Oct. 28/25 - Underground Alien Bases with Melinda Leslie

Melinda Leslie is a long time UFO researcher and experiencer of the ET Phenomenon. Living in Sedona, Arizona, she's now researching what potentially could be underground alien bases, where she has seen strange objects come out of the ground and fly deep into the night's sky,

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, and welcome to the radio and podcast side of
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Leslie is our guest, and we're gonna have a great
time talking to UFOs an alien underground bases tonight with
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coming up for you tonight. You ever think there would
be underground alien bases, Belinda Leslie is here to talk

(02:48):
about those and the et contact that's happening around the
world right now. Then in our number three swamp dweller
joins us with another creepy story We're gonna follow that
one up with the Q and A. The Cryptid Q
and A. Robin Haynes will be here to get things going.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Finish up the.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Show, UFO researcher and experiencer Melinda Leslie takes us into
a deep dive into the shadowy world of UFOs, underground
bases and government cover ups. With over thirty years in
the UFO field, Melinda has exposed the hidden connections between
alien abduction programs, secret military operations, and advanced reverse engineering

(03:31):
projects said to take place beneath classified installations. Her powerful
testimony bridges the gap between et contact, covert intelligence, and
human alien collaboration, revealing a reality far stronger than science fiction.
And I love her to death. From Soedona, Arizona, Melinda Leslie,

(03:52):
it is always good to have my beautiful friend on
this show. How are you doing great, Dave? I missed you.
I've missed you. I'm not gonna lie, Ah.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Your sweetheart, I miss you too.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well. That's good, that's good, and I appreciate you coming
back on the show. We like to have you on
about three four times a year in order to kind
of keep us up to date with what's going on.
In the UFO world. For people who may not be
familiar with you, Belinda, explain your story and how this
has become a lifelong passion and desire to bring out

(04:29):
the truth about UFOs.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Well, let me see. As you know, David's complicated. I've
been in the UFO field for thirty six years now,
and what a ride it's been. I researched a couple
of different areas of research. I am an abduction experiencer

(04:56):
in contactee and just start my whole discovery process of
learning that. In nineteen eighty nine, I'm now owner of
UFO Sighting Tours in Sedona, Arizona. Right take people out
with military night vision goggles to have sightings. And last
night Dave was tour number two thousand and sixty seven,

(05:21):
So two zero six seven. Wow, that's how many tours
I've done.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Why do you do it?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
What's the well?

Speaker 5 (05:33):
I was gonna say, because of nuts. I don't know.
Why do I do it? Well? I suppose there's a
couple of reasons. One is because I'm want to show
people the truth. I want people to see you know

(05:56):
that UFOs are real. Well, we're not alone, and I
love showing that to people, and I love watching their responses.
I won't lie and make them a living doing it
too with the tours, but a lot of my other research,
I don't, you know, I'm lucky if, for instance, if

(06:18):
I get asked to speak somewhere, if they cover you know,
my expenses for instance, you know, I'm lucky. So but
I do that to get the information out, get you know,
the knowledge out there, right, And yeah, and I mean
I do it to educate people. I do it certainly

(06:39):
the abduction research and the mill Aps research is to
help people who've had those experiences. I don't know, I'm
like driven to show people it's real. You know, on
my tours, I want to be absolutely real. I want
people to really see it and go, Okay, I know
this is real. And with our underground base here, there's

(07:00):
seeing stuff come and go from that area and the
evidence for that, and then they know, okay, you know
that there's this government involvement with it, and we're reversed
engineering technology and we're having interaction with the ETS, and
you know, all those things are so important to me.
And so yeah, there we go. Some kind of long
answer to your question. But I'm very much driven to

(07:24):
prove it to people you know, you know, And I
have to tell you, Dave, now that you're asking that
way too. I was just thinking, I think part of
the reason I'm driven to prove it to people is
because of my own personal experiences, like my you know,
my proverbial you know, chip on the shoulder if you will,
is like I want people to know it's real, like

(07:46):
I know it's real, you know, And that's part of
the drive behind behind that. For sure.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
You've been in this field for almost forty years. You've
seen it change from the point well you know, and
I don't mean that to aige you. I apologize for that,
but you have seen so many changes from the days
of when people such as yourself or Stanton Freeman or
Steve Bassett would come out and say we just need

(08:15):
one person to come out, just one and now we've
had a treasure trove of people come out. We've seen
it go from UFO to UAP. We've seen unprecedented media
coverage on this, and we just seem like we are
no further ahead of trying to prove or disprove this. Now.
A lot of people will disagree with that statement, and

(08:39):
what's that you.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Think I think we are further ahead. I'll tell you
how I could know that through a lot of ways,
but I'll tell you what really is demonstrated by my
clients I take out every night, and that's in fifteen
years my tours to reach two thousand and sixty seven

(09:03):
completing tours. I've seen over the fifteen years people's attitude
change and the difference that was a twenty seventeen main
going forward, and and so the disclos became the modern
disclosure movements, and and the awareness that people have and

(09:27):
their acceptance of this subject has grown exponentially, and particularly
when we get real serious media attention to it. Now
it is the media still, you know, falling way short
on that, absolutely absolutely, you know, Present Company excluded of course,
but you know, but the mainstream media, but there is

(09:51):
an increase and when it hits things like whether it's
Joe Rogan or whether it's Ross Cultart on News Nation,
or whether it's Guoma on News Nation, or whether or
even you know, the stuff that they're running on Fox
before and you know, et cetera, that you go, wait
a second, there's an increase in acceptance, an increase in knowledge,

(10:17):
and from when I was in the field thirty six
years ago. It's night and day. It's night and day.
And what I've seen over the last fifteen years of
doing this, let alone since twenty seventeen. So I see
it in my clients, I see it in there active
I see it in talking to people out there in

(10:38):
the public and people I meet in Sidona or people
I meet in other places, and my own family's interests
and knowledge. Not it's no, we're It's definitely been a
huge increase.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Definitely on a published they level, I would agree with you,
but I'm saying on foraging for information, we still get
the same hang ups, the same hold ups, the same
cross stories. I mean, hell, even in the first you know,
the first hearings that we had, we had about an

(11:16):
one hundred and fourteen year old politician asking if it
was swamp gas.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Now, I'm not saying this to sound negative or derogatory,
but the stigma is still there that is holding back
the further information, the real proof of it all.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
But Dave, my point was not in the public. Yeah
are you surprised, And yeah, Congress is behind the you know,
is behind the game. You know, I mean, like, sorry,
I think I've got allergy stuff going on, you know,
would you be surprised at that? No, you know, it's
like you know, and so it's a shame we're looking

(11:54):
to Congress for answers and moving forward on this when
my general public and the people I talk to every
day are more notified, you know. So it's like we've
got to bring those people up to speak. Now, that's
not all of them. And certainly folks on the task
Force are making a difference, and and they're starting to
ask the right questions. And you know, I can think

(12:16):
of Birchett and Burlison, you know, making a difference.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
So but.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
And some of the others you know. But but again
it's like you're right because in those hearings there's some
older guys on there and not the people on the
task force, and they ask comparrassing questions, you know, and
they're not bothering to learn before they go in with questions.
For these people, I think they're relaying, they're relying on
their staffers, and their staffers aren't knowledgeable or interested in

(12:44):
it's not what they're researching all the time. But see this,
even that's changing, Even that's changing. So look I've been
in the field, as we just said, thirty six years.
I never dreamt I would see this in my life.
I never dreamt that I would see this Congress having hearings,

(13:06):
the Task Force looking into it, laws passing or trying
to pass like the UAPDA, et cetera. You know, it's
it's a big difference. And and and is it Is
it all changing as fast as we want? Of course not.
But when for someone like me who's been in the
field thirty six years, I'm like, okay, this is this

(13:30):
is progress, you know, And and it's speeding up. So
is it frustrating right now? But it's it's getting better,
and I foresee it getting better. I think it's gone
far enough down the road that it's not you know,
we're not putting that toothpaste back in the two. We're
not going the genie is not going back in the bottle.

(13:52):
I think it's out and it's going to continue. It's
just at what speed. And I think it's going to
happen like it's been happening, a whole bunch of things
going on, and then all of a sudden it levels off,
and then a whole bunch going on and then it
levels up. All you need is, you know, Burlesen's trying
to put forth this standalone bill that I don't know
if you caught any of the New Paradigm Institute's World

(14:14):
Disclosure Day event, but there was this panel midway through
and anyone who watched that you got to just fast
forward to the panel situation. I highly recommend it going
New Paradigm's website and fast forward into the where the
panel you know, with the looks like the Brady Bunch,
all the different phases right and going to that part

(14:35):
because Burleson immediately goes, look, we're you know, and he
was doing he was really cute. He's doing the panel
from in the car with his kids in the back seat,
obviously on a road trip. This is you know, Congressman
Burlinson saying, we've were putting forth this stand for this
stand a Loane bill to give protection the whistleblowers and

(14:55):
some of the air things we want, and it's it's
being extremely well received both sides of the House and Senate,
you know. And he says, I think this is going
to pass, and is it everything that was wanted in
the uap DA or maybe not, but it's still a
step in the right direction. It will still be the

(15:15):
house passing a bill if in fact of bounslids. But
when he said he's you know, talking to both sides
and it's looking good, you know, so that that was
a bit of good news. That was reassuring. And again
you know, yeah, is not. Everyone's attitudes are changing, and
you know what will make a difference with that, all

(15:37):
this moving forward and more serious media attention. It's already
making inroads, but you get more media on board, more
serious mainstream media attention, asking the right kind of questions,
and this will this will speed up with that attention,
and I think that's coming. I think we're already seeing it.
And like I said, Genie, ain't going back in the bottle.

(15:59):
This will keep going.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Do you believe still in disclosure?

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Yes, I mean disclosure means different things to different people,
of course, you know, and even those people doing it.
I think disclosure, you know, an ultimate disclosure, the ultimate
truth is a ways down the road. But I think
it's it happens in stages, so it depends on how
you're defining disclosure. I mean, one person's idea is not
another person's, you know, so you go Okay, if we're

(16:29):
talking about them, they've already said UFOs are real, so
we're already there. As that grows in momentum if they
start getting into crash retrievals, the biologics, whistleblowers, beyond just
people saying oh, there was the triangle right over my head,
which is valid, but going into folks who said I

(16:49):
was involved in a crash retrieval recovery or in a
reverse engineering program, you know, those kind of things. And
I think that's coming. And I think as soon as
there's laws and whistleblar protections, that's where can really start
open up the floodgates on that. So I think it's
coming and that, But is it the full thing?

Speaker 6 (17:13):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (17:13):
You know, oh, alien abductions are happening and they're creating
hybrids and you know, no, we're not getting that yet.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Okay, but we'll be eventually, I think we will.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
One thing leads to another and people will ask the
next question, the harder questions. And already that's another thing
that happened in that World Disclosure Day, that those things
came up in the conversation, which I did not expect,
and I was happy to hear it. And happy to see.
You know, it takes this community openly talking about these

(17:43):
things first and openly looking at how far along things
really are. You know, if we can't talk about we're
not going to be able to expect the insiders Congress,
the House, the Senate, or the White House or or
are in the media to give an attention so, you know,

(18:04):
and we have to tell them it's okay to do so,
you know, like we always have. But Melinda, again it's coming,
I do, Dave, I feel like it's coming. And again
it's not. Is it the ultimate Oh, you know that
here's everything on a platter. No, I think that'll take
a lot of time.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
But Brandon Fugel from Skinwalker Ranch, he put out a
tweet in response to another tweet by Joe Mercia the
other day basically saying he doesn't believe he thinks disclosure
is dead disclosure at the government level, and he believes
that disclosure has to come from the private citizens such

(18:41):
as you me, the public who are listening, Okay, that
we're going to be the ones who are able to
uh get hurt or get this thing going and get
it out there better than any government agency or military would,
and he's blaming the full on aspect of the military
industrial complex for killing this.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
No, I don't think it's dead. I could see the
frustration he may be basing it again. The new Paradigm
Institute event, the World Disclosure Day had Richard Dolan Carl
Nell speaking, and Carl Nell was and Dolan too were
being kind of pessimistic, which was nice. Right after them

(19:26):
came the panel where bur listens and said, no, we
have this standalone thing going through. If that goes through,
that's gonna help. And and the fact that he and
other congress people are trying to make that happen shows
it's not dead. That's at the government level. They're actually
trying to do something and if that passes, that will help.

(19:49):
So it's it's not dead. And I'm glad that that
came after the comments by Carl Nell, you know, and
a lot of people are quoting the Carl Nell stuff,
but they didn't then w the panel, and I'm telling people, no,
you got to hear what Burlins says right afterwards to
say Carl was wrong, you know kind of thing. So

(20:09):
I think more is coming down. Look, I'm also a
pside could get into it. And I'll go at that
part too, and an experiencer, No, nothing's going away, and
this is increasing, it'll continue to increase, you know. And
and you can get hung up on one minor negative

(20:32):
thing like the Carlonell comments are saying, but you can
step back and go what's really going on? What's the
big picture? Is the House or any of those people
in the committee dropping it? Hell no, you know, are
the Is the media dropping it now? You know? There's
no no sign of Cultar dropping a daytime soon or

(20:53):
anybody associated with them. You put that network on the map,
you know.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Second, you know, And I agree with you on that.
I don't think the story is going away, but I
think there is a push in Washington, DC right now
to try and get this swept back under the rug.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah no, not no, no, no, no, no no no.
Are there naysayers? Yeah? Are there big corporations? All that
is going to get into that in my thing today
with the underground basis and the verse engery, are there
big corporations involved who'd rather not have this come out? Sure,
they've always been there. But all it takes is is

(21:34):
is for instance, Congress to say where's the money going?
And Why did we lose control of that? Why did
we lose the approval process? You know that that? How
did we hand that off? How did that happen? And
how did we get that back and get that control back?
And I don't think that's going away, even though, yeah,

(21:55):
are the naysayers. You know, everything's percentages. I've always said
this and the stuff, and you go, it's not you guys.
First off, I've been saying this a lot lately in
a lot of different context and interviews. Two things can
be correct at the same time. So you can say,
is there opposition? Yes, there always has been. Right now,

(22:15):
what's the loudest voice? And I say, right now, I
mean this year, and you say it is the pro
disclosure Movement's the louder voice than the opposition. And you
can have one day of a negative comment and airbase
tales get you know, I big gets all spun around
and their tail fethers get all bunched up, and then

(22:37):
you go, wait a second, you have to step back
and go, what's actually been happening for months? You know?
And so uh and I can see I have a
unique barometer. And then I talk to John Q Public
every bleeping day and they're not like preaching the cart

(22:58):
and all people that follow it. There are people who
see it on the news or hear something or have
their own signing or whatever, and they they want to
see if it's true. And then I get a lot
of luki loo. I get a lot of very skeptical
people on my tours. I get a majority of skeptical people.
You know. It's maybe there's one person on every other

(23:23):
tour that follows the subject to any degree or knows
anything or has had a sighting, and the rest of
the people are just there going is it real? But
they're asking and they come. But what I see is
the interest going up and the fact that they say,
I want to have a sign because I heard it
on the news. I heard it on the news, I

(23:45):
saw this, I heard it on the radio, I saw
it in print, you know, and they ask or I
heard a congressman saying something. So now they want to
see it for themselves, because then they know it's real
when they see it for themselves. But I'm just seeing
that interest level again. In fifteen years, the interest level's
gone from your ear.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I would agree with you on that. I'm going to
get you to hold on right there. Melinda Leslie is
our guest tonight on spaced Out Radio, And when we
return from the break, we're going to get into underground basis.
Where are they hidden? What's being hidden underground? Are they military?
Are they alien? Are they a combination of both? We're

(24:29):
going to find out. Melinda Leslie right here on spaced
Out Radio, thirty six years in the field of ufology.
She's still pushing hard. We'll be right back, all right,

(24:56):
we are clear, just for everybody. Announcement for everybody. If
you're staying up late after the show, I am going
to be joining Sandy Diva on the Mandela Effects Show
after this. I'm going to go on there for about
I don't know, fifteen twenty minutes or so right after
the show here. So if you want to tune on
in after we're done here over there, that would be great.

(25:21):
Go ahead, subscribe to her channel too. She's a sweetheart.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Before you this afternoon that you maybe knew this, I
was on in X spaces for like three and a
half hours with Science.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Bob Oh yeah yeah, Well Bob.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Hosted it, a couple other people helped them, and they
had me talking about underground base and everything, and it
went on for about three and a half hours. It
was long. Nice, but it's up on X you guys,
it's saved and you can go under me or science
Bob or you know, you'll find it very Yeah, it was.

(26:04):
I think it went well. I haven't really heard from anyone.
If anyone in here heard it, let us know. But
I think it went well.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh probably did you guys probably had a smashing show.

Speaker 7 (26:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Well I didn't go in with any notes or anything,
but I did have, you know, like five talking points
I wanted to hit and the rest was just kind
of riffing. Of course, you know, every answer I have
to something in every experience or you know whatever, they
take so long to share. It's just you know me,
it just.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I do.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
But no, it seemed to go well, I should text
Brian or I don't know if Bob still that he
might be I should text Bob. And you know Brian, well,
of course, you know Brian, Brian Jackson. I should text him.
He was in there. Quite a few people I knew
were in there. I could text him and say, how

(26:58):
did you think it went? You know? But it was fun.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
That is awesome. That is awesome. I'm glad you had
a good time.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
What are you talking about on the on your the
interview you're.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Doing tonight, I don't know. She just wants me to
come on and bullshit. So that's what we're gonna do.
I got nothing planned. I'm literally going to be I'm
literally going to be editing this show and having fun
with them.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
That's all that matters.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it should be.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, I would agree. I would totally agree.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
I went and ate between the other ex spaces and
now and did.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
You go to Taco Bell the server? What did you
go to Taco Bell?

Speaker 4 (27:46):
No?

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Sorry, no didn't. I'd agree, Turkey and Cranberry Soundwich somewhere.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
It was really very nice.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
And so talking to them and said what I had
done and what I was gonna be doing with this,
and I said, I look forward to doing this right
now because that Bob want me just kind of go
with and I didn't go in with any notes whatever,
and I thought it was gonna be more of a discussion.
He wanted me to share my research and updates.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
What was going on, Oh my goodness, and I did.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
But it was it kind of I mean, I don't
get me wrong, I enjoyed. It was kind of work
for that reason, and I was telling the service. I
look so forward to going and doing this interview with
Dave because you get to ask the questions and I
get to relax.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
One second here Melinda, Hello to red Frog, Welcome to
Asar Chat Chaz, how you doing? And Erica Stover and
I iced to see you. Blue Cruise, good to have
you here. Yeah, YouTube reset all of the names for
everybody apparently, Hi, Tina Smith. That's why you see the

(28:57):
numbers on there, so you have to go into your
account and change them. Carrie Doyle, how are you?

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Nice to see you? Who else is joining us here?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
We're done at midnight, so we got two and a
half more hours to go before the show tonight on two.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Uh you have ninety minutes.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Hour and a half.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, because we love you, so we're holding you a
broken shadow feather. How are you? Nice to see you?

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Buddy?

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Time over it.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Stephan Drysdale, how are you? That's a good NHL name,
Stephen Drysdale's see, that's a good good hockey name right now?

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Eleven? Is that it again?

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yeah? You're on till eleven?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Some damage in that amount of time.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Oh yeah, thank you tonight to Stargazer Times too, Kitty
Caddy Wack and t Bone again showing the light and
donating a membership on our YouTube channel. Thank you, t Bone,
We love you for that. And uh, we're coming back
in like twelve seconds.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
The comments very once while somebody has a question for me.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
All right, and here we go. Everybody, hold on Melinda.

(30:38):
Here comes the second half hour spaced Out Radio. Are
there aliens living underground on Earth? We're about to find out.
Melinda Leslie is our guest tonight. My name is Dave Scott.
We are so happy to be here with all of you,
hanging on out and talking about these great subjects that
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Space Travelers Club. Melinda Leslie is here. She's an experiencer.
She's a researcher, she's a very popular voice of the
UFO community. She's been doing it for almost forty years,
and we love it when she takes time out for us. Melinda,
thank you for being here, sure.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
Day, no problem, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
How do we know, let's just get right to it
about these underground bases where aliens are hiding.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Well, first off, it's always been there in the in
the UFO field. Different researchers have talked about from time
to time, most notably, I mean as far as the
one who became most famous for doing just that kind
of research was doctor Richard Soder. And you know, it's

(32:18):
always been there. And when I moved to Sedona fifteen
years ago, I already knew about the existence of the base,
going back easily another ten years before that, so for
at least twenty five years. And then when I moved here,

(32:43):
I had an experience that involved it, so that that
kind of was a catalyst. And then two years ago
everything about my tours changed. What I've been doing this
for fifteen years to reach twenty sixty seven, But the

(33:03):
first thirteen years the sidings slowly built. It was consistent.
I had a lot of return clients, referrals. You know,
business was great, and the sightings were fairly consistent, but
it did kind of increase over time, and then all
of a sudden September twenty seventh, twenty twenty three, everything
changed when we suddenly saw something new going on, and

(33:25):
that was craft coming over, meaning UFOs coming over the
location of where we have this space, and then coming
and going behind the hills where the base is, and
we had never seen that on my tour, and a
lot of military helicopters coming into the area and swarming

(33:47):
prior to all this activity picking up, and you know,
and obviously in direct relationship to it, quite a few
military helicopters when we had never seen that before, and
so suddenly that it started happening every night, and over time,
I realized there were other researchers in town researching, researching

(34:13):
information about the base and people's experiences with it and
the sightings, and I realized, Okay, there's a group of
us that are all independently doing stuff. And I reached
out to everybody to say, look, I'm seeing all this
go on and there's obviously increased activity. What do you
guys know kind of thing. And I realized we all

(34:35):
had people with we all had our accounts of sightings
and witnesses to having signs. We all had accounts of
people having run ins with the military out in our canyons.
We all had insiders that were coming forward and talking
to us. We all had evidence of certain locations with

(34:56):
the base and entrances to it, and again the run
ins with the guard in those locations and people who
had seen convoys and military vehicles. And I realized we
all had a lot of evidence individually, and if we
combine that, it was a much bigger story than we
had realized, you know, like it was like, wait a second, this.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
Is and.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
The significance that all that information would have for disclosure,
because what it says about what's really going on and
going on with like reverse engineering, legacy programs and corporate aerospace,
you know, government contractors involved, and the death of the
cover up and the death of the reverse engineering and

(35:44):
how much how much we've really developed and how far
that technology really is and our relationship with the ETS
and working with the ETS in these under underground basis,
you know, I said in another interview I did earlier day,
I said, you know, I have all these things I

(36:05):
know from my mill up abduction cases, people I've worked with,
and my own experiences with it. To the degree that
I knew we were working with the ets and developing technology,
but now seeing it burst into kind of high gear
and what we're witnessing here, and it just has kind
of exploded it into saying wait a second, and realizing

(36:27):
this is something you know, Dave. You probably know this
from guests on your show and other people that the
most serious, you know, researchers in the field think, oh, well,
you know, the government only has a handful of functioning
reverse engineered and then there are even a few people
that say we don't have ARBs alien reproduction vehicles, and
then the people who say, well, maybe we have someone

(36:49):
as a handful. I used to be one of those
people that, you know, thought, oh, the best insider accounts
is we have a handful, And now I'm realizing it's
extensively more than that. It's it's we maybe have two
handfuls at each location, of which they're you know, and

(37:10):
those of us on the team investigating the team of people.
Now you know, because I said, all these people doing
independent research, I kind of gathered everyone together and said,
we need to share data. This is a bigger story
than any of us have individually when we combine our
stuff together, and now they all agree that it's like, oh,
you have that, and you have that, and you have
that witness and you have that evidence, and we go, whoa, wait,

(37:31):
we have a lot more when we combined it together.
We were all doing independent research and getting different things. Yes,
some of it was crossover, but not that much. A
lot of it was separate stuff. So then realizing Okay,
this is a bigger, bigger story and the reverse engineering
is much further along. No, we're not saying here that

(37:51):
all of what we're seeing is reverse engineer. No, the
team now feels very strong and the majority of what
we're seeing is still ety or non human intelligence, but
we are also seeing some stuff that's priors. And then
we also say, as a team, the investigation into this
underground installation here in Sonona just represents we see it

(38:13):
as like a case study for other such facilities with
the same stuff, and there are and we hear other
accounts and other researchers of those other facilities are saying
they're seeing the same kind of things go on there
that we're seeing here now. In other words, all these
other facilities have an increase in activity, and you start
to go, what are we preparing for? What's going on?

(38:38):
Why is there this huge increase? Why are these bases
a lot more active? And I think it's it's a
story that no one in the field is really addressing.
Sometimes I feel like I'm shouting into the wind here,
you know, like you know, no one's addressing this, and
they'll go, oh, well, maybe we have a couple handful,
and then you have you know, doctor Davis saying they're
no ARVs, and it's like bullshit in my life, if

(39:01):
you have to beat that out, I'm sorry. I will
not do that again. Forget I memoryio. But but it's like,
you know, yeah, there's more and and it speaks to
how far along you're talking multiple large underground installations throughout

(39:23):
the world and throughout the US, with ETS and humans
working together, with extensive reverse engineering programs, which is developing
the extraterrestrial technology and the ETS teaching us even how
to do it, and the development aside, because you can't

(39:43):
fly or function of crap without the psionics without the
side you know, and so it's like this is all
going on, and again, we were here, We're located here
in the team. You know, this base is outside our
back door. We're able to mistigated and meet whistleblowers and
insiders and the witnesses and get stories all the time

(40:05):
of people having the run ins with the guards and
seeing the military convoys and vehicles go down into these canyons,
et cetera, et cetera go on. But but we feel
like again that this is just a case study for
other such facilities. And I'm starting to hear it from
other people. You know, our friend Katie Page, you know, Yes,

(40:28):
they're in Colorado, they're having stuff happen, and and other places.
Karen Hills is outside of Tucson and they're seeing a
bunch of stuff. If you've heard a few other things
here and there from other locations. Someone just was talking
about an increase in activity out in your Dugway. Somebody

(40:49):
was just speaking about that in Utah.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
So these underground bases that you allegedly have in Arizona
are are they Are they having craft come in and
out of them? Like do we kind of know the
locations of where they are and how many absolutely.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
Yeah. First off, we have extensive evidence that this is
a complex tunnel system with tunnels branching out, covering easily
at least ten, if not twenty miles in multiple directions.
So it's a tunnel system. The evidence is starting to
suggest it may be more than one facility, like not

(41:32):
one main thing, but a couple of things, you know,
interlaced with this complex tunnel system you just hear alone,
I mean just within that twenty mile raightis. We have
some pretty good evidence of different locations to the tunnel.
I mean like different entrances, and some of them are
like doorways and stairs and you know, where people can

(41:55):
just go in and out, and some of them are
places where maybe vehicles can come in now you know
kind of thing. But we have the knowledge of where
some of those are, and you know it's not like,
oh well, then just go there and check it out.
Then know this that you have to hike off trail
through thick pine forests and over rock climate's ten miles

(42:20):
like rock climbing and the heavy pine forests. I mean,
they're not easy to get to, and a few of
them that we think are tunnel entrances were major convoys
of military vehicles and semi trucks and stuff go down.
Those are in toy four hour armed guard areas. You
know that you would have to have access into that

(42:41):
area to Bill check that out.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
But now, going back to the nineteen nineties, one of
my favorite stories ever comes from Dulce, New Mexico, the
Phil Schneider incident. Yes, okay, do you think that there
is a tide that last lecture.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
You know, that famous last talk that he gave.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Well, first off, before we get too much into it, Belinda,
before we get too much into it, let's explain to
our audience who Phil Schneider was. They may not be familiar,
but you go, well, I was waiting for you.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Oh well, let me see. I forget was he was?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
He was?

Speaker 5 (43:26):
I know the start he was. He a Garter scientist.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
He was a government scientist. He was a geologist.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
I believest but working at Dulci, Yes, New Mexico.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
And.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Tells the story of a fight between guards and aliens
at Dulci.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, underneath, underneath the ground, and that he was zapped
by an alien beam which took off a bunch of
fingers on his one hand, Yes, and put a hole
in his in his tour show, and uh, he fired
back and apparently killed two of these aliens.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Yes, so this is the story. And then as he
came out, he caught flat from the government for it
and attempts on his life and whatnot, and then his face.
He gave a famous last talk at a conference in

(44:28):
Vegas at the time, and I was there in the
audience for them. But yeah, so that's so you brought
him up. Why were you bringing him up?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Well, I mean because he was the one who really
put the deep underground alien bases on the map in
the about nineteen nineties when he started coming out, and
it just seems like this subject has taken off where
almost every state seems to have one of these underground bases.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
I think even before maybe Phil Schneider, there was a
gentleman in the field that went by a name of
tal Levesque. His real name was something else. Same ways,
long story short, and he was putting out information about
like the maps of where these tunnel systems and bases

(45:21):
and things were located. And he claimed to have inside
contacts and stuff that he was getting that from.

Speaker 9 (45:31):
So yeah, no, the whole thing, I mean, all of
uphology really had a lot of breakthrough, a new fresh
direction in the nineties, you know, in those early nineties.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
That's I mean, I got in the field nineteen eighty nine,
but in the early nineties a lot was going on,
and you know, you have the Art Bell days back then,
you know, talking about it, and and the formation of
some of the big conferences that started up back then.

(46:06):
You know, it was a very exciting time to be
in the field and a lot of very very varying
sense areas of research. You know, a lot of different
areas of research that people were into. So you know it,
I mean, I think that was always there in the field,
but it seemed like there was this real renaissance of

(46:30):
it in the nineties and things, you know, major stories,
insiders coming forward, and you know, those kind of accounts
happening certainly, you know, yeah, Phil Schneider, and then you
go like Bob Bazaar, and you know, and and and
because of the underground based stuff surfacing and it becoming

(46:55):
part of the topic. Then gave birth to doctor Richard Solder,
who took it upon himself to really do some scholarly
research in that direction and write about it.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
You know, these bases that apparently are out there. And
I believe you when you talk about that. I really do,
because I.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
Know some of the evidence for this one here. You know,
we have a lot of evidence.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Now you're in Sedona. How close is this one to you?

Speaker 5 (47:26):
Well, actually, part of this, I think earlier day is
talking about the same thing. Okay, first off, it's it's
predominantly like the but it covers a wide area, but
predominantly the heart of it is probably about ten miles
outside of town.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Okay, is that on a military base? What is that
on a military base?

Speaker 5 (47:50):
No? No, no, no. It is an area of really really
rugged mountainous terrain with no nove no trails in around
the outside of it. Yes, But in the heart of

(48:10):
this area no no trails, no roads, no dirt roads,
no structures. And it's roughly an area that when you
include just beyond our hills, there's about a seven mile area,
but then it widens out to maybe, you know, it's
hard to say exactly. I'd probably have to do more

(48:31):
examination on Google Earth, but widening out to eventually like
ten miles wide and then going straight back into wilderness
about twenty miles. But the closest hills or areas, canyons
and hills that have any maybe part of it going on.

(48:53):
It's easy to say, you know, five six, seven miles
from town, although there are parts under the Cottonwood Clarkdale area.
That's the city of Cottonwood and Clarkdale just west of
Sedona down eighty nine a fifteen minutes or fifteen miles

(49:18):
outside town, and there's some stuff there, So that's under
part of those cities more like towns. But you get
the idea, and some of it, it's some of the
tunnels go over there, but the majority of what we
feel is the majority of the base is out under
Sycamore canyons, Secret Canyon, and Government Canyon. You get this

(49:42):
date canyon names. So it's Secret Canyon, which is in
Secret Mountain, Wilderness and the big Mountain. They're called secret mountains.
You have Secret Mountain, Secret Mountain Wildness, Secret Canyon. Then
you have Sycamore Canyon. But then right behind that it
is a ridge, and then you have what's called Government Canyon.
Why joking, joking, but not joking. When you hide an

(50:03):
underground military base, what's called a dum dumb deep underground
military base in a place called you know, secret Canyon,
Secret Mountain, and Government Canyon. I think you call that
hiding in plain sight. I've been meaning to check with
the county and find out when were those named, because

(50:23):
we have, thanks to Richard Sutter Free of Information Act
documentation about their being a base. We have FOYER request
documentation that they were going to build an installation out
in these canyons over five thousand feet in depth, so
we have documentation to that, and then and then we
have ranchers in the area saying tunnel boring equipment was

(50:44):
going down on semi trucks, on flatbeds, you know, flatbeds
I mean, and military convoys and flatbeds with giant tunnel
boring machine parts going down the dirt roads into our
canyons back in early seventies, going back into the sixties.
So we need to pinpoint from those stories, you know,

(51:07):
how far back. And even though we have FOI requests
that in nineteen seventy five they were going to build
a installation over five thousand feet in depth, we have
stories from ranchers that suggest it goes back before then,
probably into the sixties. So this goes back. So then
I need to find out when were these canyons named

(51:27):
Secret Canyon, Secret Mountain Government Canyon, because somebody had a
sense of humor. If they were named in the seventies
or later, if they were named going way back before
then then you know, then it's just it's curious if
that's where they had. The canyon obviously had nothing to
do with the names, but the names came later, then

(51:49):
somebody had a sense of humor. Because when you look
on Gourgu those are the official canyon named Secret Canyon,
Secret Mountain Government Canyon. Those are the real names.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Like I said, somebody, have you have you personally witnessed things
coming out of these underground caves date every night on
my tours, really.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Literally every night. Yeah, okay, So okay, so I'll talk
about so okay, so let's I'll talk about the sightings.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
We got about two minutes.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
Okay, Well, I'll cover the signings a little bit, then
we get more into it, and then I'll cover about
maybe the tunnels and the evidence and people having run
ins with the guards and the tunnels and stuff and
uh and then some other forms of evidence, you know,
that kind of thing. So, so as far as the
signing is go, an answer to your question, people are

(52:40):
seeing things come and go from that area. Now not
everyone because you it helps we have the night vision goggles,
and it helps that I know when to look to
see it because a consistency of when we're seeing it
all the time and the time of night and stuff up.
I have a couple of competitors doing UFO signing tours

(53:04):
here in town. They're not staying eight out late enough
and they're not looking that direction now are they having
sightings above them, just like we did on my tours
for the first thirteen years. So they're still seeing and
having had to happen what we have had happened for
thirteen years. But in the last two years is when
we started to see what I call this news stuff,

(53:24):
and that is things coming and going from that area
and the amount of military helicopters. And it's happening a
little bit later. So you have to be willing to
be out a little later, and you have to know
the direction you want to look, which is towards those
hills and canyons. But if we're need to break you
let me know and then I get more into this
and we'll come back for sure.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Well, definitely, we got about a minute here. Those things
that you were seeing coming out during your tour, are
they orbs? Are they craft? Are Is it a combination?

Speaker 5 (53:55):
No, we're seeing there's what is and what you're seeing,
and those aren't necessarily the same thing. Okay, because you
can see a craft at a distance surrounded by a
plasma field and are you seeing light at a distance. Yes,

(54:19):
it's only up close that you see the structured craft. Okay,
so I'll explain. So first off, as I said, I've
done twenty sixty seven tours, we have seen on night
tours full structure, meaning all.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
The hard edges like okay, you hold that thought. We're
going to continue it when we come back from the break, Vilinda,
because I know that this is going to be very exciting.
Melinda Leslie is our guest tonight on spaced Out Radio
talking UFO Alien Underground Bases at Arizona.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
This is spaced Out Radio with Hopes Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
All right, Melinda, we are clear, and I'm gonna take
a quick break here. I'm just gonna put you back
in the green room for a couple of minutes. Okay, Okay,
you're taking a break.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
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Speaker 8 (58:23):
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Speaker 1 (59:42):
All right, we are back go about ninety seconds to go.
Let's bring Belinda back in.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
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Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
Yeah, and take that off.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
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update on that mustache? What a beautiful lip blade under.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Every dollar General was still specifically for the dollar General.
H news to me. I don't think so, but what
the heck? I don't know? Well I did. I went
in the chat during the break and said, anybody have
a question, I can take it there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
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Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
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(01:02:30):
she's an advocate for UFO transparency. Melinda Leslie has been
doing this for more than four decades, and now we've
brought her here hanging on out with us. Melinda Leslie,
thank you so much for being here. How are you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
Doing good, Dave? I'm chucklaying because I think every time
you introduced me and a couple more years get added
to the research experience.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Melinda Leslie ninety eight years of research backed into twenty five. Yes,
it is beautiful and we were always so proud to
have you on this show. Thank you, my dear for
coming on again.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Sure anytime, man, I always have fun when they come
on here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Right before the break, we were talking about what you
have seen in Arizona coming out of these underground bases.
How do we know that this isn't some sort of
military production rather than alien production.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Well, what I can do is is back it up
for you a little bit and explain what started happening
two years ago, because then that'll help you understand it.
Before I say that, since you said, you know, how
do we know it's alien or military? You know, my
clients always ask me on the tours, and I say
to them, I say, well, the real honest because they

(01:03:51):
always say, is it us or is it them? You know?
Is it is it them? Mean? And I said, well,
the real honest two honest answers. One is I don't
know Secondly, the second, real honest answer is it's very
likely both. Okay, Now with that, I'll explain what's happened.

(01:04:13):
Two years ago, I had two families and a couple
come on my tour. It was September twenty seventh, twenty
twenty three. The family said, we want to ask you
about your own personal experiences like the two The two
families had seen me, you know, they didn't know each other,
the couples ten people total. And they said, you know,

(01:04:36):
we'd seen you in documentaries and radio interviews and podcasts
and television whatever you know. And they said, because of that,
we have questions about and they both listed different things
that they'd seen or heard me on and they said,
but because of that, we have questions about your own
personal experiences. I said great. They said, can we ask
you about that, you know, tonight on the tour And

(01:04:58):
I said, yes. Let me get all my talking done
because I do over an hour of explaining in the beginning.
Lately it seems been like an hour and a half.
And then I say, after I'm done with that, we'll
get some sightings going. And we would always have the
most sightings in the first hour. There's very logical reason why,
and the second hour would taper off with less sightings,
and it had to do without going to too much

(01:05:20):
do to it right now, in the first thirteen years,
we'd always have the most signs in the first hour
as soon as it's completely dark. And the reason that
you know we call night is just Earth's shadow and
it forms up and starts to extend out into space,
and it also is kind of sweeping across the planet.
But there's a to hour window once it's completely dark
and you've lost any remnant of sunset where everything in

(01:05:43):
the upper atmosphere is stone bright sunlight, so we would
have this angle of sunlight coming over the horizon and
lighting stuff up. The majority of what we were seeing
were metallic things reflecting sunlight. For instance, that's the only
reason you ever see satellite. Satellites have no lighting on them.
They have one twelfth battery strength of your car battery.

(01:06:03):
They have such limited battery strength it'd be complete wasted
or put lighting there no reason, So only see satellites
because they reflect sunlight. And you tend to see a
bunch within the first tours after sunset and the first
tours before sunrise for the same reason, you have an
angle sunlight doing this with my hand, you know, coming
over the horizon. So I told them, I said, let

(01:06:24):
me let's get all the talking done and then we'll
get signs done. But in the second hour, as we
rotate away from the sun and the sightings would fall off.
And that proved itself, you know, thirteen years of doing
the tour. So I said, in ninety percent of the
tours we would have more signs in the first hour. Okay,
So I said, he'll probably fall off, you know, with

(01:06:45):
less and less sightings as we rotate away from the
sunlight in the second hour. So that's a good time
to ask me those things. And they said great. And
then the couple who were there said, who are you
never heard of me? You know, and they're hearing all
these other people say oh yeah, I haven't seen this
and this, and then they're like what. I love it
when I get that mixed crowd, like someone who knows

(01:07:07):
and other people who are just think I'm a flunky
here at the Center for New Age. You know, it
cries me up. Okay. So that's like k I damn okay.
But so so I said, wait, and so when it
slowed down. Now, one of the things I do in
part of my talk is I cover all about how
you know if it's planes, planes, helicopters, drone satellites. I

(01:07:30):
cover all that extensively, and that night I did, including
how to know when it's planes, if it's commercial aircraft,
private aircraft, or military aircraft, planes and helicopters, And again
I had covered that. So as it got later, and
we would have ended the tour at about nine the
first hour of view and would have been like seven
to eight in the second hour of view, and you're

(01:07:51):
with me for like three hours, but that's the viewing
time would have been like eight to nine in September
twenty twinty three. So again the families said, okay, we'll
wait to ask you those questions. So in the second
hour it had slowed down. We had had like forty
UFO signs in the first hour after sunset and someday

(01:08:12):
and then from like eight eight thirty we'd only had
maybe two, you know, really slowed down. So they said
it like a thirty eight for you. They said, wend
it really slowed down, is now a good time to
ask you those things? They said, yes, Well, Dave, you
know me. You know, they started asking me a lot
of questions about my own personal experiences, and then my
clients start opening up and sharing theirs. Well, we blew
well past the nine o'clock time, and we're going on

(01:08:33):
nine to forty five, and one gentleman is looking with
the the nvg's military night vision goos and he's looking
at the horizon and he says, one, I hate to
interact you, but I'm seeing a sea of military helicopters
out over this area. And he said, is this normal?
I go what? And so I start looking so does

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everyone and I go, no, I'll clean it up a
little for you. Oh heck no, Okay the other word,
you know, yeah, so, oh heck no.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
I got that one.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
And and and then all of a sudden, one lady's
looking up as we're watching all this military and he said, yeah,
these keep coming in. All these military helicopters have been
coming in over the hills and canyons for the last
ten minutes. And he said, I didn't want to you
know this, gentleman said, I didn't want to interrupt you.
And so I'm going and they're like, have you ever

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seen this? I said no, I said in thirteen years. No,
We've never ever seen this. And then about a few
minutes into seeing that, a lady's looking up and she said,
there's all these things moving up there. It's like what
we saw in the first hour, but it's more than
the first hour. And now like it had gone easily
from eight thirty to nine thirty with maybe only having

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two sightings, and now it's like nine forty five, We're
getting a sea of sightings above us. And one lady said,
is this normal for it to stop all the sightings
and like an hour later have a whole the wave
of sightings. And I said, oh, heck no, never seen
it this way before. And then another lady knows that
these lights were coming and going behind the mountains in

(01:10:13):
the distance, hills and mountains and coming up behind those mountains.
And my clients start to say, is that normal for
them to come and go behind these hills? Well, you
know what my answer was, I said, oh, heck no,
never ever seen this in thirteen years. Ever, I've never
I've never seen him come and go behind the hills

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and mountains in thirteen years. Never, And they and then
one lady goes, well, why would they be coming from
behind there, and I said, well, there's a simple answer.
I told my clients simple ants are a complex answer.
And the simple answer was, there's trails in the beginning

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of Secret Canyon that go a couple of miles and end,
and the beginning of Sycamore Canyon that go a couple
of miles an end. But beyond there there's like another
two miles at least a secret canyon with no trails,
no roads, no dirt roads, no structures, nothing, wild rugged
mountainous terrain, giant bowlders, pine forest. You can only go

(01:11:16):
further than the trails if you're like rock climbing. And
then in Sycamore Canyon, the trail goes back three miles
and ends, but the canyon goes back like another four
or five miles beyond them. So you add that together
and it's e easily seven miles of no no, no trails,

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no dirt roads, no paved roads, no structures, nothing, just wild, rugged,
mountainous terrain. Some of its sheer canyon walls, you know,
and some of it's really thick pine forest. And then
the closest civilization is twenty four miles back is the
town of Belmont on the forty Freeway. If you're driving
from Flightstep to Williams, like going to the Grand Canyon,

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or Williams to Flagstaff. Right in the middle, little tiny
pushes stamp of the town. If you blink, you'd miss it.
On the forty freeway, there's a McDonald's and a truck stop.
That's it. And that's like twenty four miles back. So
there's at least twenty miles back of nothing. Twenty miles
and then once you get beyond beyond the hills right
outside of town, the wilderness opens up some more. So

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that's why I said, it opens up about ten miles
wide by twenty miles of nothing, wild, rugged, mountainous terrain,
no roads, no trails, nothing, no structures, you know, and
so so so I said, the simple answer to my
clients that night was there's no reason. I can't imagine

(01:12:41):
why the ets or their craft, you know, be coming
and going from behind these hills. There's nothing there, there's
no reason to be there. And late at night it's
it'd be pitch black out there, you know, there's no reason.
And then because I remember I had said, there was
also complicated so on. So one of my clients, you know,
being a smart blank like me, you know, says okay, Melinda,

(01:13:06):
then what's the complicated answer? And I said, well, the
complicated answers we have a deep underground military base. And
that's the only thing reason I could think that each
is a becoming going behind there when we had never
seen that in thirteen years and doing the tours every night,
and it just like all of a sudden starts to happen.
And so the next night I told my clients, they said,

(01:13:27):
we have this new thing going on, and then next
night and the next night, and it ended up two
years later, here we are. It keeps happening, and I
kept thinking, maybe this will end at some point. No,
it's it's increasing. We're even clients of mine, Dave, who've
been with me in the last two years. I just
took out a client there night. It's like the third
time in two years they've gone out with me. And

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they said, oh my god. Last time they went out
with me it was in May, just last May, and
they said, Melinda, this is like like we're seeing five
times more tonight than we saw on May. And then
the other time was like that time last year, and
they said, every time it's at least like triple how
much stuff we're seeing from previous times. So you know,

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so so those your turn clients that are able to say, well,
this is a huge increase, and yeah, do we have
some nights that might be a little slower, but you know,
consistently there's this increase, and what we're seeing is the
sea of military helicopters. Now, yes, the stuff's coming and
going from behind those hills, and the closest hills are
like five well there's closer ones that are like two miles,

(01:14:32):
but behind number more so, anything coming and going behind
there is at least five miles away and up to
about ten fifteen miles, so between five and fifteen miles.
And in one area, government canyons behind a ridge that
we know that ridge is ten and twelve miles away.
So anything coming up behind there when we see it
coming up is probably twelve miles away or more coming

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up back there, and we're seeing these large amber lights.
But just so you know, I've taken out physicists on
my tour galore. I've taken out, you guys, so many
insiders and aerospace people and engineers and physicists and professional
pilots and astronomers and astrophysicists, you name it, highly qualified witnesses, lots.

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I just had two guys the other night that are Melinda.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
I have a bunch of questions built up from our
audience here. I want to I want to get these.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
Real quick day. If I can, I'll finish this. So
we're seeing these big amber lights. I've taken out physicists
and plasma physicists. It was mostly a handful of plasma
physicists who gave me the most men of d deal.
They said, in the lab, they create a highly charged
energy field, so massively charged it ionizes the air. That's
called electrical plasma. And in the lab they know that

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they've achieved that plasma or that ionized air when they
get amber lightniting anything gold and then little more power
goes orange. The more power goes red, so you think
old orange red in that spectrum that's called amber light,
and it means you've ionized the air. And then they
tell me it's like fifty times more power. After the
red you get a different kind of plasma. Then you
get blue, and then and then after blue, fifty times

(01:16:14):
more power you get great. Well, we used to get
amber light like two out of three tours, and we
were lucky if we saw it twice in a night. Now, Dave,
with this new stuff, in the last two years, we're
getting amber light. I'm telling my clients you'll see at
least fifty times night, Like we're getting it constant. When
it used to be two out of three tours and
we're lucky if it happened two or three times. Now
you're going to get like fifty times a night. And

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these are these giant amber lights. Now to my research
team members, Jeremia Alexander, they have friends that they work
with at a local resort here in town. These people
went out and we're photographing this behind one of our
canyons one night at the same time I'm out there
with a tour, but they're in a different area and

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they had a telephoto lens on a really good camera.
They zoomed in on these amberlites and took these pictures
where you can see that there's an object in there
creating the plasma field around it. And I've been saying
that forever to people for fifteen years, but now people,
I have these four pictures. These folks took it and
they're gonna go out there locals, so they're gonna go
out and do this more. But they got an object

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in the plasma field. Now it's got the plasma in
front of it, so it's not a hard edged, you know,
really clearer picture, but you can say there's definitely like
bands of plasmas, almost like a coronal effect, and in
the middle there's clearly a dark object. I mean, no doubt.
And so I love that I have those pictures now
to demonstrate what I've been saying all along. But what

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that means is that's a crap that's a ship. And
according to plasma physics, the physicists plasma physicist and aerospace
people for instance, and engineers and you know on my tour,
they say it means the object is bleeding an obscene
amount of that's a field effect that's a byproduct of

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the propulsion system ionizing the air around the crack. Whenever
you get that amber and then occasionally, if it's big enough,
field effect are stronger, you know, energy by many you know,
magnitudes you can get then the blue or the green,
which we we've in the you know, we get amber

(01:18:25):
light every night. We've had blues six times last two
years and green five times, so we have seen that.
But we get amber every tour and what happens is
they do what I call a power up. These objects
get brighter right before they're going to leave. Lead means disappear,
and disappear is you know something disappearing is either if
it's they're immediately disappearing, you're talking about like going you know,

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folding space time around it, or bend light around it,
or going in a dimensional or it's sometimes when you're
right under these things, you seem to shoot straight up
like a bullet, so we know that some of these
things are shooting off really fast. Now, besides seeing the lights,
we have seen structured craft. On forty eight of the tours.
We've had full structure. Like if I hold this phone up,

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you know where you see all the hard edges, you're
seeing the structure. So we have seen full structure.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Whips.

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
I've seen full structure on these tours on forty eight tours,
and some of those were more than one. So just
to cut real quick, we've seen full structure about seventy times,
and that's conservative. I've dialed that number back. That's a
conservative number. Seventy fully structured craft seeing all the hard
edges on its spread out amongst forty eight tours. But

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that's seventy structured craft, forty eight tours out of two
thousand and sixty tours. You know, Okay, so we have
seen it. I usually tell my clients don't expect that,
but it's it's so dramatic when it happens. We've seen
big black triangles. I'm not kidding, Dave right under, you know,
like clear where everyone on the tour side. I only

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count structure if everybody present sees it. I would easily
have another fifty tourist with structure if I counted the
times that half the people are less sought. But I
really have only counted because I can say everybody on
those tours sawt We've seen triangles, black triangles ten times,
no joke.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
No kidding, ten times. Do you think the black triangles
are ours or theirs?

Speaker 5 (01:20:28):
They're both? Years ago, I had an insider, long story
short I knew for years an insiders say, if it
had rounded edges, it's theirs. If it had on triangles
or beveled edges, it's ours. I don't know if that
any longer is the is the case. But but again,

(01:20:48):
I think the real honest answer is to say it's both.
Now we have had black triangles come out and discs
come out of this area from up behind the hills.
I'll give you quick example, a quick story. Jeremi no Xander.
Two my team members. I do a lot with them,
and we've presented recently, so I'm quick to name them

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above some of the other people that haven't been quite
as active, but that are part of the team. But
there's a core group of about five of us and
another like five people who will help us, okay most sure,
and some other people showed interest lately with some science
backgrounds and stuff. So I think the research team is
going to grow if those other people step forward. There
we go. But so one night we're on the tour

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behind Kasner Mountain, which is what these mountains I'm trying about,
and it has a top altitude about six thousand feet.
Night coming up behind it were these giant amber lights.
One of them starts to come over Kasner towards us,
actually kind of lighting up Kasner as it came. And
as it came towards us, six miles out from where
we're sitting, this Bradshaw Ranch, which is our version of
Skinwalker Ranch, but here that's a utahn Bradshaw Ranches here

(01:21:58):
in Sedona. But from where I take my clients, it's
literally six miles straight to where that is. And so
this light coming over Kasner, starts coming towards us and
then stops, and it's real bright. It's at arm's length.
It's like dime size. And I say it to my clients.
If we were out at Bradshaw Ranch, we'd be right

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under that thing right now. We'd be looking at structured craft,
because that's going to be structured.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
If you're right under two minutes to go here, Melinda,
do you think the energies and the high stranges of
Bradshaw Ranch has a lot to do with these sightings?

Speaker 5 (01:22:37):
No, Bradshaw is a high strangeness. It's a place with
a lot of paranormal stuff. You can have sightings anywhere
in Sedona. The sightings have to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Do with.

Speaker 5 (01:22:49):
Sedona and its energy what we call here the vortex,
the vor disease. Okay, that so the increased magnetic fields
firing up from the ground here and probably a lot well,
the signings have been going on here going back thousands
of years because the naive Americans living in the area

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going back thousands of years said they had regular contact
with the star beings. So you had the sky beings,
the star beings, and the amp beings. The amp beings
came out from underground, the sky beings came from the sky,
and the star beings come from the stars. When they
draw star beings amongst their drawings, they often look like
sometimes they look like variation on grays, but some of

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them look like the manted beings when they draw them right.
And our canyons back in here have petrographs and petroglys
galore from the Nave Americans showing ships and eaties and
they'll draw stars around them, so you know those are
the ships. Those are the eaties because they're surrounded by

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the way the anasazing the hopi Et Center drew stars,
so you go, okay, that's stars are those And and
this area was long known for having that involvement with
the ets. I think it's both because of the energy
here and the and the fact that ets we're always

(01:24:14):
here is why the base is here. And then the
bases out in areas surrounded by nature and mountains, and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Melinda, hold on right there, because we are going to
go to break. When we return from the break, we
are going to get to some audience questions because they
are piled up. In the next half an hour, We're
going to have some fun. Melinda Leslie deep underground potential
alien bases in Arizona. She is one of the best
when it comes to breaking down this excellent, excellent topic

(01:24:47):
of tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
Thanks you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Listening Space Down with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
All right, Melinda, we got a bunch of questions here,
so do you want to take some questions during the break?

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
All right, let's start off with Shelle here. We already
know what they are disclosing. Do you think it might
just be a sy op?

Speaker 5 (01:25:35):
No, I think the word si up is overused. Say
what did I do? I have I napped up?

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
Oh? Something fell? Oh my, excuse me. Guys, did you
fall over?

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
Yeah, my laptop fell. I have it on a little
table that fell up. Oh my, it was propped up
in the back by flower arrangement. But it's but I
pushed it a little.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Too far and it slid off it as No.

Speaker 5 (01:26:11):
It slid up the little table. That's very funny.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
It scared the hell out of us.

Speaker 5 (01:26:20):
Sorry, No, I wasn't abducted. Yeah, sorry, okay, So is it?
Is it? Shell? So I think the term is overused

(01:26:40):
and goes oh science that means just psychological operations that's
done to like promote fear, to cause an enemy too,
to you know, fear military operation, or to cause people

(01:27:00):
to be afraid, you know, use to manipulate votes, that
kind of thing, you know. So there. I think there
are things in historically a lot of evidence in regards
to Okay, but no, I don't think disclosure is I
think what we're what we have is senators and congressmen

(01:27:23):
and House members that are asking questions about where's the
money going and and realizing the government lost control of
this subject because it went to corporate entities, which we
can get to more date by the way, this because
you know it went to corporate entities and we have
evidence of that out here. So so no, you guys,

(01:27:48):
I think I think you're diminishing and over simplifying sometimes
when you say syap as opposed to you know, what
do you really mean? You know, and and you go,
well wait a second, or Congress been asking real questions? Yeah?
Are they realizing that information is being kept by these
corporations away from them. Yeah, you know, and people are

(01:28:09):
being told. Now, could there be a generation of a
threat narrative at some point, Well, that could be using
the facts and the information to put out a few message.
That would be a sim that would be turning the
facts and the information and using it towards that end.

(01:28:30):
If anything, I think that message was used little to
bring us the current disclosure because it made Congress and
send it be concerned. But they've moved beyond it. So
was that being general? I think there is a good
fair argument that it was, but not that heavily. And
again I think it's moved beyond that where now they're

(01:28:52):
asking deeper questions. And so no, I do long answer
to I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Let's try and sneak in one more from Carrie here.
Have you heard of Colonel Greg who claims he was
security on most of the underground bases and SAIDs he's
seen reptilian seven floors down.

Speaker 5 (01:29:13):
Well, that's been known information. I mean maybe this guy
has no Okay, first, so first off, I have not
heard I don't know who colonel Greg is. I have
not heard that it has been well established with these
underground bases and the stories and the mill labs, the
abductees being taken to these bases, and insiders who've come

(01:29:37):
forward that multiple et races and humans are working together.
I was going to get into that with the base,
and I will at some point when we're back on
the radio. But the insiders coming forward have said that
there's humans and ets working together. All the bases have repetita.
So don't go, oh, there's you know. The one guy says, no,

(01:30:00):
you guys. Every insider says that, Every Mill lab says
that it's very common these bases have multiple et types
scene working with covert humans, including reptilians.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
All right, thought, hold that thought, Melinda, because we're coming up.
We're coming back on the air right now. We're into

(01:30:37):
the second half of Spaced Out Radio tonight. My name
is Dave Scott. We have our guest Belinda Leslie until
the top of the hour here on the show, and
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audience questions. Melinda Leslie is our guest tonight, based out

(01:31:23):
of Sedona, Arizona, where she runs a UFO tour. She's
an experiencer. She's one of the top names in ufology. Melinda,
thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 5 (01:31:33):
Sure day, thank you, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
All right, let's get to t bone for a pair
of questions here, starting off with this one. Do you
think these underground bases connect to water bases as well?

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
I think that's highly likely. You know a good person
to ask about that, because it's kind of his wheelhouse
right now, is Richard Dolan, because he's dealing with so
much with the under water bases and the underwater UFO
sightings and whatnot, connecting all that together. I've heard them

(01:32:06):
recently talking about the very thing, So I think it's
likely now as far as here in Sedona, I don't
have any evidence of this being connected to other facilities
other than maybe a suggestion about the magnetic levitation trains
and some other tunneling. But as far as anything going
all the way to the coast, I don't know. But

(01:32:27):
are there, for instance, installations in California or other places
like Coltwood, Texas where coastal installations that may connect to
bases in the water too. I think that would probably
highly likely.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Yeah, all right, moving on to another one from t
Bone here, which is what do you think the endgame
is with the Aliens and this whole movement?

Speaker 5 (01:32:57):
Well, well, you know, okay, I guess the honest answer
theirs I don't know. I mean, I can say, you know,
the etis come here. You look at the things that
they've been doing. They're obviously very concerned about the environment.
They're very concerned about nukes and nuclear weapons, but not

(01:33:17):
they're very nuclear energy extremely they're concerned about the earth.
And then there's the creation of the hybrids and the
hybridization program, suggesting either they need us to survive or
we need them to survive, or an upgrade of the
human race. Okay, and that's not new, it's always been

(01:33:40):
going along, but that's clearly one of the factors and abductions.
So you know, endgame, well, it's a hybridization program, upgrading
either them or us or both and concern for the
environment and everything, and that could be for the future
of us or them to live here. You know that

(01:34:01):
they would be concerned about these things now their endgame
as far as working with the military, well, these are
corporate entities, aerospace and other government contracting companies getting you know,
at least billion, if not trillion dollars dollar contracts to
both manage these facilities and develop stuff, and an endless

(01:34:25):
flow of money to these projects, probably through the SAP
Specializes program, you know, funding process and your tax money
at work, you know, being fundled to these corporations to
develop the stuff and yet keep it away from you
and any benefits to mankind and to our you know,

(01:34:46):
coming off of fossil fuels and the his and for
the sake of the environment, and medical breakthroughs that would
benefit mankind you know, and your and medical breakthroughs, and
changing the world's economy away from fossil fuels, and the

(01:35:07):
empowerment of the Middle East states that own us and
we make decisions for it, you know. So it's like,
wait a second, it would be an end to that
of all that. And so not only that, it's it's
knowing our rightful place in the universe and that we're
not alone, you know so, and which gets into deeper
spiritual and philosophical things. But also it's it's the need

(01:35:28):
of this technology and our ending dependence on foreign oil
and everything to change the world economy and so, and
these corporations and these government structures are benefiting by the
status quo for that, and the endless funding of money.
The thing is just your money, and you ought of care,
you know, and it's your being life to about the truth.

(01:35:48):
So you know, the life's being perpetrated on you, and
your money is being spent to fuel that life. That
I have an issue with that. Don't you have an
issue with that? Dave?

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
I do I have an issue with it? Of course
I do, you know, And just like everybody else, I
want to know the truth.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
I want to know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
I just I guess I've lost faith in the movement
that anything like that will come from the government.

Speaker 5 (01:36:17):
Well, and someone, you know, I think there's a lot
to be said, and someone I think said it previously
about the truth comes from us, and I think that's true.
But the government is part of this. You guys are
supposed to well, in a perfect world, okay, they're supposed
to represent us, and they're elected representatives for your country

(01:36:38):
and my country day, you know, and so you go, well,
wait a second, if they're elected to do our bidding,
then they need to represent us, and if representing us
means representing the truth to us. But the problem is,
like with this subject in particular, giving that over to
corporations is where that breakdown happened because they don't answered us,

(01:37:02):
and yet they're being given our money. So that's that
is a misuse of the system that needs to end,
you know. And so I think the endgame is let's
end that. But as far as the ets, well, they
obviously have their own agenda and whether it's there betterment
are ours or maybe both, you know, but I'd like

(01:37:23):
to think it's both, and I think we're being benefited
from it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
All right, Let's go to Joe here. Let's go to
Joe here. Melinda, what do you think of the theory
that the underneath every dollar general that was built specifically
for dollar general has some kind of bunker or base
under it. I think there was a rumor about Walmart
being like that too.

Speaker 5 (01:37:44):
Yeah, I don't know. I've never heard anything like that.
I have no evidence in support of that, so I
have known.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
All Right, let's go to Nicole, We Linda do the
Foyer request. Ask if the location is a strategic Nash
stockpile site or a Federal Relocation arc site.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
Hi, Dave's beard.

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
Dave has a great beard.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Yes, it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
Might have more personality than you though, Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Sorry, that very true. That's where I get my power.

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
It's you. It's like your wand it's like a big
wide magic Wand Okay, going back to that question, hang on,
going back to Nicholes.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
I gotta find it here. I accidentally erased it. Nicole,
would you would you do any Foyer requests to see
what they are? What would you? The question was, would
you would you do any Foyer requests to see what
they are?

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
To see what the bases are?

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:38:50):
Well, doctor Richard Soder did a bunch and a few
other people have. So there is documentation and support of
these bases existing. And you have to, you know, like
any fo you thing, you have to You can't just say, oh,
they're based you won't get anything. You have to know
what you're looking for specifically and code words and stuff

(01:39:10):
to get anything, and then they're going to probably be
highly redacted. But havinga said that people have done stuff,
He's done stuff. So to find out that there are
these installations and they have different purposes, at least officially
on the documents. Some of them are supposed to have
like nuclear facility, nuclear weapons storage and nuclear waste storage facilities,

(01:39:35):
this kind of thing. Some of them are contingency of
government sites. You know, different ones have different things, and
what may be on the books and what they allocated
the money for may not be what it's used for today,
you know, or even at the time that was just
the justification, you know, you know, like, oh well we

(01:39:57):
can throw money at that based on this, and yet
it and maybe it was in part for that, and
then they used it to also hide some of this
clandestine stuff. So yeah, so there's there's different ones with
different purposes, but not that much data has been gone after,

(01:40:21):
just enough to say, okay, you know again, I go
back to the work of Richard Satter, getting quite a
bit of Floyer Request documentation on a number of facilities
and finding out there was a large range of reasons
they had them. It wasn't all et related. In fact,
that might have been in the documentation of small percentage

(01:40:41):
or not represented the documententation. But now the evidence is
that we have these large reverse engineering related facilities, So
you know, it could be once they got the money
stream going, they didn't need to constantly prove why. You know,
they can just do it under Oh it's national security.
Oh it's weaponization. Oh it's protection. Oh it's you know,

(01:41:05):
Department Defense, Department of War, you know the calling it,
you know, putting it in that Geiston justifying extreme expenditure
in development of technologies and weapons, et cetera, and aerospace vehicles.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
All right, next question coming up comes from let's see
here Jaketta so irying to.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
Call you that your question went goodbye and I didn't
get to see what it all said.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
But eh, Jaketta is asking somewhere here in Missouri is
supposedly a drive into tunnel and underground city. I think
I saw Semis going in on some YouTube videos. Is
this something you've seen or heard of?

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
No? No, and I want to be cleared, so no,
I haven't heard of that, but I want to be
clear to people, I'm not a generalist in the underground research.
I'm actually kind of I mean, have I known about
underground tunnels for a while, and the work of researcher

(01:42:09):
Tell Levesque and the things he was printing in the
nineties with the maps of where the installations are and
then mag electorne maps and all that, and then the
work of doctor Richard Soder. When I had a lecture
series in southern California, I had doctor Richard Solder come
to speak for me at least twice, and I think
three times about his research. So I was always kind
of a famine follower of it, but I've never been

(01:42:31):
a researcher of it till a I moved here Sedona
and became more famil with our facility here, and then
since this new stuff, with the sighting's coming and going
and all the military yelcopters swarming over those areas in
the last two years is what made me go, wait
a second, what's really going on? And when I start
asking around, hearing people's run ins and encounters with the guards,

(01:42:54):
and seeing the convoys and military vehicles go back and
the tunnel boring equipment go back, I mean it just
and realizing all of us on the research team had
different pieces of that and added together how much data
it was. It just so, really, my research is at
about one base here in Sodona, and predominantly that research

(01:43:16):
has been in the last two years. So I'm not
a generalist overall. So you guys can ask me general questions,
but as far as specific locations where they are, unless
I read it in Richard Sodder's book, I'm not going
to know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
All right, let's go to Terry. Melinda. You do know
that Dave is a farsier, don't You asked Dave about
eleven eleven and the U into Basin, So I'll quickly
tell you this story.

Speaker 5 (01:43:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
So Terry Hall and a few others were out in
the Unto Basin by blind Frog Ranch and they were
looking for UFOs. I'm sitting right in the studio where
I am, and it was I think a Saturday night,
and all of a sudden I just had the feeling
I need to call Terry. So I get a hold
of Terry and I asked him, I said, dude, how's

(01:44:07):
it going. He goes, it's been very quiet tonight. I said,
you need to go look outside right now, look at
about eleven thirty in the sky, and you're going to
see some lights moving out there. And so Terry, being
the skeptical guy, just kind of rolled his eyes said okay, fine,
and all of a sudden he goes outside with the

(01:44:28):
camera and there's lights moving in the sky.

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
Very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Yeah, I like that story. It's one of my favorites.
Go to Derek here, Melinda.

Speaker 5 (01:44:39):
Do you there's times on my tour where I'll get
I call the psychic kit. I'll get a strong impression
that sits either something that's coming or no. We just
see stuff everywhere, so it's like not a big deal,
and over the hills particularly, But there are times when
I'll get a big psychic kit to look a certain
direction or pay attention and then we'll get like a
big formation of objects right or I've even had it

(01:45:02):
before a structured craft. Not every time, but enough times
that my clients went, wow, you really called.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
That, you know. Let's go to another question here. Let's
go to Derek and Florida. Melinda, did you see recent
interviews with Anna Paulina Luna saying that she has been
getting threats for trying to get disclosure, and even folks
tried to erase her family lineage.

Speaker 5 (01:45:27):
No, I saw comments that she was saying about the
witnesses getting more harassment the witnesses that testified, but her
particularly not necessarily. So maybe I didn't see that. I wasn't.
I did not hear anything about erasing her family lineage.
That's very interesting. No, I guess I'll have to look

(01:45:50):
into that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
I'll have to look into that one too, because I
haven't heard that one either.

Speaker 5 (01:45:56):
I do know that some of the witnesses have been
catching some flat.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
Yeah, all right, let's move on.

Speaker 5 (01:46:03):
To we're also getting a lot of support. You know,
a couple of them just spoke for the Soul Foundation
event in Italy and and a tremendous new you know,
conference by Soul and and the lineup this weekend. And
I know some people that were there and have heard
amazing things about it. But yeah, really amazing things. But

(01:46:27):
but so I know that some of those people have
had some flack, but you know, they're they're getting flack
and blowback, and they're also getting tremendous support. And thank god.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
All right, let's get to another question here. Let's go
to uh, let's see. Let's go to t bone again, Melina,
what was your I know what I saw a moment.

Speaker 5 (01:46:49):
Oh, lots of those every time you see a structured craft.
But oh gosh, all I know, Daved do this because
there's so many. But I'll give so what I saw
meaning sighting, So it'll stick just to that as opposed
to abductrial eight staff, and I'll go to one of

(01:47:16):
the one of the first significant sightings that was just
stands out for me. And then the last sighting of
a structure craft that we had on my tour. Okay,
so the first thing being I mean, go back to
other signs, but one that really stuck out was when
I first started to go and I probably shared this one, Dave,

(01:47:37):
you probably heard this. Take Area fifty one in Nevada,
and I'm there with three other friends. We drove out
in a car together. We go to leave town, to
leave the little alien you know, Arne Grill and Rachel Nevada,
and to start driving back. And you're gonna go on
the ninety You're gonna go on Highway three seventy past

(01:48:01):
groom Row, and then you're gonna go on Highway ninety
three through Ash Springs and then you're eventually going to
catch up with the fifteen freeway and head back in,
you know, to Vegas. And we had a significant sighting
of we had just gone through Ash Springs on the

(01:48:22):
ninety three. It was about four o'clock in the afternoon
and complete daytime, still late in the afternoon, late angle sunlight,
but completely blue sky, and we had this amazing sighting
of a giant I call the silver pancake in the
sky and seeing at a distance, it looked like a

(01:48:44):
saber sword blade, like if you took a big shiny
saber sword and hung it in the sky and maybe
tilted a little so it'd catch the sun really bright,
and then tilted back seat mirror finished silver and do that,
you know. And then as we approached it, we eventually
got closer and closer we realized that was the leading

(01:49:05):
edge of a disk and it was a big like
silver pancake mirror finished in the sky. Amazing sighting, and
all four of us in the car saw. We argued
about pullover because one person had a nice camera in
their lap and we wanted them to get photos and
I thought they were taking those. It turns out they
were waiting till us pulled over, but there was an

(01:49:27):
argument with the driver and the driver decided to speed
up to get closer. So we ended up not pulling over.
We ended up speeding up, and so that person did
not take a picture, unfortunately. But it was dramatic. We
had to wash it for a couple minutes. It rotated,
it kind of went down in altitude a little bit
between two what we thought were big hills in the distance.

(01:49:50):
Turns out they were mountains, but it kind of came down,
but not really big, two smaller mountains, came kind of
somebody down between them, raised up again just a little
bit above them, and then just like snapping your fingers,
winked out and the four of us sat in the car.
But that was like a giant silver dish. It was bigger.

(01:50:11):
It was bigger than a football field. It might have
been the size of two football fields. It was large,
and it was dramatic and shiny silver, and to see
it rotate and shine in the sun and then eventually
just wink out all together and everyone seen. So that
was an absolute moment. And then okay, so that was

(01:50:32):
and there were maybe some other sightings out at area
fifty one on some trips out there in eighty nine
that I saw before then, I mean one maybe before
they'll just saw this in real quick. I wasn't going to.
But before even seeing that, on another trip to area
fifty one before that, one was seeing this big kind

(01:50:53):
of amber light thing come up from the base start
to do a big path over us. And a gentleman
had a ten inch telescope out there with like like
a little step stool up to it and the eyepiece
to look in, and the telescope was this big round
tenage and he had it fixed and he said, okay,
I got it in the telescope, and so people were
lining up to look and he was slowly kind of

(01:51:15):
moving it to try to keep with it, but it, luckily,
it was moving really slow over us. And when you
looked in the telescope it was a big disc with
little lights all around the edge. Now to naked eye,
it was kind of just an elongated big amber light,
but in the telescope you could see it had little

(01:51:36):
rectangular lights all along the edge of the disc and
it was rotating and it was you know, clear as day.
So that was like, I know what I saw, and
we all saw it and people could see with their
eyes and then people were lighting up at the telescope
and it come out from the base, did this big
curving path over us behind because you're right on Highway

(01:51:57):
three seventy five right there, just outside it, you know,
Groom Lake and the Groom Base and you know, between
Ash Springs and Rachel, Nevada, And it curved around over
the and there's mountains right behind you in the highway
right there, and it went right over those mountains and
then eventually shot straight up and that was phenomen It

(01:52:18):
was big, so big, you know, i'd say a couple
hundred feet in diameter, and so that that was really spectacular.
But that silver daytime was Okay, then let's just jump
to the last time it was. I started craft on
my tour and was the last structured craft that I saw.
It was about six months ago. What a good day?

Speaker 4 (01:52:39):
No, I just said, right, I was confirming.

Speaker 5 (01:52:41):
Oh okay, I didn't want to talk over you. We're out
of my usual spot. There's kind of bush near us,
and over behind me the cars are some trees and
over behind that for those from the Sedona was from
that angle works at what's called Cultural Park and over
there you're seeing a Thunder Mountain, which is when you're
driving through town on A nine eight. That's the Giant

(01:53:03):
Dome Hill. And then Coffee Pot Rock was an old
fashioned percolator coffee pop right next to it, and Chimney
Rock like a lone spire, but those are behind bushes.
But we start to hear this sound and what womp
womp womp womp, And my clients are like, what the
heck is that? And I se, well, that's it would
be a very large military helicopter probably coming from behind

(01:53:26):
thunder Mountain there. And if we clear this bush, and
we had a moonless night, like you couldn't see your
hand in front of your face, was that dark. And
I said, if we clear this bush, we should be
able to see it because we'll see its acquisition lights,
its strokes, and we're hearing it really loud, but we're
not seeing it yet. Then all of a sudden, out
in front of us, because what would be just the

(01:53:48):
left of that is the Secret Mountain Wilderness Range and
where Enchantment Resort is in the entrance to Boyton Canyon,
which kind of gives off a glow because they spotlights
lighting up red rocks for their guests to night. But
it's kind of behind some rock, so you just see
them glow.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
We got to hurry up, but we only got about
ten seconds here, okay, And all of.

Speaker 5 (01:54:09):
A sudden, coming over the edge of that hill is
a Chinook helicopter seven big rotors on both ends, comes
right over the out of the back of secret Canyon,
clearly coming right over the ridge, coming towards us.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
Melinda Leslie, thank you for coming on spaced Out Radio.
Hour three starts off with Swamp Dweller.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
Next you're listening to spaced Out Radio with your host
Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Melinda, thank you very much, my dear, I love you.

Speaker 5 (01:54:57):
Can I finish that really quick in the break just
the very end of that what the what was in
front of the Chanook?

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
You got three minutes?

Speaker 5 (01:55:04):
Okay, we'll be faster than that. Okay, So the radio
listeners don't get to hear this, you guys, but anyone
still online now gets to hear it. So coming towards
us Chinook helicopter going wompompomp and had big rotors. They're
the big long, you know, transport helicopters rotors unbuilt it

(01:55:30):
and also I don't have the goggles. Right then, I
have ten clients with me. They alled the night vision goggles.
It's black knight, moonless, and they're looking for the goggles
and I hear one person go, what is that big
thing in front of the chanook? And this was just
you guys. It was like five months ago. It's the
last structure craft sign or six months six months? And
they go, what is that thing in front of it?

(01:55:51):
And I hear someone else goes, oh, I thought I
was the only one who saw that. I was wondering
if anyone else saw that. And someone else said, oh,
I'm so glad you guys see it too, And I go,
what do you guys? I see it? And they said, well,
there's a big thing in front of the I go,
what do you man? I'm looking with my eyes. There's
nothing in front of it. I see the chinook, I
see the rotors, the strobe lights, the acquisition lights on
the end. And the lady sitting next to me practically

(01:56:14):
throws goggles out because again I didn't have goggles yet.
I wasn't using them. And she hands me goggles and
she says, well to look look at the goggles, and
I look, and in front of the Chinook was a
big disc, bigger than the Chinook, and it was completely silhouetted,
completely silent. The Chinook had the acquisition lights on the end,

(01:56:35):
and then those lights were kind of the strokes were
lighting up the rotors. And the disc was at least
as wide as the Schnook was long and bigger than that.
And I had two retired airline pilots on the tour
that night. These two guys, these older guys that were friends,
told us all about being pilots and having sign and

(01:56:58):
them and I are measuring, is the Chinook goes over
our head. It's about four inches long at arm's lengs.
If you hold up your arms straight and you go
four inches long. And those guys said, Linda, that Chinook
and that disc are only about thousand feet above us.
They're really low, going about thousand feet. And the Chinook,
I mean the disc, the flying classer in front of
it was completely black, silhouetted, completely silent, and bigger than

(01:57:23):
the Chinook. And both of them are about thousand feet
above us, and the Chinook was following it just like this.
Eventually the disc jumped out in front about fifty yards
just all of a sudden leaped out in front and
then starts going up and an arcing path going faster,
faster faster, till eventually went streaked right out like a bull,

(01:57:44):
leaving the chinook flying by itself. And we're making jokes like,
you guys, you're not saying to the military, you're not
going to be able to chase or follow that thing,
and that thing, you know, because the chinook is like
really slow and and fall in and the chinook continued
to fly out. Well, my client said, where would it
be going? I said home, It's going to Luke Air

(01:58:04):
Force Base right outside of Phoenix, And that's the closest
military base with any military aircraft permanently stationed at it.
There's one further away, but the closest one with helicopters
and fighter jets stationed at it is Luke, right outside
of Phoenix, which is two hours away from But it
was flying that direction and so the disc had the

(01:58:25):
disc had gained an altitude increasing speed till eventually what
she's you know, streaked out like a bullet. And so
that was the last structure craft sign we had. Yeah,
it was pretty dramatic, pretty pretty dark, and the last
one before that was a year before that, just about

(01:58:45):
a year or just under a year before that, and
we had a black triangle, which we've seen ten times,
but we had a black triangle to come from the
west and an incoming it came as an amber light
and as it got closer closed and then we could
make out that we had a big black triangle. And

(01:59:07):
then coming in the distance behind it was an F
sixteen fighter jet that sped up and pulled up right
behind it. So that disc was followed by F sixteen.
I'm not dis that triangle, but but the other disc
would have this shin up behind it. They did. That's
what I was just tell him. It was a great
big disc followed.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
Did you tell that story? I love that story. Yeah, yeah,
all right, my dear, I gotta let you go, Yes, dear,
thank you much, love to you. We'll talk soon, okay,
so Idy, and get.

Speaker 5 (01:59:36):
More into the Lucky Martin involvement.

Speaker 1 (01:59:40):
Well, we'll get to that next time because I'll have
you on before the end of the year.

Speaker 5 (01:59:45):
Lots more to cover on all that. And people had
run ins with the guards at the base. Yeah, lots
lots of stories, but that's all right, and everybody on
X I have two presentations that are an hour and
a half long EA totally three hours of data that
if you're interested in what I'm talking about in the evidence,

(02:00:05):
please watch those presentations. Team member Jeremiah and I did
presentations together an hour and a half lecture, hour and
a half workshop Part one, Part two at Contact My Desert,
and if you're on X, I have those posted there
just in the last couple of days, so you can
watch watch those and cover all the stuff that you missed.

Speaker 7 (02:00:24):
Love you, Melinda, Thank you, Dave, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
You're the best. Thank you, Bye me, Linda Leslie, everybody.
I love her. I just love her. If you ever
get a chance to meet her in person, make sure
you give her a hug. She gives the best hugs.
All right, let's bring in Robin Hi, Robin Hi, Sadie,
how are you good? Nice to see you, my dear,

(02:00:48):
Good to see you.

Speaker 4 (02:00:50):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
I appreciate that and we got about twenty five seconds,
So thank you tonight to Stargazer Times too, Kitty Caddy,
whack t Bone Times two and MAILWD forty. Appreciate your
love and support, everybody. Our story is open. I'm putting
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Speaker 11 (02:02:32):
Hello and welcome to spaced Out Radio Swamp. I'm swamp dweller.
In tonight, I'm going to take you on a mystic
Journey of the unkno sharing tales of monsters, legends and nightmares.

Speaker 7 (02:02:45):
Welcome to the spaced out radio swamp.

Speaker 6 (02:02:55):
So this story happened back in twenty sixteen. I was
eighteen and was planning on visiting my girlfriend. We lived
in different cities in the UK, so I decided to
get a train and visit her for the weekend. The
train I caught was slightly earlier than I had booked,
but some UK trains have the option for more flexible

(02:03:17):
times as long as it is at rush hour. It
was five am in winter, it was cold, dark and miserable,
and I had just stepped onto the platform to wait
for it to pull up to the station when a
roughly sixty year old.

Speaker 7 (02:03:32):
Man came and stood next to me.

Speaker 6 (02:03:35):
By next to me, I met he was literally less
than twenty centimeters away and practically leaning on me, despite
almost no one else being around, so it's not like
the area was crammed. He was balding, wore thick rimmed
glasses with incredibly strong prescriptions.

Speaker 7 (02:03:51):
By the looks of it. He was significantly taller than me.

Speaker 6 (02:03:55):
I say he was close to six', six but slim and,
gaunt with, coarse graying skin and had unusually wide mouth
and a scraggly beard that looked like it needed a good.

Speaker 7 (02:04:06):
Trim he was dressed in a black baggy hoodie.

Speaker 6 (02:04:09):
That was pulled over his, head and wore fatigued jeans
that looked as if they were close to falling apart
at any. MOMENT i stepped, away trying to politely put
some distance between. Us, unfortunately he didn't follow me any.
Further the train pulled up AND i stepped onto the.
CARRIAGE i found a seat for. REFERENCE i sat in

(02:04:33):
the left side of the, train next to the. WINDOW
i put my headphones in and tried to nap for
a duration of my three hour. Journey the train was mainly,
EMPTY a few tired workers slumped in the, corner sleeping
off the work from the night, before and a couple
of old women chatted quietly between. Themselves the journey was mainly,

(02:04:54):
painless AND i had mainly forgotten the old man and
couldn't see him either in my carriage or the ones,
that SO i paid the thought of him little. Attention
it was about an hour into the journey when the
train went to a short. Tunnel it couldn't have been
for more than twenty, seconds BUT i felt a strong
hand grabbed my right. LEG i jerked out of my

(02:05:15):
days half, asleep BUT i found that the train exited the,
darkness and the old man was sat directly next to.
Me still grasped me my leg hard enough that it
would later leave a light bruise along the. THIGH i
pulled my leg away quickly and asked him what he was.
Doing i'm not an intimidating, PERSON a pretty fat.

Speaker 7 (02:05:34):
Teenager that barely reaches five to. Eight it's never really
to be.

Speaker 6 (02:05:38):
Scary BUT i put on my most confident and authoritative
voice and repeated my, question though this time it was
loud and contained a.

Speaker 7 (02:05:45):
Few more choice words for the old.

Speaker 6 (02:05:47):
MAN i had barely managed to finish the question before
he grabbed my face with his hand and slammed my
head against the window so THAT i was pinned and.
Placed despite my, struggles easily held me in place and
leaned in until he was inches from my squished. Face
with a deep baritone voice that seemed to echo around
in my, brain he whispered directly into my ear something

(02:06:08):
similar to.

Speaker 7 (02:06:10):
You would be a very nice play.

Speaker 6 (02:06:12):
THING i apologized THAT i can't remember the exact. Words
the adrenaline that had me freaking out made it difficult
to concentrate on the things that he was, saying BUT
i vividly remember he knew my. Name he then licked
the exposed side of my face slowly into a bridge
above the, tracks blocked what little light was trickling into the.

(02:06:33):
Carriage as the light, DIMMED i felt the hand release my.
FACE i snapped to look where the man had, been
but he had already disappeared from. VIEW i rose shakily
from my seat and rushed to the toilet of vomit
from the. FEAR i stayed in there for over an
hour before an inspector knocked on the door to check.

Speaker 7 (02:06:53):
Me out and to check out my.

Speaker 6 (02:06:54):
TICKET i informed him what, happened and he had escorted
me to the police officers at the next. Station if
we swept the entire train for the, man it was
treated as an. Assault so the police viewed THE cctv
footage from the, train but they were unable to identify
the old. GUY i nearly broke down into a panic
when they said they couldn't find.

Speaker 7 (02:07:12):
Him but that wasn't even the worst.

Speaker 6 (02:07:14):
Part when the police later viewed THE cctv that covered
the ROUTE i took to the train.

Speaker 7 (02:07:20):
Station they stated that the same.

Speaker 6 (02:07:23):
Tall black coded man could be seen following me for
almost two, miles starting from just outside my.

Speaker 7 (02:07:28):
House to this, DAY i refused to return to that.

Speaker 6 (02:07:32):
CITY i moved away about two months later and had
made a promise.

Speaker 7 (02:07:36):
To myself THAT i would never ride and train.

Speaker 1 (02:07:38):
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Speaker 4 (02:07:58):
Do it's time For robin.

Speaker 1 (02:08:07):
Love soft where the tawtrees, Swam she Hears bigfoot whisper say.

Speaker 5 (02:08:16):
Of the.

Speaker 1 (02:08:16):
Forest the foot psychic talks To saskatch every. Day holy
on Space Own, Radio Scryptic Cuban. Days Robin haynes back
on Spaced Out, Radio, robin how are, you my beautiful?

Speaker 8 (02:08:33):
FRIEND i am, good so glad to be.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
Here as, always it is always great to have you.

Speaker 4 (02:08:39):
Here have you had?

Speaker 12 (02:08:40):
Yeah so what is the? SNOW i saw you On
facebook today and you're standing in the.

Speaker 1 (02:08:49):
Snow we got hit with a little mini blizzard, Today
like it lasted about two. Hours it dropped about just
about an inch of, snow and snow is coming. Down
what more do.

Speaker 8 (02:09:06):
You say makes Me Miss. Michigan, well you know, what it's.

Speaker 1 (02:09:12):
Tomorrow it's supposed to get to about nine degrees, celsius
WHICH i believe is around fifty maybe fifty one degrees
fahrenheit if, that and so it'll probably all. Melt, yeah
it's going to make things real slushy for a little.

(02:09:33):
Bit that's okay for. Sure it it's just The caribou
region's way of saying winter's.

Speaker 4 (02:09:41):
Coming we're almost.

Speaker 1 (02:09:42):
Here we can snow at any. Time so, yeah thank.

Speaker 8 (02:09:48):
You oh. Goodness, YEAH i don't know If.

Speaker 1 (02:09:52):
I'm a fan of it snowing this, early but you know,
what nature has its way of doing, things AND I
i do have to admit it was beautiful Out it really.

Speaker 8 (02:10:03):
WAS i was gonna say it was. Pretty, yeah it
was Very Oh.

Speaker 5 (02:10:10):
I'm okay with.

Speaker 4 (02:10:11):
It, Though i'm okay with.

Speaker 12 (02:10:13):
It it'll get everything moving.

Speaker 8 (02:10:16):
Around you.

Speaker 12 (02:10:17):
Know everybody needs to be aware that this time of,
year all the cryptodes are looking for.

Speaker 8 (02:10:24):
Food they're packing it away for the.

Speaker 12 (02:10:26):
Winter whether you live in the, south whether you live
in the, north they are active and they are. Out
the hunters are out right, now which means they are following,
hunters you, know because they if they can get to
that deer before the hunters get to, it they're going
to so and you, know keep in, mind you may

(02:10:46):
have a gun and think that you got it under,
control but if there's, one there's a lot more of
them out, there and it is not in your best
your best idea to take a shot at one because
it's a or seconds before the rest of them are.

Speaker 8 (02:11:02):
There so just you, know they're not aggressive about.

Speaker 12 (02:11:05):
It i've not found one hunter that has ever said
that they got aggressive about the.

Speaker 8 (02:11:10):
Deer they just kind of looked at and picked up
the deer and.

Speaker 12 (02:11:13):
Left so just kind of everybody be aware that they're
out there about right.

Speaker 1 (02:11:17):
Now and you know, what WHERE i live in The
British Columbia, wilderness it's more than just that you are
having to be very careful because with that first, snowfall
the bears are going to be foraging a lot harder,
Now they're going to be a lot more. AGGRESSIVE a
lot of the animals are going to be that the.

(02:11:39):
Way wolves are going to be that way because the
mountains are now. Covered the snow is on the. Mountains
it's not going to melt off the mountains, now you,
know in the high elevations WHERE i, am it will.
Melt but like getting around Where flight twenty one is
in the forest that, area we may be able to
get up there once or twice. MORE i doubt, it

(02:12:04):
BUT i got to go get my trail. CAMERAS i
can't leave them up there all, winter SO i have
no choice but to go back at least.

Speaker 4 (02:12:11):
Once.

Speaker 12 (02:12:12):
Yeah, well we've got another event that's coming. Up just
AN fyi for. Everybody On, Thursday october, thirtieth there is
going to be a, major major frequency. Shift, Okay so
it doesn't mean everybody on this planet is going to
pick up on. It it's still going to happen whether

(02:12:33):
you pick up on it or.

Speaker 8 (02:12:34):
Not with that, shift everybody's going to be.

Speaker 12 (02:12:37):
Fine but with that, shift it's raising our. Frequency, okay
we're changing from carbon to crystalline. Base it's going to
help move us out of the third dimension and into
the higher. Dimensions so it is going to, happen whether
your body is intuitive enough to pick it.

Speaker 8 (02:12:54):
Up we will.

Speaker 12 (02:12:55):
See it's supposed to be one of the stronger shifts
that we've had so, far but just be aware of.
It along with that may come mood, swings a hard time.
Sleeping for people with arthritis and. Fibromyalgia it may house
a little bit more discomfort than, normal just like it
would with the weather. Change but it is going to

(02:13:16):
be one.

Speaker 8 (02:13:16):
Of the bigger shifts that we.

Speaker 12 (02:13:18):
Have, Okay so On, thursday if you feel a little
bit more moody than, normal you, know whether it's, happiness
whether it's, sadness be kind to, yourself be kind to
the people around.

Speaker 8 (02:13:30):
You it will. Pass.

Speaker 12 (02:13:32):
Okay it's a good. Thing it's a very good. Thing
it's very much. Needed but also be aware that the
animals are going to pick it up even if you.

Speaker 8 (02:13:40):
Don't, Okay so some of them.

Speaker 12 (02:13:43):
May act a little, wonky especially your non domesticated, animals
your wildlife out in the. Woods it's going to set
them off because they go primarily on.

Speaker 8 (02:13:53):
Frequency our domestic.

Speaker 12 (02:13:55):
Animals do as, well but they're a little bit more
prone to be a little bit more laid.

Speaker 8 (02:14:00):
Back but just like.

Speaker 12 (02:14:01):
You're talking about with the, bears this will set them
off big.

Speaker 8 (02:14:04):
Time it will set off a lot of.

Speaker 12 (02:14:06):
Animals all animals are a high frequency, being so when
there's even the slightest frequency, change it can set them.
Off so everything's going to be, fine but everybody just
needs to know if things feel a little bit, off
you can't, sleep you're more, agitated you may crave more,
water more, protein or a certain. Food just ride it,

(02:14:27):
out go with the. Flow it's going to be, fine
but it is a very necessary. Thing but be aware
that it is supposed to happen on the Thirtieth, well.

Speaker 1 (02:14:37):
Thank you for sharing. That, YEAH i appreciate. That how
the how do the cryptids, act say around an energy
shift or an eclipse or something along that.

Speaker 12 (02:14:50):
Way, HONESTLY i think they handle it better than we
do with our. People i've noticed a little bit more.
Panic these cryptids are so much higher frequency than we.
Are they're used to the. CHANGES i think they'll get
a little bit. NOW i don't think agitated is a good.

(02:15:10):
WORD i think maybe anxious because they can feel it building,
up because they are so highly sensitive to every, single
little tiny frequency. CHANGE i think they're going to be.
FINE i think they'll handle it better than we. DO
i think it'll make them more. Comfortable they're going to
wonder what's going on at, first although they were the

(02:15:30):
ones that had first told me about.

Speaker 8 (02:15:31):
IT i got it confirmed by.

Speaker 12 (02:15:33):
Other, sources but you, know they pretty much it's they
know what's going.

Speaker 8 (02:15:39):
On we need to go to them for the information at.

Speaker 12 (02:15:42):
It but it has been made very public that this
is going to, happen so it's kind of just you,
know an fyi for. Everybody the cryptids will handle it.
WELL i do think that that's a day that just
let them handle, it let them do their, thing let
us do our, thing write it.

Speaker 8 (02:15:57):
Out it's going to be, fine and it is all
for the.

Speaker 12 (02:16:01):
Better they will be more comfortable afterwards because they are
such a high frequency and this is going to help
move our planet into that higher frequency and.

Speaker 1 (02:16:10):
Energy very, cool very. Cool you, KNOW i didn't get
a chance to get out to flight twenty one this past,
week you, know due to just conflict and scheduling and
everything like. That, yeah but it is something THAT i
know THAT i do have to do probably this coming

(02:16:31):
weekend in.

Speaker 4 (02:16:32):
Order to get. There.

Speaker 1 (02:16:34):
Yeah my question to you is, This i've now had
over a week to study, this AND i feel THAT
i let them, Down LIKE i feel guilty that there
was like a five week break in, between AND i

(02:16:59):
feel THAT i have lost a lot of that trust
on that end due to the fact that we just
could not get out there for. Reasons, well let me.

Speaker 12 (02:17:13):
Tell, you they don't feel that. Way, okay that is
one of our human type. Things they Don't And i'll
tell you. Why Number, one you've already got a connection
with them through the. Collective, okay your collective consciousness has
been linked to them for quite a, while so they
monitor everything that you're going, through everything that's going, on

(02:17:36):
so they're very well informed on your intentions and on
your thought. Processes but, also and people don't really realize,
this they have a life. Too they will send some
of the ones that they. Use you, know you can
call them a, warrior you can call them whatever you
want to call. Them but there are certain ones in

(02:17:57):
The klan that may go off and be sent away
for a few. Months i've had that done before to
some of my, guys where you, know they went in
for different training or, whatever and then they came, back
which sounds, crazy but they are a human hybrid and
they do have things to. Do they have meetings where
they'll meet up with other, clans so they have to
take time, too and sometimes they have to disappear for

(02:18:17):
a little while and then they come. Back, no they're not.
Migrating they have business to attend, to just like we.
Do so they are a little bit better about understanding
that THAN i think we sometimes give them credit for they.
Do if you are like out on a daily, basis
or you, know every other day where it's a, pattern
then they start to get a little bit more worried

(02:18:39):
about are you?

Speaker 8 (02:18:40):
Okay but, again they are so. Intuitive they will run
a check.

Speaker 12 (02:18:46):
On, you AND i promise you they've been keeping an
eye on you sent you've been back. Home SO i
think you're going to find with them that it's going
to be. FINE i think you feel bad because you,
know you wanted to be out more than you were
and then things happened and things got. Crazy BUT i
assure you they are very comfortable with. It you can
talk to them in your mind from. Home you do

(02:19:08):
not physically have to be. There i've worked with a
group for ten years now AND i only get out
there about once or twice a, year and that's because
they're in another. STATE i have another one THAT i
work with that group and yet another, state and it's
once a YEAR i can get out, there BUT i
mind speak continually to, them so WHEN i do go,

(02:19:28):
out it's like no time has, passed and they don't
really have a good comprehension for. Time, anyway we created,
time they.

Speaker 8 (02:19:37):
Didn't SO i, think you.

Speaker 12 (02:19:39):
Know mine speak to, them even if you don't feel
like you're getting it. Back they are getting what you are,
sending and that works really well to kind of bridge that,
gap and they're going to read your. Intentions SO i
think it's going to be much better than what you
think it. Is you, KNOW i think you feel bad
because you haven't been able to get there as much

(02:20:00):
as you would. Like BUT i assure you any Contact
i've had with, them and they do get hold of
me now and, then and.

Speaker 8 (02:20:07):
Then of COURSE i talked to.

Speaker 12 (02:20:08):
Them when you guys are getting ready to go out,
there they're. Fine they're a little worried about, you, yes
but they are. Fine so just mind speak with, them
talk to them in your. Head you're already connected to
them through the.

Speaker 1 (02:20:20):
Consciousness, WELL i can understand, that AND i can appreciate.
That it's just it's been it's been, tough you, know
to watch a buddy go through those health issues and
then not being able to get out there because it
is a unique. Place and one of the things and
the reason WHY i brought this up IS i don't,

(02:20:41):
think you, Know i'm not looking for a lot of
sympathy for this or any sympathy at all over what
happened With tim getting sick and a recurring injury from
years ago coming Back Tim. James that is for people who,
remember AND i think for me, though on that, level

(02:21:03):
it's kind of a letdown because on a number of
let on a number of areas because of the the
way the people, were the listeners were on the edge
of their seats when we were going out. THERE i,
mean you kind of carry the interest in the people
on your back that you're doing something that that that.

Speaker 8 (02:21:28):
They're invested in.

Speaker 12 (02:21:29):
It they're invested in, it AND i can understand. THAT i,
can and you, KNOW i think it'll work through it
and you'll get that back.

Speaker 8 (02:21:40):
Again it is, unfortunate it.

Speaker 12 (02:21:43):
IS i, MEAN i would take it hard IF i
were you, too and it can make it very difficult
and definitely is a sad moment you, know not only
Because tim is, sick but also because it slows things.

Speaker 8 (02:21:56):
Down but you'll get that.

Speaker 12 (02:21:58):
BACK i have a firm belief in, that because they're
not going to want you to be.

Speaker 8 (02:22:02):
Gone we're, good, absolutely you.

Speaker 1 (02:22:06):
Know and it does give you time to, retool Like
i'm going to have to retool and build a team
for next year and, hopeful Hopefully tim will be back
with that if he's feeling if he's feeling better at that, point,
right you. Know BUT i mean the people, like, yes
we were out there doing, it and we were having
fun and, everything but the main thing that we were

(02:22:28):
the way we were trying to film it that people
can go look on our YouTube, Channel secrets of The,
forest you, know the way we were trying to film
it was to try and keep it as untouched and
as amateur looking as. Possible, Yeah so that, way there
was no real big. Edits there was no real you,

(02:22:49):
know controversy about adding sound or adding noise or music
in the, background because the one THING i hate about
those paranormal televisi shows is all of a, sudden they
turn the music up and they're, like did you hear?
That did you hear?

Speaker 11 (02:23:06):
That?

Speaker 1 (02:23:06):
No ALL i heard was the background music being. Played
that's ALL i. Heard, yeah you, know we wanted to
keep it as natural as.

Speaker 12 (02:23:14):
Possible, WELL i think one of the good things about that,
too THAT i liked about it was.

Speaker 8 (02:23:22):
You guys were keeping it. Real, okay you were doing these.

Speaker 12 (02:23:25):
Things people were, watching and it gave, PEOPLE i personally
think confidence where if they wanted to go out and
try to get their own, interaction it was on a
level where they. Could you, know it wasn't like A
hollywood stunt or. Anything it was. Real you guys were doing,
it And i've said this many times. Before you were
doing it the correct way that is not only safe for,

(02:23:48):
you but safe for the. Cryptids but it was done
in a context that other people could learn from it
and do the same, thing you, Know AND i think
that's great because people need to know that if they're
going to do, this this is the safest way for
you and the cryptids to go about. It, SO i,
MEAN i think that it was fantastic AND i think

(02:24:09):
it will continue to. Be it's just got to you,
know you've got to get some things worked out to get.

Speaker 1 (02:24:13):
There Robin haynes and The Cryptid, report THE q and
a continue right after this on Spaced Out. Radio we
love it When robin is on with us because she
makes it so much. Fun final half hour of the
show coming up right after.

Speaker 3 (02:24:29):
This this is Spaced Out radio and your host's name.

Speaker 4 (02:24:35):
Stuff all, right we're.

Speaker 12 (02:24:54):
Clear, yeah this will give you time to regroup and
revamp how you want to do. IT i, mean, actually
it's a better time for it now than if it
was right in the middle of spring and.

Speaker 8 (02:25:05):
Summer, yes that would have been.

Speaker 12 (02:25:08):
Worse you, Know it's LIKE i don't And i'm not
knocking any of these, shows SO i don't wan anybody
to take it that, way but LIKE i don't watch
any of the shows that they've got ON, tv you,
know On Destination truth or, whatever expedition big.

Speaker 8 (02:25:24):
BUTT i applaud the people that do.

Speaker 12 (02:25:26):
It i'm not knocking them or just creudding in it at.

Speaker 8 (02:25:29):
All it's just not my. Thing you, know it's.

Speaker 12 (02:25:35):
Hype they run, around they don't they're invasive to the,
cryptids and you, know you don't know what's real and
you don't know what's not.

Speaker 8 (02:25:45):
Real that's WHAT i loved about.

Speaker 12 (02:25:46):
Yours was because it was, real it was, heartfelt it
was respectful to all, parties and The cryptids were responding
well to you because it was so that you, know
that's always a nice.

Speaker 8 (02:25:59):
Thing.

Speaker 12 (02:26:00):
Said i'm not knocking anybody else's. SHOW i don't know those.
People i've never watched more than a couple of minutes
of the shows BECAUSE i just don't care for that
kind of. Thing but you, know like what you guys
were doing was. Good it was, great AND i think
you'll get that back. Again but if it was gonna
have to have a time to, REGROUP i think this

(02:26:20):
is the best time for.

Speaker 5 (02:26:21):
It.

Speaker 1 (02:26:22):
Yeah, yeah well we'll get it figured. Out that's, uh
that's not going to be an, issue but we will
get it figured.

Speaker 4 (02:26:31):
Out.

Speaker 12 (02:26:33):
Yeah you, know and there's there's so many hunters out right,
now you, KNOW i, mean the cryptids are at. Risk
they're nervous because you, know there's men with guns and
bow and arrows and everything else running.

Speaker 8 (02:26:46):
Around and you, know it's okay.

Speaker 12 (02:26:50):
Just if you're gonna if you're gonna, hunt AND i
my kids all. Hunted i'm not a. Hunter my kids all.
Hunted you, know my ex husband hunted.

Speaker 8 (02:26:59):
That it's. Fine but if.

Speaker 12 (02:27:01):
You're going to take, it eat, it because you are
taking food from these. Cryptids so make sure you're going
to eat, it you, know you have that, respect and
don't take more than what you need because there's other
things that need to eat off of them.

Speaker 1 (02:27:14):
Too.

Speaker 4 (02:27:14):
Greed greed read very very.

Speaker 12 (02:27:19):
Much, YEAH i was very. Lucky my kids were very.
Much when they taught their children to, hunt it was.
You you're not hunting just for a. Trophy if you're
not going to eat absolutely, everything you don't hunt it,
all or you donate the meat, somewhere but you make

(02:27:40):
sure it's used and you don't take more than what you.

Speaker 8 (02:27:43):
Need you, know we're not out there to strip the.

Speaker 4 (02:27:44):
Land absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 12 (02:27:49):
Agree, well people that don't really understand or even know
about the cryptids don't realize that is their food. Source
we're going to go drive To walmart or whatever grocery
store that there is and get what we. Need and
there's nothing wrong with being a. Hunter there's nothing wrong

(02:28:10):
with living off the. LAND i, mean our forefathers did.
It you, know there's nothing wrong with that as long
as you're eating what you're.

Speaker 1 (02:28:18):
Taking, Agreed.

Speaker 8 (02:28:22):
But you know the cryptids have to have it. Too SO.

Speaker 12 (02:28:27):
I have yet to find, Really i've not talked to
any hunters that have ever had a problem with. Them
i've talked to some that have said that they, followed you,
know the blood trail to the deer and there was
a sasquatch picking it up and walking off with, it
and that with you, know other animals as. WELL i
have heard of, that But i've not heard of anybody getting. Hurt,

(02:28:49):
now there was one GENTLEMAN i talked to that was
just a very sweet kind, man and he did have
a sasquatch yelled at him and absolutely terrified, him but
it yelled at, him it didn't harm, him didn't.

Speaker 8 (02:29:00):
Do anything to.

Speaker 12 (02:29:00):
Them But i've not heard of anybody getting hurt in
any of you, know physically, hurting any of those altercations at.

Speaker 1 (02:29:08):
All we have about a minute to go, here.

Speaker 8 (02:29:14):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (02:29:20):
But, YEAH i Think thursday everything will probably be a
bit off and a lot of people aren't even going
to notice, it to be honest with, you depends on
how intuitive they, are what frequency they're already, at as
to whether or not they're going to pick up on.
It it shouldn't last real. Long it'll you, know it'll
go through the, day BUT i think the high part
of it isn't going to last overly, long SO i

(02:29:42):
think everybody will be, fine but you, know it's always
nice to be aware that things could be a little.
Wonky and it seems to be starting to build the
momentum up To, thursday because everybody's just kind of like
all over the map right.

Speaker 8 (02:29:56):
Now for.

Speaker 1 (02:29:58):
Sure sure we got about nineteen. Seconds thank you to
all of our super, chatters especially T bone tonight for
giving away a pair of memberships along with Mill Stargazer
times two And Kitty Caddy. Whack we appreciate. You here we, go.
Everybody we Have Robin hayes here on the final half

(02:30:42):
hour of Spaced Out Radio. Tonight my name Is Dave.
Scott thank you for tuning us in as we try
to jive with the nighttime racket of the cryptids and
monsters that are wandering through our yards for us each
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(02:31:29):
CRYPTID q and a continuing on Here. Robin one of
the topics that we've touched on but we haven't really
gone deep, into is the fact that when you get an,
area whether It's flight twenty one Or Skinwalker ranch or
all of these little nooks and crannies that have a
plethora of high strangeness going, on a lot of people

(02:31:53):
will go there and they will, SAY i didn't feel,
ANYTHING i didn't see, anything there's nothing going on. There
but the one thing That i've learned From flight twenty
one over, it because it's coming up a year from
the time it started haunting me last, year is that
the phenomena has a list of people who are allowed

(02:32:15):
there and who are. Not what is this about this
imaginary phenomena list that the phenomena needs to approve who
can and cannot go out there to? Investigate well they.

Speaker 12 (02:32:33):
DO i mean you're talking about you're going into their,
home doesn't matter if it's a, cryptid a, spirit a, skinwalker.

Speaker 8 (02:32:40):
Whatever you are now going into their.

Speaker 12 (02:32:42):
Turf so, yeah they're going to want to approve who's,
there just like when you're sitting at, home you're going
to want to prove who you let come through your front.

Speaker 8 (02:32:48):
Door now what determines?

Speaker 12 (02:32:51):
THAT i sound like a broken, record, Guys but it's
all the. Truth you're frequency and your. Energy if you
don't have a high enough, frequency they do not want you.
Around low frequency means. Trouble people that are low frequency
generally want to hurt something or hurt, them.

Speaker 8 (02:33:10):
Or they're low enough where it makes them.

Speaker 12 (02:33:14):
Uncomfortable people with a higher frequency when they are around
a lower frequency. Person your body reads frequency and energy
before your brain. Will your body is made up of,
frequency energy and your. Consciousness and so if you have
a low frequency person and a high frequency, person it

(02:33:34):
is very, uncomfortable very uncomfortable for both parties because they
do not. Match they cannot be in the same. Spot
that is why people we've met through our lifetime are
mean to us and we don't even know.

Speaker 8 (02:33:48):
Why we don't know, them never done anything to. Them
that is.

Speaker 12 (02:33:52):
Why because you are probably a higher frequency person and
they are a lower frequency or vice. Versa so when
you go out to these. Areas if you do not
have a high enough, frequency you are not going to be.
Welcomed it's a guaranteed. Thing, okay this is WHEN i
teach my classes on the. Frequency my people when they're,

(02:34:13):
DONE i mean they're getting, interaction they're getting, photos they're
getting mind. Speak you have to be in the higher
frequency to get that. Interaction and so if you are
out there and you are not a high enough frequency,
person if they don't feel that your intent is, right
they don't want you in their. Lives they don't want
you on their, property they don't want you by their.

Speaker 8 (02:34:34):
Family you, know it's just like.

Speaker 12 (02:34:37):
If you're sitting at home and there's somebody that just
robbed a store near, you you don't want them in your.
House you don't know what kind of a person that.
Is are they going to rob, You are they, gonna you,
know treat you? Badly are they? Dangerous not any? Different
and so that is how everybody is rated to be very.

(02:34:58):
Honest they read your, frequency they know what it is
before you, do and they know your, intent and if
it does not match what that clan is all, about
you're done THEN i want you there and they will
go completely. Quiet so you think that there's nothing. There
but take a person that's a higher frequency that they

(02:35:19):
think you know intuitively their intent is, good and you
do start to see more, action or at the very,
least you will have a calm feeling when you're in that,
area which is a way of them accepting you and
giving you the opportunity to prove yourself respectfully to, them
and then they will have interaction with. You but if

(02:35:39):
your low frequency and you go out, there you're either
going to get the wall of, fere you're going to
feel uncomfortable, there or it is just going to feel
like there is nothing that's ever been, there and they
do that specifically to make you not want to be.

Speaker 1 (02:35:52):
THERE i find that the phenomena is something that you
have to pay attention. To it's uncomfortable and in seeing
people be up, There and it happened a couple of
times when we were up there this year with my

(02:36:12):
father bringing him up BECAUSE i could tell they they
were okay with him, there but they didn't want him
to get hurt because he's. Elderly, okay oh. Yeah another
friend that we brought up, there you could tell that
the phenomena did not want him. There so the question,

(02:36:33):
is you, know how does the phenomena pick and choose
who they like who they. Don't is it a selfish?
Thing is it a personal? Thing are they picking up
on the frequency and energy of the person and then, saying,
nah we're not coming out to play with this guy.

Speaker 12 (02:36:48):
Around it's one under your frequency and. Energy, now if
you go out in an, Area let's say you went
to a certain area and some cryptis were there and
they were not the, Nicest, okay they're going to make
you feel uncomfortable because they don't want you there because
your frequency is TOO i, mean this is always going

(02:37:09):
to be, higher but they're not gonna want anybody that
cheerful that with the frequency at your level there because
they don't want to be bothered by.

Speaker 8 (02:37:16):
Us our people kill what we don't.

Speaker 12 (02:37:18):
Understand we have done terrible things to these, cryptids and
so they are not going to want that person there
for whatever, reason because their frequency isn't high, enough their
intent isn't pure, enough and they don't feel, safe and
they aren't going to want them. There it could be
something that they did in their past that they consider.
Inexcusable most of the, time they don't expect people to

(02:37:41):
be perfect as long as you have never in your,
past you, know harmed people. Wilfully you know you're not torturing,
animals you're not trying to kill, Somebody you're not beating your,
partner you, know hurting a. Child those kind of things
that energy and frequency and the karma that that, brings
they will not.

Speaker 8 (02:38:00):
Accept they just are not going to risk.

Speaker 12 (02:38:05):
It but you, know if you are they consider peer of,
heart which means you're a good hearted. Person doesn't mean
you've never done anything. Wrong we're not made to be.
Perfect we've all done things, wrong but it's not a
life threatening. Thing so as long as they think you're
peer of, heart which means you, know you have a
good heart about, you you want good for. People you

(02:38:25):
know you don't want to harm. Anything and they pick
up that you're just there to observe and, Enjoy you're
going to be. Fine your frequency will be high enough
where it's not uncomfortable to, them and they're not going
to view.

Speaker 8 (02:38:39):
You as a. Threat it's just like when you're around.

Speaker 12 (02:38:42):
Dogs some dogs are perfectly fine with, everybody and then
one certain person will come by and they're. Growling that
person is a lower frequency animals are very. Intuitive they
are a high frequency, being and they can pick up
on the low and the, high and they're going to
growl at the low, one and then they'll be accepting of.
Others it goes the same. Way They they.

Speaker 8 (02:39:08):
Literally are the best judge of character you'll ever.

Speaker 1 (02:39:10):
HAVE i can see, THAT i can see. That we
got a couple of audience questions. Here let's get right to,
them all, Right joe Saying robin while, LISTENING i just
got a set of eyes looking at me from the.
Woods are the big feet watching?

Speaker 12 (02:39:27):
Me let me, see you've got those three of them
out there that go there all the time.

Speaker 8 (02:39:36):
He's.

Speaker 12 (02:39:37):
GOT i, mean there's a bunch of them that go
through his, place but there's certain three that have watched
him for.

Speaker 8 (02:39:43):
Years they just adore.

Speaker 12 (02:39:45):
Him and even when you get he thinks that they're not,
around those three will still wander in and out like
they keep a close eye on.

Speaker 8 (02:39:53):
Them they may not be there seven days a, week twenty.

Speaker 12 (02:39:56):
Four hours a, day but those three specifically will keep
an eye on and those are the ones that are
out there. Now the rest of the klan will wander,
through but they aren't through as often as these.

Speaker 1 (02:40:05):
Three all, right let's move. On great question From sherry.
Here how do you tell what kind of frequency you have.

Speaker 12 (02:40:19):
For a regular? Individual it's kind of. Hard if you're you,
know if you have a kind, heart if you're well,
intended if you're you're trying to be helpful to, people
and you care about, people then please know your frequency
is at a good. Level but we are in the
middle of this shift where it's. Raising, Okay so people

(02:40:39):
that know how to read energy, signatures like myself and
there's colinless.

Speaker 8 (02:40:43):
Others i'm not the only one you, Are they are
able to tell, you.

Speaker 12 (02:40:47):
You, know maybe not the exact number on your, frequency
but they will be able to tell you whether or
not you are out of that third third dimension of
frequency and you've gone into the higher. Ones and so
so the best way you can tell is if you
Are do you laugh a? Lot are you relatively? Happy
everybody gets depressed at, times that's. Normal but are you

(02:41:10):
generally a happy? Person are you a kind? Person you
care about you?

Speaker 8 (02:41:13):
Know other?

Speaker 12 (02:41:14):
People are you good to? Animals are you good to?
Children you? Know or if you don't like being around
animals and, children are you at least kind to?

Speaker 8 (02:41:22):
Them when you are around.

Speaker 12 (02:41:23):
Them if you put forth an effort in your life
to be a decent, person that doesn't mean you're perfect
all the, time doesn't mean you never have a bad.
Day but a decent, person then you do have that better.
Frequency if you're a person that is not thinking about
harming anybody or negative, thoughts or you're not that person
that gets On facebook and just attacks everybody just so

(02:41:46):
that you can hear yourself, speak then your frequency is.
Up if you want to raise your, frequency do something you, enjoy,
laugh find joy in, things watch a funny, movie have
a bowl of ice, Cream pet your pet that bring you.

Speaker 8 (02:42:00):
Joy raise your. Frequency so if.

Speaker 12 (02:42:03):
You have a kind, heart well none of us are,
perfect you are going to actually have at least your baseline,
frequency which will be. Good then once you start with
the energy work and other, things your frequency goes even.
Higher but your baseline if you you, know are LIKE i,
said a kind hearted, person you are not looking to

(02:42:23):
harm other. People you, know you put your best foot.
Forward we all have our bad. Days that's, fine that's
not going to hurt you at all or with, them
but you, know, laugh enjoy your, life enjoy those few
moments that we get our fun and do things that you,
like and your frequency is going to be, up so

(02:42:44):
you're going to be.

Speaker 1 (02:42:45):
Fine what type of frequency resonates with? Cryptids and is
that frequency different from each?

Speaker 12 (02:42:56):
Cryptid everybody has their own energy, signatures so everybody's frequency
will be.

Speaker 8 (02:43:02):
Different there are no two the.

Speaker 12 (02:43:04):
Same WHEN i teach mind speak, classes one of the
THINGS i insist on teaching is learning to read energy
signatures because everybody's is. Different there are no two signatures
that the. Same if you're mind, speaking which is what
most of the people THAT i work, with their goal.
Is you could be talking to something that says It's
winnie The pooh and talking to it for a, month

(02:43:26):
and then all of a, sudden something comes in and, says.

Speaker 8 (02:43:28):
Oh, yeah it's. Me I'm winnie The pooh and it's
The devil.

Speaker 12 (02:43:30):
Incarnate it's so vital that you learn to read energy
signatures and you take that with you when you go
out into the. Woods when you go out into an
area and you can feel the energy that comes out of,
it you're going to know which one it. Is you're
going to know whether that's a good one or a bad.
One it's going to tell you that whole. Story the
other thing That i've noticed is when your frequency gets

(02:43:52):
high enough and you learn to read the signatures, eventually
not at, first but, eventually when you pick up an
energy signature and it hits your collective, consciousness nine out
of ten times they will put an image of themselves
in your. Mind so you're going to see in your
mind what you're talking, to even if it's cloaked and
you can't physically see. It because in that higher, frequency

(02:44:16):
you start looking your. Eyes you look through your eyes
in a paranormal, spectrum which is different than looking in
a third third dimensional. Spectrum we don't see we miss
a lot when our frequency is low enough that we're
looking through THREE. D. I's when your frequency is higher
and you're looking in a higher, frequency you start to
see things.

Speaker 8 (02:44:35):
Dart across the.

Speaker 12 (02:44:36):
Room you, know whether it be a little person that's
in your, house a, spirit a, cryptid, whatever same thing
out in the. Woods you're going to see things moving
around that you didn't see, before even if it's just
in shadow. Form but it's because your frequency is now
high enough to see things through that paranormal.

Speaker 8 (02:44:52):
Spectrum it literally changes your. Life it's a game.

Speaker 1 (02:44:57):
Changer do you think? Then you, know And i've had
a lot of people approach me about, this you, know
especially as we get closer To halloween. NIGHT a lot
of people at this time of the, year as you,
know they they tend to get a little bit of
a yearning to freak themselves. Out oh, yeah there are

(02:45:20):
a lot of people out there too who are Who
i've talked. To they're, like, MAN i would love to
go out and chase down a. BIGFOOT i would love
to be able to go see a dog man or
something along this. Lines you, know what about those people
who who don't really have an understanding of. It does
their frequency get picked up by sasquatch or the dog

(02:45:44):
man or the other.

Speaker 12 (02:45:45):
Crib, Absolutely and it's lower because in the middle of, that.

Speaker 8 (02:45:51):
It's ALL, I i what they, want what they want to.
Do it's ego.

Speaker 12 (02:45:55):
Driven when you get into THAT i, factor it's all.
Ego ego does not work with. Cryptids it's like putting
oil and flames. Together it does not work with. Cryptids
when you are DOING i, WANT I, WANT i, WANT i,
want you are now lowering your frequency because while you

(02:46:16):
can want, things that's perfectly, normal that's perfectly. Fine but
when you just make your decisions on what you're going to,
do you think about the other party. Involved now you're
talking about something that is not in our. Culture they
have their own. Culture so now you have people running
around And i've heard people tell me for, Years, oh

(02:46:38):
if the sasquatch think it's great when the people are in. Costumes,
no they, don't Anyone i've ever talked. To i'm not
saying that there's none out there that don't enjoy, it
but none of the Ones.

Speaker 8 (02:46:46):
I've ever talked to like. It it scares the crap
out of them because they don't know what's going. On
they don't understand.

Speaker 12 (02:46:52):
IT i had somebody come to my house and put
a stuff sasquatch on their shoulder and was going to
run around in the.

Speaker 8 (02:46:59):
Woods AND i.

Speaker 12 (02:46:59):
Can't tell you how FAST i kicked them off my.
Property you don't play games with. Cryptids, okay, yes they
have a funny sense of. Humor they don't understand that.
Humor you are now scaring them because your, frequency your
energy is your energy, signature just like a. Thumbprint so
if they, know even if they know who you, are

(02:47:20):
they're going to pick out at. You but they're going
to see you in another physical. Form they will figure
out it you and they will think that you are
trying to trick. Them it is inbred in them that
everything that we do with our type of humans is
a trap or we're trying to trick. Them getting their
trust is not, easy but it's a must in order
to work with. Them that's the bridge your energy and

(02:47:45):
your frequency and building that respect and. Trust so you
go out there and you're looking like something else and
you're chasing them. Around never goes. Well doesn't mean they're
going to hurt, you but it doesn't go.

Speaker 1 (02:47:55):
Well three minutes to go here before we have to
say good night to, you and going Into, halloween people
telling creepy stories going Into, halloween people playing with things
like weija boards and all sorts of interesting you, know
tarot cards or whatever it may. Be your thoughts overall

(02:48:19):
on people who use the month Of halloween to maybe
test their limits a little bit on the high, Strangeness.

Speaker 12 (02:48:28):
Well i've worked with a lot of people that got hurt.

Speaker 8 (02:48:32):
Doing things like. That, okay A ouiji board is just a.

Speaker 12 (02:48:35):
Board it's the intent that you use when you use
That ouiji board that can people can get. Hurt i've
talked to so many people that have called things in
and that they never intended even though they were trying
to do something. Good you, know there's consequences to everybody's
actions as far As halloween, goes take your kids trigger,
treating go to A halloween.

Speaker 8 (02:48:55):
PARTY i went to one last.

Speaker 12 (02:48:57):
Weekend enjoy, yourself but don't go to the dark side of. It,
okay enjoy it for what it, is a time that
you can celebrate it with your.

Speaker 8 (02:49:06):
Kids. Whatever you.

Speaker 12 (02:49:08):
KNOW i know a lot of people that don't agree With,
halloween a lot of people that. Do you can enjoy,
it but don't turn it into such a spook field
that you're scaring other things or getting these wigi. Boards
remember a wigi board is only a, board but the
intent that you use when you use it can open
up things that you don't know how to. Control and

(02:49:29):
for people that think they can control, them that is ego, driven.

Speaker 8 (02:49:33):
That is low.

Speaker 12 (02:49:34):
Frequency that is. Bad ego does not work in any of. This,
okay you just can't have the. Ego it's okay to
be confident in what you can. Do that's, wonderful but
when that ego kicks in and it becomes THE. Iii
when you go on a wigi, board it is AN
i thing because you personally want to go in and

(02:49:55):
contact the dead to see if you can do.

Speaker 8 (02:49:57):
It that's ego.

Speaker 12 (02:49:58):
Driven when you unleash. That whatever you pull, out you
don't know that you can control. It you can't control.
It there are things in this world that we have
no control. Over so we need to be able to
control the things we can and respect what we.

Speaker 8 (02:50:13):
Can't we don't ever want to put anybody else get, risk.

Speaker 12 (02:50:18):
You, Know so enjoy the, holiday take the kids, out
let them trick or. Treat please be careful when you're
trick or treating with the kids because our world is
not the safest right. Now enjoy, it you. Know LIKE i,
SAID i went to A halloween party Last. Saturday it
was beautiful at a wonderful, time, family, friends, Kids it was.
Great we didn't do we'd. Boards we don't do things

(02:50:39):
that can call in bad spirits or things that can
linger on after and damage. People you, know you can
have a good time without. That the cryptids are more
than willing to work with. People they are more than,
willing most of, them not. All some of them have
been burnt by us so bad they want to get
out and they don't want to snare. Them but the
ones that are willing to work with us will if
you come with a your heart and a higher. Frequency

(02:51:02):
for people that don't know how to do, that find
somebody that can teach you. How if you want to
get hold of, me you, Can but if, not there's
other people that can do it as. Well and that's
how you bridge that. Gap everybody asked, me you know
you've had contact with them in your whole. Life, well
How i'm higher frequency AND i put in the work
to get. There i'm not, perfect trust, ME i have

(02:51:24):
a ton of. FAULTS i am not any better than anybody.

Speaker 8 (02:51:27):
Else but.

Speaker 12 (02:51:31):
Try to be kind to each. Other that's the beginning of. It,
okay that will get your frequency going. Up the, earthwork
do the, grounding learn how to tap into your. Frequency
they respond to. That if your frequency is, negative you're
getting negative back from. Them And i'm talking about the good.
Ones i'm not talking about the ones that get cranky

(02:51:51):
because they just don't like.

Speaker 8 (02:51:52):
Us i'm talking about the good. Ones.

Speaker 1 (02:51:54):
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