret. If you ask them about it,

(47:07):
they'll lie, but you don't know what it is. And
so what no big deal. But the ETS, unfortunately pretty
much do what they want. And so as the years pass,
the ETS do what they want, the lie goes on,
and the whole thing is just not adding up, and
so it's becoming toxic, particularly in Western democracies like ours,
And so the pressure builds up as we move towards

(47:29):
a resolution of this, which is going to have to
be disclosure. All right. So that's my answer to that question.
Now let me get back to the fun things that
are going on. And so I talked about that and
the fact that right now we're a place where the
president could step out and it wouldn't be catastrophic. And

(47:50):
I'll take a sidebar here right as far as catastrophic disclosure, Look,
everybody's got a definition. I don't know which one works,
and I don't really care. But it's not a term
I use because it doesn't really it's not precise. For
some people, catastrophic disclosure is disclosure. Some people catastrophic disclosure

(48:14):
is dumping everything out and creating chaos. Some people think
catastrophic disclosure is another head of state does it? We're
sitting there with sloppy seconds, So what the hell is it.
What I will say is there is a way to
do this that's not irresponsible, and so we want responsible disclosure.
If we get that, we'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I think a lot of people are leaning towards catastrophic
disclosure Steve's we've got about five minutes here, which one,
because well, I think they just want all the doors open.
They want that UFO Pandora's box that's sitting inside the
Pentagon to be open. They don't want some sort of
skiff type controlled disclosure that deals with a potentially fall

(49:00):
threat narrative that everything is bad, we're doomed, and the
aliens are coming, and we've got the technology, but we're
not going to tell you what we have, where we
have it, what we've used on it, because you're just
basic humans. You don't need that stuff us military industrial
complex people do. I think they're tired of that.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Well, you say they're leaning towards it, what they're What
you're saying is is that people are worried about a
catastrophic disclosure. Now, some people are more than worried. They're
pretty convinced it's going to happen, and they type that
into their social media stuff and say it again since
the government says there's nothing here, why not? But I've

(49:42):
spent thirty years of this and so I'm not buying
into that. I don't think that's the problem all right now.
Are we going to get a false flag? I don't
think so. With dumping everything out wrong. Absolutely, is it
going to happen? I really don't think so. And so
most of that's what people are worried about. I do
not think is going to happen all right now. That

(50:03):
doesn't mean that people aren't using various scenarios. People that
are opposed to the truth, embargo managers of the truth
and bargo within government, skeptics outside that just hate the
idea we might get the truth one day, or they
just get a lot of eyeballs from playing the skeptic game.
Are not going to work with these things and what
have you? And then make it messy. That's the Internet's
social media. If you don't like MESSI throw your computer

(50:25):
out the window, move to a desert somewhere, get a tent,
and just stay there. So my job as an activist
is to kind of cut through all of this and
sort it out so it makes sense and people can
kind of stay cool, stay chilled, and so what is
likely to happen. Most likely to happen is what we've
been trying to do. There will be a major the

(50:47):
full bill, the full UAPI disclosure notice that term, that's
the term that they used, Disclosure Act will be passed.
It may or might have eminent domain that's not critical.
There may be a separate whistle plow protection law, No problem,
you can do that, amnesty whatever. Those will take place
when that act has passed. A process that has been

(51:12):
somewhat underway under the bill that was passed a couple
of years ago, sort of half a UAP Disclosure Act.
There's been stuff going over to the UAP archive at
the National Archives. There's stuff there. Nothing girths shaking, but
the chose you something is there. And so what will
happen with the full act is stuff starts coming through.

(51:33):
There will be a review panel. Right now, they're leaning
towards a review panel that is appointed by the Congress
and not the president. There's a lot of concern about
a presidential review panel. No problem, I don't care. The
review panel will decide goes, stays, goes back, whatever, But whatever,
the process will like a conveyor belt, will go on
for a number of years while everything comes out, and

(51:55):
of course the president will almost certainly have already disclosed.
In other words, the Disclosure Act is the idea that
that's going to get underway and stuff's going to come forward,
but the president is going to be sitting back going, well,
I'm waiting for something really cool to come out, and
then I'm gonna come out and say yeah, no, it's
like more likely that the president will disclose before that act. Well,

(52:18):
it's probably is likely that the president will disclose before
that act has passed, or will disclose not long after
it's passed, all right, and hopefully not begetting sloppy seconds
there meanings the act is about to pass, another head
of state jumps in and grabs the you know, the ring,
does a little dance on the stage and heads out
to get their Nobel prize. Sloppy seconds, you get nothing,

(52:41):
all right, And so that is what is going to happen.
It's orderly, it's responsible. The AEP Disclosure Act does it
in a reasonable way, and uh, the some stuff will
be held back for legitimate reasons, but under the act
has to be how would you say, cataloged and so forth,
if the act does the job. And so, if you're

(53:01):
thinking that they're going to drag a bunch of saucers
out and dead ets and scare the hell out of
other people, that's not going to happen. Chill. If you're
thinking we're going to probably get it over time and
an appropriate way, that's more likely. And by the way,
just because they're not prepared to bring any of the
saucers out or the crash vehicles for an analysis by

(53:23):
MIT students doesn't mean they will confirm they have them.
And so, trust me, once disclosure formal post disclosure gets underway,
there's going to be plenty to keep the world satisfied
with the process of revelation as it was. And so
we will then move into the post disclosure world in

(53:44):
a totally different place, I can assure you. And so,
but because of the truth and bargo, which won't confirm
because all of speculation technically has a place, and there's
all kinds of people willing to come forward and add
to that ayicking it up. Some are real, but you
can't prove it. It's crazy, it's not constructive. If you

(54:05):
did science this way, we'd still be living in caves.
But when it comes to something like this, well it's
not at the scientific method level. It's okay, and it's
not just science, it's almost basic forensics. The point is
that we're close to that happening, and that's what I
suggest will happen, and people should just chill and not

(54:28):
buy in to anything hysterical associated with this issue online.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Treat it is like a film. Treat it like a movie. Right,
give it a rating, give it a rating on IMPD,
but don't buy into it.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Steve Bassett from the Paradigm Research Group, we have for
another hour here on spaced Out Radio. We continue right
after this. This is spaced Out Radio with Hopes, Aim Scott.

(55:10):
All right, we are clear. We're going to take about
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Speaker 5 (59:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Thanks, You're about to get deep.

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from the Paradigm Research Group, longtime UFO advocate Steve Bassett
is with us tonight. We love him around here. He's
one of the best in the business when it comes
to knowing what is happening in the UFO world, and
he's blessing our airwaves tonight. Steven, thank you so much
for being here.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Thank you, Dave. Disclose your advocate. The UFOs don't need
any advocacy, right, They're fine, right, Disclosure needs the advocacy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Well, they may need some counseling after seeing what they're
seeing on this planet.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
I'm sure they have access to their own interdimensional counselors.
So okay. Look, in the first half, there are about
six lanes on the highway to disclosure right now, and
we covered one of those lanes in the first half,
and that was the lane about what's happening with the
Trunk administration and people very close to president and high

(01:03:30):
administration coming out and making these statements one after another.
That's a lane. Now we're going to talk to another lane. Now,
this one we're talking about a four month period starting
in early September, so we're just talking one hundred and
twenty days of which we're only about a little over
halfway through. So it starts early September. There's a hearing,
it's the third major hearing on this subject, chaired by

(01:03:56):
Luna Okay, backed up by Eric Burlison, and there were
five witnesses. I could do a whole show on that,
not going to do that, but there was one particular
witness that was extremely significant. I knew that not everybody did,
all right, I'm talking about George Knapp. George Napp is

(01:04:16):
a of all the professional journalists in the world, meaning
they have their professional journists that's their career. No professional journalists,
as part of their career as a journalist, has done
more investigation on this issue than George Nap forty years,
maybe more. No one, No one's close. There's some journalists

(01:04:38):
have done nothing but that, But there, but they're not
professional journalists. They're just kind of et or UFO journalists.
That's okay. But even then Nap okay. So he's got
this massive amount of information, he's always had it, and
it took only forty five years for him to finally
get in front of a congressional committee. There he was

(01:04:59):
and so, and why that's important is this Nap did
something extremely significant. Whether he understood that or not, I
think he did is that in his written statement, which
every one of the members of the committee witnesses made,
he refers to the Russian shutdown, Russian turn ons. All right, now,

(01:05:20):
there was a nuclear tampering stuff. And so he brought
it into play that way because that was set into
the congressional record. And then when he comes to be
in to testify, and was Luna that was I think,
questioning him before he testified. He's got to read it.
But before he could get to that part, Luna starts

(01:05:41):
engaging him in testimony, and I was really worried that
that would not get in play. The whole issue of
nuclear tampering is absolutely the most important issue in this field,
and he put it in play in his written statements.
She starts to interview him. There was a video and
so forth, but at some point it went to every
ear listen. And now I don't know if he got

(01:06:02):
the text, doesn't matter. I had his private phone and
so I texted him ask him about the news, and
he did. And so now he goes into a discussion
and brings up the nuclear shutdowns, which you're in the
US and the turndowns in Russia. And so, for the
first time in the history of the United States and

(01:06:24):
the world right, the matter of the shutdowns of nuclear
weapons was put in play under oath to a committee
of the United States Conference Congress, and it was by
George Knapp and then and so that that was absolutely essential,
particularly because a lot of effort has been has been

(01:06:47):
going on by a number of people, Tyler, Roberts, Danny
she and myself and others to finally get Robert Sallas
in front of a committee under oath. He is the
leader of the first hand witnesses, some of which have died,
but there's still some still alive. And of course he's
he's written three books. He helped with Hastings book, which

(01:07:10):
is the pre eminent book on new UFOs, and nukes,
and he should testify too, if that were possible. It'd
be a shame if he didn't. And so he can
bring in three or four witnesses that want to testify,
don't need to be persuaded to testify next week. And
we've been trying to do that. We got him a
meeting with Macey. He he had a meeting with Burlson

(01:07:32):
actually following that hearing. Actually, and so and I've I've
been on the hill putting information into the offices, so
every one of the subcommittees offices know about the new
witnesses led by Robert Sallas. Every one of the Intel
sent an Intel office has got information, lots of stuff, written, statements, video,

(01:07:54):
all kinds of stuff. You know, that's one thing I
can do, walk around, shove stuff under the door, whatever.
So they know, but they still weren't reaching out for
a number of reasons. We could go into that later.
The point is is that my number one immediate activist
goal is to get nuclear shutdown. Witness is in front
of a hearing under oath, an in hearing under oath,

(01:08:16):
because what they're going to testify to, which has been
completely established. The Department of Defense try to unravel that
by putting two ridiculously bogus articles in the Wall Street Journal.
I don't know what has happened to Wall Street Journal.
It must have been out the lunch that week or something,
and they were totally embarrassing and totally nonsensical, and it
didn't work. The point is is that that testimony is

(01:08:39):
probably the most important testimony you're going to hear in
front of a congressional committee. It is the nuclear shutdown,
the cricket. Can we get that testimony before they all die? Right?
And one of them is in very bad health, Robert though, man,
he's a trooper, and there's others. We want that testimony.
It is in play, and so that here, amongst other things,

(01:09:02):
advance it. That's early September, all right, And so as
we move forward, the UAP Disclosure Act comes up and
everybody's wondering what's going to happen. It's the third time around,
and it's in play during those months September October, and

(01:09:22):
it's important because just being in play, it generates news,
it generates awareness, It gets to congress involved. What are
you gonna do? What are you gonna do? And again
you go back even a few years, and the idea
of a UAP Disclosure Act floating around the Senate engaging
in a house insane never going to happen. It took
almost seventy five years to get there. And so where

(01:09:44):
that bill is now, just for your information, is that
my understanding from sources is that it's not going to
be submitted in the NDAA for any number of reasons.
As you know, the last couple of months politically in
the country right now, it's been a little bit traumatic,
and so they're not going to be able to get
it in. But there's a possibility that it will be

(01:10:06):
introduced in the House by Eric Burlson as a basically
a standalone bill. Right they tried to do this last year,
going to do it again, and what are its prospects,
I don't know, but I have heard that a significant
change may have been made in the bill that may

(01:10:27):
make it more palatable this time around, because the Presidential
Review Panel was a big problem for a lot of people,
including the politicians. You can imagine that, right, you know,
because which you know, whatever the president, whoever the president is,
there's a party that's not his party, and they're going
we don't want that president and so that he I
think the bill he's going to submit at some point,

(01:10:48):
assuming that happens. And again, you never be for sure.
You can only kind of try to follow this stuff
as best you can, and things change all the time.
Is it's going to include the panel will be a
congressionally a congressional assigned panel, and there was a house
in the Senate will pick the review board, which is
a lot more palatable, and so that's in play. Who
knows it could happen, right, So that that's going on

(01:11:10):
all right. So meanwhile, another conference has been put together.
It's quite extraordinary. It's going to take place in December,
right about the time this stuff is going on. And
I'm gonna take a few minutes here. It's called the
State of the World Forum, and it's going to be
It was going to be held at a very substantial

(01:11:32):
hotel in Washington, d C. Fifty some speakers coming in
from around the world, but the situation made it almost
impossible to do that, and so they decided that this
event would be online. And so the State of the
World Forum will be online from December fourteenth to December seventeenth. Available.

(01:11:54):
There is a beautiful website up still being tweaked a
little bit. Stayld dot form and you can go learn
all about it. Now, why is it important? This gets complicated,
But I'll do my best. There were six other State
of the World forums held back in the nineties, I

(01:12:16):
think from ninety five to two thousand, and they were
a very big deals. They were in San Francisco. They
had substantial audiences. I think one of them was charging
five thousand a ticket. Heads of state were attending, particularly
Matchale gorbitas Chough because he was key to setting up

(01:12:36):
the State of the World form, because he met Jim Garrison,
who was a very well known activist at that time,
and they made a decision that the end of the
Cold War, the collapse of the Soviet Union, was a
sea change, a paradigm shift of such potency that it
could literally affect what in a dramatic way, how things

(01:13:00):
might change in the future, how we could get out
of a mess we've been created and move in directions
that were going to be helpful to everybody, all countries,
all peoples. And so that's why they did the State
of the World form. They bring in all these people
to discuss all aspects of the State of the world
and then discuss where it needs to go next. And
so it was a big deal. And the reason a

(01:13:23):
lot of people don't know about it was before the internet,
so it's hard to find stuff on the internet. If
you look, you can find some things. But it was
a big deal. Five of them were in the West Coast,
one was in New York. And then guess what happened.
The promise of a new era evaporated as pretty much
the same old, same old people decided what we need

(01:13:45):
as a second Cold War, and that's exactly what they did.
And we also need some proxy wars and they did
that too, and so mutual assured destruction continued and the
essentially the arms race continued. They got of about seventy
thousand notes, but they didn't need them anyway. Then they
went to work on building better delivery systems and other stuff,

(01:14:07):
all making the risk of nuclear are much greater, to
the point where it's more risky than it's ever been
according to the bullets and atomic scientists, and so opportunity
was lost. But mister Garrison is aware of the et
issue quite well. He is knowledgeable that have been involved
in it. Mighail Gorbachev is gone and he understands, as

(01:14:30):
I've been saying for thirty years now, that the disclosure
event will be an even bigger paradigm shift, a worldview
changer than the collapse of the Soviet Union and the
fall of the Berlin Wall. It is an even bigger
opportunity for us to then reassess how we've been conducting
our affairs and make the necessary adjustments so that we

(01:14:53):
can continue as a civilization and spend trillions more dollars
on feeding, clothing, and housing people and giving them a life,
and trillions of dollars less on building unbelievably expensive defensive
systems that we have to have because at any moment
one nation is trying to destroy another. It's an opportunity,

(01:15:15):
and so he decides, let's have another series of six
State of the World forums, starting with this not this
online November fourteen to seventeen, and then they're going to
have six more in probably five different countries, maybe one
you know, again not online, maybe one of the US,
but also other countries as we hopefully take advantage of

(01:15:37):
what I believe is the paradigm shift the disclosure is
going to bring, which could happen in the next month
or two or tomorrow State of the World form. Now
fifty six presenters are going to be part of the panels.
There's a lot on that website, but the design of
it is unique and it couldn't have been done back

(01:15:58):
in the nineteen nineties, but it can be done now.
It's the four intelligences. They're going to present people addressing
four intelligences, but in the same panels, right, In other words,
they're representing these four groups for intelligence, but they're then
communicating with others in the other group. And what are

(01:16:19):
the four intelligences? It's pretty cool. One of them is
the extraterrestrial intelligence, no brainer, right, Another one is artificial intelligence,
which wasn't a thing back in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Another is human intelligence, all right, which, as it turns out,
is a lot more interesting than we have known because
of the we're about to enter the age of psionics
and then Earth intelligence, because our Earth, the entire living

(01:16:54):
world around us, is way more complicated and far smarter
than we know. So there's going to be people that
can speak to all of any one of these four.
They're going to communicate about this, and the idea is,
to the extent if we understand and integrate these intelligences
in a way that's constructive. We can move forward and

(01:17:16):
build a world that we could fall in love with. Right,
it isn't like it is now, and that's a pretty
big deal. Now, why am I bringing this up? Well,
by the way, just between you and me and your viewers,
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quite a bit off the price of this. But this
is coming up now. One of the people that's going
to be on that fifty six is Bob Sallas right

(01:17:59):
again talking about the nuclear issue, the shutdowns and so forth.
Say yeah, this is going right, and then there's going
to be another hearing there and he may be there.
So all of this is coming together very nicely. Now
to give you just a quick taste of the hearing,
just a few more people in the area of human intelligence, right,

(01:18:22):
we know that humans are able to do things with
their brains that supposedly they can't do, and we knew
about that a long time ago. Quick story when they
got to et at Roswell and any other ets. One
of the things they found out right away if they
were alive, is they were telepathic. So very quickly we
learned and a government learned that ets can telepathically communicate

(01:18:44):
with humans and read their minds, which means telepathy is
totally real, and so that meant they immediately had a
tremendous interest in finding out how it worked and the
implications of it, and they started creating these programs to
deal with what we now call psionics, anything that was
what would would call paranormal regarding the human brain. They

(01:19:07):
studied it, and these programs were deeply classified, and they
didn't start leaking out until decades and decades later. They
studied telepathy, they studied remote viewing, they studied psychokinesis and
some other things. They studied anything related to these what
we'll call not acknowledge or understood human brain capabilities. And

(01:19:29):
the principal reason they were doing it was to weaponize it,
which well, that's just what they do. And so now
eighty years later, so much has leaked out, so many
public so much public engagement, that these things are now
becoming part of the standard model of our world, and

(01:19:52):
telepathy is leading the way, and Diane Hennessy Pal's work
on telepathy is a breakthrough. She will be at that conference,
she will be part of the presentations and the panels,
and there's going to be others addressing it. So that
this gives you a sense of what's coming up there,
all right? So what else is going on at the

(01:20:16):
same time this is happening, Some major scientific things are developing,
and new groups are forming, new groups, substantive groups with
substantial backers and players doing very very mainstream, heavy duty
stuff performing as fast as I can contract. Let's take
one of them, Enigma Labs. It's not been out that long, right,

(01:20:38):
and what have they done in a short amount of time.
They created an app to bring in certain types of sightings,
got people using it, and in a very serious, sophisticated way,
they've been chronicling a lot of sightings, particularly sightings near
the coast. Net result that it's now coming out, the
work is coming out that they've chronicled nine thousand abnormal

(01:21:00):
underwater sightings off the coast of the United States nine thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Well, what do you think about it? What do you
think about Enigma Labs taking most of those cases from
Moufon's database.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
I don't know what cases they got from Moofon's database,
but they also have cases that are coming from their
app and they've put them together and thus created a thing.
So now there's a lot of coverage of that. If
they're not giving moof on the appropriate credit, that's that's
not good and they should do that. But the breaking
news now is we have this with substantial database of

(01:21:37):
nine thousand underwater objects that are not acting the way
they ought to. Now we know this is a real gala.
Deet has testified to underwater I mean unidentified some mer
objects and so forth. We know the ets go underwater,
we know that they're trans medium, but this is an
organization that's doing that. So that's kind of a big deal.

(01:21:59):
And then there is the work of Beatrice Villareal. Okay,
this is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
All right. Beatrice is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
What is she done? Well, first of all, she works
for the NARITA. Well, well, I can actually get this.
Hang on a second, let me just go get that.
It's worse. Come here here, I'm gonna get this right.
She is a scientist with the the Nordic Institute of

(01:22:30):
Theoretical Physics, which sounds pretty substantive in Sweden, which is
one of the countries that gives away the Nobel Prizes,
and in that, in that, within that entity, she created
a project called Vasco v a c O, which has
a cool name, vanishing and appairing sources during a century

(01:22:52):
of observation. So if for those that haven't heard about this,
it's not that complicated. She had the thought to go
back and start looking at the extremely well chronicled and
documented and archive astrophotography plates of the near Earth or

(01:23:18):
of the stars whatever, and go in deep and crawn
and look at them, I think twenty six hundred plates
and start seeing any changes that might occur between one
plate and the next time that same space was photographed.
And they did. They went even further. Anything they saw

(01:23:39):
that looked interesting, they then dated it. And so what
was eventually peer reviewed mentioned peer reviewed then I think
two peer reviews. There'll be more. Was this and this
is this is so elegant. Not all science is like
super complicated, like breakthroughs in nuclear physics or quantum mechanics

(01:24:00):
or whatever. Sometimes it's just doing something that's obvious and
incredibly significant. And so what they discovered is there thousands
of instances where something is up there and then a
short time later it's not, And then they chronicled these

(01:24:21):
instances and there was a very way above a normal
correlation between these things being there and not being there
right around when we're doing nuclear testing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Now hold that thought, Steve, because we do have to
go to break at the bottom of the hour. We're
going to get Steve going here in the next half hour,
and we're gonna ask him about Carl Nell. Yeah, his
disclosure dead big topic and spaced out radio. You're listening

(01:24:58):
space out with your hopes, Dave Scott. All right, we
are clear.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Let me I'll finish up with her and then we
can go to now and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Beatrice is doing amazing work. She really is.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Yeah, well I think she has a debt. They finished
shot out a Nobel prize.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
If it holds up right. I mean, it's not deep science,
but it's beautiful science, basically done. Nobody did it, it's
done it before.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Well, she's making sense of it. She's taking the bull
by the horns and making it happen.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
And how the US governments. It's coming from a major
Swedish Swedish Astress Physics operation. What is the government going
to say about that? It's getting peer reviewed and so
you know the truth and barble. People are just going
on crap every day gets worse and worse, right, and
it's and it's not fun. It's not fun anymore. That's
call call up the president, tell him get this over with.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Yeah, it's over man, we're done.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
We're tough, it's done. Let's get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Good crowd tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
What else did I want to get into?

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
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(01:27:09):
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(01:27:30):
are you planning on coming to the West coast again? Soon?

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
December the eighth, and I'll beat and I'll stay there
in La through the hell through the twentieth eighth, the twentieth.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Nice? What are you doing out here?

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
The Hollywood Disclosure Alliance is gott Are you in the
Hollywood Disclosure Alliance? Disure you are? We got that party?

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
I hope you can join us.

Speaker 8 (01:28:01):
Right, it'll be difficult, okay being up here?

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
What's up here again?

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
British Columbia.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
Oh, that's right, you're not in California. No, I need
to come to British Columbia. It's a fantastic place. It
is nice. Get get a get five hundred people to
pay twenty bucks to come to see me. I'll come
up there, give a speech, We'll make some money, and
then we'll party. It's some cool British pub or Canadian pub.
It'd be great. I can do two hours standing on

(01:28:32):
my head.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
You know that? No, I would never known. Uh, Julie Rios,
how are you hope you're having a good night? Got
ninety seconds? Mm hmm. Now I won't be down in

(01:29:03):
California until uh u A focn for Lori and Fenton.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
Have you ever come You've you've been to the citizen,
You've been to contact in the desert, right, never.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Never been invaded. I don't think I ever will be.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Well, I don't know why you've never been invited, but
I can change that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
No, it's okay, long story, all right whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
Well, remember it's under new ownership.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Now, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
Yeah, you could come down to a podcast from the
from the conference all your you have a lot of
American a lot of American audience is going to come
in and tell you how wonderful you are.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Hey, look, I don't know why anybody would leave Canada
come to the United States for any reason.

Speaker 9 (01:29:50):
I loved the US. I got nothing, but I love
the US. Okay, good, good, good, and you should come down.
Well party the Friar Eli, welcome to us. So our chat.

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Final time tonight, we say hello to a great guest,

(01:31:21):
great friend of this show, Steve Bassett from the Paradigm
Research Group, and he is pushing big time in Washington, DC.
For disclosure, you wanted to continue on with your previous
statement about Beatrice Villarola, European scientist who has written a
peer review paper about the UFO phenomena.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Uh yeah, because these are this is one of two
significant scientific developments. There's always these are turning up all
the time. Now the truth in Bargo can't stop it.
So essentially, they examined all of these plates and there
were just all these instances where something was there and
then the exact same location was photed again. It wasn't there.
It could have been passing by right. I think there

(01:32:03):
are cases where it was in a frame and then
it was in a second frame, and then it was
gone in the third one. Whatever. The work is pretty straightforward.
I think the peer review process.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Steve, you froze up on us. It's gonna take him out,
try and get him back in here. And maybe his
computer died. I don't know. He talks so fast that,
you know, you really have to, you know. I think
he wore out his microphone. That's what I think happened.

(01:32:39):
He wore out his microphone. We'll get it back here momentarily.
Do you agree with what Steve is saying though? While
we wait for Steve to come back, do you think
that government disclosure of the UFO wait is the way
to go? I don't know. You know, Sweet Robbie g

(01:33:03):
on our weekend show, he's a big catastrophic disclosure kind
of guy, he really is. He thinks that this is
about the public. He believes that this is about the
way it should go, because that way it gets everything
on hand. It's kind of like when you go all

(01:33:24):
in and poker okay, Like when you go all in
in poker, you have to show your cards. You can't
sit there and say I'm all in, get called and
then not show your cards on the table. It's not
the way it works. And that's what I think we

(01:33:46):
need to do with the disclosure movement. Let's put all
the cards on the table. If we don't put the
cards on the table, then we're not going to know
truly what is out there. As we bring Steve Bassett
back in here momentarily, Steve, do you have us here?

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
I do?

Speaker 9 (01:34:09):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
I have a My computer has a glitch. Sometimes it
just turns off. I'm still working out the it's a
new computer, but I'm still working that out. I will
eventually get it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
No worries. We got great audio from you, so we'll
continue as we No, no, no, no, I got it.
I'm almost there. Hang on, all right, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
Im on, oh hang on, oh oh, I see what happens.
It's all right. Gives me a second, not a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
This is live radio at its best.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
Here is it's essential that people see me. I'm so gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Hang on, well, Steve, you are a handsome man, So
we definitely do want to see you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
It's a curse. Okay, and then I gotta go here. Right,
but did you know there's no reason you should have
gone off. What's going on here? Technology?

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Yeah, you know I'm in the professional world. Something like
this happens. Somebody gets fired, true, true, Right, it's their
job if it's ruined.

Speaker 8 (01:35:17):
Okay, this is so you were talking about Beatrice Villeral.
Oh yeah, yeah, hang on, that's a big deal. This
is a really big deal. Again, this is the truth
in Bargo's worst nightmare. First of all, astrophysics group out
of Sweden, legitimate research, peer reviewed.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
Right, they can't get to her. She's in Sweden, she's
getting all over the world, she's getting all this covers
and everything, and essentially what she what it'll be determined.
She's confirmed is that there were objects.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
And he froze up again. We'll bring him back here.
Maybe they just maybe those in power don't want him
talking about Beatrice Villeral. There we go.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
I'm not am I froze up.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
We got you here, yes, we got you know, Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
Okay, I don't know what's going on all right? Look,
uh so this is huge, is irrefutable, right, It's not
like the asteroids kind of you know, an asteroid just
kind of decides, I think I'll stop here for a while,
just kind of check things out, then I'll move on. No,
that's it, right, Something other than us has put stuff
in the orbit and the fact that it corresponds with

(01:36:30):
nuclear test is just icing on the cake. And so
that's a Nobel prize. It's not deep deep science, but
it is brilliant science. It's clever, it's not been done,
and it's case closed. So she should get a Nobel prize.
And it's a Swedish institute, so god, you know, I
gotta give got to give her a Nobel prize. That's
the kind of stuff that's going down right now. And yes,

(01:36:52):
she will be at the State of the World Forum,
State of theoworldforum dot com. And so again, you want
to participate in this, text me or you know, dm me,
email whatever, and and I'll send you a code that
will get you quite a bit off on the on
the on the registration. Okay, So I'll take a break

(01:37:15):
and I will accept your question regarding a certain person forward.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Carl Nell, former retired Army colonel, basically says he believes
the UFO slash UAP disclosure cycle is dead. He stated
this on a podcast, basically saying that that it is
something that there's too much deep drama within Washington, d C.

(01:37:45):
And the Alphabet agencies along with the Secret Service, that
they really don't want to be pushing this subject. They
want it swept back under the carpet. And what do
you think about that? Do you think that it's too
much of the cat being out of the bank or
or do you think there is a major push right
now in DC to get disclosure out of the way.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
Well, first of all, I don't know if he used
the word Did he use the word dead? Do you
actually say dead? Right? I mean he said cycles right,
but he say did he actually say like the truth
and Barber was dead in the water or the disclosure
process pretty close to it? Okay? Two points one there,
you can have a cycle without whatever. And Colonel Nell

(01:38:33):
is a conservative man. His whole background and everything he's
done is going to be something that a conservative person
is going to to deal with. He's taking a conservative
view of this, which is about essentially what we'll call
it responsible disclosure, non catastrophic disclosure. And given his background

(01:38:55):
and so for brilliant he's putting out his thoughts on this.
It's not going to shock you that I don't have
that kind of background. I'm an activist and I have
a different view of it. And I'm also out here
very much in the public, very much on the Internet.
Most of the heigh ended, people that worked in deep
military or intelligence everything else, did not spend a lot

(01:39:16):
of time on TikTok or whatever. So I got a
sense of the public's feeling. And of course I follow
the media relentlessly, and so I'm gonna give you my
thoughts on this. Okay, first of all, I don't care
if anybody in any of the alphabet agencies think it's
moving too fast or they're not really ready. Don't care

(01:39:40):
one ioda. We're going to break the door down, period.
It's going to end, right. The fact that you would
prefer it didn't is hardly shocking because you've managed to
keep it that door lock for eighty years. And the
fact that maybe you know it's close, but you're a
little skittish about the politics right now, what's going on,
and you just for wait, well that's your preference, right,

(01:40:03):
We're all we're also dealing with all of the craziness
that's going on politically and overseas, and the and the
risk rising risk of nuclear war. We have to deal
with that too, and we want disclosure. I would say
it's much more likely that the people that put the
that what they call it anyway, they played the Wall

(01:40:25):
Street Journal and put those that got those articles in.
I don't think the writers or the journalists were culpable.
I think they just it was kind of an act
of desperation.

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
There are those inside that just uncomfortable and they just
don't want to face it. They don't want to have
to answer the questions. They just don't want to see
a post disclosure world. While they are either no longer
with the government anyway, they're down in Boker Bratone got
a boat, they've go out fishing at least twice a week,
or they're dead. They would just prefer that, Well, I'm sorry, Okay,

(01:40:55):
it's not going to be as bad as you think.
You're going to be helping to bring information out. You're
going to be hero in a way. We're going to
forgive all the other stemput of the hell you did.
It's not a problem. But to the extent that you
want to you want to project that you know, not now,
no way, Okay, we don't want to wait one more minute.
At this point we have I will say this, I'd
like to see the Disclosure Act pass. I'd like to

(01:41:18):
see at least one more hearing with the new witnesses.
That would be nice, and then a president can come
forward disclose. The United States will get to glory, the
president gets to glory, the other people help me get
disclosure as we begin the next year. I'd like it.
I think it's in the best interests of the country,
and that's what we're shooting for. We're not shooting for

(01:41:41):
starting undo the cycle. I can assure you. We're not
shooting for assuaging the anxieties of anybody inside the US
government dealing with the management of this embargo. That's done right.
They've had eighty years. They had a hell of a
good run, and now it's time to step up. And
again it will not be as bad as you think.

(01:42:04):
All right, it's going to be actually pretty cool. And
so again Carl is going to pursue this in his fashion.
He's involved, he's involved in major organizations, and he's going
to be a player in the post disclosure world without
question significant, probably maybe get a major position with the government.
Who knows, could be the disclosures are could be ahead

(01:42:25):
of on the review Paddel, And all I'm saying is
is I'm hoping it happens for him a lot sooner
than maybe he thinks.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
What about his part working with Daniel Sheian to try
and get the n da A going.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
Well, yeah, No, he's worked with Danny's, he's worked with others,
you know, the the uh God My Mind Soul Foundation
and so forth. Uh, he's been part working kind of
behind the scenes, and he's one of a number of
people with substantial credentials working behind this. A bunch of

(01:43:00):
them are going to turn up in the Age of Disclosure, right,
which I don't think. That's the other thread that I
really get to. Right, The Age of Disclosure is going
to premiere September twenty one, and that is a big deal.
Dan Farra has done something incredible. He's put together not now,
he's not the Tiger King or some documentary in which

(01:43:23):
every researcher in the country is going to go. I
had no idea. No, what you put together was a
sledgehammer of thirty four witnesses with pretty high rank and station,
pounding away on the fact that this is true and
making statements to support that over and over and over again.
It's going to premiere in Los Angeles, New York and
Washington DEDA in the twenty first same day, goes for

(01:43:44):
sale and rent on Amazon. It's going to fly out
the door, okay, and it's going to be generate god
knows how many articles, and it's going to play a
part in the next hearings. It is a game breaker.
I mean, this is a sledgehammer. I don't know how
the truth in Bargo is going to get around this,

(01:44:05):
but he gets better because we were getting more and
more support all the time. Bill ma used to be
a kind of a skeptic on this issue, but he's
come around, and why shouldn't he, okay, and so not
an accident. He brings Dan Farra, the director writer of
this film, been working on it for years, right, and
then this is a Hollywood production. By the way, I

(01:44:26):
have nothing against the UAP journalist, I mean documentarist. This
is the real deal, all right. And so Bill Maher
brings Dan Farra on Real Time with Bill Maher, which
is the highest viewed show on Netflix all right for
a ten minute front interview, and mar brings up the

(01:44:46):
nuclear shutdown stuff. He responds positively to it. Hello, all right,
that's part of the thread that I was talking about, Boom,
and so that's going to be seen millions of times
on Netflix as we lead into a film coming out
on the twenty first and anything in the State of
the World forum. But it gets better because that show

(01:45:08):
also then airs later on CNN typically has eight hundred
thousand to a million views on CNN. And then it
gets even better because there is an online after show
thing called overtime, and that goes up on the Real
Time YouTube channel right where it's going to be seen

(01:45:29):
millions of times. Some of the previous overtimes, if you
go on there at the real Real Time with Bill
Maher YouTube channel, they don't put the full shows up
that they pull clips and so forth. Some of those
clips have been seeing twenty five million times. And so
all of that is happening as we move towards the
premiere of the film and the other things that I

(01:45:50):
was talking about. This is an overwhelming situation that only
the very severe political situation is keeping from just exploding. Okay,
and I'll add this, and I'm just throwing this out.
I'm not James Carville. I can do an imitation of him,

(01:46:11):
but I'm not gonna do it. I'm not James Carvill.
I'm not advisor to presidents. But if you take these
two things and you kind of put him side by side,
you got this exposer process advancing fast, with developments coming
out every day, the public's fired up. And then you've
got this other political thing, which is good, it's a
little dicey, okay, it's gonna be tough. And you put

(01:46:33):
those two together, and in terms of the political thing,
I found the President of the United States, and I
were to walk out, you know, next week and confirm
the et presence or the non human presence and basically
confirming what you've been hearing from all these wonderful witnesses,
and execute the disclosure event to go down in history,

(01:46:54):
to be then supported by other heads of state who
will come forward say the same thing, and they got
their own goodies. I would suggests that that would be
a suberstantially mitigating thing in dealing with the more problematic
and political aspects they are also going on. I'm just saying,
and I'm just saying, right, it's a piece of advice

(01:47:15):
that I'm throwing out there for what it's worth. I
don't think any president ever previously and maybe ever going forward,
is ever going to be in a situation where they
had these two things of this level literally happening at
the same time, where acting on one could affect the other.

(01:47:37):
I mean, I just can't imagine this happening again. Right,
the two things are happening together because it took eighty
years to end this embargo, and our politics is on
a path that's taking it where's going, and so they've
they've crossed, They've crossed the streams. History has crossed the
streams here, and that's normally very bad. But in the movie,
as we know, it worked out okay.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
True, But are the actors going to be telling the
truth on this and doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
Well at this level again this look, Look, I understand
confidence and government has gone to hell and lying has
become a national sport. But at this level, when you're
dealing with things like this, you don't lie. And the
reason is it's so huge that it's going to be
examined and looked at by a billion people, and every

(01:48:29):
one of them has got the Internet account and they're
on social media and also journalists and everything. And so
it's one thing to tell a lie to your roommate
or your spouse, it's another thing to tell a lie
in front of like, you know, a billion people that
have the ability to fact check the hell out of it.
So no, no, Once we go in the disclosure zone,

(01:48:51):
we need to also get in the truth zone. And
anybody that's in government that doesn't get that is really
making a big mistake because the people are going to
be thrilled by this truth. It's going to elevate them
to a place they haven't been in a long time,
and they're going to be expecting nothing but the truth
going forward. And so what you want to be doing
is giving nothing but the truth. And everybody's going to

(01:49:13):
give you an applause, you're going to give you awards.
But if you decide it's time to go back to
lying again, they're can to crucify you, right, They're going
to cancel you.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
Your kids will be coming in and begging you to
move away, right, or if they just want to move away.
So it we're in a different place. We need to
get into the truth zone as well as the non
nuclear zone and another other zones, and all of this
may be possible very soon.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
Let's get to a couple audience questions here, So we
have four minutes here left with you today. Four minutes
all right, let's go to t bone. Are the fundamentalist
general buying general public buying into any disclosure that isn't demons?

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
Look, some religious people, particularly fairly strict fundamentalists, you know,
have a concern about a potential religious aspect that could
be negative. Overall, I think that's the lessening over time
as the evidence piles up and so forth. They're not demons,
And you know, the Pope just recently said that he
thinks it's very likely we have other life out there.

(01:50:17):
But that's just the beginning. He's only he's new. He'll
go further. So overall, it's not going to be a problem.
Not that it's not unreasonable bring it up. Not that
a deeply religious person should have a concern, But I'm
paying attention more than they are, and I can say
I wouldn't worry about this because they're not demons, right,

(01:50:40):
And they're not is danger not that dangerous. Frankly, humans
are far more dangerous than ET's so far.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
All right, let's move on. Let's go to PAULI here.
What is your opinion on the implications for the humankind
with objects like three I Atlas, whether it's alien or not.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put
my cards on the table here. I'm going all in.
Three I Atlas is a very interesting comment comment with
a different makeup because it comes from another solar system
which was built by a different accretion disc. The elements
are the same, but the distribution can change. Another solar system.
It's been traveling for millions of years, god knows, and

(01:51:21):
it's interesting and it's and it's gonna fly right through
and keep on going and we're gonna examine it. We're
gonna learn some cool things. However, it just happened to
show up while we're in the last days of the
Truth Embargo and the ET issue is on fire worldwide,
and so it's it's it's already generated several hundred articles, okay,
and it's going to generate more. And I assure you,

(01:51:44):
if we weren't in the middle at the end of
the Truth Embargo, and we hadn't had all these years
of increased interest worldwide on the ET issue, it would
have gotten a couple of articles. It would fly through
and be gone, and who gives a damn? Probably like umuah,
I wasn't that big a deal, right, same thing here,
only it's got a more interesting makeup. It's the ET

(01:52:06):
interest that's driving the massive public engagement and hundreds and
hundreds of articles. So it's actually a statement to the government, Look,
we're really interested in this ET thing, and we're pretty
excited about it, So why don't you come on board here?
You might find it'll go very well for you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
Let's sneak one more question in this one comes from paramire.
The government hearings thus far have been focused on craft
and military witnesses. In your opinion, why aren't they hearing
from abductees and or researchers other than George Knapp.

Speaker 3 (01:52:39):
Of course, it's a Hipple answer. All the hearings and
everything is not about getting out information finally, meaning oh
we're gonna have a hearing, get people this, and have
a hearing, get people that, And it's not about that
at all at all. The hearings and everything else you're
seeing is about responsible disclosure about doing the things that

(01:53:01):
need to precede a final confirmation from the head of state,
from the President, and so the witnesses need to support that,
they need to support this process. And so some areas
are not going to be helpful as others. And so
there are a number of witnesses that are not going
to get in front of a hearing under oath before disclosure,
but they will have their day after disclosure. And so

(01:53:24):
I fully expect that at some point post disclosure, you
will see some very well documented, eloquent maybe even written
books contact ees that will be able to talk to
the Congress under oath about their experience. That will be
a major breakthrough and a clear sign that we are
clearly in the new paradigm world. And then the only

(01:53:47):
new part of era, and the only thing that's left
really is open Contact, which I think is two years out,
and that's a whole other thing. I want to stay
alive for that. I guarantee you we get open disclosure.
At Open Contact, you're going to have to get a
bigger studio day, You're gonna have to get more software
or something, man, because your audience is going to be
very large.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
Steve I want to say a big thank you for
coming on spaced Out Radio once again. We have you
on a couple of times a year to discuss the
UFO subject very very much and everything that you do
for the subject is appreciated. Paradigm Research Group dot org
is the website. Coming up next, Swamp Dweller and Robin

(01:54:27):
Haynes will be here for the Cryptid q Anda. We'll
be right back. You're listening to spaced Out Radio with
your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
So basically I opened for the swamp dollar, right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
That's it. Yeah, yeah, well he's on here for about
five minutes.

Speaker 8 (01:55:02):
That's all good Steve, Thank you, buddy, Thank you, sir.
I always appreciate you. I'm going to bed, take care, bye.

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I'm good. God's glad to be here. And that's everybody
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Oh man, we're glad you're back. Christians, no offense. Good.
But he's not Robin Haynes.

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Speaker 12 (02:02:26):
Hello and welcome to spaced Out Radio Swamp. I'm swamp dweller,
and tonight I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unn sharing tales of monsters, legends and nightmares.

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
Welcome to the space Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 12 (02:02:42):
There have been three instances in my life where I
have felt like I was going to be abducted. I'm
a woman and I'm currently twenty three years old. I'm
also on the petite side, standing at a whopping five
foot three and weighing roughly around one hundred and fifteen pounds.
Because of this, I to wear heels or platform boots
so that I can appear taller than I actually am.

(02:03:05):
This story happened this spring while at a secondhand store.
I was looking to find a good side table style
cabinet and my boyfriend came with me. Because I have
already been nearly abducted twice in my life, I could
write about these in the future if you would like.
And I suffer from CPTSD in part of that, so
I'm not really able to go out in public by
myself unless I'm with someone going to class or going

(02:03:28):
to work. Lucky for me, my boyfriend is six foot three,
lean but muscular, has a very deep, intimidating voice, and
has absolutely no issues with taking physical action if I
needed it. But basically it's like having my own caring
personal bodyguard. For context, the area I live in is
bad for human trafficking. I live in northern Wisconsin, but

(02:03:51):
close to Minneapolis. The I ninety four runs basically straight
to Minneapolis from the Dells. I grew up in that
area and I know full well that the Dell's has
bad trafficking issues too, because of the high levels of
tourism in that area. Plus Baraboo, the next town over
from the Dells still has running cargo trains that are
rumored to be contributing to the trafficking, but that's not

(02:04:13):
entirely relevant. The town I currently live in is split
in half by the same interstate, and there's a walmart
right by the exit, also infamous for trafficking. There have
been many abductions of women in our town and various
locations all over, and it isn't a secret to anybody
that it's an issue for the area. Now with the story,

(02:04:35):
my boyfriend and I go to the next town over
to look for a cabinet styled side table because the
secondhand shops in our town don't sell furniture. We get
inside and look around a little bit before my boyfriend
says he needs to go to the bathroom. I keep
browsing nearby the bathrooms in a display area for desk dressers,
et cetera, and I find this neat ventage vanity with

(02:04:59):
hidden organized in the top of the desk, and I
start looking at it and checking out his little features.
While doing so, I feel eyes on me, so I
look around to see if I'm being watched by someone.
Sure Enough, in the row of desk behind me, there's
a middle aged man looking at me with no facial expressions.
I'm dressed in a skirt and knee socks and this

(02:05:21):
is one of my go to looks, so glaring at
creepy men eyeing me up isn't something new to me.
But since I'm alone now and don't want to anger
the guy, I give him the cliche midwestern half smile
and move up the row away from him.

Speaker 1 (02:05:34):
But towards the corner.

Speaker 12 (02:05:35):
Of the section, suddenly this guy practically runs to the
row I'm in, so I take a right and head
up towards where he was standing when I initially spotted him.
He picks up pace and I am now half running
trying to get away from him, and after a small
chase around the furniture, we end up in a situation
where I'm standing on one set of the row of
desk and he is standing on the other, waiting to

(02:05:57):
see which way I will go. At a standstill at
this moment, I try looking to my left towards the
other furniture and bathrooms to see if anyone is around
to witness this, and thank Gaya. My boyfriend is out
of the bathroom already walking towards us with a very
squared up posture. He looks livid and his eyes are
locked solidly onto this creep that was chasing me around

(02:06:18):
the furniture just a second ago. My boyfriend reaches my
side and puts his arm around my shoulder protectively, and
he and the creep make guye contact. They honestly both
looked equally angry. The guy doesn't say anything, just walks away.
For every few minutes or so, we see him looking
at us from a few miles away wherever we are
in the store, and I am anxious as hell at

(02:06:38):
this point and just went to leave. My boyfriend is
trying to do his best to reassure me and calm
me down and the best way he knows, but with
no avail. He eventually distracts me from the guy by
finding a perfect side table that I was looking for,
dark cherry wood, glass door shelves, beautiful and only thirty dollars,
not to mention a student discount.

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
We picked it up and to the checkout.

Speaker 12 (02:07:01):
The entire time I am paranoid and looking around to
see if this guy is near us. He is currently
being checked out at the register and we are being
separated by two other customers. My anxiety spikes again, but
I try not to let it show. When he is done,
he walks through the first set of doors to exit,
but is still in the first entrance of the store,
just standing there.

Speaker 1 (02:07:19):
He looks at me.

Speaker 12 (02:07:20):
We make eye contact a few times while I'm in line,
and then check me out. I make it a point
to stand on the right side of my boyfriend, carrying
my new find out and holding eye contact with the
creep the whole time we exit and get to the car.
He doesn't say or do anything. He didn't follow us.
He just stared at me, and we get to the
car safely, although I am still paranoid and trying to

(02:07:41):
get the side table in the car and secured as
fast as possible, which is just making me fumble more.
But regardless, we left safe and made it home.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (02:07:50):
I can't say for certain that this man was trying
to abduct me let alone if he was working with
human traffickers, but I highly doubt he was chasing and
stalking me around the store with pure intentions.

Speaker 1 (02:08:01):
Thank you swamp Dweller for another creepy story. If you
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you want. And with that, it's time for the Cryptid
Q and A. Here's Robin Haines.

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Speaker 1 (02:08:50):
Robin Haynes is returning after being ill last week. But
we're glad that you're feeling much better. Robin. Thank you
for coming on in.

Speaker 4 (02:09:00):
Yeah, I missed you, guys.

Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
It is always so much fun, so much fun having
you here.

Speaker 13 (02:09:08):
It's not a good Tuesday if I don't make it
over to spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
Oh absolutely, absolutely so get this. Here's a fun little
story for you. So each and every night I do
a radio hit on WPHT twelve ten in Philadelphia, one

(02:09:32):
of the largest talk radio stations on the East Coast. Okay,
and Walter M. Sterling, the host who I talk with
weird stuff each and every night, he was asking me
about I don't know how we gonna. Oh. We got
on the topic because I said I was wearing a
hat and then I was tipping my cap to him

(02:09:53):
that night and this was earlier tonight, and he goes, well,
what's team is on your hat? I said, well, it's
actually a hat with the Texas flag on it. He goes,
where did you get that? So I told him. I said,
I was on my way to the Nebraska Bigfoot Conference
and I have to stop at Dallas Fort Worth. So

(02:10:13):
I saw this hat. I decided I need a new hat,
and this one felt really comfy, so I bought it.
And so, long story short, he's like, are you going
back to that Nebraska conference? I said yes. He goes,
when is it? I said, the last weekend of April.
He goes, well, tell you what. He goes when we

(02:10:33):
lead up about a month before that conference. When we
lead up to it, he goes, I want you to
be mentioning that conference so that way we can maybe
get some of our listeners that had to Nebraska.

Speaker 4 (02:10:44):
Oh that's great.

Speaker 1 (02:10:46):
Yeah, I thought I would like that.

Speaker 13 (02:10:47):
May you tell him thank you so much for me?
I will, Oh, yeah, we have such a good time.

Speaker 4 (02:10:53):
I'm really excited. We've got your friend that's going to
join us, now, can we say absolutely Farla Ventura is Yes,
I'm really excited. I've got to talk to her yet.

Speaker 13 (02:11:05):
It's been so uber crazy that I haven't talked to
her yet, but I'm.

Speaker 4 (02:11:09):
Really excited about it.

Speaker 13 (02:11:11):
I've got to get hold of her because I need
a photo of her and a byou so we can
get it up on the internet. So yeah, we're really
thrilled to have her. Excellent, and so it's going to
be fun. I'm working on some plans for it now.
So I'm really excited.

Speaker 1 (02:11:27):
Excellent, Yeah, I can. I cannot wait to get there.
I really cannot.

Speaker 13 (02:11:33):
Wait to get We love it when you're there. We
have so much fun with you there. And of course
we have to go to the Mexican restaurant. Yes, Mexican
restaurant is outstanding. And Taco Bell and Tackle Bell, Yes,
and the shuttle drivers were very good about getting you
to Taco Bell.

Speaker 4 (02:11:51):
The moment you stepped off the plane.

Speaker 1 (02:11:52):
I heard it was God bless them, God bless them.

Speaker 4 (02:11:56):
Weren't great.

Speaker 13 (02:11:57):
Yes, we had so much fun at that hotel and
they were just tremendous. And the gentleman that you know
as the concier that managed the place, he's like, Robin,
all you have to do, I don't care what time
it is, is tell me when any of your people
want to shuttle, and we will make sure we have
a shuttle for them anytime, day or night. And I
mean they just went above and beyond. I could not
have been happier. The year before, we thought, you know,

(02:12:20):
we had this really nice hotel and it looked all
the part and everything on paper looked great, and we
were just so unsatisfied. So we were very very happy
this year. It's it's the Ramata, but it's a very
large Ramata. I mean, it's got the pool, the hot tubb,
it's got a little miniature golf course in it, you know,
and it's got that restaurant and bar in it.

Speaker 4 (02:12:40):
So it just worked out. Really, it couldn't have been better.

Speaker 1 (02:12:42):
I would agree with you. I would totally agree with you.

Speaker 13 (02:12:46):
Yeah, I think we'll be using them from here on out,
you know. And they were so accomedy, Oh my goodness, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:12:53):
They were. It was so much fun. I can't wait
to get back and see you and hang out with Varla.

Speaker 4 (02:13:00):
And I know it's going to be so fun. I know,
we are so excited.

Speaker 13 (02:13:06):
Now, how is everybody holding up with this giant shift
from last week? Like animals, cryptids, people, everybody's kind of
going crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:13:16):
Well, I'm doing fine. I mean, you know one thing
that I have noticed this year more than anything, is
people are a lot more down and depressed this year.
It seems like people that you don't know.

Speaker 13 (02:13:31):
Yeah, there's a lot of things that are coming up
that are going to brighten everybody's day.

Speaker 4 (02:13:35):
It's going to take a little bit, but it's coming.

Speaker 13 (02:13:37):
But that energy shift going through, and I know I
harp on this a lot, but it's it's the reality
of it. And because there's such a contrast in that
frequency opposed to the third dimensional frequency that we're used to,
it's really triggering people. And just like the cryptids, you know,
they're more emotional because they are a higher frequency.

Speaker 4 (02:13:57):
As this shift comes.

Speaker 13 (02:13:58):
Through, and it has been the biggest one we've had
was last week, but it took I mean you could
feel the build up and it's still going back down
and we've got more on the way, and so all
your emotions are ton times more intense than they were before.

Speaker 4 (02:14:12):
That comes from the higher frequency. So people are depressed.

Speaker 13 (02:14:18):
And then five minutes later they may be giddy, they're angry,
they're sad, they're crying, their sleep patterns are off or
they're sleeping, and then they're exhausted, they're lethargic.

Speaker 4 (02:14:30):
They just are no ambition.

Speaker 13 (02:14:32):
To do anything like on me because I'm so ultrasensitive
to that stuff. It feels like when I'm walking my
body's made out of concrete. Food preferences are all crazy
right now. You know, the water, extra water and protein help,
but it's still you know, the food I want, things
that I don't even like, and the things I normally

(02:14:52):
want to eat all the time I have no desire for.

Speaker 1 (02:14:57):
I can tell you this. My town is is in
rough ape right now. It's in rough shape. We just
found out last week that when I moved up here
there we're a logging community, and there were three mills.
Notice the past tense were there were three meals now

(02:15:19):
and then about six seven years ago, two of the
mills closed, and then last week we found out the
third mill is closing.

Speaker 4 (02:15:31):
Oh no, yeah, so dob lost alone.

Speaker 1 (02:15:35):
It was a there's one hundred and sixty five people
who are going to lose their jobs directly, including one
of our listeners and somebody you guys have seen on
spaced Out Radio goes by timber Hunter. We mentioned him
on the show Mark Spender. He's losing his I'm so
sorry and and but it's the ramifications around that as well,

(02:15:59):
because of so many subsidiary loggers and logging companies and
truck drivers and and everything. Yeah, you know, so.

Speaker 4 (02:16:09):
It's going to suck a huge community.

Speaker 1 (02:16:11):
Yeah, it's the community is after January is really going
to feel a big push. It's just another another slap
in the face.

Speaker 5 (02:16:22):
Man.

Speaker 13 (02:16:23):
Yeah, I'll be praying for everybody. I think the good
stuff that we got coming we can't get soon enough.
But with the good is going to come a little
bit of the bad because when it gets good, everybody's
frequency goes up because they're happy. But that's when the
stuff from the dark side with the lower frequencies try

(02:16:44):
to come in because they it's not good for them
to be around anything with a higher frequency.

Speaker 4 (02:16:49):
But it will be worth it, So, you know what,
It's been really good. A lot of people are getting
a lot of contact.

Speaker 13 (02:17:02):
From cryptids right now. They seem to be loud and proud.
You know, a lot of activity. A lot of my
contacts are amazed of the amount of mind speak they're getting,
the actual contact that they're getting. I mean, it's so far,
it's been really good. I'm anxious to get out to Texas.

(02:17:24):
I mean, I've got more work going on out there
so I can. I'm hoping to be finally moved here
very shortly. I want before Christmas. But they actually are
really active, and the ones I've got out there are
even more so. So, Like I said, all my contacts
are thrilled. Nobody's being aggressive, nobody's throwing a fit. You know,

(02:17:47):
they're all trying to get food together for winter obviously.
But it's going good. It's been busy, been very busy.

Speaker 1 (02:17:56):
What happens at this time of the year to the cryptids.
Do they look into hibernating much like bears do.

Speaker 4 (02:18:03):
Absolutely not. They are not hibernating.

Speaker 13 (02:18:06):
They will be whether they're in caves, underground tunnels, or
what have you that they've used, Like in Michigan when
it would get all snow and icy, all those abandoned
farmhouses that you see out in the middle of like
two hundred acres of land. They would use those for
shelter this time of year. Across the board they are
getting extra food putting it away. You know, they'll get

(02:18:28):
the deer, they'll gut, they'll take out the internal organs
and they'll stack them. You know, they have raided the
farmer's fields for produce, so they've got that stuck, you know,
putting caves or tunnels or wherever. You know, they're held
up at and they are getting ready for winter. People
think that because it's winter, they're not. You know, they're hibriding.

(02:18:48):
Absolutely not. I had just as much activity. Might never
slowed down in the winter, but they don't. When you
talk to them, they will tell you we're not animals.
We don't hibernate. We don't mind great we don't hibernate.
We're living our lives. That's what we do. The ones
that I have contact with have never slowed down. You know,

(02:19:10):
you will notice that because food is more scarce that
they hunt in the winter time because of the weather.
They will follow them. Like when you go to Colorado,
they follow the Alcreds. They'll go to Pike's Peak because
the Alcurds move that way. So they will send hunters
from their clan, and those members that are for that

(02:19:33):
hunting party will go after the food and they'll bring
it back while the rest of.

Speaker 4 (02:19:37):
Them stay there at home. Yeah, they don't migrate.

Speaker 13 (02:19:40):
We have a couple of them that I know of.
And there are some that if it gets too cold,
you know, just like we have some people that are like,
I'm not going to stay in this cold temperatures, I'm
going to go to Florida for a couple months. They
may do that. That's not a migration. It's not a
migration anymore than it is for us. It's just they
don't like the cold. But for the most part, they
stay put.

Speaker 1 (02:20:00):
Do they go underground? Do they go in caves?

Speaker 13 (02:20:03):
Yeah, they'll go in the caves. They'll get underground tunnels,
you know, a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (02:20:07):
I've had.

Speaker 13 (02:20:08):
The one house that I lived at was really a
lot of sand in it, and they literally during the
summertime they dug tunnels underground.

Speaker 4 (02:20:17):
They had a mark. They had sticks that they would take.

Speaker 13 (02:20:21):
On the bottom of the stick and they would take
a rock or whatever and they'd make it somewhat pointy
or whatever, but they would put it in the ground
and it would mark and underneath of it there were tunnels,
you know, and they would go under there. Some of
the ones in Texas that I work with, there was
a really bad storm when I was out there and

(02:20:41):
there's tornadoes and I was like, I got to get
you know. The house wasn't up yet, so I was like,
I got to get out of here. So I was
going to go back to the hotel. And they're like, no, no, no,
come to the cave.

Speaker 4 (02:20:50):
Come to the cave.

Speaker 13 (02:20:50):
And I'm like, you don't have a cave, and they said, oh, yes,
we do.

Speaker 4 (02:20:55):
Come to the cave. It's not safe. I kept saying,
I'm going to the hotel, which I did do. But
there's a tornado. It knocked a tree right down in
front of the road. I almost hit. It was a mess.

Speaker 13 (02:21:03):
I should have listened to them. But they had dug
out underground tunnels there because there was no cave system
where they were.

Speaker 1 (02:21:14):
Do they use they used to stay warmed. Are they
using the fur of their of their.

Speaker 13 (02:21:21):
Yeah, they will take fur off the deer or if
they've killed a bear or whatever animal they've killed.

Speaker 4 (02:21:27):
If it's a big enough piece of fur, they will
use it.

Speaker 13 (02:21:29):
There's been several photographed with it draped around their shoulders,
you know, and pulled around to keep them warm.

Speaker 4 (02:21:36):
But you know it, and.

Speaker 13 (02:21:38):
There's a lot of controversy on this, so I don't
want to ruffle anybody's feathers. But certain clans will use fire,
and they will get the older wood because it smokes
less and it's less likely to be noticed. But they
will use fire. There were several in Michigan that did.
We had a bondfire pit in the backyard and they
would go there and they literally get fire started.

Speaker 4 (02:21:58):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:22:00):
Questions and question coming from go ahead.

Speaker 4 (02:22:05):
No, go ahead. I can't see it.

Speaker 3 (02:22:07):
You'll have to read it, Robin.

Speaker 1 (02:22:10):
This comes from Beno. Do some of the Sasquatch or
cryptids go back into another dimension or go back on
a spacecraft? During winter?

Speaker 13 (02:22:20):
They can go into other dimensions. They will go through
the portals to go if they want to go someplace
warmer or you know that type of thing. I don't
think they spend at They do go on different planes,
like we have some that talk about going to you know,
visit with Jesus on different planes and various things. They
will take the portals to go to different dimensions. Absolutely

(02:22:42):
as far as you know the space crafts, I've only
seen them get on a craft once, and there are
several reports from credible people that have seen them getting
on and off of crafts. Do I think that they
do because it's winter, Absolutely not. They may do that

(02:23:03):
for other reasons, but they're not doing it because the
weather got too cold.

Speaker 4 (02:23:06):
They primarily live here on Earth, but they are multidimensionals
and they will go wherever they choose to go.

Speaker 13 (02:23:15):
Now for them to go through those portals, go to
the other dimensions. Those are higher frequencies in there, and
it's healthier for them.

Speaker 4 (02:23:21):
There's no germs, there's no parasites because it's so high.

Speaker 13 (02:23:25):
The frequency is so high it kills ad all off
frequency heels.

Speaker 4 (02:23:29):
Okay, it returns the cells to a pure level.

Speaker 13 (02:23:33):
So when they go into the portals, when they go
into the different dimensions, those are all high frequencies and
you don't have the illnesses there. A lot of them
during the COVID outbreak, because they are three percent human
on the mother's side, they.

Speaker 4 (02:23:46):
Are susceptible to COVID and I did a lot.

Speaker 13 (02:23:48):
Of healing on them during that time and a lot
of them did not get COVID because they spent more
time in the portals and in the dimensions.

Speaker 1 (02:23:59):
We have about fifty seconds you go before we have
to go to break at the bottom of the hour.
Robin Haynes comes in weekly for the Cryptid Q and
A and we love it when she is here. And
she also helps put together the Nebraska Bigfoot Conference in
Grand Grand Island, Nebraska. We love it. I'll be going
back there for our third year in a row. This

(02:24:21):
coming in April. April cannot come fast enough. We'll be
right back with Robin right after this. This is spaced
out radio and your host name Scott. I can feel

(02:24:52):
it's starting to turn winter up here.

Speaker 13 (02:24:55):
Oh it's getting bad here because there was snow in
South Carolina the other day.

Speaker 1 (02:25:00):
Oh that's just terrible, right because my hands are starting
to get dry and my feet are starting to get dry.

Speaker 13 (02:25:06):
That's awful now, you know, it's amazing. And I used
to get a lot of these reports about ten years ago.
People you know, they have corn fields or bean fields
or whatever you know, type of vegetable. They would go out,
especially the corn fields, and the sasquatch would be out
in the middle of their corn fields and of course

(02:25:27):
they can't see them because the stocks are so high,
and the sasquatch are crunched down.

Speaker 4 (02:25:31):
And I don't know that the.

Speaker 13 (02:25:32):
Dogmen do it as much as the sasquatch do because
they're more carnivore. But the sasquatch they go out in
the middle of these corn fields where nobody can notice it,
and they pick corn, and they take the corn, and
they really will stockpile any of these vegetables that they
can get up.

Speaker 4 (02:25:49):
Anything that they can use to eat later.

Speaker 13 (02:25:51):
They will be stack piling this and they'll grab it,
you know, at any time, so they've got it to
get through the winter, because the the meat sources, you know,
are the main thing, and they tend to be a
little bit harder to achieve.

Speaker 4 (02:26:03):
In the winter.

Speaker 13 (02:26:04):
We would find him getting a lot of rabbits in
the winter. There was a couple of times my boys
when they were outside found headless rabbits and the rabbits
were still warm, and it kind of freaked him out.
And they would come to the house and my one
son said, Mom, Mom, there's a headless rabbit back there,
and it's still warm, like whatever killed it just ripped
the head off of it. So I went walking back

(02:26:25):
there and all you saw were these gigantic footprints and
the rabbit was gone. So he must have been in
the bushes when my son went back there, because it
was the body was still warm.

Speaker 1 (02:26:36):
Yeah. I was out in the forest cruising around today.

Speaker 4 (02:26:42):
Well I saw some great cruising photos of you with
your son. That very impressive work.

Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
Yeah, I put that on our social media.

Speaker 4 (02:26:49):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:26:51):
I loved it. We had a great time with him.

Speaker 4 (02:26:54):
God, that was wonderful.

Speaker 1 (02:26:57):
I thought it was.

Speaker 4 (02:27:00):
My buddy loved it.

Speaker 1 (02:27:01):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah it was. It was so much fun. Yeah,
we have a good time with that, we do.

Speaker 4 (02:27:10):
I think that's great.

Speaker 2 (02:27:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:27:13):
But I was out cruising today and in one of
my hunting areas that I go, and I'm just like, no,
I'm just not feeling it in this area. I thought
I might. I thought I might, but I really wasn't
feeling it.

Speaker 2 (02:27:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:27:29):
It's just kind of like, well, I don't think they're here.

Speaker 13 (02:27:33):
Yeah, there's a ton of deer this year, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (02:27:39):
I mean just astounding.

Speaker 13 (02:27:41):
Like even on my road the other night, I was
coming back home and it was dark out and there
was like eight or nine of these huge massive bucks,
I mean huge rack on these things all in one spot,
like I don't know what was going on. I've never
seen that many bucks in one time, one place, and
they are like jumping out in front of the.

Speaker 4 (02:28:02):
Car and everything. It was crazy. But I've seen more
deer this year than I have in previous years.

Speaker 1 (02:28:08):
Yeah, they have been around here, they are, they are
right now. They just started their rut. So we can't
hunt deer for ten days, ten fifteen days, oh wow, yeah,

(02:28:28):
because they start their rut.

Speaker 13 (02:28:31):
Yeah, I think our season, well I know Michigan season
if I remember correctly, and I could be wrong, I
think it's right around the fourteenth of November fourteenth or fifteenth.
I don't pay attention to here in the South because
they don't go by the rules anyway. But yeah, it's crazy.
It'll get going pretty soon. But yeah, the deer were
moving all over the place right now in large quantities.

(02:28:53):
So I heard the sasquatch outside screaming the other night.
I thought, well, they're probably out there looking for the deer.

Speaker 4 (02:29:02):
They call me because we've got just a ton of
deer over here. Yeah, but we're supposed to have a
pretty severe winter.

Speaker 13 (02:29:10):
They seem to be from what I've been able to
figure out and what people that I have, my contacts
that interact with them, there must be a really bad
winter coming because they're storing more food than they normally do.
I mean like they are literally going through every nook
and cranny and they seem to be a little bit

(02:29:30):
more nervous about it. Like normally they always get into
my pet food and that kind of thing, and I
you know, that's it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (02:29:38):
They take a lot of outside cat.

Speaker 13 (02:29:40):
Food, that kind of thing, and but in wintertime it
picks up, they take a little bit more than they
normally do. This is the first year in a very
long time like they literally will wipe out my pet food.
I mean, it's crazy the amount that they've taken. And
usually the only time they do that is if they're
really worried that the food's going to be scarce.

Speaker 1 (02:30:02):
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(02:31:21):
Haynes for the Cryptid Q and a hanging on out
with us, and Robin thank you for being here. There
was a comment in the chat room when you were
talking earlier about you know, Sasquatch at other cryptids betting
down for the winter. Many people that I have heard
say sasquatch has the ability to start fire to keep warm.

(02:31:42):
You would think with all of that, all of that fur,
that they would be staying warm.

Speaker 13 (02:31:50):
Not really, Okay, a lot of people don't realize, but
they don't actually have fur. They have hair. They have hair,
just like we have hair. They do not have an
animal fur, not the dog man, not the sasquatch, not
the cat people or the goatmen. They have actual hair.

(02:32:11):
Hair is not insulated like a fur doz so where
you know, just like on your head, it might be
a little bit warmer because you have hair like I
have thick hair, so it keeps my head a little
bit warmer.

Speaker 4 (02:32:22):
It's not going to be enough against the elements.

Speaker 13 (02:32:24):
And you are absolutely correct that they will use animal
skins to do so, but they also used fire. Now
it depends on that particular clan if that leader will
allow it.

Speaker 4 (02:32:39):
Or if they, you know, will veto it.

Speaker 13 (02:32:42):
If it's something that's allowed that it will absolutely make fire.

Speaker 4 (02:32:47):
You know.

Speaker 13 (02:32:47):
I know certain groups that prefer their meat be cooked,
and others that the leader of that clan does not
permit it. They don't know how to do it. I
had a female that had lived in Florida. She moved
to Michigan because she was going to stay with one
of the males that were in the clan that I
was working with. And so first winter in Michigan and

(02:33:10):
she's freezing she's literally freezing. And she said something to
me and I'm like, well, why didn't he make you fire?

Speaker 4 (02:33:16):
And she says, we don't make fire. I said, yes,
they do. Here, they do.

Speaker 13 (02:33:20):
So I got hold of them and he's like, she
can make fire, and I said, she doesn't know how.
You know, she didn't know how to do it because
the particular group didn't. It wasn't necessary. They were in Florida,
even when it was cold, it was bearable for them,
and I said, you have to show our house, so
he did. But what I did learn from them is
that they try to find the oldest logs that they

(02:33:42):
can find, because they said they smoke glass, so you know,
that's pretty much how they do it. They'll do it
in cave systems the farther back they go, you know,
anything that they can do to disguise that, whether they
wait and they do it at night, you know, when
it's dark out so that maybe nobody will notice it

(02:34:03):
varies depending on the individual, but they will use it
if necessary, the ones that are allowed to, but they're
more than capable of it.

Speaker 1 (02:34:11):
What do you mean by allowed to?

Speaker 13 (02:34:14):
The clan leader decides what they do. Are they allowed
to use paranormal abilities are they not? Are they allowed
to use fire?

Speaker 4 (02:34:21):
Are they not?

Speaker 13 (02:34:23):
The leader decides what that particular clan or group will.

Speaker 4 (02:34:27):
Be allowed to do.

Speaker 1 (02:34:30):
I never knew that.

Speaker 4 (02:34:32):
Yeah, it determines it.

Speaker 13 (02:34:34):
And it's like, and I mentioned this before, there's the
laws that go across all the clans, which are like
our federal law, like the United States here goes by
our federal law. But then you have the state laws,
and each state has their own set of laws.

Speaker 4 (02:34:50):
So with them, the federal law is what goes across
of the board.

Speaker 13 (02:34:55):
You know, like they're not allowed to kill a human
unless a human is trying to kill them and it's
in self defense.

Speaker 4 (02:34:59):
They're not allow to interfere in our world.

Speaker 13 (02:35:01):
We're not allowed to interfere in news. Those are some
of just a couple of the laws that go across
the board. But then their personal laws go by clan.
Are they allowed to use paranormal abilities or are they
only allowed to be telepathic? Are they allowed to be
telepathic in Cloak? That could be another clan. So it's
determined by the elders, by the you know, the leader

(02:35:24):
of that clan as to what they are allowed to do.

Speaker 4 (02:35:28):
And the thing about that. That's so crazy is the kids.
They're all born with these abilities, all of them.

Speaker 13 (02:35:34):
But if the kids are not taught by the adults,
they don't even know they have them. Like how many
of our children know they're telepathic, because all of us are.
You just have to learn how to access them, and
it's not hard.

Speaker 4 (02:35:46):
But if you.

Speaker 13 (02:35:46):
Don't know that you can do this, why would you
even consider it?

Speaker 4 (02:35:50):
Why would you even know about it? If nobody's told
you true, it's the same for them.

Speaker 1 (02:35:57):
I guess that would be a good point. One other thing, though,
I was looking on a big foot site recently, and
I'm curious to get your opinion, Okay, okay, because one
of the things that many people who don't understand nature,
and I'm saying this as someone who is still learning.

(02:36:18):
Every time I go out in the forest a lot,
and there is still an incredible amount of information that
I haven't learned yet. And I'm not afraid to admit that.

Speaker 4 (02:36:31):
One of the things that it's a constant learning experience.

Speaker 1 (02:36:35):
But one of the things I learned was that squirrels
and chipmunks will take mushrooms and berries and they will
place them on branches or poles, or fences to dehydrate
them in the sun.

Speaker 4 (02:36:54):
Oh wow, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (02:36:56):
Yeah. And and the reason why I bring this up,
I just learned this a couple of years ago. But
in this bigfoot group, this lady was walking in an area.
As she was telling the stories, she took pictures of
these mushrooms sitting on top of a road guard, a

(02:37:21):
road gate. Okay, that's blocked off to traffic, and she's here.
She is going off about how sasquatch left her presence
for coming into the area. Now I'm all for that.
I've had it happen myself. But to me, it's kind

(02:37:42):
of like everything's a ghost on the paranormal shows. Everything's
an alien that's flying in the sky.

Speaker 3 (02:37:49):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (02:37:53):
We have to, in my opinion, be able to realize
what is nature and what is them. Now I realized
that part of nature. But you have to learn nature
before you start throwing out something that is allegedly significant
when realistically it's squirrels or chipmunks. Yes, who are doing this?

Speaker 4 (02:38:15):
Yeah, not everything is a big foot.

Speaker 13 (02:38:16):
Not everything is a dogma, And there are other things
that do it as well. Absolutely, I agree completely, But
you know, it's so funny you had said about the
dehydrating on the branch, and I never knew that. Like
I said, everything is a learning experience. If anybody tells
you they're an expert on any of this, run for cover,
because there are no experts.

Speaker 4 (02:38:36):
We're all learning.

Speaker 13 (02:38:38):
The whole part of being around the cryptids is its lessons.
It's one lesson after another after another. You get over
one and you got another one, and it doesn't stop.
It really doesn't. And I had and this made me
think of it when you said the branches they didn't
dehydrate anything, but.

Speaker 4 (02:38:56):
What they did do.

Speaker 13 (02:38:58):
I had put apples out for them every day for
a few years, and I would.

Speaker 4 (02:39:03):
Take buy apples.

Speaker 13 (02:39:04):
I would put them in the crevices where the branches
would veer off and why off or whatever, and I
would set the apples in that for them. And because
when I first put the bag out, they didn't want
to touch the bag, so I put it in the
trees like that. And I knew some of the squirrels
would get them in the rabbits and or not rabbits,
I'm sorry, but raccoons or possums.

Speaker 4 (02:39:26):
Or whatever you know.

Speaker 13 (02:39:27):
And it was like, if they want it, they can
have it, but they're not going to leave giant footprints
on the ground. And I would put sand all around
the base of the tree so it was easier to
get a footprint. And I did this for a very
long time, and it got really pricey because of all
the apples they were going through. They'd go through a
fifty pound bag of apples like you would buy for
deer in a couple of days, and then they got

(02:39:49):
to where they just carry off the bag. But I
happened to go to the back of my property and
I'd never noticed before there were apple trees there, and
I'm like, you guys are connartists, Like you've got fresh
apples back here. I'm not buying apples anymore. I'll buy
something else, which I did. So the next day I
went out there and as I walked by those apple trees,
there was not one apple on those trees. And the

(02:40:11):
day before it was loaded, I walked up towards the
front where I used to put the apples in the trees.

Speaker 4 (02:40:17):
They had placed all those apples from.

Speaker 13 (02:40:20):
Those back trees in the branches, in the same trees,
in the same manner that I had done for two
years for them. And on the ground all around these
trees were these gigantic footprints, and I thought, you know what,
for anybody that thinks that you guys are not intelligent,
they need to check this out, because they literally stripped

(02:40:42):
those trees back there of any apples and they put
it in the crevice of every branch on those trees.
I couldn't even reach if some of them were so high,
but there was giant footprints all around the bottom.

Speaker 1 (02:40:55):
Man, that's just scary. Scary.

Speaker 13 (02:40:58):
I mean, they problems, but it was funny because I
was like, I'm not buying any more apples.

Speaker 4 (02:41:02):
I'll get you something else. But you know, you've got.

Speaker 13 (02:41:04):
Apples, and so they put them in the tree where
I put them for them. But yeah, I agree with
you because we have to be realistic. Now, granted, we're
being realistic in a paranormal field, but at the same time.

Speaker 4 (02:41:21):
We're not. I mean, even the people that say they're researchers.

Speaker 13 (02:41:24):
Unless you're out there and you're getting scientific evidence and
you're taking measurements and you're doing all these sanctionarily researching,
you're experiencing.

Speaker 4 (02:41:32):
You're experiencing what's going on around you.

Speaker 13 (02:41:34):
So you go out there and you have to look
at the overall picture. Is this done in a way
that a raccoon can do it? Can a squirrel do it?
Can a possum do it? And look at other avenues
rather than just assume it's them. Now, once you learn
how to read energy signatures, it's much easier because you
can look at it and see is that an energy

(02:41:54):
signature of a sasquatch? Is it one of a squirrel?
A possible, because it's all different. Until you get to
that point, you know, you have to really look at
everything in a bigger spectrum and do process of elimination.

Speaker 1 (02:42:09):
That's exactly it, you know, and learn your animals, learn
their rabbits. It's not that hard.

Speaker 4 (02:42:17):
Oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 13 (02:42:19):
I used to every night before I it got dark,
I would walk around the outside of my house. I'd
look at the ground. I would take pictures with my
camera of every stick, every rock, everything that was on
the ground all the way around. And then the next
morning I would go back and compare, and I noticed

(02:42:39):
certain things would change. They would take sticks and put
them into letters, or a rock would be stacked, or
something would change, and then I.

Speaker 4 (02:42:49):
Could be a little bit more focused.

Speaker 13 (02:42:51):
Then I would pay attention to what was going on
around it to see if there's any other you know,
like a small animal or something that could have done it.
I mean, okay, a rock got moved a foot in
the hand. A squirrel could have done that, you know
what I mean. So you have to be realistic with it. Know,
the squirrel and the raccoon are not going to take
sticks and put them in the shape of letters.

Speaker 4 (02:43:10):
You know, they're always doing the letter A.

Speaker 13 (02:43:12):
But you have to look at the overall picture and
you have to problem solve. You know, take a lot
of pictures with your phone before and after when you
leave gifts, so that you can tell and be precise
as far as what.

Speaker 4 (02:43:26):
Kind of movement's been done with anything that you've gifted.
Take pictures of the ground around it so you can
see as the grasp been displaced, is it you know,
how if it's flattened down, how big is it? Like?
You have to get really.

Speaker 13 (02:43:39):
Really picky about it, because you know, we all get
excited and we want everything to be them, but we
have to be realistic and say, not everything is encrypted.

Speaker 1 (02:43:50):
That is very true. Not everything is encrypted, according to
Robin Hayes.

Speaker 4 (02:43:57):
But they get into a lot. They definitely get into
a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:44:00):
Oh, I agree. I agree at this point, okay with
with the sasquatch and everything kind of dying down. And
I don't use the word dying. I mean, you know,
the sightings and everything don't do to winter. Are there
other cryptids that all of a sudden come into fruition

(02:44:21):
at this time of year?

Speaker 13 (02:44:23):
You know, I think that they don't get as quiet
as time of year as everybody thinks. I noticed, you know,
like you're the lizard people tend to take it back
a little bit. They don't do as well in the cold,
but they are still out and about, Like I didn't

(02:44:43):
notice any lag even in Michigan with all the snow
mine are out just as much, just as much. But
you know, I think your dog men are very active
in the winter. Sasquatch would be next in line. I've
seen more dogmen continue, you know, as far as activity

(02:45:06):
wise in the winter, But when you get into like
the lizard man and that kind of thing, they tend
to back off a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:45:14):
I don't see personally.

Speaker 13 (02:45:16):
This doesn't mean they're not, but personally I don't see
as many cat people in the winter. I don't they
don't hibernate. They don't, you know, none of these cryptids hibernate.

Speaker 4 (02:45:26):
They just don't.

Speaker 13 (02:45:27):
They may lay up because they don't want to be
out in the cold, or if the weather's bad or whatever,
and they may just you know, stay in the cave
systems where it's warmer and it's drier. But look at us,
you know, we tend to stay more inside when the
weather's ice cold out and there's snow on the ground,
or if it's raining and storming and everything else. We're
not outside either, But we're not hibernating. We're still living

(02:45:51):
our life. We're just doing it in a more comfortable way.
But I never had for myself. I never had a
lag time where they didn't. I think the most that
they ever got really really quiet in the winter time
was if there was a storm coming in or if
want to just hit and they might be quiet for

(02:46:12):
a couple of days, but they still came out and
got food every night.

Speaker 4 (02:46:15):
They never missed.

Speaker 13 (02:46:16):
They still were outside my window every night, tapping on
my window, never missed. I mean, it just didn't slow
them down as much as people thought. You know, I
don't think they were as far as they were still out.

Speaker 4 (02:46:32):
And about every day.

Speaker 13 (02:46:33):
But I don't think they were as active as you know,
like in the summertime. In the spring they're playing around
in the trees and they're you know, they're wrestling around,
or they're taking naps under the trees. I didn't see
all that that, you know, got curtailed quite a bit
just due to weather conditions. But they were still out
and about every day, and most of my contacts, you know,

(02:46:54):
over the years, they still had contact with them.

Speaker 4 (02:46:56):
It didn't stop.

Speaker 1 (02:46:59):
Question for you you about sasquatch. What happens if they
hurt themselves. Let's say they break an ankle, or they
fall down a cliff and break ribs, Like, what do
they do?

Speaker 4 (02:47:14):
Yeah, and they do.

Speaker 13 (02:47:15):
If you knew how many actually fall out of tree
or you know, get in a tussle with another one
and then they get hurt. They do medicinal healing with
things that they do in the woods. They also heal
with frequency. They also contact people like myself, and there's
hundreds and thousands of people that can do it, that

(02:47:35):
can do healing with frequency on them. Generally, what happens
I've had them actually, you know, contact me in physical
form where I would have to push energy and frequency
into it to heal it. I've also had them contact
me through mind speak and do it remotely, and then
I have other people that will speak to them as
well and verify it so that I know that it
actually did some good. I've had people with me before

(02:48:00):
when I've done it, and so they do. They are
very gifted at it. They frequency heels guys. It really
and truly does and they again they will like white pine.

Speaker 4 (02:48:16):
Needles, there's healing properties in it. Willow bark.

Speaker 13 (02:48:20):
They strip the bark, they get the extract out of it.
It works as an aspirin, so it works as a
pain reliever. Pumpkins, the vitamins from pumpkins help them when
they're sick. Pumpkins help them when they're sick if they've got,
you know, problems with their stomach, or they're constipated or whatever,
or they can't settle their stomach. Ginger root they use
that when they're nauseated or if they're upset, especially the

(02:48:42):
females while pregnant, so they have things in You know,
Native Americans are pros, and we need to listen to
them more because they know a lot of these homeopathic
recipes and things that you can naturally find out in
the woods, and they will do the same in the
as far as a broken body part, if they cannot

(02:49:04):
heal it on their own, they will get hold of
one of us that can do frequency work and heal it.
If not, they are not opposed to, you know, limping around.

Speaker 4 (02:49:12):
They don't have crutches out there.

Speaker 13 (02:49:14):
They're going to use the lugs, they're going to use
the branches, they're going to use the sticks, and they
will heal. But you would be amazed if anybody ever
realized how often they break a leg, break an ink
or whatever. They're climbing up in trees, they're wrestling, they're
falling down. I have one that i'm you know, I
talk to a lot and he got into a fight

(02:49:34):
with one in the clan and knock the holy crap
out of the one. They got in an argument, you know,
and somebody got hurt. Somebody's always getting hurt, you know,
And they have to have healing, and they heal through frequency.
They do what they can with what is on this
planet as far as medicinal things, but they heal with frequency.

Speaker 4 (02:49:52):
And if they can't heal with the frequency on their own.
They contact us and you put our frequency with their
frequency and it heals.

Speaker 1 (02:50:02):
Amazing, incredible. Have they figured out nature's healing sources, you know,
whether it's certain plants, whether it's yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:50:15):
Absolutely, okay, absolutely, they excuse me. I have a couple
of recipes that they gave me and I used them
and they work. They know what they're doing.

Speaker 13 (02:50:28):
That's how I learned about the willow bark extract and FYI, guys,
you can buy it from Amazon. The first time they
told me to make something that helped for my fibromyalgia
and arthritis and muscle pains, and they told me what
to make, and it's all natural stuff that you can
get out of the woods. It's not anything crazy. And

(02:50:50):
they kept saying, you know, go to the back. We'll
tell you how to get the medicine from the willow trees.
And I'm like, I don't have a willow tree back there,
but yes you do, Yes, you do, go back there.
We'll tell you how to get the medicine from the willow,
but from the willow tree. And I was like, I
don't have one. I said, I have what's called Amazon,

(02:51:10):
So I like order it off of Amazon. And I
was talking to my neighbor one day and I said, yeah,
they keep She she you know, has seen them in
her yard as well, and she was like, you know,
how are they doing.

Speaker 4 (02:51:21):
I said, well, they're insistent.

Speaker 13 (02:51:22):
There's a willow tree back here and they're going to
show me how to get, you know, the extrarac out
of it. She said, there is one back here. She said,
go back far enough. She said it's right on the
property line between mine and yours. So they absolutely knew
it was back there. They are very insistent, and I said, well,
I'm not climbing up the willow tree to get the
extrac out of it.

Speaker 4 (02:51:39):
I'll call Amazon so I get the I mean, I
make it and it does wonderful with colds too, because
it has grown ginger.

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