Oct. 26/25 - Spooky Season, Paranorma & More !! w/ Tillie & Artemaeus Treadwell

Tonight we get into spooky season !!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to spaced Out Radio, the after hours radio show.
We're getting into the spooky season here and we're gonna
be talking to Tilly and our Tomus Treadwell, getting into
some spooky stories and all of the sort here tonight
as we prepare for the holiday coming up. That'll be
for hours one and two. Then in hour three we'll
do some tales and told misperson mysteries, maybe getting into

(00:22):
some Drew Bank key with that after hours wrap up, but
we'll see what's going on, we'll fill it out otherwise,
you guys, get ready to go. Let's get this thing started.
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we're gonna have a great show here tonight. It's getting
into spooky season. We're bringing back Tilly and Art to
mas treadwell as we get into some spooky stuff. And
they're looking really snazzy here and sharp here tonight. And

(01:49):
now I'm not gonna waste any time as we go
ahead and bring them back this back for third time.
That's how awesome needs to are. Let's get them up here.
Art to me is Tilly to the stage. Please, there
we go, Here we go, Hey here, everybody, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Hey? We might be looking fresh tonight, but not merely
as fresh as your hat, my man.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
You guys are really like man. Okay, So let's talk. Okay,
So what what are we seeing here? What what swagger
we coming in with tonight?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Go ahead, Tilly take it away, absolutely well, this is
my take on a little red riding hood. You can't
see the entire costume, but hopefully enough to kind of
get the story across. I do have a really neat
wolf mask that I'm working on. It's on an opera stick,

(02:44):
and so I sometimes will disguise myself as the wolf
and then take it away to reveal a little red.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
That is awesome. Man, how about you? Arts? What what
are we looking at here? What's what's it?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Little homage to the Anss with some little bit of
Irish mafia.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
So that's what I'm talking about. I like that, I
really do like that. That's thing. Get outside the box. Okay,
so we're you know, we're gonna have an awesome show here.
We We had a great conversation last couple of times.
Last time was the first time we had Tilly join us,
and we came up with this idea to do a
Halloween show that was months down the line, and it

(03:23):
kind of flew by and all of a sudden, here
we are, Uh so, what were you What did you
guys have in mind? What did it? Because I have
some things I do definitely want to talk about, But
did you have anything in mind that you specifically want
to touch being that it is spooky season. Okay, we go, here,
we go, let's see bring that up, Tilly. What are

(03:45):
we looking at?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yes, this is Tails from the Rift. This is my
first stand alone book, and it is a collection of
real paranormal tales that are adapted from encounters that I
have had in my weird walk home. So tales that
are love stories between human people and non human people,

(04:11):
stories that are all about friendship. But then there are
also what you guys would probably consider some horror stories
as well, stories of possession and how that may occur.
And the premise of the book is that they see
you too, that just beyond the firelight, non human people

(04:33):
have always been watching humankind and they are ready to
begin telling their stories.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Wow, that's okay, that's a nice package right there. And
the way that I'm the way that I feel about it,
and you, okay, they're they're looking at you? Is that
what the quote was, They're looking at you?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yes, okay, they see you too.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
They see you too, Okay. So that kind of encapsulates
that whole freaky idea that these things could be right
on the other side of this thin veil and literally
watching everything that we do in our most private moments,
you know what I mean. And I've been thinking about
that and it kind of makes me feel weird. How
would you explain that? What is that veil that we're

(05:15):
looking at? And are they existing right here within our
own the current existence that we know and understand?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I love those questions as always. My man. Well, I
see the veil as a separation of vibrations in a way,
but it's not quite that simple from how I see it.
To me, it's also a separation of the senses. So
our eyes, our ears, our brains, they've got filters essentially,

(05:47):
because if we were to see quite literally everything and
everyone around us, we would likely be driven mad, and
of course that would make focusing on survival tasks incredibly difficult.
And the more ego content that a person has, the
thicker the mind filter is, the thicker the focus filter is.

(06:10):
Then as well, the thicker the lenses on the eyes
are that the thicker the visual veil is, and then
different ear structures lead to different thicknesses of that veil
as well. So, for example, for me, the reason I
wrote this book in part is because I've always lived

(06:32):
what you could call a hypermagical life, and that's magical
with a queue because I've been diagnosed with extremely low
ego content, a very thin eye lens. Plus I have
a different eye structure, which is why my eyes look funny,
my eyes are so big, and then I have a
different ear structure. So for me, I grew up with
commuting with the non human people around us, and they

(06:56):
often will come and talk to me, whether it's to
deliver messages humankind or to just hang out and shoot
the breeze, you could say. Or now they know that
I am collecting stories and their perspective, so sometimes they'll
pop up and say, hey, I think that this experience
from my life should go into your next book to
help humankind evolve one way or the other, or to

(07:20):
just you know, help bridge that gap, to help build
some empathy, and it helps to kind of tear down
that veil a little bit more between all of the
different branches of our giant family, if that makes sense.
So in a way, those are the different definitions of
the veil that I personally have and experienced, and now

(07:40):
science is coming to bear with that out and I
am super excited for the next ten years for our
society because I think that humankind is on the precipice
of something that we've never seen before. Our amias, honey,
do you have anything to add.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Just sitting here pondering on the cleverness of your costume,
your reference, my what pretty eyes you have? The better
to see you with, my dear, many levels to that
for anybody paying close attention.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I like that. I like that. Man, you guys are deep.
I love it. I love it. So okay, So so
what that you said? Right? So we sometimes can see
the other way and see into this other realm or
whatever this is. But it's not a normal thing for
us to be able to do like the individuals like yourself,

(08:36):
Tilly able to do this fine tune. Your frequency is
tuned allowing you to do this. So are we more
so than the subject in this as far as uh,
some people like to think that we are. We've been
genetically engineered and we're sort of a project. So it
seems like it's a one way glass where they can

(08:58):
look in, but we can't look out. Usually, So what
is there something to that and how would you explain that?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, typically it is the way that you have described
as a one way glass. But I have met typical
people who, by moving to a certain location with specific geography,
for example, they've suddenly started having experiences that they've never

(09:27):
had before because there's an external veil tear. My colleagues
Steve Mahra and Barry Fitzgerald talk about this pretty often
these days, and that was science that's also been explained
to me over the entirety of my lifetime, and I'm
really grateful that people now have the scientific tools to

(09:50):
begin to prove this, you know, with the magnetics and whatnot.
Aside from that, though, if someone is focusing on on
certain intent or they are doing certain activities which act
as indivitations for particular types of NHP non human people,

(10:13):
then that veil can become thinner over time, especially if
they're spending a lot of time with an intermediary like me.
Because before Ardemaeis met me, he really didn't have anything paranormal.
But the more he's been with me, the more he's
been around me, you could say, in my atmosphere, in

(10:33):
my orbit, the more he has been able to see
with his eyes in his own waking times. And these
things began to happen before I even started to talk
to him about the really deep things that I've lived
with for my entire life. So it can happen in

(10:53):
a multitude of ways, but those are the most common
ones from what I've understood.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
But I think you're missing a bake one, honey.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
And what's that? You might be right?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, so about psychedelics.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh, yes, you are correct. I'm still integrating some of
that information. But I think that would be more your specialty.
So why don't you tell us all about that?

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (11:19):
So, I mean, based on my experience thus far with it,
the only so the only psychedelics that I've ever done
was ayahuasca. In fact, Tilly and I did that one
weekend together, and that's a whole other story of how
vastly different our experiences were, which I believe we probably
talked about it on another show. But yeah, it's based

(11:40):
on what I think I understand about neurology essentially, and
the brain is that, And what some psychotherapists have put
out is that psychedelics, LSD, DNT, psilocybin, those sorts of
drugs interact with the human brain to essentially take what's

(12:02):
called the default mode network offline. And the default mode
network is sort of like your blinders throughout your day.
It's what keeps you focused on what you think is
the reality that you can perceive around you. And it's
kind of my personal belief based on some of the
evidence that when somebody is on psychedelics, instead of making

(12:24):
up things that their brain is making up, that they're
actually perceiving other dimensions of the realities, other vibrations, and
that some people quite literally do lose their mind when
there's a psychosis that occurs, because again, that is not
necessarily something that the average human brain, as it is

(12:44):
wired here in this reality, to be able to perceive
all that input is essentially like overloading the circuit. So
some people obviously have great trips, and you know, they
do psychedelics often, and they like being in that world
in between, and unfortunately for me, that was not really
the case on ayahuasca. But all of that to say

(13:07):
that I do think that that is another way that
we can temporarily thin that veil even more and be
able to see these other things that perhaps people like
Tilly who are genetically different can just see without that
sort of intervention.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, that's awesome, and yeah, I'm sitting here thinking drew back.
He's a part of this show, and we talked ayahuasca
all the time. That's definitely one of the keys for
someone who doesn't have just the unique tool to go
ahead and do that. So that makes total sense. And
I was thinking as far as dimensions, I'm like, how
can an outlook on dimensions that I recently thought of

(13:48):
was like, Okay, think about a zoo and think about
each exhibit in the zoo. Okay, so you have the
gorilla exhibit, you have the giraffeic exhibit, you have the
I don't know if they even use orcas anymore, but
say you have the fish over here, right, so you
can kind of see into this other habitat is not

(14:08):
something that you're used to. So I wonder, you know,
if that's sort of a thing where we all exist
in our own little habitats and we're not really meant
to cross each other. Do you think that that's a
thing or do you think that do you think you're
only supposed to see through this veil or do you
feel like you're supposed to also be able to interact

(14:30):
with the things over there on that other side as well? Well?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I think about every person, every relationship. Every situation is unique,
and so in some cases there seem to be such
high vibration you could say, NHP that they can't even
incarnate here, or if they were to incarnate here, it's

(15:00):
so dense and so physical that it would kill them instantly.
Or for human beings, I don't think that human beings
could really survive very well outside of, as you say,
this bubble. And then there are the times where those

(15:22):
two extreme rules are thrown out the window, and there
are some very real, real, very physical interactions here in
this realm, or here in the realms that are right
above this one. Hence the stories of human beings being
taken away by the fairy folk, for example, or by

(15:47):
some NHP that a lot of people would call aliens
or extra terrestrials. So there's a lot of variants in
it in my experiences and in my understanding. But I
think perhaps a more holistic way to think of it
could be to think of pieces of tissue paper stacked

(16:10):
on top of each other, and think about the interaction
bubbles being little drops of water that will temporarily blend
and bind the pieces of tissue paper together for a while,
and then the tissue paper will separate again as it dries.
Does that make sense? Does that have?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's awesome right there? Yeah, that's totally awesome. Okay, so
very great visual too. I like that. So, as far
as Halloween goes, does this time of year do anything
different for the way that you experience things? Do you
think that it's just a holiday just happens to be

(16:54):
a time of the year, or do you feel that
energies or things like that may pick up during the
time of year. Do you think that's the thing?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Sure? Well, in my experience, there are three most liminal months,
and some of them are rather universal, but some of
them are more specific to the US, and some are
even more specific to regions within the US. It all
depends on the geography and the populations, the traditions, the

(17:23):
human energy that's floating around at the time. But there
are three months that I consider to be most liminal
of all and to be when the veil between the
vibrations and the species is thinnest, and those would be May, October,
and December. So May. If you read the old tales,

(17:48):
do you know anything about the May Pool dances?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Love to hear about it?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay? Well, in some traditions in some cultures and countries,
in May, there is a pole that is erected in
a large field, at least traditionally, it's not nearly as
common anymore, and you would have dances around it, twirling
ribbons around it, and it's said to be a how

(18:14):
to put this, like a politely, it's said to be
like a fertility ritual, if you kind of catch my
drift with the symbology. But originally, the entire month of
May in these countries was considered to be both fearful
and sacred and joyful because it was a time when
the fairy folk and the human folk were said to

(18:38):
have a truce and would commune, and that you were
it was kind of like a springtime Halloween. People would
dress up fancy, some of them are dressed in costumes,
and you would give out certain treats, and you were
expected to be extremely kind to all of your neighbors,
human and not. And it's not celebrated too much anymore.

(19:02):
But from what I understand, the thinness of the veil
is still quite tissue paper thin at that time in May,
and then of course in October we happen to have
Halloween Halloween is traditionally said to be a time when
the world can commune together, and that was also reflected

(19:24):
in the other cultures, especially the Celtics or Celtics, depending
on how you want to pronounce it. And then December
is the third one. December is the most ferocious because
in the northern hemisphere you have the snow and the

(19:45):
cold and the thread of death essentially every single day
until spring comes. But December in some places is the
absolute worst. That's also when you have Yule and Christmas,
and it's a time where you're supposed to be celebrating
community again, so you've got you've got community between human

(20:06):
people and non human people or just human people generally.
There are gifts being given, there are feasts, and it's
in a time of either the deep darkness like December,
or it's a time of transition like May and October
can be considered. Does that answer your question?

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, And it makes sense because you have geographical energy
hot spots where anomalist things happen, anomalies where they are
greater greater chances of these things happen. So then it
would make sense that there may be seasonal time of year,
you know, events that trigger this sort of energy as
well for you are to me is what does Halloween

(20:44):
do for you? Does it does it connect to anything
outside of you know, just the dress up portion, or
do you have a deeper connection to Halloween?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I mean, like Tilly said, I grew up kind of
minus a lot of that magical sort of life. And
what I was introduced to was pretty much a commercial
culture here in the United States. So you know Halloween was, yeah,
you dress up and you know, costumes, and you go around,
you get candy, and there was really wasn't much thought
to that until I actually got a little bit older,

(21:14):
and perhaps even shortly before I met Tilly again lending
to her perhaps her introduction into my life, when there
was that whispering of you know, there might be something more,
you know, to life than this, and I had begun
to sort of feel a little bit more of a
pull towards the pagan type traditions and you know, sooyn

(21:36):
where people would celebrate more the seasons and you know
what that meant for life in the cycles and you
know archetypes and you know psychology, you know all of
those sorts of deeper I don't want to call them truths,
but you know, deeper things to live by, I suppose
not as superficial as the commercial holidays. So for me,

(21:57):
it it makes sense on the left level that at minimum,
around you know, Halloween and December, in those deeper months,
when at least in the Northern hemispheres geographically speaking, you
know you are facing more of a mortal threat in
that way, and perhaps through whatever mechanisms, then that it's

(22:18):
the veil thins at that point. So for me, I'm
still very still out on exactly you know, what the
mechanisms specifically are that are causing those things, But certainly
it makes sense to me that around the Halloween time
at least, you know, October through December here in the
northern hemispheres, that you would be more prone to experiencing

(22:42):
the paranormal.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
And if I may too, the sunlight has a lot
to do with it, in my understanding and in my experience,
because many interdimensional non human people cannot really bear sunlight
very well, if at all. And May is in the springtime,
the sun is not yet at its height, obviously it

(23:06):
is a liminal transition time. But then October, November, December
and January, the sunlight it's at its weakest and it's
at its shortest presence time per day. And what a
lot of non human people have told me over the
years is that about two hours after the sun sets

(23:31):
until about an hour before the sun rises, those are
their most active, their strongest times, when they're able to
manifest more freely here in a way that is far
more physical for human or three D people like us,

(23:51):
where they can be experienced in that way, or of course,
on a really cloudy day, there are I've had some
experiences with non human people on cloudy days that just
popped out of nowhere, and they would walk with me
for a while and explain.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
And we're gonna hold right there. Tilly Treadwell, r Tomas
Treadwell joining us here tonight. We're gonna get into some
really good stuff here Tales from the Riff, along with
other spooky, spooky stories here tonight on Space Out Radio,
the app hour radio show. See you back after the break.

(24:31):
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Spooky season. We're talking with Tilly and Art Meez Treadwell.
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put on their best spreads for the season. We have
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explaining something at the break. I don't know if you
remember this five minutes ago. Do you recall what you
were talking about.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's all right to put a mental bookmark
on it. It's all right. I was talking about sunlight actually,
and that sunlight actually hinders a lot of NHP ability
to manifest here because from what I've been told, over
essentially the entirety of my life, sunlight changes and it

(31:22):
charges the atmosphere. You know how some people here will
get cancer melanoma from the sunlight, but other people thrive
on it. It seems to be a genetic thing. And
unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you look at it,
a lot of NHP just can't handle a lot of sunlight,

(31:45):
if at all. So for some of them it could
be likened to quite literally walking into the sun or
yet into the actual sun or a fire, and it
would kill them. And there is also the way that
it changes the blood chemistry. It's said that people here
get a lot of vitamin D from the sunlight, but

(32:08):
in my experiences a lot of them say that nutrition
works quite differently elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Here's one thing I wonder, right, So in the in
the example I was given earlier, so you have a
zoo exhibit, right, So I was just thinking, when we're
when we make this contact interdimensionally, whether it's paranormal with apparitions,
whether it's actual beings living means. I'm just thinking, like, okay,

(32:37):
what would a gorilla do with a bear? Right? So, okay,
they probably could hang out together, But it's like, is
there really a future in that? And would it even
be necessary? So the reason why I'm asking that is
is because would there even be any benefit I'm thinking
at the end of the day for us to even
be able to access these other dimensions? Like, what do

(32:59):
you think think about that? Would it really makes sense
at the end of the day, would we even what
could we benefit from that?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I think that a person who is ego based and
three D but who has done I'm just going to say,
like a lot of their own inner self reflection and
tamed their most basic ego drives would highly benefit from

(33:35):
these interactions and even perhaps visiting these other places and
these other societies. But for a lot of people who
have not done their work, a lot of the NHP
that I've spoken to and worked with over the years,
they typically hate or fear the average human or ego

(34:00):
based three D person, and so there wouldn't be any
benefit because they'd be the human being would be walking
into a situation where they don't know the culture. They
probably look different, they function differently, the nutrition is different.
And I don't know if you've ever met a frightened
or angry human being, but typically it doesn't. It doesn't

(34:23):
go very well, and so cooperation goes right out the window.
And that's that's a great way to start some kind
of feud, and there are reports of that in the past.
So I think it all depends on the individual. But
I mostly don't recommend really trying to go anywhere else

(34:44):
or make contact with NHP unless someone really has their stuff,
their inner stuff worked out, because a lot of non
human people, in my experiences and in my understanding, are
terrified of human beings or they absolutely hate them, or
are just mystified by them, kind of from afar, you
know what I mean? Artamais honey, do you have anything

(35:06):
to add that on that note?

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Lots?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yes, please please. I think you can communicate this better
than I can right now for the audience.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
It's good to have your half.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
It helps me too, and I think it would definitely
help the listeners from a different perspective, because that's how
I've learned what I have is by listening to you.
So the perspective generally that I bring to it is
the background that I have, which is mostly an evolutionary biology,
animal behavior, human psychology, you know, that kind of angle.
And so I have come to understand just how much

(35:37):
overlap there is with human and animal behavior. We like
to think that we're a lot higher order than they are,
but we we really we're not that much higher in
a lot of ways. And when you know, she says, ego,
I that's a loaded word that a lot of people
tend to misinterpret. And I think one word that I'm
coming to use more is awareness. And you know, people

(36:01):
think that they are quite aware of themselves. But if
if you have moments where you explode at somebody because
you realize later, oh crap, I forgot to eat breakfast
and I'm angry, you know, you realize pretty quickly that
on many different levels, your awareness isn't really what you
think that it is. Or if you have vices that

(36:25):
you just say, well, I just want to do it
because it feels good. Now there's a lot of work
there to do as well. When you can make a
choice that you had thought about from multiple different angles,
how it affects you, the people around you, your you know,
forward life, everything in many, many different dimensions, and then

(36:45):
make as calculated a decision as you possibly can from that.
Then I'd say you're starting to exercise the level of
awareness that would be necessary to have I think even
remotely even footing with an NHP or you know, paranormal
entity interaction or even be remotely inviting to interact with them.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
And so.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, it's it's that level of awareness that makes all
the difference. Yeah, I kind of went down a little
rabbit hole there for a second, but hopefully that that
helps to clarify.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
No, that's awesome, that's awesome. And you did say a
word that triggered, so you said exercise, and we'll talk
about exorcise and exorcism and the the So with this
whole conversation we're having about, uh, the relationship potentially between
one dimensional being in another dimensional in some other dimension

(37:46):
when we talk about because I would assume that exorcisms,
which is a possession put essentially of a human body,
is that something that's coming, Is that something that has
stepped into our dimension to possess or it is the
possession happening remotely from this other dimension.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Those are some great questions there too, And if I may,
I'd like to add a note about the free will.
That's one of the biggest complaints that I keep hearing
from NHP over essentially the whole of my lifetime. That
the reason a lot of them will not interact with
human beings positively or at all if they can avoid it,

(38:30):
is because human beings elsewhere are considered to be semi
sentient creatures. And so that's why there's always such a
push for human beings to continue to evolve and gain
more awareness and then to gain more free will, to
be able to sit with information and then make calculated

(38:53):
choices instead of just reacting off of emotion. And this
is also why human beings or the person with the
most ego content clinically speaking, always sets the contract with
the non human person, because the people who have no
or extremely low ego content are quite flexible emotionally, visually,

(39:18):
they're very flexible with love and with social contracts. People
who have a lot of ego content are not that way,
and so you've always got to go with the person
who has more ego content and allow them to set
the contract and speak their language and try to meet
them on their level first and hope that they can
eventually come up because they as they've taught me, if

(39:43):
you are someone with extremely low or no ego content
and you try to bring them up to your mental
realm too quickly, it always ends in pain and is
and whatnot. So you've got to work within the belief

(40:03):
system and the emotional social frame of the person with
the most ego content. Now this also gets into the exorcisms.
In my experience and understanding, these non human people are
coming from their higher dimension, their lighter dimension, and they

(40:24):
are working up to a possession. A possession is their
final ability to manifest here on this plane. So it
is a type of you could say, pregnancy or incarnation
into the human form, because they otherwise, for whatever reason,

(40:46):
cannot manifest here incarnate here independently. At least, this is
what I'm told, and I tend to believe it because
of all the fuss that is made over possessing human
god and human lives.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I'll introject here one second, Honey, I think might be
useful reference for anybody who's a fan of the Harry
Potter series. Maybe many people listening would know of I
forget which book it's in, But Professor Quarrel and his
essentially inhabitation of Lord Voldemort, that is actually I think

(41:24):
quite demonstrates what it is that you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yes, yes, And there's a physical manifestation there with him
having two faces with the one head two. I would
like to say that not all possessions are bad, quote unquote,
and not all of them come from someone who is
completely as I like to teach, toxic, destructive, abusive, et cetera,

(41:50):
et cetera. There is a very small subset of possessions
that is symbiotic that I discovered in my time with
the Catholic Church, and it was at the time the
strangest thing that I had ever encountered, but it was
fully benevolent. Okay. I call this the biological rotational acquisition

(42:13):
theory the RT. And these are fully formed human beings
who seem to have had no trauma, but they seem
to be lower in ego content. They tend to be
very mild, sweet people who sometimes just randomly, sometimes it
build over years, they suddenly seem to develop a second personality.

(42:37):
But when I would investigate, it turns out to be
a completely non human person who has some kind of
you could say, soul contract or spirit contract with the
human soul to share the body, so they'll alternate in
and out to accomplish certain life missions, and the human

(42:58):
person benefits just as much as the non human person
who is coming in to possess the body for a while.
My favorite example of this, of course, I can't say
names or anything. What should I call her? I'm just
gonna call her Jackie. Let's just call her Jackie. Jackie

(43:18):
was I can't remember. She worked some kind of desk
job or something. She wasn't really too passionate about her
career or anything like that. But she started having strange
items show up around her house that she didn't remember
having there. She started losing track of time, She started
finding evidence that she had suddenly different handwriting, and there

(43:39):
was a whole other cell phone that was in her
kitchen at one time. And her family contacted the church
because she and they thought that she was losing her marbles,
and so they wanted counsel. And before they were going
to suggest that she gets mental help, because she was

(44:01):
just so put together in every other way, they called
our team in to investigate and because we were an
extension of the exorcism team, we went in and I
did my typical examination. I sat and I talked to
her for quite a long time. I took a detailed
family history, I got to meet her family. I tore

(44:23):
apart essentially her home, from top to bottom, looking for
clues of mental illness or fakery, anything of that nature.
And then my teammates they were measuring magnetic differences, they
were looking for emf they were trying to find anything
that they could to debunk this.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
But then.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
When I was investigating the far part of the house
and I was away from everyone else, there was a
non human person who came to me and asked what
I was doing there, and I explained, And I asked
who this person was, and she didn't present as male

(45:05):
or female. It was somewhere in between. But she had
a very feminine essence, so I just say she. But
she told me that she had a contractual agreement with
this person to share the body, and that she was
there to study and to learn and to get a
grasp for this realm because she was thinking of incarnating

(45:26):
here independently at some point, but she was nervous about it.
Because this is the densest and the most violent of
places that you can incarnate, she said. And so when
I talked to her, she said, oh, yeah, absolutely, I
brought I bought these things, and I leave the notes
and whatnot so that I lose so that I don't

(45:46):
lose my place in this lifetime when I come back
to borrow the body to keep my appointments. And it
turned out had gotten the body and she had taken
the body through real estate courses, and now this human
person has a real estate license and we were going

(46:08):
through the bank statements because she's the human person was like, oh, yeah,
you know that is weird. I am starting to get
deposits and I don't know where it came from, but
I've just been so stressed out about this I completely forgot. No,
the non human person possessing the body had sold a
house and was working contracts in order to sample this

(46:31):
life here. And then she's like, I don't care about
the money. The person who possesses the body normally can
just keep the money. I just want the experience and
I want to be able to see what it's like
here before I fully commit. And so in that case,
everyone was winning there were no EVPs, there was nothing
scary going on, except for, of course, if you consider

(46:54):
the other details I was giving to be scary. And
the story seemed to have had a happy ending. The
family and lady kept in touch with the father and
with us for the entire year, and there was seemingly
no issue. Hopefully, now they're both wealthy and having all
the life experiences that they were looking for.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
What do you think about when you hear that? Arts man,
it's multiple entities like U inhabiting one body. That's actually
I've never thought about that. What how what do you
think about when you hear that?

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, it can make sense to me
on a number of levels. I mean, they say that
we as humans are not using our brains to their
fullest potential. And if you know, we essentially removed the
governor on our brain when we take psychedelics, and we
realize that there's so much more potential to the brain

(47:53):
in that way, and that the ego is simply a
subset of that rains potential, then it makes perfect sense
to me that there could be other essentially compartmentalizations where
you know, multiple I don't want to say multiple personalities,
because that's not necessarily what it is. Different entities essentially

(48:16):
can it can occur. There's room for that. There is
so much about the human body that we do not
yet understand in the medical community. Myself going through all
sorts of you know, lovely fun medical things, you know,
as I approach my forties, things that I'm learning on
how to take better care of this vessel that is

(48:39):
that I inhabit. That even it's frustrating even and looking
up the information that there are conflicting sources everywhere, and
then some papers that are so bold as to say, yeah,
we really don't know for sure. So it completely does
not surprise me to find that something like this could happen.
And honestly, since knowing Tilly, the less that I fight

(49:02):
that notion that the way that I think things should
be or that they are is the way that they
you know, should be, or that that is the only way,
the less I fight that and the more I simply
listen and you know, kind of let it settle what
I'm what I'm hearing, and what I'm seeing. Let it
move past that little lower brain that wants to you know,

(49:26):
the fight or flight brain that wants to freak out
about every little thing that seems to threaten the ego.
It has done wonders really for my enjoyment of life
in general. So yeah, I would say totally cool as
long as it's symbiotic. We know those relationships exist in nature.

(49:46):
I mean, I would like to be inhabited by somebody
who's made a few million dollars by now, but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
And I'm just thinking about that because it makes it
makes so much sense, and I'm just trying to, you know,
put it in an an analogy, right, so, trying to
position it in a way where it for me it
would seem like, you know, instead of something being locally

(50:14):
here and stepping into our bodies, maybe it being something
that taps into conscious to our consciousness being that our
consciousness is out there right. So, and it makes me
think of what maybe some young people won't remember, but
there was something called a party line where you could
have thirty different people on one phone call and they

(50:35):
can all tap in to your call. And I'm just wondering, like,
is that the thing that's happening, Because when we talk
about we can go back to extratrest, real abductions, and
some people that feel like their consciousness is being abducted,
and then like all these experiences, are these just like
tap something tapping into each you know, tapping into your consciousness,

(50:58):
kind of like a wire tap almost.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Yeah, So there, Oh gosh, And I wish that I
could remember this guy's name, and I'm gonna have to
go look it up.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Are you sure the guy who who came up with
the drawings and the theories of the brain and the
body being its own personal resonator different you know, resonating centers.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Was that that guy?

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Oh? Man, it may have been. I know that he's
highly relevant to what we're talking about right now. That
may be the person you're talking about. It may not be,
so please don't take my word for it.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Actually, yeah, I mean the name sounds vaguely familiar, but
you know, I from what I have come to understand
is that I think of the brain as a radio
dial basically. And there was this other scientist I cannot
remember his name, but he had written papers and you know,

(51:52):
descriptions that after his, of course mysterious death, his wife
then proceeded to put his findings and more of his
papers out. And I can't quite articulate it well right now,
But he had diagrammed that there were actually several resonant
structures within the human body. I want to say, all

(52:16):
along the spine essentially that acted as again resonators that
as we're talking about frequencies that you essentially could dial
into or receive certain frequencies. So I mean, I think
the human body is just a dense tool to collect

(52:40):
frequencies and experience those. So yeah, people can tap into it,
and we just we us what we think of as
I is just one consciousness that's tapping into it. We
think that maybe we're a long maybe we're not. Maybe
there's maybe there are others that are within each of
us that we're not aware of that are just observing.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
So and it makes sense if you've ever seen like
the matrix, how they can just change in the agent
can take over any NPC body and kind of get
in there. And it just feels like that that's something
that would be happening here, especially when you look at
what is expressed to be different Halloween themes like ghosts, possessions,

(53:26):
just hauntings, creatures stepping in from you know, some other
vortex or some other dimension and so it just you know,
when you try to make these things make sense, especially
when we know what we know about, like cryptids and
the things that we know that are really happening, It's like,
how far off are the Halloween stories that we usually

(53:47):
talk about from the reality that we know that exists.
So with that being said, that's kind of where we'll
leave it for now as we go ahead and go
into our break at the top of the hour, and
we'll be back talking more of this tales from the Rift. Well,
we'll get into some bell Witch as well after the break.

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(01:00:07):
After Hours radio show. After our number two. We are
back with Tilly and our Tom is spread will getting
into some real spooky stuff here, getting into some deep
stuff too, target dimensions, other parallel universes. We're gonna get
into some tales of the riff. We're gonna get into
a lot more to right here, second hour Space Out

(01:00:29):
Radio After Hours Radio Show. As we are back in
the building and so yeah, let's go ahead and start there. Tilly,
because we started to show off, we were able to
show your upcoming book. Right, it's not actually out yet,
I think you is it out? It is it?

Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
Is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
This came out on October first, just in time for
the spooky season. There's cover, there's a back. Yeah, there
are twelve tales in this volume for you, and this
is just the beginning. I got a contract renewal because

(01:01:06):
this book went over so well, and I essentially have
free reign to expand the universe, as it were. The
next Tales from the Rift comes out actually in May
of next year, and then I have two other novels
you could say, planned to expand the universe of Tales

(01:01:29):
from the Rift even further. There's also another inclusion. It
was in a book called The Light from Albumoth. I
think I said that correctly, but it was such a
neat project. There was this person that I worked with
for a bit. His name was Jonathan Bartholomew, and he
invited me to take part in a special book project

(01:01:52):
where we would write a story based off of a
tarot reading that we did. And I just love stuff
like that. So I pulled out my cards and I
made a story also about Halloween called jack O Lantern
and it is a modern, esoteric retelling and interpretation of

(01:02:13):
the classic jack O Lantern origin story. You could say
that's also going to be in this universe. But you
can find Delight from Albumouth on Amazon, and then you
can also find the first Tales from the Rift on
Amazon as well. And for any of you pumpkinheads out

(01:02:33):
there who like something really special, I do offer some
autographed hardcover copies and those have been selling really well,
So anyone who is interested please do feel most welcome
to hit me up and we'll be more than happy
to get that out for you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
But yeah, there's the gist of it that is awesome.
I like to know, like, take us into that world.
I just kind of paint the picture. Get everybody like
situated in the world that they know what they're getting
themselves into.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Hype it up with an elevator, pitch got it all right. So,
in this universe, much like our own, human people mingle
with non human people at every turn. Sometimes they know it,
sometimes they don't. And this book is a collection of
tales told about human people from the non human perspective.

(01:03:27):
Just as human people tell stories around the campfire about
ghosts and Gulei's and everything and everyone in between, so
do the non human people tell their stories about you too?

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
And is there one maybe story you could share? With
this kind of with the appetite there, I could.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I could, would you how would you like me to present.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
That anyway without spoilers, without spoilers indefinitely, but no, it
just in any way. This is deferred. This is the
introduction to the world of your universe. And you know,
pick one that did take some right on into the book.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Give him the movie trailer version of one of your
trailer version you know, I can. I can do you
one better. It gives me just a moment, please, And.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
While you're searching for that, I'll go ahead and add
some more show notes here. While we were on the break,
I went ahead and looked up the name of that
individual who mysteriously died after releasing information about the human
body's resonance structures. His name was It'zac bent Off or
Isaac bent Off. So I believe an Eastern European or

(01:04:40):
Russian guy who very very intelligent. Some of his theories
are interesting in that way regarding the human body and
its abilities to perceive and receive other frequencies.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
So that is awesome. Appreciate you doing that, and I
wrote that down as well. Okay, we're ready for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
You, all right, do you have time for a two
minute tail.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
We surely do. Let's bringing up on screen here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
This is called oh Dear. This is not a Halloween story,
but it is an autumn story, and it is a
terrifying one. Most would say so, I think it fits
the bill Oh Deer just seven minutes, Jerome assured Holly,
his eyes brimming with sympathy towards her. The long, steady
beep of the heart monitor droned on and on music

(01:05:33):
to the scene. The pair looked to the stretcher again.
Dale couldn't stop the flood of images, sensations, and choices.
The case of beer attempting to hit the deer on
the side of the road in a drunken rage Thanksgiving night,
his wife and other people were transforming into upright deer.
June's face had then changed from a deer's into a gaping,

(01:05:57):
razor toothed maw full of tentacles. Currently, he had the
worst headache he had ever experienced. Beside Jerome and Holly
stood Robert and June. Holly wiped her eyes and sniffled.
It's unprofessional. I'm sorry, Holly apologized to the group. It's
my first death. June lifted the partially melted ice pack

(01:06:20):
to her cheek, again, patting the massive lump of swelling gingerly.
This will be an easy one, June replied kindly. He
was a drunk and a wife beater. He lost his
mind and his life, and that means I have finally
found mine. Robert cleared his throat. Seven minutes, he announced, somberly,

(01:06:41):
seven minutes for his consciousness to pass peacefully. That is
more mercy than he has ever had on me, June
muttered resentfully. Jerome glanced at the clock on the wall
and nodded. He retrieved the toe tag from his pocket
and applied it to Dale's right big toe.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
There we go. Awesome stuff which I am a round
of applause button which I don't right now, but I
do appreciate you sharing that I was. I was going
right perfect place to leave office, well because I was
kind of getting right into it. When you sit back
and you look at this art, Tomatus, are you just
amazed at at at what your wife is doing here? Like?
How do you feel? Did you have any input on

(01:07:23):
the book or you know, let's talk about that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
No, honestly, I my input on the book.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
I guess you could just say, my contribution is simply
to make sure that the fort is being held down
so that her creativity can be it can allowed, it
can be allowed to flourish. So I I like to
see her be able to put out this information more

(01:07:51):
freely and knowing the impact that her tutelage has had
on my life, you know, from that paranormal aspect, or
the more teaching me more of the non human psychology, which,
as we've talked about in you know previous episodes, has
completely changed my life much for the better. I would
say that my contribution is is only to make sure

(01:08:15):
that she has a safe platform to put that sort
of stuff out, and I let her, I let her go,
let her.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
Teach with that. I think it's it's beneficial for people
to be able to to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
However, it comes in Tilly, what type of Halloween stories
have inspired you to kind of take this path and writing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
What kind of Halloween stories? Well? Do you do you
consider any spooky or strange encounter to be a Halloween story?
Or are you speaking literally sure?

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
It? Actually? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Okay, Well, I I would say then that a lot
of these tales are inspired directly by experiences that I've
had with non human people. But also then the truth
is that the scariest encounters I've ever had in my
life have been with human people. And that's the backbone

(01:09:17):
of the book in a sense. So when I'm working
with these non human people, we'll compare notes about what
it's like to live with and work with people who
have significantly higher ego content than us, and how each
of us may have handled it or mishandled it, or

(01:09:40):
how we can all learn and grow and transform together.
But to be honest, yeah, my scariest encounters have been
with humankind, no contest whatsoever, and I consider all of
those to be worthy of Halloween stories and horror stories beyond.

(01:10:04):
And maybe that's not quite the answer that people would
want or expect to hear, but I'm hoping to kindly
encourage change and illumination and transformation so that we can
all live together magically, happily and harmoniously.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
You know, I agree, and I appreciate that. I do
appreciate you going there and touching that, and because I
feel the same way, we think we all do here.
And you know, every day it's fitting that this is
Halloween season, because every day I wake up. I feel
like I'm in a horror movie, a horror story where

(01:10:40):
I am next on the list. So totally understand and
feel where that's coming from for you are to me
is when you get into this season and maybe growing
up as a kid, what have been some of the
things that kind of, you know, warm you up for
this this season here, like movies, maybe stories, anything that

(01:11:03):
kind of you you may gravitate to more this time season.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Ooh yeah, so I mean I'm I'm kind of a
big fan of the types of stories that sort of
against psychological dramas or in even the movies that in
movies specifically that can give that real, you know, dark
and moody look to it. As you had mentioned at

(01:11:29):
the very beginning of the show, well rather it was
before before the show started, potentially talking about Sleepy Hollow.
So you know the legend of Sleepy Hollow that has
been you know, told and retold many times, but one
of my absolute favorite adaptations of that story was actually
the the one that star Johnny Depp. I'm not sure

(01:11:51):
if anybody is familiar with that version, but the sets
on that movie definitely encapsulate the Halloween season for me,
which is just very dark and dreary, and for me
it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
A time of.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Contemplating and communing with the fair normal. So yeah, that's
what comes to mind first for me, is that story. Gosh,
I mean, And then on the more lighthearted notes, things
like hocus Pocus. You know, and I had two younger sisters,
so you know that that one always was playing around
in the background when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
So yeah, who's your favorite slasher? Who's your favorite slasher?

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
Oohs favorite slasher? Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
All right, So here confession time, I'm not as tough
as I look. I have actually not indulged in any
horror movies. I can't say that I have actually watched
any single one of them for more than a couple
of minutes enough to make a pop culture reference. So
I am a terrible person to ask that question. But

(01:12:57):
Tilling might have a little more insight because recently late
she introduced me to the movie Trick or Treat, which
before Tilly, before getting to know her, I probably would
have been mostly disinterested because I again I admit I
do not tend to gravitate much towards the slasher stories,

(01:13:19):
but that after learning more of the non human psychology,
and you know, understanding things from the perspective that her
book is being written from, which is more from the
non human perspective. I gained a lot more sympathy for
the non human and the understanding of the storylines within

(01:13:42):
that movie. Have you seen that one, Robgie the Trick
or Treat?

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
It sounds very familiar. If I visually saw it, I'd
probably say, yes, it sounds very familiar.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Mm hmm, yeah, Tillie, were you gonna say something or
just waiting my turn?

Speaker 5 (01:13:59):
I think great, Yeah, no, So.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
I would say that's actually probably the only which if
you can call that a slasher film, because there's certainly
so gore and it's certainly some slash thing that goes on.
I think that for anybody is a great Halloween film
for studying paranormal non human psychology, because it's definitely some
things unexpected in there, some things that you would expect,

(01:14:26):
But if you dig just a little bit deeper, there
are more questions to be asked of the storylines that
they portray. So go ahead, Tilly, if there was something
you were going to say.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Yeah, yeah, well, thank you. I had forgotten about you
watching trig Or treat with me the other day. But
I'm glad that you remembered it in this context because
I think it's a fabulous movie. To mention, mister rob
g I would bet my little soul that you know
this movie, because you have to know Sam. He is

(01:14:59):
a small pumpkin, you could say autumn God. He's got
the sack head with the pumpkin underneath of it, and
he carries a lollipop that he slices people with.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Yes, imagine you're not trying to bring that up. No,
I was looking as you guys were telling this story.
I was trying to bring it up for the audience
here and I think I have it here and I'm
looking at this, I'm like, do I remember this at all?
And I don't. I don't, actually, so let me bring
this visual up for everybody else here. This is Trick

(01:15:33):
or Treat and it says it's a comedy, so that
seems to be pretty awesome. I think I'm gonna watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
I think you might really like it, especially if you
get into the esotericism and the non human psychology behind it.
Because at first, blush, it's a fun, kind of campy,
semi slasher film, but when you really start to dig
underneath the surface, there's a lot there that I think

(01:16:07):
is not only educational, but kind of fun and unexpected. So,
for example, Sam is the character that kind of unites
all of the different stories because it is an anthology,
and at first blush, he just seems to be a
psychopath who is a paranormal murderer. But when you really

(01:16:31):
pay attention, he's following certain rules, guidelines, traditions, laws that
he must abide by. And these have to do with
the old fashioned idea of Salin of Halloween. And if
the characters were showing respect and we're following the very

(01:16:54):
bare basics of Halloween, Sam actually would have had a
really positive interaction with them. Interestingly enough, and this is
exactly how I've experienced non human people to be towards
human beings. They tend to either have a really horrible
experience with a non human person or they will have

(01:17:15):
what they call an angelic one, and it can be
the same non human person, but again the person with
the highest ego content. They set the contract and then
the non human person is responding in kind, depending on
what kind of timeline outcome they see or they would

(01:17:36):
like to try to bring about I mean, I'm simplifying it,
but that's the gist of it. And I found it
really fascinating that that was echoed in Trick or Treat
the entire movie through. And I have my suspicions about
who might have written the original stories behind this movie.
I'm going to do some research here soon, but I'm

(01:17:59):
dearly intrigued because this seems to be like it would
be something well within the universe that I'm creating with
Tails from the Rift. It's so similar that there's almost
no difference in the psychology that I'm seeing play out here.
I could not recommend Trick or Treat enough from a

(01:18:20):
personal perspective, a paranormal you know, expert quo unquote perspective,
and just from a folklorous perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Yeah, you know, I always when I get into this
sea further further into this phenomenon rather and I'm just
opened up to all the things that I didn't know
were actually happening, and I'm like, Okay, wow, this is crazy.
All these things are happening, these things are real, And
then it just makes me think back to Halloween as
a kid, you know, when it just the season feels spooky,

(01:18:52):
And that's why I call it spooky season because you know,
every dark corner there's obviously something there right during this season,
so it's more of a whole psychological thing. But then
I look at it more as Okay, maybe something is
over there in the shadows, right, because we know like
cryptids and obviously the extraterrestrial present, we know those are

(01:19:15):
real things that we just didn't think were possible. We
have bigfoot out there in the woods, we have dog
men and all these sorts of creatures that people are
seeing in real life. And then so it brings for me,
if I was a kid knowing what I know today,
I would probably have died from fright many many years ago, Yeah,

(01:19:37):
because I don't you know, if a kid were to
know that cryptids and these things are actually real, like
it's not just you know, close your eyes and this
thing disappears, what would be the mental impact on those
children growing up? And I just think about that, because
it is the reality that we're actually in. You were

(01:19:58):
able to see into these other ves or through the veil,
these are real things that are happening. And I just
think for kids, if they really really knew that that
it was definitely probably something under the bid that they
would go crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Yeah, you know, so there's actually something I'd like to
add there to that because I and in the time
that I was in college, I worked in public education,
and it was I was around a lot of kids
from let's say, uh, you know, like first grade all
the way through eighth grade, doing public outreach programs, and

(01:20:37):
it's amazing to see that there seems to be a
couple of different camps. There are the kids who and
you see videos of this too, like children getting to
see let's say Santa Claus for the first time, or
you know, somebody dressed up in a Halloween costume that
looks scary. You'll get two distinctly usually different responses. You

(01:21:00):
have the kids that are absolutely scared out of their mind,
you know, Santa Claus or Cryptid. They treat them just
the same. It's something that might you know, eat them,
and so they're terrified. And then you have kids that
actually want to go up and greet and touch and
they laugh and they interact. And you know, I've not
personally known very many children like that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:21):
I've seen more.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Perhaps what you would expect rob which are the kids
that would be absolutely terrified. But then you have the
kids that aren't. And what I have come to understand
at this point is that I think that's the difference
between a kid who has I ego content versus a
kid that has low ego content. So the kids who
have the lower ego content are more objective. They don't

(01:21:43):
have that overriding animal instinct, which is I must survive
and anything that is bigger than me is probably going
to eat me. That isn't my mom or my dad
or you know, something that I recognize as familial kin.
Whereas the kids who are lower in ego content are
more objective. You could say their survival instinct is terrible

(01:22:04):
because they're not so concerned with is this thing going
to eat me or not. Death doesn't seem to bother them.
Those are the same sorts of kids that when their
pet dies, or that when a you know, a family
member dies, they're not crying because for whatever reason, they
aren't upset so much by death, you know, And we
can't think that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
They're all psychopaths.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
There's something else going on there where, you know, they're
they're not quite what we would expect for the what
we might call the average human, which should be afraid
of death, should be afraid of things that might cause death.
So I I'm noticing these these different things here, and that,

(01:22:45):
you know, the paranormal doesn't doesn't scare everybody the same.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Yeah, it's so funny because you read my mind. That's
exactly what I was going to say. Because even when
I was four and five years old, they realized that, hey,
that girl quite right. They started taking me into the
shrink's office to talk about getting testing and whatnot, and
I was diagnosed with what would be called now level

(01:23:10):
one autism. But then they came back with some other
strange distinctions, and those later came to be known as
low ego content and low emotional content. And that's why
generally I don't respond the same way as what a
lot of people would when it comes to the paranormal stuff,

(01:23:30):
especially because I've just been used to it essentially my
whole life. You know, I've been outside as a young kid,
and someone who looks definitely non human would come and
walk up to me and start talking me, and I
would treat them just like any other person. It just
did not matter to me. Santa Claus could walk up
to me at any time I'd be like, oh, hello,

(01:23:52):
how are you. It just doesn't matter. I'm just there
to hopefully spread love and not fear, and that's what
a lot of the lower ego do. But very different responses.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Awesome stuff, Awesome stuff, guys. We're having a great time
right here or spaced out radio the after hours radio show.
We'll be back right after the break with Tilly and Art, Tomatous,
Treadwill and the new book tells of the rip. Make
sure you guys go get it. We'll be back right here.
Half hours radio show. See you back here five minutes,
no less, no more. All right, we are clear, We

(01:24:32):
are clear, and yet once again we are We have
an awesome chat. They always throw links in the chat.
This is Art, Tomatus and Tilly's socials right here to Facebook,
YouTube for the weird walk home and also email address.
Make sure you guys contact Tilly as well for that

(01:24:53):
autograph copy of the book, because that would be awesome.
You know, I'm starting to build a collection of book
as well from guests autographs, so I'll have to also
get one of these from Tilly as well. Looks good
quality too. The book looks real solid, hard hardback, really
nice looking book there, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Yeah, I think it is. And my publisher is Tim
Schwartz from Ancient Aliens. Him and John Parkress. He put
this together for me, and I think he did such
a beautiful job with it. I mean I did all
the cover art, but he compiled everything. He got it
nice and edited for me. And then I have a

(01:25:37):
I have an illustrator who took care of all of
the images that you see within the book. Oh wow,
everything is custom and hand drawn, and her art really
has made the entire book come alive. So I've been
working with such a wonderful team. This is one of

(01:25:57):
the Halloween stories, by the way. Yeah, so I'm very
proud of it, and I think that people would really
enjoy it if they got their hands on it. Whether
you like something spooky, something sweet, there is something for everyone.
And now I have been immortalized and my mission is complete.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
That is awesome. That is awesome. I always love promoting
creative work, right because I'm creative myself, a musician. I create, create, create,
so I can appreciate it and it's definitely a good,
solid product to you. Didn't half step right, which is
about a big thing that some people will do is
half step. You did it right. We have proof, we

(01:26:43):
heard you read some from it, and it sounds really compelling,
so I would say, for sure, guys, go get it.
And plus Timmy timak Man is saying here that it's
only twenty dollars for a hardbag, so you might you
might want to take advantage of this. It sounds like
a pretty good deal. So awesome stuff. Glad that you
guys are that you got that done and are able

(01:27:04):
to talk about that here. Tonight's thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Hey, would you like would you like to hear a
little bit of more about the story that I read
on air tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Yeah? Do you want? You want to come do it
when we come back?

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Yeah, whatever you want. I just think I have a
tidbit for you that you'd really enjoy or or you
might be extremely creeped out. I can't tell yet either way.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Well, I don't know, I don't know. I'm a scary
guy man, just like I said with the old kid
thing and the realization that these things are real like
for me, and I'm speaking really for myself because I
know if I were to know all this, I've been
terrified as a kid, but even today as an adult knowing,
and so say my kid comes in and says, hey,

(01:27:48):
there's something under my bed or there's something in the closet.
There's a part of me that's gonna be like, is
there really something in there? And then if there is,
what am I gonna do about it? Sort of thing, right, like, hey,
what can I do about it? So it's oh, yeah,
it's one of those things. Man, it's it's uh, I

(01:28:09):
don't know, man, it's game. It's paradigm shifting, is what
it is. It's just once you know there are actual
things that represent monsters that you've known as monsters that
are living live in our reality.

Speaker 8 (01:28:25):
That is a.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Mind blowing Yeah, And I think I think that most
of the cases that I've encountered, they really could have
been solved by someone the human party just being like, Okay,
privacy is an illusion. This space is not mine. I
share it with other people who are unlike me, and

(01:28:51):
I'm going to walk with humility and respect for other people.
And honestly, that would have solved most of the cases,
or if not that, the human party just just not
being abusive would have fixed the problem because a lot
of these non human people who work at possessing and

(01:29:14):
negatively haunting human beings. They feed on that negative emotional
energy or that fear. So if you dispel the fear,
if you dispel the abuse, the neglect, the filth emotionally
and physically, there's nothing left for them to feed on,
and the atmosphere becomes inhospitable, so they'll leave, they'll go
find someone else. But that's not a message that a

(01:29:37):
lot of ego based people want to hear. They want
to hear me talk about fighting the demons and things
like that, but that's not what happened on my journey
as an exorcist. I feel like my own path as
a non religious exorcist, just walking in objectively and wanting

(01:29:58):
to help everyone has taught me so much more than
preaching religion and fear and war ever could. And it
revealed a lot of inconvenient truths. So there are you know,
a lot of people who they don't want to hear what.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
I have to say coming up right now for break.
Appreciate it all right, everybody, Welcome back Space Stout Radio,
the After Hours radio show. We are back back half
of the second hour with our guests Tilly and our
Tom is treadwill getting in this really good stuff talking
paranormal because it's Halloween is the spooky season. We're telling stories.

(01:30:35):
We're getting in down to the bare bones of what
this reality is. And it's kind of scary that thing
under your bed might be under your bed. Remember that
if you missed any of this conversation, definitely jumping to
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stout Radio. As we are actually back on the back
half of the second hour, and Tilly during the break,

(01:30:58):
you were talking about kind of elaborating on the story
that you told here a moment ago is from the
book Tells from the Rift, which is available on Amazon.
You guys should go check it out. And yeah, go
ahead and take it away TOI Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Absolutely so. I flashed the page with the deer illustration,
and that was based on a story that I was
told by a non human person who lives, you could say,
around the Appalachian area and who claimed to be responsible

(01:31:33):
for some of the not deer sightings that people get.
Are you familiar with the not deer?

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Rob? Never heard of it? No way?

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Okay, all right, So the not deer is essentially the
assertion that sometimes the deer you might see out in
the field or the forest or on the side of
the road, are not actually deer, hence the name they
might have at that bends funny eyes that seemed too sentient.

(01:32:04):
You might catch one walking like a person on two
hind hoofs, anything like that. I know, you see you
shaking your head, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this non human
person came to me over the course of me writing
this book and said, hey, I have something juicy for you,

(01:32:26):
and told me essentially that story. Of course, I had
dramaticized it a bit and I gave it a wicked
harsh ending to kind of get a point across. But
this non human person said that sometimes for sport, especially
if someone is kind of a jerk, they like to
be on the side of the road and mess with

(01:32:49):
human drivers. And apparently one of the times they caught
someone who had aimed to kill them on the side
of the road, like run them over the car. This
human being allegedly was drunk and was just a mean person.
They wanted it to hurt this non human person. So
the non human person stood up on the hind legs,

(01:33:13):
as it was told to me, and spread out the
face and teeth and tentacles came out and scared the
human person so badly that the car flipped and the
person was quite quite injured and never psychologically the same.
But of course that might have been for the better.
But that's the lore behind that particular tail.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Wow, yeah, that sounds when I visualize that when you
said it split over the tentacles came out. There's an
old movie called The Thing, which was John carpentrred They
might have done that, but that's what I get the
visual of when the dog kind of bursted open and
split in half in his head. Yeah, it was definitely

(01:33:57):
a movie. Maybe somebody out there should watch for this Halloween.
The Thing, not the Redo, not the new one, it's
the original nineteen eighty one The Thing. Yeah, exactly, exactly, No,
you should, but you should if you get the time,
you should definitely go check that out because it depicts
exactly what you just described. But you know, looking at

(01:34:18):
this and that, that's awesome. So you know, we we
have these stories that captivate us. We have people who
simply dress up for the fun of it, just because
it's a fun time and you get candy. Let me
ask you this, Actually, while I'm talking about candy. What
is the last when you were a kid, if you've
ever trigger treated some people don't, what would have been

(01:34:41):
the last candy in your bag? Like, which is the
one that you really didn't want? The one you left
at the bottom of your back?

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Sweet tart? Oh what are they called? They come out
a little roll echoes? Oh not nechoes, honey, No, No,
they're they're little chalky tarts. They're like echoes.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
Oh it would have been sweethearts.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
Yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Would have been sweet tarts and warheads. Ah man, Yeah,
those would have been.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
Very last for me before I go to art? To
me is what would have been the one that you
what's the one that you used to trade with the
sibling or a cousin and you felt like you were
getting over every single time.

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
So the one that I gave away that people liked?

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Is that what you say?

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
That I am one one that you didn't like but
they liked, and you're like, oh, this is the steal
of the.

Speaker 5 (01:35:43):
Cidery butter fingers?

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
WHOA really?

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
Yeah, I think those things are awful and I don't
know why, but everybody always loved I mean that, I
guess maybe Bart Simpson helped to uh to popularize the butterfinger,
but I yeah, I couldn't stand them.

Speaker 5 (01:36:01):
That was that was the one for me.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
I'm over here looking at this comment from Tartar Saucer
that said, ain't deers and I've been laughing about it
the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
What was the last one, last candy at the bottom
of the bag you just try not to touch.

Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
You didn't touch, oh, try not to touch.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
It was usually like one of those unmarked you know,
granny candies that I don't even know what it was,
but you know you it didn't like the little it
was like the strawberry on the package or whatever bond
bond or something like that, or I thought you or
the taffies that would just come in like the wax
black you know, black paper orange.

Speaker 5 (01:36:40):
Yeah, no, I'm good dude.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
To man, so I'm glad you said that because I
was waiting the seals, like, let me see if any
of these are the and I have to say to
these the sweet tarts, I would eat them, but they
are the last like the last three things along with
the candy art to mans is talking about, which are
the tap he's in the black paper, in the brown paper,

(01:37:03):
those ones are always at the bottom. Also, historically, candy corn.

Speaker 5 (01:37:13):
Up, that's our favorite. That's one of our paper But see.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
That's the thing when we sit down as kids and
we pour all a candy and put it in that pile,
and where cousin is over there, brother, sister, sibling, and
they have their pile, and you're making deals, right, you're
doing deals here. So it's like, I'll give you my
candy corn for your Reese's pieces peanut butter cups. And

(01:37:37):
I had a cousin just like Tilly. It was just
like you both who love candy corn. And I'm like,
this is the steal of the century with this candy corn.
And I'm I'm feeling like I'm getting over So it's
awesome stuff. You know. I'm glad that you guys have
experienced that, because as we look today, there's not a
lot of kids to get to go out and trigger

(01:37:57):
treat nowadays. For whatever reason. I don't know why ites
change so much, but you know, I think a lot
of kids are kind of missing that that element of
Halloween that experienced there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Yeah, we think so too. We think it's a tragedy
so much so that we make time each year to
go trick or treating ourselves just in honor of the tradition.
And I know if that sounds really weird, but it's
an adult friendly place that allows it. We dress up
and have a good time, and families are there with
their their little ones trigger treating, and it's it's a

(01:38:30):
sight to behold. We think, and we hope that one
day that kind of magic will return to the earth.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
Yeah, because that's exactly what it is. It's definitely a magic.
Now in my time, which is a few years older
than you guys, but I would go out and trick
or treat and there would be hundreds of kids in
the streets, just full every corner, every turn, a lot
of kids. I was, you know, as a trigger treating myself.

(01:38:58):
I was able to see once a kind of grown
and I'm taking my own kid trigger treating. I started
to see those numbers dwindle, and then all of a sudden,
there was just no kids. I think we put candy
out last year and we didn't get a single kid
to come by the house, which was sad for me.
Is sad moment. We got to bring Halloween back, We

(01:39:19):
got to find a way to make it special for
the kids again, make it safe obviously, I think that
was probably one of the reasons why. But it also spooky,
you know, I think spooky is a big part of
the feeling that you're supposed to have during Halloween, and
you know, as long as it isn't harmful to someone,
I think it's something that we should try to also

(01:39:41):
bring back. What are your you know, what do you
guys plan on doing this Halloween? Do you have any
party plans or what are you guys gonna actually do?
Handout candy?

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Oh, we live a particular area that we live is
bunch of older folks. We yeah, we tend to hang
with I guess more of that older crowd. So it's
a very very quiet neighborhood with a lot of retirees
in it. But yeah, we as as she said, we
do go attend a larger Halloween event that Yeah, they

(01:40:19):
do essentially trick or treat stations and everybody you know,
can dress up in costume and go from spot to
spot and pick up candy and very safe place and
I think that's yeah, that's something that we definitely need
to I think as a society work more on is
creating these uh communities like, you know, safe communities where

(01:40:42):
kids can explore that sort of spooky, you know, other
worldly fantasy sort of thing, because I don't think it
helps them to have no contact with that sort of thing.
The you know of so many cultures and societies and
traditions of old celebrating, you know, earthly seasons, you know,

(01:41:06):
things major themes in life that I think the further
we get away from that, the more troubles we tend
to have psychologically and socially. And you're just you're seeing
more and more of that post COVID especially, So Yeah,
I think I agree with you, Rob. We need to
make make Halloween what it used to be, you know,

(01:41:29):
a safe, safe and fun place to explore that that
magical time.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
And you know, to answer your question more directly, Rob, Uh,
We're going to go to that party and then we
have a party stream on I think it's the evening
of November first or second over on the Paranormal Soup
Show with Jason Bland and his lovely co host Jamie

(01:41:55):
who has become a good friend of mine, and we're
going to dress up and have a lot of fun
over there. It'll be another deep conversation hopefully and maybe
we'll get into some extra spooky stuff outside of that, though,
we need to set aside a time, Honey soon where
we can just have our movie night, because we haven't
gotten to watch Hocus Focus, the bele Tis movies, nothing yet.

(01:42:17):
We got to watch Trick or Treat on the way
back from Ohio recently, ah, which fun fact, Ohio is
incredibly paranormal, incredibly haunted. That's where I had a lot
of my own encounters over the years, and that's also
the setting for all of the stories in the Trigger
Treat anthology movie. Interestingly enough, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Something about Ohio. Yeah, So if I had to think
of a spooky place around the world or around the
United States, We'll just keep the United States somewhere where
just encapsulates the Halloween feeling for me, and it would
probably be somewhere back South, and I'm thinking more of

(01:43:01):
like maybe New Orleans, there's some colonial would probably be
the spooky place to go. I will see. So the
the the adults Trigger Treaty, what kind of candy are
they giving you?

Speaker 5 (01:43:17):
Yeah? All types?

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
All type yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
I mean are they giving you king size bars or
what do you getting? A little?

Speaker 5 (01:43:26):
I don't think they're kings.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
No, I don't think they're king size, but they're they're
they're more than the little uh well weight.

Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
Are they the fun size? I think that's.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Actually the fun size. Yeah, and Rob, I find it
really fascinating that you were talking about New Orleans, Louisiana,
because that's where I set the story of jack O Lantern,
because of how paranormal that place is, and it's it's
my goal one year to go there and experience Halloween

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for myself wandering about.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
And a secondary location that we have visited Salem.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
Salem, Yes, yes, yes, Salem. And actually that's let me
go ahead and read something from Salem.

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
There was we had a few stories that we were
going to cover. We're out of time, so I'm gonna
at least bring up the ghosts of Salem and the
Sleepy Hollow. So the ghosts of Salem. I have a
little story here. It says the couplestone streets of Salem
hold the echoes of its just dark past. During the
infamous witch Trials of sixteen ninety two, innocent lives were

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taken amid panic and superstition. Today visit today, visitors describe
seeing fleeting shadows slipping between gravestones in the old Bearing
Point Cemetery. Some have heard faint weeping near the witch House,
where interrogations once took place. On crisp moonlit October nights,

(01:44:56):
tour guides speak of sudden cold spots and disembodied whispers
that seem to follow the living. Locals say the spirits
of the accused and condemned wander still replaying their final
moments in a town forever haunted by its own history,
which would be Salem. And they burned a lot of

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people that they thought were witches did probably weren't witches essentially.
I mean, I'm pretty sure they burned some witches, but
most of them were not witches. So how evil is that?
How evil of the history is that?

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
Yeah, And I can definitely attest We were there for
a ghost tour of that area, And while I did
not see, and I don't think Tilly saw anything in specific,
the feeling that air is incredibly dense, feeling and thick.
I mean, I'm not one for, you know, perceiving the

(01:45:55):
paranormal quite on the level that Tilly is, but even
somebody like me, who is not that perceptive, was able
to just I mean feel the age and the heaviness
of that area from what had happened there. So for
anybody that is into the paranormal, I would say definitely

(01:46:16):
go just check it out, just to feel what that
feels like. Maybe maybe be mindful and respectful of what
you are visiting and inviting when you go, but it's
definitely worth checking out.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
You are you are misremembering one portion. There was something
that happened on the ghost Walk.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
Oh that's right for you. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
You remember the full context, but we were on the
ghost Walk and there was a semi transparent man dressed
in really old clothes. He was just standing under a
tree in one of the little corner graveyards next to
a church, and he was just watching our group. And

(01:47:03):
I was looking at him because I couldn't tell in
the light if it was just the light playing off
of white clothing that someone was wearing, or if I
was seeing a ghost, because I don't tend to see
human ghosts. If I get any mediumship contact from human beings,
it's it's usually farther in the veil. So he saw

(01:47:24):
me staring and he was like, what are you looking at?
And I said, I'm sorry, I was telepathically commuting. I
just said I'm sorry. I didn't realize. And he said
that he was just there watching and enjoying the group
because this particular tour leader was not a fan of him,

(01:47:47):
he said, and he said that he knew it. He
said that he knew that he was kind of a
jerk in life, but that he was still there spending
time because this was his place. And he said that
he had respect for this leader because this tour leader
never disparaged him the way that the previous tour leaders had.
And then the tour leader started talking about this guy

(01:48:11):
in particular and said that he had run off the
previous tour leader and that he tended to torment people
who spoke poorly about him.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
And that Giles Corey was that the guy that was
pressed to death.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
I don't remember who it was. You know, it was
a long time ago that we went there, and it
was such a brief interaction and I was just shocked
at what was unfolding. But you know, the tour leader
that I'm talking about, he was speaking very objectively, very calmly, coolly,
and not emotionally, but he had shared that story about

(01:48:46):
the last tour leader being pushed, scratched and run off
by this guy that I stopped standing there and he
said that he's not going to be at peace for
a very long time, and that all he wants is
to watch people's stories unfold and to maybe kind of
not be treated so horribly. I found that very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
That is crazy. I gotta go to Salem to feel
that feeling as well. The arts to me talk is
talking about I would imagine I could, I could tell
what that that must feel like. Just misery and just yeah,
I don't know, some dark, some dark, messy stuff. Yeah,
but I did want to let me read this week too,
did you guys? I know you guys. We talked last

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time about the Bell Witch well when you were here,
So let me kind of go over that story real
quick for the audiences. In the early eighteen hundreds, this
is in Tennessee, apparently the Bell Witch hunting and the
early eighteen hundreds, the Bell family lived peacefully in Adams, Tennessee,
until unexplained events began to plague their farmhouse. Strange scratching

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and knocking sounds filled the knights, and objects moved on
their own. The entity later called the Bell which spoke
in multiple voices, sang hymns in recited sermons. She seemed
to harbor a particular hatred for John Bell, tormenting him
relentlessly with threats and physical assaults. Neighbors witnessed these terrifying phenomena,

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and the witch gain or notoriety for her chilling predictions
that often came true. In eighteen twenty, John Bell died
under mysterious circumstances, and the Witch claimed responsibility, laughing and
celebrating his death. Local folklore says that on quiet autumn nights,
the faint sounds of her mocking voice can still be
heard from the Old Bill Farm. What do you guys

(01:50:38):
know about the or do you have any intimate relation
to the Bell Witch? Or have you been to the
location or any of that?

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Do you want me to go first? You want to
be yah for me?

Speaker 5 (01:50:53):
Personally, I.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
Tend not to do too much research into the paranormal
because my policy is whatever I experience, I don't want
it to be biased by whatever I've heard. So the
Bellwitch is not something that I know much about, but
I know Tilly does.

Speaker 8 (01:51:06):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Yeah, I draw a lot of parallels between the bell
Witch and certain you could say demonic cases that I've
worked before. And then also there are a lot of
similarities with Jeff the Talking Mongoose, and although we've never
been to the location, those stories certainly still linger within
the human and societal consciousness and context, so they remain

(01:51:32):
something to I think truly set a certain standard for
paranormal research. And I think too that if humankind were
to return to the so called simpler times, we'd have
more stories like this, more experiences like this, more experiences
with the Domavoi and the House Brownies, and then other

(01:51:54):
perhaps elemental or so called demonic, non human people, and
I think that they're just waiting to come out again.
It just depends all on the human party involved. Aside
from that, though, I have my thoughts and I have
my theories about the Bell Witch, but that would be

(01:52:16):
a whole other show on its own to get into
the psychology. If, however, you want to read something quite similar,
I would highly recommend that you check out my new
article in the October issue of Eerie Expedition's magazine. I'm
a writer for them over there. I run a blog
and I write for the magazine. But in Eerie Expedition's

(01:52:36):
magazine for the October Halloween issue. I talk about Jeff
the talking Mongoose from my exorcist point of view, and
it's highly similar to the Bell Witch, And of course
I don't want to spoil everything, but yeah, it all
depends on perspective, I might.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Say, and being that those two things are those two topics,
which is just happened to be just the ones that
I picked. So that's actually a great way to kind
of go out on a witch like vibe here and
then ask the question which can lead us into a
whole other show, like what is a witch like? If
we can dive into that. So we have, I mean,

(01:53:16):
and it seemed like at the end of every show
we figure out other things that we could do, and
it sounds like this will probably be what we'll do
for the next show. So I'd love to have you
guys back more often, right and kind of just because
I like you guys together. You like the new Ed
and Lorraine Warren of the Phenomena Paranormal World right now,

(01:53:36):
so I'm and you're a power couple. So once again,
I appreciate you guys. We have your socials in the
chat here, we have about ten seconds. If you want
to say anything to the.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Audience, Yes, I would like to say when it comes
to my biological rotational acquisition theory, I did a show
about that back in twenty twenty three and it's on
the Weird Walk Home channel. You might want to check
that out. It's a thumbnail that has to do with
my little Pony. It's a little misleading, but it gets

(01:54:06):
into tolfas and then the B R A T and
I think a lot of you guys would really enjoy
that episode.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
You heard it right here, and make sure you guys
go right on over to support the Weird Walk Home.
We will be right back after this break to the
right frequency. All right, we are clear Toile and Art.
Thank you so much again. We'll email and let's set

(01:54:33):
up the next one.

Speaker 5 (01:54:35):
Beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
All right, thank you, talk to guys soon. Have a
happy Halloween. Take care all right, Do do do do

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do do do.

Speaker 9 (01:57:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
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Speaker 9 (01:57:28):
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boom boom.

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
All right, everybody, welcome back Space out Radio to after
hours radio show. We are in after our number three.
We want to thank our guest again, Killian Artemis or
Tomas Treadwell for joining us. We're getting ready to join
our three right now, let's go all right, everybody, welcome
back space Out Radio and after Hours radio show. We
are now and after our number three, the third and

(02:00:07):
final hour of the show. We want to thank our
guests once again, Tilly and our Tomaeus Treadwill for being
auso coming in sharing some Halloween stories, also some injuries
from the book tells of the rip. We do have
the links for everything right here in the description. Make
sure you go ahead check that out if you missed
any of that conversation, hoping the archives, YouTube dot Com,

(02:00:28):
forward Slash and spaced Out Radio. As we go ahead
and get ready to jump into some Steve Stockton tells
until mister person Mysteries is once again. We appreciate and
love that he is a part of this show and
we are forever indebted, Steve, were forever indebted. And here
we go.

Speaker 10 (02:00:45):
Welcome to Tales I'm Told and Missing Person's Mysteries on
spaced Out Radios after ours. My name is Steve Stockton,
and I'm here to take you on a journey of mysteries,
legends and true stories. Come join me on this strange
adventure of tales I'm told and missing person mysteries. Welcome

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to the Missing and the Faye Part four. Believe it
or not, there is one place in the United States
that has had so many Fay encounters that, to those
of us who are interested in and researching these topics,
could possibly give this place the name the ferry capital
of the United States. What mysterious and unknown woodland or

(02:01:28):
forest am I speaking of here?

Speaker 1 (02:01:30):
Well?

Speaker 10 (02:01:31):
Neither would you believe? Detroit, Michigan. Now this is not
just a couple of sightings by new agent intellectuals trying
to push the fairies are real and can live in
urban areas two agenda. For centuries, there have been reports
of gnomes and other species of little people in the
Detroit area. Some of them date back even before the

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Europeans settled here, so basically before it was even named Detroit,
possibly before the state of Michigan even exist. Is it
something about the land there? Did the settlers intrude on
some magical place where the veil between our world and
theirs is so much more thin? Let's look at some
of these Fay encounters and see if we can figure

(02:02:13):
it out. The origins of our first story lie within
the Ottawa tribe. These are the natives who were living
on the land before the English and French settlers came
in and took it over. This particular encounter tells of
the red Dwarf, as the Natives call them. These little
people are just as mischievous as their brother and sister species,

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and can be just as mean and evil. However, and
it's interesting, as it always is when dealing with a faith,
that this particular type of faith are the protectors of
the land and the caretakers of the earth, extremely powerful
nature spirits who are most likely provoked by a colonization
of any sort that doesn't recognize the fay and respect

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the land itself. When the French settlers came into that area,
they brought with them their own legends of the Fay.
Theirs were called luton, which actually have their origins in
Nordic folklore. However, the French seemed to believe very much
in these devious little tricksters who went about playing pranks
on the settlers and anyone they could get a good

(02:03:16):
shot at. They dislike humans and even displayed at times
some behaviors which we would consider it to be similar
to the effects of having a poultergeist or noisy spirit
in our home. So suffers to say, these fay used
their magic and enjoyed doing so. They are very mean
spirited and sometimes even downright evil. So as the French

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calledizes the land there where Detroit is now, and mixed
with the natives, these two legends ended up combining. The
Europeans came in and with their old legends of the Fay,
which were that these creatures were more than merely mysterious
forest entities who played mean spirited pranks, but rather malevolent
harbingers of doom, chaos, and destruction. The founder of Detroit,

(02:04:04):
Antoine de la mothe Cadillac, on March tenth, seventeen oh one,
decided to throw a party. During the party, as he
was greeting his guests, he noticed some people he didn't
invite and who definitely weren't dressed for the occasion. One
was a woman who looked more like a fortune teller
and had a cat on her shoulder. She immediately took

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his palm and told him that while he was destined
to start a great city, it would be a place
of much violence and bloodshed for ages to come. The
old Hag also gave a warning to deer Antoine ale
homage too and heed the Red Dwarfs and do not,
for any reason upset them. She went on to explain
that to do so would be his downfall. Now. Antoine,

(02:04:48):
being a modern man for his age, didn't believe in
such things as fortune tellers, palm readings, and fake creatures,
and laughed at the woman and kicked her out of
his party. He had removed quite violently, in fact, and
went on about his days without giving even a second
thought to her warning about not upsetting the Fay, who
were already inhabiting the area he was trying to colonize
and turn into the greatest settlement the New World had

(02:05:09):
seen so far. One night, Antoine decided to take one
of his mistresses for a walk around his new city.
As the couple were walking, they overheard some of the
settlers talking amongst themselves and soft to eavesdrop. The group
were talking about how they had seen Le Petit de rouge,
or the little Red Dwarfs, and that they felt the

(02:05:31):
city was now doomed to fail and falter once again.
Antoine scoffed and was even amused by the stories which
were growing by the day of the people settling the
colone catching sight of these little people, or fayfolk, as
we have come to collect, and we call and know them.
Not long after this event, however, Antoine Cadillac himself had

(02:05:52):
his own encounter with what he described as a deformed
dwarf like creature, covered in blackish red fur and possessing
beady eyes. The creature's face was fierce, and its eyes
piercing in blood red. It had crooked and disgusting teeth.
When it looked at him and sneered, he took a
club that was standing nearby and bashed the creature about

(02:06:13):
the head, but it just laughed and ran off. He
allegedly had this particular encounter in his own grand home.
After this, so the legend has it, Antoine de la
Mouth Cadillac lost everything. He died alone and penniless, a
ruined man. The city named after him left with a

(02:06:34):
kind of strange curse, just as the old hag fortune
teller had predicted, would Detroit be the same today if
he had simply heeded her warning and given respect to
the red dwarfs. Now why we'll never know, but it
is said that they still roam around the city to
this very day, and sightings haven't become more scarce since
the seventeen hundreds when Antoine had first envisioned the settlement.

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These self same creatures, or perhaps one of the same
species anyway, who look exactly the same, was seen that
same year repeatedly by a farmer in the area. The
farmer led to the thing would peer in his windows
at night terrify his family. It would also stalk him
as he plied his fields and tended to his animals. Likewise,

(02:07:18):
his family and young children especially weren't immune to the
creature's torment. Another farmer around the same time said this
same beast looking thing would stop on the roof of
his barn at all hours of the day, especially at night,
just to rile up the horses and cause the tired
family great strife. It would steal his chickens as well.

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On July twenty third, seventeen sixty three, two hundred British
troops had amassed on the outskirts of the city to
surprise a group of native rebels who had defied the
post war policies. The Britters should put into place for
the settlers and Native Americans in the area alike. This
apparently made them the enemy, and the troops were prepared
to surprise attack them during the night while they were

(02:07:59):
on god and asleep. This was during the insurgent uprising,
which is known to this day as pontiacs Wore. This
was of course named for the fierce leader of the
Ottawa tribe, Chief Pontiac. The war that this led to
was extremely violent, with the armies on each side killing
and attacking incant civilians on the streets and in the villages,

(02:08:20):
pillaging homes and slaughtering women, infants, and children who had
nothing to do with anything and no rights to do
with anything even if they wanted to. It was total
chaos and bloodshed, and that Red Dwarfs didn't go without
noticing all that blood being spilled on their sacred land.
They were seen by hundreds of people during this time,
soldiers and Native Americans alike. They were spotted sitting on

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the banks of a nearby creek where the bloody battle
took place. This creek, which ran so red with blood
it was still to this day known as Bloody Run,
and the Little Red Dwarfs were dancing and celebrating. They
were literally laughing and shouting with glee. Not rooting for
one side or the other, mind you, just reveling in
the death and carnage of the war before them.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
Their demeanor was.

Speaker 10 (02:09:07):
Described as elated and joyous. They were even witnesses dancing
amongst the corpses of the dead and swimming in the
bloody creak. These little evil creatures were celebrating. The bloodshed
flashed forward now during the Great Detroit Fire of eighteen
oh five, which burned most of the city to the crown.
The red Dwarfs were sighted by hundreds of witnesses at

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that time too. In the days leading up to the fire,
they were seen by many witnesses throughout the city. Most
of them didn't even know what they were seeing. By
the time the eighteen hundreds rolled around, most people had
forgotten about the city's founder in the warning of the
Old Hag fortune teller. While the disastrous fire was still
blazing and people were dying left and right, all around,

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witnesses reported seeing evil little red men dancing around in
the flames and on top of the charred corpses. They
were seen in the aftermath of the War of eighteen twelve,
all the way up into modern times, including the race
riots in the nineteen sixties and the extreme desolation and
abandoned buildings that occupied Detroit to this day. Now, let's

(02:10:13):
move out of the motor city and into some more
desolate areas of the world and see what other encounters
and species we can uncover and perhaps learn a bit
about in case the needs should ever rise that we
need to be knowledgeable about the fae and perhaps what
to do should we come upon one or several. We
should already know that there are thousands of species and
hundreds of realms. When a person is kidnapped by a fairy,

(02:10:35):
their fate depends on so many things. We always talk
to these videos about the missing in the woods and
the face responsibility for such abductions and even the death
of the missing in question. But what about the people
who have come back that survived. What are their stories like,
What do they remember, if anything, about where they were

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and maybe even why? What happens when the missing end
up deceased and people suspect a faye to be the culprit,
how do you explain that to the police. In nineteen
oh nine, a woman in Ireland named Annie McIntyre was
abducted by fairies allegedly and had quite a story to tell.

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She was said to have been born on Halloween in
eighteen thirty nine, which makes her more prone, some say,
to being able to see and possibly interact with many
supernatural realms, including those of the faithfolk. She is said
to have had a lifelong obsession with but an immense
respect for the fae. She claims this is because on

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the night of her birth she was abducted by the fay,
and had it not been for her brother happening upon
the celebrations, she would have most certainly become one of them.
No changeling was left behind, and though no one is
sure why she was left alone on the night of
her birth to be stolen, here's what she claimed until
the day she died. On that night of Halloween in

(02:12:00):
eighteen thirty nine, fairies crept into her home mere minutes
after she was born and stole away with her wrapped
in her bedclothes and a small sheet her mother had
made for as the fairies were bringing her to the
nearest circle or portal to one of their realms they
were celebrating dancing and singing under the moonlight. They were
cheering that they had gotten away without being seen, and

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the couple who were the ones who would be raising
the child were being hoisted on the other little people's backs.
It was a grand celebration. While they moved towards the portal. However,
Annie's brother was coming back from a friend's house walking
through the woods and heard the commotion, the flutes and
music being played, and celebrations happening in the woods right

(02:12:42):
behind his house. He went to investigate and claims he
saw dozens of little people carrying off his infant sister,
who he knew had just been born that very day. Allegedly,
he took his bible, which he just happened to be carrying,
and tossed it right into the group of fairies they meeting,
at least, set the infant down and scattered most of them,

(02:13:02):
simply disappearing into thin air. He scooped his baby sister
up into his arms and brought her back to the
family home. Annie's mother and family were so overjoyed with
her return that they had a huge celebration themselves and
doted over her so much as she was almost lost
to them. Forever. There were many precautions set into place

(02:13:23):
that night in that village, which have lived on throughout
the centuries, to sure that babies would no longer be
so easily swept up and taken by fairies in the night,
iron bars being hung above the crib, the crib itself
being made entirely of iron, pitting the infants night clothes
to the pillow or mattress of the crib, sprinkling the
child with holy water before bed and throughout the day

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if they should be left alone for even a second.
There were so many ways thought of to protect infants
and children back then from a fay abduction. Now, these
precautions didn't always work, though, but for the most part
they did, or at least they seemed to. Maybe it
would be wise for those of us in modern times
who believe in and have respect for such things, to

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take notice of and heed the warnings and advice.

Speaker 8 (02:14:08):
Of preventive measures.

Speaker 10 (02:14:11):
Instead, though, we buy acute little kids to build their
own ferry gardens and sit alf totems on the shelf
at Christmas time, which, unbeknownst to most people, only provokes
the all mental spirits and invite them into your home
to do you even more harm. Aside from the brownie
species of the fae, we have yet to find another
who is inherently good and not known for any evil

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intentions or ill will toward the human race, has plaid
down their homes in the forest and disrespected them by
portraying them as goofy little scantily clad women flying around
sprinkling magic into little kids eyes just to play with them,
or men just to days and seduce them. Maybe we
should give them more credit and be more wise in
their ways. Then maybe they'll stop abducting not only our children,

(02:14:56):
but our hunters, our campers, our hikers, our sightseers from
the beautiful and majestic lands and national parks and national forests.
That's the faithfolk guard so tightly and try so hard
to keep us from destroy.

Speaker 1 (02:15:10):
Whoa Tales Untold Mister person Mysteries. Steve Stockton, once again,
awesome stuff and it fits right on into the spooky
season that we're in. We do appreciate you, surf a
beauty part of us face our radio and now after
ours radio show, we are going to go in and
get into our final segment of the now one of

(02:15:30):
the final segments here you know what time it is.
It's the after Hours wrap up with the guy Drew Banky.
This time we're gonna bring him in with the little
spooky music. Here we go, let's go. Oh yeah, the

(02:16:05):
after Hours wrap up and we have none other than
the man Drew Banky in the building. How you been, sir, yo,
yo yo?

Speaker 8 (02:16:14):
How's it going.

Speaker 1 (02:16:14):
I've been great, man, I've been doing I've been I
don't know if your ear has been burning, man, but
I've been talking about you a lot, man, you know,
discussing things with family, and you know, there's a lot
of things that we talked about a year ago behind
scenes that kind of came into fruition and some things
that and I'm like, I'm like, Okay, Drew Banky is

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the man. He's the man. We got to listen to
everything Drew says, because I'm telling you things are coming
in in the s having visions and things of that nature.
So good stuff, dude. I was definitely promoting you. But
we're in this spooky season. Man. We had, you know,
not been here recently because there has been some help

(02:16:59):
things going on in family. And we are back here though,
and right before Halloween a few days before Halloween. How
are you feeling, man? Are you doing anything special for
the Halloween season? And we're yet.

Speaker 8 (02:17:14):
Just I'm gonna take the kids trigger treat in town.
I think it's it's coming up Friday. They got some
trigger treating in.

Speaker 1 (02:17:20):
Town a little and.

Speaker 8 (02:17:23):
Yeah, having a little community gathering here in Crustone. So yeah,
it's about it that we've already took them to the
water park last weekend. My mother in law was in
town and they can it's like a Great Wolf Lodge,
So it's like one where you can have like you know,

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as a hotel there and around this time, like every
every night on the weekends they have like Halloween seeing
parties and and and stuff like that. So the kids
already got to dress up. Hawk Dress is a costume
this year as Spider Man and classic Spider Man, and

(02:18:09):
it's you gotta differentiate, you got, yes, yeah, there's there's
different Spider Man. Now there's a bunch of different Spider Man,
so you gotta know which one. And uh Ember's mini mouths.

Speaker 1 (02:18:21):
So okay, okay, okay, okay, Well are you getting into it?
Are you putting anything on or getting into the spirit. No,
you know, I'm just.

Speaker 8 (02:18:31):
Going as myself a prophet, So okay, a modern day prophet.
That's what I'm here.

Speaker 1 (02:18:38):
Whatever, Hey, look and does been a word? But I'm
telling you experience after experience after this, sparent, I'm starting
to believe you, Drew Banky. I'm just like, man, there's
something to do. Believe me, Drew. I'm telling you. I
talk about your live bro, and I think you're really
connected to something that's going that that that source out there. Man,

(02:18:58):
I think there's more to the story here. So you know,
we had our guests here.

Speaker 8 (02:19:04):
Interesting times for sure, interesting time. So yeah, I think
I wouldn't say I got anything. I don't think I
got anything figured out. But do I have a lot
of positive things going for me?

Speaker 1 (02:19:15):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (02:19:16):
And our pre condition dreams real, yes for sure. It
is manifestation real, yes for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:19:27):
You know.

Speaker 8 (02:19:29):
So that's that I'm getting back into more you whippie
ceremonies and uh getting set up to do another UH
ceremony with Chief bear Cross in November. So that's moving
that's moving forward. It's gonna it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (02:19:47):
And I don't know if you caught this earlier, you
know we had Tilly and R Tomas back again here tonight,
and I love them.

Speaker 8 (02:19:54):
I was, man, I was on with Tilly. I don't
know if she ever really said episode or not, but
I did an interview with her on some on a
while ago.

Speaker 1 (02:20:06):
Yeah, they're They're a great couple, man. They really uh
compliment each other as far as you know their presentation.
So I love it. I love having the conversations. And
they mentioned something I don't know if you were here
to hear the piece where they talked about ayahuasca and
being you know, one of the things and we always
talk about that being one of the tools that you

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can use if you don't have the natural abilities to
kind of allow you to see into these other realms
or have peaks into these other dimensions. So I knew
it was something that you would be that you would
love to hear. But if you were to elaborate on
that and explain how how that you know, give your
give your explanation on being able to see into these realms,

(02:20:51):
you know, using something like ayahuasca.

Speaker 8 (02:20:56):
Okay, So the easiest way to is it start off
like what we're seeing and hearing, like all of our
senses we're only seeing like a very very like the
light spectrum that's that's available during daytime, night even at nighttime,
there's a light spectrum that's available, and we're seeing only
just a small fraction of that. You know, there's there's

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there's stuff way outside, uh of that's visible that we
can't see. And that's say that seems true and goes
for hearing and all the other senses. So just that
fact alone, you know, gives credence to that there's you
can see other other things. So what I believe happens

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and what's you know, what is kind of the consensus
with psychedelics, especially like ayahuasca. Ayahuasca is you know, a
disassociative psychedelic, which meaning at certain doses it will take
you into a totally disassociated state where you are literally
forget who you are for a while and and uh

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in turn remember who you really are, like who your
who your eternal self is, and how you're how you're
connected to source and how energy flows on all these
other things. But what it does it opens up and
allows you to see a larger a larger piece of
the light spectrum, of the auditory spectrum, of the old

(02:22:22):
factory spectrum, like all these things we're only seeing a
very very small percentage of it. So so we think
we're seeing all the reality when it when in reality,
we're seeing just a small part of what's really happening
on all different levels. And we have senses outside of
our five senses that we're starting to realize. You know,

(02:22:43):
telepathy tapes are becoming wildly popular, and you know other
things or you know, we have telekinesis, there's there's other
things outside of telepathy that we're going to start learning about,
and we are learning about slowly, but surely it's not
really surely. It's moving pretty quickly at this point. But

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you know, this is the awakening we're going through. It
we're living in and literally we're living in a prophetic time,
you know, And I'm not saying that lightly at all,
Like I've had conversations that are very deep that with
Native elders that we are living in a prophetic time
right now.

Speaker 1 (02:23:24):
I can agree. I can feel it. I could definitely
feel it. And you know, there was when when you
were just talking about some senses being activated and awakened,
there was a lady, I don't know if you saw this,
And actually we'll talk more about this after the break.
We were thirty seconds here. There was a lady I
saw recently on I think it was a Danny Jones

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podcast where she was doing some level of psionics out
of it is. All I could say is she was
putting on these blindfolds. She was completely covering her eyes.

Speaker 8 (02:23:56):
And that's telepathy tapes.

Speaker 1 (02:23:58):
That okay, so let's talk more about that after the break,
because it was simply amazing.

Speaker 8 (02:24:06):
I can't get her on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:24:08):
Okay, then we need to do that. That's definitely that
was gonna be the next thing. I definitely would like
to be able to have her on. What she was
demonstrating was pretty amazing, and I think it's something that
should be looked further into. We're gonna go ahead and
go into this final break of the night. We got
Drew Banky that hours wrap up sitting in right now
talking spinning game right here to you live on the

(02:24:31):
half Hours radio show. We'll be right back after the break.
Make sure you don't go anywhere, come back if you do,
and we'll see you right back here in a minute.
Bump up, all right, we are clear, clear clear, and yeah,

(02:24:54):
so telepathy tapes, that's what those were. Okay, let's definitely
talk about those. Yeah, outside of those, I have one yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:25:01):
One contact. I'm one contact away. I can contact her.
I'm only one contact away from from from that woman.

Speaker 1 (02:25:08):
Okay, cool, cool, cool cool.

Speaker 8 (02:25:12):
Yeah she's gonna be Yeah, I'm only one contact away.

Speaker 1 (02:25:19):
Okay. We well, we still have some open spots up
and trying to fill them in. We have some a
couple of days, a few days open still for November,
see if she if she be willing to come in
because if what she's doing is real and I don't
have any reason to believe what she's doing is not real,
and I don't really We'll talk about this again, I

(02:25:39):
guess after the break. But it's just mind blowing. When
I saw this, I was like, whoa, Okay, this proves it.
This disproves that that other sense that we thought that
we have, that some people say that they have. This
is being demonstrated right in front of everybody. And I'm like,
there there is no tricks to this. What world look at?

Speaker 8 (02:26:01):
Yeah, well, what I say, like six to nine months ago,
like that this is the time of the awakening is
really not like and and disclosure is not about like
ships appearing on the White House lawn. It's about we
are going through a human awakening, like we are going

(02:26:22):
through an evolutionary shifting consciousness, which includes a shift in abilities.
Like it's not it's not a flash is gonna happen.
We're gonna wind up on another plan or another dimension
or another time we are. We are tuning in and
unlocking things that's been dormant in us for a while

(02:26:42):
and they were awake of before at one time. You know,
this thing, this is not the first time they've been
away that this is not the first time that we've
been through this, just like all cycles go. We've been
up and down, up and down, and senses and abilities
have been turned off, turned on, lane dormant, we've had

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we've had extrasensory perception, and but it's all part of
the process.

Speaker 1 (02:27:07):
Right.

Speaker 8 (02:27:08):
It's it's fun to remember, right, it's fun to it's fun.
It wouldn't be fun if we were just never, never forgot.
So you know, we're talking about eternity. This goes on
forever like so we have to we have to keep
ourselves entertained in a way. But each time we learn,

(02:27:28):
we learn new things because we're going through different experiences.

Speaker 1 (02:27:31):
So and here's uh, this is some of what I
was going to talk talk about with arts Man. It's
until earlier is out. You know when we talk about
these dimensions, right, and we talk about veils, the way
that i'm it may be people to see it differently
in their mind, but the way that I see it
is a curtain essentially, like a literal veil, like a

(02:27:56):
thin curtain, and like we're on this side there on
that side. But then, okay, we talked about possessions in
like exorcisms, and you know, I asked a question on
is that something potentially that's that that spirit or energy
is a local energy, like it's right here in front
of you, you just can't see it and it just

(02:28:16):
enters into you. Or is it more of you know,
this entity is reaching out from behind that veil and
kind of reaching into your like maybe consciousness in order
to possess your vessel, right, And I don't know if
that's a thing or not, but i'd love to know
what you think about that as we have about a

(02:28:38):
minute left.

Speaker 8 (02:28:40):
I don't know, I think there's you know, I think
there's ways of things tappen. Like I said, I don't
really believe in good or bad. I think everything has
a purpose, you know, because at one time, you know,
everything that happened to me in Iraq was totally horrible,
and then all of a sudden it just become a
blessing when I realized it all led to where I'm

(02:29:00):
at now. So that being said, like you know, weezy
boards are, you know, is like doorways. You know, people say,
you know, channeling is a doorway.

Speaker 1 (02:29:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (02:29:13):
It's all about perception. I think that you know, there
is free will, so to let anything like that happen
to help manifest any negative spirit, I think it's I
don't think it's just happening to people. I think there's
there's there's something else going on that's they're kind of
welcoming in in a way or unknowingly welcoming. And you

(02:29:39):
know that that could be.

Speaker 1 (02:29:40):
So I don't know, and we'll talk more about that.
We have about fifteen seconds left. It gave the party
line analogy earlier as well, and I think party line
analogy was close to it. But I think more like
you know, back in the day, used to be able
to on a phone call with someone and then your
lines cross. But we're coming back, right now here we go.
All right, everybody, welcome back spaced Out Radio app Hours

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Radio show where on the back half of the third hour,
which means this thing is almost over with sitting here
with Drew Banking going over on n a half hours
wrap up, getting this a real good conversation. Also, we
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(02:30:25):
spaced Out Radio get into some of the spooky stuff
that we talked about here tonight, being that it is
the spooky season and going back into what we were
talking about before the break. So you confirmed for me
then I was explaining to you saw a video of
the Danny Jones podcast or saw this lady that was
literally putting on blindfolds covering her eyes multiple layers, okay,

(02:30:50):
and they even she brought some with her, but they
actually used some in house things to try to make
sure they weren't trick that she could see through them,
and she was able to see things behind her head
and shapes and things of that nature, and it would
it would appear that she was tapping into this other ability,

(02:31:12):
this cynic ability. You said, yes, that's the telepathy tapes,
So let's talk about that.

Speaker 8 (02:31:20):
Such. The mother of the auto I can't remember if
her name is is Deliah or her daughter's name Delilah,
But yeah, I can get in contact with her, for sure,
I can. I can definitely get in contact for her
with her and get her on here. She would love
to be she would love to share the story. But yeah,
so her she was had experiences when she was a kid,

(02:31:45):
but she also she had a kid that has that
has autism. So through you know, like all of us,
we have moments when we were kids and we can
look back on that. Maybe that was extrasensorary, that was
you know, talking to imaginary friends, this, that and the other,
and then it shuts off. So her story is like

(02:32:07):
very similar to that. And then later on life she
had a daughter that had nonverbal autism and basically through necessity,
you know, started experiencing things. First it was from her daughter.
Like I can't remember how her daughters first started speaking.

(02:32:30):
She's she's partially verbal now, but at the time this happened,
she was nonverbal, and I think she was typing through
a letter board where she was like spelling out things
through a letterboard, pointing at letters and then spelling them out,
and she started talking about her mother's dreams, like so,

(02:32:50):
her daughter was talking about dream her dreams that her
mother was having at night, like so her mom was
having dreams that she was meeting her daughter in dreams
and talking to her. And then the next day her
daughter was continuing the conversation or referencing that conversation in
the dream in waking state through the letter board. And

(02:33:12):
it took her a while to really believe what's happening.
And then finally, you know, it's after a while, it
just become really clear. It hit her and then she
started communic like openly communicating in dreams with her daughter,
and then it manifested out from there where she started practicing.

(02:33:34):
I think I can't remember what it was. I think
her daughter said that she can she doesn't have to see,
she doesn't have to have her eyes to see her something.
I don't know what it was, but something, something led
her to I think from the dream conversations with her
daughter led her to starting to be blind and folding
for large amounts of time, and that turned into her

(02:33:58):
seeing without her eyes and basically understanding that you can see,
you don't need your eyeballs in your head to see.
She was seeing through other cells in her body and
basically picking up vibrations and processing information in a different
way to create an image in her head. So yeah,
she can do it now, you know, openly as she

(02:34:21):
did that contact end desert and then she was just
all on Dan Jones, I've just seen that. So it's
interesting that you saw it and we're talking about it now.

Speaker 1 (02:34:30):
It's good. Yeah, and it's amazing, you know, and I
want it to be true. I want it to be
so true. And I think they definitely, you know, Danny
Jones approached it sort of skeptically and kind of you know,
made sure they tried out different things to make sure
that this wasn't some sort of trick. And then for

(02:34:51):
her to still be able to do that after the
fact is just something that now, you know, I'm looking
for as this is happening and I'm watching it, I'm
looking for ways that this could not be true, Like, Okay,
she must be able to see somehow, there's no way
that she's just there's.

Speaker 8 (02:35:10):
She's she's had, she's done. I've seen too many live
interactions with her. That's just you know, and it's uh,
you know, they did it at Contact in the Desert.
It's a it's film. You can watch it. I think
you can look it up on YouTube. But they went
all the way out in the crowd, like like way
out into the crowd and and held up number, like

(02:35:31):
picked out someone from the crowd that they held you know,
they held up and wrote a number on a board
or something and you know, turning their backs even she
could she could see. So it's, uh, you know, it's
it can't even it can't even be shielded by like
the body or anything that say that she can see it.

(02:35:51):
And so you know, it's it's it's interesting, man, it's uh,
we're I say it all I see. I say every
almost every time I'm in the chair at this time
at night on this show. It's an interesting time we're
in and just accept it like it's I'm not talking
to you in particular, I'm just talking to the general
the general consensus. It's time to just accept us for

(02:36:14):
what it is like. And you know a lot of
stuff like you know, ET contact and stuff like that.
It's it's gonna have to be a one on one thing,
Like people ain't gonna believe until it happens to them
face to face, and you can talk about it all
the time, but you know, this stuff is precognition. Dreams

(02:36:35):
are real. People are talking about all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:36:37):
You know.

Speaker 8 (02:36:37):
They may label it as deja vu or things like
that to put a context on it, to make us
seem like not so real, like, but deja vu is
is nothing more than you know, precognition and or pre
cognition lots of times for me, it's pre cognition dreams.

(02:36:57):
Like I don't even realize I had the dream until
I'm in physical life and see something and then I
then I remember the dream, and then I then I
put I put it all together, and then I start
paying attention what's around me because there's a reason I
had a dream about it. So I'm on, I think,
I'm you know, and this is where I hope that
most of us go on this, Like I'm on the

(02:37:18):
next phase of it, like I've accepted that it happens, okay,
Like how can how can I use it to better
my life? And I think ultimately that's what it's there for,
because we're talking to ourselves in a state when we
can really absorb it more. It's it's hard to absorb it.
When we're in this real life. We fight and fight

(02:37:39):
for it. We watch shows like this and talk about
it for hours on end, trying to hash it out.
But when you're in that dream state, there's no explain anything.
It just makes sense, and then you come out of
it and try to put place it all together.

Speaker 1 (02:37:51):
Yeah, it's definitely. I think if it is what it
appears to be, which youlda, I don't see any way
that it can't be. For what I've seen, I just
can't see it being anything but what it was being
shown on television that she was able to do this,
And then for me, what that does is it It

(02:38:13):
made me. It was such a wild moment for me.
It was like, this will confirm so many other things. Dude,
we're talking about remote viewing, like the people that were
even on the fence for something like that, to say,
how could someone go outside of there and see something
somewhere else that's remote viewing. It just happens to be
in the same room, right, So it's it would for

(02:38:35):
it would confirm for a lot of people remote viewing.
Also the ability that human beings have the ability to
do telepathy on some sort of level, it opens up
it kind of validates that. And here's one of the
things that's kind of important to me is when you
have people who can do these things, whether it's remote

(02:38:56):
viewing like she can do or it, people need to
follow her lead and kind of step out there and
show the ability to do this. And I guess maybe
even Chris Bledsoe has sort of done that by doing
the C five stuff. But that's all I've been calling
for is like, hey, if you're a specialist in this area,
this is how you can help bring come out and

(02:39:18):
show the the ability and show that this is a
real thing live.

Speaker 8 (02:39:22):
If you can do it, do it like that. I've been.

Speaker 1 (02:39:24):
I've been. I've been.

Speaker 8 (02:39:25):
I've been screaming at for for a long time because
there's people out there that scared of like the backlash
from it, and and there's and ultimately like there's they're
ultimately questioning themselves, like because there's a big you know,
the imposter syndrome. I've said it before a million times.
The imposter syndrome is one of the worst things to

(02:39:47):
happen to the spiritual movement because there are so many
people out there with gifts and abilities that are coming
online and and and remembering and uh channeling and dreams
are coming about, but they're scared to talk about because
they're scared of backlash and they're not sure if it's
a if it's cultural of pope lay it, or if
they're if they're you know, if they're just appropriating native

(02:40:11):
culture or or teachings or things like that. Just there's
all types of things out there that that's holding us
back from it. But ultimately, if you know it's true,
share it, like and you know that's that's that's what
we're here to do, Like we're here to we're here
to figure it out. All of us has. All of
us has a little piece of the puzzle like none
of us has. None of us has the whole picture,

(02:40:33):
I don't think. But the beauty in it is it's
designed for us all to come together as a community
so we can figure this out.

Speaker 1 (02:40:42):
Definitely. And she was in a situation where she was
even stated herself that she was sometimes unsure of her
ability to be successful each and every time, and it
just seemed like when she kind of just let herself
be free in kind of open that it happened. It
just she she was right every time. And it's more

(02:41:04):
that I think that meditative state or whatever state you
have to put yourself in in order to be able
to do this, and you can speak more of that because,
like I said, I've seen it in yourself. And this
isn't just me pumping up with Drew Bank, but Drew,
Drew has done some things or it says some things
that that I don't know how you could have been
able to do this, And it just has opened my

(02:41:27):
eyes up. And I told him this, I tell him
all the time, and then you know, to also see
something like what she has done, it just really even
brings it more home for me that there is something
that people are doing now.

Speaker 8 (02:41:41):
I So the best way that I could, I could
tell you how to do it, and what what I
did in the beginning to get myself into the flow
state is literally closed my eyes and visualized the first
time holding my first child, like and try to remember

(02:42:01):
the delivery room and everything. And once once you can
get a couple of your senses to move. And it's
something about being in a heart center, in a heart
centered place like that, you know it might be if
you're not apparently you know, married, or the first time
that you you know, you met your true love or
anything anything that you've been in a total like blissed

(02:42:25):
out heartfelt moment. For me, it was like the first
time I hold my first kid, and really anytime the
first time I held it all of my kids was.
I can go back to any of those moments and
it'll bring me back into that that heartfelt moment. But
start to try to remember it. And if you try
to remember that moment less times, after a few like

(02:42:49):
a few seconds, fifteen, twenty seconds, thirty seconds, maybe a
minute of closing your eyes and remember it, you can
start to remember what was said in there, like what
the doctor said to you, like you know, how many
people were in there, like what it what it looked like,
because you're it's burnt into your memory, like that's like
that moment like cutting the court, you know, cutting the
cord on your first child for the first time. That

(02:43:12):
moment's burnt into your memory forever, and something about it
you can you can recall like everything about it, like
all your senses can start to remember it. So if
someone has never astral traveled or uh, you know, I
don't know if they don't believe in remote viewing, like

(02:43:37):
I believe this is how you remote remote view You
go to a heart center space and then you can
kind of go anywhere. But for me when I when
I started doing this, and I practice like going out
of my body. But you can go into that memory
like if you're if you're smelling, seeing and remembering, like
with two or three or four senses, up to five

(02:43:58):
senses in that moment, like what it what part of
you is actually in this moment?

Speaker 2 (02:44:04):
You know what?

Speaker 6 (02:44:05):
What what?

Speaker 8 (02:44:06):
What part of you is actually in the physical moment?
If you have your eyes closed and you can remember
what the smells were in the delivery room, what the
what the beeping was, what the you know what time
it was, was it sunny, was it cloudy out, how
many nurses were in there, how many doctors were in there?
You know what, what what they were talking about? If
if you're if you can if you're sitting there with

(02:44:29):
your eyes closed and you're fully in that moment, how
much like are are you even in this moment? So
that's by definition, going going into a memory like that,
you're going your you're astral traveling into a different a
different time and pace. You're going into the past. You're
trying your your time traveling into the past, and from
there you're out of body and you can travel into

(02:44:52):
different places. It's hard the first couple of times once
you do that going into that memory, but going go
into a heart for a heartfelt memory, and it could
even be like a funeral or something like that. Any
anytime when your your heart's like really open and you're
you're fully there, you can even go into that. But
you can travel from that point. Once you get out

(02:45:15):
of body, you can travel to any to other points
and practice that. After a while, it just starts happening
on its own. Yeah, be dreaming more. You'll be You'll
be dreaming more everything and.

Speaker 1 (02:45:27):
Be more awesome information. Here we have doctor Courtney Brown,
who will have on the show here next weekend. We'll
be talking remote viewing then and kind of getting into
this whole realm and conversation. We'll continue on then. H
Right now, I definitely want to uh say, you know,

(02:45:48):
I appreciate everybody's patience and hanging out and sticking around
for the show as we go through life things, some
life things on this end, and you know, I just
appreciate everybody' support out there, and as we come back
and kind of bring get the ship going again. You know,
did you have anything that you want to leave the
audience with here tonight.

Speaker 8 (02:46:12):
No, it's just you know, Atlas is coming. Who knows
what is going on with that, whether that's a rock
or a mother ship. You know, it's getting a lot
of attention. There's a lot of interesting things about it,
and maybe this is the moment. Maybe maybe October twenty
ninth to twenty twenty five is the day that we've
been waiting on. So it's just around the corner. Ave

(02:46:34):
Lobe says, if you're on vacation, get back home before
October twenty ninth. So he you know, that dude was
an advisor to during a presidency. I can't remember. I
think maybe as Obama, but he was an advisor to
the president. So it's don't don't take those words lightly.
It's it's a pretty solid dude that's talking about it.

(02:46:56):
But there's a lot of characteristic about this object that
are pointing took might be anomaloust. So we'll see what's
gonna happen in the next couple of days.

Speaker 1 (02:47:06):
And we'll have that conversation next week list. We may
even just because we may even set up a whole
show and talk about it, because we probably should be
talking about it. Somebody should be talking about it. Do
appreciate you, Drew Banky, for being a part of the
show man, doing what you do for this thing. Help
keep this thing moving. We're back in business and I

(02:47:27):
will be seen it. Actually, we'll meet tomorrow. I'll send
you a note. We'll meet up face to face tomorrow
and talk about some stuff and yeah, and then we'll
be back to business next weekend. Appreciate you, sir, yep,
talk to you later much. Love everybody, all right, take care.
That is Drew Banky. Guys you already know what time

(02:47:48):
it is Drew Banky that I was wrap up. We
do want to try to get one little news story
out of here if we can, So let's enjoy ahead
and jump right on in to that.

Speaker 2 (02:48:01):
Ladies and gentlemen, can I.

Speaker 1 (02:48:03):
Please have your attention. I've just been.

Speaker 8 (02:48:07):
Handed in emergence and qualifying good story.

Speaker 5 (02:48:14):
I hate all of you.

Speaker 1 (02:48:16):
Stop what you're doing, all right, UFO and weird news
of the week. Let's try to squeeze one in. People
claim that the rapture is back on for this week
because the wrong calendar was used. Apparently the quote rapture
has been rescheduled, and that's one reason why I don't

(02:48:38):
like dates. But here we go. Remember the rapture that
was meant to spell the end of humankind as we
know it, which never materialize. Well, according to some folks online,
it wasn't a false prophecy after all, and in fact,
the day of retribution, which we know well here right,
has been rescheduled. Just a couple of weeks ago, we

(02:48:58):
were told that the world was supposedly set to end
on either the twenty third or twenty fourth September, so
this is a few weeks so. But both of those
days came and went and were still standing. So the
people who had been peddling the rapture theory on social
media were left pretty red faced when it never came
to pass, especially as people had been quote selling their

(02:49:21):
cars and belongings in preparation for it. South African pastor
Joshua Mikayla was one of the loudest voices proclaiming that
the end of the world was nigh, and he boldly
declared he was a billion percent he should have knew
right there, He's a billion percent certain that it would

(02:49:42):
take place. Last month, he called on Christians to get
their houses in order before God came to rescue them,
claimed that non believers would be left to face the wrath,
and warned that the world would be left unrecognizable. Although
life on this weird and wonderful planet has continued to

(02:50:03):
get crazier by the day, Michaela's other predictions didn't come true. However,
it turns out that there may have been a mix
up when he interpreted the message he claims God gave
him back in twenty eighteen, the pastor as alleged as
alleged that he was visited by God seven years ago
in a dream in which he was informed that he

(02:50:26):
was to be the vessel who would spread his message.
According to Michaela, God told him that he was going
to use me in the last move before he comes,
as his claims about the rapture coming in September, when
Viral Michayla had a lot to answer for when it
didn't transpire, so he sat down with the host of

(02:50:47):
Sending Twins TV to explain himself and revealed that he
had made a slight oversight, which resulted in him getting
the supposed dates wrong. Michaela explained that it dawned on
him after watching a video back in that back in
the day, Jesus was working off the Julian calendar rather
than the Gregorian calendar one we use these days. Most

(02:51:10):
of the New World now abides by the schedule, which
is first introduced in fifteen eighty two, adapted by Britain.
In seventeen fifty two. We made the switch to the
Gregorian calendar, which is named after Pope Gregory the thirteenth,
after Boffins realized it wasn't entirely accurate. Timings wise, the
one we use now as a zero point zero zero

(02:51:32):
two percent correction on the length of the year. Though
the difference in the days went from Julian went from
thirteen behind to twelve and nineteen hundred. Will Christians reckon
that we need to add another thirteen days on the
original date MICHAELA came up with, and that would take
us to either Monday October sixth or Tuesday October seventh,
which both dates have passed. It clicked to me, the

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pastor said, people have to believe me. I repeat this.
I saw Jesus face to face. There's a narrative out
there that is not the real Jesus we will see
in days to come. Once again, Mikayla is willing to
bet it all on the rapture actually taking place, only
this time either Tuesday or Wednesday, October eighth, which has
already passed once again and did not happen. So once again,

(02:52:15):
when we get into people to talk about dates, this
is where I have the problem because dates come and go,
as we all know, and usually the person that predicts
things ends up being wrong. With that being said, as
a fantastic story way to end the show, spooctacular show here,
we want to thank our guests Tilly and our tomais
Treadwell for joining us for hours one and two. It

(02:52:37):
was fantastic talking to them. Once again, we'll have them back. Also,
we want to thank Steve Stark and tells Untold Missing
Person Mysteries because it's awesome that he's part of the show.
Drew Bank obviously with that after ours wrap up, and
we also want to thank the man that you hear
right there. Who is that? That is Ron Bubba flot Thall.

(02:52:58):
He's the man that rocks us in and out every show,
teaching us to never sing never because yes, the phenomena
is real, which means anything and everything under that is possible.
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(02:53:41):
am mister Rob G. This is the appter hours radio
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air for tonight, if you could best believe, we'll be
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talk again soon, take care of each other. All right, great,

(02:54:30):
we are clear, clear clear, crystal clear. Definitely want to
thank everybody for coming on out and also for your
patience and love and support that you guys set out
messages in regards to the situation that was going through
with my mother. I almost lost my mother, very stressful time,

(02:54:50):
and you know, it was great to be able to
see that she came through that. It was even more
great to be able to go down there and wrap
my arms around that and give her a hug and
a kiss, because you know, she's been giving more time,
you know, to be here with us, and I think
that's awesome, and she feels like it's awesome. And you know,

(02:55:16):
just if I had to say anything, just go home
and hug the ones you love. Make sure you you
instead of not going that to see them that day,
go see them, you know what I mean. She told
me not to come down and told me to wait,
you know, give it another way. No, I couldn't do
it right. So the right thing to do is to
hop in the car, run on down there and give

(02:55:37):
her a hug, wrap these arms around her. And that's
what I did, guys, And so I'm feeling a lot
better about that, and we are now back to business.
But once again, you know, I know you expect these
shows to happen all the time, and sometime life gets
in the way, and you know we're not able to
always be here in the way that we would like

(02:55:57):
to be here for you. So with that being said,
that's my spill, uh to you guys. And and just
wanting to tell you guys thanks for the support and
everything and mother is doing well and uh you know
that's all we could ask for. So with that being said,
you guys have a great rest of the night. Is
we continue to move this thing forward, move the needle

(02:56:19):
and uh one love appreciate you guys, Take care, and
we are about here. We want retribution. That's how we
do it. We'll do it every time until we get it.
Take care, guys, because.

Speaker 10 (02:56:39):
We don't grip shut shot

Speaker 7 (02:56:46):
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